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| tp2frx06 | hi every body | 01:27 |
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| tp2frx06 | i want to ask why i download app from market | 01:27 |
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| emwe | hyc: sorry for the noise regarding the ril commit. ;) | 01:42 |
| hyc | no prob | 01:43 |
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| tp2frx06 | i want to ask why i download app from market | 02:25 |
| tp2frx06 | i want to ask why i don't download app from market | 02:25 |
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| tp2frx06 | i want to ask why i don't download app from market | 03:51 |
| emwe | tp2frx06: do you have trouble downloading any app or just some? | 04:15 |
| emwe | hyc: heard you also tried a class10 microsdhc on your rhod. you had mmc write errors by chance? | 04:28 |
| hyc | yes, quite a lot | 04:28 |
| hyc | you too? | 04:28 |
| hyc | I heard someone mumble about bugs in the MMC driver that could be fixed to solve that, but nothing concrete | 04:29 |
| tp2frx06 | emwe i can't download any app | 04:30 |
| smiley | great | 04:30 |
| tp2frx06 | emwe: i can't download any app from market | 04:30 |
| smiley | I'm using the GBX XDAndroid build on the X1 now.. working creat | 04:30 |
| smiley | great | 04:30 |
| emwe | tp2frx06: i think i had problems at some time. but don't remember. downloads work fine for me. | 04:32 |
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| hyc | I guess GBX still isn't so stavle for smiley :P | 04:34 |
| hyc | stable | 04:34 |
| emwe | hyc: yeah, bought a 8gb class10 and it freaks out on .27 an .35 on heavier "load". i first had clocks to be the culprit as on .35 the controller is even driven up to 50mhz instead 32mhz (luckily .27 only defines the 32mhz clock as the next lower. on .35 alex invented a 40mhz clock which is then attracted. also troublesome.)). i checked codeaurora and they revamped the msm_sdcc driver a bit. will give it a try and see what happens. | 04:34 |
| tp2frx06 | but i can't ddl any thing from market | 04:34 |
| emwe | tp2frx06: try to look at the logcat and/or dmesg to see what errors it spits out. | 04:34 |
| hyc | emwe: would be nice to see that resolved. I switched from my 16GB C10 to a 32GB C4. works great, but I miss the C10 speed. | 04:35 |
| tp2frx06 | what line or mesage | 04:35 |
| hyc | have to admit tho, it even had trouble on my notebook from time to time. | 04:35 |
| emwe | hyc: regarding your smd_tty fix (not looked at it)... you posted it for review or for commit? | 04:35 |
| hyc | for review, I really am not sure it has had any effect whatsoever | 04:35 |
| emwe | hyc: i had the card being tested with a sd card testtool on windoze. all fine. | 04:35 |
| emwe | i don't see those hickups on .35 and topa. | 04:36 |
| hyc | interesting | 04:36 |
| emwe | but this night i could reproduce the rhodw+gsm radio+data failure... | 04:36 |
| hyc | yeah, if it choked up on my notebook I would pop it out and reinsert it and it'd be fine | 04:36 |
| emwe | this morning radio+data was dead. battery also got down to 40% in thos 6 hours. | 04:37 |
| hyc | I'm surprised it took so long for the GSM bug to surface. | 04:37 |
| hyc | we saw it immediately as I recall | 04:37 |
| hyc | battery drain is odd. I can get at least 48 hours on idle. | 04:37 |
| emwe | i think arrghhh said something it to be present for quite a while | 04:37 |
| hyc | 16 hours of normal use | 04:37 |
| hyc | yes, right after kernel 1253, the big Clocks commit | 04:38 |
| hyc | I think Wistilt2 said something about turning off a bunch of clocks in sleep mode | 04:38 |
| emwe | i tried your combo branch with a plain frx06 iirc and it lasted 16hours with no connectivity | 04:38 |
| emwe | that's one of the PM stuff | 04:38 |
| emwe | disabling all arm11 subsystem clocks (7 instead of 5) iirc. | 04:39 |
| hyc | and one of the clocks seems to be tied to both the SD slot and the SIM card so with the SIM shut off, radio has no choice ut to shut off | 04:39 |
| hyc | s/ut/but/ | 04:39 |
| emwe | i think that's one of the clock-wince clocks then. | 04:39 |
| emwe | the "pm clocks" are a different thing i think. | 04:40 |
| hyc | yeah, it didn't seem to be related to any of the PM patches | 04:40 |
| hyc | I think we already tested with those backed out | 04:40 |
| emwe | .27 doesn#t have these pm clock changes yet. | 04:41 |
| emwe | i added them to .35 a while ago though. | 04:41 |
| hyc | ok | 04:41 |
| hyc | so you have a good .35 for rhod? | 04:41 |
| emwe | no, i dont | 04:41 |
| hyc | I wonder if it's worth spending time on it now, or just go with .39 | 04:41 |
| emwe | topa is supported better ... well keyboard stuff and led missing | 04:41 |
| emwe | i whonder too | 04:41 |
| emwe | alex is trying hard modularizing some stuff | 04:42 |
| emwe | and i'd like to follow his path | 04:42 |
| hyc | like what? | 04:42 |
| emwe | board specific setups | 04:42 |
| hyc | ah | 04:42 |
| emwe | not all board specific data in the driver/module itself. | 04:42 |
| emwe | e.g. mmc.c | 04:42 |
| hyc | so keeping drivers generic | 04:43 |
| emwe | of course copying all the crappy old shit is faster. | 04:43 |
| hyc | and pulling in board-specific parameter tables | 04:43 |
| hyc | would be nicer, definitely. | 04:43 |
| emwe | and copying .27 code over .39 just to make the "generic" code compatible with the feels a bit strange. | 04:44 |
| hyc | yeah | 04:44 |
| emwe | but yeah, they got it going quite well according to the logs | 04:45 |
| emwe | still need to tell alex his new mmc code has a little logic flaw when enabling disabling sd slot power | 04:47 |
| emwe | vregs are refcounted in .35 and always enabling them when there is no vdd change increments their refcount and won#t disable them. | 04:47 |
| emwe | sometimes google code makes sense allthough it doesn't look like it ;) | 04:48 |
| hyc | lol | 04:48 |
| hyc | well that makes sense anyway | 04:48 |
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| emwe | yes, but also seen code for sapphire making sure a shared wifi vreg is not disabled when bt is active tracked by a global var. so looks like rfkill code doesn't enable/disable it by itself. otherwise i can't imagine why they would do such stuff. | 04:51 |
| hyc | not *everything* google codes is correct...... | 04:51 |
| emwe | little time, much to do...never catching up. :) | 04:52 |
| hyc | lol yeah... | 04:52 |
| emwe | where are you taking of all the time tinkering on this stuff here? | 04:54 |
| emwe | are you employed somewhere or your own boss? (if i may ask) | 04:55 |
| hyc | huh? taking time? I'm not tinkering right now, gotta get some paid work finished. | 04:55 |
| hyc | And yes, I own my own software company. www.symas.com | 04:55 |
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| hyc | If you like C programming and TCP/IP network stuff, I'm looking for a new programmer btw ;) | 04:56 |
| smiley_ | argh | 04:56 |
| hyc | he's not here | 04:57 |
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| smiley_ | hehe | 05:01 |
| smiley_ | it was more about me getting disconnected ;) | 05:01 |
| emwe | hyc: yeah, i meant the time before "now". :) ... i am pretty busy with my employment and the mobile hobby in my spare time. apart from being rather less low-level ;) | 05:15 |
| emwe | bbl | 05:15 |
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| hyc | emwe: i think you might as well merge that smd_tty patch. it's clearly doing no harm, and it seems to help thru GPRS/EDGE/3G transitions. I've been running with it anyway... | 06:02 |
| hyc | but in the meantime, the real bug still seems to be in tty_ldisc.c and .35 or .39 may be fixed already there. | 06:02 |
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| smiley_ | ok.. this is interesting | 11:22 |
| smiley_ | xdandroid on the x1 works great but doesn't connect to 3G | 11:23 |
| smiley_ | did execute the pppd command from shell and it connected without problems | 11:24 |
| rpierce99 | hyc's ril hasn't been tested on the x1 afaik | 11:24 |
| smiley_ | well it works.. just need to execute the command manually | 11:25 |
| smiley_ | but maybe thats associtate with ril.. reading the docs on kandroid now | 11:26 |
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| smiley_ | yay | 12:06 |
| smiley_ | did replace the ril-lib with hyc and boom 3G went up directly | 12:06 |
| smiley_ | well.. not with hyc but with hyc´s ril lib ;) | 12:08 |
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| rpierce99 | i think if you just replace the ril with hycs ril without all the rootfs and system changes you might have issues | 12:10 |
| rpierce99 | you might want to try running hyc's full system/rootfs combo | 12:10 |
| rpierce99 | it has the audio and bt libs though which are only tested on rhod afaik | 12:10 |
| smiley_ | so far no issues | 12:14 |
| rpierce99 | i think it comes with low/no service or turning on/off airplane mode, but i don't know all the details | 12:15 |
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| smiley_ | thats what I have here.. flipping between low 3G-E-Roaming all the time | 12:19 |
| smiley_ | gotta try a reboot too.. I did only start it manually | 12:19 |
| emwe | hyc: .27 tty_ldisc.c is missing 22 follow up commits to be on par with .35. dunno if these are applicable as is or some api has changed on the road to .35 | 12:19 |
| emwe | rpierce99: you where on which rhod variant? is it known that when plugging headset and playing music the speaker still produces some distorted - low volume - music output? (or is it the new acoustic libs not playing that well with stock .27?) | 12:21 |
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| rpierce99 | i'm on a rhod400, are you talking about the 3.5mm or the extusb | 12:22 |
| emwe | ah rhod400, fine ;) | 12:24 |
| emwe | extusb | 12:24 |
| rpierce99 | haven't used the extusb | 12:25 |
| emwe | might very well be the acoustic libs which i am tracking regularly from jb... | 12:25 |
| emwe | never attached earphones? | 12:25 |
| rpierce99 | nope | 12:25 |
| emwe | oh, i see ;) | 12:25 |
| rpierce99 | not a music guy | 12:25 |
| emwe | you on gsm? | 12:26 |
| rpierce99 | no | 12:26 |
| emwe | could reproduce the rhodw+gsm bug overnight regarding no radio/data after sleep | 12:26 |
| rpierce99 | overnight? shouldn't it take like 3 seconds? | 12:27 |
| emwe | let me test again. didn't watch it to closely when i wen't to bed last night. | 12:30 |
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| smiley_ | everything seems to work.. phone, sms, 3G, E | 12:34 |
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| smiley_ | ls -la | 12:37 |
| smiley_ | bah | 12:37 |
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| emwe | hyc: <3>[ 35.311798] init: sys_prop: permission denied uid:1001 name:ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric (pretty stock .27 + gbx0a+). needs modified "what"? | 12:56 |
| rpierce99 | i bet it's supposed to set ro.gsm instead of ro.cdma since the phone is running in gsm mode | 12:59 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, you shouldn't have to worry about any cdma settings. | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | and hi btw ;) | 13:10 |
| smiley_ | arrrghhh: to make you happy.. I'm running XDAndroid on the X1 now ;) everything working so smooth so far | 13:13 |
| smiley_ | no crashes, no lag.. nothing :) | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | to make me happy? | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | it should make you happy :P | 13:13 |
| smiley_ | yeah.. me too ;) | 13:13 |
| smiley_ | 3G/E didn't connect automatically.. only manual execution of pppd in the shell | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:14 |
| smiley_ | so I did take hyc ril and put it in there and restarted rild and boom.. 3G connected | 13:14 |
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| arrrghhh | oh | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | you didn't have it in there to begin with? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | i see rpierce99 mentioned the other changes too | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | with his newest RIL, you do need some changes to the rootfs. and to the system. | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, it seems dual-mic is now working with jb's newest? have you tried it? | 13:23 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm. seems jb isn't done. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | "Add a1010 driver based on a1026 driver + windows settings. Not yet enabled in board until correctly tested/tweaked but works" | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | makes me think he's not done with that newest commit :P | 13:25 |
| smiley_ | arrrghhh: no.. I don't know what RIL it was using from start | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | i do | 13:27 |
| smiley_ | but well.. lets see how it works.. not a single pppd kernel panic crash yet atleast ;) | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | 0.8 vogue community RIL, an old outdated version basically. | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | hyc made many, many improvements to the RIL. | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | a couple at least. | 13:28 |
| smiley_ | hmm | 13:28 |
| smiley_ | HTC Vogue Community RIL hyc 1877434 2011-04-14 14:31:04 -0700 | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | that's a little old | 13:28 |
| smiley_ | was in there | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | but not the most ancient | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | that's not stock GBX0A | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | stock would not be hyc's RIL at all. | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | well... shite let me step back once or twice | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | there is a rootfs on the autobuild service that does have a version of his RIL in it. | 13:29 |
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| arrrghhh | BUT if you just run stock GBX0A, what's in the bundle, hyc's RIL will not be included. | 13:29 |
| smiley_ | I guess someone has been modified it | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | well if you grabbed an updated rootfs | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | that would explain it... | 13:30 |
| smiley_ | I didnt | 13:30 |
| smiley_ | let me find the link | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 13:31 |
| smiley_ | http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6657 | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | christ | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's not ours | 13:32 |
| smiley_ | "Gingerbread rom based on XDAndroid GBX0A with ClockworkMod support. " | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | XDAndroid is us. | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | yea i can't take responsibility for something another group does. | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | they kang from us, whatever. | 13:32 |
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| arrrghhh | i'm not too worried about it but smiley_, i can't help you with that build. | 13:33 |
| smiley_ | no problem ;) | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i think the version of CWM has some old version of hyc's RIL, which makes sense why you're seeing what you are seeing. | 13:34 |
| smiley_ | ah yeah | 13:34 |
| smiley_ | oh well.. with the new and replaced one everything works smooth | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | good | 13:34 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: hi. good question for which i asked rpierce99 ealier about: is it known that when plugging headset and playing music the speaker still produces some distorted - low volume - music output? (or is it the new acoustic libs not playing that well with stock .27?) | 13:42 |
| emwe | s/good/got | 13:43 |
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| arrrghhh | uhm | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried extUSB | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | but NOT on the new acoustic libs... | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | but yes, last time I used extUSB the sound still partially came out the speaker and was distorted. | 13:48 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: thx, then i refrain switching back to an older version of the acoustic libs. (apart from the fact that jb's libs are backwards compatible with stock kernelland by his saying.) | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | i saw he has some new magic there too, have you pulled his latest? | 14:05 |
| emwe | on .35 yeah ;) | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | works? | 14:05 |
| emwe | topa yes ;) | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | speakerphone was the biggest issue | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | meh, who cares about topa :P | 14:05 |
| emwe | i am about to test out his .27 patches | 14:06 |
| emwe | i am so baffled about .27 rhod panel wake. that's sick | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | fix it! :P | 14:06 |
| emwe | let me first switch sdcards again. this class10 mmc write errors seem to have corrupted stuff again... | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:09 |
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| chuvask | hi | 15:23 |
| chuvask | what is the best version of FRX? | 15:24 |
| chuvask | 06? | 15:24 |
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| arrrghhh | yes | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | that's the newest | 15:25 |
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| chuvask | why do the main page say this 25 Mar 2011 Version FRX06 Released 1 Mar 2011 Version FRX05 Released 21 Jan 2011 Version FRX04 Released?, why 21 jan 2011 frx04 | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | we've had releases up to FRX06 | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's not like FRX06 just "came out" | 15:36 |
| chuvask | what do this means? | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | there were a few releases before it. | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | those are older releases | 15:36 |
| chuvask | but why say 21 jan 2011 in the frx06 | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what you're talking about. | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, files.xdandroid.com i giving me a 503... | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | F5 and it works again lol | 15:39 |
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| arrrghhh | i'll just blame my work cxn. | 15:39 |
| chuvask | sorry for my speech | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, i don't know what you're asking. | 15:39 |
| rpierce99 | chuvask: <release date> <version> Released | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | give me a link of what you're looking at, perhaps i'm missing something | 15:40 |
| rpierce99 | it's the latest news section | 15:40 |
| rpierce99 | on the main_page | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, that doesn't have all the old releases tho | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | only the newest | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't even notice that section. | 15:40 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: firefox 4.0.1? | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yea | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol i didn't even notice the Latest News section. i was just looking at the Latest Release section. d'oh. | 15:41 |
| chuvask | whi in the version frx04 say 21 jan 2011 this date has not yet been | 15:41 |
| stinebd | it's just the connection limiter | 15:41 |
| stinebd | i'll raise up the limit | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:42 |
| stinebd | you're hitting it because of the images | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, just get the newest bundle. FRX06 from March 25th. | 15:42 |
| stinebd | firefox isn't pipelining where it should be i guess | 15:42 |
| chuvask | ok | 15:42 |
| rpierce99 | 1/21/2011 has been | 15:42 |
| rpierce99 | or 21/1/2011 in some countries | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, lol. January 21st has occurred. | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | Jan not Jun | 15:43 |
| chuvask | What is the latest version of gingerbread? | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | GBX0a | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | not really publicized on the site | 15:43 |
| chuvask | arrrghhh, January 21st has not ocurred | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 15:45 |
| chuvask | January 21st 2011? | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | yes, pretty sure it has. | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 15:45 |
| rpierce99 | !g calendar | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol rpierce99 | 15:45 |
| chuvask | jajajaja lie | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, January is the first month of the year. | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | we're like halfway thru 2011, join us in the present. | 15:46 |
| chuvask | was for a moment encourage | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 15:46 |
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| chuvask | Will there be a new version of frx? | 15:48 |
| helicopter88 | No one knows when | 15:48 |
| helicopter88 | but hopefully yes | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, there will be | 15:49 |
| chuvask | when | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | fuck | 15:50 |
| helicopter88 | "<helicopter88> No one knows when" | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88 said no one knows | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:50 |
| stinebd | chuvask: tomorrow at 3pm | 15:51 |
| stinebd | please stay up all night waiting for it | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 15:51 |
| chuvask | jajaja boobies | 15:52 |
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| arrrghhh | wow. | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | boobies indeed. | 15:52 |
| rpierce99 | wtf seriously | 15:52 |
| stinebd | i gotta get rid of that stupid web chat page | 15:52 |
| stinebd | every moron we get in here is using that | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:53 |
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| arrrghhh | here comes another | 15:53 |
| D3tul3 | i think i just got dummer reading back a page or two.... | 15:53 |
| D3tul3 | s/dummer/dumber/ | 15:54 |
| stinebd | exactly | 15:54 |
| rpierce99 | i had a good one last night | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | D3tul3, indeed | 15:54 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: it's the same person btw | 15:54 |
| nfsda | hi | 15:54 |
| nfsda | this version is good? GBX0A_Full_Bundle_11.3.2011.zip | 15:54 |
| stinebd | welcome back | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | you're right. | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't even look | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | nfsda, sure. | 15:55 |
| nfsda | but What errors does it have? | 15:56 |
| stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951817 | 15:57 |
| stinebd | no more questions | 15:57 |
| stinebd | support is closed for the day | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:57 |
| helicopter88 | it will blow up your phone if you have a battery inside | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | gonna remove that web chat now? | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 15:57 |
| nfsda | malparidos q se creen los reyes de esto aprendan a respetar q si uno pregunta es para aprender | 15:59 |
| stinebd | si | 15:59 |
| stinebd | anybody know what he said? | 16:00 |
| nfsda | jajaja | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | something about bastards | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | and how we're kings | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | which, we are. | 16:00 |
| rpierce99 | q bastards believe themselves kings of this q if you learn to respect one question is to learn | 16:01 |
| stinebd | yeah | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol google translate | 16:01 |
| stinebd | gentlemen | 16:01 |
| stinebd | i wash myself of this madness | 16:01 |
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| arrrghhh | still scrubbing it off of me | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:01 |
| stinebd | have a nice day | 16:02 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna go play some video games | 16:02 |
| emwe | that japan trip was bad for frx07 :P | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | nintendo in general is bad for FRX07 | 16:04 |
| rpierce99 | people that need to chat from behind a proxy will be sad | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 16:06 |
| emwe | i will be too | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | my work proxy blocked that too | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | wait are you guys talking about the same thing? removing webchat from xdandroid.com? | 16:07 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, i thought you could still use those behind a proxy | 16:07 |
| emwe | bye bye webchat :/ | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | you can if the proxy doesn't filter it :P | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, my work would filter any of the webchat based sites. even on xdandroid.com, since it was a redirect. | 16:09 |
| rpierce99 | does the proxy filter it by the url of the site? | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | url requested | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | so you can go to a webpage like engadget | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | but none of the youtube videos will play for example. | 16:09 |
| rpierce99 | oh so the webchat is an iframe to another site | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:09 |
| D3tul3 | emwe: a noob question for you (or anyone versed in these things): i used a gnu configure script with the codesourcesry toolchain with a parameter "--host=arm-none-linux-gnueabi", do i need to pass an arch parameter to make afterwards, or force -march=armv6 to gcc somewhere? | 16:09 |
| emwe | configure? you don't need to ./configure anything | 16:11 |
| emwe | make -j2 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- for example | 16:11 |
| emwe | or are you trying to cross compile the toolchain? | 16:11 |
| D3tul3 | sure but I am trying to compile a package that uses gnu configure to produces a makefile | 16:11 |
| D3tul3 | nono, just tyring to produce an android binary | 16:12 |
| hyc | emwe: ro.cdma.... you need updated /init.android (or entire rootfs) | 16:12 |
| emwe | D3tul3: there's the man you are looking for ;) | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:13 |
| D3tul3 | :) he'll tell me to use his agcc wrapper | 16:13 |
| D3tul3 | :) | 16:13 |
| emwe | D3tul3: never did anything with the toolchain except use it to build the kernel | 16:13 |
| emwe | hyc: will that init.android play nicely with already released userlands? | 16:14 |
| emwe | ok, now why will topa with .35 and gb read all mp3 tags correctly and rhod with .27 + gb will not.... | 16:17 |
| emwe | same mp3s.... | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | i thought there was some issue with certain tags | 16:17 |
| emwe | it's the very same mp3 | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | v1.1 tags work but v2 don't? perhaps the other way around. | 16:17 |
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| emwe | topa had to reindex | 16:17 |
| emwe | but wait.. rhod had to as well | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | there's a thread on this topic, but it's a mess since ryannathans started it. | 16:18 |
| emwe | but that's totally sick... it's identical userlands and mp3 | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | *shrug* | 16:18 |
| emwe | was there some trick to make mediaserver completely reindex? | 16:18 |
| emwe | like dropping it's db file or something? | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096895 | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | that's the thread i'm talkin 'bout. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if that's the issue you're running into or not... | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | that problem seems different than what you describe... | 16:19 |
| emwe | yeah, think so. | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i thought that he was talking about tags, not tracks skipping. wth. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i read a ton of drivel in the logs about issues with mp3's that have certain tag types. | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i didn't read that thread closely enough at first. i thought it was related to that discussion. | 16:22 |
| emwe | yeah, but they are identical. just copied from on sd to the other. | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 16:22 |
| emwe | 06-16 22:25:02.450 I/pppd ( 2249): Terminating on signal 15 and reboot... | 16:25 |
| rpierce99 | emwe: were you able to verify the signal loss during sleep? | 16:28 |
| emwe | rpierce99: yes. smd7 closes immedeately on panel blank | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | excellent, that's the bug. | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | bug 120 | 16:29 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=120 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW , RHOD500 GSM Radio issues after panel collapse commit | 16:29 |
| D3tul3 | hyc: feel like handing out cross compiling lessons for free? | 16:31 |
| stinebd | emwe: it's from freenode.net so you can use theirs | 16:39 |
| emwe | stinebd: thx. | 16:39 |
| stinebd | http://webchat.freenode.net/ | 16:40 |
| stinebd | and the advantage there is that it takes up the whole window | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:40 |
| stinebd | so you don't have the tiny iframe constriction | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | i still prefer a standalone client, but to each their own. | 16:40 |
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| hyc | D3tul3: use agcc wrapper | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:41 |
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| D3tul3 | hyc: :) this code is not optimized for bionic, it requires functionality that is not in libc | 16:42 |
| rpierce99 | that client is pretty good | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, back to bug 120 - did you say that on .35 this behavior is not present? does that clocks commit in 1258 exist in .35? | 16:42 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=120 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW , RHOD500 GSM Radio issues after panel collapse commit | 16:42 |
| D3tul3 | so i was trying to create a static binary | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, not that it's awful, i just don't like having it in a web browser. | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | its* | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | er no it's. wtf. | 16:43 |
| rpierce99 | no i agree, but for some it's the only way to connect | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | i need beer. | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | the only way? | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | i guess if a proxy is blocking traffic to anything but port 80. | 16:44 |
| rpierce99 | many proxies will block the irc ports, but won't block freenode by url | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 16:44 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i had that data instantly disconnect (smd7 channel closed) on collapse before. now not. but it took some time until data was working again just now. so perhaps userland just didn't figure. i already forgot how the rhod did behave on .35. | 16:44 |
| hyc | why build a static binary? just add the missing functions to the program source and let it reference libc for the rest | 16:44 |
| D3tul3 | i tried going down that whole but it's function after function after function | 16:44 |
| hyc | D3tul3 what are you building? | 16:44 |
| D3tul3 | s/whole/hole/ | 16:44 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: so 1253 the last known one and the next kernel build (1258) got bad, right? | 16:44 |
| stinebd | nilfs progs? | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, heh. the panel collapse should immediately bring down the radio, and on wake you should 'catch' the radio trying to get service. yes, 1258 was the first that exhibited the issue. | 16:45 |
| D3tul3 | stinebd: yes, hyc: http://www.nilfs.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=nilfs2-utils.git;a=tree | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | damn that cleanerd | 16:45 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: and yes, alex revamped .35 clocks a bit. there might be subtle changes. due to all the fscking code formatting changes it's a PITA to spot anything | 16:45 |
| D3tul3 | the galaxy s people seem to have a working binary judging by the size of it it has everything it needs inside | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, ah. well .27 is dead. .3x needs to be where we're looking towards. | 16:46 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: oh really? ;) | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | :P yes really | 16:46 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there | 16:47 |
| stinebd | we need to be looking towards 3.0.0 | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | meh, what do you know about kernels. | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | i think jonpry is up to rc3 on 3.0 | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | yup. | 16:49 |
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| DJ_Synergy | hello everybody ^^ | 17:13 |
| DJ_Synergy | hey arrrghhh :) | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | hi | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | ...what's up? | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, what are you doing..? | 17:23 |
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| hyc | D3tul3: I got nilfs utils configure script to complete | 17:24 |
| hyc | but software/xdandroid/external/e2fsprogs/lib/uuid$ cd ../.. | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/external/e2fsprogs$ cd .. | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/external$ vi wpa_supplicant_6/wpa_supplicant/src/utils/uuid. | 17:24 |
| hyc | uuid.c uuid.h | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/external$ vi wpa_supplicant_6/wpa_supplicant/src/utils/uuid.h | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/external$ vi wpa_supplicant_6/wpa_supplicant/src/utils/uuid.c | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/external$ cd ../bionic/libc/include/ | 17:24 |
| hyc | hyc@violino:/home/software/xdandroid/bionic/libc/include$ ls | 17:24 |
| hyc | alloca.h endian.h grp.h mntent.h poll.h sgtty.h sys utmp.h | 17:24 |
| hyc | arpa err.h inttypes.h net pthread.h sha1.h syslog.h wchar.h | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | holy spam | 17:24 |
| hyc | you're right, a bunch of stuff is missing | 17:24 |
| hyc | wtf | 17:24 |
| hyc | I didn't even click anything... | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:24 |
| DJ_Synergy | lol | 17:25 |
| hyc | Here's my configure invocation ./configure CC=agcc --host=arm-eabi LIBS=-lext2_uuid ac_cv_lib_uuid_uuid_generate=yes ac_cv_lib_rt_sem_open=yes ac_cv_func_posix_memalign=yes | 17:25 |
| hyc | external/e2fsprogs has a libuuid implementation, so I used that | 17:25 |
| hyc | this configure script sucks. It requires uuid_generate to be in -luuid but here it's in -lext2_uuid | 17:26 |
| hyc | sem_open exists in libc, not in librt | 17:26 |
| hyc | posix_memalign doesn't exist, but it's simple to write a wrapper for it using memalign | 17:26 |
| hyc | the actual utils code sucks, it doesn't honor the configure tests at all | 17:27 |
| hyc | even though configure tests for and fails to find getmntent_r, the code uses it unconditionally | 17:27 |
| hyc | This is some really shoddy code. there's no way I would trust my data to a filesystem written by such sloppy authors. | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:28 |
| hyc | have fun porting this POS, I'm not touching it again. | 17:30 |
| DJ_Synergy | xD | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, make a MILFS and beat 'em to the punch. better name and better code. | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:32 |
| DJ_Synergy | hehe arrrghhh ... do you have any idea to log the first millisecs of linux ... or the last of LK ??? | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | well the first would be dmesg i assume | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | if you want kernel logs | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | but LK doesn't do any logs evidently... | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | anything it logs is on the screen AFAIK. | 17:37 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk ... so i need to screenshot the last lines of LK | 17:38 |
| DJ_Synergy | and look what is going on there | 17:38 |
| DJ_Synergy | if anything is fine i will dmesg the kernel part | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's where someone who knows what they're doing comes in :P | 17:38 |
| DJ_Synergy | exactly ^^ | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | but from what I've gleaned from ACL, LK doesn't log anything. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | at least not in a place that's easily accessible. | 17:39 |
| DJ_Synergy | thats really not good for dev ... exactly if it reboots exactly where it should boot the kernel ... cause you don't know, where the problem is | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 17:41 |
| DJ_Synergy | is it LK or the kernel ... i don't know ... but we will see ^^ | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | it's open source. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | all the code is available. | 17:41 |
| DJ_Synergy | lk is os ??? | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 17:41 |
| DJ_Synergy | cool ^^ | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | so was tinboot | 17:41 |
| DJ_Synergy | you don't want to build an LK with log-function, do you? ^^ :D | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | uh... | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 17:42 |
| rpierce99 | lk is bootloader | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | if ACL says it's not possible, then i won't be able to. | 17:42 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk ^^ | 17:43 |
| DJ_Synergy | is emwe available right know? ^^ | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | he'll chime in if he is. | 17:45 |
| emwe | lk? nand? never got near that. | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea i know. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | i told him that.. :P | 17:46 |
| emwe | unless lk sets up a ramconsole like the kernel itself (preferrably at the same address) then one could dump via haret from wince | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | i think he has different motives for talkin to you. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, no haret, no wince... | 17:46 |
| emwe | ah, right. haha ;) | 17:47 |
| DJ_Synergy | emwe ... geht nur darum, dass ich deutscher bin und doch ein paar verständnissprobleme mit dem technischen vokabular bekomme ^^ | 17:47 |
| DJ_Synergy | ab und zu zumindest ^^ | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, no offense, but please take ze german to PM | 17:47 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk ^^ | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 17:48 |
| * emwe hides | 17:48 | |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:48 |
| DJ_Synergy | lol | 17:48 |
| emwe | i need a faster box. this thinkpad t500 with c2d t9600 is getting a bit aged for userland builds... | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:49 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | i just bought a new rig :D can't WAIT for it to show. | 17:49 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh got a mac | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | hell no. | 17:49 |
| DJ_Synergy | holy shit ... apple -.- | 17:49 |
| emwe | get a thinkpad :P | 17:49 |
| DJ_Synergy | *grrrr* *wuff* ^^ :D | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i got a WAY better rig at a MUCH cheaper price. | 17:50 |
| rpierce99 | doubt it | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:50 |
| rpierce99 | one day you'll have a mac to play with and you'll be jealous | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i've used them. | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | they are awful. | 17:50 |
| rpierce99 | and you'll think back "that rpierce99 guy might have been on to something" | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | a bunch of our sales reps have 'em. | 17:50 |
| rpierce99 | that doesn't mean you know how to take advantage of it | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | vendor's y'know the type. | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | oh puh it's a computer dude. | 17:51 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | quit preaching like jobs. | 17:51 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ | 17:51 |
| DJ_Synergy | xD | 17:51 |
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| DJ_Synergy | i've heard that steve got some JOBS for microsoft-devs xD | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | zing? | 17:52 |
| DJ_Synergy | wordjoke ^^ | 17:53 |
| DJ_Synergy | or namejoke? ^^ | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 17:53 |
| DJ_Synergy | mew? ^^ :D | 17:53 |
| DJ_Synergy | *woof again* ^^ | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | at any rate, rpierce99 - i didn't want to pay $1,000 more for less. it was like customizing one of hp's elitebooks, outrageous premium for the privelege of customizing. but in this case it's the outrageous premium for that little apple symbol. | 17:55 |
| DJ_Synergy | arrrghhh ... have you just read my last post on xda-dev? | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | what, about the project name? | 17:56 |
| DJ_Synergy | jep | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea, not going to happen. | 17:56 |
| DJ_Synergy | :( | 17:56 |
| stinebd | ? | 17:57 |
| DJ_Synergy | so it will just be a nand working xdandroid? | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, he wants a separate name for the NAND version... | 17:57 |
| stinebd | what post? | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14790365&postcount=558 | 17:57 |
| stinebd | oh | 17:58 |
| stinebd | thought we were talking the list | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | noes | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, i don't see the point of renaming the project. | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | or even a piece of the project... there's enough confusion will all the different ways to say Android. | 17:59 |
| DJ_Synergy | not renaming ... but give this NAND part an extra name you know | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | s/will/with/ | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why. | 17:59 |
| DJ_Synergy | cause of the confusion of what is xdandroid and what is nand on the forum ... | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that'll just cause more confusion. | 18:00 |
| emwe | gnight everyone. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, g'nite | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, i think the focus should be on development. | 18:00 |
| DJ_Synergy | emwe ... see ya ... gn8 | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | and not what we're going to name it... perhaps once it's stable. | 18:00 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: fat chance now that the 3ds actually has games and i fixed my famicom | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:01 |
| DJ_Synergy | yeah but nand dev is not exactly xdandroid dev | 18:01 |
| DJ_Synergy | you know | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, like you've done anything on the NAND front. | 18:01 |
| stinebd | i did once | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | dev wise or testing wise. | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:01 |
| stinebd | until they fix gsm it's kind of impossible for me anyway | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea they need some GSM dev help. | 18:01 |
| DJ_Synergy | <<< is here to give this GSM-Part some feedback aso | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | all the people working on NAND are CDMA. | 18:02 |
| stinebd | userland dev btw | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, we've had plenty of feedback. | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | we need someone to fix it now :P | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a GSM device, and probably wouldn't be able to fix the issues even if i did. | 18:02 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk so what's the problem with gsm? kernel? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | mixing up the SIM for an SD card or some such thing. | 18:03 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk | 18:03 |
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| DJ_Synergy | i just wondered why it won't boot with SIM but works perfectly without SIM (if this ril thin is edited) | 18:04 |
| DJ_Synergy | so i think the only way is todmesg the boot and look what happens there ... first interesting thing will be, if the kernel is just loaded if it reboots ... | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | mixing up the SIM for an SD card or some such thing. | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's the reason. | 18:06 |
| DJ_Synergy | what exactly do you mean? | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | the system thinks the SIM is an SD card | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | instead of a SIM | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | so it treats it like an SD | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | instead of a SIM... | 18:07 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk .. but only on GSM devices? | 18:08 |
| DJ_Synergy | i mean | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:08 |
| DJ_Synergy | if you have no sim inserted | 18:08 |
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| DJ_Synergy | that sdcard works | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | SIM cards are unique to GSM | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA knows nothing of a SIM | 18:09 |
| stinebd | UIM! | 18:09 |
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| DJ_Synergy | so you mean the system thinks there are to sd cards? | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 18:09 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really know the details | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | if i did, i'd probably know how to fix it. | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | and if that was the case, i would've fixed it. | 18:09 |
| Detule | hyc: reading the log | 18:09 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ | 18:09 |
| Detule | hyc i have e2fsprogs cross compiled with our toolchain for the uuid library | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, what network actually uses UIM other than China? | 18:10 |
| stinebd | china is a country | 18:10 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk ... how is there for the kernel dev? and ... this person knows that there is some thing wrong wits gsm ... | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean. | 18:10 |
| DJ_Synergy | who * | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | China Unicom, better? | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, don't worry about it. | 18:11 |
| stinebd | japan | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, what USA carrier | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | japan uses CDMA? | 18:11 |
| stinebd | usa carriers are monopolistic bastards | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:11 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ | 18:11 |
| DJ_Synergy | xD | 18:11 |
| stinebd | for instance, at&t doesn't like people taking phones to t-mobile's edge network | 18:11 |
| stinebd | so they bought them | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | ture | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | true* | 18:12 |
| DJ_Synergy | btw ... i think we need to get android running on this hardware cause of microsofts motherf**** phone7 and the future of winmo | 18:13 |
| DJ_Synergy | winmo will die | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | it is dead. | 18:13 |
| Detule | hyc: thanks for looking at it, i got to the posix_memalign part, and then decided to see if i can compile it statically before i invested any more time in this | 18:13 |
| DJ_Synergy | not really ... there are quiet a few devs that trie to keep it alive | 18:13 |
| hyc | compiling statically is not a solution | 18:13 |
| DJ_Synergy | try * | 18:13 |
| DJ_Synergy | it's late in germany ^^ | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, don't care. winmo's dead. | 18:14 |
| stinebd | i feel bad for germans | 18:14 |
| DJ_Synergy | RIP winmo ^^ we'll never forget ya ^^ | 18:14 |
| DJ_Synergy | st6inebd ... why? | 18:14 |
| Detule | other than the bloated binary, any other drawbacks? | 18:14 |
| stinebd | your electricity is about to become very expensive | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | just fuckin rest winmo. i won't mis it. | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | "Unlike GSM phones, Japanese phones are tightly bundled with subscription and usually not sold alone." <--- who's monopolistic? | 18:15 |
| DJ_Synergy | yeah ^^ thats a problem of our green bastards ^^ | 18:15 |
| stinebd | based on the political leadership's concern of their nuclear nuclear reactors being hit by earthquakes and tsunami | 18:15 |
| stinebd | double nuclear! | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:15 |
| DJ_Synergy | yeah ... funny thing is ... we don't have any earthquakes or something ... | 18:16 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: that's not quite correct | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | but i found it on the internet | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | it must be | 18:16 |
| DJ_Synergy | and a few years ago the poltitic said nuclear would be so great cause of the ozon and the smog and so on | 18:16 |
| stinebd | they're locked into long contracts like us | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:17 |
| DJ_Synergy | and now they changed | 18:17 |
| stinebd | but the difference is that japan's major networks are all compatible technologies and frequencies | 18:17 |
| stinebd | so after the contract expires, you're free to go to the other provider | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, that would be nice. | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | it seems like they don't have GSM tho? | 18:17 |
| stinebd | they have wcdma umts | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | dunno, that page i found was confusing. | 18:18 |
| stinebd | equivalent to att's 3g | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:18 |
| stinebd | on the 2100 frequency | 18:18 |
| stinebd | and based on my time there, i'd say about 6 distinct tower providers in the tokyo area | 18:18 |
| stinebd | att partners with two of them for roaming | 18:18 |
| stinebd | softbank and docomo | 18:19 |
| DJ_Synergy | a question btw ... what exactly does ril do ??? i don't understand it atm ... | 18:20 |
| hyc | it whispers weet nothings in the radio's ear | 18:20 |
| hyc | *sweet | 18:20 |
| DJ_Synergy | :D hehe kk ^^ | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, uhhhhhh it is pretty well discussed on the forums. | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | even ryannathans knows what it is. | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | damn that dude's timezone. i never get to make fun of him when he's actually here. | 18:21 |
| DJ_Synergy | :D don't blame someone ^^ | 18:21 |
| DJ_Synergy | :) | 18:21 |
| DJ_Synergy | you allready blamed the kernel ^^ | 18:22 |
| DJ_Synergy | that's enough i think ^^ | 18:23 |
| DJ_Synergy | ... for now ... ^^ | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 18:24 |
| DJ_Synergy | so ok ... if i can give you some logs of the kernel while it tries to boot up (if it's loaded) ... you guys coul propably fix the GSM crashes? | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | no | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you were a dev and could help, if not then just wait. | 18:25 |
| DJ_Synergy | i meant the hole team with 'you guys' | 18:25 |
| DJ_Synergy | :D | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | honestly NAND development is sitting at the back of the bus currently. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | to say a handful of people are working on it would be an overestimation. | 18:25 |
| DJ_Synergy | as i said, i'm not a dev ... i have some experience, but not as much | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | there's 1 dev and a couple of savvy users working on it actively. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | eh i thought you said you were a dev. don't sweat it then, just wait. | 18:26 |
| DJ_Synergy | kk ... but i thought the nand dev has the problem of missing gsm-device? | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how to answer that question | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | the one dev that's working on it has a CDMA device. | 18:27 |
| DJ_Synergy | do they have gsm devices to try to fix it? | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | no | 18:27 |
| DJ_Synergy | so someone is needed, that give some logs aso, that the dev-team can see what happens there? right? | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | no | 18:28 |
| DJ_Synergy | ??? | 18:28 |
| DJ_Synergy | confused?! | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | just wait until it's fixed if you can't pitch in. | 18:28 |
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| DJ_Synergy | but if they don't have gsm-devices ... and don't know whats the problem ... than they will never fix gsm?! | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like a GSM problem. | 18:29 |
| DJ_Synergy | yes, it is | 18:30 |
| DJ_Synergy | cdma is working, right? | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:31 |
| DJ_Synergy | so it's a gsm problem and the dev team has no gsm devices where they should look where the problem is | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | you going to donate a GSM device to the dev team? | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | that would help. | 18:32 |
| DJ_Synergy | so gsm-devices are out of the race of nand booting? | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | you do realize NAND is not exactly stable or even what i would consider 'usuable' right? | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA boots, but it's not nearly where haret is at. | 18:32 |
| DJ_Synergy | i just thought some logs could help, that shows the dev team where the problem is ... i mean .. the wouldn't do something else, right?! | 18:33 |
| DJ_Synergy | yeah it isn't stable or usable ... | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't think there are logs to grab | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | and if there are, they've already been grabbed | 18:34 |
| DJ_Synergy | just booting for cdma and able to use the basic functions atm | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | i think the assistance is needed on the dev side. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | we don't need users throwing logs out there. | 18:35 |
| DJ_Synergy | already been grabbed by which device, if there isn't one?! | 18:35 |
| DJ_Synergy | that's what is confusing me atm ... | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | wtf man | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | just use haret until NAND is ready | 18:35 |
| DJ_Synergy | you say that they haven't any device ... but they would grab logs out of it?! | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | holyfuck | 18:36 |
| stinebd | what should we use until haret is ready? | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | winmo | 18:36 |
| hyc | where's the "no morons" switch for this channel? | 18:37 |
| stinebd | hyc: fine i'll leave | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:37 |
| DJ_Synergy | ^^ sry for fuckin' you up ... but i don't understand how they will do it then ... | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | me too | 18:37 |
| DJ_Synergy | so kk ... i will trust the devs and hope they will fix it in the future ... if some help is needed, i'll be there | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | DJ_Synergy, just leave it be. don't worry about NAND. | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:38 |
| DJ_Synergy | so i will go to bed ... it's 00:39 here ... i have to go up early this morning ... so gn8 at all | 18:39 |
| DJ_Synergy | and sry again arrrghhh ^^ hope you're not really angry :) | 18:40 |
| Detule | kiss and make up tomorrow | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | not angry, just a little frustrated. | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you knew a lot more than you do, my fault :P | 18:41 |
| DJ_Synergy | :P not exactly ... just didn't read exactly ... this happens ^^ | 18:42 |
| DJ_Synergy | so bye bye ... see ya | 18:43 |
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| arrrghhh | oy | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i gotta quit overestimating people on the forums. they say they know C and some other languages... yet seem to show no sign of intelligent life. | 18:45 |
| hyc | C? yeah, it's right next to X and V. | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | i just keep hoping someone will come out of the woodwork that wants to take a crack at GSM NAND. | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | well wants to and is capable of :P | 18:51 |
| hyc | there are other way more annoying issues to solve first. as it is I haven't had to power-off/reset my phone in about a month. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | well that's good | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | prox sensor would be nice | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | what else is buggin ya hyc ? :P | 18:54 |
| hyc | lack of time at the moment :P prox sensor, light sensor | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 18:55 |
| hyc | not sure that anything else has really caught my attention | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:55 |
| hyc | mebbe that stupid tty_ldisc bug but it may already be fixed in .35 or .39 | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. no point in chasing stuff that's been fixed in newer trees | 18:55 |
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| arrrghhh | zomg hyc did you see that dude's comment in your audio routing thread? | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | that is freakin HILARIOUS | 19:07 |
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| hyc | latinohot? crazy | 19:08 |
| hyc | yeah, the whole mixing modules thing, BS | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | makes me laugh. | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | he responded to my post, said his wifi works better. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps he's really tiad8 | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:09 |
| hyc | uh huh... | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | classsic. | 19:19 |
| stinebd | ok folks | 19:47 |
| stinebd | if someone asks why we sign releases with our own keys | 19:47 |
| stinebd | http://blog.mylookout.com/2011/06/security-alert-malware-found-targeting-custom-roms-jsmshider/ | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | HEH | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | oops. | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:49 |
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| Zerst | hello every one | 23:17 |
| Zerst | why i can't download app from amrket using FRX06 on TP2 | 23:18 |
| rpierce99 | lots of people seeing issues with market downloads, here's one guys attempt to fix it, i can't vouch for it though http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124847 | 23:20 |
| rpierce99 | some have said you can just clear your market data and it will be back to normal | 23:20 |
| Zerst | thank, i will try . | 23:22 |
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| Zerst | may i ask about frx06 language | 23:53 |
| Zerst | i also try this but | 23:56 |
| Zerst | the phone show | 23:56 |
| Zerst | sorry the app...com.android.vending has stopped... | 23:56 |
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