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| SytheZN | Greetings etcetera | 04:07 |
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| SytheZN | So I've been reading through the aos documentation | 04:30 |
| SytheZN | Apparently there's a tool called makecharset which builds the binary file | 04:31 |
| SytheZN | They say it's created to speed things up but it should run without it | 04:32 |
| SytheZN | only prob is I don't have a pc to run it on | 04:34 |
| SytheZN | Anyone want to volunteer to build and e-mail? | 04:34 |
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| AOSP_BUILD_HELP | can nyone help me... tryin to build frm aosp | 06:16 |
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| SytheZN | Houston we have a problem... | 09:06 |
| helicopter88 | SytheZN: Are you exploding in the space? | 09:07 |
| SytheZN | Something like thay :P | 09:08 |
| SytheZN | *that even | 09:08 |
| helicopter88 | what's the problem? failing with the key layout or? | 09:09 |
| SytheZN | Nah, I'm getting somewhere with the key layout | 09:10 |
| SytheZN | Apparentley there's a tool called makecharset that creates the bin file on build to speed up the text entry procedd | 09:11 |
| SytheZN | *process | 09:11 |
| helicopter88 | and? | 09:12 |
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| SytheZN | ###'ing network | 09:13 |
| SytheZN | Apparentley there's a tool called makecharset that creates the bin file on build to speed up the text entry procedd | 09:13 |
| SytheZN | *process | 09:13 |
| helicopter88 | yeah,i've read this,but,use that tool.. | 09:13 |
| SytheZN | Yeah well, prob is I don't have a pc atm | 09:14 |
| helicopter88 | i have ubuntu,if it doesn't take 2-3h,i can try | 09:14 |
| SytheZN | I'll work on it when I get into the office, but thanks :) | 09:16 |
| helicopter88 | I'm fighting with make,so i have time now to build everything | 09:16 |
| SytheZN | Ta | 09:17 |
| SytheZN | Bbl.. green lantern's calling | 09:17 |
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| stinebd | the tool to make a .kcm.bin is kcm | 10:47 |
| stinebd | it ends up in the host binaries in the build tree | 10:48 |
| stinebd | there are also makefile rules to generate a .kcm.bin from a source .kcm | 10:48 |
| stinebd | hope whoever that was reads logs | 10:48 |
| rpierce99 | xdandroid later tell SytheZN read the logs for 11/6 9:45AM CST for stinebd's instructions on creating a .kcm.bin | 10:49 |
| xdandroid | rpierce99: The operation succeeded. | 10:49 |
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| msaraiva | Hi. Any kernel/android experts around? | 11:26 |
| phh | here ? god no | 11:27 |
| rpierce99 | lol | 11:27 |
| msaraiva | Ok. | 11:29 |
| msaraiva | :) | 11:29 |
| msaraiva | Thanks anyway. | 11:29 |
| rpierce99 | why don't you just ask your question and see if someone can help | 11:29 |
| rpierce99 | even a non-expert can have an answer once in a while | 11:29 |
| msaraiva | It's about ICS and changes to the display subsystem. | 11:30 |
| msaraiva | I was wondering if there are any changes that prevent Gingerbread drivers from working. | 11:30 |
| msaraiva | Me and a bunch of guys are trying to "port" the Galaxy Nexus dump and are stuck with display problems. | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | msaraiva, without source | 11:47 |
| arrrghhh | it's kinda pointless. | 11:47 |
| msaraiva | Yeah, i know that. | 11:47 |
| arrrghhh | k... | 11:48 |
| msaraiva | Still, we're trying just for the sake of it. | 11:48 |
| arrrghhh | good luck | 11:48 |
| msaraiva | A little bit of ICS a few weeks earlier would be nice. :) | 11:48 |
| msaraiva | Thanks. | 11:48 |
| arrrghhh | you're going to have crazy display issues | 11:48 |
| arrrghhh | from what i hear, the gralloc has changed quite a bit. | 11:48 |
| msaraiva | That's what i was wondering. | 11:51 |
| msaraiva | We've pinned down the problem to be with gralloc. | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | you're welcome :P | 11:51 |
| msaraiva | Well, it's nice for someone with knowledge to confirm things. | 11:51 |
| msaraiva | So, indeed, thank you. | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really have much knowledge. | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | but honestly | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | those that do | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | won't really be able to do much w/o source... | 11:51 |
| phh | arrrghhh: bah it's possible | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | hence why SDK ports are junk. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | phh, then do eeeeet | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:52 |
| phh | but so fucking annoying for what 3 weeks ? | 11:52 |
| msaraiva | Well, it's not SDK per se. | 11:52 |
| phh | making it work from NG dump it will take 3 months -_-' | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | ROM dump | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | SDK | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 11:52 |
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| msaraiva | Nope. | 11:52 |
| msaraiva | Galaxy Nexus rom dump. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | i get that. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 11:52 |
| msaraiva | :) | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | but as phh said, the source will be out soon | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | supposedly when the device drops | 11:53 |
| msaraiva | I hope so. | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | which would be less than 3 weeks... | 11:53 |
| msaraiva | It's been a long time since last major source release... | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | they kept hc all to themselves... | 11:54 |
| msaraiva | Yep. Probably to keep chinese cake factories out of the loop. :P | 11:54 |
| phh | i've been told it's to keep modders out of the loop | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | like CM? lol | 11:55 |
| msaraiva | Like everyone that loves to tinker. | 11:55 |
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| msaraiva | Still, it bothers to see other devices running it just "fine". | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | what device runs ICS "fine" | 11:56 |
| msaraiva | ICS, i mean. | 11:56 |
| msaraiva | Nexus S. | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. well i guess that's expected lol | 11:56 |
| detule | arrrghhh, mgross has rhod500? | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 12:09 |
| detule | so him and wistilt2 have no issues with the mic on acoustic | 12:10 |
| detule | you me and rpierce99 with our 400s are all seeing the same mic issue | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | that's odd... but i guess not unheard of. | 12:10 |
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| arrrghhh | on a sidenote | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | i have SERIOUS issues on .39 | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get it to work long enough to really test it. | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | hm, i had no problems testing phone calls on .39 | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | didn't do much else | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | .39 + gb that is | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | it kept freaking out on me and locking up hard | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea, .39 + GB | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | i had more problems with .35 because of the USB SOD | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | i just didn't plug it into USB | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | for whatever reason, AC is fine. | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | i think mgross said if you leave it to "always on" when plugged in, no SOD. | 12:13 |
| rpierce99 | yeah no sleep = no sleep of death | 12:13 |
| stinebd | a novel concept | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:14 |
| detule | there's way too many kernels around, but i'll shoot you a .39 with the new acoustic from my tree, arrrghhh you seem to be the perfect .39 candidate as your phone hates .39 | 12:18 |
| detule | the advantage here is that prox and color leds work out of the box | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | okie | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i did miss that on NAND | 12:19 |
| detule | arrrghhh, rpierce99 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/39/39KerModPackage11-06.tar.gz <- should be status quo in terms of what works and what not for acoustic | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | okie | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't jumped to CM7 yet :P | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | so i'll give this a spin | 12:27 |
| detule | it's only a matter of time before CM7 runs on .35 / .39 | 12:28 |
| detule | on the rhod that is | 12:29 |
| detule | not sure what kind of voodoo there is in .39 but i have maybe zero failed wakes | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | acl's still stuck on .27 :P | 12:29 |
| detule | he's got .27 humming pretty nicely though | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'm actually amazed | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | no failed wakes | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't really had many SoD's | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | there have been a *few* reboots | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | which i fear are going to be nearly impossible to troubleshoot. | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | but prox works wonderfully on NAND | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if it's .35 or what, but the prox doesn't seem to work so well on SD. | 12:32 |
| detule | try it on .39 it's pretty much fault free for me... | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | i'll see with yours | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | from wistilt2's tree... it was a disaster. | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | even tried with a fresh data.img | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know why, but the font in .39's console makes me giggle | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | shoulda put it in comic sans :P | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | or better yet, wingdings so stinebd can read it. | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | that is one thing i've always loved about wistilt2's kernels | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | data comes up SO fast | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol... | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | .39 really doesn't like mah phone | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if it's the SD... | 12:46 |
| detule | still broken? | 12:46 |
| detule | that's so strange | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | it's broken in a worse way | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | it was so painfully slow | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | just opening the app drawer took minutes | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | then i swiped a few pages | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | and it hung | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | screen went black with only the notification bar | 12:47 |
| detule | damn | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | then bootani... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | very odd | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | it was just running .35 | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't change anything but the kernel... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | maybe some app was trying to do something it didn't like. | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still in shock how fast data comes up in wistilt2's kernels. | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | whatever he did to make that happen, should be patched everywhere. cuz damn. | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | maybe droidwall? | 12:49 |
| detule | perhaps, reboot to bootani doesn't quite sound like kernel issue | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | everything is just painfully slow | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | and i've let it sit... | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it needs to sit longer lol | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | i mean this is unusually slow | 12:50 |
| detule | same kernel i just booted over here, and it runs fine pretty much as soon as the desktop shows up | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | wtf... | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | newest .35 from the autobuild is fine | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't seen any of the apps on startup that need su | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | does .39 need a bigger init_offset? | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:54 |
| detule | i have it 0x00a | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm running the same poop from the thread... i made. | 12:54 |
| detule | :) | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | and i fail. hehe | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | it's getting better | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | but damn | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | seems its STILL doing the startup thing | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't on a new data.img.... poop. | 12:55 |
| detule | 'ts ok i wonder if somehow .39 is sensitive to your sd card more than other kernels | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | that's the only thing i can think | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | this SD has seen a lot | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | i think i have a sandisk around here. i hear those are some of the best and random write performance | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it's running good now | 12:57 |
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| arrrghhh | wow. that was the worst startup i've had in a long time. | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | seems its still starting up | 12:57 |
| detule | if you grab the xdaledregime.apk for .39 from that thread | 12:57 |
| detule | and verify that it's sleeping ok | 12:58 |
| detule | the crap with the clocks | 12:58 |
| detule | when that would happen, the device would not fall asleep | 12:58 |
| detule | though i doubt that's what you are seeing | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:58 |
| detule | or just echo i mean | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | seems to be working well now | 12:58 |
| detule | sys/module/htc_rhodium_led/parameters/led_regime (i think) | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | board_htcrhodium_led | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | so led_regime = 0 | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | what should that be? | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | aw fuck | 13:01 |
| detule | if you set it to "2" it will do sleep debugging | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | SOD | 13:02 |
| detule | lol your phone really hates .39 | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | prob the same as .35 | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | if i let it sit | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | wakes take foreverf | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | panel seems to take days to wake | 13:17 |
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| arrrghhh | bzo, curse you | 13:18 |
| bzo | wat? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | eh i dunno | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | just having problems | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | and blaming you cuz you just came in | 13:18 |
| bzo | well, I did put that arrrghhh detection in the kernel a while back... | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | arrrghhh! | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | i think it is a conspiracy against me. | 13:20 |
| bzo | some of the seemingly phone specific problems is really weird | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | this is slow on a whole new level | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | i mean i'm used to the RHOD's slowness | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | but damn. | 13:21 |
| phh | (when does someone put an omap4 in rhod ?) | 13:21 |
| bzo | jonpry is a expert at smd hardware prototyping | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | phh, gimmie | 13:22 |
| bzo | let's convince him | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | give up on the prypad | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | make the pryrho's | 13:22 |
| bzo | yeah, because I'm sure he'll make a fortune on that | 13:22 |
| bzo | the pryrhos that is | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | just needs a new screen | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | mebbe moar RAM/ROM | 13:23 |
| bzo | so once you swap the screen, soc and ram, what is left over? | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | the fantastic keyboard | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | and the tilt panel | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | about the only good things about the RHOD :D | 13:24 |
| bzo | maybe we should focus on transplanting that on a nexus prime | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | probably easier :P | 13:24 |
| bzo | just takes a bit of duct tape | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | what doesn't | 13:24 |
| bzo | so what is different on detule's .39 vs the regular one? | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | besides the led_regime stuff | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | was there some clocks stuff that was different too detule ? | 13:26 |
| detule | bzo, Alex's clocks vs. JB's | 13:27 |
| bzo | any noticeable differences by running Alex's? | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | they seemingly all suck for me. | 13:27 |
| detule | well when in froyo it upped my neocore score from 15.5 to + 20 | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | although these might be worse. | 13:27 |
| detule | and it wasn't outliers, consistently | 13:27 |
| bzo | wonder if Alex overclocked the gpu by default, I remember him experiementing with that | 13:28 |
| detule | is the gpu tied to PLL1? | 13:28 |
| bzo | probably, not sure though. Most thing are related to pll1 | 13:29 |
| bzo | pll0 tends to be for the a9, and pll2 is for the top clock on the cpu | 13:29 |
| bzo | is emwe using Alex's clocks as well on .35? | 13:31 |
| detule | yes | 13:32 |
| bzo | detule, I suppose we ought to convince WisTilt2 to merge your changes in then | 13:32 |
| detule | that would be nice | 13:33 |
| bzo | I would love to see us converge down to just a couple of kernels again | 13:34 |
| bzo | I think we are at 5 or more now :/ | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea, there's people doing a lot of testing things | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | starfox had some changes in his that really pepped things up too | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | off the top of my head i have no clue exactly which ones helped from his test kernel | 13:36 |
| bzo | improved speed? | 13:36 |
| bzo | and what kernel is he branched off? | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | .27 | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | mainline | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | he also did some crazy things like backported ext4 to .27 | 13:37 |
| bzo | so is the main problem with .39 vs .27 the slowdown? | 13:39 |
| bzo | and I guess the cam and bt are not completely working yet? | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | seemingly | 13:39 |
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| bzo | I'm going to try using .39 for a while then | 13:41 |
| bzo | is the latest on autobuild? | 13:41 |
| detule | bzo, i am curious if you experience this slowdown as well | 13:41 |
| detule | bzo, with 39 you will likely not get any sound unless you are new_acoustic enabled | 13:42 |
| detule | i can send you the libs if you want to mount them | 13:42 |
| bzo | that would be great | 13:43 |
| detule | bzo, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/acoustic_libs/new_acoustic_stock.tar.gz | 13:48 |
| detule | a kernel from my tree: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/39/39KerModPackage11-06.tar.gz | 13:48 |
| bzo | thx! | 13:49 |
| bzo | is bind mounting the libs sufficient? | 13:49 |
| detule | it is | 13:51 |
| bzo | do I need to mount the csv files as well? | 13:56 |
| detule | all .csv files to the root of the sdcard | 13:58 |
| bzo | it reads them directly from there? | 13:58 |
| bzo | not sys/etc? | 13:58 |
| detule | no the new acoustic libs read them from /sdcard/* | 13:59 |
| bzo | k | 13:59 |
| bzo | does it expect the files: AudioFilterTable.csv, AudioPara3.csv and AudioPreProcessTable.csv? | 14:01 |
| detule | hm it expects a few files don't know which off the top of my head | 14:03 |
| detule | i have maybe 6 .csv files | 14:03 |
| detule | all copied straight from /Windows in winmo | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | bzo, if you wish, i can send all you need | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | including emwe's latest gb build | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | with all the acoustic stuffs | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | so then we're all on the same platform | 14:04 |
| bzo | sure, was planning on checking the gb stuff next | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | it's pretty good | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | emwe's been cranking on it | 14:05 |
| bzo | detule, you on gb or froyo? | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | on .35, you HAVE to have BT on tho. | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | it's... a feature. | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure how that works on .39 | 14:05 |
| detule | BT doesn't work on .39 so no need to worry about that | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:05 |
| detule | bzo, i am interchanging between 06+ (froyo) and gb | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | bzo, incoming PM | 14:05 |
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| detule | there's the man | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | it's his fault! | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | bah, i just flashed CM7 sorry guys | 14:12 |
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| emwe | huh? :P | 14:20 |
| SytheZN | What's huh backwards? | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | what's up emwe | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | what's race car backwards | 14:20 |
| rpierce99 | rac ecar | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | boom | 14:20 |
| emwe | nada. sorting some mp3... | 14:21 |
| rpierce99 | SytheZN: did xdandroid send you a message just now | 14:21 |
| SytheZN | rpierce99: ty for the info | 14:21 |
| SytheZN | Yeah, thanx | 14:21 |
| rpierce99 | thank stinebd, just a messenger | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | SHOOT THE MESSENGER | 14:21 |
| SytheZN | Will do :D | 14:21 |
| * SytheZN whips out an AK | 14:22 | |
| * SytheZN then stands there kile bruce willis looking all awesome and stuff | 14:22 | |
| arrrghhh | mmmmhmmmm | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | kile... i'm sure. | 14:23 |
| SytheZN | oi *like even | 14:23 |
| SytheZN | Lmao :D | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | so in-call volume with speaker/earpiece is functional now emwe ? | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | or was this always a .27 issue | 14:24 |
| SytheZN | Forgive me, I'm lysdexic | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:24 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: it's was an overall kernel issue on .27/.35 with alex' acoustic snd endpoint setup. the CURRENT snd device id was moved from 256 to match the one from IDLE which apparently broke incall volume change. | 14:25 |
| SytheZN | Speaking of volumes... I get random bugs when receiving calls where I can't be heard unless I hit loudspeaker | 14:25 |
| detule | emwe, perhaps if you put IDLE as 256 as well that will fix my mic :) | 14:25 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: or perhaps it's an userland thing which is just circumenvented by changing back the CURRENT snd device id back to 256. | 14:25 |
| emwe | detule: did we ever have IDLE 256 some point in time? | 14:26 |
| emwe | but my mic is fine :P | 14:26 |
| detule | and you have a rhod400 | 14:27 |
| emwe | apart from some sponatenous SODs. | 14:27 |
| detule | so the only other thing i can think of is those MUTE calls on the RIL side | 14:27 |
| arrrghhh | some CDMA thing? | 14:27 |
| detule | there's an xml parameter send_mic_mute_to* that would supposedly force the mic mute calls that are currently routed through the RIL to be routed through the acoustic libraries | 14:28 |
| detule | yeah i am not sure if those MUTE calls appear in gsm radio logs | 14:28 |
| emwe | ah btw.. as you mention... mic mute doesn't work :P | 14:29 |
| emwe | and you meant this: <bool name="send_mic_mute_to_AudioManager">false</bool> ? | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | this seems to be a new issue as well | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't remember any incoming call issues with the mic | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | on acoustic | 14:29 |
| SytheZN | I'm on a raph btw | 14:30 |
| detule | right, this would entail small changes to the acoustic libs | 14:30 |
| SytheZN | What can I do to help? | 14:30 |
| emwe | detule: confused... that phone ui button in the middle says "sound off" literally for me... what is it supposed to do? disable mic or disable earpiece/speaker sounds? | 14:30 |
| detule | i thought there was a mute button somewhere on the phone ui | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | there is | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | it's the middle button | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | on the bottom | 14:31 |
| * raymonddull wonders if he should keep his mouth shut about a bug | 14:31 | |
| detule | must be some kind of a german dialer translation thing | 14:31 |
| detule | :) | 14:31 |
| detule | it should be muting | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, some native android bug? | 14:31 |
| detule | those calls are currently routed through the RIL | 14:31 |
| detule | (i think they work over here btw) | 14:31 |
| raymonddull | yeah,having to toggle speakerphone on and back off for sound to work was a major bug that affected most of the galaxy s series for the first year of having aosp roms | 14:32 |
| emwe | detule: it says "Ton aus" ... so literally "Sound off" which is kinda stupid translation. | 14:32 |
| raymonddull | and still does kind of | 14:32 |
| emwe | detule: would need to retest if that is actually broken or not. | 14:32 |
| detule | emwe, if you change that xml value you need to comment this block https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_msm7k/blobs/e5f7c1bebcfd0d6d0af9ae576de282a0d0a53b4d/libaudio_wince/AudioHardware.cpp#line763 | 14:32 |
| SytheZN | My mic doesn't work unless speakerphone's on... | 14:33 |
| SytheZN | When I switch it back off again it stops again | 14:33 |
| raymonddull | hmm | 14:34 |
| raymonddull | on those you had to turn it on and back off and it worked | 14:34 |
| raymonddull | you could hear them,but they couldn't hear you until you did that | 14:34 |
| raymonddull | it was like the mic was muted | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, you're talking about a different build too | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | most of us are testing on the new acoustic code | 14:35 |
| SytheZN | I am? | 14:35 |
| emwe | detule: well, do we need it toggled/switched in case it works fine for us? | 14:35 |
| arrrghhh | yes, see above ^^ | 14:35 |
| SytheZN | I updated to the latest builds last neght | 14:36 |
| SytheZN | *night | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | gb+.35? | 14:36 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: then it's a driver/kernel bug then, no? detule? | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, is the acoustic lib stuff in the repo? | 14:36 |
| detule | emwe, i have no idea i've been racking my brain with the mic issue all weekend and I am grabbing for straws here | 14:36 |
| SytheZN | 20111019 if I'm not mistaken | 14:36 |
| emwe | detule: if you can confirm it working, we can toggle it. i still need to test actually. | 14:37 |
| detule | emwe, both arrrghhh and rpierce99 see it on rhod400 | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, are you building? | 14:37 |
| SytheZN | Nah, I downloaded from the nightly build service | 14:37 |
| emwe | detule: on .35 from arrrghhh, ok, rpierce99 on which kernel? | 14:37 |
| detule | both | 14:37 |
| emwe | ok | 14:37 |
| emwe | seems i need to provide a newer build then :) | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:38 |
| detule | if i could only build gb... | 14:38 |
| SytheZN | I just got my pc back tho... | 14:38 |
| detule | mute button works fine here btw | 14:38 |
| detule | i just checked so those RIL calls are obeyed nicely | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | nightly build service? lol | 14:39 |
| emwe | and what was broken again? incall mic defunct until speaker toggled? | 14:40 |
| emwe | too much info. | 14:40 |
| emwe | sorry guys... | 14:40 |
| SytheZN | yeah... http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ | 14:40 |
| detule | incoming calls only happens mostly when phone in silent, however i've had it happen a few times when phone not in silent too | 14:40 |
| detule | i am not sure if it's a kernel driver btw, i built a kernel with JB's dump/debugging functions, and dumped the memory at the mic_offset | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | SytheZN, that's just the rootfs -_- | 14:41 |
| detule | it's the same both when it's working and not working yet it should..... | 14:41 |
| SytheZN | Although I guess I'm still using FRX07 | 14:41 |
| SytheZN | Ah lol | 14:41 |
| detule | i guess it could be some sort of an amp issue, i don't understand the audio hardware at_all | 14:42 |
| * SytheZN install ubuntu as we speak | 14:42 | |
| emwe | detule: i haven#t stepped through all of it either... | 14:42 |
| * SytheZN revels in his own awesomeness | 14:48 | |
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| bzo | doh, user.conf still isn't working in .39 is it? | 15:00 |
| detule | that's actually a good question, i've been pushing all the libs lately | 15:03 |
| bzo | yeah, looks like it never got fixed | 15:04 |
| detule | not sure why that wouldn't get processed -> what the kernel would have with processing the conf file | 15:04 |
| detule | perhaps it errors out somewhere early | 15:04 |
| bzo | haven't noticed any pauses yet | 15:05 |
| bzo | how often does it happen? | 15:05 |
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| detule | it doesn't for me, at least not since i brought alex's clocks over | 15:14 |
| bzo | I'm running yours, so maybe that is why | 15:15 |
| bzo | hmm, seeing the slowdown now | 15:33 |
| SytheZN | Now for the question which's been asked a million times and more... | 15:56 |
| SytheZN | Where do I begin? | 15:57 |
| SytheZN | I mean, I've worked with linux for years, but I haven't really done any dev work on it | 15:59 |
| SytheZN | Do I start with a git repo? And if so, where? | 16:00 |
| * SytheZN feels all n00by and stuff | 16:02 | |
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| arrrghhh | SytheZN, the wiki has several pages on getting/building the system image | 16:57 |
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| arrrghhh | oh well | 16:59 |
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| arrrghhh | SytheZN, the wiki has several pages on getting/building the system image | 17:01 |
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| SytheZN | Ta, I'll take a look... | 17:01 |
| * SytheZN generally prefers the human interaction part of learning | 17:02 | |
| SytheZN | :-P | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 17:02 |
| SytheZN | On a more random note, what's with the temperature increase when charging? | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | stuff gets warm when being charged? | 17:15 |
| SytheZN | And the clock drift?... | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | FFS | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | read the FAQ | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | clock drift --> clocksync | 17:15 |
| SytheZN | Lol oki | 17:17 |
| SytheZN | The q with charging is more along the lines of the major difference between charging in wm vs android | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | wm was made for the phone | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | android isn't | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | there's probably still a couple of bugs left in Android... especially since there's basically 0 developers actively working on the RAPH | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | most of the big breakthrus happened on the RHOD... | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Yeah I know... but why should that affect the charging? | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | power management? | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Lol no prob | 17:19 |
| SytheZN | Ah... i'd figured power management was more to do with the other components than the charging circuitry | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | ffs | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | it's not a problem with "the charging circuitry" | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | power management on that device isn't so great | 17:20 |
| SytheZN | I realise it's not | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | i noticed when wistilt2 started tweaking with that stuff on the RHOD, it ran a fuckton cooler | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | sooooo | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:21 |
| SytheZN | I see... | 17:21 |
| SytheZN | Soz for the blonde questions | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | well i think part of the problem is no one "knows" the answer to your questions | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | i had a shitload of the same questions | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | but how can anyone know the answer for sure? | 17:22 |
| SytheZN | Ah... | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | so much of this project is based talented reverse engineering | 17:23 |
| SytheZN | True... | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | we have 0 information on how the camera hardware works | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | evidently our cam libs are just hacks | 17:23 |
| SytheZN | I just figured that charging was autonomous if you get what I'm saying | 17:24 |
| SytheZN | I see... | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's not | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | would be nice if it was completely software independent | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | and charging "just happened" 100% in hardware | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | but in reality, it doesn't. | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | not on our phones at least... | 17:25 |
| SytheZN | Yeah I got as much from before | 17:26 |
| SytheZN | So basically were building an autopilot system for an invisible airplane | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | sure? | 17:27 |
| SytheZN | Well you're watching the pilot to figure out what the wings are doing | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | enough with the metaphors | 17:28 |
| * SytheZN takes a hint | 17:28 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't see the need | 17:29 |
| SytheZN | Nah, I know the feeling of dealing with newbs | 17:29 |
| SytheZN | Please forgive me tho | 17:29 |
| SytheZN | I'd really like to learn as much as I can | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | read | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | lots | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | and lots | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | of reading | 17:31 |
| SytheZN | I do... it just drives me nuts when I'm itching to know something that just isn't being answered | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | the clock drift problem is in the FAQ | 17:32 |
| SytheZN | Yeah I know... I was just wondering if there was anything I could do besides syncing continuously | 17:32 |
| SytheZN | I'd like to understand the problem | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | well, if there was another answer | 17:33 |
| SytheZN | More than get the "answer" | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | if the problem was understood | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | it would've been fixed | 17:33 |
| SytheZN | True lol | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | someone said they seemed to notice additional drift when swiping around the screens/menus | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | now fix the problem | 17:34 |
| SytheZN | Lmao | 17:34 |
| SytheZN | I get the point | 17:34 |
| SytheZN | Lots of could be's but not too many is's | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA also seems to provide consistent NITZ updates | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | which I don't think GSM carriers do on a consistent basis. | 17:36 |
| SytheZN | I suppose id doesn't really help that I'm useng a 'dead in the water' device | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | it's not like the RHOD is that hot | 17:37 |
| SytheZN | Yeah well I,m in south africa... network operators here transmit the wrong date, let alone time | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:37 |
| SytheZN | Why do you say that? | 17:38 |
| SytheZN | I love this brick | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | i love my RHOD | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | but it's slow | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | and there's not many devs left | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | although it seems we're resurging again | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | it ebbs and flows i guess | 17:39 |
| SytheZN | As do all great things... | 17:39 |
| SytheZN | What're the rhod specs? More or less I mean | 17:40 |
| phh | msm7201 528MHz, 256MB RAM + 32MB | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much the exact same as the fucking RAPH | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | screw you HTC | 17:41 |
| SytheZN | So much the same as the raph | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | although i guess RAPH doesn't have that 'turbo mode' | 17:41 |
| SytheZN | Lmao :D | 17:41 |
| SytheZN | Turbo mode? | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | not sure | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | supposedly it makes a difference | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | and the rhod always felt faster than the raph | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | even in winmo | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | in android i don't think it's a fair comparison | 17:43 |
| SytheZN | Ah... | 17:43 |
| SytheZN | Probably just like "hyperthreading" | 17:43 |
| SytheZN | Or just a larger l2 cache | 17:43 |
| SytheZN | I'm interested to know how much of the other hardware is different... | 17:45 |
| SytheZN | I wonder if HTC would help if I asked really nice | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 17:47 |
| * SytheZN rolls his eyes | 17:47 | |
| arrrghhh | good luck with that | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | ask qualcomm too while you're at it | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | they're small mom & pop shops that really care about devices built in 2008 | 17:47 |
| phh | arrrghhh: turbo mode is RAM going from 133MHz to 166MHz | 17:47 |
| SytheZN | lmao :D | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | 133 to 166 | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | wow | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | TURBO | 17:48 |
| SytheZN | 20% | 17:48 |
| phh | overclocking RAM has greater benefits than overclocking CPU imho | 17:48 |
| SytheZN | More or less | 17:48 |
| SytheZN | Yeah well... cpu's waiting most of the time | 17:49 |
| SytheZN | That's exactly why hyperthreading "works" | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | phh, lets push it harder then | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i want snapdragon speeds outta mah RAM | 17:50 |
| phh | arrrghhh: that's what i told bzo two days ago :p | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | let's blow it up | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i know. | 17:50 |
| SytheZN | Anyways... gotta catch some half-blinks... cheers | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 17:51 |
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