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| hyc | Would love to move off of .27 already.... | 03:24 |
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| Spider | hi all | 07:37 |
| Spider | i have HTC TOUCH PRO raphael 100 | 07:37 |
| Spider | i wish to install Android on it but do not know how | 07:37 |
| Spider | can anyone help me PLS | 07:38 |
| helicopter88 | Spider: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171070 | 07:38 |
| Spider | ok i have FRX07.1 | 07:39 |
| Spider | i have copied to sd card | 07:39 |
| Spider | i have started haret.exe | 07:40 |
| Spider | but after asking for defaul script phone sops responding | 07:40 |
| helicopter88 | You haven't done all the steps. | 07:41 |
| helicopter88 | read again that thread. | 07:41 |
| Spider | i shall | 07:43 |
| Spider | thank You for advice | 07:43 |
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| Spider | it repeats some worker_thread+0x0/0x114 | 08:09 |
| Spider | why is that? | 08:09 |
| Spider | what shall i do now? | 08:09 |
| Spider | SOS :( | 08:12 |
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| arrrghhh | Spider, did you follow the steps? | 08:56 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, did you see hyc chimed in for a quick second... heh | 09:03 |
| hyc | yeah, only to whine, not to do anything useful | 09:04 |
| mgross029 | Hey hyc was listening... ur lurking... :p | 09:05 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you can always help with .35 :D | 09:05 |
| arrrghhh | i saw your pics from LDAPcon, very cool. | 09:05 |
| hyc | yeah, was a good conference | 09:05 |
| arrrghhh | i love heidelberg | 09:05 |
| hyc | Yeah, very cool town. Walked all around the day before, climbed one of the mountains overlooking the town | 09:06 |
| hyc | visited the castle, great stuff | 09:06 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 09:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea i visited the castle a few years ago | 09:07 |
| mgross029 | Cool... Sounds like a great time | 09:07 |
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| hyc | definitely. Loved the food, love the beer, met some pretty girls along the way, hit all the high points :D | 09:08 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 09:08 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 09:08 |
| hyc | What's the story with .39? Shouldn't we be looking further ahead than .35 by now? | 09:08 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 09:08 |
| hyc | 3.0.2 is due soon... | 09:08 |
| arrrghhh | no one really has put work into it. wistilt2 is MIA and jonpry has moved on. | 09:09 |
| hyc | moved on? other phones? | 09:09 |
| arrrghhh | alex said 3.0.1 worked pretty well on his kovs... i don't know. | 09:09 |
| arrrghhh | other devices. | 09:09 |
| hyc | ah well | 09:09 |
| arrrghhh | touchpad is his thing now. | 09:09 |
| hyc | ugh | 09:09 |
| arrrghhh | although jonpry was always all over. that dude's an animal. | 09:09 |
| hyc | heh | 09:09 |
| hyc | well, mebbe will have to pull down Alex's repo and see what fits where | 09:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 09:10 |
| hyc | I keep hearing good stuff about ext4, would like to give it a spin | 09:10 |
| mgross029 | emwe has been making some nice strides with .35 | 09:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea, seems .35 will be a good base if anything | 09:11 |
| hyc | cool | 09:11 |
| arrrghhh | just to clean up the abomination that is .27 lol | 09:11 |
| hyc | yeah, no kidding | 09:11 |
| mgross029 | lol | 09:11 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, something wierd I found yesterday. If I have the cdma build.prop mods in for gb and enable wifi the system flakes out and goes to bootani | 09:13 |
| arrrghhh | your results are all tainted now. | 09:13 |
| mgross029 | which ones... :p | 09:13 |
| mgross029 | cdma build.prop or wifi? | 09:13 |
| arrrghhh | all. your. results. | 09:14 |
| mgross029 | your tainted | 09:14 |
| mgross029 | s/your/you're | 09:15 |
| arrrghhh | mmmmhmmmm | 09:15 |
| detule | .39 is nice but there's something busted with the clocks that's been hard to track down for me | 09:16 |
| arrrghhh | oh right detule's still here. lol | 09:16 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 09:16 |
| detule | just realized that my sdcard is not mounting properly in android | 09:17 |
| detule | and my phone is not suspending properly because of this.....i wonder how long this has been happening, and who disabled LED sleep debugging ? | 09:17 |
| detule | oh wait... | 09:17 |
| detule | here's hoping hptool saves the day | 09:18 |
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| mgross029 | If we could eliminate the need for gb to have the build.prop poop then that would probably help | 09:24 |
| hyc | what's messed in build.prop? | 09:25 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029 is | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | he's all messed up in it... | 09:26 |
| hyc | heh | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno man. there's some weird problem where the phone app FC's like crazy on any phone calls in/out. | 09:26 |
| mgross029 | In gb we get FC when a call is made on cdma devices unless we change the telephony setting in build.prop to 4 CDMA w/EVDO from 0 WCDMA | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029 thinks he narrowed it down to some build.prop settings. seems to be CDMA-only. | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, did you ever see what was up with that menu? | 09:27 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't get why we don't get the menu anymore... | 09:27 |
| mgross029 | No haven't figured that out, but I think as you said it had to due with fake gsm we were using on the alpha build... IIRC | 09:28 |
| mgross029 | Also, this is something that has to due with userland because I can copy a working data.img to a new gb build without a modified build.prop and I don't get the FC's there | 09:29 |
| mgross029 | So build.prop initially writes these settings to data.img when first created | 09:29 |
| arrrghhh | that's true | 09:30 |
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| mgross029 | heh | 09:31 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 09:32 |
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| Spider | works well now | 09:40 |
| Spider | but i wish i have dual boot | 09:40 |
| detule | you need a genie to make wishes come true | 09:41 |
| detule | or arrrghhh ... | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | or gen.y | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792 | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | Spider, "dual-boot" app ^^ | 09:42 |
| Spider | yes | 09:43 |
| Spider | ty | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | np[ | 09:45 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you bastage :P | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | 'actual' AP == "infrastructure mode" | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | i guess if i was throwing around terms like ad hoc mode, i should've used that term as well :P | 09:50 |
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| Tandyman100 | Ice Cream Sandwich is out! Get porting! :P | 10:19 |
| Tandyman100 | I highly doubt that'll work on any of our (W)VGA devices, though.. | 10:20 |
| Tandyman100 | says the naitive resolution is 1280x720 | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | the code's not. | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure it can scale to any res. | 10:22 |
| mgross029 | pan & scan :p | 10:22 |
| Tandyman100 | Heh, then there's the fact the phones it was designed to run on are all 1.2GHz (ish) dual-cores | 10:24 |
| Tandyman100 | I dunno how well it'll do on a 512MHz MSM device, or even overclocked to 720-ish | 10:24 |
| Tandyman100 | It'll probably run great on an HD2, though (lucky bastards) | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | no point in speculating about that | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | because it's just speculation | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | everyone said gb would need a 1ghz proc, they were wrong. | 10:25 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, good point. | 10:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I forget; is ICS open-source or not? | 10:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I know Honeycomb wasn't, but I think they were going to go back to opensourcing Android with 4.0 | 10:27 |
| helicopter88 | It's going to be open-sourced | 10:27 |
| helicopter88 | once Galaxy Nexus will be out | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | FFS | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, facepalm. | 10:28 |
| helicopter88 | (That's what i've found searching) | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | the only reason (they say) they held HC source was because of ICS. | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | assuming that's true, we'll see source for ICS. who knows when tho. | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, is that SDK | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | or full source.. | 10:29 |
| helicopter88 | No,sdk is already out | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | orly? | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 10:29 |
| helicopter88 | yeah | 10:29 |
| helicopter88 | there have been already some trials to port | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:29 |
| helicopter88 | I know it boots on g2 | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | everyone always does with the SDK | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | but it always turns into shitty ports (obviously) | 10:29 |
| Tandyman100 | Cool | 10:30 |
| Tandyman100 | It boots on the G2? Already? | 10:30 |
| helicopter88 | yes | 10:30 |
| helicopter88 | ofc,sdk port = crap | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:31 |
| helicopter88 | and there have been system's apps leaked | 10:32 |
| helicopter88 | *dumped | 10:32 |
| detule | looks like they adopted some of the multitasking business from webos | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | detule, it'll be schweet | 10:34 |
| Tandyman100 | heh, yeah. | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | since it's EVERYWHERE | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | not just in the task manager | 10:34 |
| Tandyman100 | Honestly, the whole look kinda reminds me of WP7. I dunno why. | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, the tiles | 10:34 |
| Tandyman100 | But this looks like the mobile OS to end ALL mobile OSes | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | the tiles reminded me of WP7 | 10:34 |
| detule | this flicking windows awau | 10:34 |
| detule | flicking notifications away | 10:34 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh: I think it's more the minimalism and the font they used | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | looks awesome | 10:34 |
| detule | some of the things i like the most about webos | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yea, that too | 10:35 |
| Tandyman100 | You *like* things about webos? (joking) | 10:35 |
| detule | webos is ridiculously functional | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | webos seems like a nice-looking polished experience... | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | just nothing for it | 10:35 |
| helicopter88 | even the ics's backgrounds are nice | 10:35 |
| detule | plus a pretty awesome development community....them webos-internal folks got their heads screwed on straight | 10:35 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm kicking myself for not grabbing a TouchPad when they were 99$ | 10:36 |
| Tandyman100 | they've shot up back to the $300 range, now. | 10:36 |
| Tandyman100 | And of course, Android is almost perfect on them. | 10:36 |
| Tandyman100 | (I wonder if ICS will be ported to the touchpad? | 10:36 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 10:37 |
| detule | it's on the cm to-do list (from what i've heard) | 10:37 |
| helicopter88 | I think that there will be port for all the gb devices,but i don't know how will it go with physical hw buttons.. | 10:38 |
| Tandyman100 | Wow, the touchpad is looking sexier and sexier... with ICS, that thing will be the device of the decade. | 10:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that decision was kinda odd | 10:38 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, that's an overstatement. | 10:38 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm hoping the Kindle Fire will push the prices back down on those things. I'm seriously jelly right now | 10:39 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, I'm good at overstating things :P | 10:39 |
| detule | if it was that hot hp wouldn't have dropped it | 10:39 |
| detule | though, their decision making process seems to be far from flawless | 10:39 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, I just figured out what needs to be created in data.img which is not getting created by default. | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea, hp does make odd decisions | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, stay on topic here. | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol what? | 10:40 |
| mgross029 | lol | 10:40 |
| mgross029 | com.android.phone_preferences.xml | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | that's crazy talk | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | what gets pushed tho? | 10:41 |
| mgross029 | Not much. Just a couple of settings to tell it is cdma | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 10:41 |
| Tandyman100 | <detule> if it was that hot hp wouldn't have dropped it | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get why this is cropping up now | 10:41 |
| Tandyman100 | well it's not that hot with webos, but put ICS on it and it's a killer tablet | 10:42 |
| mgross029 | I pulled the one from froyo and then pulled the one from a working gb and they are identical | 10:42 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, glad you can make that judgement from never using it :rolleyes: | 10:42 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, wth... | 10:42 |
| mgross029 | http://pastebin.com/JcRgWtXD | 10:43 |
| detule | Tandyman100, it has its drawbacks | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | so is there something in GB that we're not pushing on first boot that we are in FroYo? | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, i guess the real question is, where does this get pushed from... | 10:43 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, that is what I am guessing | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:44 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should get off of OMGB to help on HaRET again :P | 10:44 |
| mgross029 | Which ever area creates the /data/data/shared_prefs fs | 10:44 |
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| emwe | meep | 10:45 |
| mgross029 | *correction /data/data/com.android.phone/shared_prefs | 10:45 |
| mgross029 | Hey emwe | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, yo | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | maybe you can help me be not so retarded. maybe. | 10:46 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh: Except I have used the TouchPad... | 10:46 |
| Tandyman100 | I've used several | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 10:46 |
| Tandyman100 | One of my friends bought like six of them for her and her family, I got to use one for a while with WebOS. | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really care. | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | cool... | 10:47 |
| emwe | what can i do for you? | 10:47 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, how do the .kl and .kcm's work exactly? i saw on topa all you replace is the qwerty.kl file | 10:47 |
| arrrghhh | i tried to do that for your german friend lodtank, but it didn't work _at all_... | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | there's also this raph_navi_pad file | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | and some other microp file | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | microp-keypad.kcm.bin microp-keypad.kl raph_navi_pad.kl | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | are all in the 'default' folder. should i be naming the file something else, like these...? | 10:49 |
| emwe | one sec. need to get into that... | 10:49 |
| emwe | for topa it was enough to provide the qwerty.kl with the specific mappings | 10:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | same with blac | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | but diam... seemingly not. | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i can't exactly follow the logic here, obviously i'm missing something :P | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | i was thinking about just booting my raph800 and seeing what i could break | 10:52 |
| emwe | what is this... echo 1024 > /dbgfs/micropklt_dbg/sleep_leds <<< can this be the cause for the initially erratic raph/diam charge led behaviour? | 10:52 |
| arrrghhh | since i think his diam200 is the same layout as raph300 | 10:52 |
| arrrghhh | echo 1024? | 10:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:52 |
| emwe | the bit | 10:52 |
| emwe | bits... | 10:53 |
| emwe | anyway... | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | just seems high | 10:53 |
| emwe | 0b1000000100100 | 10:53 |
| emwe | would need to lookup. later ... haha. | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | no worries | 10:53 |
| detule | lol | 10:54 |
| emwe | ok, back to keyb. it initally copies everything from default. and if there is a physkeyboard value or init-internal $KBD it copies everything (over) the default ones | 10:54 |
| emwe | i'd just go create a diam200 folder, add a modded qwerty.kl and be done. | 10:54 |
| detule | that's just too funny, after spending so long to hunt down that initial behavior | 10:54 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, that's what i did | 10:55 |
| detule | and by funny i mean sad | 10:55 |
| emwe | detule: that was broken, right? ;) | 10:55 |
| arrrghhh | but lodtank said it didn't work... | 10:55 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's possible he didn't do the startup.txt entry correctly... | 10:55 |
| detule | i fixed it kind of by forcing it to clear that bit on start up....i always wondered why i had to clear it initially, as if something was forcing it to breathe | 10:55 |
| detule | now we know what | 10:55 |
| emwe | now... how do these filenames come into play arrrghhh? i think there was something. but i don't remember anymore. | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, just trying to fix the button layout for diam200 | 10:56 |
| emwe | detule: sounds like it can go away from init, no? | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | and probably raph300 | 10:56 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: yes, but i am asking myself how userland selects the *.kl file. i know for topa it is qwerty.kl. but how do these others get attracted? i figured once, and immedeately forgot. | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know either | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | hence why i'm asking :P | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | i should boot mah raph and see what's in that folder | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | /system/usr/keymaps or whatever | 10:57 |
| helicopter88 | I guess userland loads microp-keymap.kl and kcm.bin | 10:57 |
| detule | emwe, i have no idea, it's probably safe to remove whatever bits correspond to the led mask 0x1f00, plus that action bit that you added | 10:58 |
| helicopter88 | and qwerty/azerty/qwerz.kl | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, now you're making it more confusing. | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | i can't modify bin's | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | and qwerz.kl? lol | 10:58 |
| helicopter88 | i found once that if the names weren't like microp-keymap/pad it won't load | 10:58 |
| * helicopter88 has short memory | 10:58 | |
| arrrghhh | i think i'll try to break it on mah raph | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | assuming i can, that should fix it for diam200/raph300 | 10:58 |
| emwe | detule: how about dropping that echo entirely? we could make sure it's reset to "leds off" like for topa/rhod on boot in microp-klt | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | i need to figure out how to commit all of this too | 10:59 |
| helicopter88 | arrrghhh,if i had a rootfs and a system with usr/keymap folder full,would help you | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, no biggie | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | it's not even for me... | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | g2g meeting | 10:59 |
| helicopter88 | cya | 10:59 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: if you got a local clone, setup a local branch for testing, i can hand over my build-rootfs scrupt. | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's crazy talk em | 11:00 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, | 11:00 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 11:00 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 11:00 |
| emwe | ok | 11:00 |
| detule | emwe, that echo sets the sleep led behavior,not necessarily initial | 11:00 |
| emwe | detule: yeah, and i'd like it to be gone from there. and in microp-klt.c we can set them to be all of on probe so that everything shuts off when some are still lit from when in wince | 11:01 |
| detule | ok 1024 = 0x400, microp-klt.h: MICROP_KLT_SYSLED_BREATHE 0x400 | 11:03 |
| detule | so it's the breathe mask | 11:03 |
| detule | it's not setting anything else | 11:03 |
| detule | my guess it's safe to remove | 11:03 |
| emwe | ok, super. | 11:04 |
| emwe | thx for lookup up the bit | 11:04 |
| emwe | just grepping the xdandroid tree where those *.kl filenames chime in. i overlook something i think. | 11:04 |
| detule | nice catch on finding that in init, i would never have even thought about looking there | 11:05 |
| detule | though i did search the entire kernel tree for it | 11:06 |
| emwe | saw it once, forgot. was just looking at the *.kl logic and it was right above. so thx arrrghhh :) | 11:07 |
| emwe | detule: ever stumbled over some headset detection stuff in the HAL libraries? ... wait. didn't i ask this once? | 11:09 |
| detule | emwe, that's windows? | 11:11 |
| detule | i know less than zero about *.dll | 11:12 |
| emwe | detule: now i might call them wrong, but all userland libraries interacting with kernel are hardware abstraction layer libraries imho. liblights, libsensors and so on | 11:12 |
| emwe | there's the wifi wrapper and i think there must be stomething which detects h2w headset. | 11:13 |
| emwe | just reading a value from a sysfs entry. i know h2w headset driver provides it. | 11:13 |
| detule | oh google failed me, first thing that came up was HAL.dll ... | 11:14 |
| emwe | heh, just thought to ask if you had stumbled over something... | 11:15 |
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| Spider | i have downloaded Gen.Y DualBOOT v1.0.6.0-EXT for raphaer 100 | 11:49 |
| Spider | android is on sd | 11:49 |
| Spider | where shall i copy vha files | 11:49 |
| Spider | vga? | 11:50 |
| Spider | to make dual boot? | 11:50 |
| Spider | ?????? | 11:51 |
| Spider | anyone? | 11:51 |
| Spider | helicopter88? | 11:51 |
| helicopter88 | Raph is vga | 11:52 |
| Spider | ok but where to copy those files | 11:52 |
| helicopter88 | what files,is a cab | 11:52 |
| helicopter88 | you must install it | 11:53 |
| Spider | ok | 11:53 |
| Spider | thanks a looooooooooooot | 11:59 |
| helicopter88 | You're welcome.. | 11:59 |
| helicopter88 | Do you have haret in root of sdcard? | 11:59 |
| Spider | yes i do | 12:00 |
| Spider | have | 12:00 |
| Spider | why? | 12:00 |
| helicopter88 | just asking | 12:00 |
| Spider | :) | 12:01 |
| helicopter88 | because if you don't,you would have to edit some things | 12:01 |
| emwe | detule: regarding headset, it's HeadsetObserver.java. just need to figure why it doesn't detect the switch... perhaps uevent name doesn't match. | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | Spider, FYI, Gen.Y is a WinMo app. | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | we don't really help with WinMo applications here... i merely suggested it as a solution to your problem. | 12:10 |
| * arrrghhh slaps helicopter88 | 12:10 | |
| * helicopter88 asks sorry to arrrghhh | 12:10 | |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't want to set that precedent. | 12:11 |
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| stinebd | precedent | 12:16 |
| stinebd | we're not the supreme court you know | 12:16 |
| stinebd | or are we?????///shift+/ | 12:17 |
| helicopter88 | lol | 12:18 |
| helicopter88 | I don't want to get sued or in jail just because i've answered a win mo question | 12:19 |
| stinebd | hey, it's not our fault you violated the 167th amendment | 12:19 |
| helicopter88 | in u.s. laws? | 12:20 |
| stinebd | mexican | 12:21 |
| helicopter88 | I'm from italy,so them don't matter here :) | 12:21 |
| helicopter88 | *don't apply | 12:21 |
| stinebd | mexico laws apply everywhere | 12:22 |
| helicopter88 | btw,stinebd,thanks for the omapzoom tip,it worked :) | 12:22 |
| stinebd | i know it worked | 12:22 |
| stinebd | because i'm the man | 12:22 |
| helicopter88 | everything you make works | 12:23 |
| stinebd | uh yeah sure | 12:23 |
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| helicopter88 | stinebd,will you make ICS0A ? | 12:28 |
| helicopter88 | or ICX0A? | 12:28 |
| stinebd | IRX00A | 12:28 |
| stinebd | and most likely no\ | 12:29 |
| helicopter88 | :( | 12:29 |
| stinebd | it should require opengles 2.0 | 12:29 |
| stinebd | most of the ui is composited | 12:29 |
| helicopter88 | oh,if it requires og 2.0 we're fuc**d | 12:29 |
| helicopter88 | now that i'm making you questions,what's error 41 when making? | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | *making a build | 12:30 |
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| emwe | stinebd: hi. you know anything about headset icon hide/show option in userland? | 12:34 |
| stinebd | option? | 12:34 |
| stinebd | like a user option? | 12:34 |
| emwe | stinebd: a framework option to show it or not when hs is plugged | 12:34 |
| stinebd | i don't think there is an option | 12:35 |
| emwe | the switch gets reported to HeadsetObserver just fine. | 12:35 |
| stinebd | i can grep the resources when i get home but i don't recall ever seeing it | 12:35 |
| emwe | hm. you assume every oem modded userland to show an icon if hs is plugged? | 12:35 |
| emwe | i know the htc tattoo and desirez/g2 show it. | 12:35 |
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| arrrghhh | now HTC releases a CDMA/GSM worldphone. | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | asshats. | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | **that runs Android | 12:45 |
| emwe | stinebd: i see cyano has patches. | 12:47 |
| stinebd | sorry, i'm at work right now so i'm in and out | 12:48 |
| stinebd | emwe: can you link me? i got an incognito window open at the moment so i'm safe | 12:50 |
| emwe | stinebd: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/5ee8c74b56b353026d881d549975b4290a22bf7b (white icons) and icon update to grey https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/dc2c8af52ec0ead49a5b3f0201e5bf4773e47db7 | 12:51 |
| emwe | stinebd: the former being the patch not touching the icons itself. they are white. (also in our tree). 2nd updates them to ginger style. | 12:51 |
| stinebd | so it is indeed a frameworks modification that each vendor does, huh? | 12:52 |
| emwe | feels strange. but apparently is the case. | 12:53 |
| emwe | same goes for caps/fn everybody has to replicate | 12:53 |
| stinebd | yeah but that's a much less common case | 12:53 |
| emwe | agreed. | 12:54 |
| stinebd | with the headset, though it's what i expected, is surprising that android doesn't have that | 12:54 |
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| emwe | stinebd: just testing out the patches. likely going to pull the 2nd one too as the icons will fit then the others. | 12:55 |
| emwe | stinebd: regarding the *.kl files... how does userland determine to use the microp-keypad.kl one? | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 12:55 |
| emwe | stinebd: does it scan input device name or some such? | 12:55 |
| stinebd | exactly | 12:55 |
| stinebd | as reported by the kernel driver | 12:55 |
| emwe | ah damnit. lol. | 12:55 |
| stinebd | oh crap the boss is here | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | isn't that you? :P | 12:56 |
| stinebd | wait i'm the boss | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, so can you explain to me what i'd need to change? | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | still kinda lost. | 12:56 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: so it sounds as if you have to at least copy and mod raph_navi_pad.kl | 12:57 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: mod in the sense to "flip" keycodes for the diam200. | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | but i can still put it in the diam200 directory, so it doesn't interfere with other devices? | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | that's all i was doing | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | got a little confused when i saw multiple key codes for the same function... | 12:58 |
| emwe | now wtf is there a shitload of keys mapped to the same? | 12:58 |
| emwe | yeah.. dooh... | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | but i think rpierce99 was right, it's for multiple devices | 12:58 |
| emwe | now happy figuring for the diam200 | 12:58 |
| emwe | and why aren't these document in the kl... | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:59 |
| stinebd | that crap is a mess | 13:04 |
| stinebd | don't even try to comprehend it | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that's my problem | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | i'm attempting to comprehend :P | 13:05 |
| stinebd | yeah don't comprehend, just modify until it works | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | well i didn't want to modify without basic comprehension, but hey. | 13:06 |
| emwe | stinebd: can you comment on this from abel? https://github.com/acl/device_htc_rhodium/commit/f6d1dfa87a78b77226dca49af552ad454134ffb1 we have it, he dropped it. you know of any implications? | 13:08 |
| emwe | (we imported it from froyo according to history) | 13:08 |
| * stinebd shrugs | 13:08 | |
| stinebd | probably nothing | 13:08 |
| emwe | ok. | 13:09 |
| emwe | another thing... should we automatically start in autobacklight mode on first boot? | 13:09 |
| emwe | just spotted some stuff in his device tree. | 13:09 |
| stinebd | probably not, it has a history of bugging on us | 13:10 |
| stinebd | at least not until it's stable | 13:10 |
| stinebd | or moved out of kernel totally | 13:10 |
| emwe | don't even recall autobl issue? we still have? | 13:10 |
| stinebd | you don't recall? | 13:10 |
| emwe | well, yeah, raph had it's issues... :) | 13:11 |
| stinebd | we had all kinds of issues with kernel changing and userland not keeping up | 13:11 |
| stinebd | right | 13:11 |
| emwe | i use auto on raph, topa and rhod without issue | 13:11 |
| emwe | we are at crossroads now regarding autobl anyway... disable autobl by sensor controll completely and ignore what userland instructs from autobl tables or stay as is. | 13:11 |
| stinebd | and we still have plans to move light sensor into the kernel right? | 13:12 |
| stinebd | err | 13:12 |
| stinebd | out of kernel | 13:12 |
| emwe | yes, then the question is if we should even dare to enable the automatic mode we have now and always rely on the brightness tables. | 13:12 |
| emwe | but for this, the ls reporting from kernel must be working for all devices. | 13:13 |
| emwe | and for those devices missing a LS (we have a device missing that?) we need to report max lumen as a fake. | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, i need you | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, all devices in our 'stable' have ls..? 'cept maybe c1 | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | x1* | 13:14 |
| emwe | would need to ask alex. | 13:15 |
| emwe | damn framework res changes... trigger a full rebuild more or less. taking a bit too long here... | 13:15 |
| stinebd | yeah that's a pain | 13:16 |
| emwe | let's hope the 2nd cherry pick won't trigger this again | 13:18 |
| stinebd | why'd you do them separate? | 13:19 |
| emwe | just to see how ugly the old icons look. i am masochist. | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | can i comment things in the kl files with a hash? | 13:22 |
| stinebd | yeah | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | i don't want to remove any lines if i can avoid it. | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | cool, thanks. | 13:22 |
| mgross029_ | Can anyone tell me what creates /data/data/com.android.phone/shared_prefs/com.android.phone_preferences.xml or /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/app_parts and .telephony/shared_prefs | 13:35 |
| lodtank | hi there | 13:35 |
| lodtank | arrrghhh: what's on? | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, hey | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have another test rootfs for you | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | but i was slacking and haven't uploaded it yet lol | 13:35 |
| mgross029_ | So far I have found them missing on a fresh data.img that is getting FC messages | 13:35 |
| stinebd | oh geez, arrrghhh handing out rootfs's | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:35 |
| stinebd | this never ends well | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | hey, it did for the blackstone users | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | just never committed that 'fix' | 13:36 |
| stinebd | no it didn't | 13:36 |
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| stinebd | they still have blackstones | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | touche. | 13:36 |
| stinebd | ba-zing | 13:36 |
| mgross029 | in gb btw ^^ | 13:37 |
| lodtank | arrrghhh: well, android was nearly unusable:/ should try wether it was caused by your rootfs or it's that bad in general on my hardware :( | 13:37 |
| lodtank | popups about hanging processes all the time | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 13:38 |
| lodtank | real slow.. | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | it's a DIAM | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | of course it's slow | 13:38 |
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| arrrghhh | those things are bastard children. low RAM specs, soldered SD card... | 13:38 |
| lodtank | i know...:) | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes i wonder why i even bother | 13:39 |
| lodtank | hehe:) | 13:39 |
| lodtank | perhaps because even a slow/buggy android is better than win ce?:) | 13:39 |
| mgross029 | stinebd this is userland so maybe you could answer ^^ | 13:39 |
| lodtank | anyway, i'm on now the next few hours, ready to test some stuff | 13:39 |
| stinebd | oh god | 13:40 |
| stinebd | which diam? | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | 200 | 13:40 |
| stinebd | the lowmem one is 500 right? | 13:40 |
| lodtank | not even a real diam... a mda compact IV, t-online variant of diam, says diam200 under the battery | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | that's raph | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, AFAIK all DIAM's are "lowmem" compared to the rest of our devices. | 13:40 |
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| stinebd | ah | 13:41 |
| stinebd | i've never seen such a beast so i don't know about them | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i only know what i glean from users | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | which is mostly wrong | 13:41 |
| stinebd | iirc lowmems were about 90MB usable or something | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | something awful like that | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, pastebin your startup.txt | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | just to make sure that is correct | 13:42 |
| lodtank | wait a moment | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | np | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | ext4dev | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12691845/rootfs-20110930-10e154f_diam200.zip | 13:44 |
| lodtank | arrrghhh: http://pastebin.com/KDWqWLuA | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, looks good. grab that rootfs and put it in your andboot/FRX07.1 folder. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | extract it, rename it to rootfs... | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | er | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs.img | 13:45 |
| lodtank | ok | 13:46 |
| emwe | holy shit a huge headset icon... as huge as the freaking notification bar. | 13:46 |
| stinebd | pics or it didn't happen | 13:47 |
| stinebd | i need to see this weirdness | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:48 |
| emwe | can adb do screenshots? | 13:48 |
| stinebd | btw you guys with your qualcomms don't know how good you have it | 13:48 |
| stinebd | it took me hours and about 20 different screenshot apps to find one that works for tegra | 13:48 |
| emwe | otherwise i'd have to fire up eclipse... | 13:48 |
| stinebd | or perhaps for moto's bastardized tegra | 13:49 |
| emwe | stinebd: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/dot35/captures/2011-10-19-gingerbread-headset-icon.png | 13:52 |
| lodtank | arrrghhh: booting android... | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i want it bigger | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | and Mona looks pissed at you :P | 13:53 |
| emwe | that was a snapshot as she turned around. and she usually is not :P | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | just teasin. | 13:56 |
| emwe | now... i saw a commit @cyano which adds an option for users to disable the headset notification. oh wtf... | 13:57 |
| emwe | lol | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 13:58 |
| emwe | space waster argument. can agree. but i wan't it now. | 13:58 |
| emwe | let's see what tomorrow brings. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 13:58 |
| emwe | and btw, before you cry, that task killer widget is just there to show free mem. autokiller is off... never dared to just look for a memfree widget. | 13:59 |
| emwe | on the other hand, sometimes its usefull to kill everything off which is possible. | 14:00 |
| emwe | brb. preparing some food. | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | hah | 14:03 |
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| arrrghhh | so i'm guessing lodtank's phone is melting by now. | 14:13 |
| lodtank | was just busy playing drakensang and talking to my brother;) | 14:14 |
| lodtank | my phone is still alive;) | 14:14 |
| lodtank | so what should which key do exactly when i'm on the pure "desktop"? | 14:14 |
| lodtank | hm.. both right buttons now make my phone sleep | 14:16 |
| lodtank | both left seem also to do the same... they "tab" to the loupe in the google search bar | 14:17 |
| lodtank | and tab further to the left, to the newsticker | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | let's focus on the core button functionality | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | endcall/startcall/home/back | 14:22 |
| arrrghhh | oh and menu | 14:22 |
| lodtank | i'm talking about those:) | 14:23 |
| lodtank | menu shows menu, that's fine | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | well i broke something | 14:23 |
| arrrghhh | that's progress | 14:23 |
| lodtank | my layout is: | 14:23 |
| lodtank | start call - end call | 14:23 |
| lodtank | home - back | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:24 |
| lodtank | and menu is in the middle | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | flipped from regular devices | 14:24 |
| lodtank | end call and back both make my phone sleep | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | so start call - does nothing? | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | ok first | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | make sure the button LIGHTS before you press | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | the navipad on raph/diam is very touchy | 14:24 |
| lodtank | start call and home "tabs" to the loupe of the google search bar on the "desktop" | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | that makes no sense | 14:24 |
| arrrghhh | you must not be clicking start call or home | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | ugh... | 14:25 |
| lodtank | and then fruther to the newsticker on the desktop on the left | 14:25 |
| lodtank | what are the "desktops" called on android? | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | desktops. | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | screens? | 14:25 |
| lodtank | k | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, i call 'em desktops. | 14:25 |
| lodtank | i'm in the browser right now, no button lights, can't exit it:) | 14:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:26 |
| lodtank | any way to exit it via touchscreen? | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i should stop while i'm behind | 14:26 |
| arrrghhh | not that i know of | 14:26 |
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| lodtank | any way i can find out keycodes or something like that? | 14:31 |
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| arrrghhh | lodtank, would be nice. | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | no clue how | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | probably haretconsole. | 14:33 |
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| lodtank | haretconsole? | 14:41 |
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| arrrghhh | yes | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | i could try some other things, but i don't know if you're testing this correctly. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | and i don't know if the changes i'm making are correct | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | sooooooo yea. | 14:42 |
| emwe | stinebd: better: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/dot35/captures/2011-10-19-gingerbread-headset-icon-better.png | 14:43 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: another option would be to dump the keycode by doing a debug build... but i feel busy enough :/ | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea, don't worry about it emwe | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | unfortunately this is one user | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | there's maybe 1-2 raph300 users. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | certainly not worth a lot of time. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, i can show you the changes i made and you can try to fix it yourself perhaps... | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. i guess i could still give it a whirl on my raph | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | all i need to do is ensure the buttons are reversed lol | 14:47 |
| lodtank | hehe:) | 14:49 |
| lodtank | well, show the changes, perhaps i can work with it | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | do you have a linux box? | 14:49 |
| lodtank | i'm sitting on one right now | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | excellent | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | so take that rootfs | 14:51 |
| lodtank | i haven't compiled android myself yet.. but we'll see;) | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | mount -o loop rootfs.img /dir/to/mount | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | and in the init.etc/keymaps/diam200 | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | you can see my hackings | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i think you can ignore the qwerty.kl file | 14:52 |
| helicopter88 | pheraps you may need -t ext2 | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | that was seemingly useless. | 14:52 |
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| arrrghhh | helicopter88, no | 14:52 |
| helicopter88 | here it doesn't mount | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | at least i've never needed it... | 14:52 |
| helicopter88 | without it | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | odd. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm on ubuntu, you are too no? | 14:52 |
| lodtank | arrrghhh: ok, thx, i'll give it a try | 14:52 |
| helicopter88 | 11.04 | 14:52 |
| helicopter88 | sometimes it acts weird,but this isn't the proper channel | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 14:53 |
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| arrrghhh | helicopter88, that is weird. i'm on 10.04, but whatever. | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | lodtank, np. the file is pretty self-explanatory | 14:53 |
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| juanchi | hello people | 15:17 |
| juanchi | I Have been searching for a while for any tutorial about installing Xdandroid directly to the phone (HTC touch diamond) without running Haret.. Do you know something about this..?? Running trough Haret is really slow, the battery just last a few hours and the phone hardware gets really hot after 10 min | 15:26 |
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| lodtank | afaik this would change nothing? | 15:28 |
| lodtank | please correct me if i'm wrong | 15:28 |
| helicopter88 | juanchi: There're really a few devs for the diamond,pheraps none | 15:33 |
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| detule | hey emwe | 15:55 |
| emwe | hi detule | 15:57 |
| detule | damn you're busy | 15:59 |
| emwe | fixing up brcm_patchram_plus for .35 and i think i ... nah forget. always busy. | 15:59 |
| emwe | i still need the fn/caps stuff... | 16:00 |
| emwe | btw, if you wan't this more public, i am the last one holding you back from posting them to the ML | 16:00 |
| detule | no i just wanted acl's seal of approval, didn't want to modify his driver "behind his back" | 16:01 |
| emwe | i didn't even look into that. | 16:01 |
| emwe | perhaps i should look first before asking anything. | 16:01 |
| emwe | btw headset icon stuff pushed. cyano had patches... and even patches to allow users to disable again. i feel it coming we will pull that patches in too :) | 16:02 |
| detule | speaking of userland patches, the prox thing i sent you has a userland component to it | 16:02 |
| emwe | wasn't it included? | 16:02 |
| emwe | you mean the 3rd patch to pms? | 16:03 |
| emwe | what have i bean at, tell me? | 16:03 |
| emwe | ah brcm patchram plus... | 16:03 |
| emwe | man.. | 16:03 |
| detule | emwe, yes the pms business | 16:04 |
| emwe | i am sorry if i am slowing things down... | 16:04 |
| detule | ha you are one of two people that commit kernel patches, not sure how you could be slowing things down | 16:05 |
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| emwe | well, we could be faster if we'd be more. | 16:05 |
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| mgross029 | emwe, did you get all of the other board items enabled for bt? | 16:08 |
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| emwe | mgross029: just working out a userland patch and i'll push some stuff to kenrel autobuild. | 16:13 |
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| mgross029 | emwe, great job! I'm sure you are more bt savy now. :p | 16:15 |
| emwe | shall i be honest? ;) | 16:15 |
| detule | rpierce99, when you get a minute, can you verify that your device is sleeping as it should if you are still running that prox package | 16:16 |
| rpierce99 | by that do you mean switch to the old led style or is there another way | 16:16 |
| detule | right if you have the app that would be easiest | 16:16 |
| rpierce99 | i don't, i think i have one that you made for testing, but i think it uses the old file location | 16:17 |
| detule | crap | 16:17 |
| detule | echo "2" > /sys/module/microp*/par*/led_regime | 16:18 |
| rpierce99 | will do | 16:18 |
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| emwe | stinebd: can you gimme system_bluetooth write access? | 16:33 |
| rpierce99 | detule: it went green solid | 16:33 |
| emwe | stinebd: ideally for any repo if you don't mind... | 16:34 |
| detule | rpierce99, thanks ... i can't test this myself -> something is messed up with my sdcard, getting mmc errors all over dmesg and my device seems to not be sleeping at all | 16:37 |
| rpierce99 | that sucks | 16:37 |
| detule | hopefully hptool will solve this, but i have so much junk on there i think i am going to postpone that task for a bit | 16:38 |
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| arrrghhh | heh | 16:40 |
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| detule | yep just pissed away 100$ on a parking ticket... | 16:55 |
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| stinebd | emwe: added the group to system_bluetooth. let me know if there are more that i missed, i don't have time to look now. i tried transferring project ownership to the group but gitorious is giving me a 500 error when i do that | 17:23 |
| emwe | stinebd: thank you! | 17:23 |
| emwe | bcrm_patchram_plus .35 patch pushed. | 17:24 |
| emwe | stinebd: just fyi, i can now "Manage collaborators" on any repo it seems. wasn't possible before iirc. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | ok | 17:27 |
| emwe | enough for tonight. gnight. | 17:29 |
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| arrrghhh | wow | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | lytro actually brought a light field camera to the consumer market before the end of 2011. impressive. | 18:49 |
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| stinebd | android source code is back up, minus gitweb http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html | 21:53 |
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