Sunday, 2011-12-18

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andygraybealis xdandroid a rooted android?  (i'm new to cellphone and the terminology, so if this quesiton is totally off base, go easy, i left my nomex suit at the laundrymat)10:48
rpierce99yes10:48
andygraybealthanks rpierce99 :)10:52
andygraybealwhat is the best / easiest way to get ssh onto the android?10:58
andygraybealerr.. sshd10:58
detulewhat is it that you are trying to do10:59
andygraybealdetule, ssh to the phone and .. i dunno... basically i'm putzing around.  i should probably just run rhobuntu on the phone and stop whining, but i'm afraid that it will hog memory.11:00
andygraybeali would like to run hamster :)11:00
andygraybealbut i'm going to try the android applicaiton 'time recording'11:00
detuledo you have adb going11:01
andygraybealno, i still need to learn about that.11:01
andygraybeali jsut figure ssh is easier :P11:01
andygraybeali'll learn adb then.11:01
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detuleif you are using linux, setting up adb is (almost) efortless11:10
andygraybealdetule, okay, thank you i will set it up :)11:13
rneese_linux who runs linux11:13
rneese_o wait android is linux11:13
rneese_I want to rewrite android tobe fbsd based11:13
rneese_lol11:14
andygraybealhah :)11:15
rneese_or slowlaris based11:16
rneese_or maybe even AIX based11:16
rneese_lol11:16
andygraybealokay, i need some more help.. i was hoping that i could test android and the related applications on this phone.. to see whether or not the phone could be useful to me.  i'm partially deaf and i hate phones.  but.. i was thinking i could use this as a "time tracking" device (yes, like the old PDA) and having a phone would just be a perk.  it is looking like.. i need to register my phone number in the android app store to11:17
andygraybealdownload applications?  this sounds like i want to run away.11:17
andygraybealif i can't use the phone, i have debian on my ipaq :) and i'll just use that :P11:17
rneese_andygraybeal I am a deaf user11:17
rneese_HArd of hearing11:18
rneese_I have hearing aids11:18
rneese_and what phone is it11:18
andygraybeali used to have hearing aids, in the 90s ...11:18
rneese_I use the purple relay service on my anroid11:18
andygraybealum.. it's a htc touch pro2 tilt2 or some such. rhodium10011:18
rneese_I uses sms and irc and trillian multi chat client to talk to friends when out and abotu11:19
rneese_ok11:19
rneese_it workds I have the touchpro2 not the tilt11:19
rneese_you have to use the Froyo build right now11:19
rneese_but it works great11:19
andygraybeal:))))))11:20
rneese_the gingerbread  aka GB build is not fully functionable11:21
rneese_also you would want to update the kernel in the install11:21
rneese_but I use my phone every day11:22
rneese_you also want to install the gen.y boot loader to make it boot android every time11:22
andygraybeali have froyo loaded too!  so easy11:23
andygraybealaah gen.y boot loader11:23
rneese_yeah dl the bootloader and you will have to test to see wich one of the loaders works best11:24
rneese_there are 5 diff modes in the zip file11:24
rneese_but once you get it right its nice11:25
rneese_ok need food brb11:26
rneese_just woke up need coffie and eggs11:27
andygraybealyes, i need coffee too.. i'ave had 2 bananas and 4 peices of toast!11:28
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andygraybeali'm signing up to the app store right now :)11:32
rneese_if you have a gmail account then you already are11:33
andygraybeal:)11:35
rneese_http://www.mydigitallife.info/dual-boot-windows-mobile-phone-and-google-android-with-gen-y-dualboot-and-haret/11:36
rneese_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=62379211:37
rneese_there is the links about gne.y11:37
rneese_gen.y even11:37
andygraybealah thank you for the linke!11:38
rneese_bbiab we are going to hit the shower and forage for food11:38
rpierce99detule: touchpad question11:38
rneese_bbiab11:38
rpierce99got a sec?11:38
detulesure11:38
rpierce99installed cm7 last night11:38
rpierce99working well, but after a while the touchscreen driver seems to have locked up11:39
rpierce99screen on works fine11:39
rpierce99power hold brings up the menu11:39
detulebut doesn't register any touches11:39
rpierce99but i get no response, so i'm not sure how to restart it11:39
rpierce99i could probably killall zygote11:39
rpierce99but is there a hard button combo?11:39
detulethe reset combo on the touchpad is11:39
detulepower and menu11:39
detulefor 10-15 secs11:39
rpierce99gotcha, and that will put it back into android by default now?11:40
detuleit should give you the moboot menu11:40
rpierce99oh ok11:40
rpierce99is this TS issue known?11:40
detuleif i've seen it and you11:40
rneese_what is cm7 ?11:40
detuleve seen it11:40
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detulei figure everyone else has11:41
rpierce99cool, thanks11:41
detulebut perhaps next time jonpry is around we should ask him about it11:41
detulei thought that might be one of the issues fixed in 3.511:42
rpierce99apparently not11:42
rpierce99but you're right, it's most likely jonpry's fault11:42
detuleyes perhaps if badmouth the ts driver enough11:44
detulewe can get them to switch to the one i helped him write11:44
rpierce99hm, moboot is pretty slick11:44
detulelk at its best11:45
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andygraybealhow do i cancel a search?12:24
andygraybeali seem to end up 'searching' for things ... but i don't mean to do this --12:24
andygraybealthe 'back' button often times .. prints up like 'dsikjhg' instead of going back12:25
rneese_not had that issue12:26
rneese_ok I have to get a kindal12:28
rneese_and load anroid on it12:28
rneese_bbrb12:28
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andygraybealwhat irc clients do you guys run on android?12:46
rneese_yaairc is what I use12:49
andygraybealnice12:49
rneese_yaaic12:49
andygraybeali'll look for that12:50
helicopter88Andchat here12:50
helicopter88or Androirc12:50
andygraybealok12:50
rneese_I just found out how to do tv out with my htc with out buying the expensive cable12:54
rneese_nice12:54
rneese_so I can surf on my tv when out12:55
andygraybealevery time i type a 'b' i get: 'b98nmcv'  anyone else get this?12:55
andygraybealis my keyboard snarfed?12:55
andygraybealit's brand new phone from ebay12:55
rneese_did you use the 100 or 110 boot load12:55
andygraybealrhod10012:56
rneese_no use the 11012:56
andygraybealif that' wht your talking about12:56
andygraybealthen i'm confused.12:56
rneese_the rhod110  is the right img12:56
rneese_it should fix your kbd issue12:56
andygraybealeven thoughi have a 100?12:56
rneese_if its a toch pro 2  it uses the 11012:57
andygraybealokay thank you12:57
andygraybealhow do i make sure this is a touchpro 212:57
andygraybealit says 'rhod100' underneath the battery12:58
andygraybealmaybe i got jyped on ebay12:58
rneese_ok mine is a 210 and you have a 100 ok12:58
rneese_I have a rhod21012:59
andygraybealthe marketing said this was a touchpro2 tilt212:59
rneese_so if yours says 100 then thats the righ img12:59
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andygraybeali hvae no idea what i'm doing, so mistakes are inevitable13:00
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rneese_thats fine13:00
rneese_it took me a 4 days to get things on mine working right13:01
rpierce99pressing a single key and getting multiple key outputs sounds like the keyboard, does the keyboard work properly in winmo?13:05
andygraybealrpierce99, lemme try13:11
rneese_rpierce99 have you done any tv out with your device13:11
rpierce99nope, not sure what i would ever use that for13:11
rneese_streaming video13:11
rpierce99i have 2 tablets now and don't know what i would use it for on those either13:11
rneese_ok13:12
rpierce99i have streaming video on my xbox, ps3, wii, etc13:12
rpierce99in fact i don't have cable anymore because of streaming video13:12
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rneese_we have a wii in the hose but its not mine13:13
rpierce99the wii is the hardest one to pull off streaming video13:13
rneese_I was looking at isung the android to do it when I want to stream13:14
rpierce99it doesn't have native DLNA support13:14
rpierce99but the netflix app is good13:14
rpierce99jonpry: curious if you have any idea what causes the touchscreen to lock up on the touchpad13:15
jonpryin cm7?13:16
rpierce99yeah13:16
jonprynot totally. it was fixed for awhile afaik13:16
rpierce99hm, just downloaded all the newest yesterday and it locked up on my wife13:17
jonprywhile using it or after a wake?13:17
rpierce99i'll have to ask her13:17
jonpryit used to do both. pretty sure its down to just after wake13:17
jonprysleeping and waking again usually fixes it13:18
rpierce99i had to hard reset13:18
jonpryugh13:18
andygraybealrpierce99, okay - bad news, it does it in winmo: b='b98n<enter>', 0='0uerqtyw', 6='6.7'  -- oh no oh no ;(13:19
rpierce99she said it was on wake13:19
rpierce99yeah, sorry man bad kb13:19
andygraybealrpierce99, what should i do?13:19
rpierce99well you could dispute the transaction as not as advertised, or you could suck it up and replace the keyboard13:19
andygraybeali just bougt the phone13:20
andygraybealuhgggg13:20
jonprybroken key?13:20
rpierce99s/?/board?/13:20
andygraybealis replaceing the keyboard easy enough; jonpry, that's what it's looking like13:20
rpierce99one key is sending multiple strokes13:21
andygraybeali got a bad 'b', '6', and '0'13:21
jonpryi've never taken mine apart13:21
andygraybealand i bought it offa ebay from hongkong ;P13:22
jonprybut with most of those kind of keyboards you can take it apart to remove the gunk and corrosion that usually causes it13:22
andygraybealit's brand new, you still think that is the prob?13:22
rpierce99http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-HTC-Touch-Pro-2-Keyboard/5544/113:22
jonpryhow brand new could it be?13:22
andygraybealjonpry, well, i don't know.13:22
andygraybealthanks fo rthe link rpierce9913:23
jonpryrpierce99, i'll install 3.5 and see what it does13:24
rpierce99you're running a3?13:24
jonprysomething close to a2 but before release13:25
rpierce99ah13:25
rpierce99well don't do it for me13:25
rpierce99if a2 is working well for you don't screw it up :)13:25
jonpryneeds to be done. got new touchpads13:25
jonpryyou ask in #cyanogenmod-touchpad ?13:26
rpierce99no, i asked detule and he said it was a known thing13:26
jonpryto degrees. like it was fixes but somebody had this crazy idea to save moar power13:27
rpierce99powering down the sensor in suspend?13:28
andygraybealwelp poop.. i want to cry now.13:30
andygraybealbrand new phone bad keyboard.. i am ashamed.13:30
rpierce99you could always just ignore the built in keyboard and just use the OSK13:30
andygraybealtrue, i was looking forward to learning the keyboard... maybe i would hate it.. i was going to leave it up to the future13:31
rpierce99it's pretty much universally loved by fans of hard keyboards13:31
rpierce99but some people don't care (me) because they don't text a lot13:31
andygraybealrpierce99, are you talking about the OSK ? (being loved?)13:32
rpierce99yes13:32
rpierce99no13:32
rpierce99hard keyboard13:32
rpierce99it's one of the best13:32
andygraybealaah okay, yea.13:32
andygraybeali've never had a phone, so i was looking forward to using it.  it's not like i need it.13:34
andygraybealimma goonna go see if i can find a replacement keyboard..  i have to keep this secret from my g/f or she'll scream13:35
rpierce99secrets and screaming, the heart of all good relationships :P13:35
andygraybeal:)13:37
andygraybealyes, i keep some purchases sacred.13:41
andygraybealit makes things easier.13:41
andygraybealmaybe i shouldn't have bought this phone.13:47
rpierce99ebay protects you against seller selling broken junk, why not just dispute it?13:48
andygraybealokay, i'll look into it.13:50
andygraybeali just figure it takes forever, i'm not sure though.13:50
andygraybealhapppy i didn't have 'root' the phone to do these changes.. just pop in xd card :)13:50
andygraybealsd card13:51
andygraybealare they calling them xd cards now?13:51
andygraybealor am i just confused :)13:51
rpierce99xD is an old standard, pretty much dead13:51
andygraybealyea13:52
andygraybeali still have a phone that takes them, it's going to be replaced this xmas :)  *gift for m lady*13:52
rpierce99hopefully not from hong kong on ebay :)13:53
andygraybealhahahaha13:53
andygraybealyou think i made a mistake?13:53
rpierce99i don't know nearly enough about your situation to answer that question, it was a joke :)13:53
andygraybealaah okay.13:54
andygraybealthakns, i understand it was a joke.. but i couldn't help but aks.13:54
andygraybealask13:54
andygraybealyou've been so helpful helping me understand this stuff13:54
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rneese-ok on from my phone14:05
rneese-whats going on14:06
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andygraybealrneese :)14:22
andygraybealrneese, turns out i needs me a new keyboard or file a complaint with ebay :(  i'm sad14:22
andygraybealor just use the OSK and stop whining14:23
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rneese-?14:26
rneese-so the kbd work in win mode ?14:26
rneese-let me get my laptop brb14:29
andygraybealrneese, nawp, the keyboard failed in winmo14:30
andygraybealhardwarefail badness.14:30
andygraybeali wonder if i should hvae stuck it out with my old ipaq :)14:30
andygraybeali got debian on it.14:30
rneese_1 min]14:30
rneese_ok back up14:31
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rneese_lets test a few things14:31
rneese_wipe and reload the sd14:31
andygraybealwell, i tested in winmo, and it failed14:31
rneese_and choose the rohd10014:31
andygraybealdoes that override what your about to say?14:32
rneese_hmmm14:32
rneese_try reseting the device14:33
rneese_there is a reset hole on the side of it14:33
andygraybealokay i will try14:33
andygraybealsomethng special, like hold down for 10secs, or only press and release?14:34
rneese_as far as I know hold it down and it will reset the phone14:35
andygraybealthere's no 'tactile' feeling from it, like it doesn't 'press down and pop back up' like most reset buttons i've used.14:36
andygraybeallemme find a paperclip14:36
rpierce99the stylus works14:37
rneese_brb14:37
andygraybealyea, stylus is what i've been using14:37
andygraybealpaperclip did it14:39
andygraybealmaybe i hvae to press harder with the stylus14:39
rneese_this will reset the device14:40
rneese_then test the kbx in winmode14:41
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andygraybealokay, i reset, it booted, winmo, keyboard test = no change - b, 6, and 0; all three fail14:41
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rneese_you could take the unit to a store they might be able to fix it14:42
andygraybealit' sfrom 2009 :)14:43
andygraybealbut maybe your right14:43
andygraybealwell thanks for your help14:44
rneese_how much did you pay on ebay for it14:44
andygraybeali think it ws $13014:44
rneese_get ahold of the person you bought it from and ask them if they had kbd issues14:44
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andygraybealyes yes.14:52
rneese_?14:53
andygraybeali was agreeing with you; relunctantly14:53
rneese_ok14:57
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rneese_rpierce99 how goes the rebuild og the GB build15:23
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pastorjHas anybody gotten the LED Flash light function to work on RAPH800?15:28
pastorjAnybody online atm?15:29
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rneese_yes but I only have a rohd 21015:30
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pastorjDo you have led flash light function working on your device?15:33
rneese_it flashes green when I have email yes15:36
rneese_andgreen when fully charged15:36
pastorjWhat about camera flash? I haven't been able to find an "onboard" solution for this, meaning one I can install right on the device15:38
rneese_no I have no led on the back for flsh15:40
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emwestinebd: hey. around?16:26
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rneese_man the holidays suck18:29
rneese_home alone this year is no fun18:29
rneese_so whats going on everyone taking the night off18:40
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ar_156Hi! Can Android be installed on a Rhodium without SD card?20:24
rneese_yes but it means reflashing the device20:26
rneese_and if you brick it20:26
ar_156Any tuto? any link?20:26
rneese_they cant help you20:26
ar_156Using Android from SD drain the battery, it must be better from NAND20:27
ar_156right or wrong?20:28
rneese_not really20:29
ar_156not really is a yes or a not?20:30
ar_156I know is safer on SD, but on NAND should be faster and will not drain the battery20:31
ar_156Any link for testing?20:31
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rneese_not that I have seen20:33
rneese_brb dog wants out20:33
rneese_ok back20:48
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rneese_ar_156 the big guy just got here talk to him20:59
rneese_rpierce99 how is your night going21:04
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rpierce99crazy busy21:04
rpierce99my daughters birthday today21:04
rneese_on a sunday wow21:04
rneese_ahh ok21:04
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rneese_how old ?21:05
rpierce99621:05
rpierce99ar_156: nand is actually worse for your battery at this point21:05
rpierce99and if it's that bad on your battery you are probably leaving gps enabled21:06
rpierce99and depending on your model it might not work at all21:06
rneese_the issue I have with gps is it if off till Iaccess a app that requires it21:10
rneese_but then it does not shut off when I close the opp21:10
rneese_the gps antenna stay active21:10
rpierce99once an app uses it, it will stay enabled until it's disabled from settings, even after the icon goes away21:10
rneese_ok21:10
rpierce99which destroys battery life21:10
rneese_btw with testing on the new battery I get 12 hours with wifi enabled21:11
rneese_I am going to reload this week and test a  fresh . I am having a few small issues with apps acting up21:16
rneese_rpierce99 I need the link for the updated  kernel again I lost the link21:36
rpierce99.27?21:37
rpierce99glemsom is back up: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/21:37
rneese_ok the froyo kernel21:39
rneese_so yes I believe 2721:39
rpierce99yep21:39
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rneese_ok21:48
rneese_thats done21:50
rneese_so I have  a new setup now if my new  micro sd gets here I can test21:50
jonpry27 cough cough21:57
rneese_?21:58
jonpryso old21:58
jonprydiseased21:58
rneese_jonpry we have to use 27 unit GB is updated21:58
rneese_then we can update21:59
rneese_and then would like to see ICS21:59
rneese_but fornow we use whats working22:00
jonpryi think its all in git. just no builds out yet22:00
rneese_well if there was a test build I would test but I bet it will need tweaking for gps and wifi like the others have needed22:01
rneese_but we will wait22:02
rneese_is there a how to on setting up a build server22:04
rneese_or are there online build servers22:04
rneese_that can be used22:04
rpierce99the official release will come out with stinebd's official release keys, all of the test builds are built with test keys22:05
rneese_I can setup a buildserver if I had the howto22:05
rneese_ok22:05
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ar_156just came back. Thx rneese_22:19
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ar_156thx rpierce9922:20
ar_156is it enough room in the phone? I mean, install in into the cellphone's storage memory?22:21
rpierce99what model22:22
ar_156Rhodium22:23
ar_156TP222:24
rpierce99model #, not marketing name22:24
rneese_look in the back cover under the battery22:24
rneese_RODD####22:24
rneese_ROHD22:25
rneese_lol22:25
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rneese_ilike rohd210 wich = to the t-mobile touch pro 222:26
ar_156T-Mobile22:27
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rneese_you have the t-mobile touch pro 2 ?22:28
ar_156yes22:28
rneese_then it should be a rohd210 under the battery22:28
ar_156yes22:29
ar_156it says free memory 110 MB, how much XAndroid takes?22:29
rneese_http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-touch-pro2/#tech-specs22:30
ar_156program free 110 MB, storage Free 262 MB22:30
rneese_it has 512 in it22:30
rneese_but how much do you have free22:30
rpierce99that has no impact22:31
rneese_th issue is it builds a 256 meg data22:31
rpierce99you can't run winmo in parallel with android22:31
rpierce99android overwrites winmo22:31
rneese_ok22:31
rpierce99and currently on rhod210, nand flashing is at best experimental22:31
ar_156ok, so can't install Android on the cellphone's memory22:31
rpierce99you can22:32
rpierce99but don't expect assistance22:32
rpierce99it's in testing22:32
rpierce99so if you want to do it yourself and report bugs22:32
rpierce99go for it22:32
rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=134732122:32
ar_156I mean, install the Android files on the cellphones storage memory, not flash into NAND22:32
rpierce99those are the same thing22:33
rpierce99you can't put it in the partition that is set up for data in winmo if that's what you mean22:33
rpierce99it has to overwrite winmo22:33
ar_156ok, it will overwrite WinMo's partition22:34
ar_156crash for sure! lol22:34
rpierce99it has to set up a whole new partition table22:34
jonprynand is not good22:34
jonpryits like molasses for your phone22:36
rneese_lol22:37
ar_156when installed on a FAT32 SD the android files doesn't affect other files on the SD, why should it affect WinMo FAT32 storage files?22:40
rpierce99holy cow my twitter, FB, and G+ just blew up about kim jong-il22:40
rneese_?22:43
rneese_wow22:46
rneese_ok22:46
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andygraybealhah, xda is not your friends house.  this is classic.23:09
andygraybealaight, gonna get the adb going.  i have vodka to help.23:18
rpierce99getting adb going isn't really something you have to set out to do, it's like, install an app23:19
rpierce99or something23:19
andygraybealhm.. i thought it was a long string of commands shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19446284&postcount=6223:20
andygraybealis there a better approach?23:21
stinebdHE DIED OF RONERINESS23:22
rpierce99i don't think you'll have to touch 99-android.rules23:22
rpierce99stinebd: too soon?23:22
stinebdnot caps enough?23:23
stinebddon't worry23:23
stinebdhis batshit insane spirit lives on in his fat ugly son23:23
stinebdassuming he's still alive23:24
jonpry100% defect free compositor23:24
andygraybealsorry to join late in the conversation, who are we talking about?23:25
stinebdkim jong-il passed away23:26
stinebdRIP23:27
jonprywhere is the GB release?23:28
jonprythis is not cm so we can ask for etas23:28
andygraybealaah23:28
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andygraybealwe just watched a documentary that had him in it23:29
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andygraybealwow, i'm reading about android in wikipedia, jobs said that he would spend his last breath destroying android?23:37
andygraybealthat's pretty harsh23:38
jonpryguess he did not succeed23:39
bzojonpry: compositor is done?23:42
rpierce99doesn't break 3d anymore?23:42
jonprythe output is 100%23:43
jonprystill no 3d apps23:43
bzonice23:43
jonprymaybe not fast enough23:43
bzoyou fixed blank as well?23:43
jonpryyes23:43
andygraybealan htc touchpro 2 is too slow to run cyanogenmod ?23:43
jonpryalthough i did it the easy way23:44
jonpryi'm running cm723:44
bzosometimes easy is best23:44
jonprythe hard way is related to getting 3d apps going though23:44
bzoheh, so maybe fix is prelim then23:45
jonpryi'm just sure that i care enough about 3d apps23:46
bzoonly apps that use 3d in system image are camera and gallery23:46
bzoand there is a 2d gallery version23:46
jonprygoogle maps?23:46
bzohmm, dunno23:47
rpierce99i'd guess it does, because of the 3d buildings, but without multitouch we can't see them23:47
bzoguess it must be something added to more recent versions, back when 3d was broken on rhod, google maps did work at the time23:48
bzoor maybe it has a fallback mode23:48
jonprycould be23:50
bzoso does gposit speed up the browser much?23:50
jonprydunno. haven't got wifi working in cm7 yet23:52
jonprydetule said its as good or better23:53
bzoso not decisively better than the regular fb yet?23:54
jonprydid you see the video?23:54
bzoI think so23:54
jonpryof go launcher ex23:55
bzoI use adw launcher ex, and it is pretty smooth on stock23:57
bzobut it does seem more fluid in your video23:57
jonpryperformance is strange it goes in like the opposite direction as stock23:57
bzoopposite direction?23:58
jonprylike its terrible when there is no real compositing to be done. ie full screen app. get a lot of layers going on and it starts to fly23:58
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bzooh ic, overhead when the hardware accelerated stuff is not being used23:59
jonpryright23:59
bzothink it is improvable much?23:59

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