Wednesday, 2011-07-13

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smiley-I installed the new market..  seems to work00:27
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emwestinebd: you pinged me earlier, when i just switched off the laptop.01:32
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smiley-emwe: did take the gps for a walk outside and it works great now...02:02
smiley-from fresh reboot google maps finds my location in 10s02:03
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emwesmiley-: ah good to hear.02:20
emweit bet the fix might become worse at times if you haven't had it on for a longer time.02:20
emwewe'll see how that pays out or if one day we really need aGPS.02:21
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localmorning guys04:53
locali have a HTC touch HD (blackstone) and there is no sound, where can i start to figure it out?04:53
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Eodunhi all08:15
EodunI'm trying to repack FRX06 for CWM... my problem is with updater-script. Any idea where to get the syntax? and the base package to modify?08:16
EodunI've googled a lot and only get update-script... lots of them08:17
helicopter88this is not the proper channel to talk about cwm08:17
Eodunhm08:17
Eoduncouldn't decide as working on xdandroid XD08:17
helicopter88cwm = #neopeek,xdandroid = #xdandroid :)08:18
Eodunok sorry ;) see you there08:18
helicopter88ok08:18
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Tandyman100the HTC TP2 is a worldphone, right?11:42
Tandyman100I can buy *any* carrier's model, and use it on either CDMA networks or GSM?11:42
Tandyman100Because I might buy a sprint model soon, because that's almost all you can find on eBay, but i want to use it with prepaid SIM cards11:43
Detuleout of the factory the rhod 400 (sprint) and 500 (verizon) are locked out of using united states gsm carriers11:43
Detulethough they work fine abroad11:44
Detuleyou can however get it unlocked, the CDMA section on PPCG has the how-tos11:44
Tandyman100Ok. So it's just a matter of a little cellphone hackery and I can use the rhod400 on US GSM carriers?11:45
Detulenot sure how little the hackery is, i haven't done it myself, read up on it...not sure if there was a fee involved with the unlocking or not11:46
rpierce99and that's only the sprint and verizon TP2s, the tmo and att TP2s do not have cdma radios11:46
Tandyman100Ok.11:46
Tandyman100I would think it would be as simple as flashing a radio.11:46
Tandyman100I'll go check it out; auction ends in 34 minutes.11:47
Tandyman100Thanks. A quick lookaround on PPCGeeks confirmed that it's possible. THere's a couple stickies that show you how.11:48
Detulealso not sure if you'll be able to use 3G11:49
Detuleanother thing worth looking into11:49
Tandyman100Meh, I don't need 3G.11:51
Tandyman100I'm just going to use it for calls and texting via prepaid SIMs11:51
Tandyman100any internetting can be done via wifi11:51
Tandyman100looks like I just need to flash two radios to unlock and be able to use the SIM slot.11:52
Tandyman100sweet.11:52
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ryannathansI hope I did good buying this, http://www.peakhour.com.au/original-audio-adaptor-35mm25mm-yca300-p-915.html12:56
ryannathanshehe ;)12:56
rpierce99hope you didn't pay that, they go for like $3 on ebay12:58
ryannathansi love you too13:01
rpierce99lies13:01
ryannathanslast time i purchased something on ebay i got something totally different13:01
rpierce99well yeah, there's that13:02
ryannathansand because they took too long to ship it paypal didnt cover13:02
ryannathansi got mad bro.13:02
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fishhead2567.ph fluid crane13:07
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Tandyman100Damnit, why are TP2s so expensive13:38
Tandyman100Or diamond2s, for that matter13:39
Tandyman100How much thinner is a Diamond 2 vs a Touch Pro 2?13:39
Tandyman100Hell, I kinda want a Touch HD, even.13:41
Tandyman100Anything GSM and under $60 ._.13:41
localhost_i have a touch hd13:46
localhost_they awesome13:46
localhost_i got it yesterday, my friend gave it to me as an early birthday present13:47
arrrghhhTandyman100, christ13:47
arrrghhhjust get an android device13:47
arrrghhhyou'll be MUCH happier.13:47
Tandyman100I'm a winmo fanatic, you know that :P13:48
Tandyman100Android is honestly crap if you don't have a data plan ._.13:48
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arrrghhhwell13:49
arrrghhhany smartphone is crap without a data plan.13:49
Tandyman100heh13:49
Tandyman100Yeah, but there's more nifty offline stuff to do in winmo, afaik.13:49
arrrghhhname one thing.13:50
Tandyman100Then again, I used my sisters Hero with Cyanogenmod 7, and I quite liked it.13:50
Tandyman100Office.13:50
arrrghhhryannathans, did you really pay $12 for a dongle?  LOL13:50
arrrghhhTandyman100, how is that nifty.13:50
arrrghhhand why can't you use that in Android...?13:50
Tandyman100It's useful :P13:50
Tandyman100Is there office in Android?13:50
Tandyman100Other than Google Docs, you have to pay for all the suites that I've found13:50
arrrghhhthere's several apps13:50
arrrghhhgoog docs is good...13:51
Tandyman100ryannathans: those things are a dollar or so on Amazon. I kinda hope you didn't buy that :P13:51
arrrghhhi had some quickoffice poop13:51
Tandyman100but it requires a data connection.13:51
arrrghhhrequires?13:51
Tandyman100I thought.13:51
arrrghhheven after the app is installed?13:51
arrrghhhi don't know13:51
Tandyman100Google Docs was a cloud thing.13:51
arrrghhhi always have data, loser :P13:51
Tandyman100yeah, yeah. you people with your money and stuff.13:51
Tandyman100:P13:51
arrrghhhLOL13:51
arrrghhhi'm not rich dude wtf13:51
arrrghhhi'm a cheap bastard who knows someone inside of Sprint :P13:51
Tandyman100Ah, you fancy people and your connections :P13:52
arrrghhhhahaha13:52
emwedid that cheap bastard get that raph800, yet?13:52
Tandyman100I have $45 to my name.13:52
arrrghhhyea otherwise i wouldn't have a smartphone or a data plan...13:52
arrrghhhemwe, well no... i haven't really asked.13:52
arrrghhhi think he'll only let me borrow it.13:52
Tandyman100If you want a raph800 I'll trade you one.13:52
Tandyman100:P13:52
arrrghhhso i won't have it full time...13:52
arrrghhhtrade me?13:53
arrrghhhisn't it f-ed up?13:53
arrrghhhgimmie13:53
arrrghhh:D13:53
Tandyman100lol13:53
arrrghhhi take donations13:53
arrrghhhthat's how i got my tester RHOD400 :D13:53
arrrghhhemwe, something specific you want to test on raph800?  work has been frying my brain lately.13:53
emwearrrghhh: looks like diam400/500, raph500/800 seem to have issues with the smd+smd_tty fix according to autobuild comments.13:53
Tandyman100the screen is scratched, the hinge is wobbly as hell, and the hardware buttons refuse to work in xdandroid for some reason (though they've worked before)13:53
arrrghhhah13:53
arrrghhhthat's right13:53
Tandyman100but I paid $70 for it last year13:54
Tandyman100D:13:54
arrrghhhTandyman100, bleh13:54
Tandyman100yeah13:54
Tandyman100:P13:54
arrrghhhsounds like you take good care of your stuf... :/13:54
Tandyman100it's a shitphone13:54
Tandyman100The wobbly hinge was a preexisting condition13:54
Tandyman100the scratches were my sister13:54
Tandyman100No clue what happened with the buttons.13:54
arrrghhhhaven't you learned by now13:54
arrrghhhnever let women touch electronics13:54
arrrghhhespecially sisters, holy hell.13:54
emwearrrghhh: there's specific msm750xa code (nameliy smd_voque.c) which might not like what's up there. but i didn't look closer. but that is what came into my mind remembering there's some specifica for these chips.13:55
arrrghhhok13:55
arrrghhhlunchtime13:55
arrrghhhbbl13:55
Tandyman100My sister lost her $50 HTC Hero after 30 hours, and I'd spend 7 hours straight rooting and putting cyanogenmod 7 on it for her =.=13:55
arrrghhhwtf is wrong with you13:56
Tandyman100How the fuck she lost it in my moms 1100-foot house is beyond me.13:56
arrrghhhanyhoo, outtie13:56
Tandyman100laters13:56
Tandyman100And this laptop (which I initially tried the rooting and shit with) refuses to work correctly with android phones. I dunno why. I ended up giving up and moving to my desktop :P13:56
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localhost_anyone know why i have no sound on a touch hd?14:10
smiley-the new Market app works good on XD btw14:16
smiley-XD gb14:16
rpierce99the windows 7ish one?14:16
rpierce99err WP7ish14:16
smiley-no idea ;)  but the new one Google released14:17
smiley-have never touched WP714:18
Tandyman100there's a new market app?14:20
rpierce99yeah apparently it has all kinds of crazy scrolling and tile action14:20
Tandyman100yeah14:20
Tandyman100I see14:20
Tandyman100and movie and book rental14:20
Tandyman100it does look rather WP7-ish14:20
Tandyman100Why is everyone making their stuff look all "minimalist"14:20
Tandyman100s/minimalist/WINDOWS 1.014:21
Tandyman100seriously14:21
Tandyman100the Windows 8 betas have this "aero lite." It looks exactly like Windows 1.0 did. I kid you not. Just with less-gaudy colors, and higher resolution.14:21
Tandyman100From PC World: "The new Android Market app is also scoring big marks from critics for its interface, which appears to borrow from the Microsoft's tiles used in the Windows Phone 7 Metro UI. Google says the new user interface makes it "faster, easier, and more fun to discover great apps, movies, and books." The new market app also includes more top charts, and collections such as staff picks14:22
Tandyman100and Editors' Choice apps."14:22
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stinebdok what do we have here16:16
stinebdon the LIST16:16
arrrghhhDOOM16:16
stinebdend = home uncheck16:16
stinebdsu provider double uncheck16:16
stinebdalso what bugs are left?16:16
arrrghhhdid you get the MMS update?16:17
stinebdthe what?16:17
arrrghhhi think hyc pushed it last time we chatted about it16:17
arrrghhhslight change to Mms.apk16:17
stinebdlink to commit then16:18
stinebdor stop lying16:18
arrrghhhlol 1 sec16:18
arrrghhhstinebd, i found the commit on his hycdroid poop16:21
arrrghhhstill looking for it on XDAndroid's repo's...16:21
arrrghhhis there an mms repo?16:21
stinebdhttp://gitorious.org/xdandroid/packages_apps_mms16:21
arrrghhhder16:21
arrrghhhoh dude16:21
arrrghhhyou pulled it in16:21
arrrghhh7/316:21
stinebdyeah so stop lying16:22
arrrghhhsorry sir.16:22
arrrghhhi was just asking if you got the update :P16:22
arrrghhhi should've checked... oh well.16:22
arrrghhhanyhoo, what's left...16:22
stinebdcdma mms apn selection16:23
stinebdsu provider and package16:23
stinebdend = home16:23
arrrghhhare you doing the kexec or reboot changes?16:24
arrrghhhjust curious :P16:24
stinebdi don't see any merge requests for them, so no16:24
arrrghhhhum16:24
arrrghhhit required frameworks/base changes IIRC16:25
arrrghhhlooking in thar now...16:25
hyc1yes16:25
hyc1frameworks/policy16:25
arrrghhho hai there16:25
arrrghhhsir hyc116:25
hyc1didn't think they would be acceptable as-is16:25
hyc1I seem to recall in the past, some obje,ction to a reboot option16:26
stinebdin the menu?16:26
hyc1yeah16:26
arrrghhhi guess because there was no clean way to do it16:26
arrrghhhstinebd, yea power menu16:26
stinebdrejected16:26
arrrghhhheh16:26
arrrghhho well, no biggie.16:26
hyc1yeah, so I didn't bother requesting...16:26
arrrghhhi can't think of anything else off the top of my head...16:26
arrrghhhi see three merge requests tho16:27
arrrghhhi thought MMS was fixed, wth16:27
stinebdthe kexec is what?16:27
arrrghhhhttp://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/merge_requests/316:27
arrrghhhstinebd, same thing basically.16:27
arrrghhhkexec option from power menu16:27
hyc1yeah, but loads new kernel directly, doesn't run thru reset cycle.16:27
arrrghhhindeed16:27
arrrghhhi figured stine would know that part :P16:28
stinebdwell i didn't pick up on the power menu part16:28
hyc1ok. then yeah, added to power menu.16:28
stinebdbecause someone neglected to mention it16:28
arrrghhhlol16:28
hyc1it's rather difficult to use it otherwise16:28
arrrghhhyea not sure where else it would go TBH16:28
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stinebdwell all you said was kexec16:29
arrrghhhindeed16:29
hyc1if you have all the init.c patches then it's partially supported, anyway16:30
stinebdanyway we can do kexec reboots without power menu changes16:30
stinebdfor upgrades16:30
stinebdstill requires frameworks changes, but i dislike those less than i dislike UI changes16:30
hyc1mmmm. but not as cleanly. going thru the power menu gives an orderly shutdown of vold.16:31
stinebdyou think stock devices just reboot uncleanly during upgrades?16:31
hyc1going thru init just kills all remaining processes.16:31
stinebdall we're doing is using the normal provider and adding a kexec step where it would otherwise reboot into bootloader16:31
hyc1I dunno about upgrades or what code path they use to invoke a reboot.16:32
hyc1I just know that only the power menu does the full shutdown processing.16:33
stinebdthe menu itself doesn't do anything :P16:33
hyc1:_16:33
hyc1anyway you also need the /system/xbin/kexec.sh helper16:34
stinebdsee frameworks/base/core/java/com/android/internal/app/ShutdownThread.java16:35
stinebdthere's an if(mReboot) conditional in there that we could stick kexec into16:36
stinebdShutdownThread is what facilitates a clean (hopefully) shutdown16:36
stinebdi guess it would actually be done in the low-level Power.reboot() call16:39
stinebdwhich is f/b/core/java/android/os/Power.java16:40
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hyc1yes, which eventually calls a jni library for the actual syscall16:42
hyc1part of my patches are there, to make it ask init to do it instead.16:42
hyc1and init will try to make sure /data gets unmounted cleanly first16:43
stinebdso then just make the reboot service do kexec16:43
hyc1but only shutdownthread tried to stop vold cleanly16:43
hyc1i added a kexec service. you really need to have control over which gets used.16:44
hyc1our kernels still don't do a good enough job of hardware init. so sometimes you need a real reboot.16:44
stinebdin normal behavior on these systems, hypothetical upgrades (in the future) would be the only thing triggering a reboot16:45
stinebdunless there are some root apps on the market that do it (other than the cwm stuff which is obvious), who knows16:45
hyc1yeah there are root apps that do it too. haven't seen if they call Power.java or what.16:46
stinebdif they don't, then they don't belong on the market16:46
stinebdanyway based on reboot reason, you can call either the reboot service or kexec service in ShutdownThread, no?16:46
hyc1hmmmm16:47
hyc1I guess16:47
stinebdsay an update provider (which we haven't written yet) downloads a package to the sd card, invokes ShutdownThread.reboot with reason='recovery'16:48
stinebdwe look for recovery in the thread, kick kexec into gear and new kernel or whatever starts up16:48
stinebd(i assume we can kexec into the same kernel with new userland instead, too)16:48
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stinebdi've been waiting half an hour for du -sh /home/* to finish16:51
arrrghhhlol16:52
arrrghhhcouple of things?16:52
stinebdit's at 96% capacity16:52
arrrghhhheh16:52
stinebdout of 550GB16:52
arrrghhhzomg16:52
stinebdheh yeah16:52
stinebda few too many big git repositories i fear16:52
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stinebd495GB in /home/bryan/development17:07
stinebdhot dog17:08
prols -l /home/bryan/development17:12
prolrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root                    13 2010-05-22 09:48 development -> /home/bryan/porn17:12
rpierce99 /golfclap17:15
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hyc1lol17:51
hyc1ok yeah, kexec for reboot reason == 'recovery' sounds good17:51
hyc1of course an updater really only needs to restart the kernel if kernel or init got updated17:52
hyc1hm, mebbe anything besides /system17:53
hyc1for /system you only need to stop and restart a couple services and the whole android runtime would restart17:53
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k_linuxhey gys18:40
k_linuxguys :)18:40
k_linuxsomeone is working on GB builds ?18:40
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rpierce99there are xdandroid gb builds, well, one build, stinebd has been working on it, well, was working on it, emwe has been tackling gps lately19:08
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rpierce99k_linux: you probably missed my response19:10
k_linuxYES :)19:13
k_linuxI just read it19:14
k_linuxrpierce99: I think that I miss something else19:15
k_linuxrpierce99: on xdandroid site I didn't see a GB build19:16
rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95181719:18
arrrghhhwhat an awful thread19:23
stinebdthat's all on you boss19:23
arrrghhhyea, i suck at making threads19:24
arrrghhhreef's were all purdy19:24
arrrghhhhe did give his graces for me to kang his graphics, just feels wrong tho.19:24
arrrghhhhey, at least i give download links.19:25
arrrghhhETA 3 WEEKS BUT HERE'S A THREAD FOR YOU TO SPECULATE ON YEAAAAAAAAAA19:25
arrrghhhi think i need to use the caps lock moar19:26
Tandyman100lol19:29
Tandyman100Cruise control for cool.19:30
arrrghhhfor sure19:30
Tandyman100I know what you should do.19:30
Tandyman100All caps, use leet-speak, and use memes everywhere.19:30
arrrghhhthat would convince everyone i know what i'm doing for surely..19:34
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k_linuxguys, any clue for this error ?19:44
k_linuxhttp://pastebin.com/qyy1BAtM19:44
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Tandyman100damn trippy wifi...20:14
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* Fudge pokes arrrghhh 20:56
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arrrghhhFudge, i wouldn't recommend that21:00
arrrghhhi don't allow dudes to poke me21:00
arrrghhhnot really a fan when women do it either, but i usually let them slide.21:00
arrrghhhperhaps i've said too much...21:01
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FudgeloL21:05
Fudgenoted, /me kicks for future ref21:05
arrrghhhheh.  what's up?21:06
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Tandyman100arrrghhh, you let women poke you?21:10
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Tandyman100How the hell does that work? :P21:10
arrrghhhhence, perhaps i've said too much :P21:10
Tandyman100lol21:10
Tandyman100kinky21:10
stinebdholy crap i've found a use for chrome's about:blank page21:11
Tandyman100hah21:12
Tandyman100what's that?21:12
stinebdto backlight my studio ghibli museum film ticket (which has 3 cells of used theatre film in it)21:12
stinebdso i can take a picture21:12
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arrrghhhlol21:13
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Fudgewaiting for my mate to finish up with my phone so we can try droid again arrrghhh21:13
rpierce99who knew full fledged computers needed flashlight apps21:13
Fudgedo u still need to follow the calibrate instructions?21:14
Tandyman100stine, that's awesome21:15
arrrghhhFudge, you can either manually calibrate or use the attached file.  doesn't matter.21:15
stinebdthe attached file is best21:15
Tandyman100I'm still annoyed my sister took 30 hours to lose her Hero after I spend 5 to set it up.21:16
Tandyman100._.21:16
Tandyman100and I can't find her another one for $5021:16
stinebdit was generated using our proprietary, trade-secret highly optimized calibration algorithm21:16
Tandyman100Seriously, how do people think they're going to sell an HTC Hero for $50... with a broken screen.21:16
hyc1I use about:blank as my home page, never like to wait for the time it takes to load any other page up when I first start up.21:16
arrrghhh^^21:17
arrrghhhTandyman100, i don't see why that took you 5 hours to setup tho lol21:17
rpierce99i'm partial to the new tab page, but when they added apps i was /disappoint21:17
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arrrghhhi can't use chrome21:17
stinebdtechnically i don't use chrome21:18
arrrghhhat home i kinda can21:18
stinebdi use the bootlegged communist evil chrome clone21:18
stinebdchromium21:18
arrrghhhah21:18
arrrghhhfigured :P21:18
rpierce99i use chrome for basic browsing, firefox for dev, can't beat firebug21:19
arrrghhhyup21:19
stinebdi beg to differ21:19
stinebdthat thing in chrome is very useful21:19
stinebdwith the little window21:19
rpierce99chrome dev tools is good21:19
rpierce99firebug is better21:19
stinebdno no not that21:19
D3tul3chromium is pretty cool - the bookmark sharing is nice, is there something similar for firefox?21:19
stinebdctrl+shift+c21:19
stinebdoh that is what that is21:20
rpierce99yeah21:20
arrrghhhbookmark sharing?21:20
D3tul3chromium lets you sync your bookmarks across different computers via your gmail account21:20
stinebdthere are similar extensions for firefox21:20
D3tul3bookmarks and other settings i guess, bookmarks is all i used it for21:20
hyc1I never use my bookmarks21:20
arrrghhhfirefox sync21:20
arrrghhhin ff4+21:20
stinebdfirefox is a bloatatious monstrosity21:21
hyc1I think I've probably bookmarked a few things. never go back to them tho.21:21
hyc1yeah, just like all mozilla-originated code21:21
arrrghhhstinebd, it's really only slower than chrome when loading pages.21:21
arrrghhher21:21
arrrghhhwhen loading initially21:21
arrrghhhlol21:21
arrrghhhit's the same for me when loading pages.21:21
stinebdmmhmm21:21
stinebdhere's an exercise for you21:22
arrrghhhok, it's slower.21:22
rpierce99freudian slip21:22
arrrghhhbut it works on all my internal sites21:22
hyc1lol21:22
stinebdbrowse firefox for a day21:22
stinebddon't close it21:22
arrrghhhand chrome... doesn't.21:22
stinebdthen browse chromium for a day21:22
arrrghhhstinebd, check i do that all the time21:22
stinebddon't close it21:22
arrrghhhok21:22
arrrghhhi don't do that all the time21:22
stinebdthen check the memory usage21:22
arrrghhhheh21:22
stinebdthen wait two hours and check again21:22
hyc1ugh.... yeah, mozilla == memory pig21:22
arrrghhhindeed21:22
arrrghhhi have noticed that21:23
stinebdi guarantee firefox is using even more on the 2nd check21:23
arrrghhhit likes RAM21:23
stinebdfirefox might not be slower itself21:23
stinebdbut it certainly makes other stuff slower when you have to thrash swap constantly21:23
arrrghhhit never touches swap for me21:23
rpierce99how's that new fancy laptop workin arrrghhh, i mean it's not as good as my mac, but is it decent? :P21:24
arrrghhhi love it, minus the gfx switching21:25
arrrghhhi have a full 10-key numpad on 15.6" lappy21:25
arrrghhhand look my battery is removable, i don't even have to unscrew anything to get at the hdd, ram... wow.21:25
rpierce99so your alpha keys are too small and close together, got it21:25
arrrghhhhey look at that, i didn't pay an arm and a leg for it21:25
arrrghhhactually it's fine21:25
arrrghhhi don't have speakers on the sidc21:26
arrrghhhside*21:26
arrrghhhtwo speakers in the front near the screen, and two more at the front/nose of it21:26
rpierce99the thing i hated about that layout is the keyboard isn't centered on the screen21:26
arrrghhhhey look an HDMI port <321:26
arrrghhhtrue21:26
arrrghhhdoesn't bother me tho21:26
arrrghhh:D21:26
arrrghhhanyhoo, the gfx switching21:27
arrrghhhcomplete and utter fail.21:27
arrrghhhso they're upgrading me, and they're saying the issue is fixed.21:27
arrrghhhi doubt it21:27
arrrghhhso i'll probably sell the upgraded one since i'll make some money on it21:27
arrrghhhand then... shit i dunno.21:27
rpierce99switches on you automatically i assume21:27
arrrghhhso on paper it sounds great21:27
arrrghhhdynamic switching based on application21:27
rpierce99oh wow21:28
arrrghhhbut it doesn't work in practice.  no OpenGL apps will ever use the dGPU21:28
arrrghhhsupposedly it works fine for D3D21:28
arrrghhhbut i can't get that to work either21:28
Tandyman100[20:17] <arrrghhh> Tandyman100, i don't see why that took you 5 hours to setup tho lol21:28
rpierce99i can understand switching based on power state21:28
arrrghhhi love everything else about this rig21:28
Tandyman100mostly because this laptop refuses to work correctly with Android devices21:28
rpierce99but app to app seems, iffy21:28
arrrghhhbut the stupid app-based gfx switching21:28
arrrghhhrpierce99, yea, no joke21:28
Tandyman100so I spent 3 hours installing stuff and uninstalling, troubleshooting, then i gave up21:28
arrrghhhTandyman100, ... lol21:29
Tandyman100tried another computer, it took another hour to root and install cyanogenmod.21:29
arrrghhhrpierce99, the iGPU is the only GPU connected to the monitor21:29
arrrghhhso the dGPU has to flush thru its framebuffer evidently21:29
arrrghhhthere used to be a mux design21:29
arrrghhhwhere you could flip between cards21:29
arrrghhhmanual switching21:30
arrrghhhbut the screen would go black and you'd have to restart the app21:30
arrrghhhso customers whined and they "improved" it without "testing" it evidently.21:30
D3tul3which brand is this?21:30
arrrghhhit's an HP21:30
D3tul3oh21:31
arrrghhhbut the crux of the issue seems on ATi's side21:31
arrrghhhor at least ATi's implementation21:31
arrrghhhcuz other manufacturers evidently are having the same problems on the muxless ATi designs21:31
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arrrghhhworst part is, i didn't realize it had gfx switching21:33
arrrghhhi read some stuff, but on the sales page it didn't mention it _at all_21:33
arrrghhhso i assumed it was dGPU only... which i really would prefer.21:34
arrrghhhover this broken ass crap.21:34
rpierce99but then they couldn't claim 10 hrs of battery life or some such21:35
arrrghhhfuck it, i don't care.21:35
arrrghhhgimmie what i paid for please!21:35
arrrghhhthey did claim 6hrs i think21:35
arrrghhhon a core i7, right.21:35
D3tul3so if you're thinking about flipping the upgrade, are you already thinking about another manufacturer/model21:35
arrrghhhD3tul3, i'm lost now dude.  i'm not sure what to do.21:36
arrrghhhi might just buy some cheap POS21:36
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arrrghhhand wait for this crap to sort itself out...21:36
arrrghhhswitchable gfx doesn't seem very mature.  i've heard optimus have issues.21:36
arrrghhhhave/has21:36
rpierce99my mac has no problems with it :P21:36
arrrghhhuh huh21:37
arrrghhhi've seen bitchings about it on your crapintosh, it's an optimus thing21:37
arrrghhhnot a mac/dell/hp/whatever thing21:37
arrrghhhsame with this ATi poop21:37
arrrghhhit's not reserved to HP21:37
Tandyman100How old is this device you're talking about?21:37
arrrghhhi wonder how the new AMD processors would work with "ATi" cards21:38
arrrghhhlol21:38
arrrghhhTandyman100, whut, my new lappy?  brand new.21:38
Tandyman100because ATi hasn't existed for a year now :P21:38
arrrghhhi know21:38
Tandyman100lol21:38
arrrghhhthey still call it ati21:38
arrrghhhhence the quotes21:38
arrrghhhdick21:38
arrrghhh:P21:38
Tandyman100}:A21:38
arrrghhhwtf21:38
Tandyman100who's "they"?21:38
arrrghhhthey?21:38
arrrghhheveryone, even their symbols21:38
Tandyman100searth for "ATi" on google21:39
Tandyman100redirects to amd.com21:39
Tandyman100not a mention of ati on the whole site21:39
Tandyman100:P21:39
Tandyman100I need something to bitch about, sorry.21:39
arrrghhhwhen i bought the laptop21:39
Tandyman100wait21:39
Tandyman100shit21:39
arrrghhhi'm pretty sure it called the card an ati radeon 677021:39
Tandyman100"ati all-in-wonder"21:39
Tandyman100on their site21:39
Tandyman100wtf21:39
Tandyman100<-stupid asshole21:39
arrrghhhseriously man, wth :P21:40
D3tul3this seems like a good deal on a cheap pos http://www.staples.com/HP-Pavilion-dm4-2070us-14-Laptop/product_33297921:40
Tandyman100wait21:40
Tandyman100nvm21:40
Tandyman100I was looking at the Google cache on the search page21:40
D3tul3499 for i5 with 6gb ram21:40
Tandyman100there isn't a single mention of "ati" on amd.com21:40
Tandyman100wait. no. SHIT. I'm wrong AGAIN.21:40
Tandyman100fack21:40
Tandyman100they still call their older cards "ati"21:41
Tandyman100"AMD Radeon HD 6000 Series21:41
Tandyman100AMD Radeon HD 6000A21:41
Tandyman100ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series21:41
Tandyman100ATI Radeon HD 400021:41
Tandyman100ATI Radeon HD 3000"21:41
arrrghhhjust stop man!  wtf!21:41
arrrghhh:P21:41
Tandyman100lolz21:43
Tandyman100So yeah, in conclusion, none of AMD's newest graphics stuff is called ATi. Thank you.21:44
Tandyman100*bows*21:44
arrrghhhD3tul3, the whole thing makes me want to stab people21:44
rpierce99serioiusly D3tul3? Staples? Come on man21:44
Tandyman100*walks away to avoid looking like more of an asshat*21:44
arrrghhhlike Tandyman10021:44
Tandyman100arrrghhh, you never *stop* wanting to stab me.21:44
stinebdhttp://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=34924421&l=fdb47ecd99&id=4360220321:44
stinebdi love my camera21:45
rpierce99which one21:45
stinebdthe one i took that picture with21:45
stinebdnot the phone cameras21:45
arrrghhhlol21:45
stinebdthere's like no light in this room, they never would've done it21:45
arrrghhhyea which camera21:45
rpierce99no i know, which one do you have21:45
D3tul3rpierce99: i figure you get manufacturer warranty regardless of where you get it from21:45
stinebdoh sorry21:45
stinebdnikon coolpix l12021:45
rpierce99blech21:45
arrrghhhlol21:46
stinebdit's not a regular coolpix21:46
arrrghhhbwhahahaha21:46
stinebdit's a high zoom model21:46
stinebdyou can manually change aperture and shutter speed and all that crap21:46
rpierce99high zoom + P&S = distorted as all hell21:46
stinebdyou've obviously never used it21:46
rpierce99obviously21:47
rpierce99here's a cheapy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Lenovo+-+IdeaPad+Laptop+/+AMD+E-Series+Processor+/+15.6%22+Display+/+4GB+Memory+/+320GB+Hard+Drive+-+Black/2731052.p?id=1218347171491&skuId=2731052&st=2731052&cp=1&lp=121:47
Tandyman100manual aperture and shutter speed is a feature I wish my point-and-shit had.21:47
stinebdit's like an slr without the interchangeable lenses21:47
Tandyman100heh21:47
stinebdand ridiculous price tag21:47
Tandyman100And it's not an SLE21:48
Tandyman100SLR*21:48
Tandyman100:P21:48
rpierce99right and the big lens is what allows you to have decent zoom while maintaining low light performance and IQ21:48
stinebdthe point is, if you want that kind of control, you almost need to buy an slr in today's market21:48
Tandyman100and the penis-enhancing qualities.21:48
stinebdthis is one of like three cameras that can do that stuff without costing $600+lens21:48
Tandyman100Or you could use CHDK...21:49
Tandyman100:P21:49
stinebdand since i'm neither a pro nor a rich mac fanboi that has serious self esteem issues RPIERCE99, it's perfect for me21:49
rpierce99hah, rich, right21:49
stinebddon't worry i'm just trolling21:49
rpierce99i din't buy the mac, it's my work laptop21:49
rpierce99i did buy my wife a D3100 though so...21:50
stinebdthis camera rocked on everything i threw at it in japan so i'm happy with it21:50
arrrghhhthat means you are rich rpierce9921:50
arrrghhhand nobody who does real work has a mac21:51
* arrrghhh runs21:51
stinebdarrrghhh has a point21:51
stinebdrpierce99 has never submitted a single patch for xdandroid21:51
* stinebd runs faster21:51
rpierce99never claimed to do real work21:51
stinebdpoor rpierce9921:51
stinebdgetting it from all angles tonight21:51
stinebdyou say one thing about macs in a room full of rabid windows users and you're tagged for life21:52
rpierce99windows users? lol21:52
stinebdarrrghhh and Tandyman100 specifically21:52
stinebdbtw re that lenovo from best buy21:53
stinebdmy boss's wife just bought that for her daughter the other day21:54
stinebdand to the best of my knowledge they haven't returned it yet21:54
stinebdso that's a good sign21:54
rpierce99seems like a decent deal, i remember when <$300 didn't even buy you 512mb ram21:54
Tandyman100Me? Windows user?21:55
stinebdi remember when it didn't even buy you a computer in a suitcase21:55
rpierce99well, i'm talking laptop21:55
stinebdthose were called laptops!21:55
rpierce99and i'm not old like you21:55
stinebdbut you're older than me21:55
rpierce99i am?21:55
stinebdmaybe21:55
stinebd27?21:56
D3tul3that processor is pretty limitting but a nice deal21:56
rpierce99yes21:56
rpierce99D3tul3: depends on what you're doing with it I suppose21:56
rpierce99i have a feeling it's going to sell out quick once the midnight sale starts21:57
stinebdthat's not gonna sell out21:57
stinebdit's been on that same sale for days21:57
stinebdthey have at least 3 warehouses full of them21:57
rpierce99it's not even available for sale online21:57
rpierce99i'm confused21:57
stinebdit's in the store21:58
Tandyman100I dunno about you guys, but I'm the youngest. Always.21:58
rpierce99oh well then see, the stores have been allocated all of our supply, and the web site is going to get screwed as usual and get about 521:58
stinebdoh man21:58
stinebdyou should've seen the year 200021:58
stinebdthose were good times21:59
arrrghhhlol21:59
stinebddon't say "our"21:59
* rpierce99 works on bestbuy.com21:59
stinebdyou're geek squad, don't belittle yourself by lumping you in with the retail losers21:59
rpierce99nope22:00
stinebdnope?22:00
rpierce99see my /me aboce22:00
rpierce99s/aboce/above/22:00
stinebdohh technical specialist22:00
rpierce99stop G+ stalking!22:01
stinebdyou started it22:01
stinebdputting me in some kinda circle22:01
rpierce99i put you in a cirlce, that's way different than stalking22:01
Tandyman100[20:58] <stinebd> you should've seen the year 200022:01
Tandyman100I did22:01
stinebdtrue, that's overtly harassing22:01
Tandyman100my parents put in a deep well, and bought $800 worth of dehydrated food.22:02
rpierce99XDAndroid eh?22:02
rpierce99hmmm, professional computer person22:02
stinebdit's my title22:02
rpierce99Technical Specialist is mine22:02
Tandyman100I perfer "PC tech"22:02
stinebdalthough my business card says "I'm CEO, bitch"22:02
Tandyman100lol22:02
rpierce99your Gentoo business card?22:02
stinebdno i don't do that stuff anymore22:03
rpierce99-201122:03
stinebdalthough i think they still haven't retired me yet22:03
stinebdyup i can still get on the dev server22:03
stinebdstunned silence in the crowd22:08
rpierce99 /crickets22:08
Tandyman100lol22:09
arrrghhhFFFFFFUUUUUUU sony22:20
arrrghhhwell there goes 10 bucks22:20
rpierce99don't give sony money22:20
stinebdsony's business model right there22:20
stinebd"there goes 10 bucks"22:20
arrrghhhyup22:21
stinebdor for laptops and tvs, "there goes 1000 bucks"22:21
arrrghhhi used that free trial of qriocity or whatever22:21
arrrghhhwell it automatically renewed.22:21
stinebdor for playstations, "there goes the network"22:21
rpierce99shit, a relative just dropped $2800 on a sony tv22:21
arrrghhhplaystation plus didn't do that, wtf.22:21
arrrghhhstinebd, lol22:21
arrrghhhthat was pretty epic fail on their part22:21
arrrghhhcraigslist was saturated with used ps3's22:22
stinebdthe last place i go for anything other than cheap hookers with a bunch of STDs is craigslist22:22
arrrghhhi didn't buy any of 'em, why when i already have one...22:23
stinebdhooker or ps3?22:23
arrrghhhboth22:23
stinebdk22:23
stinebdyou could always use a backup just in case22:23
stinebdhooker, not ps322:23
arrrghhhi was gonna say22:23
arrrghhhthat is true22:24
* arrrghhh goes trolling for hookers22:24
Fudgearrrghhh  sorry i didnt see your answer22:28
arrrghhhnot a good time dude, hookers to be had.22:30
rpierce99the answer is hookers, who cares what the question is22:30
FudgeloL22:31
Fudgemay I ask then, since i use gen.y do i still need to run haret22:31
arrrghhhgen.y runs haret for you22:31
arrrghhhliterally22:31
Fudgeyay22:31
arrrghhhyou point it to haret, it runs it.22:31
Fudgethats easy22:31
arrrghhhindeed22:31
rpierce99with all the problems people have with it i'd have to disagree22:32
rpierce99once it's set up it's easy22:32
rpierce99setup is not22:32
arrrghhheh some stupid reg keys22:33
rpierce99i agree, it's a simple change, but difficult for people for some reason22:33
Tandyman100Hookers?22:33
Tandyman100What'd I miss?22:33
arrrghhhassuming you can understand a simple registry change, it's not bad.  problem is, most people don't understand the registry22:33
arrrghhhTandyman100, hookers, that's what22:33
arrrghhhbesides you're too young22:33
Tandyman100aw22:34
arrrghhhso you'll miss those anyways.  come back when you're 1822:34
* Tandyman100 sadface22:34
Tandyman100heh22:34
Tandyman100I just asked a girl out22:34
Tandyman100got rejected :(22:34
Tandyman100damnit22:34
stinebddon't worry you'll get used to it22:34
rpierce99lol22:34
arrrghhhyup22:34
arrrghhhbetter start now22:34
Tandyman100I hope I don't have to ;)22:34
Tandyman100if this next girl doesn't say yes I'm out of options D:22:34
rpierce99i'm married to the first girl that i actually went on a date with22:34
Fudgemrs palmer22:34
Tandyman100^22:34
arrrghhhplenty of emotionally unstable fish in the sea22:34
Tandyman100heh22:35
Fudgedo you have to rename the initrd and modules when you put them in the rootdir of memcard22:37
arrrghhhFudge, http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates22:38
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Fudgeim using your archive in f06 or what ever it is and moved everything to rootdir22:39
Fudgezimage already is named right as is modules22:39
Fudgeerror was couldnt find android22:39
Fudgebut this stuff isnt in andboot?22:40
arrrghhhthat's gen.y22:40
arrrghhhgotta change the reg key22:40
arrrghhhlike we were talking about, hehe22:40
Fudgeregkey?22:41
Fudgeit didnt boot though even22:41
Fudgeusing haret22:41
arrrghhherror was couldn't find android?22:42
arrrghhhthat sounds like gen.y22:42
arrrghhhwhere did you get that error22:42
Fudgeon the gen.y screen22:42
arrrghhh...22:42
arrrghhhthat's gen.y22:42
arrrghhhgotta change the reg key22:42
Fudgehow do u change that?22:42
arrrghhhlike we were talking about22:43
arrrghhhin a registry editor22:43
Fudgeoh22:43
arrrghhhthis is why we don't like supporting gen.y22:43
arrrghhhit's a stinky winmo app22:43
Fudgeyes agreed22:43
Fudgei cant launch haret myself though22:43
arrrghhhtotal commander is nice tho22:43
arrrghhhfor editing registry ^^22:43
Fudgelaunch a script file. default path is the same where the executable lives. dialog: default.txt run button. when click run can no t open script file /storage/default.txt22:44
Fudgewaiting for a connection on port 9999 when you connect you will get a remote hardware examiniation tool, listen for network connection button, clicked. found machine rhodium waitng for connection22:45
arrrghhhok22:45
arrrghhhyou ran haret without a startup.txt22:45
Fudgeoh sheesh22:45
arrrghhhsorry dude, just diagnosing the error messages :P22:47
Fudgethats kewl22:48
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arrrghhhmountain man!22:50
mmbzodunno if I can keep up the pretense much longer22:51
arrrghhhleavin soon?22:51
mmbzowent camping last weekend and remebered why I haven't in 10 years22:51
arrrghhhlol22:51
arrrghhhthat bad eh?22:51
mmbzoonly the first day really, especially with the massive lightning storm22:52
arrrghhhyea we've had some insane weather lately22:52
arrrghhhhad golfball sized hail at my house just a few hours ago22:52
mmbzogot a bunch of hail here too, luckily in a nice civilized house22:53
arrrghhhyea22:53
arrrghhhi just got a new roof from hail damage22:53
arrrghhhneed to order up another one lol22:53
mmbzohah, guess I well better appreciate the never changing california weather22:54
arrrghhhwe normally have fantastic weather22:54
arrrghhh300 days of sunshine on average annually22:54
arrrghhhit's rare to consistently have so much bad weather here22:55
arrrghhhbut there's crazy air masses from north and south clashing just off the front range22:55
arrrghhhkicking off these insane storms22:55
mmbzomy relatives live in a prarie like flat area, and the wind is crazy here22:56
arrrghhhah yea, that's normal for them :P22:56
mmbzoactually moves a large bbq from one side of the deck to another22:56
arrrghhhhahahaha22:56
arrrghhhmy rents have hurricane clips on their roof22:56
mmbzook, back to the regularly scheduled programming from #ColoradoWeather22:57
arrrghhhlol22:57
arrrghhhit does change rapidly22:58
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arrrghhheven worse in the mountains, never seen shite roll in faster than in the hills...22:58
mmbzowe drove rpierce away22:59
arrrghhheh22:59
Fudgestupid phone now says its eth1 instead of loading the memcard22:59
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arrrghhhwat23:00
Fudgeseeing it an internet  device23:03
arrrghhhwoah, haven't had an SR in forever23:05
Tandyman100 <arrrghhh> we normally have fantastic weather23:07
Tandyman100yeah well screw you23:07
Tandyman100110 degrees, 70% humidity23:07
Tandyman100lol kansas.23:08
arrrghhhkansas, bleh23:08
arrrghhhenjoy.23:08
Tandyman100really hits home after a week in ohio with constant 70-80 degree temperatures23:08
Fudgethe tp2s are 210s arent they?23:08
Tandyman100you have to be *tough* to live here :P23:08
Fudgei cant check the phone under the battery23:08
arrrghhhFudge, there's many.  RHOD100, 110, 210, 300, 400, 50023:09
arrrghhhall TP223:09
Fudgeoh dear23:09
arrrghhhis it branded?23:09
arrrghhhlike sprint branded23:09
arrrghhhtmo branded...23:09
Fudgedont think so23:09
Fudgeits an australian one23:09
arrrghhhhum23:09
arrrghhhaus?23:09
arrrghhh11023:09
arrrghhher 10023:09
arrrghhhshould work23:09
Fudgeyay23:09
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Fudgei think teh 110 rings a bell23:09
arrrghhhyea23:09
arrrghhhryannathans has one23:09
Fudgei dont think i have logs from when i was trying before23:09
arrrghhhit's a 11023:09
arrrghhhi don't think there's a startup for it23:10
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Tandyman100http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Oh+snap_08386c_2349645.gif23:10
Tandyman100OH GOD23:10
* Tandyman100 shudders23:10
arrrghhhwhat is this, i don't eve...23:11
Fudgenah only goes back to feb23:12
Fudge:)23:12
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Tandyman100arrrghhh, exctly23:17
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