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| ryannathans | hey all | 07:05 |
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| smiley_ | mornin | 07:06 |
| ryannathans | I come home and apparently my internet is a whole .5 megabit faster. | 07:06 |
| ryannathans | w00t | 07:06 |
| ryannathans | looks like hyc was fixin that scbs bug where it wasn't disabled | 07:07 |
| ryannathans | hyc: have ya done an update file this time? | 07:08 |
| ryannathans | ahh, no new system | 07:19 |
| smiley_ | scbs is the battery time thing on RHOD? | 07:34 |
| mightybox | hey | 07:34 |
| mightybox | i was wondering if there are people that haves randomly reboots like me | 07:35 |
| smiley_ | not after I stopped overclock + using latest gingerbread build | 07:36 |
| smiley_ | but overclock seems to work but it never gets back after sleeping | 07:36 |
| smiley_ | I saw some kernel patch around christmas fixing that but doesn't seem to be working RAPH | 07:37 |
| mightybox | well i dont get any sod's anymore but my rhod100 is rebooting 3 times on a day | 07:37 |
| mightybox | i use wistilt's 04/15 build with newest root | 07:38 |
| ryannathans | it's the kernel | 07:38 |
| ryannathans | build is fine, rootfs shouldn't have any problems | 07:38 |
| ryannathans | try with different kernels | 07:38 |
| mightybox | mostly happens after a call | 07:38 |
| mightybox | or when i get called | 07:39 |
| mightybox | ok | 07:39 |
| smiley_ | yeah the kernel mostly.. I have been switching between latest and on from april | 07:39 |
| smiley_ | latest root (but with init.rd modified to get dhcpcd to work with latest gingerbread) | 07:40 |
| smiley_ | one* | 07:41 |
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| D3tul3 | I toyed with the idea of reading 2 weeks worth of logs.... | 12:00 |
| D3tul3 | for about 2sec... | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, lol. 'GET OFF MAH LAWN' | 12:04 |
| hyc | :p | 12:05 |
| hyc | ryannathans: the scbs thing was a patch to init.rc, which is in rootfs. so no, no new system. | 12:08 |
| hyc | the only thing that would be new for the system is the ril. but I don't see any reason to repackage for that. | 12:09 |
| hyc | you can install it yourself already | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | so sprint gave me an interesting email today... | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | Thanks, the link works for me now as well. Before we schedule a call with Howard I would like to speak with you first about the issue. I'd like to discuss when you are seeing the problem personally and how it is affecting your company/business. | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | does this guy think we're selling Android for WinMo phones or something!?! lol | 12:12 |
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| hyc | heh | 12:16 |
| rpierce99 | well the information was forwarded from a business account rep right? your friend | 12:16 |
| toadlife | arrrghhh, don't think you'll be getting anywhere with Sprint | 12:17 |
| hyc | I guess if all of sprint's native android phones are running Sense they're not hitting this at all. | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, LG Optimus S doesn't have Sense... | 12:17 |
| hyc | so it only shows up if you take an android phone bought from someone else. | 12:17 |
| hyc | hmmm. | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, perhaps. i haven't given up yet. | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | i think if i can prove that it's busted in WinMo | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | and your hack 'fixes' it for our Android port | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | they might be convinced... might. | 12:18 |
| hyc | doesn't sound like a conf call with me will be very useful | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not really sure what 'work' this would require on their end to fix. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, not at this time. i'm not going to waste your time dude... if i think someone who knows their shit really wants more info, i'll set one up. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i just wanted to make sure you were open to this idea. | 12:19 |
| hyc | ok | 12:19 |
| D3tul3 | excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is busted on the optimus? | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | nothing that i know of | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | maybe MMS, not sure tho. hrm | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | my sister has one | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | definitely not rooted, if you even can root it... | 12:21 |
| D3tul3 | so does my girl, i could give it whirl tonight | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | it'd be up to hyc, i don't really grasp the issue other than what i perceive as an issue when receiving MMS. | 12:21 |
| hyc | well, that's all there is to perceive. can't imagine they'd release phones without these things already fixed. | 12:25 |
| toadlife | I have a native sprint android phone that doesn't run sense | 12:25 |
| hyc | ok, does it receive MMSs? | 12:25 |
| toadlife | I'll test in a sec | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | send a pic WITH some text. | 12:26 |
| hyc | and if you send an mms with img and text, how does the mms get displayed? | 12:26 |
| rpierce99 | might be helpful to get the pdu out of the table if it's rooted and see if it's malformed | 12:26 |
| rpierce99 | if it's not malformed we can sniff and see why, if it is then they obviously fixed it in userland | 12:27 |
| hyc | right | 12:27 |
| hyc | but need root to really know | 12:27 |
| toadlife | Ok I sent a message with a pic. The picture showed up. It played the picture as a slide show. | 12:30 |
| toadlife | I'm running a custom stock-like ROM | 12:30 |
| toadlife | BUt the stock sprint ROM didn't jhave Sense either. | 12:30 |
| hyc | ok | 12:31 |
| hyc | slideshow, that's what we got too | 12:31 |
| toadlife | Is that the problem? | 12:31 |
| hyc | is your custom rom rooted? | 12:31 |
| toadlife | Yes | 12:31 |
| hyc | that's part of the problem. the first part is buggy msg format that stock android wouldn't download. | 12:32 |
| hyc | rpierce99: can you send the cmds to pull the pdu from mmssms.db? | 12:33 |
| hyc | don't have them handy at the moment | 12:33 |
| rpierce99 | toadlife: did the message text play as another part of the slideshow | 12:33 |
| hyc | what model phone is this? | 12:34 |
| toadlife | I have the Epic 4G (Galaxy S). Running this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922773&highlight=swype | 12:34 |
| hyc | ok | 12:34 |
| toadlife | THe message showed up before the slide show started | 12:35 |
| hyc | froyo, not gb right? (haven't checked the link yet) | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | looks like gb to me | 12:35 |
| hyc | ah | 12:36 |
| toadlife | It's bastardize Froyo - a bunch of crap from GB meshed in | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:36 |
| hyc | gb has the download fix | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | tiad8 build? | 12:36 |
| toadlife | lol | 12:36 |
| toadlife | No | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | Based on Android 2.2 Froyo EC05 Official Release. | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | guess i should read the first line in the thread, shame on me. | 12:36 |
| hyc | or rather, gb *can* have the d/l fix, if it's turned on in config.xml | 12:37 |
| toadlife | Yeah, it's just got the GB theme plus some other GB stuff in it | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:37 |
| hyc | gb framework would be the key element | 12:37 |
| toadlife | I'm missing the TP2 keyboard and the tilt keyboard. | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | toadlife you ready to pull some pdu parts for us? | 12:37 |
| hyc | heh | 12:38 |
| toadlife | Sure | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | adb shell | 12:38 |
| toadlife | I'm there | 12:38 |
| toadlife | su'd | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | cd /data/data/com.and*telep*/databases | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | sqlite3 mmssms.db | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | select * from part; | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | copy and paste the last 3-6 records | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | pastebin plz | 12:39 |
| toadlife | hmm not found | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | at which | 12:39 |
| toadlife | sqlite3 mmssms.db | 12:39 |
| toadlife | maybe I need the full path to sqlite | 12:39 |
| hyc | no sqlite3 binary? | 12:40 |
| toadlife | lol. I'm looking for it. Looks like no | 12:40 |
| hyc | might need to copy it from another phone, may not be installed | 12:40 |
| rpierce99 | i can up my sqlite3 binary if you want | 12:41 |
| hyc | i had to install it on my Hero | 12:41 |
| toadlife | I found | 12:42 |
| toadlife | /system/bin/drm_sqlite3_test | 12:42 |
| toadlife | /system/lib/libsqlite.so | 12:42 |
| toadlife | But no sqllite3 | 12:42 |
| toadlife | hrmm. the sqlitetest one seems to be sqlite3 | 12:43 |
| toadlife | lemme try it with that | 12:43 |
| toadlife | Oh nm, That's not what I need | 12:43 |
| hyc | ? | 12:44 |
| rpierce99 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50423/sqlite3 | 12:45 |
| rpierce99 | adb push it to /bin | 12:45 |
| rpierce99 | at least that's where it is on mine | 12:45 |
| toadlife | I figure out where to put it | 12:46 |
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| toadlife | http://pastebin.com/K2GANwbi | 12:51 |
| rpierce99 | 2 pars, no dur | 12:52 |
| hyc | yeah, interesting | 12:53 |
| rpierce99 | so the first image you see when you click the slideshow is the text? | 12:53 |
| hyc | how does the slideshow play? how long does it put a slide up? | 12:53 |
| smiley_ | changed to froyo from GIT I hope it will be more stable and not suddenly get 10 in load for no reason | 12:53 |
| smiley_ | but i have problem when i overclock and get back from sleep | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | don't overclock | 12:54 |
| smiley_ | i saw a kernelpatch about that from dec.. not sure if it doesnt work for RAPH | 12:54 |
| toadlife | The slideshow is q6 seconds long. The first thing that shows is the text, at exactly 8 seconds in the picture shows up. After 16 seconds the slideshow ends and the picture is left showing | 12:54 |
| toadlife | 16 seconds long I mean | 12:55 |
| hyc | ok | 12:55 |
| smiley_ | arrrghhh: yeah.. but when i can get almost 150MHz extra ;) | 12:55 |
| hyc | sounds like they just shoved a default of 8 seconds in for everything | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:55 |
| rpierce99 | yep, other than the 8 second default instead of manual transition, everything is the same as the hacks you put in | 12:55 |
| toadlife | Gotto go feed my daughter. bb in a few | 12:56 |
| hyc | yep | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | so every sprint android device has to deal with this poop... | 12:56 |
| hyc | yep | 12:56 |
| rpierce99 | well to be fair, that's a hacked AOSP rom | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess i feel a little better. | 12:56 |
| rpierce99 | not a carrier rom | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | well i'm assuming the carrier ROM's have a similar solution | 12:56 |
| hyc | eh? isn't it a hacked carrier rom? | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | unless they just break MMS, which Sprint's not that dumb. | 12:57 |
| hyc | lol | 12:57 |
| rpierce99 | hyc: no | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, nah it's AOSP | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | at least it says it is... based on Android 2.2 Froyo EC05 Official Release. | 12:57 |
| hyc | ah ok | 12:57 |
| hyc | Touchwiz framework | 12:58 |
| hyc | Heh, read his changelog, 3.1.1 Patch - Fixed MMS by restoring stock Mms.apk | 13:00 |
| toadlife | So there's some secret sauce in their mms | 13:01 |
| rpierce99 | so the 8 sec fix is the sprint fix then | 13:01 |
| hyc | probably | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | man... i really hope this does get somewhere. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | cuz this is dumb. | 13:01 |
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13671167&highlight=mms#post13671167 | 13:05 |
| hyc | it's the download fix too | 13:05 |
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| arrrghhh | Slycker, you got that 3.5mm jack workin yet? :P | 13:09 |
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| Slycker | I've poked arund a bit (though moving has been taking almost allbmy free time) | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea looking at all the posts related to MMS, the stock MMS.apk fixes their issues. | 13:10 |
| Slycker | I'm curious to see where the new audio routing changes lead, so I don't work off of outdated code | 13:11 |
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| arrrghhh | hahaha | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | well they're almost done AFAIK | 13:12 |
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| arrrghhh | there's still a speakerphone/dual mic issue where the dual mics don't work yet | 13:12 |
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| arrrghhh | and there's probably some cleanup jb needs to do | 13:12 |
| hyc | yeah, just watch his git repo | 13:12 |
| hyc | he's already done a major cleanup in the past couple weeks | 13:12 |
| hyc | but still working on that mic/spkrphone issue I think | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | dude never updates people | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | just gotta kang from his tree :P | 13:13 |
| hyc | heh. and hope you don't get a bad revision, like I did first time 'round. | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 13:13 |
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| rpierce99 | i love how the "Simply AOSP" rom has a crapton of bloatware | 13:23 |
| hyc | lol. yteah, hard to see what's AOSP about it :P | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | before it was hacked into that beast, it was AOSP lol | 13:26 |
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| toadlife | Yeah, looks like the ROM started out AOSP early, but caught a case of featurecreepitis | 13:33 |
| hyc | uh huh | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | heh. sprint guy is going to call me now. crap, 59 minutes ago, wtf phone. | 13:38 |
| toadlife | Hey. Anyone run quadrant on theTP2? What does it score? | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | 17 | 13:40 |
| hyc | hm, I've run it. nothin impressive | 13:40 |
| smiley_ | I'm not gonna even try to start that on my TP1 ;) | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:40 |
| toadlife | When I got this phone, it scored ~750. My wife's HD2 running Android scored 1000+ | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, might do better than the TP2 | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, that's not a fair comparison. | 13:41 |
| toadlife | With the custom ROM and overclocked my phone scores 2000+ | 13:41 |
| toadlife | Stock sprint ROM is junk | 13:41 |
| smiley_ | you think? isnt TP2 better-faster-stronger.. ;) | 13:41 |
| hyc | TP1 and TP2 have same CPU, scores should be the same | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | tp1 has less pixels to push. although quadrant isn't really testing that... | 13:42 |
| smiley_ | ah | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, tp2 really didn't get any upgrades hardware-wise. same ram, cpu... | 13:42 |
| hyc | I got 466 just now | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | 17 was close | 13:43 |
| toadlife | 466 isn't bad. | 13:43 |
| hyc | faster than Moto Droid and Sony X10i | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | i love that scale. | 13:43 |
| hyc | just behind HTC Desire | 13:43 |
| smiley_ | W/WindowManager( 1308): App freeze timeout expired. | 13:43 |
| smiley_ | argh | 13:43 |
| hyc | and just behind N1 | 13:44 |
| hyc | with a slight overclock it would be above all of that | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | uh huh | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure... | 13:44 |
| smiley_ | I wish overclock could stay stable trough sleep :( | 13:44 |
| hyc | right now I'm at stock 528MHz, I was running 700MHz for a while | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't 'feel' that much difference with OC | 13:45 |
| hyc | but really, it only seemed to make any difference in benchmarks :P | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | it seemed more jittery | 13:45 |
| hyc | there are too many elements to consider in the phone. the ARM11 runs app code, so it should speed up. | 13:46 |
| hyc | but the GPU and DSPs aren't overclocked at the same time | 13:46 |
| hyc | so graphics remains unchanged | 13:46 |
| nautis | pfft tiads USTOPABLE BUILD had a score of 670.... :p | 13:46 |
| hyc | audio/video codecs unchanged | 13:46 |
| toadlife | arrrghhh, your phone is weird. My phone was smooth while OC'd | 13:46 |
| hyc | ARM9 isn't overclocked, so internet data speeds unchanged. | 13:46 |
| * nautis slowly backs away from chan | 13:46 | |
| toadlife | That's a nice score tiad made up | 13:47 |
| toadlife | ;P | 13:47 |
| toadlife | Actually, probably just an OC'd score. | 13:48 |
| nautis | quadrant scores are pretty variable | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, mine lagged even more if that's possible. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | although when it wasn't lagging it did seem a little snappier. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | not worth it, not even close IMHO. | 13:49 |
| smiley_ | has much been done in gingerbread for the overall responsiveness? It feels more responsive than froyo | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | it's gingerbread | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | it is more responsive than Froyo. | 13:49 |
| hyc | gah. folks from tiad8.com are hitting my FRX06+ downloads | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, how can you tell? | 13:49 |
| D3tul3 | google analytics | 13:49 |
| hyc | referrer in apache logs | 13:49 |
| D3tul3 | or that:) | 13:49 |
| nautis | add a virus quick! | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | noes | 13:49 |
| hyc | 'ssok. they can't get any of it to work | 13:50 |
| toadlife | hyc, no doubt, tiad's new superduperROM is based off your build. | 13:50 |
| hyc | http://tiad8.com/htc-touch-pro-2/109-build-froyo-blue-cwm-2011-05-15-a-17.html | 13:50 |
| smiley_ | ok.. gonna try froyo a bit more and then go back to gingerbread again and see if it's still going down the lag road after awhile | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | gawd. what an awful site. | 13:52 |
| toadlife | lol @ that thread | 13:52 |
| * hyc nods | 13:52 | |
| hyc | I'm gonna put an IQ test in front of the downloads. | 13:53 |
| hyc | sheesh... | 13:53 |
| smiley_ | lol | 13:53 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, if only you could tailor the links to magically disappear if the referrer comes from tiad8.com lol | 13:55 |
| toadlife | arrrghhh, you could do that | 13:55 |
| hyc | eh, they can always just copy/paste the FRX06 link to their browser to drop referrer | 13:55 |
| toadlife | mod_rewrite | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, they're not that smart. | 13:56 |
| hyc | LOL | 13:56 |
| hyc | like I said, I need to add an IQ test ;) | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | man he still boils my blood. | 13:56 |
| nautis | could always post a nice message about tiad for those visiting from there | 13:56 |
| hyc | mmm, interesting idea. | 13:56 |
| hyc | I can just write a CGI script that checks the headers and then redirects appropriately | 13:57 |
| stinebd | put a self-destruct in your build | 13:57 |
| hyc | lol | 13:57 |
| toadlife | You can require a referrer. We did at OFPEC.com when I was an admin. People were hotlinking like crazy. | 13:57 |
| stinebd | if he goes dicking around with the build.prop, have it die | 13:57 |
| toadlife | mod_rewrite is the shit | 13:57 |
| nautis | indeed mad haxors use mod_rewrite | 13:57 |
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| hyc | well, all the source code for all of my changes is online now. anyone can compile a working build if they want to. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | they won't | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | they'll just kang when it's released. | 13:59 |
| D3tul3 | er, not anyone can compile | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | i'm gonna laugh when tiad8 tries to crap all the new crap that'll be in the new build. | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | crap all the new crap? | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | kang all the new crap. | 14:00 |
| hyc | wtf :P | 14:00 |
| stinebd | i think in FRX07 i'll start adding bombs | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | do it. | 14:00 |
| toadlife | hey, crap can be a noun and a verb. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | crappy crap | 14:01 |
| toadlife | I crap crap all the time | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 14:01 |
| toadlife | noun, verb and adjective nice | 14:01 |
| hyc | interesting idea, dunno what would be reliable triggers. don't want it to blow up when I go tinkering on my own. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 14:01 |
| stinebd | i have no comment | 14:02 |
| stinebd | this channel is logged | 14:02 |
| hyc | ;) | 14:02 |
| toadlife | Kinda like 'fuck'... "Fuck the fucking fuckers." | 14:02 |
| hyc | PM | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | fuck is pretty versatile. | 14:02 |
| toadlife | :) | 14:02 |
| toadlife | Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UA578yQ5g | 14:03 |
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| nautis | I still think this needs to be arrghhs default post on xda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen that video linked so many times. | 14:05 |
| nautis | it does get straight to the point | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:07 |
| hyc | awesome, haven't seen that before | 14:07 |
| toadlife | heh. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | lunchtime, bbl | 14:07 |
| rpierce99 | that is the greatest thing i have ever witnessed | 14:11 |
| D3tul3 | i wish they toned it down a little bit....though perhaps to get people's attention these days you do need to hit them with a sledge hammer.... | 14:12 |
| hyc | yah, I think that's the point | 14:12 |
| D3tul3 | coming from the perspective from a user who came very late in the game and was a noob not so long ago - i know you can run into a lot of attitude even when your posts are properly addressed/respectful etc.... | 14:14 |
| toadlife | D3tul3, well you can't avoid the arrrghhh's of the world. | 14:15 |
| hyc | :P | 14:15 |
| toadlife | and the hyc's | 14:15 |
| toadlife | :D | 14:15 |
| hyc | ah, avoiding me is easy, I don't show up everywhere. | 14:15 |
| hyc | and more than likely, I'll avoid *you* ;) | 14:16 |
| toadlife | Fuckin work. I took two weeks off for the baby...but of course they *need* me to fix something by Friday. | 14:16 |
| D3tul3 | meh, haven't been on the receiving end from those two yet :) | 14:17 |
| nautis | geesh they almost have usb host working on nook color | 14:19 |
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| stinebd | just gotta get vbus hooked in there and it's done | 14:47 |
| akumax | i work in an office where everyone else has an iphone | 14:52 |
| akumax | xdandroid's keeping me on lol | 14:52 |
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| toadlife | akumax, only the cool kids have iphones. | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | just got off the phone with the sprint rep... he was pretty open and understanding. obviously since this has no customer impact, things won't change quickly... but he's opening a ticket with their messaging group, we'll see where it goes. | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, he also said there's a site, sprint.com/developer where there's a dev forum for Sprint? | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | he suggested we post on there. i can certainly take care of that if you don't want to. i'd just be reposting your work tho :P | 15:53 |
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| hyc | go ahead | 16:10 |
| hyc | if they need to get more info later I can fill in | 16:10 |
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| arrrghhh | cool | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | thx dude. | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | the sprint guy was pretty helpful. we'll see how much farther it goes past him, but so far i'm still hopeful. he actually listened to what i had to say, and understood the tcpdumps... | 16:12 |
| hyc | ok, that sounds promising. | 16:13 |
| hyc | always good when you're talking to the right people | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | he did seem to think it'll be a little more difficult since it's not a 'customer-facing' issue. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | which i understand, but i kept harping on the fact that they're mangling messages and all these phones need messy hacks in order to properly process messages. | 16:14 |
| rpierce99 | i'd think that the phone manufacturers that have to work around their flaws would want it fixed | 16:14 |
| hyc | Heh | 16:14 |
| hyc | yeah no kidding | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | you'd think so | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps Sprint provides an MMS.apk, no choice in the matter for carriers. | 16:15 |
| hyc | I guess they really don't care about people activating Verizon phones on their network | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how other platforms handle it tho | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | this can't only be an Android problem. we can just see how to fix it from the Android side. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you can't. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | Sprint will ONLY activate Sprint devices. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | they cross-check the ESN. | 16:15 |
| hyc | OK. soreally, this doesn't affect any of their regular customers. | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | nope. | 16:16 |
| rpierce99 | knowing how lazy devs are most of the time, I bet that the Mms.apk fix that has been done for official sprint releases wouldn't be backwards compatible with the proper method, so they'd have to patch those | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's a good point. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | in which case, they'll never fix it. | 16:18 |
| hyc | heh | 16:18 |
| rpierce99 | for the downloading issue, not so much for the invalid pdu | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | oh well, i'm still going to press. | 16:18 |
| hyc | Hm I guess it depends on how they patched the download issue. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 16:19 |
| hyc | if they accept both the binary and the text encoding, no problem. | 16:19 |
| hyc | If they patched to only accept their broken text encoding, yeah, bogus. | 16:19 |
| hyc | my patch accepts both. | 16:19 |
| rpierce99 | no guarantee it's limited to android though | 16:20 |
| hyc | They could easily fix the reformatting bug. probably if they just make sure not to strip the duration parameter, things would be OK. | 16:21 |
| hyc | not perfect, but at least usable. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | we'll see how far it goes. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling this 'dev' forum on sprint's site is gonna go nowhere. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | most posts are ancient. | 16:21 |
| hyc | heh | 16:21 |
| hyc | they really ought to re-think their reformatter though. | 16:22 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 16:22 |
| hyc | we saw this with Sprint to Sprint MMSs right? Otherwise the culprit could be in the GSM to CDMA gateway | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | my gf's on Sprint, on a dumbphone. | 16:24 |
| hyc | does it receive MMSs without problem? | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | her phone does, yea. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's not an Android device tho, like i said dumbphone... | 16:25 |
| hyc | right | 16:25 |
| hyc | would be interesting to know what that x-wap-profile is | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | how can i tell? | 16:25 |
| hyc | but we didn't really find a lot of difference besides screen dimensions huh | 16:25 |
| rpierce99 | tcpdump :) | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | yeano | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | Message body cannot be larger than 4000 characters | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | FU sprint dev forum. | 16:27 |
| hyc | lol | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | http://tinyurl.com/42eksdt | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | there's the sprint dev post if you're interested. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | just a copy pasta of your work really :p | 16:31 |
| hyc | ok | 16:32 |
| hyc | google "sprint mms receive bugs" I see a thread for Palm Treo, same thing. | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 16:36 |
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| arrrghhh | well now let's see how much Sprint cares about their developer community... | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | the Sprint rep actually was really interested in the project. said it was a lot more interesting than what he does :P | 16:37 |
| hyc | lol | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. no way to subscribe to the thread... bastages. | 16:38 |
| hyc | http://discussion.treocentral.com/treo-pro/178022-palm-800w-threaded-sms-treo-pro.html | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | probably setup the forum all themselves instead of using phpbb or something freakin simple. | 16:38 |
| hyc | "MMS receive fails on download step. (Sprint only)" | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:39 |
| stinebd | people actually use mms? | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | rubes | 16:40 |
| stinebd | oh wait | 16:40 |
| stinebd | it has a different name among laypeople | 16:40 |
| stinebd | "sexting" | 16:40 |
| hyc | http://www.droidforums.net/forum/tech-issues-bug-reports-suggestions/32775-mms-photos-coming-videos-via-txt-messaging.html | 16:40 |
| hyc | Moto Droid on Verizon, has problems viewing MMS sent from Sprint | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 16:41 |
| hyc | same thing, it's being shown as a slideshow | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | stupid. | 16:41 |
| stinebd | there's another one about t-mobile though | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | really stupid. i hope they fix this crap. | 16:41 |
| stinebd | http://www.droidforums.net/forum/tech-issues-bug-reports-suggestions/32775-mms-photos-coming-videos-via-txt-messaging.html#post504433 | 16:42 |
| hyc | so Sprint's bug is obvious to non-Sprint users receiving msgs originated on Sprint networks | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | good, maybe that'll help. i'm emailing the rep with these links :D | 16:42 |
| hyc | cool | 16:43 |
| hyc | this thread says it was a recent change as of March 2010 | 16:43 |
| hyc | mebbe they'll be narrow it down to a particular system upgrade they deployed | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | y'know... | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | the sprint rep said that their MMS platform is only 1-2 years old. | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | so perhaps when they rolled out a 'new' platform. | 16:44 |
| hyc | sounds about right | 16:44 |
| hyc | http://androidforums.com/samsung-intercept-virgin-mobile/256116-mms-not-working-2.html | 16:45 |
| hyc | is Virgin Mobile a Sprint reseller? | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 16:45 |
| hyc | so, same issue | 16:46 |
| hyc | and this is affecting their own devices. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | Virgin Mobile is weird tho... i'll still put it in my email. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | dude's going to hate me by the end of this lol | 16:46 |
| hyc | lol | 16:46 |
| hyc | just tell him to do the same google search I told you. :P | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha i mentioned it. | 16:47 |
| stinebd | fine | 16:47 |
| stinebd | totally ignore the tmo thing | 16:47 |
| stinebd | see if i care | 16:47 |
| hyc | yeah, I saw that. | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:47 |
| stinebd | he probably uses sprint and thinks its tmobile | 16:47 |
| hyc | lol | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | probably. | 16:48 |
| stinebd | so i was using att's site earlier and got this | 16:49 |
| stinebd | Failure of server APACHE bridge: No backend server available for connection: timed out after 10 seconds or idempotent set to OFF. Build date/time: Dec 5 2006 14:39:09 Change Number: 871803 | 16:49 |
| stinebd | 2006. | 16:50 |
| hyc | lol | 16:51 |
| hyc | http://forums.miui-dev.com/showthread.php?4980-MMS-issue-on-1.4.8 | 16:54 |
| hyc | anyone developing 3rd party builds is running into this bug and will have to rediscover the fixes on their own, it seems | 16:56 |
| hyc | http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/23168-mms-not-receiving/ | 16:57 |
| hyc | ok, done browsing, off to get some lunch | 16:57 |
| hyc | interesting http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/23168-mms-not-receiving/page__view__findpost__p__192589 | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:02 |
| rpierce99 | btw in case anyone cares, killing scbs fixed my battery life problems | 17:03 |
| hyc | jonpry probably cares... | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | that's a pretty asstastic fix. | 17:04 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hey, anyone know if it's possible to tell android that my radio is in fact ON! | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, did you ask that to get flamed? lol | 17:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | no I asked 'cause the damn thing won't come up with CDMA radio on! | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 17:06 |
| NeoMatrixJR | 3 consecutive boots: radio off, GSM (no sim), Radio off | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | might want to provide some more info. several of us use CDMA no problem. | 17:06 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I forget how to find ril version | 17:07 |
| rpierce99 | it's in the radio logcat | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | are you on the stock RIL? | 17:07 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'm going to have to shut it down and check the card to remember what I've got. | 17:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | is there a way to check ril version while running? | 17:09 |
| rpierce99 | radio logcat | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I thought so | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | have to do that pretty early tho | 17:09 |
| rpierce99 | yeah it may have rolled over | 17:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | what's the line say though so I can see if I can find it | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | RIL version something something hyc | 17:09 |
| hyc | I think you could just run strings on the .so file | 17:09 |
| rpierce99 | RIL Daemon version: HTC Vogue Community RIL | 17:10 |
| hyc | yep | 17:10 |
| NeoMatrixJR | HTC Vogue Community RIL hyc b585e5f 2011-04-28 22:41:47 -0700 | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | there's a newer version AFAIK | 17:11 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hang on I'll dump the radio logcat | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | ril2-d01e7f8.zip is the newest | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | 5/31 | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | although the newest one just has that GSM delivery status fix. | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | not sure which one came before that.. | 17:12 |
| NeoMatrixJR | http://www.justinwricheson.us/share/tp2/radioLogcat.log | 17:12 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ...I need a new domain | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | RIL Daemon version: HTC Vogue Community RIL hyc b585e5f 2011-04-28 22:41:47 -0700 | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | same | 17:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh that's what you're running or that's what's in the 5/31 zip? | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | probably both | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno what i'm running anymore, i just let hyc do all the work. | 17:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | been getting a lot of wierd FC's on google maps when I'm not even running it too lately.... | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | duno | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes my phone seems ridiculously fast | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | other times it just drags. | 17:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | same here | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming it's related to multitasking - and Android assuming this phone can handle it lol | 17:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | mostly with the dragging tho | 17:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I think it's due to the SD write. My phone pretty much locks up when dl/install from market | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 17:17 |
| stinebd | upgrade eligible | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | someone did mention the MMC code needs some work | 17:17 |
| stinebd | not gonna upgrade | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | but that seemed related to class10 cards. | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | or higher class cards. | 17:18 |
| stinebd | phones suck right now | 17:18 |
| stinebd | bring back the notification led and we'll talk | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why new phones don't use a notification lED | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | LED | 17:18 |
| stinebd | because the iphone doesn't | 17:18 |
| stinebd | gotta apple it up! | 17:18 |
| * NeoMatrixJR kills the iphone with fire | 17:18 | |
| arrrghhh | crapple. | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if the evo3d will have one | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy is way too freakin stoked for that device. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | i know what the evo3d will have | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | he broke the hell out of his TP2, won't even turn on now. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | an unlocked bootloader baby | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | i noes | 17:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | evo3d = keyboard? | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | he's really excited about htat. | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, no. | 17:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | :( | 17:19 |
| stinebd | that's why i'm abstaining from the atrix | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | seems no body wants a physical keyboard. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | besides the terrible crap moto did to it | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:20 |
| stinebd | you could not imagine the horrors i've seen from one week with that phone | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | i have some friends with moto droids. | 17:20 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I hate the VK's. They all suck IMHO. Swype is a joke for me. Can't see keys under my thumb so I can't hit them when swyping | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | i told them to stay away, meh. | 17:21 |
| stinebd | you fail at qwerty? | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, yea i don't like 'em either. | 17:21 |
| stinebd | swype is a breeze if you know how to actually type | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | i fail at virtual keyboards. | 17:21 |
| hyc | your logcat is missing timestamps so a bit tough to pinpoint | 17:21 |
| hyc | but it booted up fine with CDMA | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | but how can you see what freakin character your finger is on stinebd ? | 17:21 |
| hyc | and established CDMA data connection too | 17:21 |
| stinebd | you're swyping | 17:21 |
| stinebd | you look at the next key | 17:22 |
| stinebd | then swype to it | 17:22 |
| stinebd | it's not rocket surgery | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:22 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | I fail swyping qwerty. I 2 thumb my keyboard so I don't know where all the keys are with one thumb | 17:22 |
| hyc | then somewhere along there, the phone app died and restarted | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | evidently it is for me. | 17:22 |
| hyc | it also had an exception parsing your eri.xml file | 17:22 |
| stinebd | i've broken several land touchscreen typing speed records with swype | 17:22 |
| hyc | so I'd start by looking at that as the cause | 17:22 |
| NeoMatrixJR | but that's the thing...finger covers keys, can't see next key, hit 5 other keys finding the key I want...suckage | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea, swype was a horrible experience for me too. | 17:23 |
| stinebd | with swype all you have to do is get within 2 inches of the key you want | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | then i slid out my physical keyboard <3 | 17:23 |
| stinebd | honestly i don't know how people could have issues with it | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | fat fingers? | 17:23 |
| stinebd | other than using it on a rhod | 17:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I pull eri.xml.... | 17:23 |
| stinebd | i could see that | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yes...fat fingers. :P | 17:23 |
| stinebd | another thing i can't stand about current phones | 17:24 |
| stinebd | and this goes for my n1 too | 17:24 |
| stinebd | they can't survive a 10-story drop | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:24 |
| hyc | uh .... | 17:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | http://www.justinwricheson.us/share/tp2/eri.xml | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | that really is a horrible domain name NeoMatrixJR | 17:25 |
| hyc | I guess you need the rubber-coated titanium shell | 17:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah.... | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | and that link is empty | 17:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I used to have pcmodcentral.com.... | 17:25 |
| stinebd | well it had a chip in the one edge of the glass that i'm certain weakened it | 17:25 |
| hyc | that file looks OK to me | 17:25 |
| stinebd | considering that's where the web of broken glass started | 17:25 |
| hyc | dunno... | 17:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh, what browser? I've had that happen to me on xml files before. It shows up fine for me | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | eh, might be FF | 17:26 |
| hyc | FF might be trying to interpret the XML as markup, and failing | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | chrome worked fine. | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i think that's what is happening... | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below. | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | FF evidently didn't do that :P | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, "TheMatrix". How much a month do you pay for that plan? | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:27 |
| hyc | seamonkey does that for me | 17:27 |
| NeoMatrixJR | $30 to Sprint :) | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | never heard of "TheMatrix" network :P | 17:27 |
| NeoMatrixJR | for that I get cool phone usage and I get to name my own network! | 17:27 |
| hyc | bummed that GSM doesn't let us do that. mebbe time for a new framework hack... | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, lol | 17:28 |
| NeoMatrixJR | but seriously... am I missing something? The file looks ok. | 17:28 |
| hyc | right, looks ok to me, dunno what the problem is | 17:29 |
| hyc | try running fix_permissions | 17:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | it's been working, but it has been saying "roaming indicator <blah>" instead of "TheMatrix" | 17:29 |
| hyc | eh, just add more lines to the eri.xml to cover the other roaming numbers | 17:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I don't care if it says something else when NOT on 128, but I did think that it was odd that it wasn't giving me the right text | 17:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | fix_permissions? | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | CM Script | 17:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | found cyanogenmod thing on it | 17:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hmmm | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 17:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | need to find download for it. Give me a few and I'll try it. | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | one of my posts has it | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | search the TP2 section on xda-devs | 17:32 |
| hyc | usually if things randomly start failing, fix_permissions will fix it | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | poop, got some real work to do. bbl. | 17:32 |
| hyc | and that might explain the failure to parse the eri.xml file, if it couldn't access it. | 17:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | back in a few. I gotta VPN into work and that'll kill my irc connection | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. is there a freakin excel-like piece of software that doesn't crash constantly? | 17:38 |
| stinebd | libreoffice | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | excel 2007 crashes constantly, and so does the newest libreoffice. bleh. | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that keeps locking up on me HARD. | 17:38 |
| stinebd | you're probably doing it wrong then | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | this is a big spreadsheet, but c'mon. | 17:38 |
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| arrrghhh | too many pretty colors, libreoffice can't handle it? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | koffice | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | that works on windows? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | all of kde works on windows | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't know that port was complete. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | can i run KDE on Windows? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | what did i just say? | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | sorry sir. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho, i didn't realize that port was completed. | 17:40 |
| toadlife | Why you would want to run KDE on Windows is the question | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | cuz Windows sucks. | 17:40 |
| toadlife | KDE sucks more | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 17:40 |
| toadlife | And I say this as a long time KDE fan | 17:40 |
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| arrrghhh | tell that to Linus. | 17:40 |
| stinebd | don't start | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:41 |
| toadlife | Don;t think Linus cares what I think | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea, pretty sure i don't care what you think at this point. | 17:41 |
| toadlife | Tried xfce at hyc's suggestion | 17:41 |
| toadlife | It's excellent | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | slightly less bloated GNOME. | 17:41 |
| toadlife | On FreeBSD that is a plus. | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't find it much better than GNOME tho | 17:42 |
| toadlife | Gnome and KDE are linux-centric. This leads to breakage in FreeBSD | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | so i didn't see the point in using it... i didn't like how gnome did things, why would i like xfce. | 17:42 |
| mes | I see no merge requests for xdandroid, all hyc's patches merged? | 17:43 |
| toadlife | When I was first using KDe on FreeBSD I created a user in the KDE control panel. Hosed the entire system | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | mes, no | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | there's still a ton of merge requests. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know why you would use a DE on FreeBSD, but I also have no clue why you would use FreeBSD as a desktop OS. | 17:44 |
| mes | right, that was merge requests in manifest, sorry | 17:44 |
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| toadlife | FreeBSD works just fine as a workstation. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | I never said it flat-out wouldn't work. | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | just seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth. | 17:47 |
| stinebd | says the windows user | 17:47 |
| toadlife | lol | 17:47 |
| toadlife | If I was going for least trouble, I would choose Windows or Mac | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, I don't really have a choice @ work... | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use Windows @ home, unless I _have_ to. | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | which is mostly for work... | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | or when i need to update my remote :P | 17:49 |
| toadlife | One of those kewl remotes that are programmable? | 17:52 |
| toadlife | ..that do everything | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that cost an arm & a leg? | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | fortunately i haven't needed to update it in ages. | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | once i got it all setup, which did take some time... it 'just works'. haven't needed to do anything with it except charge it. | 17:53 |
| toadlife | I'm thinking that in a few years every smartphone will come with an IR transmiter and we'll be using our phones as our remotes. | 17:54 |
| toadlife | I read that the Nokia N900 has one, but there wasn't any good software to take advantage of it. | 17:54 |
| toadlife | I stand corrected: http://irreco.garage.maemo.org/ | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | IR is craptacular, other than it's a standard. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | UHF remotes aren't standard... | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | they at least did IR right in that sense. | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's a lot easier to reprogram an IR signal than a UHF frequency... | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | man you give guys BT and all they do is bitch about advanced stuff that doesn't work... | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | as the old saying goes, give 'em an inch and they'll ask for a mile i guess. | 18:03 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stupid VPN blocking irc.... | 18:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | thanks for the fix_permissions tip! phone works now! | 18:19 |
| hyc | ;) | 18:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | still doesn't like my eri file. I did find an old one I used that I know worked. I'll try and push it. | 18:22 |
| hyc | Hm, T-Mo MyTouch 4G Slide may be a worthy upgrade | 18:37 |
| hyc | http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/02/htc-doubleshot-slides-through-the-fcc/ | 18:37 |
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| arrrghhh | yea i saw that on engadget. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | worthless :P | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | despite Sprint's atrocious handling of MMS messages, I'm stickin with 'em. | 18:46 |
| hyc | worrthless? looks nice to me | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | worthless that it's TMO only. | 18:50 |
| hyc | there'll probably be a CDMA version too | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | doubtful. | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | they've never made a CDMA version of the mytouch poop. | 18:51 |
| hyc | hm | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | although I don't really like what they do to those devices, so long as they can be unlocked... | 18:51 |
| hyc | heh | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | the stock ROM on any mytouch device is horrible. | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy's got the MyTouch 4g. what a piece of trash... | 18:51 |
| hyc | ah well. 4-row kbd probably | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | new engadget article got it on the blurry-cam. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | 4-row indeed. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | kbd looks alright tho. nicely spaced keys. | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. libreoffice, you're killing me. | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | not as bad as 'regular' office lol... | 18:55 |
| mes | anyone know how to modify repo to pull from some other repositories, I've modified default.xml but I'm not sure how to use it in a new repo init | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | i'm out, peace guys. | 19:14 |
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| arrrghhh | will lolcat tell me *why* an app is FC'ing? | 20:10 |
| arrrghhh | freakin USAA mobile app won't deposit this check. it either FC's when I snap a pic of the front, or the back. it seems as soon as i hit "use photo" the app crashes... | 20:11 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i was just being impatient... | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | fuck... | 20:18 |
| ryannathans | you sound pretty mad... :P | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | well it's worked before. | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | and it's really conveinent when it works... really inconveinent if it just FC's. | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i got all the way to the auth section | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | and it asked me to retake the front image | 20:24 |
| stinebd | just go to the bank you lazy bastard | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | and it FC'd after that one. i almost threw the phone at the wall. | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, no branches | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'd have to get my lazy ass up and walk over to my scanner. | 20:24 |
| stinebd | you joined a bank for which there are zero local branches? | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | considering the perks, yea. | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | they have a local branch in this state now. they used to only have one location, in San Antonio lol | 20:25 |
| stinebd | military | 20:25 |
| stinebd | you a navy boy? | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | but it doesn't matter, the way USAA is setup i don't need a local branch. | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | no, my dad was. | 20:26 |
| stinebd | oh right | 20:26 |
| stinebd | he bombed hiroshima in his 777 | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | your history books are quite accurate. | 20:26 |
| stinebd | enola gay baby | 20:26 |
| stinebd | don't ask me why i know that | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll have to use mah scanner. | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | yet another stupid reason to *have* to use Windows. | 20:29 |
| stinebd | scanners often work with linux | 20:30 |
| stinebd | there's this thing called sane | 20:30 |
| stinebd | which does not live up to its name btw | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea but USAA's fantastic Deposit@Home doesn't work with Linux | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | worst part is, they outright block you if they pickup a useragent string that shows you're on Linux. | 20:30 |
| stinebd | my bank used to do that | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | there's obviously a way to change the useragent string, but i haven't gotten it to work. | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | i can visit their site w/Linux, just no Deposit@Home... | 20:31 |
| stinebd | this bank serves veterans yeah? | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | yes... | 20:31 |
| stinebd | what the hell makes them think veterans will figure that stuff out? | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | they serve a ton of people now, they're constantly expanding eligibility. | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | veterans don't use computers. | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:32 |
| stinebd | not enough to handle that | 20:32 |
| stinebd | if they knew how to use computers they wouldn't have joined the military :P | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | zing! | 20:32 |
| stinebd | like your pops | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | my dad joined so he could easily get his pilot's license. and free college. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | he actually did know programming before he went into the Navy. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | punch card programming haha | 20:33 |
| stinebd | he wasn't at home, living in his ENIAC and thinking to himself "boy i'm glad i can use this baby to cash checks" | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol cash checks. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | if only my phone could double as an ATM | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty one more | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | then i'm breaking down | 20:34 |
| stinebd | chances are it's a camera problem | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | well i tried this right when the cam got a-workin | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | and it worked, perfectly. | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | and now... fail. | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | camera does seem flaky tho | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it works great, others... fail. | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | We are processing your deposit. Do not navigate away from this page, answer calls, or allow the device to auto-lock until you receive confirmation of your deposit. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | ignore all calls, bitches. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | heyhey that one worked. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | 37th time is the charm. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | best part? the funds are IMMEDIATELY available. | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | every dime. | 20:38 |
| stinebd | no nickels? | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | fuck nickels. | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, "Would also be great if you could sit on irc and discuss this as you work on it." <--- what, so you can bombard him with silly questions? lol | 20:50 |
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| arrrghhh | http://www.flickr.com/photos/8221577@N03/2314947062/sizes/l/ | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | that is an epic colleciton. | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | er. yea. | 22:06 |
| stinebd | you see what i picked up in tokyo? | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | noes | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | an STD? | 22:12 |
| stinebd | no, that's what i gave back to the community | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | so wha'd you get? | 22:12 |
| stinebd | http://twitpic.com/54l614 | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | wowa | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | all new!?? | 22:13 |
| stinebd | not new, no | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | they look so new :P | 22:13 |
| stinebd | the super famicom and psx are both like new | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | i was just talking to Miga, i didn't realize the snes looked so different from the US spec. | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | wow | 22:14 |
| rpierce99 | i'm actually playing chrono trigger at this moment, that's funny | 22:14 |
| Miga | GOOD GOD IS THAT ALL NEW | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | that's... amazing. | 22:14 |
| stinebd | the famicom is fairly worn, but it was pretty inexpensive | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | Miga, lol | 22:14 |
| stinebd | compared to the others they had there | 22:14 |
| stinebd | and they did have some new-in-box AV famicoms (top loaders) | 22:14 |
| stinebd | but those were very expensive | 22:14 |
| Miga | this is one of many reasons why I want to live in japan | 22:14 |
| Miga | /jealousy | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:15 |
| stinebd | if you're ever in town, all but one of those items came from super potato in akihabara | 22:15 |
| stinebd | well all but two | 22:15 |
| stinebd | the mother 2 figurine came from the sega arcade ufo game | 22:15 |
| Miga | I will be in town one day | 22:15 |
| Miga | ONE DAY... | 22:15 |
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| stinebd | mother 3 was the one that they didn't have at super potato, which i was kinda surprised by | 22:15 |
| stinebd | the mother games are nice because the text is hiragana so i might some day understand it | 22:16 |
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| stinebd | chrono trigger i haven't checked yet but i assume it has a fair amount of kanji | 22:16 |
| stinebd | and obviously ff8 will be mostly kanji but my sister wanted that one | 22:17 |
| Miga | hm, hiragana | 22:17 |
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| Miga | I can understand a small bit of hiragana | 22:17 |
| Miga | not very much yet 'cuz I want to actually find a japanese class and learn proper | 22:17 |
| stinebd | hiragana is a syllabary so you still have to know what the words mean | 22:17 |
| Miga | yup | 22:17 |
| stinebd | for mother 1 that won't be too bad, the dialog is very very simple | 22:18 |
| stinebd | mother 2 has a LOT of puns that will fly over my head | 22:18 |
| stinebd | mother 3 i've already played but didn't have the cartridge | 22:18 |
| stinebd | i like the super famicom controller | 22:21 |
| stinebd | the buttons are pretty colors | 22:21 |
| stinebd | not blue/purple/whatever it is and gray | 22:22 |
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