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| t0gus4 | hi | 05:48 | 
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| t0gus4 | This has happened to me a couple of times now, the email app force closes and after that I have to reconfigure the mail account and sync everything again | 05:49 | 
| t0gus4 | any ideas? | 05:49 | 
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| detule | rpierce99, are you on stock sprint 2.32? | 10:48 | 
| rpierce99 | yess | 10:49 | 
| detule | if so can you get me getprop | grep ro.tel | 10:49 | 
| detule | in particular i am curious if ro.telephony.call_ring.multiple is set | 10:50 | 
| rpierce99 | i don't even have that | 10:50 | 
| detule | ok thanks | 10:50 | 
| rpierce99 | just default network in that | 10:50 | 
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| arrrghhh | detule, yo | 11:27 | 
| arrrghhh | i am getting off work early today | 11:27 | 
| arrrghhh | so i can probably test some raph poop for you this afternoon/evening. | 11:28 | 
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| t0gus4 | This has happened to me a couple of times now, the email app force closes and after that I have to reconfigure the mail account and sync everything again | 13:04 | 
| arrrghhh | i prefer the gmail app over the email app. | 13:04 | 
| arrrghhh | if it's a non-gmail acct | 13:05 | 
| arrrghhh | k9mail | 13:05 | 
| arrrghhh | stock email app is awful. | 13:05 | 
| t0gus4 | not using gmail | 13:05 | 
| t0gus4 | lol some of you won't like it but I need exchange sync | 13:05 | 
| arrrghhh | k9mail | 13:05 | 
| t0gus4 | and that's the one that keeps losing it's settings when it force closes | 13:05 | 
| t0gus4 | so k9mail will do exchange sync then? | 13:07 | 
| arrrghhh | i assume it does | 13:07 | 
| t0gus4 | lol | 13:07 | 
| arrrghhh | i have no exchange server in which to test with | 13:07 | 
| arrrghhh | so... you're on your own. | 13:07 | 
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, did you push k9mail as a system/app? Or just a market install? | 13:07 | 
| arrrghhh | exchange and android have never gotten along so well together. | 13:08 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, never used it | 13:08 | 
| t0gus4 | I'm using the default mail app that came with xdandroid | 13:08 | 
| mgross029 | heh | 13:08 | 
| arrrghhh | t0gus4, that's nice | 13:08 | 
| t0gus4 | well it may be, but it keeps losing everything | 13:09 | 
| arrrghhh | t0gus4, that's nice | 13:09 | 
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| mgross029 | I use the defaul mail app for my hotmail account... Seems to work fine except for html mail... text only... Blehh.. | 13:10 | 
| arrrghhh | hotmail, wtf. | 13:10 | 
| t0gus4 | it works great, but sometimes it force closes, and I'm not even using it. | 13:11 | 
| t0gus4 | I just get the message that there was an error and it has to force close | 13:11 | 
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| arrrghhh | t0gus4, either take my advice, or don't. | 13:11 | 
| t0gus4 | after that all settings are lost, contacts emails everything | 13:11 | 
| t0gus4 | I heard arrrghhh | 13:11 | 
| arrrghhh | so why do you keep reliving the issues you have with the default app? | 13:11 | 
| t0gus4 | and will check k9mail | 13:11 | 
| arrrghhh | please. | 13:12 | 
| t0gus4 | because you guys keep telling me it's good | 13:12 | 
| arrrghhh | if it still fails... all i can say is exchange and Android aren't exactly close friends. | 13:12 | 
| arrrghhh | k9 is basically an app to attempt to resolve the issues with the stock email app. | 13:12 | 
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, hotmail... Had it for over 10 years... Kind of hard to get rid of now... :p | 13:12 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, i've had a hotmail account since 1998 | 13:13 | 
| arrrghhh | doesn't mean i care about what emails go to it | 13:13 | 
| stinebd | 1928 called, they want their prohibition and email service back | 13:13 | 
| mgross029 | t0gus4, I would recommend backup/rename data.img and create a new... | 13:13 | 
| mgross029 | lol | 13:13 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:14 | 
| stinebd | you should upgrade to compuserve | 13:14 | 
| t0gus4 | how would I go about creating a new one? Will it create itself a new one when there isn't one there? | 13:14 | 
| mgross029 | I used to be on sprynet... :p | 13:14 | 
| stinebd | t0gus4: rename data.img and it'll create a new one for you | 13:14 | 
| t0gus4 | k thanks I shall try that later. | 13:15 | 
| stinebd | i heard there's this amazing new technology called bbs that's due out by the end of the year | 13:15 | 
| arrrghhh | bbs? do tell | 13:15 | 
| stinebd | apparently you dial into it and you can download ascii porn | 13:15 | 
| arrrghhh | lolol | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | 9600 bytes per second | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | or bits | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | first one then the other | 13:16 | 
| rpierce99 | default mail app and exchange works great for me, of course we are on exchange 2003 | 13:16 | 
| mgross029 | Of course before I could get DSL or Cable I used to run a Analog router with two phone lines that would aggragate my bandwidth... lol | 13:16 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't think my 300 baud modem can handle that | 13:16 | 
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, you're not helping | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | yeah rpierce99 | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | we're not talking about that junk | 13:16 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:16 | 
| stinebd | this is bbs discussion sir | 13:16 | 
| rpierce99 | what I'm saying is there are many server-side things that can cause issues with the email apps | 13:17 | 
| rpierce99 | different versions, patch levels, security settings, etc | 13:17 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:17 | 
| arrrghhh | exchange is a boar to try and support | 13:17 | 
| arrrghhh | because of all the poop you mentioned. | 13:17 | 
| stinebd | i kinda like imap | 13:17 | 
| stinebd | compared to assrape that is | 13:17 | 
| arrrghhh | we're on exchange 2010, but they won't let anything but a BB connect. | 13:17 | 
| mgross029 | I had a boss who wasted tons on bbs to download p0rn... | 13:17 | 
| rpierce99 | even on winmo, one of our security options absolutely destroyed the phone's battery | 13:17 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:18 | 
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, that's a feature | 13:18 | 
| rpierce99 | they blocked phones from being able to access "Tasks" in OWA, that caused the sync to fail and retry over and over again | 13:18 | 
| rpierce99 | s/phones/employees/ | 13:18 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 13:18 | 
| stinebd | it's designed to limit the time someone can access data after stealing a device | 13:18 | 
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| Tandyman100 | Anyone have a more stable build of gingerbread than GBX0A? | 13:21 | 
| stinebd | i do | 13:21 | 
| Tandyman100 | Oh yeah, that's right. But you can't upload it because of your slow internet or something, right? | 13:21 | 
| stinebd | not right at all | 13:21 | 
| Tandyman100 | Oh, must be thinking of someone else, then. | 13:21 | 
| Tandyman100 | someone/something | 13:21 | 
| Tandyman100 | My memory is hazy at best. | 13:21 | 
| Tandyman100 | would you mind sharing? I promise i won't come in here whining for support since it's probably unsupported. | 13:22 | 
| stinebd | i would mind, sorry | 13:22 | 
| mgross029 | lol | 13:22 | 
| stinebd | it's more stable, but that isn't saying much and it's definitely a mess because it's a working tree | 13:24 | 
| stinebd | so i don't really want to give it to anybody | 13:25 | 
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, just wait | 13:27 | 
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| Tandyman100 | I am an impatient teen :P | 13:37 | 
| arrrghhh | then develop it yourself? | 13:41 | 
| arrrghhh | we're not ready for public release yet. unfortunately not even close. | 13:42 | 
| arrrghhh | unless we forgo the acoustic for the next release, which i really don't want to do. | 13:42 | 
| Tandyman100 | ouch | 13:45 | 
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 13:45 | 
| stinebd | well | 13:52 | 
| stinebd | i guess it's time i see my lawyer | 13:52 | 
| Tandyman100 | That doesn't sound good. | 13:52 | 
| stinebd | apparently i'm entitled for compensation for the defective vaginal mesh implant i had | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 13:52 | 
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| Tandyman100 | kinky | 13:55 | 
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| mgross029 | That had to be a rough surgery... | 13:55 | 
| stinebd | yeah my balls were sore for weeks | 13:56 | 
| stinebd | i assume | 13:56 | 
| mgross029 | TMI dude... LOL | 13:56 | 
| arrrghhh | i assume bwhahahahaha | 13:56 | 
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: someone mentioned LK that runs all haret kernels super flawlessly, explain | 14:20 | 
| arrrghhh | it's x1-only | 14:21 | 
| arrrghhh | because of alex's magic | 14:21 | 
| stinebd | cocks | 14:21 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't really know details. | 14:21 | 
| arrrghhh | as usual | 14:21 | 
| arrrghhh | alex kinda explained it in #htc-linux earlier. | 14:21 | 
| stinebd | oh well | 14:21 | 
| stinebd | if they get it on rhod or raph let me know | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh | i shall | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh | why do you care? :P | 14:22 | 
| stinebd | it would speed up testing | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh | ah | 14:22 | 
| stinebd | ripping out winmo and such | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh | well, it seems microp needs to be rewritten | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh | or blown up. | 14:22 | 
| emwe | mgross029: it shouldn't matter much, but you are not on latest rootfs it looks. | 14:28 | 
| arrrghhh | boom. the oracle has spoken. | 14:29 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, ok... I can do that just in case... | 14:29 | 
| emwe | i hope it doesn't matter for acoustic :P | 14:29 | 
| arrrghhh | emwe, still no blackstone users responses... dicks. | 14:30 | 
| emwe | perhaps the rhod500 are more different then i though. | 14:30 | 
| mgross029 | Well acoustic seemed to be fine until the phone call anyway... :p | 14:30 | 
| emwe | heh | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | details. | 14:30 | 
| emwe | arrrghhh: you been doing good on gb, yapß | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | who needs to make phone calls | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | emwe, yup | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | other than the data flakiness and the other known acoustic issues | 14:30 | 
| emwe | so either user error or device difference | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | i emailed jb to prod him into helping | 14:30 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, i guess it could be a device difference... no 500 here. | 14:31 | 
| arrrghhh | 2 400's. useless. :P | 14:31 | 
| mgross029 | who needs data... :p | 14:31 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, that's about the only thing i do need... | 14:31 | 
| emwe | i know at least i got some data flakiness a bit too | 14:31 | 
| emwe | sometimes stays "grey" and have to disable enable data again | 14:31 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:31 | 
| mgross029 | Well phone calls help for me... Wife qets suspicious if I don't answer... lol | 14:31 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, that's what google voice is for | 14:31 | 
| emwe | arrrghhh: so if you see the same like me, but not with froyo, it's a gb thingy seems. | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | "report spam", the call will never go through to your phone again. | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | emwe, yea. froyo data is solid. gb... not so much. | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | RIL seemed to help re-establish data cxns | 14:32 | 
| emwe | good to have that info. not that i can do much about it, though. | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | but did nothing for the overall flakiness. which doesn't surprise me, the flakiness issue predates the RIL. | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:32 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:32 | 
| emwe | i have no real life experience with other builds. | 14:32 | 
| mgross029 | brb... Work calls... :p | 14:33 | 
| arrrghhh | you've always been a GB man. | 14:33 | 
| emwe | + that .35 fiasco which isn't much being ridden on. | 14:33 | 
| emwe | mgross029: nothing wrong in dmesg, only logcat at the end... but nothing like crash indicating. | 14:33 | 
| emwe | 09-23 14:00:59.958 W/SharedBufferStack( 275): waitForCondition(LockCondition) timed out (identity=2, status=0). CPU may be pegged. trying again. | 14:34 | 
| emwe | perhaps the ril is hammering down? dunno, really. | 14:34 | 
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| mgross029 | emwe, yeah lost total connectivity at that point... Tried to pull another dmesg and adb just hung there... I will try to pull a ramconsole... | 14:52 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, phone was unresponsive too? | 14:53 | 
| mgross029 | It was moving really slow... | 14:53 | 
| emwe | hm | 14:53 | 
| mgross029 | Something grabbed that CPU by the nads | 14:53 | 
| arrrghhh | hm indeed | 14:54 | 
| emwe | leave a "adb shell top -d 1" if possible | 14:54 | 
| arrrghhh | you can still pull logs on the device. very odd tho. | 14:54 | 
| emwe | just to see what it might be | 14:54 | 
| mgross029 | K... Ramcosole has dmesg info in it... I'll pull off sdcard and send over... | 14:55 | 
| arrrghhh | i want my ramconsole to be filled with bacon | 14:56 | 
| mgross029 | mmmm... Bacon... | 14:59 | 
| mgross029 | Maybe that will be the next version of Android... heh | 14:59 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, ramconsole sent... | 15:00 | 
| arrrghhh | eh based on the lettering i think you're wrong mgross029 :P | 15:00 | 
| mgross029 | Well it could be iBacon.... heh | 15:01 | 
| arrrghhh | did you see that post on aOS? | 15:01 | 
| arrrghhh | that made me laugh. | 15:01 | 
| arrrghhh | good shit | 15:01 | 
| detule | hey arrrghhh half-day at work? | 15:02 | 
| arrrghhh | detule, something like that | 15:02 | 
| arrrghhh | more like coming in before the sun comes up in order to do an upgrade (that failed miserably i might add) | 15:02 | 
| mgross029 | Not yet... I'll go check it out... Did you say there was a thread on updated acoustics? I didn't see it... | 15:02 | 
| arrrghhh | mgross029, not that i know of | 15:02 | 
| arrrghhh | updated acoustics, we're running crap straight off of emwe's and alex's trees. | 15:03 | 
| arrrghhh | can't get much newer than that, lol | 15:03 | 
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| emwe | mgross029: did you power down the device? | 15:03 | 
| detule | zImage: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/RaphTest/zImage Modules: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/RaphTest/modules-2.6.27.46-01350-g2ac34da.tar.gz Library: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/RaphTest/lights.msm7k.so | 15:04 | 
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| mgross029 | saw this over at htc-linux made me look... :p [12:28] <arrrghhh> 172 views of the new acoustic build thread. not one reply. | 15:04 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, yes back into WM now... I can go back in pull down terminal and run internally so I don't have to worry about usb / adb... | 15:05 | 
| emwe | mgross029: if your device goes nuts it will show issues in the concurrently running "adb shell cat /proc/kmsg" | 15:06 | 
| emwe | mgross029: can't spot anything apparently wrong. | 15:06 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, ok... I'll try to pull more... | 15:07 | 
| emwe | mgross029: dunno if that will help. sry, can#t spot | 15:07 | 
| emwe | mgross029: but it's good to have dmesg and logcat running. in case, just copy the terminal outputs then. | 15:07 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, let me up to the newest rootfs too... | 15:08 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, logcat was running dmesg runs and exits quickly doesn't keep pulling... | 15:09 | 
| arrrghhh | detule, cool. still at work right now, but i am leaving soon. | 15:09 | 
| emwe | mgross029: logcat running dmesg runs? | 15:10 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, yes | 15:10 | 
| emwe | that sounds strange.. | 15:11 | 
| emwe | "adb logcat" shows logcat. "adb shell cat /proc/kmsg" shows dmesg | 15:11 | 
| mgross029 | sorry... confused me there... adb shell dmesg runs and quits... I will do adb shell cat /proc/kmsg | 15:12 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:12 | 
| emwe | do the "cat" thing... | 15:12 | 
| emwe | it will not run and quit but just run... | 15:12 | 
| mgross029 | Understood... Thanks... | 15:13 | 
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| stinebd | lol i can't believe they still haven't deactivated my gentoo account | 15:26 | 
| mgross029 | emwe, I go back in and if I don't keep the screen awake it gets a SOD... I can even pull the USB cable and the charge light still stays on... ADB does not see it... | 15:31 | 
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| arrrghhh | mgross029, had that happen to me earlier today | 15:32 | 
| arrrghhh | plugged in, adb... then the phone was just dead. | 15:32 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure if that's .35, gb, or whut... | 15:32 | 
| emwe | hm, that sounds like the issues i had with the cfq scheduler. | 15:32 | 
| emwe | but if you are .27 you got noop schedule | 15:32 | 
| emwe | r | 15:32 | 
| emwe | since i switched i got no SODs. had many during the holidays | 15:32 | 
| stinebd | scheduler was causing that? | 15:33 | 
| mgross029 | On .35 | 15:33 | 
| emwe | well... its far fetched stinebd. switched and was good | 15:33 | 
| stinebd | weird | 15:33 | 
| emwe | sometimes i could have it go weirdo being alive. had huge io load and would never recover | 15:33 | 
| emwe | was lucky i had a top open and it would never relax again. not usable. | 15:33 | 
| emwe | mgross029: if you are bored, test out airplane mode. | 15:33 | 
| emwe | and see if you can bring it to fail | 15:34 | 
| mgross029 | Ok... I'll see what I can do... | 15:34 | 
| emwe | just fi you got nothing better to do ;) | 15:34 | 
| mgross029 | I do have a logcat that was running when it went to sleep... Not sure if that will help... | 15:36 | 
| emwe | i did not track it down by logs when i had it, because i saw nothing. | 15:37 | 
| mgross029 | I was trying to get the adb shel cat going... Kept giving me permission denied... Had to adb shell and su first before running cat... | 15:37 | 
| mgross029 | k | 15:37 | 
| emwe | ah that shit...unsecure rootfs could help there... | 15:38 | 
| mgross029 | Oh the ro.secure in the default.prop? | 15:38 | 
| emwe | yap. it's a pita to do devel with that on. | 15:38 | 
| mgross029 | K... I'll see what I can do... | 15:39 | 
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| arrrghhh | goin home, peace out | 16:05 | 
| mgross029 | C'ya... I'm getting outta here to... Laters... | 16:06 | 
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| GlemSom | emwe, You were talking about the 2011.03 toolchain... Do you have the needed patches for the proper page alignment ? (In a repository - or just a diff?) | 16:29 | 
| GlemSom | emwe, Or did you find it was not really faster anyway? (btw, -mno-unaligned-access should make the newer toolchain compile unmodified code?) | 16:37 | 
| stinebd | man funerals are expensive | 16:37 | 
| stinebd | never die, you can't afford it | 16:38 | 
| emwe | yap, right GlemSom, you can build with that flag and it's good, too. | 16:38 | 
| emwe | GlemSom: one sec... | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | 1 | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | 2 | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | 3 | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | 4 | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | .... | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | ;) | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | Did you test if it was actually faster... ? | 16:38 | 
| GlemSom | stinebd, There's not much positive to say about funerals in general... | 16:39 | 
| emwe | GlemSom: i don't really recall. i just did tes if it runs, but was working on other stuff and left it alone. | 16:40 | 
| emwe | man, i am failing with git format-patch... | 16:41 | 
| emwe | ridiculous | 16:41 | 
| GlemSom | I messed up at work today... Not with git, but with svn... apparently there's a HUGE difference on "commit" and "revert"... :( | 16:42 | 
| emwe | heh | 16:42 | 
| GlemSom | aha -> http://blog.galemin.com/2011/05/linux-kernel-2-6-39-codesourcery-2011-03-41-alignment-exception/ | 16:45 | 
| emwe | yap, that's teh one i've been reading back then. | 16:46 | 
| emwe | boy, i am dumb. | 16:46 | 
| GlemSom | Naaah... That can't be right... :P | 16:46 | 
| emwe | GlemSom: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/dot35/patches/0001-defconfig-disable-sw-alignment-trap-with-codesourcer.patch | 16:48 | 
| emwe | should be applicable to .27 | 16:48 | 
| emwe | GlemSom: if you like to make some tests, more then welcome. | 16:49 | 
| GlemSom | I think I'll give it a go a little later tonight | 16:51 | 
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| emwe | have fun! | 16:54 | 
| emwe | and thanks for testing out. | 16:54 | 
| emwe | oh, i have prox sensor suspicion... ohoh | 16:55 | 
| emwe | or not... | 16:55 | 
| emwe | ah damnit. think before write. | 16:55 | 
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| stinebd | nobody ever got anywhere by thinking | 17:06 | 
| emwe | yeah, tried hard, had to stop that. | 17:15 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:15 | 
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| Leosirth | hi | 18:14 | 
| Leosirth | is it possible to install xdandroid using partition on SD? | 18:15 | 
| stinebd | it's not a supported configuration, but it is possible. we can't help you do it. | 18:16 | 
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| Leosirth | thanks stinebd | 18:28 | 
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| arrrghhh | Leosirth, were you the one having issues with Droid Explorer...? | 19:03 | 
| Leosirth | no arrrghhh | 19:16 | 
| arrrghhh | k, sorry. | 19:16 | 
| Leosirth | np | 19:16 | 
| arrrghhh | mind if i ask why you want to setup a partitioned build? | 19:18 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't really think there's much advantage... a lot of work for little payout. | 19:18 | 
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| Leosirth | i would like to see if i could get a boost in performance | 19:31 | 
| arrrghhh | won't get much, if any from that. | 19:32 | 
| Leosirth | oh, thanks | 19:33 | 
| Leosirth | what device do you have? | 19:33 | 
| arrrghhh | RHOD400 | 19:33 | 
| Leosirth | DIAM100 here | 19:33 | 
| arrrghhh | ah | 19:34 | 
| arrrghhh | careful memory management will do that device wonders | 19:34 | 
| arrrghhh | because it's so low on RAM | 19:34 | 
| Leosirth | yeah | 19:35 | 
| Leosirth | you know some tricks? | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | have you read my speed improvements thread? the minfree tweaks really seem to help. | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | ^^ :P | 19:35 | 
| stinebd | bs no they don't | 19:35 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:36 | 
| Leosirth | nope, i'm going now lol | 19:36 | 
| arrrghhh | no one asked you stinebd | 19:36 | 
| stinebd | the devs would have merged them into the releases if they actually helped | 19:36 | 
| arrrghhh | those guys are idiots. | 19:36 | 
| stinebd | they're at least an order of magnitude smarter than you and me | 19:37 | 
| Leosirth | i'm fine with xdandroid, i have just one issue with the latest kernel: i can't install any app from market. after download remain in install status for ever | 19:37 | 
| arrrghhh | eh, what do they know. perched on their thrones. | 19:37 | 
| arrrghhh | Leosirth, i doubt that's a kernel issue | 19:37 | 
| arrrghhh | have you tried simply rebooting? | 19:37 | 
| Leosirth | well i tried a couple of reboot and with previous kernel all is working again....maybe just a coincidence...i'm testing xdandroid from only 2 days | 19:39 | 
| arrrghhh | the Market is probably the most finnicky part of Android | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | especially our port of it... | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | i blame GlemSom | 19:44 | 
| Leosirth | do you use the version shipped with xdandroid of the market or updated it? | 19:44 | 
| arrrghhh | i personally updated it | 19:45 | 
| Leosirth | to what version? | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | newest | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess i haven't tried the absolute newest | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | someone just gave me a link to 3.1.5 | 19:46 | 
| Leosirth | lol | 19:46 | 
| Leosirth | i thought of 2.x | 19:46 | 
| stinebd | google+ widget so useless | 19:48 | 
| stinebd | why did they even bother? | 19:48 | 
| rpierce99 | s/widget// FTFY | 19:48 | 
| arrrghhh | hah | 19:57 | 
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, What am I being accused for now ? :) | 20:10 | 
| arrrghhh | the Android Market, what else? :P | 20:11 | 
| GlemSom | ahh ok... yeah - let's save some space.. :D | 20:11 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:12 | 
| stinebd | lol http://susanshan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/John-Clayton-Mr.-Mackey.jpg | 20:14 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 20:14 | 
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| stinebd | btw arrrghhh, don't forget next wednesday is the start of rosh hashanah | 20:17 | 
| stinebd | i expect many gifts | 20:17 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:17 | 
| arrrghhh | i hope you like pork | 20:17 | 
| stinebd | i greatly don't | 20:18 | 
| arrrghhh | too bad | 20:18 | 
| GlemSom | Anyone know if emwe will be back later tonight ? | 20:19 | 
| arrrghhh | dunno | 20:19 | 
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| arrrghhh | i haz his email if you want it | 20:19 | 
| Leosirth | bye all, thanks for support and chat | 20:19 | 
| arrrghhh | cya | 20:19 | 
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| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, let's do this if you have 15 minutes | 20:20 | 
| d3tul3 | since it's friday night, either it works right away or we are debugging monday :) | 20:20 | 
| arrrghhh | lol i see | 20:20 | 
| rpierce99 | haha that's funny, eithe d3tul3 doesn't belong here, or he pretends he has a life, which is it? | 20:21 | 
| d3tul3 | i have a life....i am trying really hard to avoid...at least the professional bit | 20:22 | 
| rpierce99 | work life != life | 20:22 | 
| d3tul3 | it is when work comes home with you | 20:22 | 
| arrrghhh | at least it shouldn't | 20:22 | 
| GlemSom | Why was he complaining about Market... It seems to be running fine? | 20:24 | 
| stinebd | it randomly starts failing | 20:24 | 
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, it's just finnicky | 20:24 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, loadin it up now | 20:26 | 
| d3tul3 | i've been mucking around with the RIL -> it's a maze in there...i was trying to trace the ring call to its failure point -> i am bind mounting about 10 binaries | 20:27 | 
| GlemSom | xdandroid tell emwe Tested 2011.03 toolchain, but I needed to adjust the patch to this -> http://glemsom.androidangle.com/autobuild/sw_align_2.6.27.patch (To make it apply to the current .27 tree) | 20:27 | 
| GlemSom | Ohh, it's !tell right... ? | 20:27 | 
| GlemSom | :/ | 20:27 | 
| arrrghhh | later tell i think | 20:27 | 
| GlemSom | I never liked talking with bots anyway... | 20:27 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:27 | 
| stinebd | later tell yes | 20:27 | 
| rpierce99 | yeah d3tul3, the old one used to make a bit of sense to me, this new one is crazy complex | 20:27 | 
| GlemSom | later tell emwe Tested 2011.03 toolchain, but I needed to adjust the patch to this -> http://glemsom.androidangle.com/autobuild/sw_align_2.6.27.patch (To make it apply to the current .27 tree) | 20:27 | 
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, lmao | 20:27 | 
| rpierce99 | still have to say xdandroid | 20:27 | 
| arrrghhh | xdandroid later tell | 20:27 | 
| xdandroid | arrrghhh: later tell <nick> <text> | 20:27 | 
| arrrghhh | like that ^^ | 20:27 | 
| stinebd | CHAT POLL | 20:28 | 
| GlemSom | xdandroid later tell emwe Tested 2011.03 toolchain, but I needed to adjust the patch to this -> http://glemsom.androidangle.com/autobuild/sw_align_2.6.27.patch (To make it apply to the current .27 tree) | 20:28 | 
| xdandroid | GlemSom: The operation succeeded. | 20:28 | 
| stinebd | thoughts on switching to github and begging them to increase disk space limit for us | 20:28 | 
| arrrghhh | hizzah! | 20:28 | 
| GlemSom | :P | 20:28 | 
| rpierce99 | why do we take so much disk space? | 20:28 | 
| stinebd | frameworks/base mostly | 20:29 | 
| arrrghhh | angry birds is a beast | 20:29 | 
| GlemSom | because we host our p0rn there too... uhmm... i mean... our binary files... | 20:29 | 
| stinebd | no binaries | 20:29 | 
| rpierce99 | so no android builds can use github today? | 20:29 | 
| stinebd | just the massive history | 20:29 | 
| stinebd | rpierce99: projects have to request an increased disk space limit | 20:29 | 
| GlemSom | yeah, don't submit so many patches... :P | 20:29 | 
| stinebd | which github usually allows | 20:29 | 
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, make sure you dont have ledeffects or any of that fanciness | 20:29 | 
| rpierce99 | i guess i don't know the diff, but github seems to have neat features | 20:30 | 
| stinebd | github provides a form of post-commit hooks | 20:30 | 
| stinebd | which gitorious does not | 20:30 | 
| stinebd | also github is down less | 20:30 | 
| arrrghhh | so start beggin | 20:30 | 
| GlemSom | xdandroid later tell xdandroid You're impossible to have a conversation with ! | 20:30 | 
| arrrghhh | get some kneepads | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, fail :P | 20:31 | 
| GlemSom | indeed -> <xdandroid> Error: I can't send notes to myself | 20:31 | 
| GlemSom | I suck at talking with bots... really... | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | lolol | 20:31 | 
| GlemSom | I'm HORRIBLE... | 20:31 | 
| stinebd | you really are | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | quit trying to rape them | 20:31 | 
| stinebd | no internets for you sir | 20:31 | 
| GlemSom | stupid bot does what I ask... not what I want... :/ | 20:32 | 
| stinebd | the bot should have a damn you autocorrect | 20:32 | 
| arrrghhh | ok, that should be it. booting shortly d3tul3 | 20:32 | 
| arrrghhh | what should i test exactly? | 20:32 | 
| stinebd | so when you ask it to tell someone something, it gives you a blowjob | 20:32 | 
| arrrghhh | this is going to be interesting with no service lol | 20:32 | 
| GlemSom | It should be more like google... always knowing what I want - even before I realize it myself.. | 20:32 | 
| d3tul3 | first do a ls -l /sys/class/leds | 20:32 | 
| d3tul3 | there should be something about a trackball there | 20:32 | 
| d3tul3 | then make sure the trackball doesn't do anything stupid when you are unplugged/no notification (i.e. should be off) | 20:33 | 
| d3tul3 | then try to test notification | 20:33 | 
| arrrghhh | ok | 20:33 | 
| arrrghhh | testing notification is going to be interesting | 20:33 | 
| d3tul3 | oh yeah | 20:33 | 
| d3tul3 | e-mail? | 20:33 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess i can connect to wifi, sync it with my google acct and send myself an email | 20:34 | 
| arrrghhh | yup. | 20:34 | 
| stinebd | i'll send you some emails | 20:34 | 
| stinebd | hold on | 20:34 | 
| arrrghhh | shit. | 20:34 | 
| stinebd | no good? | 20:34 | 
| arrrghhh | not ready yet, thanks stine :P | 20:35 | 
| stinebd | ok i sent 4 more | 20:35 | 
| stinebd | also i signed you up to the ladyboy of the day club | 20:35 | 
| arrrghhh | w00t | 20:35 | 
| arrrghhh | now i'll get two emails from them | 20:35 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm. seems to be hung. | 20:39 | 
| stinebd | yes they are | 20:40 | 
| stinebd | only the best ladyboys for you | 20:40 | 
| arrrghhh | nono | 20:40 | 
| arrrghhh | not this time. | 20:40 | 
| arrrghhh | the raph. | 20:40 | 
| stinebd | i wasn't aware you swing that way | 20:40 | 
| stinebd | sleep of death? | 20:40 | 
| d3tul3 | did you get into android? | 20:41 | 
| arrrghhh | nah, just failed to boot | 20:41 | 
| arrrghhh | no adb, no A N D R O I D | 20:42 | 
| arrrghhh | will try another boot | 20:42 | 
| d3tul3 | flying text? | 20:43 | 
| stinebd | i get that once in a while | 20:43 | 
| stinebd | usually it's because of my raph's bad sd port | 20:43 | 
| stinebd | it's ridiculously sensitive | 20:43 | 
| d3tul3 | or i compiled my testing branch which has all sorts of shit in there | 20:43 | 
| arrrghhh | nope, stupid user error. | 20:44 | 
| arrrghhh | booting | 20:44 | 
| stinebd | nah i'm pretty sure it's gremlins | 20:45 | 
| arrrghhh | jogball-backlight | 20:45 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, ^^? | 20:45 | 
| stinebd | it's that thing that lights up | 20:45 | 
| stinebd | when you touch it | 20:45 | 
| arrrghhh | i know | 20:45 | 
| arrrghhh | he was asking me to ls -l /sys/class/leds | 20:45 | 
| stinebd | then why you ask | 20:46 | 
| arrrghhh | and look for something about trackball | 20:46 | 
| stinebd | k | 20:46 | 
| arrrghhh | that's what i found | 20:46 | 
| d3tul3 | oh yeah | 20:47 | 
| d3tul3 | that guy | 20:47 | 
| d3tul3 | forgot what i called it | 20:47 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:47 | 
| stinebd | anybody here played with amd e-series? | 20:47 | 
| arrrghhh | not yet | 20:47 | 
| stinebd | my netbook battery died so i'm looking to upgrade soon | 20:47 | 
| stinebd | don't want to get another atom piece of crap | 20:48 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, i seem to get the jogball when charging. w00t | 20:48 | 
| d3tul3 | how about when you unplug and turn phone off | 20:49 | 
| d3tul3 | as in not supposed to have anything up | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | nada | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | yup | 20:49 | 
| d3tul3 | sweet | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | notification tiem | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | fawk | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | wifi error | 20:49 | 
| stinebd | probably user error | 20:50 | 
| d3tul3 | hm lsmod | 20:50 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:50 | 
| arrrghhh | should there be a wlan | 20:50 | 
| d3tul3 | without the "hm" :) | 20:50 | 
| stinebd | yeah | 20:50 | 
| arrrghhh | insmod wlan.ko? | 20:50 | 
| stinebd | well there should be if wlan was up | 20:50 | 
| stinebd | heh | 20:50 | 
| d3tul3 | perhaps the modules didn't unpack | 20:50 | 
| stinebd | ls -l /lib/modules | 20:51 | 
| d3tul3 | try insmod | 20:51 | 
| arrrghhh | stinebd, it's there | 20:51 | 
| arrrghhh | well | 20:51 | 
| arrrghhh | i did /system/lib/modules | 20:51 | 
| stinebd | is the symlink there? | 20:51 | 
| stinebd | for uname -r | 20:51 | 
| stinebd | that would indicate they likely got unpacked | 20:51 | 
| arrrghhh | yea there's a symlink to /system/lib/modules | 20:51 | 
| stinebd | in /system/lib/modules you should have a symlink named after the current release which points to /system/lib/modules | 20:52 | 
| stinebd | or /lib/modules | 20:52 | 
| stinebd | or something | 20:52 | 
| arrrghhh | insmod: can't insert '/system/lib/modules/wlan.ko': invalid module format | 20:52 | 
| stinebd | k | 20:52 | 
| d3tul3 | you on ubuntu | 20:52 | 
| d3tul3 | ? | 20:52 | 
| arrrghhh | wth? | 20:52 | 
| stinebd | they didn't get unpacked then | 20:52 | 
| d3tul3 | can you pull that back to your desktop | 20:52 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, no... | 20:52 | 
| d3tul3 | and do "strings wlan.ko | grep magic" | 20:53 | 
| stinebd | dmesg will tell you | 20:53 | 
| stinebd | in the event of a magic mismatch | 20:53 | 
| arrrghhh | wlan: version magic '2.6.27.46-01348-g9de837f preempt mod_unload ARMv6 ' should be '2.6.27.46-01350-g2ac34da preempt mod_unload ARMv6 ' | 20:54 | 
| d3tul3 | needs to be dirty | 20:54 | 
| stinebd | ? | 20:54 | 
| d3tul3 | nevermind | 20:54 | 
| d3tul3 | yeah the modules didn't unpack | 20:55 | 
| arrrghhh | modules in the directory are 1350 | 20:55 | 
| arrrghhh | wth | 20:55 | 
| d3tul3 | errr i may not have packed wlan | 20:57 | 
| arrrghhh | i can't test notifications then... | 20:57 | 
| arrrghhh | at least i'm not sure how i can | 20:57 | 
| stinebd | rig up some insane bluetooth reverse tethering mechanism | 20:57 | 
| rpierce99 | write an app | 20:57 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:57 | 
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, dirty way | 20:58 | 
| d3tul3 | echo "1" > sys/class/leds/jogbal*/brightness | 20:58 | 
| arrrghhh | i was gonna say | 20:58 | 
| arrrghhh | is there something i can echo | 20:58 | 
| d3tul3 | damn why didn't wlan build | 20:58 | 
| stinebd | arrrghhh: no offense but i'm going to ignore your friend request on facebook | 21:03 | 
| arrrghhh | aw. | 21:03 | 
| stinebd | or as you're known on the meatwebs, sharon kotsokovsky | 21:03 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:04 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, boom | 21:06 | 
| arrrghhh | works | 21:06 | 
| d3tul3 | 2 3 4 should also do stuff | 21:07 | 
| d3tul3 | 0 resets | 21:07 | 
| stinebd | how bout 255? | 21:07 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:07 | 
| stinebd | full speed ahead mr sulu | 21:07 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't know if it's because i mucked with it | 21:07 | 
| arrrghhh | or what | 21:07 | 
| stinebd | it is | 21:07 | 
| arrrghhh | but it's doing that 'breathe' effect when it's sleeping. | 21:08 | 
| d3tul3 | alright so trace through your last few steps | 21:08 | 
| arrrghhh | well i echo'd 1 to that /sys location | 21:08 | 
| arrrghhh | then plugged it in | 21:08 | 
| arrrghhh | unplugged it | 21:09 | 
| arrrghhh | and put it to sleep | 21:09 | 
| arrrghhh | i wonder if manually echo'ing f-ed it up? | 21:09 | 
| d3tul3 | ok do it again and grab a getlog | 21:09 | 
| arrrghhh | do what again. put it to sleep or echo 1 or the whole schebang? | 21:10 | 
| d3tul3 | no, it's an issue that i saw once before, there's something in the pre-existing sleep code that combines with the "1" (ROTATE) to produce a BREATHE | 21:10 | 
| d3tul3 | echo 0 | 21:10 | 
| d3tul3 | echo 1 | 21:10 | 
| d3tul3 | unplug | 21:10 | 
| d3tul3 | let sleep | 21:10 | 
| arrrghhh | k | 21:11 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:11 | 
| arrrghhh | sure enough | 21:12 | 
| arrrghhh | alright, pulling logs | 21:12 | 
| arrrghhh | crap. i clicked pastebin, that won't work. | 21:13 | 
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, when you just plug (this should set the led to charge) and then unplug, let sleep you dont get breathe right? | 21:14 | 
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/pptAkzpu | 21:15 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, incorrect | 21:15 | 
| arrrghhh | it still goes back to breathe while in sleep now | 21:15 | 
| arrrghhh | AFAIK if i echo 0 it'll go back to "how it should" | 21:16 | 
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| d3tul3 | echo 0 will turn the LED off, then unplug and you are saying no breathe | 21:16 | 
| arrrghhh | i believe so | 21:17 | 
| arrrghhh | let me verify | 21:17 | 
| arrrghhh | damnit | 21:18 | 
| arrrghhh | i lie | 21:18 | 
| arrrghhh | it stopped doing the 'breathe' when plugged in | 21:18 | 
| arrrghhh | i unplugged, powered off | 21:18 | 
| arrrghhh | and after it went to sleep, goes back to breathe. | 21:18 | 
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| arrrghhh | want moar logs? i got to run, will be back in 20-30. | 21:18 | 
| d3tul3 | thanks this should be good | 21:19 | 
| arrrghhh | k | 21:21 | 
| arrrghhh | bbl | 21:25 | 
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/RaphTest/ker%2Bmod.tar.gz (no wlan here either) | 21:43 | 
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, isn't there a bug for raph/diam users where the keyboard stays ON when in sleep | 21:58 | 
| d3tul3 | well if nothing i think i found where the problem is : https://gitorious.org/~detule/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/detules-linux-msm/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.27/drivers/i2c/chips/microp-ksc.c#line242 | 21:59 | 
| d3tul3 | hopefully this will also make a difference for the jogbal | 22:01 | 
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| arrrghhh | ok | 23:17 | 
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| stinebd | really not looking forward to tomorrow | 23:32 | 
| arrrghhh | ? | 23:33 | 
| stinebd | first day of work since my boss died | 23:34 | 
| stinebd | gonna be rough | 23:34 | 
| arrrghhh | ah. i didn't realize it was your boss who died... | 23:34 | 
| stinebd | more friend than boss | 23:35 | 
| stinebd | much more | 23:35 | 
| arrrghhh | ah | 23:36 | 
| stinebd | he didn't work weekends but he was always there anyway just to hang out with me about half the day | 23:37 | 
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| arrrghhh | damn.. | 23:37 | 
| stinebd | bit of a workaholic | 23:37 | 
| stinebd | came with the job though | 23:38 | 
| arrrghhh | my condolences. work's gonna be tough for sure now. | 23:40 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, i just booted and it's already doing the breathe when sleeping :/ | 23:40 | 
| d3tul3 | what's happening with the keyboard | 23:41 | 
| arrrghhh | completely backwards lol | 23:41 | 
| d3tul3 | damn | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | well this is odd | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | it worked at first | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i started typing on it tho to turn it on | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | then when i closed it, went back to backwards | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | kb bl on when closed | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | and it turns off when you open it | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | fade in/out works tho | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | now it works correctly again. | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | wtf | 23:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i didn't do anything other than let it sit | 23:42 | 
| d3tul3 | the jogball is messed up though right | 23:43 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:43 | 
| arrrghhh | inverted again | 23:43 | 
| raymonddull | you're not going to like me,but pretty sure its not phone specific again,my old intercept did that,a LOT | 23:43 | 
| arrrghhh | it's just flipping back and forth | 23:43 | 
| raymonddull | closed it'd be on,open was off | 23:43 | 
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, stfu | 23:43 | 
| raymonddull | and its a native device | 23:43 | 
| arrrghhh | this doesn't happen on RHOD | 23:43 | 
| raymonddull | I'm just saying,its not unheard of even on native devices | 23:44 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, yea... jogball still breathes when sleepin | 23:44 | 
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, from the factory like that? | 23:44 | 
| d3tul3 | cool pastebin the getlog and let's call it a night | 23:44 | 
| arrrghhh | k | 23:44 | 
| raymonddull | arrrghhh: yeah | 23:45 | 
| raymonddull | its the moment's retarded little brother though,same cpu/ram,240x400 lcd instead of 480x320 amoled,a crappier camera,and worse touch panel for the same price as the moment. | 23:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:46 | 
| arrrghhh | it is a samsung. | 23:46 | 
| raymonddull | yeah | 23:49 | 
| raymonddull | its this samsung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ixDe9BJ8Xk | 23:50 | 
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, http://pastebin.com/T6DJ89sn | 23:50 | 
| d3tul3 | that log is all sorts of off | 23:57 | 
| arrrghhh | oh? | 23:58 | 
| arrrghhh | did i fubar something | 23:58 | 
| arrrghhh | you didn't redo the lights.msm7k file no? | 23:59 | 
| arrrghhh | just new kernel..>? | 23:59 | 
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