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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, curse you | 00:38 |
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| rpierce99 | lolwut | 00:39 |
| Xofrats | join/quit spam | 00:39 |
| rpierce99 | my wife keeps open/closing the lid, she's drunk and keeps having really important things to look up | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 00:40 |
| Xofrats | My computer doesn't have that problem, I just keep wavelock on ^^) | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | i just started using znc recently | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | works really well | 00:41 |
| Xofrats | What's znc? | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | a bouncer | 00:42 |
| Xofrats | Oh, bnc clone | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | i never really knew about it before | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy told me about it, i like it so far | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | been using it for a few days | 00:42 |
| rpierce99 | wait, an irc client so that when my irc client disconnects it doesn't disconnect? what if znc disconnects.... | 00:43 |
| * rpierce99 is confused | 00:43 | |
| * rpierce99 and drunk, so that's probably why | 00:43 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:43 |
| Xofrats | No, it's a proxy | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i have a linux server that's on 24/7 | 00:43 |
| Xofrats | IRC proxy | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | and that linux server is where i connect my IRC clients to | 00:43 |
| Xofrats | Basically, it connects to the server, you connect to it, and it forwards stuff | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | so the linux server is actually on IRC, and i just connect to my linux server... | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | boom | 00:44 |
| Xofrats | I used to just run screen | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | it plays back history, can make me away, etc. | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | i still don't know if the away feature works correctly, i'll just assume it does lol | 00:44 |
| rpierce99 | i could probably do that with my pogoplug, it's the only computer in my house that's always on | 00:44 |
| rpierce99 | but why, I don't have to look at my own join/quit spam | 00:44 |
| Xofrats | Or you could run epic5 on your rhod | 00:45 |
| Xofrats | Like I do | 00:45 |
| Xofrats | uname: extra operand `0a' | 00:45 |
| Xofrats | Try `uname --help' for more information. | 00:45 |
| rpierce99 | i like my battery to not die | 00:45 |
| Xofrats | Linux localhost 2.6.27.46-fox-110813 #1 PREEMPT Sat Aug 13 07:20:02 EDT 2011 armv6l GNU/Linux | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:46 |
| rpierce99 | alright this the last one, closing the app. | 00:47 |
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| arrrghhh | Detule, yo | 01:12 |
| Detule | hey | 01:12 |
| jonpry | hola | 01:12 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, hey! | 01:12 |
| jonpry | hi arrrghhh | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | how goes it sir | 01:13 |
| jonpry | alright kind of tired | 01:13 |
| jonpry | was wondering if Detule tried any of those vmalloc deals | 01:14 |
| jonpry | how've you been arrrghhh? | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | good, workin mah ass off | 01:14 |
| Detule | yeah running with the increased vmalloc and the ppp_deflate patch | 01:14 |
| Detule | it's been fine so far | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | Detule, i wanted to ask about the led change... have you had it get f-ed up before? | 01:14 |
| jonpry | thats a good sign | 01:15 |
| Detule | arrrghhh, not in the 12 hrs or so that i've been running it | 01:15 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 01:15 |
| arrrghhh | i set it to 0 | 01:15 |
| arrrghhh | and it worked great, but when i started playing pandora the LED went solid orange | 01:15 |
| arrrghhh | i plugged in the 3.5mm jack, but it wasn't plugged into power.. | 01:15 |
| Detule | here's the deal | 01:15 |
| arrrghhh | and it wouldn't go off lol. i set it to 2, then back to 0 and it's working again | 01:15 |
| Detule | if you notice something not as you expect it | 01:16 |
| Detule | cat sys/class/leds/COLOR/brightness | 01:16 |
| Detule | where color = amber or green | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 01:16 |
| Detule | these are the hooks that android sets for notifications | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | it'll tell me why it's chosen to light that LED? | 01:16 |
| Detule | if amber is say "1" then the phone is behaving on instructions from android | 01:16 |
| Detule | if amber is "0" but amber light is on, then something is wrong with the logc in my code | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | i'll look at that next time... | 01:17 |
| Detule | and changing the debug_mask wouldn't reset the led | 01:17 |
| Detule | rather, next time you ntoice some behavior on th eled you want to change | 01:18 |
| Detule | echo directly to COLOR/brightness | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea, rpierce99 told me to send myself an email | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, it fixed the issue | 01:18 |
| jonpry | lol | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | btw, is your code on a local tree or...? | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | Starfox or Xofrats whoever guy wanted the source | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | (wants to put it in his test kernel) | 01:19 |
| jonpry | are people using 39 or what these days? | 01:19 |
| Detule | yeah i'll send the patch to the ml next wk if emwe is fine with it, kinda feel like i would be taking credit for his work | 01:19 |
| Detule | jonpry, i am using it full time but 39 is suffering from acoustic | 01:19 |
| jonpry | why is that? | 01:20 |
| jonpry | acoustic sucks? | 01:20 |
| Detule | can't use frx07 with it and 06+ is no longer available | 01:20 |
| Detule | if you didnt get 06+ when it was up for the getting you have no build to run the kernel with | 01:20 |
| jonpry | ouch | 01:21 |
| jonpry | when will xdandroid support acoustic? | 01:21 |
| Detule | i am not sure acoustic is ready for the world | 01:21 |
| jonpry | at this rate my phone will be ready for the trash first | 01:22 |
| jonpry | pieces of it are falling off already | 01:22 |
| Detule | my phone no longer works with the keyboard open | 01:22 |
| Detule | i was ready to see this phone through for a bit longer but not having a keyboard is a serious handicap | 01:23 |
| jonpry | kind of defeats the purpose of the tilt feature | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | that sucks Detule | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | pieces are falling off my phone too | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | it's awesome. i stuper glued it today | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, there was actually some push from alex to get the acoustic in | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | he wants to get it tested more thoroughly | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | orange led on | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 01:27 |
| Detule | cat me that value | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 01:27 |
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| arrrghhh | 15% or less | 01:27 |
| Detule | oh that's nice | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that value is 1 | 01:28 |
| Detule | then it's an instruction from userland | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 01:30 |
| Detule | jonpry, i can git-format the vmalloc and the ppp_deflate patch against my tree if that would make it easier for you | 01:31 |
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| arrrghhh | wb | 01:59 |
| Detule | yeah dsl is giving me some fresh appreciation for cable internet | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | i do love my cable cxn. | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | dsl used to be horrid | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | haven't used it in years | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | zomg | 02:04 |
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| xda-Squirrels | havent tried dsl, went straight from dial-up years back to cable | 03:08 |
| xda-Squirrels | dsl would probably be fine if you have sufficiently decent cabling in your house/walls, your providers doesnt bite ass and you're not near the edge of the service range | 03:08 |
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| arrrghhh | xda-Squirrels, that's the problem tho | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | there's too many factors that kill DSL service. loop length to the CO is a huge one. | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | kernel BUG at arch/arm/mach-msm/smd.c:317! | 10:37 |
| arrrghhh | seems bad | 10:37 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/p6wAYFM0 | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/MzFCbMq5 | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/nsBRZ6Aw | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/puJWK4iT | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/i2v7dj5s | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ all have the same SMD error | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | had a guy on the forums throw me that. said on the newer autobuild kernels, and the Starfox 'test' kernel, same results... | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | keeps getting random reboots seemingly related to SMD... | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if this'll stand up, but here's what the theory was from the user | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | "Very likely started with commit 970e5be on 6/27" | 10:41 |
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| Detule | arrrghhh, isn't that the tty bug from hyc s patch | 11:17 |
| Detule | that function smd_readx is no longer in the autobuild as of Aug 05 | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | i thought he pulled it back | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | Had sent a log with this problem to hyc a few weeks back, but since then it looks like he reverted to jonpry's original patch and the issue is still present (maybe even a little worse in frequency). | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | evidently making it worse? lol. i dunno, i don't have that issue. i'm on a RHOD400 just like he is... and you as well. | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, i have to go return my rental car. bbl. | 11:29 |
| jonpry | Detule, patch sounds good. does it actually fix the problem? | 11:36 |
| jonpry | does that smd problem happen during heavy data transfers or something? | 11:46 |
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| BulitPruf | hi Sunday morning | 12:05 |
| BulitPruf | anyone awake and is not a zombie? | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | if you have a question ask it, if someone has an answer they will respond | 12:08 |
| BulitPruf | :D | 12:10 |
| BulitPruf | questions 3 | 12:10 |
| BulitPruf | idunno, for some reason I think options in startup.txt are ignored to some point | 12:11 |
| rpierce99 | startup.txt is options for haret.exe, those are well documented, the options in the cmdline section go directly to the kernel and init, and only work if they are implemented in the specific init/kernel you are running | 12:12 |
| BulitPruf | after booting, teh msmvkeyb is on top starting from the console, then when gui loads it's still there, doesn't do anything | 12:12 |
| BulitPruf | kernel is default from the full bundle | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | pastebin your startup.txt | 12:12 |
| BulitPruf | 1 sec | 12:13 |
| Detule | jonpry, er, it hasn't cropped up in the last couple of days, but even before the patch, i was often problem-free for as long as a week | 12:13 |
| Detule | i did notice in my dmesg yesterday that my phone survived an smd_close(7) | 12:14 |
| Detule | so that's probably a good sign | 12:14 |
| rpierce99 | Detule: i haven't read logs yet but did you see arrrghhh and I both had orange lights randomly yesterday | 12:15 |
| BulitPruf | http://pastebin.com/ctL9fQwp | 12:15 |
| Detule | k arrrghhh mentioned that he saw an orange light when battery level dropped below 15%-ish could this be something you were seeing as well? | 12:15 |
| jonpry | Detule, sounds good enough for me. send patch to me @ gmail.com | 12:15 |
| rpierce99 | no my battery was good | 12:15 |
| rpierce99 | i was out and about and receiving an email took me back to normal op | 12:16 |
| BulitPruf | the oc doesn't work either | 12:16 |
| Detule | next time you see a light amber/green that surprises you cat sys/class/leds/COLOR/brightness (COLOR=amber or green) | 12:16 |
| Detule | if that's "1" then it's a notification sent by android and not a kernel bug | 12:16 |
| Detule | if it's "0" then it's a problem with my code | 12:17 |
| rpierce99 | i figured there was a stray command to set amber in some other code, hacked into the wrong place | 12:17 |
| Detule | i'll go over it again to make sure | 12:18 |
| rpierce99 | BulitPruf: is the physical keyboard layout correct? | 12:18 |
| rpierce99 | ie keys do what they should | 12:18 |
| BulitPruf | as correct as a qwerty | 12:18 |
| rpierce99 | mainly it would be the special keys like shift and fn | 12:18 |
| rpierce99 | the letters are generally correct | 12:18 |
| BulitPruf | umm no | 12:19 |
| BulitPruf | fn does shift | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | so your whole cmdline is being ignored then most likely | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | i'm surprised it boots | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | because your rel_path is in there | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | try pulling in the default Tilt2 startup.txt over the top of yours and rename the folder it's in to andboot | 12:21 |
| rpierce99 | that way you don't have to edit the file | 12:21 |
| BulitPruf | hmmm | 12:26 |
| BulitPruf | seems rel_path was the problem | 12:27 |
| BulitPruf | :D | 12:27 |
| BulitPruf | I'm so dumb | 12:27 |
| rpierce99 | it probably wasn't rel_path, it was probably the way the file was edited, many editors muck up the file and add weird characters that screw the file up | 12:27 |
| BulitPruf | oh yea | 12:27 |
| BulitPruf | was gonna ask abt that | 12:28 |
| BulitPruf | I edited with notepad | 12:28 |
| rpierce99 | yeah that's the worst | 12:28 |
| rpierce99 | notepad++ on windows works well | 12:28 |
| BulitPruf | then I used ES File Explorer and it told me the file had extra formatting | 12:28 |
| BulitPruf | silly mistake | 12:28 |
| rpierce99 | very common | 12:28 |
| BulitPruf | kool | 12:29 |
| BulitPruf | is there a home screen button mapping? | 12:30 |
| rpierce99 | home screen buttons? | 12:30 |
| BulitPruf | win key does menu | 12:31 |
| BulitPruf | back does back | 12:31 |
| BulitPruf | end sleep/lock | 12:31 |
| rpierce99 | currently? or that is what you want | 12:32 |
| BulitPruf | can I map ptt to home or something? | 12:32 |
| BulitPruf | that's what it is currently | 12:32 |
| rpierce99 | as of FRX07 end should be home | 12:32 |
| rpierce99 | oh ptt | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | sorry missed that | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | haha | 12:37 |
| BulitPruf | tyhanks for all your FRX07 | 12:37 |
| BulitPruf | err help | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | i believe in some test rootfs the ptt button has been mapped | 12:37 |
| BulitPruf | :F | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | but i don't think it is out of the box | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | i don't have a ptt button | 12:37 |
| BulitPruf | wow | 12:38 |
| BulitPruf | I don't know for others but this seems quite to perfection for me | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | i've been using android exclusively for months, i think it's great | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | not perfect, but great | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | winmo isn't nearly perfect, fwiw | 12:39 |
| BulitPruf | I liked WinMo on my Treo | 12:44 |
| BulitPruf | rpierce99: 'twas the editing, everything works properly now | 12:47 |
| BulitPruf | well | 12:47 |
| rpierce99 | i assume that means you put back in your oc | 12:47 |
| BulitPruf | yep | 12:48 |
| rpierce99 | glad you got it all working | 12:49 |
| BulitPruf | that really had skewered everything | 12:49 |
| BulitPruf | the gsensor didn't work right, keyb, oc | 12:49 |
| BulitPruf | now everything's fine | 12:50 |
| BulitPruf | thanks | 12:50 |
| rpierce99 | np | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:50 |
| xda-Squirrels | roar | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | damn that regular notepad | 12:51 |
| BulitPruf | haha | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | Word on WinMo is just as bad | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | if you save it in its stupid format | 12:51 |
| rpierce99 | yup, made that mistake myself once | 12:51 |
| BulitPruf | I thought np was clean | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | i've edited startup.txt many a time on WinMo. Always gotta answer NO to that damned question | 12:51 |
| BulitPruf | and simple as could be | 12:51 |
| rpierce99 | clean + windows formatted | 12:51 |
| rpierce99 | newline characters are crlf or cr or lf and linux expects something else | 12:52 |
| rpierce99 | never remember which way that works | 12:52 |
| xda-Squirrels | linux expects LF, windows uses CRLF | 12:52 |
| BulitPruf | nother questions | 12:52 |
| BulitPruf | does the oc have a min state? | 12:53 |
| BulitPruf | or is it always max? | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | BulitPruf, it varies based on usage | 12:53 |
| BulitPruf | dynamic then | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | apps like SystemPanelLite let you actually see the clock speed being adjusted | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | yet | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | yes* | 12:53 |
| BulitPruf | wifi seems a bit slow | 12:57 |
| BulitPruf | very nice | 13:11 |
| BulitPruf | but my Angry Birds not working lol | 13:11 |
| * arrrghhh stabs BulitPruf | 13:11 | |
| arrrghhh | Angry Birds requires OpenGLES 2.0 | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | which our hardware does not support | 13:11 |
| BulitPruf | :( | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | go buy a new phone | 13:11 |
| BulitPruf | it was just a test | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | what do we have? Adreno 130 or some crap? | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 13:12 |
| BulitPruf | I have a Glacer | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | why is Angry Birds the benchmark app for Android | 13:12 |
| BulitPruf | *Glacier | 13:12 |
| jonpry | hmm. i play angry birds on phone | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | is it smooth? | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | i've played it, just not smooth. not even close. | 13:13 |
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| BulitPruf | does FRX07 get flash? | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | probably won't work | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | goes back to our old shitty hardware | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | i've heard flash works like poop on the N1 | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | can't imagine how it'll work on ours | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | might work with skyfire tho | 13:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | even if it did, it'd probably kill the phone with how slow it'd go | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | since their servers do the number-crunching | 13:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | agreed | 13:16 |
| BulitPruf | I'd figure so | 13:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | i loved skyfire on winmo | 13:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | then they killed it >.< | 13:16 |
| BulitPruf | Flash cripples my core solo laptop | 13:17 |
| BulitPruf | i.e. celeron | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | BulitPruf, so what do you think it'll do to a 528mhz ARM from 2007? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | flahs can bog down my hex core w/ 2x 5770 radeon HDs | 13:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | its ust shitty software | 13:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | silverlight all the way baby | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | hex core | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | look at you | 13:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | *looks at me* ok, now what | 13:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | you're a manwhore | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | or something whore | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | specwhore? | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:19 |
| xda-Squirrels | eh, im actually disappointed | 13:19 |
| BulitPruf | not supported? I don't see it in the market | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | although i did get a 6770M in my new lappy | 13:19 |
| xda-Squirrels | i only have 8GB of my oriiginal 16GB ram left | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's not a bad card | 13:19 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol | 13:19 |
| xda-Squirrels | 2 sticks were bad when i bought all the ram and im a lazy fuck | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | HP and AMD are braindead, so i couldn't use it at first | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | dude... | 13:20 |
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| xda-Squirrels | amd radeon driver spamming my event log with UVD Information | 13:21 |
| xda-Squirrels | trying to track down my my windows media player keeps stopping anything i play after like a few seconds | 13:22 |
| xda-Squirrels | music, videos | 13:22 |
| xda-Squirrels | about 5-10 seconds in, its acting like im pressing the stop button but im now | 13:22 |
| xda-Squirrels | driving me apeshit | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | why are you using windows media player | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | you fool | 13:23 |
| xda-Squirrels | works sufficiently to play m3u files and files over UNC path | 13:23 |
| xda-Squirrels | i also use VLC for videos usually | 13:23 |
| xda-Squirrels | winamp is a pile nowadays imo | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea winamp is | 13:23 |
| xda-Squirrels | i think its just time to format | 13:28 |
| rpierce99 | my desktop needs one something fierce | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | or just some effort on my part to optimize it, but i never use it | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | my wife is starting to complain though, so maybe in a couple of months when it becomes more difficult to ignore the complants than to fix it | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:31 |
| xda-Squirrels | well i just need to transfer anything i wanna keep to my 2tb fileserver, then format using pxe | 13:31 |
| xda-Squirrels | dont even have to find a disk but theres so much shit to xfer | 13:31 |
| xda-Squirrels | and im a perfectionist so im going to end up tinkering with settings and programs and shit until like 2am | 13:32 |
| xda-Squirrels | and i have work tomm lol | 13:32 |
| BulitPruf | general market question | 13:33 |
| BulitPruf | does market filter out device unsupported apps? | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it filters all sorts of things | 13:33 |
| rpierce99 | market doesn't, devs do | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | carriers can filter crap out | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | well, yea | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it depends on what the dev tags the app as | 13:34 |
| rpierce99 | they have all kinds of filters they can put on | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | which does that market enabler app work? | 13:34 |
| BulitPruf | cuz I can't find flash player | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i messed with it, didn't seem to make a difference. although my phone did appear different on the market.android.com site | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | BulitPruf, seriously | 13:34 |
| BulitPruf | and some other stuff | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | you're still going down that road | 13:34 |
| rpierce99 | you won't, totally unsupported | 13:34 |
| rpierce99 | some have tried and failed, others have tried and claimed success only to never deliver | 13:35 |
| BulitPruf | not expecting anything in particular | 13:35 |
| BulitPruf | just looking at the behaviour of market | 13:36 |
| BulitPruf | I mean after a search it doesn't say: "well here it is, but you can't have it on your device" | 13:38 |
| BulitPruf | it just says "item not found in market" | 13:39 |
| xda-Squirrels | yeah it'll just say no results found | 13:39 |
| rpierce99 | the compatibility error will only happen if you use the market website on you computer | 13:39 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm. seems disabling apps via startup with pm disable is indeed a good idea | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | i think i should compile a list of ones you shouldn't touch tho | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still confused on a few of 'em. | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | pm disable seems to do more than just disable the app from starting on boot... it disables it completely?!? | 14:05 |
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| hyc | you're not supposed to disable the entire app | 14:44 |
| hyc | only the specific events they trigger o. | 14:44 |
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| [acl] | who der ? | 15:10 |
| [acl] | ghost town | 15:12 |
| xda-Squirrels | yep | 15:13 |
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| [acl] | fawwk | 15:35 |
| xda-Squirrels | ? | 15:35 |
| [acl] | nothing | 15:35 |
| [acl] | who are u? | 15:35 |
| xda-Squirrels | some guy | 15:35 |
| [acl] | or what are you is a better question | 15:36 |
| [acl] | :-p | 15:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | ;p | 15:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | RAPH800 user, idling in chat | 15:36 |
| [acl] | ahh old faithful | 15:36 |
| [acl] | question | 15:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | yo | 15:36 |
| [acl] | on winmo, does light sensor work for you on the raph 800 | 15:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | seemingly, display goes off when in call when its near my face | 15:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | havent tested it a whole lot | 15:37 |
| [acl] | hmm.. | 15:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | i'll give a few goes by calling my google voice # in a lil bit | 15:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | im in TF2 atm ;p | 15:37 |
| [acl] | well should be simple. I mean on my galaxy S, i cover the phone and goes dark.. remove my hand and it brightens up again. | 15:37 |
| [acl] | interestingly enough on my tp2 i dont see any lightsensor work | 15:37 |
| [acl] | i only see the light sensor being read when the panel comes up from sleep or from being off. then it stops. guess it only polls it once and calls it a day | 15:40 |
| rpierce99 | I'm still not used to having android notifications, just pulled the phone out of my pocket to make sure i hadn't missed a message and turned the screen on instinctively even though the led was off | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, can you explain? | 15:42 |
| [acl] | if im reading correctly, looks like lightsensor polling is disabled .. some fellas have some app to enable polling | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | [acl], with autobrightness i definitely see the screen adjust... more light it gets bright, less light gets dim... | 15:44 |
| [acl] | arrrghhh: what i was going to do is send a bunch of commands for the masses to test on other devices so i can finish this light sensor. I tested on my tp2.. to my surprise there was no info | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | although it dims much more slowly than it brightens. WisTilt2 designed it this way AFAIK | 15:45 |
| [acl] | but that son android | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | [acl], Oo | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | no info... | 15:45 |
| [acl] | the logic is broken actually | 15:45 |
| [acl] | i mean on winmo | 15:45 |
| [acl] | so we can get all the devices on board already | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | people keep saying the autobl driver is busted for Android as well | 15:45 |
| [acl] | it is | 15:45 |
| [acl] | since there is no lighsensor | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:45 |
| [acl] | thats what i mean | 15:45 |
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| arrrghhh | weird... | 15:45 |
| [acl] | it depends on the light sensor feedback to determine what brightness to use | 15:46 |
| [acl] | i got it sorta working on the rhod but the klt code incorporates all devices so its gonna be a massive patch | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | ahoy | 15:46 |
| lapin{GR} | hello xda fans :) | 15:46 |
| [acl] | i guess i can email wistilt about this as well | 15:46 |
| [acl] | arrrghhh: lol.. guess we have been doing this so long forgot how the tp2 actually worked on winmo | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really use winmo much bro | 15:53 |
| [acl] | no one does | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | swapping stuff out, then i'm back to android. | 15:53 |
| [acl] | rpierce99: what do you know about this .. spill the beans already | 15:53 |
| [acl] | :-p | 15:54 |
| rpierce99 | [acl]: i've spent all of about 2 days in winmo since i got the phone, no help here | 15:55 |
| rpierce99 | the first thing i did when the company bought it was see if I could put something else on it besides the stock winmo | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | good thing to look for with a company phone... | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, well killing all these apps completely sure has sped things up... | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | now if i can only figure out how to just prevent it from startup... lol | 15:56 |
| [acl] | rpierce99: haha no worries.. its sorta working right now so ill just share the code with the brethren so they can assist witht he other devices.. | 15:56 |
| [acl] | but for now i gotta go | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | cool ths [acl] | 15:57 |
| [acl] | just got an SOS from my pops.. looks like he has a flood.. had no idea it was even raining | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | o snap.. | 15:57 |
| [acl] | arrrghhh: no word on the mic detection yet? anyone even try ? | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | good luck bro. bring your waders | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | [acl], seemed like someone did, who entirely missed the point | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | Starfox/Xofrats was talking about it earlier, haven't seen his feedback | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | so i am hoping he has a headset to test with | 15:57 |
| [acl] | coo | 15:57 |
| [acl] | ill brb | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 15:58 |
| Detule | arrrghhh, rpierce99, no unexpected led behavior other than those one-offs last night? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | Detule, uhm i've been playing with other things | 15:58 |
| rpierce99 | nope working great so far today, it's only been off the charger for about 2 hours though | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | other horrible awful things.. | 15:58 |
| Detule | :) can't be that bad | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | i went crazy with pm disable | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | last night i went so crazy it failed to boot. not sure which one was the factor, had to start over. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | and now i realize that i did it wrong, and disabled the entire app evidently | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | instead of just the on-boot request | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:59 |
| Detule | wish stinebd was around, looks like userland is only equipped to supply a blinking amber light....i was hoping for a blinking green light | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | hyc had blinking green for sleep at one point | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm sure that was all kernel voodoo | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess i'm not sure. just pretty sure :P | 16:00 |
| Detule | right | 16:00 |
| hyc | I don't believe there's any reason it couldn't be wired into userland | 16:00 |
| rpierce99 | yeah that was a kernel side change, he didn't release a system image for that | 16:00 |
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| Detule | all i am saying is that current liblights doesn't ask for a blinking green | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh liblights | 16:01 |
| hyc | because it doesn't know how to ask? | 16:01 |
| Detule | it knows to ask for a blinking amber | 16:01 |
| hyc | I mean, on a regular android phone blinking green means message waiting | 16:02 |
| hyc | blinking amber - no idea what that means :P | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | solid amber appears to be mean low battery | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | when not plugged in | 16:03 |
| Detule | i am not even sure android would even ask for a blinking amber even though liblights can handle that call | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | when plugged in, charging... | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | blinking amber? no service maybe...? | 16:03 |
| hyc | of course those defaults all really don't matter. E.g. all cyanogen derived ROMs let you choose every notification color/style | 16:03 |
| hyc | red should mean low battery | 16:03 |
| hyc | blinking red means critically low | 16:04 |
| hyc | amber means charging | 16:04 |
| hyc | green means fully charged | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:05 |
| Detule | well, i can write the blink callbacks, but it seems unless stinebd intervenes in liblights we won't see the fruit of that labor unless android asks for a blinking amber | 16:05 |
| Detule | too many unless-es | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | unless... | 16:09 |
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| rpierce99 | that's odd, the const definitions just skip it altogether, red_blink, amber_blink, ......... nothing | 16:12 |
| rpierce99 | wouldn't a patch just be a duplication of the existing amber_blink code with some new names for green? | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | ohhh | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | .BootReceiver | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | i see where i went so very wrong... | 16:13 |
| hyc | duh | 16:14 |
| hyc | :P | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | i have, how do you say... the dumb? | 16:14 |
| hyc | lol | 16:14 |
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| smiley-_ | hmm.. the sk17i is stopping the charge at 100% and then lets the phone run on battery until 95% is reached again and then starts to recharge to 100% again | 16:21 |
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| arrrghhh | well that's goos | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | good* | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | someone with a RAPH was saying it would charge to 100%, then stop charging and the battery would actually die if left lol | 16:29 |
| smiley-_ | um.. and someone has overclocked it to 1.9GHz | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:30 |
| rpierce99 | Detule: do you have a system image build environment set up | 16:31 |
| xda-Squirrels | lame acl d/ced | 16:32 |
| Detule | rpierce99, right a patch would just check for a blink_green gile | 16:32 |
| Detule | and in https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_msm7k/blobs/gingerbread/liblights/lights.c#line303 it would have an if switch | 16:33 |
| rpierce99 | i already wrote it, hence the question, i can't actually make a patch (because i have no idea how | 16:33 |
| Detule | for color = amber or green | 16:33 |
| rpierce99 | but yeah it's dead simple | 16:33 |
| rpierce99 | i have no idea if it works | 16:33 |
| rpierce99 | but it seems simple | 16:33 |
| Detule | sorry my build environment is severely outdated | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Submitting_Patches | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, ^^ | 16:34 |
| rpierce99 | right, that requires using git | 16:35 |
| rpierce99 | i just downloaded the .c file and edited in xcode | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | git seems easier than that | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | but ok | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have a build environment setup | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | not updated either tho lol | 16:35 |
| rpierce99 | no, this took 2 minutes, including writing the patch, just installing git takes longer than that | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | setting up the initial repo is painful | 16:36 |
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| xda-Squirrels | >.> [acl] isnt registered with services | 16:40 |
| xda-Squirrels | was gonna leave him a message with memoserv lol | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | way to announce it. | 16:41 |
| rpierce99 | use the bot | 16:41 |
| xda-Squirrels | idk how to use that thing | 16:41 |
| xda-Squirrels | :P | 16:41 |
| rpierce99 | xdandroid later tell <user> <message> i think | 16:41 |
| xdandroid | rpierce99: The operation succeeded. | 16:41 |
| xda-Squirrels | ahh | 16:41 |
| xda-Squirrels | ty | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | it worked, whatever you just did rpierce99 | 16:41 |
| xda-Squirrels | xdandroid later tell [acl] Tested winmo light sensor on RAPH800; it works. Does not in XDAndroid FRX07 newest kernl/rootfs. | 16:42 |
| xdandroid | xda-Squirrels: The operation succeeded. | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | xda-Squirrels, was this the prox sensor or light sensor | 16:42 |
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| arrrghhh | like during a phone call, screen turns off | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | or ambient light sensor | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | where when it's dark screen goes dim | 16:43 |
| xda-Squirrels | hmm, good point, i covered what the small sensor in the earpiece to block light from entering | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | when it's light screen goes light | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | er bright | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 16:43 |
| hyc | is acl working on the light sensor? | 16:44 |
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| xda-Squirrels | i'll just throw the phone in a dark room without usng my hand to cover the phone | 16:44 |
| hyc | otherwise, why would he care? | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea he's working on the light sensor | 16:44 |
| xda-Squirrels | idk, i mentioned i have a RAPH800 and he asked if raph light sensor works in winmo | 16:44 |
| hyc | cool | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | tryin to get it up to speed on all devices | 16:44 |
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| xda-Squirrels | cant wait to get rid of this phone | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:47 |
| xda-Squirrels | http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Holiday_id5511 | 16:48 |
| xda-Squirrels | holding out for that | 16:48 |
| xda-Squirrels | assuming specs are legit | 16:48 |
| xda-Squirrels | (yes i know its gsm, im jumping ships) | 16:49 |
| hyc | why are you holding out for a phone with barely any specs known? | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:49 |
| xda-Squirrels | my contract is u around end of year, and im poor til next year ;p | 16:49 |
| xda-Squirrels | so i wont be able to get a phone til around the time thats likely to come out | 16:49 |
| xda-Squirrels | if all else fails, evo 3d gsm should be out by then | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy has that phone | 16:49 |
| xda-Squirrels | i dont care for the 3d | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | i really don't think i can handle no kbd | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | the keyboard on the raph was cramped | 16:50 |
| xda-Squirrels | yeah but not many good spec'd phones have a keyboard anymore | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | on the rhod, it's freak gorgeous. | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | freakin* | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 16:50 |
| hyc | http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_ruby_for_tmobile_specifications_leak-news-2998.php | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what's up with that... | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | new mytouch? | 16:50 |
| xda-Squirrels | i want a dual-core phone with 1gb ram that has a keyboard, go go htc, make it so | 16:50 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | hrm no | 16:51 |
| hyc | yeah, I'm not so worried about dual-core in a phone, but since everyone's going that direction, I'm ok with it | 16:51 |
| hyc | but yeah, gotta have a good keyboard | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | quad core comin up :D | 16:51 |
| xda-Squirrels | oo sexy | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | but yea, i'm not going to budge on the kbd thing. i'll keep limping along with the TP2 | 16:51 |
| hyc | actually I think the TP2 keyboard is too wide. the G1 keyboard was nice, can easily operate the entire keyboard one-handed. | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy keeps telling me to give up, they've stopped making phones with kb's. | 16:51 |
| hyc | with the TP2 I can't reach from one side to the other side with one thumb | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea the g1 was way smaller | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | heh it's definitely designed for two handed action. | 16:52 |
| hyc | yah, IMO that's a mistake in a phone design | 16:53 |
| hyc | you can of course use both hands on the G1 if you like | 16:53 |
| hyc | but when you only have one hand free, the G1 is still usable, the TP2 not so much | 16:53 |
| hyc | and these new phones with 4.5" to 5" screens - too big for a pocket. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea, they're nice slates | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | but not good phones | 16:54 |
| hyc | this looks promising http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i927_galaxy_s_ii-4071.php | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | sgs2 | 16:55 |
| hyc | but it's only a 4-row kbd | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | woah | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | sammy's never really done good kb's | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | look at how they're aligned... not staggered at all. | 16:56 |
| hyc | I thought their epic looked ok, don't remember now | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i hear it's not that great to type on | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | i played with it, i thought the RHOD was better... but the epic is also 5-row if i'm not mistaken. | 16:56 |
| phh | [22:57:17] <xda-Squirrels> i want a dual-core phone with 1gb ram that has a keyboard, go go htc, make it so <-------- i want an omap4 in my TP2 ! | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | phh, do eeeet | 16:58 |
| hyc | yeah, kinda 5-row, dedicated numeric row anyway http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SPH-D700ZKASPR | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | woah | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | pm disable works awesome, assuming you use it correctly :D | 17:00 |
| hyc | lol | 17:00 |
| hyc | most things are great when you do them correctly :D | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | seriously, phone is much faster now | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | zing! | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | so true. | 17:00 |
| hyc | yeah, this is all those autostart manager apps do | 17:01 |
| hyc | I watched logcat while one of them was running | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 17:01 |
| hyc | and screw that shit, I'm not paying real money for an app that just spawns a stupid commandline | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't it be easier to just let an app do it for me? or was the app sub-par...? | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | it was a paid app lol | 17:01 |
| hyc | yeah | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | agreed :D | 17:02 |
| hyc | People expect to get paid for writing the most trivial shit. | 17:02 |
| hyc | f' 'em all. | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | ok, i'll probably write up a thread on this. i want to pull a tiad8 and give people a list of how to tweak shit to get better performance. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | but like real advice. no fluff | 17:03 |
| hyc | come on, if it's not loaded with UPPER CASE EXCLAMATIONS no one will read it | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | CHECK | 17:04 |
| hyc | bah. http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_prime-3877.php | 17:06 |
| hyc | only 512M ram, no card slot, wp7 | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like the Pro7 | 17:06 |
| hyc | they only need to fix a couple things and it would be a great android phone | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | i also tweaked those minfree settings | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | this is fantastic. | 17:07 |
| hyc | yeah, me too | 17:07 |
| hyc | loving it | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think it would make that big of a difference | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | but those few things | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | the pm disable (which was a bit of a PITA) | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | the minfree | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | and i am oc'd... | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | this is smooth | 17:08 |
| hyc | yeah, it's actually a really nice system when it's tuned up | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | new Market is workin well | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | seems to download apps at a fairly reasonable speed... | 17:09 |
| hyc | eh. just download one at a time | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | that wasn't enough on the old Market | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | even one at a time was painfully slow | 17:09 |
| xda-Squirrels | yeah downloading even one occasionally locks up the phone for a few seconds, then it chugs along for a little bit again, choppy | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | xda-Squirrels, new Market has none of that for me | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | especially after these speed tweaks, incredible. | 17:11 |
| xda-Squirrels | do want | 17:12 |
| hyc | it's all about ram | 17:12 |
| hyc | let the ram get full, it will get choppy again | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | xda-Squirrels, i think i'm going to post a thread up | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, in theory with the tweaks I did, RAM won't get full... | 17:12 |
| xda-Squirrels | delicious | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | i probably need to play with a few settings | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | to see what yields the best results | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f4/autokiller-configuring-androids-internal-task-killer-31867/ | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | scroll past the app crap | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | can't even spell moderate correctly | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | Configuring androids internal task killer | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | start there ^^ | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | seems to be a pretty good explanation of how Android works in respect to keeping things tidy | 17:14 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | integrating Arabic into Android isn't as easy as I was hoping it would be. | 17:25 |
| xda-Squirrels | nap time cause im a lazy sloth | 17:25 |
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| arrrghhh | com.android.protips/.ProtipWidget | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | can i disable that? | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | well i've cut it down to the basic google crap at this oint | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | point* | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i can just start disabling stuff and see what blows up... | 18:55 |
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| hyc | I leave calendar and clock alive, so alarms and appointments work | 19:12 |
| hyc | most other stuff is off | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | market is ok to kill | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | vending or whatever | 19:12 |
| hyc | yeah | 19:13 |
| hyc | unless you have auto-update on and you want it to work | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | voice dialer? quick search box? | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | there's still so much it seems. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | it's significantly better | 19:13 |
| hyc | I never use either of those either, both disabled | 19:13 |
| stinebd | hyc | 19:13 |
| stinebd | i need your professional advice | 19:14 |
| hyc | 42 | 19:14 |
| stinebd | too much | 19:14 |
| stinebd | need less | 19:14 |
| stinebd | whole universe is outside my scope | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:14 |
| stinebd | http://trimslice.com/web/ what do you think about a tegra as a low power server to handle mostly mail+spamassassin and a tiny amount of apache | 19:15 |
| stinebd | nobody else here seems to play with hardware | 19:15 |
| hyc | tegra huh. hmmm | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | eh what i would want that to do is pretty different from what you would want sir stine | 19:16 |
| stinebd | also it may or may not be doing nat depending on how i feel about it | 19:16 |
| hyc | sounds like that should be an ok workload for it | 19:16 |
| stinebd | the nat isn't a problem since the same hardware is used for realtime packet switching solutions | 19:16 |
| hyc | most internet links are slow enough, 25MHz pentiums used to do that kind of work | 19:16 |
| stinebd | yeah | 19:16 |
| stinebd | basically what i have now is a single core amd athlon64 slim desktop | 19:17 |
| stinebd | which is loud, hot and power hungry | 19:17 |
| stinebd | so i want to ditch it and go with one of those and a usb hard drive or something | 19:17 |
| hyc | hm, could be a nice little HTPC too | 19:17 |
| stinebd | well that's what it's marketed as | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | but no gfx accel | 19:18 |
| hyc | GEforce | 19:18 |
| stinebd | there is | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not supported yet i thought? | 19:18 |
| stinebd | it's not in their releases yet though | 19:18 |
| hyc | oh | 19:18 |
| stinebd | they have working code for it | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | oh, ic | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize they had code working for it | 19:18 |
| stinebd | so you have to download a package for whatever distro you're using | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:18 |
| stinebd | it's pretty hackish though | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | does it have IR? | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't see it | 19:19 |
| stinebd | no | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | that kinda suxxors. | 19:19 |
| stinebd | not really | 19:19 |
| stinebd | it has 4x usb and those cheap mce ir blasters are like 5 bucks on ebay | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'd want to control it with a remote if it was going to do the media streaming role my server has | 19:19 |
| stinebd | ah receivers are cheap too | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i've never used 'em on computers, are they pretty easy to use? | 19:20 |
| stinebd | or you could get one that does both | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i have a harmony remote. | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | just want to send commands to it | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | like grate me cheese | 19:20 |
| stinebd | piece of cake | 19:20 |
| stinebd | lirc ftw | 19:20 |
| stinebd | in is easier than out at least | 19:21 |
| stinebd | it was a pain in the ass programming my blaster to fire commands at the stupid set top cable boxes we have to use now | 19:21 |
| hyc | rt3070, hm they're using the same wifi module as the AI Touchbook | 19:22 |
| stinebd | i'd get the base model | 19:22 |
| stinebd | no stupid wifi crap | 19:22 |
| stinebd | i don't need the fbi listening in on me | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:23 |
| hyc | yeah I guess you don't really need it for an htpc with gigE | 19:23 |
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| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. that sounds like it'd be a great htpc. it'd replace 2 things in my entertainment center. | 19:23 |
| stinebd | the kensington lock port is amusing | 19:23 |
| hyc | 1680x1050 limit on DVI is kind of underwhelming | 19:23 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i'd hold off for the drivers honestly | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | only other hurdle is surround sound | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | that was always a PITA it seems | 19:24 |
| hyc | 5.1 audio out | 19:24 |
| hyc | I have a 7 channel yamaha amp already | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea i use toslink | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | but getting it to work, i was never able to do. | 19:25 |
| stinebd | i have a feeling i should get commission from these guys for sending you all there | 19:25 |
| hyc | ahhhh | 19:25 |
| hyc | yeah I can't feed an HDMI audio into my amp | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | good point, i can't either. | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | i would do hdmi to the tv | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | optical to the amp | 19:25 |
| hyc | right | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | that's how the PS3 is setup right now | 19:25 |
| stinebd | arc ftw | 19:25 |
| stinebd | screw optical | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | i want to get a new amp, but there's no huge need. | 19:26 |
| hyc | hm, video decoder is on block diagram, but note says it's not included | 19:27 |
| hyc | so no video input | 19:27 |
| stinebd | it's on the dev models only i think | 19:27 |
| hyc | I'd get the one with the HD bay | 19:29 |
| stinebd | hmm | 19:30 |
| hyc | but if you already have some kind of NAS I guess it's unnecessary | 19:35 |
| stinebd | going by the forums it seems the internal ssd (in supported models) is hooked on the usb | 19:41 |
| stinebd | is it common on that kind of hardware? | 19:42 |
| hyc | very common yes, everything goes onto USB typically | 20:00 |
| hyc | of course that means you'll probably get better disk performance using a NAS than a local disk | 20:05 |
| hyc | so mebbe the HD bay isn't a must-have after all | 20:05 |
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| arrrghhh | alrighty | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | posted all my propaganda | 20:23 |
| xda-Squirrels | orly | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | it's all lies tho | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 20:28 |
| xda-Squirrels | delicious | 20:29 |
| xda-Squirrels | lies means cake | 20:29 |
| xda-Squirrels | or wait... other way ;) | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'm curious to see what people say are good minfree values | 20:29 |
| xda-Squirrels | either way brb, making nummies for mah tummy (Beef stroganoff) | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | and what other tweaks people come up with | 20:29 |
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| xda-Squirrels | i'll be toying with some of that stuff when i finish making my foods | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | k | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | crap i just thought of some more | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | animations | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | launcher | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | poop | 20:31 |
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| stinebd | oh god arrrghhh trying to do real dev work | 20:35 |
| stinebd | this should be a hoot | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't real dev work | 20:35 |
| stinebd | Difficulty Moderate - Overclocking | 20:36 |
| stinebd | lol | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | hey, you push that too far it'll blow up your shite | 20:36 |
| stinebd | moderate | 20:37 |
| stinebd | what counts as easy? breathing? | 20:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | yep | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | basically | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes that can be difficult, depending on the user | 20:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | You are now breathing manually. | 20:37 |
| stinebd | STEP ONE TO SUPER FAST PHONE! DIFFICULTY EASY! PRESS POWER BUTTON TO TURN ON PHONE!!! | 20:37 |
| stinebd | step 2 is moderate and involves a tennis ball launcher | 20:38 |
| stinebd | also quite fast | 20:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | :P | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | i prefer a sling-shot device | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | to each their own | 20:39 |
| xda-Squirrels | im so ghetto | 20:44 |
| xda-Squirrels | using a big metal pizza pan as a cover for my skillet to simmer the food | 20:44 |
| stinebd | that's not ghetto at all | 20:45 |
| stinebd | ghetto would be using that pizza pan over a series of george foreman grills | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | how about over a burning oil drum | 20:47 |
| stinebd | that's hobo | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | o right | 20:47 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol | 20:48 |
| xda-Squirrels | i acquired old pots and skillets when i moved out a few years back and i never got around to buy a full set | 20:49 |
| xda-Squirrels | perhaps when i climb out of debt at the end of the year lol | 20:49 |
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| arrrghhh | hey it's that guy who does everything on his phone | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | you're like a really selective, really bad Amish person. | 20:51 |
| Xofrats | What | 20:51 |
| Xofrats | No, Amish do not use computers | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea neither do you | 20:51 |
| Xofrats | I don't drive a horse and buggy | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | damnit... | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | like vegetarian vs vegan | 20:52 |
| Xofrats | I tried cross-compiling, and got a -dirty kernel.... Same patch and everything | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | what shall we call you... | 20:52 |
| stinebd | dirty means it's got uncommitted changes | 20:52 |
| Xofrats | Hmmm, how to commit locally then? | 20:52 |
| stinebd | git commit -a | 20:53 |
| Xofrats | Ahh, k | 20:53 |
| Xofrats | BTW, that buildscript is a bit braindead | 20:53 |
| Xofrats | When I tried to -j3 it decided to build the module before the kernel | 20:53 |
| Xofrats | Kind of like putting the carriage in front of the horse | 20:53 |
| stinebd | the kernel build system? | 20:54 |
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| Xofrats | No, build.sh on the facebook page | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | that's what you get for getting build.sh's from facebook. | 20:54 |
| stinebd | uh yeah | 20:54 |
| Xofrats | 1536,3072,8192,10240,12288,20480 | 20:55 |
| Xofrats | That's my minfree | 20:55 |
| Detule | hi stinebd i was wondering if you are open to suggestions for touch ups to liblights | 20:55 |
| stinebd | i use my own braindead build script which parallelizes fine | 20:55 |
| stinebd | but i haven't built my own kernel in ages | 20:56 |
| stinebd | Detule: yes | 20:56 |
| Xofrats | Yeah, I had to end up breaking up the make zImage/module/etc. into separate lines | 20:56 |
| stinebd | Detule: note that all patches to our stuff should be git formatted | 20:56 |
| Xofrats | Detule: send me the patch to lights | 20:57 |
| stinebd | that way we can maintain credit to you for initial development | 20:57 |
| Detule | noted | 20:57 |
| Detule | Xofrats, i'll send the kernel patch to the ml tomorrow | 20:57 |
| Detule | i don't have the xdandroid environment updated so i can't write the liblights patch | 20:57 |
| Xofrats | Compiling the kernel on a atom n450 still took about an hour | 20:58 |
| Xofrats | Slightly better than the ~3 it takes on the phone | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | 3 hour compile time | 20:58 |
| Xofrats | You know how big the kernel directory becomes after a compile? | 20:59 |
| stinebd | ok | 20:59 |
| Xofrats | 900mb... | 20:59 |
| stinebd | kernel compiling on an atom and msm7k | 20:59 |
| stinebd | you realize that's basically the equivalent of driving around in a horse and buggy right? | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 20:59 |
| Xofrats | I don't drive a horse and a buggy | 20:59 |
| stinebd | technologically you do | 21:00 |
| stinebd | don't feel bad, arrrghhh uses a cdma network | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 21:00 |
| Xofrats | My C2D7200 is somewhere else right now, and the battery is completely dead on it anyway | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | so does he | 21:00 |
| stinebd | oh | 21:00 |
| stinebd | feel bad then | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | i <3 the dark ages | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | they're cheap | 21:00 |
| xda-Squirrels | raph800, fear my leet cdma networkz | 21:01 |
| xda-Squirrels | aka *rams face into desk* | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 21:01 |
| * Xofrats smacks squirrel in the nutz | 21:01 | |
| xda-Squirrels | soon, i'll get one of those phones, on a gsm network | 21:01 |
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| arrrghhh | seems everyone is going to LTE | 21:01 |
| stinebd | how soon? | 21:01 |
| Starfox | -NickServ- You have 30 seconds to identify to your nickname before it is changed. | 21:01 |
| xda-Squirrels | there is a provider in this area i wanna try a gsm phone on, aseems legit | 21:01 |
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| stinebd | great game | 21:01 |
| xda-Squirrels | probably around december or january | 21:01 |
| stinebd | cant wait for sf64 | 21:02 |
| stinebd | again | 21:02 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol | 21:02 |
| Xofrats | BTW, how does git commit deal with the compcache kernel patch, can I tell it to ignore it or do I have to unpatch before commit? | 21:02 |
| stinebd | compcache is a module | 21:02 |
| stinebd | you build that outside the kernel tree | 21:02 |
| Xofrats | There is a kernel patch | 21:03 |
| stinebd | why? | 21:03 |
| Xofrats | Inside 0.5.4 | 21:03 |
| Xofrats | swap notify | 21:03 |
| stinebd | apply it and git commit | 21:03 |
| stinebd | dirty kernel really isn't a huge issue btw | 21:03 |
| Xofrats | BRB, rebooting to ubuntu amd64 | 21:04 |
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| stinebd | wow 64 bits | 21:05 |
| stinebd | guy's going all year 2000 on us | 21:05 |
| * arrrghhh looks at his 32-bit server | 21:05 | |
| stinebd | 64-bitness is a waste on a server | 21:06 |
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| stinebd | blows up your ram | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess the hardware is capable of 64-bitsness | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm not using it | 21:06 |
| stinebd | good choice | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | i don't want my RAM to blow up, exactly. | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | my single core via 1.5GHz 32-bit rawks out with its cawk out | 21:06 |
| stinebd | i just schooled you | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | xda-Squirrels, settle down thar | 21:07 |
| stinebd | he's talking about a rooster | 21:07 |
| stinebd | relax | 21:07 |
| xda-Squirrels | *crits his furr* | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 21:07 |
| stinebd | it ejects a rooster on every boot | 21:07 |
| xda-Squirrels | BACAWWWW | 21:07 |
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| Xofrats | I is back | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | crap | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | i mean, welcome back | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | i want your kernel to have that fancy new notification poop | 21:09 |
| xda-Squirrels | ;) | 21:09 |
| Xofrats | my kernel does not poop | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | it does on my phone | 21:09 |
| Xofrats | must be your phone | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | must be your face | 21:10 |
| Xofrats | Meh, irc'ing through adb shell ain't fun, brb | 21:10 |
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| arrrghhh | irc thru adb shell | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | heathen | 21:10 |
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| Xofrats | Okay, a bit better. | 21:11 |
| Xofrats | Where do I put the contributor stuff in git? | 21:15 |
| xda-Squirrels | time to tinker with stuff aka break shit | 21:19 |
| Detule | Xofrats, .git/config | 21:24 |
| Xofrats | thnx | 21:24 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, what do you think about better int'l support....? | 21:34 |
| Xofrats | Engrish should be the standard language | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | i obviously have no desire for it, but we certainly don't have anything on the wiki or really anywhere i know on how to at least change crap | 21:34 |
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| arrrghhh | i'm not saying defaults be changed | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | just a page on the wiki on how-to change out to other languages | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | because some seem easier than others | 21:34 |
| Xofrats | I have it running Japanese on mine | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | one dude was asking about arabic, i figured it would be pretty easy... doesn't seem like it when i actually started digging into it. | 21:35 |
| Xofrats | RTL is always a pain | 21:35 |
| Xofrats | Because most OS doesn't know how to deal with it | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | even w/o RTL | 21:35 |
| Xofrats | Anyway, time for me to go | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | just arabic i couldn't figure out | 21:35 |
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| arrrghhh | cool, peace | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:35 |
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| xda-Squirrels | wowwwww.... | 21:36 |
| xda-Squirrels | Windows locked up on me/. | 21:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | wretched technology | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | why do you sound surprised -_- | 21:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | ;p | 21:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | not often windows 7 freezes on me | 21:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | it hard locked, screen frozen, num lock stuck on, no input accepted | 21:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | was lame-a-saur | 21:38 |
| xda-Squirrels | going step by step, to gauge what helps the most with my phones speed. starting with OC | 21:39 |
| xda-Squirrels | previously i left errthang at stock clocks | 21:39 |
| xda-Squirrels | running at 19200*37, seems fine so far | 21:39 |
| Detule | stinebd, here's a kernel with blink support zImage: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?l4myr2lrrmg5k4q modules: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?l4myr2lrrmg5k4q | 21:39 |
| Detule | it has a blink attribute in sys/class/leds/color (color = amber/green) | 21:40 |
| Detule | echoing to it while brightness > 0 for the same color will cause it to blink | 21:40 |
| Detule | i *think* that's how liblights expects it to be set up | 21:41 |
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| xda-Squirrels | . | 22:57 |
| xda-Squirrels | well 710400 freq seems stable enough on raph800 as well | 22:58 |
| xda-Squirrels | been goin for an hour and a half with no issues | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 22:59 |
| xda-Squirrels | indeed | 22:59 |
| xda-Squirrels | gonna do the pm disable after this tf2 game | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea that's a fun adventure | 23:00 |
| xda-Squirrels | doesnt aseem too bad | 23:01 |
| xda-Squirrels | kk fun time | 23:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | pretty sure i have sdk installed on this comp | 23:16 |
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| xda-Squirrels | guess not, installing lol | 23:38 |
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