Tuesday, 2011-07-12

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smiley-emwe: compiled new gps-lib earlier today12:05
smiley-emwe: and it doesn't reboot anymore ;)12:05
emwesmiley-: yap, but there's still a little issue on stopping. already working on a fix.12:06
smiley-but the phone behaves just like it did when I had WhatsApp installed12:06
smiley-ah yeah12:06
smiley-that was the comment I had ;)12:06
smiley-looks like it still is active even after disabling12:06
smiley-produces the same heat12:06
smiley-but still can't figure out why WhatsApp didn't get the phone to crash12:07
emweyap, it stays active as the stop command is not evaluated. got that fixed here locally.12:10
emwewhen did WhatsApp not get the phone to crash? before the fix?12:10
emwecan't follow.12:10
smiley-hehe12:15
smiley-sorry12:15
smiley-when I did install WhatsApp the phone got extremly hot and I started to see messages about the GPS in the logfile12:16
smiley-so it could activate the GPS in some way12:17
smiley-and it did stay active12:17
smiley-producing the same kind of heat like now  (same spot on the phone gets hot)12:17
emwemight be gps has quite some heat impact.12:19
emwefix pushed. give it a try.12:19
smiley-yeah.. but this was before your fix.. a few weeks ago..12:21
smiley-ok12:21
smiley-updating12:21
smiley-maybe it just activated the gps but never read the location12:22
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smiley-testing now12:41
emwei pushed another little thing to get the code calm.12:43
emwenothing functional.12:43
smiley-something else I have noticed is that when android have been booted and wireless is active everything gets DNS-errors12:47
smiley-even tho I can ping from cmd line12:47
smiley-bring down wireless and back again solves it12:47
smiley-getops shows the correct settings afaik12:48
emwewhat device device did you have again? which wireless connection? wifi or data?12:49
smiley-raph10012:49
smiley-wifi12:49
emwehm. think my raph100 is fine here. perhaps the frx07 will fix it.12:50
emwedidn't notice any issues with wifi here. but i rarely use the raph. just for testing...12:50
smiley-no.. after doing that it's stable :)12:50
smiley-I will investigate it a bit more12:51
smiley-but I'm on GB also ;12:51
smiley-)12:51
smiley-I think the Kovsky did the same12:51
smiley-I'm going outside to run GPS test no12:52
smiley-w12:52
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smiley-it finds 3 sats13:00
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smiley-but doesnt lock or shows the pos yet13:01
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Parad0xAnyone else have trouble changing wallpaper?13:41
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emwesmiley-: i got up to 12 yesterday while driving around (rhod). might vary a lot when inhouse.14:35
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GlemSomXDA tells me I have 93 messages stored, and I have 5 in my inbox... I can't figure out how to read my other "old" messages... ? :/15:09
smiley-emwe: yeah.. this was outside..    I have 8 now.. 4 in use but doesnt seem to be able to get my pos :(15:11
emwesmiley-: when have you had it enabled in wince the last time? might be without agps data it will take ages...15:12
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helicopter88hyc,i know you're idle,but i sent you a pm on xda,if you can,check it out16:21
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hychey... I'm traveling right now, should be home later tonight. will look then.16:28
helicopter88thank you16:28
smiley-emwe: now it locked16:34
emwesmiley-: *might* be it will fix faster on subsequent trials.16:35
smiley-and it found my position correctly16:36
smiley-shows the excat spot where I am  (currently in the basement)16:36
smiley-last time in winmo must have been 2 years ago ;)16:37
smiley-and yeah.. the next time I started the gps tester it found the position in 15s16:40
mmbzoemwe: saw you had some good fixes for gb gps. Working well now?16:41
smiley-mmbzo: works great :)16:41
smiley-thats what I'm testing16:41
mmbzodoes google nav work any better?16:41
emwewell, i could only test before my "wait slice" fix. there it was only every 2 seconds16:41
emweshould be working better now, but i don't like travel testing in our flat.16:42
mmbzohopefully, your multiple command change will fix the crashes16:42
emwecrashes?16:42
mmbzoyeah, google nav in froyo usually crashes after a while16:42
emwehm. i think that multi command thingy was introduced by me by having more then just start/stop/quit issued to the ctrl thread16:43
emwesending it "update" cmds too now made the others being hidden as there was only one byte read from the socket.16:43
emwebut well, i can try to backport some stuff to froyo. but first have to really go figure in what state froyo really is16:44
mmbzohmm, well in any case hopefully your changes improve stability16:44
emwei had gps on on 4 car rides of around 40 minutes each and all fine.16:44
emweapart they've been without that 2s reporting fix.16:44
mmbzodid you ever figure out why gps was preventing sleep?16:44
emwenope. i just sleeps in gb fine ;)16:44
emwebut yeah, will have to go figure for froyo then.16:45
emwealways have it enabled on rhod and topa now all day.16:45
mmbzocool16:45
mmbzoI did see some changes in the cm gpsshim to deal with some wakelock changes for gb gps16:45
emweok, topa is just the paperweight and the gps tester. don't wanna screw the rhod install :)16:46
emwe(or rather didn't during testing)16:46
mmbzoI think the gps lib is now responsible to acquiring wakelocks as needed16:46
emwecan look, but i first wanna get compcache going again.16:47
emwe.35+gb is sometimes getting a little sluggish with high cpu load.16:47
emwedunno what causes this.16:47
emweassume some GCs. not sure though.16:47
mmbzojonpry was talking about this earlier today on htc-linux16:48
mmbzoerr, never mind, he was talking about .3916:48
emwewell, it could be the same.16:48
mmbzobut whatever the problem was it seemed like he didn't think it was a memory shortage problem anymore16:48
smiley-http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-android-market-for-phones-with.html16:49
mmbzowould be useful to get compcache working again regardless16:49
emwethat .35 staging one doesn't like our userinit.sh that much and seems older then the latest 0.6.216:49
emweand zram is handled once again different.16:49
smiley-bedtime16:49
emweand now there's even zcache implemented by the same author...16:50
emwenight smiley-16:50
smiley-emwe: thanks for all the work with the GPS btw :)16:50
emwenp. have fun!16:50
rpierce99mmbzo: have you had the lock up recently, i used to get it every time but on my vacation a couple weeks ago i used it several times without issue16:50
mmbzorpierce99: meh, haven't used it in ages16:51
emwerpierce99: that lockup is accompanied by a device freeze and ~9 seconds later a reset?16:51
rpierce99can't remember exactly, sounds about right emwe, just not sure if there was a device freeze, definitely resulted in a reboot eventually though16:52
mmbzomaybe the crash was caused by that 0,0 pos bug16:52
emwethat might be arm9. i had it during ... well... not knowing what i was coding. nah. let's call it testing.16:53
emwehm, 0,0 fix is just not reporting that GpsLocation to userland16:53
emwethere's a ton of GpsLocation events which are useless before first fix.16:53
emwewell a ton... depends on how fast you fix. all location reports before are ommitted.16:53
mmbzoright, but maybe google nav responded to the 0,0 by trying to reset the gps or something16:53
emwedunno. i was mainly using GpsTest app.16:54
emwethe one occassion i used gnav in car the rhod was hopelessly overloaded...16:54
mmbzoso is gb working as fully now as froyo?16:55
rpierce99emwe: it acted like a memory leak or something, only after navigating for 20 minutes or so would it reboot16:56
emwei am using gb-only since ehm... must be months now with .35 .... dunno how it performs with .27. i only do phone and data and alarm though...16:56
emwerpierce99: i am going to test nav out again when i am going for a car ride. will report back.16:56
rpierce99you use google navigation app?16:57
rpierce99turn-by-turn, not maps16:57
emwei did last saturday, yes.16:57
rpierce99k16:57
emwethat with the blue arror i mean16:57
emwemmbzo: if i wouldn't have to reboot the rhod for kernel updates, it would be up days i think. the smd fixes by hyc where the last showstopper regarding data.16:58
mmbzogood to hear16:58
emwebut, ofc... nothing else works ;)16:59
rpierce99emwe: implement hycs kexec fixes and you can just kexec the new kernels in :)16:59
emwei didn't copy .27 stuff "just" over. if you like bleeding edge, go .39 ;)16:59
emwerpierce99: yah, waiting for stine to finish frx07. then he wanted to get this froyo stuff over to gb. i am not going back, that's a fact.17:00
emwebtw, that smd+smd_tty fix seems to cause trouble for diam400/500 + raph500/800 and their msm750x17:01
emweaccording to autobuild comments...17:01
emweneed to wait for arrgghhh and his raph800 and do some testing. there's that smd_voque.c hooking in for these devices...17:02
emwethey get smd tty buffer mismatches all the time it seems.17:02
emwebrb517:02
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prohow do i turn on my alarm clock to wake me up in the morning?17:33
pronm found it17:34
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prowhen ever i do anything with sound my phone hangs17:44
proi have a htc touch HD17:44
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CypherIcehey all18:05
stinebdmy good friend emwe18:05
CypherIcei have a question... does anyone here uses CWM?18:05
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stinebdwe don't support cwm18:05
rpierce99stinebd: you scurred him away18:05
stinebdCypherIce: you'll need to find the people who develop cwm for these phones on the forums, sorry18:06
CypherIcehmm okay... my bad...18:06
CypherIcehow is the latest version on xdandroid in terms of battery life in Blackstone?18:07
stinebdprobably not good18:08
CypherIce:/18:08
stinebdsorry, it's not like we do it on purpose18:08
stinebdif it were up to me it'd last a week18:08
stinebdrhod has the best battery life at the moment18:08
rpierce99and it isn't even very good18:09
stinebdyou might be able to squeeze a day out of rhod18:09
CypherIcei know that u don't do it on purpose lool18:09
CypherIcei love android SO but it drains battery too fast18:09
rpierce99he has to clarify because he really is terribly mean, so people would and do assume that he does18:10
stinebdi do it on purpose for diamond and topaz18:10
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CypherIceso i'm getting a Waiting for SD Card issue in a sdcard that i know that works with android...18:11
CypherIcethe last android i tested there was FRX02 i think lool18:12
CypherIcedid it changed that much that know i'm having that bug?18:12
stinebdmaybe18:13
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stinebdwhere's our arrrghhh?18:52
rpierce99noobs finally got to him?18:53
stinebdhyc:  you still alive?18:56
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stinebdthere's arrrghhh19:44
arrrghhhduuuuude19:44
arrrghhhwork's been killing me lately19:44
stinebdnow you know how i feel19:45
arrrghhhseriously19:45
stinebdexcept instead of lately it's always19:45
arrrghhhnext 2 weeks are going to be brutal.19:45
arrrghhhheh19:45
arrrghhhyea, work hasn't always been this nutso.  new call center tho, so lots of off hours work.19:45
stinebdyou're in india?19:46
arrrghhhlol19:46
arrrghhhbelieve it or not, our 24hr call center is locating in my building, on the first floor.19:46
arrrghhhlocated*19:46
arrrghhhsheeh19:46
arrrghhhsheesh!19:46
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arrrghhhwell that was fun, cya guys later.20:03
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hycstinebd: yeah, still here once in a while. at airport waiting for flt home20:22
stinebdhyc: cool, let me know when you're home, i wanna send you a wad of cash20:22
rpierce99are you still in WA hyc?20:22
hycoooo, nice. yep, now at seatac20:23
rpierce99just got back from there, what city were you in20:23
hycstinebd: paypal?20:23
stinebdya20:23
hyci was up in Port Townsend, ft worden20:23
rpierce99ah yeah way up on the peninsula20:24
hycyep20:24
hycwhere were you? vacation? or work?20:25
rpierce99vaca, i'm from there, we have family in auburn/federal way/covington/milton20:25
rpierce99and lake tapps, where i spent the 4th watching fireworks from a hot tub and playing croquet with drink in hand, living the life, basically20:28
hycawesome20:28
hycit was a lot colder than i was used to for 4th...20:29
rpierce99the peninsula can be chilly20:29
rpierce99it was about 80 inland20:29
rpierce99which is really warm for that area20:29
hycah, yeah down in the 50s, wind ...20:29
stinebdi dislike fireworks20:29
rpierce99that was the only really nice day we had while i was there, ok maybe there was 1 other, but out of 18 days most were cold and cloudy20:30
rpierce99wind + fireworks != good20:30
hycit only rained twice, pretty sunny the rest of the time20:30
rpierce99in that area sunny != warm20:31
stinebdi feel that it's a waste to use fireworks to simulate the weaponry used in the revolutionary war. since the ingredients are cheap and plentiful now, we should be using the actual weapons.20:31
hyclol20:31
stinebdit's not a celebration without authentic shrapnel20:32
rpierce99people just about kill each other with "safe" fireworks, using weaponry seems like a great idea for taking it just that extra step towards darwinism20:32
hycway back when, firearms were only as strong as our current fireworks...20:33
stinebdand they didn't have those stupid fruity colors20:33
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rpierce99back in my day people were actually allowed to use their own fireworks, none of this stupid "if it blows up or goes up it's illegal" crap20:34
stinebdstick some mentos in diet coke and stop whining20:35
hycsad how things have changed. nanny state crap.20:35
hycanti-darwinism20:35
stinebdi'm torn on such laws20:35
stinebdon one hand, i don't want some idiot blowing up my car in the alley (or worse, my house)20:35
stinebdon the other hand, perhaps some idiot will blow himself up20:36
hycthen they should have just outlawed using them outside of "safe" zones...20:37
stinebdlol i don't think anywhere near me could be a safe zone20:38
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Fudgeehlo guys22:35
Fudgeid like to give android another try on my tp2, i couldnt ge tit to be reliable for me when i last used it, i dont know the ver but i was using a kernel from december.  perhaps 2.2? device has wm 6.5 on now and im told that it might work better if i can actually flash android to the internal storage? is this correct or an option?22:36
Fudgeim also getting XDAndroid2.2Froyo.012211.rar, is that correct?22:38
rpierce99no22:41
Fudgeok rpierce99  ill look at the site22:41
rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196222:41
rpierce99do you have a TP222:42
Fudgefrx_0622:42
Fudgeyes mate I do22:42
rpierce99what phone22:42
rpierce99k, that's the thread for you22:42
Fudgetks :)22:42
Fudge25 march, is the first post, is that the latest or do I look toward the end?22:44
rpierce99read the entire first post, then read the FAQ linked at the top, then do the install, then if you have problems search the thread, then if you still have problems, ask here or in the thread22:45
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Fudgeokey22:46
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Fudgerpierce99  is it possible to wipe windows and have just android, or is that covered in the forum as well, so u dont have to answer for the 50th time :)22:47
rpierce99possible - yes, but it's in testing/development, not ready for general consumption, so not possible for someone just starting out22:49
Fudgei did use it for a while, but im blind so was using eyes free kick back talk back etc. it sorta stuffed me when it would stop speaking or a boot error ocurred22:50
Fudgeoccured22:50
rpierce99yeah you don't want to try that out then22:51
Fudgelast time i was using gen y or something, actually its still on the phone22:53
arrrghhhFudge, Oo.  no offense, installing Android like that is definitely not ready for you...22:53
Fudgei dont think u guys support it in here22:53
arrrghhhgen.y is a winmo app22:53
arrrghhhworks pretty well tho22:53
Fudgearrrghhh  apreciate advice22:53
Fudgei cant actually use the windows22:53
arrrghhhha22:53
Fudgethats y i thought if i could use native may be better22:53
arrrghhhnobody can :P22:54
Fudgesometimes the phone would just boot into windows, take four five times22:54
Fudgeto get into android and i was none the wiser why lol22:54
arrrghhhFudge, i honestly hope that natively Android will get better.  and it is, it's just slow progress... i have faith it will get there one day.22:54
arrrghhhnatively Android?  native Android... bleh.22:54
Fudgeso stay with gen.y? i enable fast boot, maybe that was cause of failed starts?22:55
arrrghhhshouldn't be a problem... but if you feel it is an issue it's certainly worth a try.22:55
Fudgemaybe it will be possible to insert beeps throughout boot process?22:58
Fudgelike my grub-pc, GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"22:59
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Fudgeor bash echo -en "\007"23:00
* Fudge shrugs23:00
arrrghhhbeeps?23:00
arrrghhhoh to signify progress23:00
arrrghhh?23:00
arrrghhhbtw, how does my nick sound?  :P23:01
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Fudgeyes23:03
Fudgenot how it its spelt23:03
Fudgecloser to Erik23:03
Fudgetry arhrhrhg lol23:03
arrrghhhdamn.  i'll keep that in mind... ;)23:04
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Fudgefor those who use a viavoice/elquence synth that is23:04
Fudgei have pico on  here too but its a bit muffled, not as clear as on droid23:04
arrrghhhheh23:10
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stinebdyou guys ever play haxball?23:12
arrrghhhnoes23:15
rpierce99just had to google it to figure out what it was23:15
rpierce99so no23:15
stinebdsomewhat addictive23:16
stinebdnow, if they could make it in the form of a suppository...23:16
arrrghhhgood news!23:16
arrrghhhwow this is a pretty bad storm23:20
arrrghhhgonna shut down the server methinks...23:20
arrrghhhcya guys23:20
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