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| valyk | heya all | 09:06 |
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| derbnogod | Has anyone gotten frx07 to boot on a raph800? | 09:42 |
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| ryannathans | so my ssd fried itself 3 hours after installing windows | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | it wasnt even a day old | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | so, i couldnt look at frx07 today | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | imad. | 11:16 |
| ryannathans | tomorrow maybe. | 11:16 |
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| f00bar80 | FRX07_Full_Bundle_20110715 on touch pro 2, after your suggestions i've got the audio in outgoing calls working fine but not the incoming calls unless i turn on the speaker, that's after i've set vibration to 'always' and disabled dialpad tone, now what .. any comment ? | 11:52 |
| f00bar80 | i've checked forum and found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692&page=264 not sure if this gonna to work on TP2 | 12:05 |
| f00bar80 | ppl any comment ? | 12:37 |
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| arrrghhh | f00bar80, we've gone over this 1,000 times | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | audio routing is flaky, at best. | 13:11 |
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| arrrghhh | assuming the phone isn't set to vibrate-only (or silent mode) it *should* work ok. | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | but no guarantees. | 13:11 |
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| derbnogod | Has anyone gotten frx07 to boot on a raph800? (I get the tty error loop) | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | derbnogod, did you read the thread? | 13:15 |
| derbnogod | The frx07 thread, yeah. Its a known issue | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | there's some "solutions" | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't know what definitively works | 13:15 |
| derbnogod | What is blocking, can I provide some feedback? | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get my tester 800 to boot at all, but i think that's another issue | 13:16 |
| derbnogod | The older kernel didn't work for me. At all. | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 13:16 |
| derbnogod | It no longer tty loops, but won't boot either | 13:16 |
| derbnogod | Stock full frx07 | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | ok so you went to an older kernel | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | did you try an older rootfs? | 13:17 |
| derbnogod | Nope, do they need to match? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | kernel (zImage) & modules needs to match | 13:19 |
| derbnogod | Ah, alright, ill move back a few rootfs versions and report back | 13:19 |
| Drew_ | what is stored in the rootfs? | 13:20 |
| derbnogod | Anything else I worth knocking around while I'm testing? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | Drew_, everything that's in / basically | 13:20 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, what's the choice for vibration which i have to use then ? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | that's not in /system or /data | 13:21 |
| Drew_ | hmm so would someone store thinks that would effect wifi and such in there? | 13:21 |
| Drew_ | like drivers? | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:21 |
| Drew_ | or is that strictly modules and kernel | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | modules & kernel provide the drivers | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs has stuff like keymaps | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | there's some binaries in there i think for /bin | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not entirely sure what is all in the rootfs | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | but it covers /, i know that | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | (not /system or /data obviously) | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, what phone do you have again? | 13:24 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, RHOD210 | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 has a RHOD300, and evidently had similar issues | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | he pushed a patch, i'll see about getting it mainline. | 13:25 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, which patch ? | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | don't worry about it | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try to get wistilt2 to get it to mainline. | 13:27 |
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| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, i've tried now and set the vibration to never and silent mode is already disabled, always can't hear sound unless i turn on speaker, also when turning on speaker on and back off i can hear voice normally. | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | then you have a workaround | 13:31 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, But what's the reason of that? Or how I can get it working normally ?? | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | FUCK | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i've told you, as others have told you | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's an issue with the audio routing | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's a kernel only affair | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | there's no input from userland | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | so the kernel is basically doing its best to GUESS where the audio should be routed | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't always do a good job | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's a messy fucking hack | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | so it doesn't work perfectly | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | so you know the reason, yet you still ask | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | how can you get it to work normally, use winmo, wait for the patch, try the experimental audio routing, or learn C and fix all this shit yourself. | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | patches welcome if you take the last choice :D | 13:34 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, i just sent you an email about your email... sorry i wasn't clear on the issue. | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's frustrating, since so many people report different issues. they all seem to center around the radio/RIL tho... | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | in my feeble estimation. | 13:36 |
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| valyk | heya people | 13:49 |
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| valyk | i wanna ask you something | 13:49 |
| valyk | which is the best amdroid pc manager? | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | what's a PC Manager? | 13:49 |
| valyk | android* | 13:49 |
| valyk | file manager | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | I like Astro | 13:49 |
| valyk | sync | 13:49 |
| valyk | phone-pc | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what you mean by sync | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | Droid Explorer if you're on Windoze | 13:50 |
| valyk | droid explorer si one i use now | 13:50 |
| valyk | but i can't make changes to my files with it | 13:50 |
| fishingmedic | first random reboot to winmo in a few days arrrghhh, just sitting here charging like normal, nothing changed and I saw it reboot. WTF... | 13:50 |
| valyk | :| | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | valyk, what? | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, it happens... | 13:51 |
| valyk | i want to modify some libraries | 13:51 |
| valyk | but i can't do nothing to them | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | i had a bunch when i first installed FRX07. haven't had a few in a while | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | valyk, adb | 13:51 |
| valyk | using droid explorer | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | if it doesn't work using droid explorer | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | you'll have to use adb | 13:52 |
| fishingmedic | nah, getting much much better, I go days without them. Believe me, I ain't complaining. | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | what are you trying to do | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, i know. | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you were at first, then i saw who it was :P | 13:52 |
| valyk | :( | 13:52 |
| valyk | adb's not working for me | 13:52 |
| valyk | damn | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | if adb doesn't work | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | Droid Explorer won't work | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | Droid Explorer depends on adb to work.. | 13:53 |
| valyk | where to put the adb exe | 13:53 |
| valyk | to work | 13:53 |
| valyk | ? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | IT COMES WITH DROID EXPLORER | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | c:\program files\droid explorer\sdk\tools\adb.exe | 13:54 |
| valyk | nothing happens when i double click on it | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | you're dumb. | 13:56 |
| Drew_ | noob aler | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i can help you | 13:56 |
| Drew_ | alert* | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | valyk, adb is an advanced too you use thru the command line | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | if you can't grasp that concept, don't even bother. | 13:56 |
| valyk | yeah | 13:59 |
| valyk | well | 13:59 |
| valyk | thanks for making me a dumb | 13:59 |
| valyk | so what | 13:59 |
| valyk | i'm somehow noob | 13:59 |
| valyk | if someone won't explain to me | 13:59 |
| valyk | i won't understand | 13:59 |
| valyk | even you weren't born like knowing all stuff | 14:00 |
| valyk | don't ya think so | 14:00 |
| Drew_ | http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android/ | 14:00 |
| Drew_ | there is a link on how to do all that you ask | 14:01 |
| Drew_ | try google next time | 14:01 |
| fishingmedic | seriously, I'm as noob as they come and I figured it out by googling and reading. | 14:02 |
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| valyk | thanks Drew | 14:03 |
| valyk | i'll read it all | 14:03 |
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| arrrghhh | valyk, that's the point | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | if you can't be bothered to read this stuff in the first place, why should i bother explaining it? | 14:11 |
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| arrrghhh | no body was born knowing this stuff. there's still a lot i don't know - but i've always been more than willing to learn, read, and google all on my own. | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | if there's something i'm struggling with after exhausting all of my own devices for learning, then i ask. | 14:14 |
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| arrrghhh_ | farkin tether | 14:35 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: so a raph800 tester around ... ok was it seems.. | 14:40 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, i have a RAPH800 sitting beside me | 14:41 |
| emwe | now you get that other thing up. it's called hyc. :) | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | he's going to be very busy for a while it seems | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | till october at least he said... | 14:45 |
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| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, just for info i've got it working both in/outgoing by enabling vibration only when not in silent mode, decreased the ringtone volume and unchecked enable volume for notification, i have another question nothing can be done to enhance the battery life ? | 14:51 |
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| arrrghhhTP2 | Make sure the phone sleeps when it's 'off' (green led) | 14:52 |
| emwe | stinebd: we can't use just any present keypad layout. topa needs send/menu/back also | 14:53 |
| emwe | stinebd: i quickly did a querty.kl for topa pushed in a "topa" folder. worksforme. if you haven't started the refactoring madness, i can push. and later on - giving my bash-a-bility is good - push a little init change as well | 14:54 |
| emwe | stinebd: what's that WAKEDROPPED? | 14:55 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhhTP2, it's most of the time greene but sometimes it's red and for a couple of minutes then back again to green, this is can be due to 3G enabled ? | 14:56 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I've got a meeting, I have to go | 14:56 |
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| emwe | f00bar80: if tehre are background apps running, e.g. syncing data, then yes, the device is awake. | 14:57 |
| emwe | battery life is ever since worse. | 14:57 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, how to know if there's any background apps ?, i thought gmail maybe suncing ,... but it's not most of the time | 14:59 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, i've tried top to check the running processes, but i think most of them are system level processes | 15:00 |
| emwe | it's not most of the time? | 15:01 |
| emwe | it's got a steady connection if background sync is on | 15:01 |
| emwe | what device are you on? | 15:01 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, TP2 RHOD210 | 15:02 |
| emwe | hehe... you should get a device with a even "smaller" battery. then you should complain | 15:03 |
| emwe | i came from topa and then got the rhod400... i am not complaining, really :) | 15:03 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, what's max standby/call time | 15:03 |
| emwe | dunno | 15:03 |
| emwe | i am running on .35 kernel which is not that mcuh comparable to .27, yet. | 15:04 |
| emwe | think i can do 24h standby? | 15:04 |
| emwe | dunno. i constantly have adb running, even at work. | 15:04 |
| emwe | so i am not just letting it lying around. | 15:04 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, so what do you suggest as sometimes i can't reach the 6 hours standby with the led always between green and red when i'm not touching the device | 15:07 |
| emwe | 6 hours only? | 15:08 |
| emwe | that's tough. | 15:08 |
| emwe | expected some 24 hours on .27 kernel at leats | 15:08 |
| emwe | least | 15:08 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, now it should be in standby i didn't touch for more than 10 minutes and it has the led red | 15:11 |
| emwe | red? | 15:11 |
| emwe | it should be green instantly | 15:11 |
| emwe | do you have gps enabled? | 15:11 |
| emwe | it must be green rather instantly when panel is off | 15:11 |
| emwe | apart from waking from time to time for background work... | 15:12 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, i've mentioned above i have 3G enabled | 15:12 |
| emwe | doesn't matter. i do have too all day with bg-sync | 15:12 |
| emwe | is gps on? | 15:12 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, how to check ? | 15:12 |
| emwe | location settings? | 15:13 |
| emwe | or power ctl widget | 15:13 |
| emwe | if gps is enabled on froyo, the device won't sleep | 15:13 |
| emwe | still need to look into this also.... | 15:13 |
| f00bar80 | emq, also if "use wireless networks" is enabled | 15:13 |
| emwe | no, that's fine | 15:14 |
| f00bar80 | emwe k cook i've disabled GPS, let me leave for a while and see | 15:14 |
| emwe | it should turn led green quite instantly. | 15:14 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, it did , then red for 2 seconds , then back again to green | 15:15 |
| emwe | ok, now green more or less constant? | 15:15 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, yea | 15:15 |
| emwe | sleep with gps enabled works on gingerbread magically ;) | 15:16 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, xdandroid still not yet have gingerbread .. ? | 15:16 |
| Drew_ | why would it take about 25 seconds for my phone to go into deep sleep? | 15:17 |
| Drew_ | no GPS is not enabled | 15:17 |
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| f00bar80 | emwe, unless i put the device in standby using the power button, the panel is off but led keeps red | 15:34 |
| emwe | f00bar80: so you say, if you put the device aside when awake and let it have power off panel on itself, it stays awake? (led still red) | 15:38 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, the panel/screen is off but led still red | 15:39 |
| emwe | hm, so if you "suspend" with power button it sleeps but not if you let it fall asleep on its own? | 15:40 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, yea | 15:40 |
| emwe | huh... that's entirely new to me... | 15:40 |
| emwe | never heard of that. | 15:40 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, it's now green, but lets say it took 7 minutes to be green. | 15:43 |
| emwe | hm. either data was still active, or dunno. | 15:43 |
| emwe | can you try to reproduce with 3g off or even airplane mode? | 15:44 |
| emwe | just to check what might be it... | 15:44 |
| emwe | any other apps which do sync regularly? news/weather widgets, rss readers? | 15:44 |
| f00bar80 | emwe, news/weather widget | 15:49 |
| emwe | in any case.. try airplane mode just to know. | 15:50 |
| emwe | the big showstopper is gps though. if that is enabled, it won't sleep in froyo | 15:50 |
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| arrrghhh | f00bar80, something must be syncing | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | some stupid failbook app or something. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | Drew_, what build/kernel/rootfs are you on where it's taking 25 sec to sleep? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | that would be 'expected' if an app was running and took a while to give up what it was doing. | 15:58 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh. i've just asked how to know these apps if any is syncing ? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | systempanel lite is the app i use | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | to see if there's stuff running | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | if you have sync and bg data enabled | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | you will have apps waking to use that | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | which certainly will harm battery life | 15:59 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, the "end call" button doesn't do that ? | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | but i can go much longer than 6 hours on a single charge, assuming i'm not making lots of calls/using lots of data | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, the end call button is home | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | so... it 'minimizes' all apps. if they still ask for stuff, they will still run. | 16:00 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, when i press and hold it, it shows the running apps | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | Android will only boot them out of memory if more memory is needed | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | NO | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | it shows RECENT apps | 16:00 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, and systempanel allows me to end Apps? | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | but keep in mind, if the app is a service and you kill it | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | android will just start it right back up (usually) | 16:01 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, systempanel closes apps by using kill ? if yes somebody else have mentioned before on this channel, that google said not good to use task killer it's better to leave for android to manage it | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:02 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, so is it good to use this systempanel or any alike app or not ?!!! | 16:03 |
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| emwe | you can kill them. it's just not recommended. it's not about how many apps are running, but rather what they do | 16:13 |
| emwe | android tries to keep as many apps "loaded" as possible. | 16:13 |
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| arrrghhh | f00bar80, don't use any app to kill other apps... that's what google has recommended | 16:14 |
| emwe | if it deems an app worth killing it does so by telling it to serialize it's state and tears it down. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | the only reason you should kill any app is if you feel it's killing sleep. in which case i would consider removing the app. | 16:14 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, how i can reboot to android ? or it's not support and i have to pass by winMo | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | the latter | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | soft reset to WinMo & relaunch Android | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | there's ways to reboot Android, but they never really turn out well... | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, can you bundle up that patch in a kernel+modules for me to release? | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | i can post threads in the RHOD and TOPA section | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like to have sir f00bar80 test it out too, since he seems to get the issue fairly consistently. | 16:28 |
| emwe | uno minuto | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | take your time | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | thx :D | 16:29 |
| emwe | hm, didn't acl wan't to :) | 16:29 |
| emwe | anyway, got it already up on topa. just needs to calm down.. | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | i saw this from ACL | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | Do you know that dood F22 who used to make the builds? maybe he can cook one up so we can release.. | 16:30 |
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| arrrghhh | seems like he wants someone to take the patch and compile it in.. i am far too lazy to set that all up when you already have it :P | 16:30 |
| emwe | hasn't f22 been absent for quite a while? | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 16:30 |
| emwe | do user mind dirty modules? ;) | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't think ACL knows that :P | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | users don't care | 16:30 |
| emwe | k | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | so long as shit works :P | 16:30 |
| emwe | dropbox upload pending | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 16:31 |
| emwe | not tested yet ;) | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | you rebel | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | as i always say at work, no test like production | 16:31 |
| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, hey sir what do you me to test.. really i'm interested if i can help | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | patience young padowan | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i'm working on getting a kernel cooked up for ya, but i need to coordinate with several people. | 16:33 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: ok, patch doesn't fix topa incall. would have been toooo cool. | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think it would | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | that issue on TOPA seemed.. ahem, deep. | 16:35 |
| emwe | exactly. dunno how deep i shall dive without getting burried under log output | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:36 |
| emwe | i know where it fails... but dunno why | 16:36 |
| emwe | something waits for reconfiguration in AudioFlinger but that times out after 2 seconds and then boom by arm9. | 16:37 |
| emwe | has to be checked again later. wasted like 3 weeks diving into that. and then gave up. | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | it's a uniquely TOPA issue if it makes you feel any better... probably just makes ya feel worse. | 16:38 |
| emwe | arm9diag from jb could help i think | 16:38 |
| emwe | yap, and that monodie detection too | 16:38 |
| emwe | no luck on .35 | 16:38 |
| emwe | PITA. | 16:38 |
| emwe | skipping that as well. luckily i have no monodie ;) | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | don't even know what that is... meep. | 16:39 |
| emwe | 1x128mb memory banks with physical memory adress hole... so not contigiously adressed. newer topaz hw revisions have 1x256 memory bank. | 16:42 |
| emwe | that needs detection on machine init, very early. | 16:42 |
| emwe | so we tell kernel which physical memory adresses to use | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6984209&postcount=94 | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | sounds familiar. | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:43 |
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| emwe | oh geez is that long ago | 16:47 |
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| arrrghhh_ | i think it's my usb port actually | 16:47 |
| emwe | 22:47 <emwe> oh geez is that long ago | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh_ | that's not good if it's starting to flake... | 16:47 |
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| arrrghhh | 2010, eons ago in development terms :P | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | i was just googling for monodie, and found that thread... | 16:48 |
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| emwe | that's the thread i got my first donation bugs for ;) | 16:50 |
| emwe | bucks | 16:50 |
| Xethron | Hey guys. I was wondering. Are you guys just for non android phones, or the rooting of android phones too? | 16:50 |
| Xethron | I hate Samsungs version of Android. And I wish to upgrade to Gingerbread, but the native one... | 16:50 |
| phh | only for msm7201A based htc phones basically :p | 16:50 |
| emwe | the phh ;) | 16:51 |
| emwe | brb | 16:51 |
| Xethron | Google gave me a Samsung Galaxy Ace a week ago. But hate the skin its got on | 16:51 |
| Xethron | ah. :/ | 16:51 |
| Xethron | Could anyone point me in the right direction maybe? | 16:51 |
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| phh | you could just give it to me | 16:56 |
| phh | *ahum* | 16:56 |
| Xethron | haha | 16:56 |
| Xethron | ok, off to the search I am | 16:57 |
| phh | but search on xda's forums | 16:57 |
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| stinebd | [14:55:19] <emwe> stinebd: what's that WAKEDROPPED? | 17:09 |
| stinebd | it causes the device to wake, but does not react to the press | 17:09 |
| emwe | stinebd: ok. HOME has WAKEDROPPED but it resumes rhod and topa | 17:10 |
| stinebd | so say menu is set to WAKEDROPPED, if you press menu, android will pop the screen on (the kernel has to support that button for waking of course) but the screen will not unlocked | 17:10 |
| emwe | ah | 17:10 |
| stinebd | not be* | 17:11 |
| emwe | hm. | 17:11 |
| stinebd | that's according to the docs | 17:11 |
| emwe | i see different behaviour imho. | 17:11 |
| stinebd | who knows if it actually works that way | 17:11 |
| stinebd | if home is wakedropped, it will wake the device | 17:11 |
| emwe | all buttons wake the topa (power collapse interrupted) .. only POWER AND HOME enable home screen | 17:12 |
| stinebd | but again it won't generate the keypress event for android to handle | 17:12 |
| emwe | sorry | 17:12 |
| stinebd | all buttons waking topa is a kernel bug | 17:12 |
| stinebd | i would say | 17:12 |
| emwe | POWER and HOME enable lockscreen. | 17:12 |
| emwe | all the others interrupt suspend as long as the button is pressed, panel stays off | 17:12 |
| stinebd | ok | 17:13 |
| stinebd | so you want home to not be WAKEDROPPED then | 17:13 |
| emwe | it is. took it from rhods | 17:13 |
| emwe | but home and power get to lockscreen. even on rhod. | 17:13 |
| emwe | (gingerbread that is, though) | 17:13 |
| stinebd | actually | 17:13 |
| stinebd | i think we have it like that for a reason | 17:14 |
| emwe | i am fine with how it is | 17:14 |
| stinebd | the reason being that the power key breaks easily | 17:14 |
| stinebd | seems to be a common issue for htc devices | 17:14 |
| emwe | physical defect? i see. | 17:14 |
| stinebd | anyway yeah, it's the best setup imo | 17:15 |
| emwe | i mostly trap myself using end-call to see what's up. not power. | 17:15 |
| emwe | i just need to get that init changes done. what's the bash check for non-empty string as in at least one char? | 17:16 |
| stinebd | -z | 17:17 |
| stinebd | so if you want to check that a variable is set, [ ! -z $VAR ] && do stuff | 17:18 |
| emwe | stinebd: http://pastebin.com/WHi7zkfH | 17:24 |
| emwe | do i need to define that KBD with all the others (HW, WVGA, ...) at the top? | 17:25 |
| stinebd | 18-21 is totally unnecessary | 17:25 |
| stinebd | you can just have it overwrite the variable from above | 17:25 |
| stinebd | wait my brain is working backwards sorry | 17:27 |
| stinebd | anyway [ -z $KBD ] && KBD=`sed 's/.*physkeyboard=\([0-9a-z_]*\).*/\1/' /proc/cmdline` | 17:29 |
| stinebd | it looks fine | 17:30 |
| stinebd | so if you saw the logs what i want to do is have the device dependent stuff set automatically | 17:30 |
| stinebd | and then users can select a variant | 17:31 |
| emwe | yes, i was around and read that last night. | 17:31 |
| emwe | is that "[ cond ] && foo" a "if(cond) statement" thingy? | 17:31 |
| stinebd | for one-liners, yes | 17:31 |
| emwe | ah | 17:32 |
| stinebd | so you can use that for your FORCE_KBD switch | 17:32 |
| stinebd | save a couple lines | 17:32 |
| emwe | yap | 17:32 |
| emwe | thanks | 17:32 |
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| emwe | stinebd: ok, what i came up with and your init help does work. ok to commit these two patches? | 17:43 |
| emwe | (topa that is) | 17:43 |
| emwe | rhod still works, too ;) | 17:43 |
| stinebd | emwe: sure | 17:46 |
| emwe | stinebd: done. thanks for your help! | 17:49 |
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| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20110727-358bc80) at: http://is.gd/Z66w02 -- Changes at: http://is.gd/sjwN7D | 17:53 |
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| emwe | stinebd: is it intended that /sdcard/cache is mounted to /tmp *and* to /cache in init? | 18:45 |
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| stinebd | emwe for the logs: oops sorry, i passed out. yes it's intended | 19:25 |
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| hyc | anything new in audio routing land? I haven't tried a kernel with JB's latest code yet | 20:30 |
| hyc | the build I have, based on his previous snapshot, dies over time. | 20:31 |
| hyc | I was on a half-hour phone call, mic stopped working about 27 minutes into it | 20:31 |
| rpierce99 | afaik nothing new | 20:31 |
| hyc | bummer | 20:32 |
| rpierce99 | i mean i don't think anyone has integrated it into the new kernels, so maybe some stuff works better or worse, but the code itself i don't think has changed | 20:32 |
| hyc | right. nobody has posted a test kernel with his latest? | 20:32 |
| rpierce99 | no | 20:33 |
| rpierce99 | yours were the last i've seen | 20:33 |
| hyc | I guess I need to sync up a new build tree then | 20:34 |
| rpierce99 | i'm told you're too busy :P | 20:35 |
| hyc | been pretty busy yeah, just got back from a trip | 20:35 |
| rpierce99 | sweet, where to | 20:35 |
| hyc | another music camp ;) | 20:36 |
| rpierce99 | i'm teaching music stuff to 10-14 year old girls tomorrow and friday | 20:36 |
| rpierce99 | garageband and imove specifically | 20:36 |
| rpierce99 | gotta teach them how to autotune | 20:36 |
| rpierce99 | because that's what the world needs more of | 20:36 |
| hyc | Tehachapi. closer to home anyway | 20:36 |
| hyc | autotune, sounds cool ;) you're a music teacher? | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | nope | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | that's why it's only 2 days | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | i'm assisting at geek squad summer academy, even though i'm not in geek squad any more | 20:37 |
| hyc | ahhh. they have an academy for early teens? | 20:37 |
| rpierce99 | http://www.geeksquadacademy.com | 20:38 |
| hyc | my internet service is crapping out, page is loading slow... | 20:43 |
| hyc | 33% packet loss. they're sending a tech out tomorrow afternoon... | 20:43 |
| rpierce99 | not as bad as jonpry i bet | 20:44 |
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| SpecR | hi mates, ive just installed FRX07 form scrath and I get an error on screen OOPS smd_tty_buffer mismatch? is there a workaround for this? | 21:17 |
| rpierce99 | the new kernel rolls back the smd_tty_buffer patch | 21:17 |
| SpecR | the one from July 18th? | 21:18 |
| rpierce99 | sounds about right | 21:18 |
| rpierce99 | 07 came out on the 16th IIRC | 21:18 |
| SpecR | will try, tnx a lot | 21:18 |
| rpierce99 | upgrade rootfs too | 21:19 |
| SpecR | ok will do too | 21:20 |
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| SpecR | booting | 21:32 |
| SpecR | same error | 21:34 |
| rpierce99 | in the kernel comments it does say a raph800 has that issue, someone with a diam500 had that issue for a few minutes then it went away | 21:37 |
| SpecR | yes i will wait | 21:37 |
| rpierce99 | not sure exactly, i thought the 7/18 kernel was specifically to fix that issue | 21:37 |
| SpecR | yes, comments said that | 21:38 |
| SpecR | raph800 - endless "OOPS - smd_tty buffer mismatch?" loop | 21:38 |
| rpierce99 | what phone do you have | 21:39 |
| SpecR | raph800 | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | oh, well then that might be a problem | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | is that a cdma raph, i know that's a known issue | 21:40 |
| SpecR | just appeared in FRX07 | 21:40 |
| SpecR | ok, its been around 10mins, will boot into FRX06, hopefully the nex kernel will fix this | 21:45 |
| SpecR | tomorrow will try with the current kernel im using in FRX06, commit ge571620 | 21:54 |
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| arrrghhh | SpecR, it's not an FRX07 issue per se | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | it's a kernel issue | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | as noted | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | you should be able to go back to the 0622 kernel and be OK | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | people have reported crazy sluggishness. nothing solid tho, i'm not sure what's up. | 22:39 |
| SpecR | ill try that now | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | had one claim the new RIL hasn't successfully booted on a RAPH800 at all... | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | did you update FRX06 at all? | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | like when you were running it...? | 22:40 |
| SpecR | im at frx06 updated rootfs and kernel to 22/06, had to rollback initrd update | 22:41 |
| hyc | I wonder if the new RIL binary is compiled/linked badly | 22:41 |
| SpecR | what is RIL? | 22:45 |
| rpierce99 | we could have SpecR or someone with these probs bind mount the old ril and see | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | radio interface layer | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, but if he updated his rootfs | 22:46 |
| rpierce99 | er, don't think that would do it, it would still break badly | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | on like the 4/14 rootfs an older version of hyc's RIL was put in | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | and i've had a few guys say anything after that rootfs, boom | 22:46 |
| SpecR | yeah I can try most combinations | 22:47 |
| rpierce99 | this is a cdma raph though, i don't think with that rootfs the cdma raphs were in cdma mode | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | well what i'm asking is were you able to use 06 on a newer roots | 22:47 |
| SpecR | bbl | 22:47 |
| * SpecR & | 22:47 | |
| rpierce99 | it's possible they still aren't if the cdma detection doesn't work for cdma raph | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, explain | 22:47 |
| rpierce99 | well the ril uses radio commands to see if it should use cdma mode or not | 22:48 |
| rpierce99 | what if that doesn't work | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i have a raph800 | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | let me experiment more | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i can't get the blasted thing to boot at all, seems like a hardware issue. | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | it's not mine, i don't think this dude ever tried to boot Android on it... | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, did you see that guy's report of switching to GSM and getting reboots to winmo? | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | i can switch to GSM, and I have a SIM in there... but it won't connect to anything, so i'm not sure if that's a good test. | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i could try to get the SIM slot unlocked and borrow someone's SIM... | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | y'know for having the same proc & ram specs, this raph sure seems slower. | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | even with the lower res | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps there's some truth behind this turbo mode :P | 22:54 |
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| arrrghhh | well i went back to all the poop that was in FRX06 and this RAPH is booting again... | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you thar? | 23:06 |
| hyc | nope | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | did we even test with any of these RAPH/DIAM CDMA yokels? | 23:06 |
| hyc | hmmm, CDMA, don't think so | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | those lazy fuckers. | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | i've got one in my clutches. seems there might be an issue.. | 23:07 |
| hyc | like what? | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16057434&postcount=126 | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | new RIL makes these phones blow up into tiny pieces basically | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | i went to FRX07 first on this RAPH800, and the thing wouldn't even really start to boot | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | i would get the double vibe and then the screen would just kinda melt and then single vibe, rebootski... | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | woh | 23:18 |
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| hyc | if there's a ril issue then we need radiologs | 23:19 |
| hyc | but I don't think ril issues would account for failed boot | 23:19 |
| hyc | smd_tty kernel patch might, but I thought that was already reverted? | 23:20 |
| hyc | and did anyone ever try using jonpry's original patch, instead of my tweaked one? | 23:20 |
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| arrrghhh | to that that question, i doubt it. | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize smd_tty was reverted... | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | the RIL issues don't account for the failure to boot, i don't think. but there does seem to be an issue with the RIL. | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | let me try that first rootfs with your RIL in it | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | and see what happens... | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | first i'm going to task29 and put a titanium build on this POS | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think the smd_tty patch was reverted... | 23:25 |
| hyc | ok | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | now this thing isn't booting | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | that's not good | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | heh, stupid snoreton | 23:42 |
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