Wednesday, 2011-10-05

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modevening all01:18
modafter rooting my phone, I cannot get to forum.sda-developers.com when using Barnacle tether o.o01:20
mod*xda01:20
modfrom my laptop that is, tethered through the phone01:20
modi can get ot it from the phone itself just fine01:21
modi also cannot ssh to certain addresses01:21
modi can get to xdandroid.com just fine01:21
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arrrghhhmod, that makes no sense09:05
arrrghhhlittle late on the response i know, but i figured since you were still in the room...09:10
detulehow dare you09:13
detulebe late like that09:14
arrrghhheh09:16
arrrghhhit's habitual09:16
detulestinebd, may have to cut your xda hourly09:20
arrrghhhlol09:20
mgross029arrrghhh, you get paid...?  heh09:22
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mgross029Loaded up emwe's latest .35 kernel btw and it is very smooth in froyo so far...09:23
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arrrghhhwho said anything about me getting paid?!?09:28
arrrghhh:P09:28
arrrghhhcool09:28
arrrghhhyea i've been running gb for a little over a day now09:28
arrrghhhother than the radio dropping after a phone call yesterday, it's been fine.09:28
arrrghhhi couldn't get logs of it tho.  getlogs failed, and when i went home and plugged it in, the device almost immediately froze.09:28
detuleso er what happens after a phone call? not a smd_close(7) in dmesg right?09:30
mgross029I was actually getting a radio drop on the latest .27 acoustic after phone call...  Unfortunately I wasn't in a postion to grab logs...09:30
mgross029That was in froyo not gb btw...09:30
arrrghhhdetule, never saw the logs... :(09:31
arrrghhhmgross029, i had that once09:31
arrrghhhbut it wasn't the norm09:31
arrrghhhi need to test moar on GB to see if it recurs.09:31
detuleso what's the deal with GB, emwe somehow doesn't see this dropped data behavior after phone call? that on .35? sorry i am behind on this09:32
arrrghhhheh09:32
arrrghhhwe've rehashed this problem so many times.09:32
arrrghhhso this is a GB problem detule09:32
arrrghhhit happens on GSM as well, but not after phone calls.  just 'randomly'09:33
arrrghhhfor CDMA, it's after every single phone call data fails to reconnect09:33
mgross029detule, so far I've only had the radio drop on .27...09:33
arrrghhhso perhaps after data is forced down unexpectedly, there's an issue bringing it back up?09:33
arrrghhhyea, the radio drop is a whole nother bag of worms09:34
arrrghhhi'm just talking about the data flakiness problem in GB09:34
detuleand on GSM, their data doesn't disconnect on a phone call but when they do lose data they can't get it back09:34
detule?09:34
arrrghhhyea, that's the gist i got from emwe09:34
arrrghhhhe said driving around parking lots, etc he'll randomly lose data09:35
arrrghhhand he has to uncheck/recheck data enabled09:35
mgross029I cannot believe how fast this froyo is with this .35 kernel...  There is absolutely no panel lag...09:35
arrrghhhand it brings it back.09:35
arrrghhhmgross029, stfu09:35
arrrghhh:P09:35
mgross029arrrghhh, jealous...09:35
arrrghhhheh09:35
arrrghhhyea, i had that same experience on FroYo09:36
detulei wonder if the ppp daemon is somehow handled differently in gb vs froyo though i am sure the powers that be have looked closely into the matter09:36
arrrghhhjust sucks that .35 is so... behind .27 in the driver area.09:36
arrrghhhdetule, you're probably right09:36
detulearrrghhh, does .35 have power management?09:36
arrrghhhbut honestly i don't think it's been looked into deeply09:36
arrrghhhpower management?  yes, AFAIK.  my battery doesn't die in minutes, so it seems to work :P09:36
mgross029I just wish the sysfs was complete...  Would like to try BT and Wifi...  :p09:36
arrrghhhbut yea lots of hardware not done yet.09:37
mgross029I know my phone is cool to the touch so seems like it is going to sleep properly...09:37
arrrghhhja09:37
arrrghhhand battery life is pretty damned good.  i ran all day yesterday on GB09:38
arrrghhh+.3509:38
detulecool i remember looking at pm.c in the .35 tree once and it looked skimpier09:41
arrrghhhyea, .35 is definitely a carefully crafted beast09:41
arrrghhhi think acl is waiting for cam tho to jump ship on nand..09:41
detule(i am just bashing 35 to coerce emwe to join the room)09:42
arrrghhhha09:42
mgross029heh09:43
detulearrrghhh, congratulations i see you've broken a thou on xd09:59
detulea09:59
arrrghhhyep10:00
arrrghhh1,00110:00
arrrghhhbitches.10:00
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arrrghhhi didn't get any door prize tho10:04
arrrghhhfigured i'd at least get a lousy t-shirt :P10:04
mgross029arrrghhh, http://smalltalkbigresults.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/chocolate_chip_cookie.jpg10:08
mgross029heh10:08
arrrghhhdamn10:08
arrrghhhthat looks DELICIOUS!  YOU ASSHOLE!10:08
mgross029heh...  Well can't send it through IRC so that's the best I could do...10:09
arrrghhhoh well.10:09
arrrghhhi accept cash10:10
arrrghhhmoney orders10:10
mgross029paypal donations...10:10
arrrghhhnah10:10
arrrghhhpaypal is for suckers10:10
mgross029damn...  I may have to live without BT for a while...  I just loaded up live wallpaper with this .35 kernel on froyo and no other speed tweaks and everything is smooth as silk...10:18
arrrghhhwow10:23
arrrghhhi can't believe there's still 11.7% of Android devices running eclair10:23
arrrghhhhow sad10:23
mgross029Wow...10:25
mgross029Someone gave my wife a Pantechdigital Novel eReader and it's running Cupcake... heh10:25
arrrghhhnice10:31
mgross029arrrghhh, Voice Search/Command works on .35...  heh...10:35
arrrghhhyea10:35
arrrghhhemwe said that...10:35
stinebdwhat you say!!10:47
stinebdtethering again, att so angry10:48
stinebdgoing super slow today10:48
stinebdmaybe they throttled me10:48
stinebdalthough it could just be the post office website10:49
arrrghhhstinebd, you have any ION net top et al experience?10:49
stinebdno10:49
arrrghhhbummer.10:49
mgross029Yeah...  They may have cut their bandwidth since they have no money... heh10:49
arrrghhhlol10:50
stinebdi have lots of shitty atom netbook experience though10:50
arrrghhhhaha10:50
arrrghhhnah, i want to figure out something different for my media center setup10:50
arrrghhhthe PS3 just isn't cutting it.10:50
stinebdget that thing i was looking at10:50
stinebdit seems to be pretty much made for it10:50
arrrghhhbut i didn't think it was ready10:51
stinebdso? it's a project then10:51
arrrghhhsomething to play with is nice, but i can't wait a year for drivers lol10:51
arrrghhhehhhh10:51
stinebdthey have experimental drivers already10:51
stinebdmaybe they work10:52
arrrghhhlol10:52
arrrghhhOo10:52
arrrghhhASUS Eee Box - EB101210:52
arrrghhhnot as cheap as some of the others, but seems really quite nice.10:52
stinebdmight as well take a dump in your hand and throw it at your tv10:53
arrrghhhlmao10:53
mgross029arrrghhh, what is your media center database running on?10:54
stinebda ps310:55
arrrghhhno10:55
arrrghhha linux server10:55
mgross029xbmc?10:55
arrrghhhps3mediaserver streams it to the PS3 over a gigabit link.10:55
arrrghhhno....10:55
stinebdthat sounds pretty terrible10:55
arrrghhhxbmc is what i'm looking at10:55
arrrghhhstinebd, it's not ideal10:55
stinebdxbmc is also terrible10:55
arrrghhhlol10:55
arrrghhhyou're just racist10:56
stinebdnot really10:56
stinebdi just don't watch tv or movies10:56
mgross029Just curious...  I use mymovies.dk for my movie db...10:56
arrrghhhthen... you really don't have an opinion10:56
arrrghhhor rather your opinion doesn't matter here10:56
stinebdwhich makes it all the more confusing why you're asking me10:56
arrrghhhmymovies.dk?10:56
arrrghhhyea, i forget.10:56
arrrghhhi assume everyone is as awesome as me.10:57
arrrghhh:D10:57
mgross029arrrghhh, yeah...  You'll have to check it out...10:57
arrrghhhi'm looking10:57
stinebdi don't get set-top boxes to stream stuff to my tv, i get them to stream mail to my computer10:57
arrrghhhsounds... wacky.10:57
arrrghhhstinebd, lol10:57
stinebdactually i might get one if i ever have money again10:58
stinebdi have about 14 ounces of silver i might cash in just to pay muh billz10:58
mgross029I have over 100 movies it there right now...  Menu's a bit slow with my xbox360 but it actually streams quite well...10:59
mgross029All over wireless...10:59
stinebdarrrghhh doesn't want wireless10:59
stinebdunless it's gigabit10:59
arrrghhhlol10:59
stinebdso 802.11p10:59
mgross029Well then he'll probably get better performance...10:59
mgross029heh11:00
arrrghhhmgross029, performance isn't an issue11:00
arrrghhhi just don't want to turn on my PS3 everytime i want to watch a tv show11:00
stinebdyou overuse ellipses11:00
arrrghhhor a movie11:00
stinebdand it drives me crazy...11:00
arrrghhhsory...11:00
arrrghhhlol11:00
arrrghhhpoop11:00
stinebdfail11:00
mgross029I know...  Habit...11:00
mgross029lol11:00
mgross029...11:00
stinebdyou should tell people your . key gets stuck for 3 keystrokes every time you hit it11:00
arrrghhhha11:01
mgross029Ah...  Yeah...  That's it...11:01
stinebdbut then whenever you want to type an actual ellipsis, you need to hit . 9 times11:01
arrrghhhthe only thing that concerns me going to a nettop11:01
arrrghhhis surround sound11:01
ryannathansrhod100_uk keymaps for rhod110 have the ctrl stuffed11:01
arrrghhhmost seem to have hdmi / SPIDF, but will it work...11:02
arrrghhhryannathans, noshit11:02
stinebdyes11:02
stinebdyes it will11:02
ryannathansf22 had it fixed11:02
ryannathansbut nooooo11:02
ryannathanswe had to change it11:02
arrrghhhryannathans, he never committed anything.11:02
stinebdpatches welcome11:02
arrrghhh^^11:02
arrrghhhso stfu.11:02
stinebdbitching unwelcome11:02
arrrghhhlol11:02
ryannathansI can't go steal his work11:02
ryannathanseven if it's 4 characters in a file11:02
stinebdthat's our issue as well11:02
ryannathansfuck it, I will do it anyway! ;D11:03
ryannathansI will submit patch11:03
ryannathansand my life will be useful11:03
ryannathansit would have had purpose11:03
arrrghhhi was going to tear apart his work11:03
arrrghhhbut never really spent enough time on it to determine what we should rip out11:04
stinebdarrrghhh: you see bitbucket's git jazz?11:04
ryannathansall i want is a freakin working crtl11:04
stinebdi kinda wanna move there11:04
arrrghhhmostly the KL's, KCM's or whatever the hell else there is.11:04
arrrghhhryannathans, so fucking take the kl, sheesh.11:04
arrrghhhstinebd, do eeeet11:04
stinebdbut at the same time11:04
stinebdi don't want to do the work involved11:04
ryannathanshmm, i guess i will have to have a play11:05
arrrghhhheh11:05
ryannathansmake a new folder and work out how to get it workin on phys_keyboard11:05
ryannathanswasn't too hard last time i looked11:05
ryannathansshit changes quickly round here11:05
ryannathansdid it once11:05
ryannathansthen someone changed the wat it was set out in rootfs11:05
ryannathansand it never worked again11:05
arrrghhhyou poor child11:06
stinebdthe way it is now in rootfs is the best way it's ever been11:06
ryannathansprobably11:06
stinebdand will be further improved11:06
stinebdOut for Delivery October 05, 2011, 9:06 am PHILADELPHIA, PA 1914311:08
stinebduh oh11:08
stinebdwe aren't in philly...11:08
stinebdway to go, usps11:08
arrrghhhusps sucks11:08
arrrghhhtheir tracking sucks11:08
arrrghhhtheir delivery sucks11:08
arrrghhhdonkey balsl11:08
stinebdtracking has improved substantially actually11:08
arrrghhhyea11:08
arrrghhhdoes it actually provide updates?  lol11:08
stinebdit's almost at where dhl was before they... oh wait11:08
stinebdyeah they're screwed11:09
stinebdi wish they'd raise the bulk mailing rates to something ridiculous so i can stop getting credit card offers11:09
stinebdit's literally all i get in the mail now11:10
stinebdone thing i like about usps is that they can deliver parcels so much faster than cheap fedex or ups11:10
stinebd3 days vs 2 months for god damn smartpost11:11
arrrghhhlol11:11
arrrghhhlooks like it's time to blow up my phone again11:11
stinebdyeah it's good for msm7k devices to explode regularly11:11
arrrghhhemwe is stalking the logs11:16
arrrghhhdetule, "Regarding the data behaviour, it also drops on calls."11:17
arrrghhhlol, emwe just sent me that11:17
detulehm this just means one thing11:19
detulewe weren't bashing .35 properly before11:19
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arrrghhhlmao11:25
arrrghhhproperly, or enough it seems.11:25
mgross029.35 would be great if we could just shove the sysfs into it...  :p11:53
mgross029CDMA devices always drop data when they make calls...  That's a design flaw...  :p11:54
arrrghhhheh11:55
arrrghhhyea, but it should reconnect after the call11:55
mgross029And that's the gotcha...  heh...11:56
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stinebdMissent October 05, 2011, 12:46 pm PHILADELPHIA, PA 1914313:30
stinebdyeah, no shit13:30
arrrghhhlol13:30
stinebdyou're only a hundred zip codes off assholes13:30
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arrrghhhbzo's come to save the day16:34
bzosup dude16:34
arrrghhhnada man16:34
arrrghhhhow goes it?16:34
bzonot bad16:34
bzotried the new verizon radio after seeing you mention it the other day16:35
bzoseems to work a lot better16:35
arrrghhhyup16:35
arrrghhhsurprised it works at all, but i guess it's all CDMA.16:35
bzoif the android time since last plugged counter is to be believed, I'm at 56% after 45 hours16:35
arrrghhhdamn16:36
arrrghhhyou don't have service tho, right?16:36
bzofull service, but have minimal stuff installed16:36
arrrghhhwow...16:36
bzono email, etc16:36
arrrghhhthat's awesome.16:36
arrrghhhstill16:36
arrrghhhvery cool.16:36
bzoyeah, I think what was killing the battery before was the constant switching between towers16:36
arrrghhhprobably wasn't helping.16:37
bzoI would see it waking up a few times an hour to do so16:37
arrrghhhso you ready to dive head first into NAND?16:37
bzohaven't seen it once since flashing new radio16:37
arrrghhhnice16:37
bzonah, need to be able to reliably use the phone :P16:37
arrrghhhlol16:37
arrrghhhdamnit.16:38
bzoat least have the backup of a quick reboot16:38
arrrghhhacl could use some help methinks.16:38
arrrghhhyea16:38
arrrghhhi've flashed it to my main phone at work, because i have my desk phone & google voice - so no one notices the phone is out of commission.16:38
bzohonestly, I never cared that much about going to nand16:38
arrrghhhit's got some work to do.16:38
arrrghhhdamn you.16:38
arrrghhhyou're just like jonpry :P16:38
bzoyep, haret4ever :P16:39
arrrghhhi really want to get rid of winmo...16:39
arrrghhhheh16:39
arrrghhhit certainly does make things easier, using winmo as a crutch...16:39
bzoI'm not opposed to it, but not really excited about going nand until I never need to use winmo again16:39
bzoanyways, getting back to batt life, wonder why yours is so much worse?16:40
bzoyou're rhod500 too right?16:40
bzoerr 40016:41
arrrghhhyea 40016:41
arrrghhhand i sync a lot of crap16:41
arrrghhhemail, gvoice, clocksync16:41
arrrghhhprobably a lot of other crap i don't want syncing too16:41
bzomakes sense that's what kills the batt16:42
rpierce99arrrghhh: why do you still use clocksync, i haven't had to for a long time16:42
arrrghhhplus, i'm always skewing crap by rebooting and testing this or that...16:42
arrrghhhrpierce99, mine still drifts.16:42
arrrghhhi noticed it the other day.  not sure why...16:42
rpierce99well it drifts but it's corrected often from nitz16:42
bzodid hyc fix that in the ril?16:42
arrrghhhyea16:43
rpierce99i don't think it worked properly in faux-gsm mode16:43
rpierce99much like netloc16:43
arrrghhhrpierce99, i don't know why mine still drifts.  noticed it one day, so i put clocksync back to autosync mode.16:43
arrrghhhi set it to 6 hour sync instead of hourly tho.16:43
arrrghhhdrift doesn't seem as bad as it was.16:43
rpierce99you don't get nitz more often than 6 hours?16:43
arrrghhhnever looked16:45
arrrghhhi would assume yes16:45
arrrghhhbut the clock still drifted on me after a few days of uptime.  meh.16:45
rpierce99maybe the offset between clocksyncs is offset with nitzes and fills in a gap16:45
arrrghhhmeh16:46
arrrghhhMEH16:46
arrrghhhit works16:46
bzoI feels like it doesn't update that often16:46
arrrghhhand probably isn't the main source of the drain.16:46
detulexdandroid, late tell emwe need to pick your brain about using the new toolchain16:48
detulexdandroid, later tell emwe need to pick your brain about using the new toolchain16:48
xdandroiddetule: The operation succeeded.16:48
detulethat was more of a note to self.....wish i could do a "xdandroid later tell detule when emwe is around pick emwe's brain....."16:55
arrrghhhheh16:55
arrrghhhthere's this system of mailing people electronically16:55
arrrghhhit's pretty new, you may not have heard of it...16:55
bzofax16:56
arrrghhhdamn i hate fax machines.16:56
arrrghhhi want to stab them all in their stupid analog faces16:56
bzocrazy how common they still are16:57
arrrghhhyea16:57
arrrghhhour company depends on them16:57
bzothank god snaps from your phone are getting accepted at lots of places instead of fax16:57
arrrghhheven tho we have scanners that can workflow documents AND email16:57
arrrghhhpeople still insist on using fax machines... i hate them!!16:57
detuledeleting lines from microp-klt -ksc and -keypad....i call that addition by subtraction16:58
stinebdEES NAHT AH TOOMAH17:02
stinebdbtw re the promotion at work, so far it indeed does not come with a raise heh17:03
arrrghhhaw17:04
arrrghhhthat's how it goes17:04
arrrghhhi got "promoted"17:04
arrrghhha lot more responsibility for the same pay... hooray.17:04
bzoyep that is the "promotion" of the 2010s17:05
arrrghhhmmmhmmm17:05
arrrghhhf-ing fantastic.  i'm already interviewing at another place next week...17:05
stinebdat least i get weekends off17:05
arrrghhhheh17:06
stinebdi was really hoping though17:07
stinebdbecause i'm seriously just about out of money17:07
stinebdthat trip might have been a mistake17:07
arrrghhhthat sucks man...17:07
stinebdrather, coming back might have been the mistake17:07
arrrghhhlol17:07
bzoI don't think Japan is as lenient with transients17:08
stinebdi had an in baby17:08
stinebdbut i have no balls to do it17:08
bzoyou knocked up a gal there?17:08
stinebduh no, that'd be an out17:09
detulein-baby ha17:09
rpierce99haha android running emulated in webos, that's hilarious17:10
stinebdtouchpad?17:10
rpierce99yeah17:10
stinebdall those donations and that's what they come up with?17:10
rpierce99i don't even know who did it, I don't think any of the main teams wanted it done that way17:11
bzoyeah, I think it's some random guy that did it17:11
stinebdprobably the guy that stole all the donations17:11
bzonah, I don't think that guy knew how to do anything17:12
stinebdexactly17:12
bzomaybe it will change when android is ported, but i find I hardly use my touchpad17:12
bzoit's so damn huge17:13
stinebdthat's what she never said to me17:13
bzoshes said: what I like about you is that you're more like a nook17:13
stinebdshe said: no thanks, i'm a lesbian17:14
arrrghhhlol17:14
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stinebdahhahaha19:25
stinebdsquirrel just ran across home plate in st louis19:25
arrrghhhalmost as good as that pitcher that hit a bird, lol19:26
stinebdthe commentators were just talking about that19:26
arrrghhhnice19:26
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arrrghhhwoah... steve jobs is dead.19:48
stinebdRIP19:49
stinebdhard to believe19:49
arrrghhhRIP indeed.  i'm kinda surprised, but i guess i shouldn't be.19:50
stinebdchrome dev channel having some serious issues with scrolling on twitter20:02
stinebdperhaps it's contemplating why on earth i'm using the twitter website20:02
arrrghhhlol20:02
arrrghhhi was just going to say, who uses twitter20:02
bzostinebd: repo working yet since kernel.org is back up?20:04
stinebdno20:04
stinebd*.git.kernel.org still down20:04
stinebdthey are re-adding developer accounts and then the developers will be in charge of restoring their code20:04
bzomeh, guess it's getting close though20:05
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elesbbhey arrrghhh , milestone just means a stock ROM correct ?20:50
arrrghhhwat20:51
arrrghhh"the" Milestone is the OG Droid...20:51
arrrghhhdo you have any context to your question!?!20:54
elesbbwell i was just reading about android and different builds and such and came across "Milestone" and some scripts apps are designed for it .20:58
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arrrghhhelesbb, well that's what i assume it is21:11
elesbbok thanks . i wasnt sure . lol21:13
elesbbhave a good one arrrghhh !21:13
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stinebdfreaky21:21
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raymonddullwhats freaky?21:34
stinebdconfusing a type of rom with a specific device's name21:35
raymonddullyeah21:36
raymonddullthough I guess I can see where he's coming from,usually a milestone in software development would be the point where most stuff is stable and its ready to be released21:36
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arrrghhhhe never even really gave the context21:41
arrrghhhso i was just speculating21:41
arrrghhh"some scripts apps"?21:41
raymonddullyeah21:49
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elesbbhey got another question ! when using the tether function , is that stealth tethering ? or should I use an app ?22:39
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