Tuesday, 2011-08-16

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xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, David Marseilles (fortunz), who says: A little coin in honor of detule's switch for the led debug =)02:02
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turbolapinwho can spend some time with me learning me the kernel's basic? :)03:36
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xda-Squirrelsrawr10:24
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xda-Squirrels>.< rebooting into winmo, needs mah cellular dataz lol10:43
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Detuleemwe: sorry to bug you but  if i wanted to read from the led device, would i still read at the same buf[0] as when i write to it?11:20
emwewhat are you trying to read?11:20
Detulebuf[2] (led status i.e. blink)11:20
Detuleright now i have a blink_led_get function but it returns 0 - i was thinking about implementing one properly11:21
ryannathanswhy do you need to read?11:22
emwei think that won't work. never seen a write command and read command over the same "cmd id" (which is buf[0])11:22
Detuleyeah i thought not, i was thinking about experimenting plus minus 01 on the cmd id but the kernel takes too damn long to compile on my machine11:24
Detuleit's ok i don't think i need to read it11:24
ryannathansas i said ;D11:24
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f00bar80I'm using FRX07 on RHOD2, asking if anybody got WIFI tethering working? , I've tried different tethering Apps. None of them is working.11:32
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xda-Squirrelsso many freaking guids11:58
xda-Squirrelsthey have guids for guids11:58
xda-Squirrelsbastardized form of obfuscation11:59
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* Xofrats kicks Squirrel in the nutz12:22
Detuleemwe: i just saw your dbgfs led set call -> could have saved myself some trouble yesterday if i checked your tree first12:24
Detuleon the other hand i learnt a thing or two about bit operations so it was not a lost cause12:25
emweDetule: i am basically learning day by day, too. and yes, sometimes it's a pita to discover something one would have liked to known days earlier. ;)12:26
xda-Squirrelsis that like an auto kick me in the nuts? ass12:27
Detulehurray blinking notifications working with a patched liblights12:27
xda-Squirrels*/stab*12:27
emwecongrats Detule! specific blink hook or how?12:28
XofratsIt's like a /trout, except squirrel eat nuts, so it's an auto kick in the mouth12:28
XofratsDetule:12:28
Detuleyeah a hook for amber and red12:28
XofratsSend me the patch when you're finished12:28
XofratsI'll let the eager users dogfood it ^^)12:29
DetuleXofrats: it wont work without a patched liblights and i am not sure you can bind mount over frx0712:29
XofratsWhere's the file?12:29
DetuleXofrats: you would have to build your own system immage12:29
Detulesys/lib/hw12:29
Detulesystem/lib/hw12:29
emweyou can rw,remount /system and adb push to /system/lib/hw then12:29
Detulewouldn't frx07 complain? i was under the impression that frx07 was signed blahblahblah12:30
XofratsNo, /system/lib/hw is already bindmounted12:30
Xofrats/dev/block/loop2 on /system/lib/hw type ext2 (ro)12:30
XofratsHell no12:30
Detuleoh right i am probably remembering something about specific .apks i've tried to bind over12:31
Xofrats        echo "Froyo build detected"12:32
Xofrats        RCSCRIPT="froyo"12:32
Xofrats        RCCONFIG="froyo"12:32
Xofrats        mount --bind /lib/froyo/hw /system/lib/hw12:32
Detulethat's ok in that case you can just bind it over system/lib/hw (that's where i have)12:32
XofratsWell, send me both files when you're done12:33
XofratsOK, according to Ted T'so's git I'm up-to-date on the .27 ext4 tree12:33
Detulesure12:33
XofratsSo I don't think I can fixup ext4 anymore12:33
XofratsI was wondering why I didn't see options for amss in menuconfig, forgot I had to ARCH=arm12:39
XofratsWhat's the difference between the kernel's amss version support and the actual amss on-board?12:40
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turbolapinwho can spend some time with me learning me the kernel's basic? :)12:51
* xda-Squirrels is a n00b.12:53
XofratsYou cannot be learned12:54
Xofrats<yoda>Teach, I can. Learn, you must</yoda>12:55
emweXofrats: amss version selection (as long as it's a wince amss selected) does nothing. all select CONFIG_AMSS_VERSION_WINCE which is used on #ifdefs12:55
XofratsHmmm, so what happened when I selected 6.1.25 which apparently isn't a wince amss?12:55
Xofrats5.1.xx and 6.1.50 is the only one listed12:55
emwe6125 is a wince amss12:55
emwe6225 is not12:55
emwetopa and rhod have 612512:56
emwebut as i said, they select the global define and differences between the amss versions are detected/handled/extract at runtime via amss_version.c12:57
emwe(unlike the compile time macros for the other amss)12:57
XofratsI see 5.2.00 and 6.1.50 as the only wince compatible, weird...  at least according to menuconfig12:58
XofratsOh well...12:58
turbolapinXofrats why i cannot be learned? :P13:01
emweXofrats: it's just not correctly reflected in the KConfig13:02
XofratsVe do nein sprechen bad English.13:04
XofratsBTW, quick git question13:05
Xofratsif I have a branch, and I do a "git pull origin master", does the changes get merged or did I just do a pull on the master branch only?13:05
Detuleturbolapin: if you have specific kernel questions ask away in an open channel, if someone knows the answer you may get an answer....on the other hand asking for a commitement from a tutor is not likely to work13:07
DetuleXofrats: git pull is a combination of git fetch and git merge13:07
XofratsOK, good13:07
Detuleturbolapin: and bad english is not a problem either13:08
f00bar80I'm using FRX07 on RHOD2, asking if anybody got WIFI tethering working? , I've tried different tethering Apps. None of them is working.13:09
XofratsWifi tethering works13:09
XofratsDon't use tethering apps13:09
XofratsAnd what's a rhod2?13:09
turbolapinDetule: i want to start kernel developement and i was hoping someone could help me in the beginning as i don't know from where to start. also, i didn't say that my english is bad :D13:09
f00bar80Xofrats, RHOD21013:09
XofratsDid you try the native one?13:10
XofratsI've used it before, albeit on frx05ish13:10
Detuleturbolapin: a good place is to visit the publicly available git kernel tree and look at specific commits to see what other people have done/are working on: start there spend some time and then find something you want to work on13:11
f00bar80Xofrats, no i didn't , i'll do, but this'll bridge 3G over wifi ?13:11
XofratsUhh, nothing "bridges"13:11
XofratsTethering is tethering, it does snat13:12
XofratsThe only thing native won't do is WEP, but you really shouldn't be using WEP anyway13:13
* Xofrats waits for kernel to compile on his amish snail13:14
turbolapinDetule: ok i'll see what i can do. thanks13:15
Xofratsturbo: BTW, I was referencing your "learning me" with all my comments, it's "teaching"13:17
f00bar80Xofrats, what if i turned on wifi tethering and still i can't see the hotspot from my laptop ?13:20
XofratsGo into the settings, and just click ok13:21
XofratsThere's a bug that doesn't set the settings on first try13:21
f00bar80Xofrats, click ok on what13:22
XofratsYou see the ap settings?13:24
f00bar80yea13:24
turbolapinXofrats: sure i understood my mistake that's why i answered with a ":P" at the end.13:24
XofratsHmmm, or maybe not...13:24
* Xofrats wonders if it's due to the frx07 wlan changes13:25
XofratsNope, I do see it13:25
XofratsGo into the settings, where it says stuff about AndroidAP, change the ssid, enable security, click ok13:26
XofratsNext time, just go into that menu and hit ok without changing stuff13:26
XofratsFor the ap to pop up13:27
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turbolapindifference between git clone and git init is that with git clone you download a git while with git init you start your own git from scratch?13:40
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XofratsHey emwe13:43
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XofratsGrrrr14:07
XofratsHow can I tell git not to increment the build # on a minor branch change14:08
XofratsGlemsom, you there?14:12
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xda-Squirrelsreally dont understand what this old vb6 code is trying to do14:21
xda-Squirrelsmore accurately, dont understand why its doing what its doing14:21
XofratsMmmm, vb14:23
XofratsIt eats programmers for lunch14:23
GlemSomXofrats, Yeap I'm here...14:23
xda-Squirrelswell part of my job is to rewrite these old conversion programs from vb6 to c# but this function being called doesnt make any sense to me14:23
XofratsGlem: Tell me if it's possible. I have git branch of 2.6.27, I need to make minor patches and commit it to git14:24
XofratsSo I have two branch, yours and mine, but when I make the patch and commit, the build # increases14:24
XofratsWhich is what I don't want, since I want it to reflect the "official" build you have14:24
XofratsWhat is the best way of doing it short of resorting to -dirty?14:24
GlemSomxda-Squirrels, heh, reminds me when I needed to do a minor patch - to some code I did not write myself... Turned out the variable $d did not correspond correctly with $e while $x was not set... or something really retarded like that.. :/14:25
xda-Squirrelsyeah14:26
xda-Squirrelswell most of the codes i am porting deals with ms sql and collections14:26
xda-Squirrelsand it looks like this funtion is taking in "Value" and then "PatientResultID" and for 20 times, appending PatientResultID as PatientResultID1, ... but patientresultid should be the same every loop14:28
xda-Squirrelsso wtf is the point14:28
GlemSomXofrats, -dirty is fine for testing your own patches, imo...14:28
XofratsNo, it's for the compcache patch in 0.5.414:28
xda-Squirrelscan just reference index 0 (or 1, whichever patientresultid ends up being) rather than count up and get the same result everytime14:28
GlemSomXofrats, You've made a patch for compcache ?14:28
XofratsNo, compcache has a patch for you14:29
XofratsIn soviet russia14:29
XofratsLook in /patches14:29
GlemSomI think I'm misunderstanding the question here...14:30
GlemSomOr... I'm confused as hell at least... :P14:30
XofratsOK, I have a local git branch of the "official" 2.6.2714:30
XofratsI make my own branch so I can apply the compcache patch to the kernel14:30
XofratsBut when I do so, the build (1346) increases14:31
XofratsWhich is what I want to avoid14:31
XofratsBecause I want to say "ok this kernel is based on the build xxx"14:32
XofratsI've already fiddled with the version so there isn't a question about whose kernel it is14:32
XofratsBut what I do want to avoid is a +1 in build14:32
XofratsBecause I had to patch and commit14:32
GlemSomOk, I see...14:32
GlemSomSo, you wanna hack the internal build number...14:32
GlemSomdefined when compiling the kernel14:33
XofratsSomething like that14:33
XofratsThat or convince git not to increase the version somehow14:33
GlemSomOn top of my head, I don't know... But... should be quite easy to track down..14:33
* Xofrats wonders if there's a git channel on freenode14:34
* xda-Squirrels wonders why people do some of the things they do.14:35
XofratsBecause they aren't foxes, they are people14:35
GlemSomthe git part is done in scripts/setlocalversion14:35
xda-Squirrelsfoxes are pretty sweet14:35
XofratsI'll go ask #git14:38
GlemSomXofrats, it's ".version" in the root of the kernel tree. The script "scripts/mkversion" reads (and adds +1) to the current version defined14:39
GlemSomXofrats, So, simple manually edit .version14:39
XofratsActually, that just applies to the uname build#14:39
XofratsNot the git build14:39
GlemSomOhh, I thought that was what you wanted to edit..14:40
XofratsLinux ubuntu 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu <- that #4614:40
Xofrats2.6.27.46-fox-11081514:40
XofratsErrr, wrong kernel14:40
Xofratsv2.6.27-1347-g60ab73f <- that's what I want to edit14:40
GlemSomOk, that would be in "setlocalversion" then... But, this is intented to reflect the git version you're using... I don't see the point in faking that ?14:41
XofratsIt's not to fake, it's to patch stuff that the autobuild forgot14:42
GlemSomBut the autobuild builds directly from the tree... No additional patches there...14:42
XofratsThere is14:42
XofratsWell, to make compcache better anyway14:42
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GlemSomI don't patch compcache into the kernel tree, I compile compcache outside14:44
GlemSomThough telling compcache where to find the kernel source14:44
Xofrats-rw-r--r-- 1 starfox starfox 4200 2009-10-17 02:52 patch_swap_notifier_generic_2.6.25.diff14:45
XofratsThat's what's in the compcache tarball14:45
GlemSomOk, which is actually a patch for the kernelsource (as far as I can see)14:47
f00bar80connecting my phone to pc using usb cable , this get the battery charged ?14:53
XofratsYes14:54
DetuleXofrats: e-mail sent14:55
XofratsGot it, thanks14:56
Detuleemwe: before you get testing on topa let me send you the blinking kernel patch along with the patched liblights14:56
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XofratsI just ended up using htc-msm-2.6.27 branch, patching the file, and editing setlocalversion15:06
XofratsHopefully git merge won't complain on next revision15:08
emweXofrats: wth are you going to accomplish? what's wrong with the increasing commitnumber?15:10
emweyou can go with your own working branch which tracks the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch and you'll see the commits ahead with git status e.g.15:11
Xofratsemwe: because it needs to be on-parity with the autobuild15:11
emwebecause?15:11
XofratsJust so users don't say "I was using 1346 and blahblahblah happened"15:11
XofratsAnd it happens that it's based on 134515:12
GlemSomUsers WILL say that anyway! ;)15:12
XofratsI know15:12
emwehonenstly i wouldn't care at all.15:12
XofratsI just don't want to explain to user that their uname -r is +1 from the autobuild15:16
XofratsKeeps the confusion down15:16
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Xofratsfishingmedic: I just replied to you15:20
XofratsWait about an hour15:20
XofratsI have a vanilla kernel with ext4 support15:20
fishingmediccool, I was just posting in the thread to arrrghhh.  I'll try rebooting and see if it still FC's15:21
Xofratsext4 seems a lot more sensitive to oc15:21
XofratsI'm about to have to nuke my card, because I'm seeing stuff in LAST_KMSG I don't like15:22
emweXofrats: btw, running 2.6.35.14 with ext4 data.img. fine so far. can't judge any difference yet. fighting other issues.15:22
fishingmedicShould I remove any settings of that sort?15:22
XofratsIt would help in tracking down, or just wait for the vanilla kernel15:22
fishingmedick15:22
XofratsI would at least bump down any oc'ing a notch15:23
fishingmedicI removed any OC in there and only added whatever you noted in the OP15:24
XofratsOh and read the part about how to create a bigger data.ext415:25
fishingmedicyeah I saw that too, thanks15:26
fishingmediccan you tell it what size to make the data.ext4 or how does it determine what size to make it?15:28
XofratsIt uses 256M as default15:28
XofratsChange [size] to whatever MB you want15:28
XofratsWell, /init uses 256M15:29
fishingmedicyeah, just realized that... sorry15:29
turbolapinback in the time in GBX0A i had backed up my sdcard, formated it but when i restored everything in it, i was getting FC from almost any program i was trying to open.15:30
turbolapindoes anyone know why that happened?15:30
XofratsIf you use restore app+data, that can happen15:31
turbolapinexactly that's what i did. i backup up the data.ext2 and restored it after the format15:31
GlemSomXofrats, Are you starting another autobuild service ?15:32
turbolapinsince the data.ext2 is just a file why did it happen?15:32
XofratsNo, it's a manual build service15:32
XofratsI press ze big red button15:32
GlemSomlink pls? :)15:32
XofratsSure, it's starfox@localhost15:33
GlemSompfft...15:33
XofratsAnd using the keyboard-to-chair interface15:33
xda-Squirrelslol15:34
XofratsI'm just making a vanilla one just so that more ppl can use ext4 and (maybe) a slightly improved performance15:34
xda-Squirrelsi started an auto build froamework for all the major components but my bandwidth made it too limiting15:34
XofratsI actually do have a site I could use via godaddy15:35
xda-Squirrelsi auto build 2.6.27 and 2.6.35 but i didnt bother with .39 and froze my work on auto build system images15:35
xda-Squirrelsusing perl15:35
XofratsNice thing about ifconfig kac0 is that error:nana15:35
XofratsNice thing about ifconfig kac0 is that error:nan15:35
xda-Squirrelsi prefer ba:nanas15:35
xda-Squirrels;p15:35
GlemSomWell, I bought a VPS a few weeks ago - and was hoping to migrate my buildservice... Though, lately the performance has been horrible... So I might drop that idea... :/15:35
XofratsAnd it's self-correcting too15:36
xda-Squirrelsif i had more upstream bandwidth I might have continued my project for auto-build everything lol15:36
xda-Squirrelsright now it still auto builds kernels at 20 minute intervals between checks15:37
xda-Squirrels0,20,40 * * * * /home/xda-neonblu/androidkernel_2.6.27/update-compile.pl >/dev/null 2>&115:38
xda-Squirrels10,30,50 * * * * /home/xda-neonblu/androidkernel_2.6.35/update-compile.pl >/dev/null 2>&115:38
xda-Squirrelsthat and i was too lazy to setup the environment for system image building ;p15:38
XofratsThing I hate about git is that when stuff changes it builds the kernel from scratch because something.h changed15:39
XofratsThat's 1hr for this machine15:39
xda-Squirrelsdoesnt do that to me15:39
xda-Squirrelscompile on update takes like a minute for me15:39
XofratsHmmm15:40
xda-Squirrelsif i make clean, then it takes like 20min15:40
xda-Squirrelsi forget, been a while15:40
GlemSomxda-Squirrels, Actually I do make clean before I build.... It was recommended to do like 10 years ago... When Linux was younger... :P15:40
XofratsYeah, make menuconfig; make clean; make dep; make zImage.. blah15:41
xda-Squirrelsi initially didnt do that because of the risk of thrashing the script but I added a check to the perl script to not run if its already running15:41
GlemSomWell, make clean before menuconfig ofc... ;)15:41
xda-Squirrelsi suppose i can readd that lol15:41
GlemSomxda-Squirrels, Maybe we should stick our heads together.. If I get my VPS running.... ?  So we can improve the current autobuild-service...15:43
xda-Squirrelsperhaps15:43
xda-Squirrelsi can give you my current perl script and codes15:43
xda-Squirrelsand i can work on actually finish the image auto build15:43
GlemSomxda-Squirrels, I've re-written most of it to use MySQL (instead of sqlite)... That was fairly easy... And most of the webstuff is not object orientated... But... STILL needs a lot of work.. :/15:43
xda-Squirrelsi use mssql at work but its mostly the same15:44
GlemSomnot == now15:44
xda-Squirrelsmost of my script just dumps the text directly to a txt file15:44
xda-Squirrelscompile.log and detail.log ;p15:44
xda-Squirrelsshould be hard to integrate writing it to db though.15:44
GlemSomxda-Squirrels, I don't do logging in the DB... But I have buildconfigs there.. So it's easy to setup a new build...15:45
xda-Squirrelsuncommented "make clean >> $OUTPUT_PATH/compile.log 2>&1"15:45
xda-Squirrelsahh15:45
xda-Squirrelsinteresting15:45
xda-Squirrelshmm my .35 perl script is running right now15:46
xda-Squirrelsclearly im going to have to add a check to see how longs its been running lol15:47
xda-Squirrelsps hs it pegged at 'Jul14'15:47
GlemSomheh15:47
GlemSomYou're compiling in a 286 machine... ? :P15:48
xda-Squirrelsi think it got hung up on something15:48
xda-Squirrelsit was still running git pull15:48
GlemSomgit pull sometimes fails...  I've seen that a few times...15:49
xda-Squirrelsits a VIA 1500 MHz Esther Single Core15:49
Xofrats286 could probably compile faster than my rhod15:49
GlemSomand so does git check15:49
xda-SquirrelsIm likely going to add a check, if update-compile.run (my check file) was created over 6 hours ago, abort and retry15:49
xda-Squirrelscause it shouldnt take that long15:49
xda-Squirrelswell that explains why my last .35 build was "20110711-105018_2.6.35.7-92707-g0f43155"15:50
Xofrats  DEPMOD  2.6.27.46-fox-01346-g8704c3315:54
XofratsWoot15:54
XofratsI'm compiling on two machines, this is sad...15:59
XofratsAn Atom N450 and a MSM7201A15:59
fishingmedicarrrghhh: when I missed the call, it rang like normal and then went to VM, didn't just go directly to VM, all while I was looking at the freaking phone waiting for it to ring (called myself to test it). It's strange, it's hit and miss16:00
XofratsOutputting files to /home/starfox/htc-msm-linux-fox-20110816.tar.bz216:01
Xofratsmodules-2.6.27.46-fox-01346-g8704c33.tar.gz16:01
XofratszImage-2.6.27.46-fox-01346-g8704c3316:01
XofratsBoom, done16:01
Xofratsfishing: Should I dcc it or do you want a url?16:03
fishingmedicwhichever16:04
fishingmedicXofrats: send me a url, issues here16:09
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XofratsI need to reboot my machine, I'll post it in a bit16:13
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Xofratshttp://db.tt/RhUlSDd16:17
XofratsThat's for you fishing16:17
Detuleemwe: in the spirit of removing all led triggers from the kernel, i think this patch should be reverted http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/07ebe622fe1285b2d7e9a5a44298ba98bda624db16:17
emweDetule: i am with you. need to see how much userland could act as a replacement for these calls. doubt it can by default.16:19
emwebut who cares.16:19
Detuleyeah at worst we temporarily lose the back speaker led functionality until such time that userland can be enhanced....until you told me last week, i had no clue there even was a led back there16:24
Tandyman100Lemme guess: Rhodium development?16:27
xda-SquirrelsRAPH forever! (lol i j/k, raphs suck wang)16:31
xda-Squirrelscant wait to replace mine16:32
emweDetule: yeah, i am with you in that respect. we need caps/fn userland extension as well. :)16:32
emweDetule: htc did so. we "just" need to adopt from cyanogen. which reminds me... i should commit these little gb light related changes.16:33
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Detulecan i email you the patch16:37
emwea refurbished version of the one you sent to the ML?16:39
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emweDetule: would propose you post it up there with a comment/request to revert the one you mentioned. as i am pretty new to rhod... does that patch for reversal actually do some good?16:40
fishingmedicXofrats: still FC on initial boot16:40
emweDetule: one argument pro reversal would be that we drop that snd_state hacks soon i hope and it will have no effect anymore anyway as all will be userland controlled.16:40
emweDetule: on the other hadn, if acoustic is going in, that stuff is being removed anyway.16:41
Tandyman100Wow. XDAndroid Froyo on an overclocked Rhodium is absolutely godlike.16:41
emwehaha16:41
emwe<3>[  177.931549] adsp: find_adsp_module_by_name failed!  <<< now plz somebody tell me what's fscked up on 2.6.35.1416:41
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Detulek emwe i'll post the new microp-klt.c patch that adds blink support as well as the liblights patch to the ML as soon as i correct my tree for the original patch (figure out what to call debug_mask and default it to 0)16:45
Detulei am out16:45
emwehave fun and thanks for working on that.16:48
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Tandyman100Is there something I'm missing here?17:03
Tandyman100I have FRX07, overclocked, on a T-Mobile TP2. How do I set it up so I can actually text and call on it?17:04
Tandyman100...it's probably in a FAQ or something, isn't it?17:04
Tandyman100brb, looking...17:04
PangOSheheh17:04
PangOSisn't that auto17:05
Tandyman100I dunno17:05
PangOSor is it different for cdma17:05
Tandyman100but it's got the five bars with the little x over them17:05
Tandyman100T-Mobile is GSM17:05
xda-Squirrelsit should just work17:05
Tandyman100Hmm.17:05
PangOSso I thought17:05
xda-Squirrelsafaik only the CDMA RAPH/DIAM had issues with the radio17:06
PangOSit doesn't?17:06
xda-SquirrelsRHOD gsm and cdma should work fine17:06
Tandyman100Well I guess I'll try again.17:06
PangOSthis is so sick17:06
* Tandyman100 directs PangOS to the barf bags17:06
xda-Squirrels;p17:06
xda-Squirrelsk brb again, gotta do work while at work17:07
xda-Squirrelsdeadlines are coming up ;p17:07
PangOSmy batt is on 2 days17:07
BulitPrufoop17:07
BulitPrufjust a quick question tho17:07
xda-Squirrels?17:08
BulitPrufdoes anyone know, when it reported that a widget is using "x" memory is all that being used? or is most17:08
BulitPruf or some swapped?17:08
xda-Squirrelsnot sure17:09
PangOSa digital clock widget is saying 11.5MB17:09
PangOSI'm not gonna use it if I hafta sacrifice that much phys mem17:10
PangOSI'm confusing maself17:10
PangOSlol17:11
PangOSwhat do u call irc split peronality17:12
Tandyman100Cox Syndrome :P17:12
Tandyman100(not really)17:13
xda-Squirrelsits probably the total memory from all source it is consuming17:13
xda-Squirrelsbut i cant say for sure17:13
xda-Squirrelsbe it physical or otherwise17:13
* BulitPruf puts down the Rhod17:13
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Tandyman100Perhaps it's just Android has a rubbish radio and I get no signal here because of it.17:14
Tandyman100because I get a healthy two bars in winmo, has Android been shown to get worse signal?17:14
BulitPrufhow much is a min donation?17:15
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[acl]who der ?17:21
emwe;)17:21
emwe[acl]: adsp isn't probed. that's why the sound issue for me...17:22
[acl]damn17:22
xda-Squirrelsrawr17:23
[acl]xda-Squirrels: hello my good man. what did you test for me ?17:24
emwe[acl]: aha... on "good" boot, rpc devices are published before adsp is init'ed and thus probe works, on "bad" boot it's vice versa.17:25
[acl]interesting.. and it happens randomly?17:26
emweyap17:26
xda-Squirrelsyou never told me how ;)17:26
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[acl]xda-Squirrels: what was i supposed to tell you?17:27
xda-Squirrelsi told ya i was at work for another 50min then you were gone by the time i got home17:27
[acl]forgot17:27
emwe[acl]: it's within 1s and 2s.17:27
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xda-Squirrelsway to be acl17:27
xda-Squirrelslol17:28
xda-Squirrelsi spammed his pm and he d/cs17:28
xda-Squirrelsi'll remember that17:28
xda-Squirrels;)17:28
emwetime to debug tomorrow. laters :)17:28
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[acl]fucking ey.. connection going ape shit17:29
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xda-Squirrelsyou d/ced right when i dumped our pm log into a pm with you lol17:30
xda-Squirrelslinked you instead this time17:30
[acl]lol17:31
[acl]ok so u have time now?17:31
xda-Squirrelslike yestersay, im still at work for another 30ish min lol17:31
[acl]cool17:31
[acl]ill try to be on tonight17:31
xda-Squirrelskk17:31
[acl]and hunt you down17:31
[acl]like a dog17:31
xda-Squirrelsi idle in here all day17:31
xda-Squirrelseven when im in tf2 i have this irc on my other monitor17:31
[acl]its simple actually17:31
xda-Squirrelsso... i should see you spamming my pm17:31
[acl]you ever hareconsole ?17:32
xda-Squirrelssweet, i like simple shit usually lol17:32
xda-Squirrelsnope, adb but not haretconsole17:32
[acl]damn17:32
xda-Squirrelsnever had a reason to17:32
xda-Squirrelsi can look that up17:32
[acl]its simple enough17:32
[acl]you will console to haret and you can run commands while on winmo17:32
[acl]thats how we reverse some stuff17:33
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[acl]once you console in just do the following17:33
[acl]addlist mmutrace 0xb2300000 417:33
[acl]addlist mmutrace 0xb230000c 417:33
[acl]wirq 317:33
[acl]and it will dumb some traces i need17:33
xda-Squirrelskk17:33
[acl]merci17:34
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xda-Squirrelsalmost done porting this module of VB6 code to C#17:36
xda-Squirrelsyay... *aneurism*17:36
phhhappy for you.17:36
phhI guess.17:36
[acl]xda-Squirrels: dang.. vb6? jebus .17:36
xda-SquirrelsYeah, well a lot of the people who wrote this garbage are either gone or still code in this crap and our new leader of this department mandated that we convert it all to C# (a position i support)17:37
xda-SquirrelsI have 1 and 3/4ths of the common conversion projects converted17:38
xda-Squirrelsi wrote this one im working on completely from scratch without touching the vb6 code but this one module is incredibly complex so im just porting it directly, changing things as needed just to make it work17:39
phh'conversion projects converted'17:39
phhwait what ?17:39
xda-Squirrelsyep17:39
xda-Squirrelsthis vb6 code converts a product called HVMS (MS SQL based Vet software) to our product's ms sql db format17:39
xda-Squirrelswell the project is so old and broken, i need to convert the conversion project ;)17:39
xda-Squirrelsthis particular section in the db has guids for guids for guids for guids...literally17:40
xda-Squirrelshard to keep everything in order, much less write the module for it so im just taking this vb6 code which im assuming works and porting it, as is.17:41
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XofratsOK, back...17:41
xda-Squirrelswelcome back foxeh17:42
XofratsI published a generic kernel w/ext4 support17:43
XofratsI know your raph needs some fox lovin'17:43
xda-Squirrelsso much of this code is just 'hacks' to get vb6 to do simple shit that it just never supported or had fundtions to do.17:43
xda-Squirrelshawt17:43
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[acl]Xofrats: whats the whole point of ext4 again?17:44
[acl]i didnt even know .27 has ext4 support.. guess i missed that somewhere17:44
XofratsSo that it stops checking fs on every boot, and to reduce chance of data being corrupted (although it still can happen)17:45
xda-Squirrelsim missing the part on where we want a journaling FS on an SD Card lol17:45
xda-Squirrelswouldnt that hit the sd card more?17:45
XofratsWell, not stop but at least read the journal instead of going through fsck17:45
xda-Squirrels<-- noob remember, dont kill me ;p17:45
Xofratsmmc can handle journal fine, remember everything is eMMC and can run ext417:46
[acl]Xofrats: did you ever wonder why there is corruption to begin with ?17:46
turbolapinis it better to overclock with acpuclock.oc_freq_khz= or acpuclock.oc_freq_khz_turbo?17:46
XofratsYes, because 1) xdandroid doesn't support shutdown 2) unexpected things happen17:47
Xofratsthere is no such thing as oc_freq_khz_turbo17:47
turbolapini've seen it somewhere in neopeek forum that's why i'm asking17:47
Xofratsaka battery pull, battery dead, ppl dropping stuff, unexpected reboots17:47
[acl]Xofrats: I think its because we mount bind everythign off the damn sd. And when we shut down it never unmkounts because everything is mount binded.17:48
[acl]on nand for example, there is no sdcard corruption because during shutdown android unmounts the sd properly17:48
turbolapinalso what about acpuclock.force_turbo=1?17:48
Xofratsno, according to hyc it's because it tries to unmount /data without killing apps17:48
Xofratsyou're on a rhod?17:48
[acl]Xofrats: yeah17:48
Tandyman100I wish NAND was just an RUU that I could flash x.x this other stuff is just too complex (plus this computer refuses to play nice with android debugging utilities)17:48
[acl]try to unomunt sd via cmd line before shutdown. you cant because everything is mount binded.17:49
Tandyman100s/NAND/the NAND build17:49
XofratsNot on /data it's not17:49
XofratsBut you can't unmount /data17:49
Xofratsbecause apps are running17:49
[acl]Xofrats: data.img is on sdcard. you cant unmoount sd with /data living on sd17:49
XofratsUmmm, step back and see what you just wrote17:50
Xofrats/data being unmountable has nothing to do with it lviing on sd or not17:50
* Tandyman100 starts repeatedly chanting "fight!"17:50
Xofrats/system and / are usually ro, they don't really care about whether it's unmounted except for a blurb on boot17:52
arrrghhhTandyman100, stfu17:52
XofratsBut /data gets easily corrupted because it's rw17:52
XofratsAnd regardless of whether android shuts down cleanly or not (which it doesn't), there still is the issue of sh*t happening because of battery dieing/pull/reboot for whatever17:53
Tandyman100arrrghhh has awoken!17:56
XofratsI've had too many stuff happen after battery dead for whatever reason17:56
arrrghhhmeh, just saw all the action in the logs17:56
arrrghhhfigured i'd get in on some of the fun.17:57
xda-Squirrelslol17:57
arrrghhhtoo many stuff eh?17:57
xda-Squirrelsheading home now acl17:57
xda-Squirrelsif you leave, i'll give you rabies17:57
arrrghhhlol17:57
XofratsI'm not forcing ext4 on anybody, it's not the default by any means, and it's clearly labeled experimental17:57
arrrghhhthat's what squirrels are good for.17:57
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Xofrats+I fix couple of bugs that should've been squashed in .defconfig long ago17:58
Tandyman100Any chance that NAND builds for the Rhodium will soon come in the form of a flashable .ruu that is all-inclusive and everything ready to go?17:58
arrrghhhTandyman100, FU17:58
XofratsTandy: Won't happen17:58
arrrghhhseriously17:59
arrrghhhwhy are you asking for things that make no sense17:59
Tandyman100Makes sense to me :P18:00
arrrghhhthen do it18:00
Tandyman100Why, might I ask, is that an impossibility?18:00
arrrghhhbecause we have WinMo phones18:00
arrrghhhand we're trying to shove Android on to them18:00
arrrghhhif you can figure it out, by all means.18:00
arrrghhhperhaps if you write your own bootloader18:00
Tandyman100Well, how is it working now?18:01
arrrghhhdid you read the F(&(%@*& thread?18:02
arrrghhhit uses fastboot18:02
arrrghhhyou tool18:02
XofratsThe nand is one (two?) big partition under wm18:02
arrrghhhXofrats, no18:02
XofratsFor Android devices, nand is partitioned into multiple18:02
arrrghhhoh18:02
Tandyman100ah18:02
arrrghhhi thought you were saying something else lol nvm18:02
arrrghhheither way, Tandyman100 wtf.18:02
arrrghhhNAND doesn't play nice with GSM devices18:03
arrrghhhand to call it 'experimental' is an understatement18:03
XofratsSo you can't take the ruu concept and try to shoehorn it to our xdandroid18:03
arrrghhhjust because you bought a RHOD doesn't mean you can skate right to NAND.18:03
arrrghhhenjoy SD builds.18:03
XofratsAnyway, if the devs feel like I'm wasting my time with providing an alternative kernel, then by all means let me know18:04
arrrghhhXofrats, wat18:04
arrrghhhyou're always wasting your time, isn't that what we're here for?18:04
XofratsNo, you are...  I'm just trying to do something useful18:05
arrrghhhlet me know when you plan to start that.18:05
rpierce99and let us know when you plan to stop being an ass18:05
Xofratsme?18:05
rpierce99arrrghhh:18:05
arrrghhhme?  you should know by now that's not happening.18:05
arrrghhhjust like you'll always be a mac phanboi18:06
arrrghhh:D18:06
rpierce99sweet!18:06
rpierce99i always wanted to be a fanboi for something18:06
XofratsHe's just a bofh-in-training18:06
XofratsHe's just getting past the pfa-stage18:06
XofratsLet the young'un mature18:06
XofratsPretty soon he'll be putting high-voltage cable near metalic objects18:07
[acl]Xofrats: sorry .. just got assigned work tonight :-(18:07
Xofratsacl: Is there an issue in particular with someone providing an alternate kernel?18:08
[acl]Xofrats:  huh ?18:08
[acl]Xofrats: what do you mean ?18:08
XofratsWell, seems like too many ppl are having issues with ext4 support in general18:08
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arrrghhhXofrats, if you want to support it, have at it.18:09
XofratsNo, customer service is your dept, pfa18:09
arrrghhhi don't see why there would be any 'problems' with providing alternate kernels.18:09
arrrghhhunless you don't provide source18:09
XofratsNo one has requested one18:09
XofratsAs-of-yet18:09
[acl]sounds like a convo not for me18:09
[acl]:-p18:10
arrrghhhXofrats, to comply with GPL, you must...18:10
XofratsOffer is fine18:10
arrrghhh...?18:10
XofratsI offer under subsection 3 of... lemme see18:10
arrrghhhalso wtf is pfa18:10
arrrghhhurban dictionary has like 15,000 different definitions18:11
rpierce99Pedorthic Footcare Association18:11
arrrghhhlol18:11
arrrghhhI like Poudre Fire Authority18:11
Xofratspimply faced assistant18:11
arrrghhhOo wait18:11
arrrghhhPole Fitness Association18:11
rpierce99Pole Fitness Association - i love me some pole fitness, fyi18:11
arrrghhhlol rpierce9918:11
arrrghhhXofrats, never had an issue with pimples.  sorry.18:12
Xofratssection 3(c) of gpl v218:12
XofratsWell you certainly ain't no bofh18:12
[acl]jebus18:12
arrrghhhbastard operator from hell?18:12
arrrghhhi could be that18:12
Xofratsnot yet18:12
arrrghhhblackout fire-alarm beancounter pinball18:13
arrrghhhsounds like a fun game actually18:13
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xda-Squirrelsim back babeh!18:14
arrrghhhcrap18:15
[acl]ok so now can someone answer me about wtf that was all about ?18:15
arrrghhhwhat18:15
* Xofrats slaps squirrel with a nut18:15
arrrghhh[acl], the kernel mod convo?18:15
[acl]yeah..18:15
[acl]if you call that a convo18:15
* xda-Squirrels burns all the foxes, including a certain 'star' fox ;o18:15
arrrghhhi guess Xofrats is feeling his work is... i dunno, unnecessary?18:16
arrrghhhlol not much of a convo18:16
arrrghhhnot sure what Xofrats was talking about to be honest.18:16
[acl]interesting18:16
arrrghhh(he tends to ramble)18:16
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[acl]im still confused.. but hey.. what do i know. i'm just an innocent bystander18:18
Xofratsconfused about what?18:18
arrrghhhXofrats, i read GPLV2 section 3(c) and you still have to provide the source.  it's not my problem, but xda-devs usually doesn't appreciate kernels without source.18:18
[acl]so thats what this is about source ?18:18
Tandyman100<- Oh, look. This asshole is back.18:18
arrrghhhTandyman100, i was doing just fine ignoring the join statement.18:19
Tandyman100lol18:19
Xofratsarrrghhh: Source is at arrrrghhh.git18:19
arrrghhhuh...?18:19
XofratsOh wait18:19
arrrghhh[acl], i don't know if i would believe that dude's feedback on PPCG18:20
arrrghhhfrom the sounds of it he was running an old kernel which had the broken h2w code still in it..18:20
[acl]arrrghhh: hmm.. well thats the second negative i got18:20
[acl]so im sold on it wont work18:20
[acl]lol18:20
arrrghhhha18:20
arrrghhhok18:20
[acl]patch will have to be made.. no worries..18:20
arrrghhhcool18:20
XofratsActually, I'm not sure if .config counts as GPL18:21
XofratsThat's where the majority of the changes are anyway18:21
[acl]iron fist18:22
arrrghhhlike i said i don't really care18:22
arrrghhhyou're in your own hot water if you don't provide source.18:22
[acl]ahh so the plot thickens18:23
[acl]:-p18:23
arrrghhhlol18:23
arrrghhhi'm still not sure what Xofrats was talking about with this statement "acl: Is there an issue in particular with someone providing an alternate kernel?"18:23
XofratsNot really18:23
XofratsWell, first thing I got asked was "what's the point of ext4"18:24
[acl]ahh18:24
[acl]ok18:24
XofratsThen it degenerated into a convo of how shutdown (doesn't) work18:24
arrrghhhyes18:24
arrrghhhindeed18:24
[acl]Xofrats: well yeah that goes back to our SD convo18:24
[acl]Xofrats: you can do as you wish bro.. no one stopping you. thats the beauty of the gpl. You can just tangent off into whatever you want.18:25
arrrghhh^^18:25
[acl]Xofrats: i do it all the time.. shiet i have so many places to commit to i lose track..18:25
[acl]Xofrats: so i encourage more kernels.. let em run wild and free like intended ..18:26
arrrghhhlol18:26
XofratsThere, vanilla updated18:29
arrrghhhlol18:30
arrrghhhthx Xofrats18:30
arrrghhhi'm sure that caused you great pain...18:30
[acl]Xofrats: anywho.. so what other changes you have planed ?18:30
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Xofratsacl: To which tree?18:34
[acl]Xofrats: in general .. sounds like you have some ideas .. i just wanna hear em.18:35
XofratsAnd test updated18:35
XofratsNothing, I just fixed stuff in vanilla, playing around with stuff in test18:35
XofratsI don't have any grand ideas...18:36
[acl]Xofrats: ahh ic.. well if you see more bugs just dont be afraid to submit a patch.18:36
[acl]just fyi.. xda-Squirrels is the man.. let the record show18:38
arrrghhhlol18:38
arrrghhhdid he get you some useful logs?18:39
[acl]arrrghhh: not yet, but he isnt giving up.. the passion is there tho..18:39
xda-Squirrels<-- noober18:39
arrrghhhheh18:39
arrrghhhhe tried helping with the RAPH800 debacle on FRX0718:39
XofratsWeird, my touchscreen is acting all weird, brb18:40
XofratsHey acl, anything I can do to test touchscreen weirdness before I reboot?18:40
arrrghhhi found deck nails work best18:41
XofratsI prefer armor piercing rounds18:41
arrrghhhlol18:41
XofratsBut unfortunately, a hole in your head won't fix my issue18:41
[acl]Xofrats: touch screen weirdness? explain?18:42
arrrghhhi was talking about your phone, but yea.  i doubt a hole in anyone's head will fix your problems.18:42
XofratsIt's way off, and registering touch at the edge, it seems18:42
[acl]Xofrats: reapply your calib and see if it helps18:43
arrrghhhif calib worked before, that's odd.  never heard of it before.18:44
[acl]arrrghhh: wasnt there a bug where sometimes the ts would shit itself when coming out of sleep.18:45
Xofrats cat calibration_points18:45
Xofrats795,842,216,846,503,528,795,205,208,20618:45
Xofrats cat /sdcard/ts-calibration18:45
arrrghhh[acl], not that i recall18:45
Xofrats795,842,216,846,503,528,795,205,208,20618:45
XofratsSeems identical18:45
[acl]Xofrats: cat it into the input18:45
[acl]for the ts18:46
XofratsYeah, I was just checking before18:46
[acl]arrrghhh: you still have those scripts to dump ts cal from nand straight into the ts input ?18:46
XofratsI do18:46
arrrghhhyea but they weren't accepted18:46
[acl]yeah but its a good tool18:46
XofratsAt least for the cdma one18:46
[acl]for cases like this18:46
Xofratsthe points are off18:46
XofratsI noticed the edge requires a bit of offset18:47
XofratsHmmm, still acting weird...  top half of the screen brings down the notification thingie18:47
XofratsAnd I'm nowhere near the edge18:47
[acl]lol reboot18:48
XofratsYeah, prolly best idea, brb18:48
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[acl]arrrghhh: for the average joe you could just make em into an script so peeps can load in their user.conf..18:48
[acl]instead of passing a round calib files like savages18:49
arrrghhhheh18:49
arrrghhhyea18:49
[acl]you saw the movie rise of the planet of the apes? the first thing those monkeys after getting smart was stop passing calib files.18:49
arrrghhhLMAO18:50
arrrghhhi want to see that movie18:50
arrrghhhnow even moar...18:50
arrrghhhbut yea, it would be nice to eliminate ts-calib18:50
arrrghhhi only have values for RHOD tho18:50
[acl]anyways dood i need to close th eoffice18:50
[acl]ill ttyl18:50
arrrghhhi think i had people test, GSM and CDMA were good.18:50
arrrghhhcool, peace out18:50
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XofratsGrrr18:54
XofratsBRB with stock18:58
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xda-Squirrelsthere we go19:29
xda-Squirrelsgot the haretconsole panel collapse stuff acl wanted for RAPH800 lol19:33
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XofratsOK, that was the weirdest thing19:34
XofratsUnfortunately it means I have to find a different crosscompiler19:35
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BulitPrufTitanium Backup will allow me to keep all my settings and some/all apps where I can choose which one I want to keep?20:05
BulitPrufor not put back20:05
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XofratsAnyway, it seems that gcc-4.5.2 has problem crosscompiling20:23
XofratsIf someone is cross-compiling and would just dump their gcc version, would be appreciated20:23
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ryannathansbtw guys, tcc is much faster than gcc20:31
ryannathansjust putting it out there20:31
D3tul3ugh done20:31
ryannathans10x faster20:31
XofratsWhat's tcc?20:32
ryannathanstiny c compiler20:32
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XofratsDetule: Anything major change between final and what you sent me?20:32
XofratsOther than the kernel interface20:32
ryannathansfind the site, theres speed comparisons on tcc website, massively faster20:33
ryannathansgnu too20:33
Xofratsmade by gnu?20:33
ryannathanslolwut20:33
ryannathansits the 'free' kind20:33
ryannathansiirc gnu20:34
D3tul3Xofrats: er minor differences that the end user would not notice....20:34
XofratsI'll just wait until the code is pushed before posting another update20:34
XofratsGNU is an organization20:35
D3tul3i think you should find a git repo for your project - pretty soon it will become impossible to maintain without some sort of version control system20:35
XofratsI do have a git repo, just not on my phone20:35
XofratsI'm using it to compile vanilla20:35
Xofratsiirc there were some issues compiling kernels with non-gcc cc's20:36
XofratsI know that was an issue a few years back20:36
XofratsDunno if it ever got fixed20:36
D3tul3Xofrats: which toolchain do you use for cross compiling?20:36
XofratsI was using one provided in Natty, gcc-4.5.220:37
XofratsBut seems that there were some issues, my touchscreen completely went wonky20:37
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XofratsI'm trying with gcc-4.4, which is what I use to compile on my phone20:37
XofratsSee how far that gets20:38
XofratsIf that fails, I'm probably going to resort to the codesourcery ones20:38
D3tul3codesourcery hasn't failed me yet20:38
XofratsYes, but I don't seem to be able to figure out what each of the versions is different20:39
XofratsThey just seem to provide one every so often20:39
XofratsAnd I dislike the word of "subscription", even though I can seem to d/l for free20:39
D3tul3the golden standard around here is 2010 3Q20:39
D3tul3i've heard there are issues with the newer ones20:39
XofratsI'll keep that in mind20:40
XofratsIf/when gcc-4.4 fails... w20:41
XofratsOK, time for me to go20:48
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rpierce99the ML is feisty the last couple days :)22:17
xda-Squirrelsdo who in the where?22:18
rpierce99ML = mailing list22:18
xda-Squirrelsahh22:22
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xda-SquirrelsOMFGGGGGG23:32
xda-Squirrelsfur serialz guize23:33
xda-Squirrels"Microsoft Windows Mobile Remote Adapter" was 'disabled' and whats why RNDIS wasn't working ('Enable faster data sync' with ActiveSync)23:33
xda-Squirrelsand why i couldnt get an ip address for the device when connected via usb23:33
xda-Squirrelsand why i coudlnt haretcosole to it as a result except over wifi which turns off when panel collapses in winmo23:34
xda-Squirrels*/rageeeeee*23:34
xda-Squirrelsk im done lol23:34
xda-Squirrelsoh and fuckity fuck fuck23:34
xda-Squirrelsback to your regularly scheduled idling23:34
xda-Squirrelsnow if i could figure out how to keep usb connection alive when i kill the screen23:37
xda-Squirrelsim sure there has to be something in HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/Power or w/e23:42
xda-Squirrelsprobably involves adding a key in there under Suspended and seting it to 0 (full power), just gotta find which one23:45
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