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| SytheZN | Hi guys... anyone know how to set the smsc number? | 04:32 |
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| SytheZN | I did the whole *#*#4636#*#* thing and I get fetch failed | 04:34 |
| SytheZN | Then I phoned customer care and they said to dial *5005*7672*smsc# | 04:43 |
| SytheZN | But that doesn't do squat | 04:43 |
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| detule | arrrghhh, what do you use in V6 for settings these days? | 10:15 |
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| mgross029 | emwe, How's it going? | 12:02 |
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| mgross029 | Kernel Panic /proc/last_dmesg if anyone wants to take a look. I still haven't came across any helpful info on my googling. http://pastebin.com/mcJDTQHZ | 12:19 |
| mgross029 | It just happened. Phone was sleeping and not connected to anything in my holder. Just for fyi. | 12:20 |
| mgross029 | Better Pastebin disregard previous it was only the end. http://pastebin.com/EV9Z1fpL | 12:47 |
| emwe | mgross029: uh, never seen this. microp_ng read ... ahem. | 12:49 |
| mgross029 | You don't get this in your dmesg? | 12:50 |
| emwe | never seen, no. | 12:50 |
| emwe | so it resetted or SODed? | 12:51 |
| mgross029 | Reset to WM | 12:51 |
| mgross029 | msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: Error waiting for notbusy (0) ---- Looks like this was the cause | 12:51 |
| emwe | ah reboot, ok. | 12:51 |
| emwe | yeah, see it at the end. kernel-initiated reboot. | 12:52 |
| emwe | ok. | 12:52 |
| mgross029 | Pulled this from /proc/last_kmsg not dmesg like I mis-stated above | 12:52 |
| emwe | will keep the pastebin for further reference... not good, though. | 12:52 |
| mgross029 | Could it be related to this bug? http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9102 | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | detule, sorry i was /away | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | i use the 'middle' 512mb settings usually. | 12:53 |
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| arrrghhh | i think the balanced ones? option 8 if i'm not mistaken. i'm also on the 'beta' version of that script | 12:53 |
| emwe | mgross029: yeah, sounds related. | 12:56 |
| mgross029 | Ok... I'll do some more digging. Thanks | 13:00 |
| mgross029 | bbl | 13:01 |
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| SytheZN | Greetings gents, etc. | 13:03 |
| SytheZN | I've been googling all over but I can't seem to find where the smsc no is stored... | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | mmsc? | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | wtf is smsc. | 13:07 |
| SytheZN | It's not stored in the db with the messages is it? | 13:07 |
| SytheZN | Na, sms center number | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | no clue what that is. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:07 |
| SytheZN | Lol dial *#*#4636#*#* and have a look | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | we've never, ever needed to muck with that. | 13:08 |
| SytheZN | Well I can't update mine... | 13:08 |
| helicopter88 | SytheZN: are you gsm? | 13:08 |
| SytheZN | And my service provider sucks big hairy balls | 13:08 |
| SytheZN | I'm gsm and wcdma | 13:09 |
| helicopter88 | uhm,weird,i don't need any smsc,why do you? | 13:09 |
| SytheZN | Sp supports both | 13:09 |
| SytheZN | Well you can't send an sms without it | 13:09 |
| SytheZN | All messages are directed via the smsc to the recipients | 13:10 |
| helicopter88 | this is weird,i can send and reiceve without messing with it | 13:10 |
| SytheZN | Yeah well... most intl sp's provide it ota without your intervention | 13:11 |
| SytheZN | Only in this backward shithole I seem to run into walls wherever I turn | 13:11 |
| helicopter88 | lol | 13:11 |
| helicopter88 | as far as i know,but you've already checked it,*#*#4636#*#* is the only way | 13:12 |
| helicopter88 | maybe hacking source could do it too.. | 13:12 |
| SytheZN | I've added haret to my wm startup apps and set wm to airplane mode to stop incoming messages being delivered to the wrong os... you think that could have anything to do with it? | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | SMSC is blank | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | wm should always be in airplane mode | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | putting haret as a startup app is dumb tho. | 13:14 |
| SytheZN | I don't think so... when I phoned customer care they gave me a long number to dial to configure the smsc, butid didn't do squat | 13:14 |
| SytheZN | Lol why? | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | why would you do that? | 13:14 |
| SytheZN | I'm running off of my memcd | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | seems dumb. | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | memcd? | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | now you're just making stuff up. | 13:15 |
| helicopter88 | SytheZN: i hardly ever boot with airplanemode on wm..,i know this can cause problem,but since i just need basic 2g(sms),it isn't a problem | 13:15 |
| SytheZN | Eject gets me back into wm | 13:15 |
| rpierce99 | because you can't stop it from running, if you use a dual-boot app you can at least run winmo if you want to | 13:15 |
| SytheZN | I take out the memory card, boot wm and put it back in once it's booted | 13:15 |
| rpierce99 | sounds, painful | 13:16 |
| SytheZN | Lol | 13:16 |
| rpierce99 | doesn't matter though, your call man, it's your phone | 13:16 |
| rpierce99 | it's unrelated to your problem | 13:16 |
| helicopter88 | wouldn't yozgtag's dualboot app work better? | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | yozgtag's? | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've only heard of / used gen.y | 13:16 |
| SytheZN | Doesn't require user intervention, and startup apps are launched before the ui's finished loading so it boots quicker | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, that's a bad idea. | 13:17 |
| rpierce99 | something tells me you've never used gen.y | 13:17 |
| SytheZN | why? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | why would it be a good idea? | 13:17 |
| helicopter88 | arrrghhh: yozgtag is the gen.y man,SytheZN: use gen.y,it's better | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | who knows what winmo actually initializes anymore. do you know? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, ? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | i've used gen.y. a few times... | 13:18 |
| rpierce99 | talking to SytheZN | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | i never cared to notice who made it tho | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | damn you helicopter88 | 13:18 |
| SytheZN | well, if I change the winmo shell to calculator for instance, everytthing still seems to run ok | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, why the fuck would you do that | 13:18 |
| SytheZN | Why not? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | unless you only want to calculate things | 13:18 |
| SytheZN | I learn by fiddling | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | i'd guess that would be completely and utterly useless. | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what you're learning | 13:19 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: fucks, you are giving too many | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't like it. | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | FUCK | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | you're probably right. | 13:19 |
| rpierce99 | let SytheZN tinker, none of this has anything to do with sms | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | maybe | 13:20 |
| SytheZN | Lmao | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | how can you tell? | 13:20 |
| SytheZN | Well point is I can receive but not send | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, then your provider is the problem | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | as you've established. | 13:20 |
| SytheZN | Yeah I figured as much | 13:20 |
| rpierce99 | doesn't mean it can't be fixed | 13:20 |
| rpierce99 | android has to store the smsc somewhere | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | probably in that telephony db. | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | wild guess | 13:20 |
| SytheZN | Point is, where's the smsc stored so I can override it | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 13:21 |
| SytheZN | Lol | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | btw, you're the only one, ever to ask about this. | 13:21 |
| SytheZN | Late enter | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | at least i've never heard of anyone asking about this before. | 13:21 |
| SytheZN | Well not really... I saw a handful of other questions in the logs | 13:21 |
| rpierce99 | are you encoding the smsc when you input it? | 13:22 |
| SytheZN | Encoding? | 13:22 |
| rpierce99 | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15618 | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:22 |
| SytheZN | You mean +27????????? | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | i searched the logs, and you're full of it. | 13:22 |
| SytheZN | Type in smsc | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | i did | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | scottrea mentioned it in passing. | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | nothing definitive | 13:24 |
| rpierce99 | wow this e-peen contest is a little out of control | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | e-peen contest? | 13:24 |
| SytheZN | lol anyways... point is I'm not alone | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | "All the kernels work on all the devices..." | 13:24 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, uhm... k. | 13:24 |
| helicopter88 | arrrghhh: talking about me? :) | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, yea. that statement couldn't be more wrong. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | entertaining tho. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | neopeek.com always gives me a good laugh every now and then. | 13:25 |
| helicopter88 | i should edit it,but i'm too bored to do that :) | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 13:26 |
| helicopter88 | read now. | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | it's funny | 13:26 |
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| arrrghhh | still not accurate | 13:26 |
| SytheZN | Thanks rpierce99, that helps a lot | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't really care | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | entertaining nonetheless. | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, guess it doesn't really matter. | 13:27 |
| helicopter88 | dear arrrghhh,how can i improve my posting ability to be like you? | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | just drink some angry juice | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | tequila works well | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | i only give tequila to the ladies | 13:31 |
| SytheZN | Lmao | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, you mean dudes. | 13:31 |
| helicopter88 | ok,i'll drink smth before posting | 13:32 |
| SytheZN | rpierce99: So theoretickley all I've gotta do is boot wm and set my smsc there? | 13:33 |
| rpierce99 | potentially, it does say it's stored on the card | 13:33 |
| rpierce99 | but there are a lot of suggestions in that thread, so who knows if any of them work | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | gotta try 'em all? | 13:34 |
| SytheZN | Oki, I'll give it a try... thanks for the help :D | 13:34 |
| SytheZN | Brb 'n stuff... | 13:35 |
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| SytheZN | rpierce99: It worked :D thanks a mil | 13:48 |
| SytheZN | Although messaging was working in wm before I changed it so I don't really know wtf happened | 13:49 |
| rpierce99 | np | 13:51 |
| SytheZN | I dunno how you google cos I came up with squat in my searches | 13:52 |
| SytheZN | Teach me! You will be my master and I will be your padwan | 13:52 |
| * SytheZN licks his lightsabre | 13:53 | |
| SytheZN | You know anything about andchat? | 13:55 |
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| rpierce99 | i actually was a professional googler for over a year | 13:56 |
| rpierce99 | no joke | 13:56 |
| SytheZN | Serious :D that's awesome! | 13:56 |
| SytheZN | I miss the + command | 13:56 |
| rpierce99 | i actually googled for android smsc and clicked the 5th link | 13:57 |
| SytheZN | Quotes just don't have the same effect | 13:57 |
| SytheZN | Lol I was searching "android source smsc" | 13:57 |
| SytheZN | Trying to find out where I could manually change it | 13:58 |
| SytheZN | Didn't consider it being stored on the sim | 13:58 |
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| Sythe_ZN | Oi mein kap! Forking network | 14:03 |
| Sythe_ZN | Coming back to andchat, any idea why I can connect via edge/wcdma but not wifi? | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | so you had the SMSC set wrong in winmo? lol | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | at any rate, i assume everything else works on wifi but andchat? | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | i use andchat on my phone, never had a problem with it connecting. i rarely use wifi tho. | 14:06 |
| Sythe_ZN | Well that's just it... winmo was sending fine | 14:06 |
| Sythe_ZN | Yeah, everything else works ok | 14:06 |
| Sythe_ZN | And I can ping chat.freenode.net | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | droidwall? | 14:07 |
| Sythe_ZN | I don't think so... | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | well if you don't use the app you can just say "no" | 14:07 |
| Sythe_ZN | Considering I have no ideea what droidwall is | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | you really are dense... | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | that was just a straw i was grabbing at | 14:08 |
| Sythe_ZN | lol | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | because you can filter based on 3g/wifi | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno. logs? | 14:08 |
| Sythe_ZN | Oh I see... | 14:08 |
| helicopter88 | logcat will tell you why. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 14:08 |
| Sythe_ZN | Logs don't tell me much... all ad | 14:09 |
| Sythe_ZN | *andchat gives me is bad file | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | well since your google-fu is so fantastic | 14:09 |
| Sythe_ZN | Or else unresolved hostname | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | why don't you just post the logs for us to look at | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | so connect to andchat with 3g, pull logs | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | connect to andchat with wifi, pull logs | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | and we'll see what the diff is. | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | i assume you've tried on multiple WAP's? | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | they all fail? | 14:10 |
| Sythe_ZN | Oki, will do... thanks btw | 14:10 |
| Sythe_ZN | Yeah, one's got static extrenal ips and the other's dynamic | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | so separate access points? | 14:10 |
| Sythe_ZN | *external even | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | i mean like at your house or at work | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | or a friend's house | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 14:11 |
| Sythe_ZN | Yeah, not even associated | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | something that would be completely different | 14:11 |
| rpierce99 | i think it would be more likely to be related to port forwarding/NAT than external IP schema | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, for outbound? | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | unless he's running an irc server on his phone... | 14:11 |
| Sythe_ZN | Well on my work net I'm using an external ip, no nat | 14:11 |
| rpierce99 | but the router still has a firewall | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | true, but most are permissive on outbound | 14:12 |
| Sythe_ZN | Nah... router's open | 14:12 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i've never used andchat, i'm just basing it off the difference between cell and wifi | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i've used andchat many times before, never had a problem with it. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | i also used to connect directly to freenode. now i just hit my znc bouncer @ home. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | so Sythe_ZN - logs. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | logs from it working on 3g | 14:13 |
| Sythe_ZN | I mean, the router's used for hosting, but I'm connecting on the outside of our firewall | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | and logs from it failing on wifi | 14:13 |
| Sythe_ZN | Oki... will do | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | at the very least logs of it failing on wifi. | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | your work doesn't restrict anything with a filter/proxy/etc? | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | they allow IRC in other words? | 14:14 |
| Sythe_ZN | Any otherirc clients you could recommend? In the event of a catastrophic case of who the fuck knows | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | yaaic or something | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | search the market | 14:15 |
| rpierce99 | androirc i used once | 14:15 |
| rpierce99 | don't know if its good | 14:15 |
| Sythe_ZN | Nah, I'm network admin so I can safely say it's open | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:15 |
| Sythe_ZN | Small company btw :P | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | mmmhmmm | 14:16 |
| Sythe_ZN | 8 of us total | 14:16 |
| * Sythe_ZN has an MCSD & MCSE | 14:17 | |
| * rpierce99 just MCSA | 14:17 | |
| Sythe_ZN | Not that i'd shout it out in a crowded room or anything | 14:17 |
| rpierce99 | didn't you just? | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much | 14:17 |
| * Sythe_ZN hides under a pillow to avoid the flying rocks | 14:18 | |
| Sythe_ZN | lol I guess | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | also, you're proving that certs mean nothing. | 14:18 |
| Sythe_ZN | How so? | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | i'll never forget that creep that was fired. had certs out the ying yang, had a bachelors in computer science and a masters in something else IT related | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | and didn't know his ass from a hole in the ground | 14:19 |
| Sythe_ZN | lol | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | he looked SO good on paper. | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't interview him | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | but would've loved to have been a fly on the wall for that. | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see how he got thru it, other than pure BS. | 14:19 |
| rpierce99 | my old boss, his company paid for cert tests and books, so he would literally cram for like a couple days then go take a test, he didn't care if he failed because they were paying | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | he was fired within a couple of months. | 14:20 |
| rpierce99 | so he got his MCSE in like 2 months and knew nothing | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | damn... | 14:20 |
| Sythe_ZN | I can find my way around visual studio and server 2008 | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | my company will pay, but i think only once | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | Sythe_ZN, so can i | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | well, maybe not visual studio anymore | 14:20 |
| Sythe_ZN | lol I paid for my own exams & courses | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | my company won't pay for courses. | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | confuses the hell outta me | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | they'll send me to training | 14:21 |
| Sythe_ZN | Mine either | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | but nothing that will get me a cert directly. | 14:21 |
| Sythe_ZN | Lol | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | they'll pay for the test | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | but i think only once, and you have to pass it. i think if you fail, you have to pay lol. | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | i guess in that case they will pay only once, if you pass. | 14:22 |
| Sythe_ZN | Here, go to mriving school, but only on a playstation :P | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't looked into all the details. | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 14:22 |
| Sythe_ZN | *driving even | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | where did driving school come into this lol | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | we don't have any requirements for driving school here. | 14:22 |
| Sythe_ZN | lol lucky fuck | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | i wish we had stricter driving requirements | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps people would take it more seriously | 14:23 |
| Sythe_ZN | I suppose... neither does anyone else | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | as a privilege, not a right. | 14:23 |
| Sythe_ZN | Yeah | 14:23 |
| Sythe_ZN | Here we've got stats that say 40-60% of our drivers don't have licences | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:24 |
| Sythe_ZN | And at least half of the vehicles on the road're unlicenced or stolen :P | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | good lord | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | you're in SA? | 14:25 |
| Sythe_ZN | Yeah | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | remind me to never live there. | 14:25 |
| Sythe_ZN | We have these things called "taxis"... they're really just mini-vans with way too many passengers driving way too fast tho | 14:26 |
| * Sythe_ZN puts up a sign on the wall | 14:26 | |
| Sythe_ZN | Plus the government did away with the railway system so there's way too many trucks on the freeways | 14:27 |
| Sythe_ZN | And now they blame the drivers for the accident rates | 14:27 |
| * Sythe_ZN rolls his eyes | 14:27 | |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like i don't want to vaca there either, lol. | 14:28 |
| mgross029 | If anyone is interested I saw some micro SD class 4 8GB for $9.95 if anyone is interested. http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-8gb-microsdhc-secure-digital-flash-card-with-full-size-adapter/208403543.html | 14:29 |
| Sythe_ZN | although as they say, every rose has it's bramble bush | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | never heard that saying before :P | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, nice. i haz that card | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | came with a large adapter as seen and a usb dongle thingy | 14:30 |
| Sythe_ZN | Lol it's not too bad in the more "upper class" areas tho | 14:30 |
| Sythe_ZN | Schweet | 14:30 |
| mgross029 | The 16GB were $17 but sold out, unfortunately | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 14:30 |
| Sythe_ZN | Wonder what the import duties'll be tho | 14:30 |
| mgross029 | I think I saw some over a newegg for $18, but without the adapter I believe | 14:31 |
| Sythe_ZN | Brb... dinner's calling | 14:32 |
| detule | bzo, i just checked and my kernel over here is processing my conf file | 14:33 |
| bzo | hmm, doesn't seem to do so for me. How are you testing it? | 14:34 |
| detule | i am enabling a swap file "swapon /sdcard/swap" | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | detule, mine doesn't process either | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | what about the custom commands? | 14:35 |
| detule | i can see it cat /proc/meminfo | 14:35 |
| detule | it's in the custom commands | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have that rm command to get rid of the fsck files - and they don't get removed... | 14:35 |
| bzo | ditto | 14:35 |
| detule | (it's also getting rid of fsck) | 14:35 |
| detule | it's FSCK* btw | 14:35 |
| detule | bzo silly question you gb or froyo? | 14:35 |
| bzo | both | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | me2 ^^ | 14:36 |
| detule | this i am sure you already know but in gb it has to be gingerbread.user.conf | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | detule, this was always an issue with .39 | 14:36 |
| bzo | yep, that's what mine is | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see how/why the kernel would effect it | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | but it does... | 14:36 |
| detule | arrrghhh, don't know what to tell you but i am definitely seeing a swap file | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | what have you done :P | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | or better yet, what have i not done... | 14:37 |
| bzo | detule - did you edit out anything before the user area? | 14:37 |
| detule | no | 14:37 |
| detule | btw if the conf file is not getting processed | 14:37 |
| detule | it could be causing some of the issues you guys are seeing, i haven't looked at it closely but aren't there some VM commands in there? | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | i believe so, yes. | 14:38 |
| bzo | btw, I was getting massive slowdowns yesterday | 14:38 |
| bzo | just took a bit longer than arrrghhh I guess | 14:38 |
| detule | also, gb seems more intensive on ram usage, the launcher i am using gives me "free memory readouts" not sure how accurate they are | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | how long before they kicked in? | 14:39 |
| detule | but they are significantly lower than in froyo | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | the slowdowns that is bzo | 14:39 |
| detule | my take is also that it's probably a good idea to have a swap file | 14:39 |
| bzo | after any use really. I can play with the launcher indefinitely | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 14:39 |
| bzo | but starting the browser or market tends to kill everything | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea that was pretty much the same for me. | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | even swiping to different desktops was impossible | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | opening the app drawer as well | 14:40 |
| mgross029 | detule, using Go Launcher? | 14:40 |
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| bzo | so this mem speculation detule metioned is plausible | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | but why would his conf file be processed and ours not? | 14:40 |
| detule | mgross029, yes | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | detule, have you tested this on a 'vanilla' setup? | 14:41 |
| mgross029 | Same here... I've noticed high mem usage as well | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | or are you always on dedicated ext4 partitions? | 14:41 |
| detule | oh yeah this is with partitions and ext4 | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 14:41 |
| detule | mem usage in gb is very very high | 14:41 |
| detule | at least compared to froyo at least as measured by whatever this thing is using | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know why that would have anything to do with it, just trying to figure out where our differences lie. | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:41 |
| detule | i can tell it's using my swap file much more than in froyo too | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | gb seems to run better tho, ironically. | 14:41 |
| bzo | arrrghhh: is there a bug in 39 also where the kernel params from startup.txt are not getting passed? | 14:42 |
| detule | the oc parameter is changed since jonpry changed the file name to acpuclock-arm11.c | 14:43 |
| detule | so it should be acpuclock-arm11.blah_blah | 14:43 |
| detule | at least i think, i haven't actually tried overclocking | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | bzo, not that i know of, but OC i don't think works in .39 | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | separate of that name change | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think you can OC .39 | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | although, now that you mention that name change - i can't remember testing it specifically :/. | 14:44 |
| bzo | ok, wondering perhaps if the rel_path is not getting passed and causing the issue | 14:44 |
| detule | it wouldn't be booting then | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | you wouldn't boot | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | it wouldn't be able to find the rootfs | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | unless you put it at the root of your SD card, to screw with yourself :P | 14:45 |
| bzo | yeah, u guys are right | 14:45 |
| mgross029 | This could be the reason I get halted on console stating it can't find /data | 14:45 |
| detule | mgross029, if it can't find data it will just create on | 14:46 |
| detule | e | 14:46 |
| mgross029 | Hmmm... Latest autobuild .39 kicks out the # prompt and just waits for my input | 14:47 |
| detule | to enable swap just by using busybox "dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdcard/swap bs=1M count=128; mkswap /sdcard/swap; (in conf file) swapon /sdcard/swap" | 14:48 |
| mgross029 | I'll have to test again with clean build to see if I get it again. | 14:48 |
| detule | do some echo-ing or something in the custom shell see if you see it in the flying text.....what is it "sleep 5" would stop for a few seconds? | 14:49 |
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| bzo | arrrghhh: is your rm fsck* lower or upper? | 14:51 |
| bzo | definately used to work lower in 27, but doesn't seem to work in the shell in 35/39 | 14:51 |
| bzo | maybe some new case sensitivity changes since then, or loading as vfat vs fat | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | lower or upper? | 14:52 |
| bzo | fsck* vs FSCK* | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | good point. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i want to say lower, let me verify | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | (which, the filenames are created in upper IIRC?) | 14:53 |
| bzo | yeah | 14:53 |
| bzo | or at least they are in 35/39 | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:53 |
| bzo | maybe they were created lower in 27? | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea i have it lower in both conf's | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:54 |
| detule | emwe, so this caps/fn code is nice, but a warning, the led code depends on whether the application that is currently offering the text input field implements that MetaKeyListener | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | i could just add another line with it uppper, that would rule it out. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | hrm i wonder if the other commands were getting processed | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | the modprobe commands | 14:55 |
| detule | so for example the leds work fine in the browser search bar, but in connectbot, they don't work | 14:55 |
| bzo | easy enough to see by doing an lsmod after boot | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes being the lone ranger on NAND sucks. | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | i hate getting back to HaRET for testing :P | 14:56 |
| bzo | is the g sensor supposed to work in 35 or 39? | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't work in .35 | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | doubtful it works in .39 | 14:57 |
| detule | i don't think that's .35 or .39 dont know if it's implemented in libsensors in gb | 14:58 |
| detule | wait is g-sensor auto rotate? | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | detule, g-sensor worked in gb.... | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | i swears | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:59 |
| detule | well .39 and 06+ g-sensor works | 14:59 |
| detule | coz my screen certainly auto rotates | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | .39 + GB = no love? | 14:59 |
| detule | maybe gb reads it at a different place | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i need to get back on HaRET :P | 15:00 |
| bzo | that's the problem with using nand right now, too many damn variations of crap | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | well, there's only one NAND to be fair :P | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | one kernel, one bootloader | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | now we have 2 userland variants tho | 15:02 |
| detule | rhod users are the only one that have variety really....i was working in my tree without any regard for other devices | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:03 |
| detule | however i think emwe is doing it correctly in his tree and i am trying to follow his example, move all device specific code out of the drivers, and into board files | 15:04 |
| detule | so if someone comes along and wants to port this business to raph, they just need to copy/create the board files rather than go hunting inside /drivers | 15:04 |
| bzo | yeah I think that's the main goal for the 35 tree | 15:05 |
| bzo | clean up all the hacks | 15:05 |
| detule | i am trying to do this in .39, but it's going to take a bit of time.....almost there with the leds | 15:05 |
| detule | which is the all encompassing maze of microp-klt and microp-ksc | 15:06 |
| bzo | micro* is a mess | 15:06 |
| detule | i'll buy myself a beer when we no longer compile those guys | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:07 |
| bzo | anyhow, 35+gb seem to run pretty well | 15:08 |
| bzo | though I still can't seem to get sound working | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | orly? | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | you put all those CSV's at the root of your card? | 15:08 |
| bzo | yup | 15:08 |
| bzo | there are no permissions hacks need in init are there? | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | not with that rootfs i gave you | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | actually, the autobuild rootfs should have that /dev change as well. | 15:09 |
| bzo | better double check how old my rootfs is... | 15:09 |
| detule | bzo, can't play ringtones via settings->sound? | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | bzo, i thought i gave you a rootfs with the gb build? | 15:10 |
| bzo | detule, that's how I tested | 15:10 |
| bzo | arrrghhh: yeah you did | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | use it ;) | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | assuming you are, i'm not sure what would trip you up off the top of my head. | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | did you reuse an ancient data.img maybe? | 15:10 |
| bzo | I'm gonna update it, probably the problem. | 15:11 |
| bzo | new data.img | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | certainly worth a shot. | 15:12 |
| bzo | other weirdness is that the ts calib is wack | 15:12 |
| detule | .35 uses a different touchscreen driver, not sure if that makes a difference | 15:13 |
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| SmUlTring^ | hello | 15:13 |
| bzo | detule - yeah, that's probably it | 15:13 |
| SmUlTring^ | hello, how can i create a renderer for my glview? | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | SmUlTring^, i'm struggling to see how that's related to XDAndroid | 15:13 |
| bzo | probably explains why there are 2 ts type files I see in /data | 15:13 |
| SmUlTring^ | whats XDandroid? | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | the room you're in | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | you crazy nord | 15:13 |
| SmUlTring^ | ok | 15:14 |
| SmUlTring^ | any java developer here? | 15:14 |
| bzo | detule - do 35 and 39 use the same ts driver? | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | SmUlTring^, if you don't have an XDAndroid related question... please, find another room. | 15:14 |
| detule | i am no expert but i think 35 uses msm_ts and 39 uses whatever is in 27 (tss_manager?) | 15:15 |
| SmUlTring^ | ok | 15:15 |
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| emwe | detule: no idea about .39, but .35 is msm_ts, yes. | 15:15 |
| emwe | and i usually have issues with ts reacting after wake. have to wait some seconds for it to be functional. | 15:15 |
| bzo | emwe - does 35 have a calibration function? | 15:16 |
| emwe | nope | 15:16 |
| emwe | panel calib is hardcoded in board-htcrhodium.c | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:17 |
| emwe | up until now, nobody has complained. | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't even notice | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | ACL does the same thing in NAND | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | er, something similar. not sure if it's exactly the same. | 15:17 |
| bzo | maybe my ts is different, but I can barely use the onscreen keyboard with the default calib | 15:18 |
| emwe | i think calibs are stored in nand and can be voodoo'ed out of there. iirc jb posted a decoding function to the ML earlier this year. | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | bzo, isn't the reason you got a RHOD is so you don't have to use the on-screen kb? :P | 15:18 |
| emwe | bzo: you have a physkeyb! :P | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, yes, you can pull calibs out of thar | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | but obviously cdma/gsm devices are different | 15:18 |
| bzo | wat?? I though the phone was just fat! :P | 15:18 |
| emwe | bzo: so yeah, if this is actually a pita, you interessted in reading ts-calib out? ;) | 15:18 |
| emwe | dunno if it's worth switching to tssc_manager again | 15:19 |
| bzo | tssc_manager does seem more responsive | 15:19 |
| emwe | vbuttons are in there with no extra effort. | 15:19 |
| emwe | yeah, might be. | 15:19 |
| bzo | noticed there are more lost gestures with 35 | 15:19 |
| emwe | allthough i have the suspicion my topa ts works much better with msm_ts then rhod | 15:19 |
| emwe | bzo: yeah. perhaps we need to port over tssc again :/ | 15:20 |
| bzo | msm_ts was the driver first used in 27 also right? | 15:20 |
| emwe | uh, dunno. i came in later. | 15:20 |
| bzo | I seem to remember it being so | 15:20 |
| bzo | emwe - how is it that you ended up using a 35 tree? | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | blame alex | 15:23 |
| emwe | ehm, blame the plan to go .35 | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | whose plan was that tho? | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | i thought alex was the gent that set out on it | 15:25 |
| bzo | there's gotta be some way we can work from a more common base | 15:25 |
| emwe | he took a bottle of wodka and hacked it up in one night or so | 15:25 |
| bzo | I hardly know where to get involved :/ | 15:25 |
| emwe | me neither. | 15:25 |
| emwe | detule's been trying to tear microp-klt apart for .39 ... kinda the style of .35 microp | 15:26 |
| emwe | i got some stuff left.. but can't really concentrate without issue tracking of userland somehow | 15:26 |
| emwe | bzo: wanna maintain userland? :P | 15:26 |
| bzo | that's probably the area I know the least | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:28 |
| bzo | what are the userland issues? stuff that hasn't been ported to gb yet? | 15:28 |
| emwe | acoustic and caps/fn patch. the latter lying around here. i just didn't apply the patches... | 15:29 |
| emwe | anything else, dunno. | 15:29 |
| emwe | bt file transfers to the phone? can somebody test out? | 15:29 |
| emwe | prox behaviour on call seems "broke". blanks panel immedeatealy. | 15:30 |
| emwe | (might be a kernel driver issue. htc's driver variant reads the gpio multiple times in the hope for the value reported to stabilize or so... there must be a reason they read it out like 10 times before reporting.) | 15:30 |
| detule | emwe, i noticed this about .35 - i don't get this in .39 at all | 15:31 |
| detule | could this somehow be a function of that module parameter you added? | 15:31 |
| detule | my in-call screen stays on until i cover up the prox sensor | 15:31 |
| emwe | no, that is just my hack. was the case before. | 15:31 |
| emwe | ehm, where's the prox driver in .39? | 15:32 |
| mgross029 | emwe, my car's bt pulls the phonebook from my phone on initial pairing. That should be a file transfer. Other than that don't have anything set up BT on my PC's to test out at the moment | 15:33 |
| detule | drivers/misc/input same spot as in .35:) | 15:33 |
| emwe | mgross029: nope, that is another protocol. that is not bt-ftp protocol. | 15:33 |
| detule | emwe, i bet it's these enable_irq disable_irq calls in enable/disable | 15:33 |
| detule | oh emwe my tree, not in autobuild yet | 15:34 |
| emwe | ah :) ... | 15:34 |
| emwe | detule: one sec. adding your remote. | 15:34 |
| bzo | detule do you have a strong inclination to stay on the 39 tree? | 15:35 |
| detule | not really, however everything seems to be done in 35, if one wants something to do one needs to find something broken it seems | 15:35 |
| bzo | feels like the 35 and 39 trees are broken in different ways :) | 15:36 |
| * mgross029 breaks things all the time. :p | 15:36 | |
| detule | oh bzo about my .39 tree, i already submitted a merge request towards the .39 autobuild tree | 15:37 |
| bzo | great | 15:37 |
| bzo | the clock stuff? | 15:38 |
| detule | everything | 15:38 |
| detule | you can see it in the linux-msm-rhod gitorious tree | 15:38 |
| detule | it's an open merge request, and WisTilt2 said he'd give it a once over | 15:38 |
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| bzo | how about you emwe? what are your thoughts on staying on 35? | 15:42 |
| emwe | bzo: i am "split". i don't have much time to take of it since i would like to get userland a bit more polished and ready. | 15:43 |
| emwe | ideally i'd like to continue the extraction of device specific code out of the drivers. | 15:43 |
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| emwe | but... not as hard as perhaps alex has. | 15:44 |
| emwe | dunno. | 15:44 |
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| bzo | how major of a project do you think it is to migrate your 35 improvements to 39? | 15:44 |
| emwe | microp is a bitch... | 15:44 |
| emwe | well, it's mostly been alex work | 15:44 |
| emwe | should be doable. what took the longest time is getting stuff going. | 15:44 |
| detule | btw, what does it mean in GB when the signal/data indicators turn white rather than green? | 15:45 |
| emwe | or rather.. get stuff stable. i need this phone working. not features. | 15:45 |
| emwe | then your connection is broke. either it fixes itself or you need to data-toggle. | 15:45 |
| bzo | emwe - yeah, I actually use this phone too | 15:45 |
| emwe | bzo: so i can't really advertise on anything. | 15:45 |
| emwe | bzo: i had some strange SODs reappearing here out of nothing. or IO SODs. updated my mp3 yesterday and on fresh boot it froze on me three times or so | 15:46 |
| emwe | i have - lukcily - no arm9 resets or so... except i gps-navigate and somebody calls me ... | 15:46 |
| emwe | bzo: perhaps you'd like to dive into the .35 bt-off-no-sleep issue? | 15:48 |
| mgross029 | detule, I've notice on a new build it stays white until you Account Sync. After the account sync is done it will green. If you make a call 3G drops and it goes white then after the call is complete 3G comes back and goes green again. | 15:48 |
| mgross029 | that is for cdma btw | 15:48 |
| emwe | sometimes for gsm this doesn't work. | 15:48 |
| detule | i just plugged in the usb and i can't get it back | 15:49 |
| detule | airplane on/off did the trick | 15:50 |
| bzo | emwe I haven't decided which kernel to play with yet | 15:50 |
| emwe | detule: i sometimes even have total network drop. in such cases i just the "x-signal-bar". nothing will help except reboot or "stop/start ril-daemon" | 15:50 |
| bzo | I'd like to see if there is willingness to converge our efforts | 15:50 |
| emwe | bzo: there is. i just don't have the time switch again. | 15:50 |
| bzo | so specific issues are kinda moot to me until then... | 15:50 |
| emwe | bzo: i intented to rebase on alex .35 and put rhod/topa in there again. but you see.. time is limited. | 15:50 |
| bzo | yeah, I know, there is some pain to converge | 15:50 |
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| emwe | bzo: it's just the time factor hindering from doing it. i don't have the time wasting it. | 15:51 |
| bzo | yes, I agree, don't have tons of time myself lately | 15:51 |
| emwe | so .35 bt sleep or fix or whatever would be welcome for .39 as well i think | 15:52 |
| emwe | jonpry disabled it again | 15:52 |
| emwe | also brcm wifi needs love on both. 35 and .39 | 15:52 |
| emwe | neither works. | 15:52 |
| detule | er wifi works on .39 | 15:52 |
| emwe | oh it does? | 15:52 |
| emwe | cool | 15:52 |
| emwe | missed the point where jonpry got it going. | 15:53 |
| detule | it just needs up-to-date firmware | 15:53 |
| emwe | oh? | 15:53 |
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| emwe | detule: you like to play the postman including the place to be dropped written down? | 15:53 |
| detule | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15813070&postcount=158 | 15:53 |
| emwe | lol, i even got that file already on my desktop from months ago | 15:54 |
| emwe | detule: is this firmware known to be backwards compatible to .27 bcrm432x driver? | 15:56 |
| detule | emwe, good question, no idea | 15:56 |
| emwe | the location sounds like rootfs to me. | 15:57 |
| detule | in 06+ it's system | 15:57 |
| detule | i think there's some linking | 15:57 |
| bzo | detule, btw what rhod model do you have | 15:58 |
| emwe | yeah, that is bind mounted i am sure. | 15:58 |
| detule | rhod400 | 15:58 |
| bzo | ok, same as me | 15:59 |
| bzo | so the 39 thrashing must be some environmental factor | 15:59 |
| bzo | have you always run swap? | 16:00 |
| emwe | bzo: i had some issues a while back before i switched cfq to deadline scheduler. it got better with lmk mods in rootfs. i nevertheless see a shitload of IO at occassions here. | 16:01 |
| detule | oh yeah this is deadline as well | 16:01 |
| emwe | ideally we'd be running noop. | 16:01 |
| detule | i think .39 was noop | 16:02 |
| detule | before i changed it to deadline | 16:02 |
| emwe | .35 was cfq | 16:02 |
| emwe | sapphire defconfig it was for me iirc | 16:02 |
| emwe | haven't had the time trying bfs | 16:02 |
| detule | i think you can change it on the fly by echo-ing to some location, i left noop in there just changed the default | 16:02 |
| emwe | yap, you can. | 16:02 |
| emwe | grep sysfs for scheduler | 16:02 |
| emwe | many opportunities :) | 16:03 |
| emwe | so what did i wan't to break again? | 16:03 |
| bzo | I was using detule's kernel though | 16:03 |
| emwe | the .39 slowdowns are still present? | 16:03 |
| bzo | yep, bigtime | 16:03 |
| emwe | do you have some io meter around? | 16:03 |
| bzo | you mean some sort of android app? | 16:04 |
| emwe | i use ioview | 16:04 |
| emwe | who was it again? somebody in here.... | 16:04 |
| bzo | I should check it out | 16:04 |
| bzo | though once it thrashes, teh device almost is locked up | 16:04 |
| emwe | now... i don't run a CPU freq widget... perhaps what i see when high IO load is, that CPU runs @128mhz? | 16:05 |
| emwe | not sure... | 16:05 |
| emwe | think not. | 16:05 |
| emwe | sometimes i can flip home screens fine but still high load. | 16:06 |
| emwe | a bitch. | 16:06 |
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| emwe | you got mail. | 16:07 |
| emwe | i run seepu + that. | 16:07 |
| emwe | update cycle is quite slow though... | 16:08 |
| bzo | ok, thx | 16:08 |
| emwe | if i start with such an app now, i know i will get nothing else tested out and worked on. | 16:09 |
| detule | deadline could be to blame....i think my device is not acting as nicely as it did a few commits ago | 16:10 |
| emwe | hm. perhaps switching back to cfq or going noop is better | 16:11 |
| emwe | (for you) | 16:11 |
| emwe | perhaps you can do some tests. | 16:11 |
| emwe | what i can say is, that the updated lowmemorykiller options did fasten the device like mad. | 16:11 |
| emwe | when RAM was hogged, it took a while for the app states to be serialized back to "disk". | 16:11 |
| emwe | and then it could launch new apps. | 16:12 |
| bzo | there's some other thing that v6 script does right? page pooling or something? | 16:13 |
| emwe | i once looked at the script and was like... wtf. i won't extract more info out of it | 16:13 |
| emwe | some vm params i dunno about | 16:13 |
| emwe | the lmk options where a great thing to start with. | 16:14 |
| bzo | lol, arrrghhh says one of those other params is supposed to do more than the lmk settings | 16:14 |
| emwe | i think the ones in rootfs (uncommited but shared) are from SC | 16:14 |
| emwe | even more? :P | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | well | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | the developer zeppelinrox claims so | 16:14 |
| emwe | then share the secret. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | the OOM groupings | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | zep claimed helps moar than just the lmk | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | plus he also does some voodoo with the launcher | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | "die-hard"? | 16:15 |
| detule | perhaps this deadline business is not affecting me so acutely because of the ext4 partitions | 16:15 |
| emwe | launcher is no issue for me. | 16:15 |
| detule | i just used a task killer to make sure market and maps are closed, and launched them from stand still and they launched super fast..... | 16:15 |
| emwe | detule: you ext4 also? hm. mee too since around the time i switched back and forth... at some point stayed ext4. | 16:15 |
| emwe | bzo: you ext4? | 16:16 |
| detule | it's funny the reason i got interested in .39 was nilfs2 | 16:16 |
| detule | and here i am with ext4 | 16:16 |
| bzo | no, loop | 16:16 |
| emwe | no, we meant ext4 data | 16:16 |
| emwe | i am also looped | 16:16 |
| detule | after bleeding for weeks trying to cross compile the cleaner daemon | 16:16 |
| bzo | just the standard data.img created | 16:16 |
| emwe | bzo: ext4dev as cmdline param | 16:17 |
| emwe | bzo: if bored, try and see if it fixes your "slowness"? | 16:17 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: is that magic voodoo param shared somewhere in the threads? | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what his script does | 16:18 |
| bzo | I guess the journaling of ext4 could mask some of the slow IO | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | you can read thru the supercharger thread... | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | sorry mate, i don't know what he does off the top of my head. | 16:18 |
| emwe | ok, thanks. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | today is a bad day. | 16:18 |
| detule | bzo, this guy has noop as default http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/39/39KerModPackage11-07.tar.gz | 16:19 |
| bzo | I can give it a shot. It doesn't feel like the scheduler should be able to make that drastic of a difference though | 16:21 |
| detule | i have very little understanding of noop vs deadline, i just remember people/starfox used to swear by deadline in starfox's kernel thread | 16:21 |
| detule | try also enabling the swap file, i am currently using 20MB/128 | 16:22 |
| bzo | bbl | 16:22 |
| mgross029 | emwe, the v6 script is pretty open. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 If interesting. I've opened it in a text editor but haven't disected it to see what makes it tick. :p | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | there's a couple of lines in thar | 16:25 |
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| emwe | what was the name of the option zeppelinux mentioned? | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | OOM | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | out of memory groupings | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 16:30 |
| mgross029 | emwe, ^^^^ There is a link to his thread | 16:30 |
| emwe | boys i am getting old. lol... arrrghhh mentioned it 5 minutes ago. | 16:30 |
| emwe | too much computer, anyone?... | 16:31 |
| mgross029 | lol | 16:31 |
| mgross029 | No I'm old... You're still a pup. heh | 16:31 |
| emwe | that thread is a PITA. | 16:33 |
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| arrrghhh | that thread is kind of a cluster | 16:34 |
| mgross029 | the OOM values are in /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/adj as far as I can tell | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | he claimed in GB they were haywire | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | kinda hard to believe... but whatever. lots of phones have used that script, all with good results. | 16:36 |
| emwe | hm, don't see what he does in there exactly. iterates through the apps and adjusts their oom_adj param. likely to the same values for all | 16:38 |
| emwe | (all in the same oom group) | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | all in the same group? | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | that seems... ahem, dumb. | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it puts essential system apps in a different group? | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | or something like that...? | 16:39 |
| emwe | might also be. i don#t get that script stuff becasuse i am bad at itt | 16:39 |
| emwe | s/itt/it | 16:39 |
| emwe | he would be better of writing a native app for that stuff. | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | i told him that | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | and he said something like "i'd love for this to be an app" | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | so i think the issue is, he doesn't know how to write apps... just wrote a script and now he's turning it into a juggernaut. | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | seems like it would be much easier to configure/interact with/etc if it wasn't a script... | 16:41 |
| emwe | yeah. and i can read java much better :P | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:41 |
| detule | nowadays with eclipse writing android apps is all point and drag with the mouse | 16:41 |
| emwe | huh? i hate click and drag. | 16:42 |
| emwe | you need to provide the controller logic nevertheless. | 16:42 |
| emwe | and model ... | 16:42 |
| detule | i think for the type of app needed to drive that v6 script you wouldn't need much more | 16:43 |
| detule | just throw in some radio buttons | 16:43 |
| emwe | yeah :) | 16:43 |
| emwe | right | 16:43 |
| detule | and a big button execute | 16:43 |
| emwe | ok... welcome SOD with panel on... | 16:43 |
| emwe | bah... | 16:44 |
| emwe | wtf. where is this coming from... | 16:44 |
| mgross029 | Now that is a weird one... | 16:45 |
| mgross029 | Haven't seen that before. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i've had it | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | VERY rarely. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | wasn't anything i could tie together, so i just chalked it up to another hiccup. | 16:46 |
| mgross029 | It's more like an AOD (Awake of Death) | 16:46 |
| detule | i think i am about to declare noop > deadline | 16:46 |
| mgross029 | :p | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:47 |
| rpierce99 | laws of physics, broken. LESS > MORE. More at 11. | 16:47 |
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| SytheZN | So I worked out the issue with andchat... | 17:08 |
| SytheZN | Turns out it's my dns server | 17:08 |
| SytheZN | The only link between the two networks | 17:08 |
| SytheZN | Go figure. lol | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | well, my test would've ruled that out... but ok. | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | at least you got it fixed | 17:09 |
| SytheZN | Yeah, but what would I have learned | 17:09 |
| SytheZN | :P | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | that there is indeed something up with your WAP? | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | *shrug8 | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | er | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:10 |
| SytheZN | Thanks for the offer tho | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:10 |
| SytheZN | Problem solving skills come from experience do they not | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | yea, and my experience told me to tell you to try a different WAP | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | which you claimed you did | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | evidently you did not. | 17:12 |
| SytheZN | Yeah I did... | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | but whatever. glad you figured it out nonetheless. | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | then it should've worked... | 17:12 |
| SytheZN | The difference is they were both pointing at my works dns server | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | as you said, it was an issue on YOUR dns server. | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | so that wasn't a good test | 17:13 |
| SytheZN | True | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | hence why i suggested try a starbucks | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | a friend's house | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 17:13 |
| SytheZN | Yeah lol but that's what got me thinking | 17:13 |
| SytheZN | So thanks | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | np | 17:14 |
| SytheZN | :) | 17:14 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i'm at work! but look https://plus.google.com/b/117506466922494505137/ | 17:16 |
| stinebd | don't go doing anything stupid like posting that in a public irc channel though | 17:16 |
| stinebd | it ain't done yet | 17:16 |
| stinebd | globviously | 17:16 |
| stinebd | k bye | 17:17 |
| SytheZN | So the question at hand... what sdcards work best speed-wise? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, for Android? doesn't matter. | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | the lower the class the better it seems | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | people reported SanDisk cards without a class were some of the best for random write performance. | 17:18 |
| SytheZN | Kewl... i'll take a look with our suppliers | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Ty | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Is there any way I can use my raph's internal storage for swap? | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Considering there isn't enough space for the whole system | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think so | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | Android knows nothing of the internal memory | 17:20 |
| emwe | yeah stinebd :P | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | you can swap to the SD | 17:20 |
| SytheZN | Ah | 17:21 |
| SytheZN | Thanx | 17:21 |
| SytheZN | Cheers | 17:21 |
| SytheZN | Sleep beckons | 17:21 |
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