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| jaremylee | i cant get sound from android upgrade | 02:22 |
| jaremylee | help | 02:24 |
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| smiley_ | has there been any work done on making the battery metering more stable on RAPH100? I saw something about RHOD in the forums | 05:14 |
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| ryannathans | PlayStation 1 Emulator on Android, woot! :P | 08:19 |
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| ultradj83 | Dear all... I'm getting crazy with my raphael, keyboard mapping is not correct... | 09:34 |
| ultradj83 | In startup.txt I have physkeyboard=raph | 09:35 |
| ultradj83 | but it's not correct | 09:35 |
| smiley_ | mine works excellent | 09:39 |
| smiley_ | but I have nordic_raph/raph_nordic | 09:39 |
| smiley_ | what kind of keyb layout do you have? | 09:40 |
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| ultradj83 | i've got the italian keyboard | 10:05 |
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| smiley_ | looks like nobody has created an italian keyblayout for raph | 10:12 |
| smiley_ | rhod100 has one | 10:12 |
| smiley_ | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't surprise me | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | not many RAPH folk | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | evidently there's a nordic_raph layout lol | 10:14 |
| smiley_ | hehe.. I have the nordic_raph so I have no problem ;) but ultradj83 needs italian | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | swiss_raph | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | german_raph | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | ask him to make an it_raph | 10:14 |
| smiley_ | yeah | 10:14 |
| ultradj83 | could you please explain how to make it? | 10:14 |
| smiley_ | ultradj83: here is your chance to commit something to the community.. make an italian keymap to raph :) | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | ultradj83, look at the other keymaps | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | it's pretty straightforward AFAIK | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | they're in the rootfs | 10:15 |
| ultradj83 | ookay! | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | f22 really needs to commit his rootfs changes. | 10:15 |
| smiley_ | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/trees/master/init.etc/keymaps | 10:16 |
| smiley_ | but many of them looks to be in .bin format | 10:16 |
| arrrghhh | look at the .kl's | 10:16 |
| arrrghhh | er | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | .kcm | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | fuze_microp-keypad.kcm | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | for example | 10:17 |
| smiley_ | yeah.. but looks like the raph only has .bin according to the init-file | 10:17 |
| smiley_ | 470 | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | elif /bin/grep -c 'physkeyboard=nordic_raph' /proc/cmdline >/dev/null ; then | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | 471 | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | echo "USING NEW NORDIC RAPH LAYOUT" | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | 472 | 10:18 |
| smiley_ | cp -f /init.etc/keymaps/raphfix_microp-keypad-swedish.kcm.bin /etc/keymaps/microp-keypad.kcm.bin | 10:18 |
| ultradj83 | I'm on win7... | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | you'll want linux to do this work methinks. | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | it'll make things easier. | 10:19 |
| smiley_ | http://osdir.com/ml/android-porting/2009-07/msg00213.html | 10:19 |
| ultradj83 | i have a pair of VMs on my laptop | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 10:20 |
| smiley_ | i never figured out how to make rootfs image yesterday when I built latest gingerbread from git | 10:20 |
| smiley_ | I thought it would be built with the system.img but it didnt | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | no | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | there's a script | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | for building rootfs | 10:21 |
| ultradj83 | i'm searching for a raph.kcm | 10:22 |
| smiley_ | arrrghhh: in git? | 10:24 |
| smiley_ | the git repo | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | script is somewheres lol | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure where, never built the rootfs mahself. | 10:24 |
| smiley_ | hehe ;) | 10:24 |
| smiley_ | ok | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | i would imagine the script is in git | 10:25 |
| smiley_ | I will figure out and it can be added to the build wikipage | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think there is a rootfs build wikipage | 10:25 |
| ultradj83 | sorry guys, I've been managing android only for a week... where's the git? | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | ultradj83, he linked you to it earlier | 10:25 |
| ultradj83 | ah ok | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | if you ask F22 really nicely and grab a nice pic of your kbd he might make one for you | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | but he hasn't been around much lately... :( | 10:26 |
| smiley_ | I mean on the http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Building_and_Packaging | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, that's for the system image | 10:26 |
| smiley_ | yeah | 10:26 |
| smiley_ | but wouldnt you want rootfs to be built at the same time? | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | nothing to do with rootfs | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | no | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 10:27 |
| smiley_ | hmm ok | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see any reason why you would need the rootfs built in tandem with the system image... | 10:27 |
| smiley_ | I'm new to this so don't know all the details ;) | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that script is in the scripts for system image... | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea rootfs is a little silly, but i guess it was necessary to break it out. | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs = / basically | 10:28 |
| smiley_ | the thing is that I had to modify the initscript because dhcpcd failed to initalize | 10:28 |
| smiley_ | in rootfs | 10:28 |
| smiley_ | and I guess that was because of changes in gingerbread (the system.img) | 10:29 |
| smiley_ | I did mount the existing rootfs and made the change there so I solved it | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have any issues with that on gb | 10:29 |
| ultradj83 | I cannot find any kcm... shall I browse the rootfs.img through droidexplorer? | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | ultradj83, whatever | 10:30 |
| ryannathans | woah, i look away for a while and something is happening in irc | 10:30 |
| smiley_ | I had.. it tried to launch the service dhcpdcd_tiwlan0 which doesn't exists in init.rc | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, hrm i thought tiwlan was being eliminated | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps that hasn't been completed... | 10:31 |
| ultradj83 | any idea of the path for .kcm? | 10:31 |
| smiley_ | yeah.. someone said it would be replaced with only wlan instead | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 10:31 |
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| arrrghhh | ultradj83, in the rootfs. you were linked to the git, that has direct files for you to look at... | 10:32 |
| ultradj83 | sorry but i cannot see them... | 10:32 |
| smiley_ | but building gingerbread was a nice 5-6 hours full CPU trip ;) | 10:32 |
| smiley_ | works really good.. as long as I don't overclock | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 10:33 |
| smiley_ | only issue I have is that from time to time something really slows down the whole phone.. usually happens after I have been to Market | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | c'est la vie | 10:33 |
| ultradj83 | is this the correct link? http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Building_and_Packaging | 10:36 |
| arrrghhh | ultradj83, good lord that's for the system image. | 10:37 |
| arrrghhh | just ask F22 to make the keymap for you | 10:37 |
| arrrghhh | take a good pic of the keyboard | 10:37 |
| arrrghhh | and ask nicely. | 10:37 |
| smiley_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Raphael_Keyboard lol.. the italian one is missing from that page ;) | 10:39 |
| smiley_ | might be possible to quickly create it since there is one for RHOD (don't know how much difference there is) | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | there's even a placeholder for it. | 10:40 |
| ultradj83 | i'm getting crazy for a keyboard... unbelievable... | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 10:40 |
| smiley_ | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init.etc/keymaps/rhod100_it_microp-keypad.kl thats the italian one for rhod100 | 10:41 |
| ultradj83 | it's completely different | 10:42 |
| arrrghhh | it's a completely different device. | 10:42 |
| arrrghhh | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init.etc/keymaps/fuze_microp-keypad.kl | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | there's the FUZE keypad layout | 10:43 |
| ultradj83 | should be very similar | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 10:44 |
| ryannathans | lol.. | 10:45 |
| ultradj83 | it's better to start from en raphael or similar, this one had different special keys | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | k | 10:46 |
| ryannathans | smiley_: that was me that said it was moving to wlan0 :) | 10:46 |
| smiley_ | I think I have some electrical ground problems in my room.. if I have my raph connected to the Macbook with USB and touch my Dell PC with my feets I can feel electric the hand I'm holding the raph in ;) | 10:46 |
| smiley_ | +grammar | 10:47 |
| ryannathans | sounds safe | 10:47 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like your macbook is trying to kill you | 10:47 |
| ryannathans | don't try running doom or quake on your rhod... the delay is unbearable | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | uhm.. ok? | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | did you expect it to be flawless? lol | 10:48 |
| ryannathans | you push shoot and a few seconds later it reacts | 10:48 |
| ryannathans | w:P | 10:48 |
| smiley_ | probably the PC that is angry since it's always switched off ;) | 10:48 |
| ryannathans | heh, I don't trust Apple products, the end. | 10:49 |
| ryannathans | mac defender? Seriously, what could be runnin on there that isn't displaying itself ;) | 10:50 |
| jon_ | put dell pc and raph across temples and report | 10:51 |
| ryannathans | Frankenstein Inbound. | 10:51 |
| ryannathans | heh, I'm off, have fun. | 10:53 |
| ultradj83 | in my init.etc/keymaps there's no raph.* file | 10:54 |
| ultradj83 | there's a raph_navi_pad.kl | 10:55 |
| smiley_ | yeah | 10:55 |
| smiley_ | the correct keymap gets copied to that file during boot | 10:55 |
| ultradj83 | raphfix_microp-keypad-swedish.kcm.bin | 10:55 |
| ultradj83 | raphfix_microp-keypad-swedish.kcm | 10:55 |
| ultradj83 | raphfix_microp-keypad-swedish.bin | 10:55 |
| ultradj83 | ah ok | 10:55 |
| ultradj83 | copied from? | 10:55 |
| smiley_ | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init | 10:56 |
| smiley_ | the commands are in there | 10:56 |
| arrrghhh | oy | 10:57 |
| ultradj83 | from line 462 | 10:57 |
| smiley_ | and not strange that I couldnt figure out how to build rootfs. that part of the repo wasn't cloned ;) | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 10:58 |
| smiley_ | generate-rootfs.sh :) | 10:58 |
| ultradj83 | but init.etc/keymaps is the source | 10:58 |
| ultradj83 | of the cp | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | smiley_, there's the script. | 10:58 |
| smiley_ | yes.. init.etc is part of the rootfs image | 11:02 |
| ultradj83 | this is my kb: http://postimage.org/image/10taamfus/ | 11:04 |
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| smiley_ | which did you see the raphfix_microp-keypad-swedish.kcm file? | 11:05 |
| ultradj83 | swedish? | 11:06 |
| ultradj83 | effectively it's strange, but it's the only one... | 11:13 |
| ultradj83 | it's in my init.etc/keymaps | 11:14 |
| ultradj83 | for the nordic layout | 11:15 |
| ultradj83 | added raphfix_microp-keypad.kcm.bin | 11:16 |
| ultradj83 | thi is similar but symbols at 1st row are wrong | 11:17 |
| ultradj83 | and FN acts as Maiusc | 11:17 |
| ultradj83 | anybody still there? | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | no | 11:22 |
| ultradj83 | great | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | what do you want | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see a question | 11:22 |
| arrrghhh | so i didn't respond.. | 11:22 |
| ultradj83 | i'm trying to write down the layout on myself | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | still don't see a question | 11:24 |
| ultradj83 | nothing, I cannot find a similar layout to start from | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | there isn't one | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | that's why we're asking you to make one | 11:25 |
| ultradj83 | sure, and how can I use it once ready? | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | build the rootfs | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | using that script smiley_ mentioned earlier | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think you can just name the kl or kcm or bin file something unique | 11:29 |
| ultradj83 | I'll try asap, but I've never built anything,,, | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | and then just use that in the startup | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | i've never done it mahself tho. | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | never needed to create a keymap :P | 11:29 |
| ultradj83 | I exported some keymaps from my device, but I can't open them as text | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | are they .bin? | 11:30 |
| ultradj83 | .bin, .kcm and .kcm.bin | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | you can't open .bin files directly | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | those are compiled | 11:31 |
| ultradj83 | sure, but it's the same with .kcm | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | you can open .kcm and .kl | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | then you're doing something wrong? | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | let me rephrase, i can open .kcm and .kl no problems. | 11:31 |
| ultradj83 | i export files and I try to open with notepad | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:32 |
| ultradj83 | maybe my droid explorer exports corrupter files | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use that trash, notepad++ ftw. | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use droid explorer either... | 11:32 |
| ultradj83 | i use notepad++ | 11:32 |
| ultradj83 | how do you connect the device? | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | adb | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | why not just click on the links we gave earlier? | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | those load in the browser, you shouldn't have issues there... | 11:33 |
| ultradj83 | sorry guy, I clicked them | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | you clicked them | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | but did you read them | 11:33 |
| ultradj83 | mind that I have only a bit of experience with linux | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | i've said it before | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'll say it again | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | ask F22 nicely to make the layout for you. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | it seems like you're in over your head, and you're drowning. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | like trying to learn calculus before you know basic maths. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | you need to learn the basics before you jump into this advanced stuff. | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | don't go straight to the advanced stuff. | 11:35 |
| ultradj83 | no, it's only that you're talking to a person that has no knowledge on linux and android | 11:35 |
| ultradj83 | yes of course | 11:35 |
| ultradj83 | who is F22? | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | guy who made a lot of modifications to the keymaps | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | and makes a custom rootfs | 11:35 |
| ultradj83 | how can I write him? | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | post in his thread | 11:36 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935710 | 11:36 |
| ultradj83 | ah yes, I read that 3d, it made me succede configuring hw buttons | 11:38 |
| ultradj83 | I will soon reply again to you on the 3d | 11:42 |
| ultradj83 | thank you so much for help | 11:42 |
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| arrrghhh | 3d? | 12:08 |
| smiley_ | thread? :) | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you thar? i got a response from Sprint. | 12:10 |
| smiley_ | never built the rootfs-image mine is working.. just would be nice to understand what change that caused the error in init.rc | 12:11 |
| smiley_ | btw when I update the git repo I will get the latest updates from google too? not just xdandroidstuff? | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | i think if you pull master | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | which is FUBAR | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | but if you just pull froyo, you'll only get updates from XDAndroid. stinebd does sync the repo with Google on a pretty regular basis. Probably when he's ready to release something new ;). | 12:13 |
| smiley_ | I did pull the gingerbread thread | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | same | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | what i said applies to gb as well | 12:17 |
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| arrrghhh | don't pull master, it's borked. | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | but i think if you do, it'll get updates from lord google. | 12:17 |
| smiley_ | ah | 12:17 |
| smiley_ | yeah I saw master was borked | 12:18 |
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| smiley_ | I'm happy with my build now :) apart from the heavy lagg that seems to occur from time to tim | 12:18 |
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| arrrghhh | heh | 12:33 |
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| smiley_ | what load do you have on your phones? | 13:30 |
| smiley_ | mine seems to stay stuck at 4.00 | 13:30 |
| smiley_ | with 4 processes STAT d | 13:30 |
| smiley_ | "D for uninterruptible sleep" | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | you looking at top...? | 13:33 |
| smiley_ | yeah | 13:34 |
| smiley_ | and ps to get the 4 processes | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | load average for me is 0.32 1.82 and 1.82 | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | 4.00 sounds... high lol | 13:35 |
| smiley_ | yeah | 13:35 |
| smiley_ | put load is just processes waiting | 13:39 |
| smiley_ | but even | 13:39 |
| smiley_ | so it's not CPU.. but still I wonder why | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | something is pegged | 13:40 |
| smiley_ | but you was on froyo still? | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | right now i'm on froyo, yes. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | i've used gb for a couple of weeks as my daily drive. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | driver* | 13:40 |
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| hyc | the idea is to eliminate tiwlan0, but I've only written patches for froyo, no one has done it for GB yet | 14:38 |
| hyc | sprint replied? what'd they have to say? | 14:42 |
| hyc | last I recall, F22 is trying to get away from making all the keymaps, and get other people to learn how instead. | 14:44 |
| hyc | the keymap compiler is part of the build system. if you've built the whole source tree then its in your build/tools | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea sprint responded. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | not well unfortunately. basically said the link i sent them is (now) dead and that they need to understand more... | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | link is not dead, at least not from my end. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like they want to setup a conference call. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | i asked them to give me plenty of warning so i could get you on the call. | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | "The messaging platform is actually pretty new (launched in the last year or two). There are some nuances that are different from the other carriers when sending via protocols such as SMTP (where we include the subject information)." | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | SMTP, i don't get what that has to do with anything. | 14:55 |
| hyc | right, it has nothing to do with this | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think so. | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | since he thinks the link is dead, i'm sure he didn't read it :P | 14:59 |
| hyc | you don't happen to have the actual email I wrote? I could forward you a copy | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000288.html | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | that's the link i gave them. | 15:00 |
| hyc | works fine here | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | ditto | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | i got a meeting tho, bbl. | 15:00 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, so would you be OK with a conference call at some point? | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still not sure "when"... | 16:58 |
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| hyc | sure | 17:03 |
| hyc | but make sure to forward them the actual content of those emails first. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | awesome. thx dude for supporting something that has absolutely no benefit to you. | 17:03 |
| hyc | none of this "link doesn't work" crap | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea i'm going to make sure they read that post. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | is there anything else you want them to read? | 17:03 |
| hyc | and the followup | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to show them the next post from the ML as well | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | cool. i'm with ya. | 17:04 |
| hyc | that should cover it | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | schweet. thanks again dude. | 17:04 |
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| emwe | oh, something going on with sprint. wow. | 17:05 |
| emwe | good evening | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | howdy emwe | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm badgering sprint employees. | 17:05 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: chasing phantom bugs... | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like fun? | 17:05 |
| emwe | last two days my topa send menu and back keys stopped working | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | that seems odd | 17:05 |
| emwe | volup voldown and end worked though | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assumign they work in winmo? | 17:06 |
| emwe | then they started working again | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | assuming* | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | that's... odd. | 17:06 |
| emwe | yes they did... | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | still sounds hardware related tho. | 17:06 |
| emwe | no idea really. | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | ditch the TOPA | 17:06 |
| emwe | read what acl said in htc-linux? | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | set it aflame. RHOD is the only thing that matters. | 17:06 |
| emwe | going for 35mm :) | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea, he said it's going to be a PITA for haret tho. | 17:06 |
| emwe | ah reminds me... how much battlife do you get with .27 on your rhod? | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | well obviously it depends on usage | 17:07 |
| emwe | had it running .35 idle for sth like 16 hours | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | but with 100% sleep bzo hit 65+ | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | hrs | 17:07 |
| emwe | wis also mentioned some serious drain on .39 | 17:07 |
| emwe | so i am not alone... | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea, he said he was seeing 6%+ per hr in .39.. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | i did notice my phone getting hot on .39 | 17:07 |
| emwe | ah sounds familiar | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | which hasn't happened since the olden days of .27 | 17:08 |
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| emwe | whonder what it is... | 17:08 |
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| emwe | .27 runs some mixed codeaurora acpuclock mixed in. | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:08 |
| emwe | the imported googles acpuclock impl in their tree but don't use it... | 17:09 |
| emwe | ah man... so less time. in the mids of marriage preparations for mother in law | 17:09 |
| emwe | marrying on 11th... | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | you're preparing a wedding for your mother in law? | 17:09 |
| emwe | well we are the "children" so to speak | 17:10 |
| emwe | so we got some duties | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | ?!? | 17:10 |
| emwe | it's not like we are pure guests | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | you're not getting married, right? | 17:10 |
| emwe | no, we aren't. | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | you just have to show up and get drunk. | 17:10 |
| emwe | nah, some little "management" has to be. | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | at least that's what i usually do at weddings. | 17:11 |
| emwe | also have to make that marriage paper... | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | gawd my buddy is getting married. what a freakin racket. | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | i'm tempted to do it just to get a new kitchen. | 17:11 |
| emwe | you should too, no ;) | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i ever want to get married. | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | but for the free stuff, it's tempting. | 17:11 |
| emwe | i rather have kids before we marry ;) | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:12 |
| emwe | free stuff? | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's kinda backwards, but ok. | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea man, the wedding registry? | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | it's a racket. | 17:12 |
| emwe | i have no idea what a wedding registry is... sry. | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | gift registry? | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean by that, right? gifts? | 17:13 |
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| emwe | so all the stuff the couple gets, ok. | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:13 |
| rpierce99 | the bride and groom make a list of all the crap they want for wedding gifts, people then buy them that stuff | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | it's a racket! | 17:13 |
| stinebd | i get married every time a new video game console comes out | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:14 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: so get your kitchen :P | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | i noes. i'm tempted. | 17:14 |
| rpierce99 | hey stinebd, you know the irc logs aren't working, right? | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | but then i'd actually have to get married. | 17:14 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: meh | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | weird, the logs died yesterday. | 17:15 |
| emwe | yap | 17:15 |
| emwe | missed them at work. | 17:15 |
| stinebd | looks like it's working to me | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, there's logs from 6/1? | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | aw wtf | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | did you just flip a switch :P | 17:16 |
| emwe | lol. they just appeared | 17:16 |
| emwe | he did :) | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | stine manually compiles the logs from each day. | 17:17 |
| stinebd | cron must've been pissed off from the pam config changes i did | 17:19 |
| stinebd | guess you have to restart it sometimes | 17:20 |
| stinebd | we're 16 days away from a year of logs | 17:22 |
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| emwe | stinebd: not that i am digging deep into it at all, but you got an idea about gb's hw3d to fail in terms of neocore? mostly black backgorund and only effects visible? | 17:49 |
| stinebd | well known bug, no known solution | 17:50 |
| stinebd | other apps work normally | 17:50 |
| emwe | wasn't it the same on froyo in the beginnings? | 17:50 |
| stinebd | no | 17:50 |
| emwe | figured earlier the gralloc buffer size isn't patched. | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | that was never an issue on Froyo | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | and like stine said, it's only neocore... other apps/games are fine. | 17:51 |
| emwe | k | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | i think some yokel pull the libs from froyo and put them in gb | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | and then neocore 'just worked' | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | never tried myself. | 17:51 |
| stinebd | wut | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea i dunno. | 17:51 |
| stinebd | what libs? | 17:51 |
| emwe | stinebd: what for was the gralloc buffer size changed required for? | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, probably just the gralloc and the libgles | 17:52 |
| stinebd | emwe: modified gpu size - if the userland egl driver didn't match gralloc's buffer sizes, buffer creation would fail (leading to problems in all apps, including bootanim) | 17:52 |
| stinebd | of course we had to increase it for our devices, from hvga to wvga | 17:53 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: those are included in gingerbread already | 17:53 |
| stinebd | your information is bunk | 17:53 |
| emwe | stinebd: hm, works with "old" and "new" one. upping then. | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol i'm just guessing, and i know they're included | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | but they're different for gb no? | 17:54 |
| stinebd | all i did was switch to the ogles 1.1 driver (in hopes of it fixing that bug -- it didn't) | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | here's the poop post. | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6500 | 17:55 |
| stinebd | what we have now works pretty well for anything other than neocore | 17:55 |
| stinebd | oh fuck off with neopeek | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | i knew you were going to say that. but that's where i read it. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | should've used tinyurl to trick you lol | 17:55 |
| stinebd | lol i love his "possible fix" for the keyboard issue. setting an emulator prop | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | faryaab? | 17:57 |
| rpierce99 | no, neopeek posted that | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | ah i didn't scroll down. | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | ugh... long day. sorry. | 17:59 |
| hyc | neopeek are a bunch of clowns, from all I've seen | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | well in their defense they are mostly kids. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | faryaab is like 14. | 18:00 |
| stinebd | well he's no tiad8 | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | according to his sig :P | 18:00 |
| hyc | lol | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | that's for sure... | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | ah time to go home. take it easy! | 18:02 |
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| hyc | whatever. even at 14 years old I knew how to read documentation and make a computer system do what I wanted. | 18:04 |
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| stinebd | at 14 years old, all you had to work with were punch cards | 18:04 |
| * stinebd runs | 18:04 | |
| hyc | haha. DECwriter. :P | 18:04 |
| hyc | but I still have a paper tape roll with my Star Trek game on it. | 18:04 |
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| jaremylee | pierce | 18:10 |
| jaremylee | hello | 18:10 |
| rpierce99 | yo | 18:10 |
| jaremylee | hey not getting any sound from the phone when in android mode | 18:11 |
| jaremylee | mic not working etc | 18:11 |
| rpierce99 | you downloaded the newest build that I linked you to right? Instead of the one you downloaded the first time | 18:11 |
| jaremylee | yup | 18:12 |
| jaremylee | keeps resetting to windows mode too | 18:12 |
| jaremylee | could i have gotten the wrong start up file would that make a diff | 18:13 |
| rpierce99 | not those symptoms | 18:13 |
| jaremylee | k | 18:13 |
| rpierce99 | those would be indicators of an old build normally | 18:13 |
| jaremylee | should i try to reinstall the build | 18:14 |
| rpierce99 | check in settings, about phone or whatever and check your version numbers | 18:14 |
| jaremylee | k | 18:14 |
| jaremylee | one sec | 18:15 |
| jaremylee | in windows mode or android | 18:15 |
| jaremylee | k got em i think | 18:18 |
| rpierce99 | in android | 18:20 |
| jaremylee | k one sec | 18:21 |
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| jaremylee | sorry pierce son pulled cables out of the wall | 18:50 |
| jaremylee | you there | 18:51 |
| jaremylee | which numbers do you want | 18:51 |
| jaremylee | build or kernel | 18:52 |
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| jaremylee | hopefully i will not get disconnected again | 19:07 |
| jaremylee | pierce let me try this again you still here | 19:07 |
| jaremylee | did i freeze again | 19:11 |
| jaremylee | pierce | 19:15 |
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| jaremylee | hello | 19:15 |
| jaremylee | hmm | 19:16 |
| jaremylee | pierce buddy i really need you right now | 19:18 |
| rpierce99_ | i was afk | 19:19 |
| jaremylee | kool | 19:19 |
| rpierce99_ | anyone can help you though | 19:19 |
| rpierce99_ | just post em both and we'll see what we can figure out | 19:19 |
| jaremylee | i try talking to people last night too any nobody answers | 19:19 |
| jaremylee | k | 19:19 |
| jaremylee | kernel is 2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1 Glemsom@autobuild- | 19:21 |
| jaremylee | build id FRX06 | 19:21 |
| rpierce99_ | well that combo should certainly be getting you audio | 19:22 |
| rpierce99_ | tell me more about where you find you have no audio, in games, just ringers, phone calls, etc | 19:22 |
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| jaremylee_ | having probs with weather affecting my wifi sorry | 19:24 |
| jaremylee_ | [18:20] <jaremylee> kernel is 2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1 Glemsom@autobuild- [18:21] <jaremylee> build id FRX06 | 19:24 |
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| jaremylee_ | lol there i went | 19:26 |
| jaremylee_ | did i lose you | 19:26 |
| jaremylee_ | guess so | 19:28 |
| rpierce99_ | rpierce99_: well that combo should certainly be getting you audio | 19:29 |
| rpierce99_ | [6:22pm] rpierce99_: tell me more about where you find you have no audio, in games, just ringers, phone calls, etc | 19:29 |
| jaremylee_ | phone calls no mic or speaker or ear | 19:29 |
| jaremylee_ | no ringers | 19:29 |
| jaremylee_ | no music | 19:29 |
| jaremylee_ | nada | 19:30 |
| jaremylee_ | just vibrates and all sound is set to on | 19:30 |
| rpierce99_ | you do see ringers in the list though? | 19:30 |
| jaremylee_ | yup | 19:30 |
| rpierce99_ | and you don't have the volume all the way down? haha | 19:30 |
| hyc | turn off vibe... | 19:30 |
| jaremylee_ | nope all the way up | 19:30 |
| jaremylee_ | k | 19:30 |
| jaremylee_ | keep getting errors activity search (in application search) is not responding | 19:31 |
| rpierce99_ | has that happened from the beginning? | 19:33 |
| jaremylee_ | and activity sound settings(in application settings) is not responding | 19:33 |
| jaremylee_ | yes sir it has | 19:34 |
| rpierce99_ | hope you don't have too much customization in, probably time to blow away data.img and let it rebuild | 19:34 |
| rpierce99_ | all apps and settings will be lost | 19:34 |
| jaremylee_ | k | 19:34 |
| rpierce99_ | but it sounds like something funky went on with your first boot | 19:34 |
| rpierce99_ | that made your data freak out | 19:34 |
| jaremylee_ | so delete that file | 19:35 |
| rpierce99_ | rename it just in case a new one has the same issues and you want to roll back to this one | 19:35 |
| rpierce99_ | if there's anything worth keeping | 19:35 |
| jaremylee_ | no nothing | 19:35 |
| rpierce99_ | just delete it then | 19:35 |
| jaremylee_ | k | 19:35 |
| jaremylee_ | going back into windows mode then | 19:36 |
| jaremylee_ | k do i just start haret again | 19:38 |
| jaremylee_ | after deletion | 19:38 |
| ryannathans | yes | 19:38 |
| rpierce99_ | and remember not to touch anything during the first boot for about 5 or 10 minutes | 19:39 |
| jaremylee_ | k | 19:39 |
| ryannathans | what device? | 19:40 |
| rpierce99_ | rhod 400 on us cellular | 19:40 |
| jaremylee_ | yup | 19:40 |
| jaremylee_ | i hope this works | 19:41 |
| rpierce99_ | me too, because if not i have no idea what's wrong with your phone, i'd probably blame winmo | 19:41 |
| jaremylee_ | lol winmo sucks | 19:42 |
| jaremylee_ | like to erase it and have only android | 19:42 |
| ryannathans | one day | 19:42 |
| rpierce99_ | hmmm, windows 8 doesn't look anything like windows | 19:43 |
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| jaremy | i hate wifi too | 19:44 |
| jaremy | need to get sate internet out here | 19:44 |
| jaremy | satt i mean | 19:44 |
| jaremy | sat even wow | 19:45 |
| jaremy | so you in the US pierce | 19:46 |
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| rpierce99_ | yep | 19:49 |
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| jaremy | k now i have alittle sound out of the ear pierce full blast though | 19:50 |
| rpierce99_ | there should not be any apps force closing | 19:52 |
| jaremy | there is | 19:52 |
| jaremy | still have to do it | 19:52 |
| rpierce99_ | what apps | 19:52 |
| jaremy | yup like sound etc still says them sorry mess | 19:53 |
| ryannathans | windows 8 looks crap. | 19:53 |
| ryannathans | OS based on javascript and html5? yeah, sounds like a good idea- -.- | 19:53 |
| rpierce99_ | how'd that work out for palm | 19:54 |
| ryannathans | oh | 19:54 |
| ryannathans | is the only app crashing sound? | 19:54 |
| jaremy | no | 19:54 |
| rpierce99_ | and search or something | 19:54 |
| ryannathans | Have a look to see if your media folder is existant and still contains all original unmodified content | 19:55 |
| jaremy | now the phone is stuck with black screen and can hear static from speaker | 19:55 |
| jaremy | reset to win | 19:56 |
| jaremy | let me check | 19:56 |
| jaremy | i tthink if i had the money id just by an htc desire | 19:56 |
| jaremy | lol | 19:56 |
| jaremy | its all already donme | 19:57 |
| jaremy | done | 19:57 |
| jaremy | lol | 19:57 |
| jaremy | folder there looks like same stuff i have messed with it | 19:58 |
| jaremy | did i freeze again | 20:01 |
| rpierce99_ | no | 20:01 |
| jaremy | k | 20:01 |
| jaremy | lol | 20:01 |
| rpierce99_ | i have no idea where ryannathans was going with that line of questioning | 20:01 |
| jaremy | i just checked it | 20:02 |
| jaremy | lol | 20:02 |
| jaremy | you all know more than me | 20:02 |
| rpierce99_ | whats up with your winmo, is it stock or are you running a different rom | 20:02 |
| jaremy | stock | 20:03 |
| jaremy | i guess | 20:03 |
| jaremy | phone came outta box from us cell | 20:03 |
| jaremy | i didnt change anything | 20:03 |
| rpierce99_ | anyone remember the app that pulls logcats? | 20:04 |
| ryannathans | one does that? | 20:04 |
| manekineko | OSMonitor | 20:05 |
| jaremy | pierce give me the link for build again ill try that one last time | 20:05 |
| rpierce99_ | if you're going to do that, start completely fresh, delete everything on the card, format the card with the hp tool, and redo the install | 20:06 |
| rpierce99_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 20:06 |
| jaremy | k | 20:06 |
| hyc | anyone have any suggestions re: USB port getting loose over time? | 20:07 |
| rpierce99_ | the link and instructions for formatting are in the troubleshooting section of the first post | 20:07 |
| hyc | I've got really shaky connections now... | 20:07 |
| rpierce99_ | stop sticking things in ports they don't belong in :P | 20:07 |
| hyc | :P | 20:07 |
| jaremy | ty pierce | 20:08 |
| jaremy | on the two ts cal files | 20:08 |
| jaremy | do i need the top one or bottom one | 20:08 |
| rpierce99_ | like i said last night, always remember you have a rhod | 20:08 |
| jaremy | k | 20:08 |
| jaremy | i get it the blac ts file is for blackstone | 20:09 |
| jaremy | im guessing | 20:10 |
| jaremy | i ll be back in a bit | 20:10 |
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| rpierce99_ | that IS what it says in t he section about calibration | 20:13 |
| rpierce99_ | arrrghhh: ever heard of an issue with your build where sound settings crashes and you don't get any audio | 20:13 |
| rpierce99_ | he's formatting and reinstalling everything now | 20:14 |
| arrrghhh | no | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | reboot didn't fix it? | 20:15 |
| arrrghhh | if that did somehow implode, i figure that a reboot would fix it. | 20:16 |
| rpierce99_ | well the only time I told him to reboot was to delete data.img, and it stayed through that, but he may have rebooted it on his own | 20:16 |
| arrrghhh | weird. never heard of that. | 20:17 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah me either, that's why he's starting over | 20:17 |
| rpierce99_ | he started with mrpippys build | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol how old is that | 20:17 |
| rpierce99_ | or mrpippys collection of links | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | there's nothing left over...? | 20:17 |
| rpierce99_ | 1 year since it's last update | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | if he's mixing & matching... | 20:17 |
| rpierce99_ | we checked kernel and system image versions, they were yours for sure | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | RHOD didn't have sound 1 year ago. | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm, alrighty. | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | never heard of that with FRX06. | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | or... really ever since I got mah RHOD :P | 20:18 |
| rpierce99_ | i really need to figure out what's holding a wake lock on my phone, it's pissing me off having like 3 hours of battery life | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | usually is an app | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | if it's not GPS... | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | i was thinking about that recently | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | what else kills sleep at this point? | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | other than shitty apps | 20:23 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah i uninstalled the apps that i thought would be most likely | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | or GPS | 20:23 |
| rpierce99_ | in dmesg all i could find were SMD_DS wakelocks | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if shitty apps can be considered 'blockers' on a no sleep bug. | 20:24 |
| rpierce99_ | i don't even know what that is | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | RIL crap | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | blame hyc | 20:24 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:24 |
| hyc | :P | 20:24 |
| hyc | active data connection | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol he even wants the blame! | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:24 |
| rpierce99_ | so an app | 20:24 |
| rpierce99_ | using the webs | 20:24 |
| hyc | yeah, something is talking | 20:24 |
| hyc | which is why I use droidwall... | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i saw that comin | 20:24 |
| hyc | ;) | 20:25 |
| rpierce99_ | so did I | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should check out droidwall | 20:25 |
| rpierce99_ | I figure the way i use firewalls i would just allow everything anyways | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 20:25 |
| rpierce99_ | except maybe angry birds, not having ads would be sweet | 20:25 |
| hyc | there ya go | 20:25 |
| rpierce99_ | that one was for you arrrghhh | 20:25 |
| * arrrghhh cringes | 20:25 | |
| hyc | turn off network access, no ads | 20:25 |
| manekineko | hmm I thought I was the only one with like 3 hours of battery life these days | 20:26 |
| hyc | I only have a handful of apps that have net enabled. plus the android services that have to have it | 20:26 |
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| manekineko | pretty frustrating new development, I've been just blaming both of my batteries losing a cell simultaneously | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | 3 hours seems wrong | 20:27 |
| hyc | that seems pretty unlikely | 20:27 |
| hyc | I still get 16 hours or so | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:27 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah it's definitely awake more than it should be, it is orange more than it is green or flashing green when sleeping | 20:27 |
| manekineko | I would say mine is now orange about 25% of the time while sleeping | 20:27 |
| hyc | yeah, that also means some app running | 20:27 |
| manekineko | is there an app for debugging app wakelocks? | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:28 |
| arrrghhh | logcat | 20:28 |
| hyc | all I know is watching kmsg | 20:28 |
| hyc | it tells what wakelocks are active at sleep time | 20:28 |
| rpierce99_ | logcat doesn't even have apps that are wakelocking afaik | 20:28 |
| rpierce99_ | i tried that | 20:28 |
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| arrrghhh | yea dmesg would show wakelocks, sorry. | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | logcat would be for debugging apps that autostart. | 20:29 |
| manekineko | hmm someone should really make that, seems like a surefire popular app with the hacker types | 20:29 |
| rpierce99_ | but if it's apps it's just SMD_DS | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | i thought userland wakelock was PowerManagerService | 20:29 |
| rpierce99_ | i didn't have any of those in my logcat | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps that's more than just 'userland' | 20:30 |
| arrrghhh | i always used to see those when i was debugging wakelocks. | 20:30 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah when i was researching this the other day, the way an app gets a wakelock through the api is through an instance of the powermanagerservice | 20:30 |
| rpierce99_ | but maybe an app can request data without explicitly waking | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | so that seems consistent | 20:31 |
| jaremy | pierce quick format or allow compression | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea and leave the data/SMD cahnnel open | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | jaremy, neither | 20:31 |
| jaremy | k | 20:31 |
| rpierce99_ | jaremy: as the walkthrough says, full format, fat32 | 20:31 |
| hyc | eh? quick format is fine | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | shhh | 20:32 |
| rpierce99_ | usually | 20:32 |
| rpierce99_ | never know | 20:32 |
| hyc | full format will just waste a write cycle for the SD card | 20:32 |
| jaremy | i am reading it but i have never formatted and sdcard lol | 20:32 |
| manekineko | I dunno, seems like there have been a shockingly large number of problems resolved by full hp tool format | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:32 |
| hyc | very weird... | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno what's up with the built-in winmo/windows utility | 20:32 |
| jaremy | k doing full | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps a quick format with the HP Tool would work also | 20:32 |
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| jaremy | make up my mind plz lol | 20:33 |
| rpierce99_ | manekineko: any apps you installed recently that you would suspect? | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | jaremy, just do a full format... | 20:33 |
| jaremy | k | 20:33 |
| hyc | rpierce99: do a ps and see what's running | 20:33 |
| manekineko | hmm LauncherPro, but that's popular enough that if that were the culprit I think I would have heard of it | 20:33 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah and i don't have that | 20:33 |
| manekineko | Amazon App Store, finally broke down and installed it, and it does things in the background | 20:34 |
| manekineko | Google Reader feed syncing | 20:34 |
| rpierce99_ | i also use amzn, but so does arrrghhh | 20:34 |
| manekineko | upgrading Fancy Widget to Pro | 20:34 |
| hyc | hm I haven't tried amazon app store yet | 20:34 |
| manekineko | possibly MultiTasking Pro but I installed that a little while ago now | 20:34 |
| manekineko | (love that app should really be built in) | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, it's only good if you're a whore for free apps... most of 'em aren't worth it. | 20:35 |
| rpierce99_ | i just use it for the free app every day | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | a few have been. | 20:35 |
| manekineko | yeah, I just use it for the free apps | 20:35 |
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| rpierce99_ | the last 2 days have been neat games but they don't work on our phone | 20:35 |
| hyc | oh well | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea i figure eventually i'll get a newer android device. | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | so if the games don't work now, i'll have 'em for when i do get a real android device... | 20:36 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah i've been hoarding them for that as well | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | hoarding | 20:36 |
| manekineko | heh yeah, same | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | i like that you don't even have to install the app | 20:36 |
| manekineko | yeah I've been getting the apps and not installing them for a while | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | you can grab it for free, and not even use the silly thing. it'll just keep it. | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | i wish the stupid $0.00 emails would stop tho. | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps there's some preference i haven't found.. | 20:37 |
| hyc | lol | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, it sends me an email every time i 'purchase' an app from the store... | 20:37 |
| manekineko | turns out there was no need for the Blackstone to have its own driver for its soft buttons | 20:38 |
| manekineko | Android seems to have built-in support for soft buttons that just involves putting a file in a certain place | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:38 |
| jaremy | so theres no way to get rid of the windows and just use android | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | jaremy, there is, but it's not stable. | 20:38 |
| rpierce99_ | so in ps the only things that i would think could be it, maps:NetworkLocationService maps:LocationFreindService, the google music app, new one, hm, odd why is the scbs daemon running | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | lots of work left to be done on NAND | 20:38 |
| jaremy | ah k | 20:38 |
| rpierce99_ | hyc you disabled scbs -d right? | 20:40 |
| jaremy | i love you can use stylus cause my fingers to big for the onscreen keyboard of the dersire | 20:40 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:40 |
| rpierce99_ | hm, i never started it but it is running | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | i love having a physical keyboard. | 20:40 |
| hyc | weird. it's definitely disabled in init.rc | 20:41 |
| jaremy | i like the htc pro touch 2 it is perfect phone when android is added | 20:41 |
| rpierce99_ | should "stop scbs" kill it? | 20:41 |
| manekineko | I like it too, but perfect may be a strong word | 20:41 |
| jaremy | for me i mean | 20:41 |
| hyc | eh, it ought to, but it usually doesn't right away | 20:41 |
| manekineko | for me, it's perfect minus a capactive screen, a fast CPU with lotsa memory, a high end display, compass, and NFC | 20:42 |
| hyc | give it a couple seconds and check again, might need to kill -1 it | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, lol | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'd be happy with a faster CPU and some moar RAM. | 20:42 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:42 |
| rpierce99_ | i get cannot kill pid 126: Operation not permitted | 20:42 |
| hyc | su | 20:42 |
| rpierce99_ | doh | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | you must be super to do it | 20:42 |
| manekineko | hmm that's odd, I seem to have scbs running as well | 20:43 |
| manekineko | and I'm on vanilla hyc | 20:43 |
| rpierce99_ | hm, something in common | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | that has scbs doesn't it? | 20:43 |
| manekineko | yeah but not in init | 20:43 |
| rpierce99_ | i can't kill it | 20:43 |
| hyc | I wonder if it got enabled by default somehow | 20:43 |
| hyc | weird | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | lemme look if it's running on mein | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | mein phone! | 20:44 |
| manekineko | it seemed like it had a lot of potential once its quirks were worked out, it's a shame he seemed to have stopped developing it | 20:44 |
| rpierce99_ | killall scbs did the trick | 20:44 |
| manekineko | shows up on mine under ps as /bin/scbs -d -co /sdcard/scbs.conf | 20:44 |
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| hyc | grep scbs /init /init.rc | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | same | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | it's running on mein | 20:45 |
| manekineko | ah | 20:45 |
| manekineko | grep scbs /init /init.rc | 20:45 |
| manekineko | /init.rc:service scbs /bin/scbs_start -d -co /sdcard/scbs.conf | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, that returns "init.rc:service scbs" yadda yadda like manekineko's | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:46 |
| hyc | it should be oneshot / disabled in there | 20:46 |
| rpierce99_ | i seem to still have a lot of orange though | 20:46 |
| manekineko | hmm only oneshot in mine | 20:46 |
| manekineko | not oneshot disabled | 20:46 |
| manekineko | orange? | 20:46 |
| rpierce99_ | awake | 20:46 |
| manekineko | oh right | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:47 |
| manekineko | fast cable connect/disconnect seems to have gone away on mine recently | 20:47 |
| manekineko | have you guys noticed this? | 20:47 |
| rpierce99_ | haha hyc i love that your new pppd line has like 1000 parameters | 20:47 |
| manekineko | distinct lag now on those icons appearing and disappearing | 20:47 |
| hyc | yeah, fast usb had to be disabled | 20:47 |
| hyc | the interrupt was causing SoD | 20:47 |
| manekineko | ah ok | 20:48 |
| manekineko | hmm it may be a coincidence, but this guy is sleeping better than I've seen in a while | 20:48 |
| manekineko | orange down to maybe 10% | 20:48 |
| manekineko | guess I'll let it sleep for a while and see if my battery is down to 70 in an hour | 20:49 |
| hyc | gah. the "disabled" is missing from my git copy | 20:49 |
| jaremy | i'll be glad just to get sound when the download is done hopefully lol | 20:50 |
| rpierce99_ | you going to remember how to install it properly? | 20:51 |
| jaremy | yes sir | 20:51 |
| manekineko | things to remember on how to install it properly: | 20:51 |
| manekineko | 1) read the guide in the first post | 20:51 |
| manekineko | 2) there is no 2 | 20:51 |
| jaremy | i made mistake of not reading it last time i have this time | 20:52 |
| hyc | well that explains that anyway... | 20:52 |
| rpierce99_ | hopefully that helps sleepytime | 20:52 |
| jaremy | and pierce helped me alot | 20:52 |
| hyc | I hate having to repackage just for stupid little glitches | 20:52 |
| manekineko | so what exciting projects are you moving on to hyc? | 20:52 |
| hyc | exciting, not so much | 20:52 |
| hyc | I'm enhancing multimaster replication in OpenLDAP | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 20:53 |
| hyc | a project that I actually would rather not waste my time on, we already have MMR and I don't feel like enhancing it. :P | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 20:53 |
| rpierce99_ | no software projects bore me more than taking something that works and spending a ton of time making it a little better | 20:53 |
| rpierce99_ | love making new stuff though | 20:53 |
| hyc | yeah, totally | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea i think that's why the hd2 petered out | 20:54 |
| rpierce99_ | do want http://www.novelquest.com/emperor_200.html | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | do...what? | 20:55 |
| hyc | lol | 20:56 |
| hyc | great, if you want to turn into a vegetable | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:56 |
| rpierce99_ | reminds me of Wall-E | 20:56 |
| manekineko | dang, there's something out there that will not blend | 20:56 |
| rpierce99_ | blendtec failed? | 20:56 |
| manekineko | yeah, on a rugged phone | 20:57 |
| manekineko | it only mostly blended | 20:57 |
| manekineko | it's on Engadget | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | i love will it blend | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | the iPad was the best IMHO. he had to snap it in half over his leg before cramming it into the blender. awesome. | 20:58 |
| manekineko | hah just looked it up, that's pretty good | 21:01 |
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| rpierce99_ | hm, i don't think that actually turned on | 21:01 |
| manekineko | it's pretty intact however | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | they claime it was still functional | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | but don't prove it... | 21:01 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah engadget claims it still worked | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | claim* | 21:01 |
| rpierce99_ | i think they took that ringing at the end literally | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | i hope not, cuz that was cheese | 21:01 |
| rpierce99_ | what do you expect from engadget | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | true | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | why does windows 8 look like windows phone 7 | 21:03 |
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| rpierce99_ | because microsoft is on a path to complete and utter failure | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol seriously. | 21:04 |
| jaremy | i use xp i like it the most | 21:04 |
| manekineko | well, the old Win7 style was definitely going nowhere on tablets | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, true | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | so that UI is great for tablets | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | but they're talking about this being THE UI... | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | it seems | 21:05 |
| rpierce99_ | supposedly it like switches to desktop mode for some apps | 21:05 |
| manekineko | wait really? | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:05 |
| manekineko | I thought this was an alternative interface like Win Media Center | 21:05 |
| rpierce99_ | they are catering to touch pcs | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea i just got to that part of the video | 21:05 |
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| jaremy | wow my wifi on comp is so slow tonight | 21:10 |
| jaremy | got quiet in here all of a sudden | 21:12 |
| manekineko | watching the Win8 video | 21:12 |
| jaremy | ahh | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea it locked up my laptop | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | i figured it was a sign. | 21:12 |
| manekineko | lol | 21:12 |
| jaremy | lol i like my old xp | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | honestly tho this laptop blows. i really need a new one. | 21:12 |
| rpierce99_ | yeah even the windows 8 videos are crash-prone | 21:12 |
| manekineko | heh I'm rather partial to 7 over xp | 21:13 |
| rpierce99_ | arrrghhh: mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac mac | 21:13 |
| jaremy | i had a dell xps and i really like it | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:13 |
| stinebd | i have this theory | 21:13 |
| stinebd | that apple is a huge coverup | 21:13 |
| rpierce99_ | i actually do really like mac os for a laptop OS | 21:13 |
| rpierce99_ | and i like windows 7 on my desktop | 21:13 |
| stinebd | they're the real-world encom and steve jobs is clu and he escaped from the grid | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i like kubuntu on my... well i only really use two machines anymore. | 21:14 |
| manekineko | heh | 21:14 |
| jaremy | i hated vista | 21:14 |
| manekineko | who doesn't | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | vista was a public beta | 21:15 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:15 |
| manekineko | I never really liked the idea of a UI overlay like Media Center, and they seem to have really taken the idea and run with it for 8 | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | that you had to pay for, if you were a fool enough to buy it. | 21:15 |
| rpierce99_ | vista is the ME of the new.... millennium | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 21:15 |
| manekineko | though I suppose if they really make the touch UI a first class citizen along with the classic Windows UI, I might be able to change my mind on that | 21:15 |
| rpierce99_ | i'm not poking my desktop monitor any time soon | 21:16 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:16 |
| stinebd | first class citizen, wtf does that mean | 21:16 |
| manekineko | seeing the video was the first time I thought maybe my future tablet shouldn't run Android | 21:16 |
| stinebd | you want it to be fat and hold a lot of oil stock? | 21:16 |
| manekineko | it means being able to actually do everything a reasonably competent user might want to do from inside of it | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:17 |
| stinebd | that's not what that means at all | 21:17 |
| stinebd | you're nuts | 21:17 |
| manekineko | I wish someone would take the Linux core and make an operating system that wasn't inscrutable for the common man | 21:17 |
| manekineko | Ubuntu is definitely no OS X still | 21:17 |
| stinebd | if the common man refuses to learn, it's an impossible task | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea linux will never be for 'the common man' | 21:18 |
| manekineko | *desktop operating system I mean | 21:18 |
| stinebd | mac os being friendlier to dipshits is a fallacy | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | unless it's setup like an embedded system | 21:18 |
| manekineko | Android does a fairly good job on it | 21:18 |
| jaremy | hell windows changes so fast once you finally get it half learned they change the darn thing again | 21:19 |
| stinebd | android has a learning curve too | 21:19 |
| stinebd | what mac os and android do is entice the users with pretty transitions and ooh shiny | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | jaremy, this is technology... | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | all tech is like that. | 21:19 |
| jaremy | i know | 21:19 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's cisco's motto for chrissake | 21:19 |
| stinebd | cisco's motto is the human network | 21:20 |
| jaremy | computers used to be 10 yrs out of date when they hit the market wonder how far the are now back | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | keep it complex, make sure engineers make $$$ | 21:20 |
| manekineko | well, pretty transitions as well as not making a user learn what mounting an SD card means | 21:20 |
| jaremy | same way with cars | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | oh manekineko you'll figure out what that means someday. | 21:20 |
| stinebd | doubtful | 21:20 |
| stinebd | we're all sitting here talking about operating systems on #xdandroid | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | it is mighty ironic. | 21:21 |
| stinebd | none of us is getting any action | 21:21 |
| manekineko | hah | 21:21 |
| jaremy | just about have to take em to a computer tech to fix them lol | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | i figured that's what you first popped in for stinebd | 21:21 |
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| jaremy | wish it would quit storming here had enough of rain | 21:24 |
| stinebd | where? nevada? | 21:25 |
| jaremy | Missouri | 21:25 |
| stinebd | does it rain in nevada? | 21:25 |
| jaremy | too many tornados this year already too | 21:25 |
| jaremy | monsoon season prob | 21:25 |
| jaremy | like | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | misery | 21:26 |
| stinebd | massachusetts had some doozies today | 21:26 |
| jaremy | az | 21:26 |
| jaremy | yeah missouri sucks | 21:26 |
| jaremy | i hate it here | 21:26 |
| jaremy | they just got dsl out here in country i miss cable | 21:26 |
| stinebd | i hate the country in general | 21:26 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:27 |
| stinebd | my dream is to work for ntt in tokyo | 21:27 |
| stinebd | and for the earthquakes to magically disappear | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | good luck with that last one | 21:27 |
| jaremy | <------ not going anywhere near japan its gonna fall into ocean soon | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | it is an island | 21:28 |
| manekineko | Japan's a fun place | 21:28 |
| jaremy | under ocean | 21:28 |
| manekineko | despite the earthquakes and radiation | 21:28 |
| jaremy | like the lost city | 21:28 |
| stinebd | i installed a geiger counter app on my phone for the trip | 21:28 |
| stinebd | it was either fake or i'm screwed | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 21:28 |
| manekineko | haha | 21:28 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:29 |
| jaremy | just goto red cross they will give you one | 21:29 |
| jaremy | a pen one | 21:29 |
| hyc | arrrghhh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14351245#post14351245 because CWM users are so helpless they got nowhere else got get help | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | well F that | 21:31 |
| hyc | ;) just sayin... | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | thanks? | 21:32 |
| hyc | like I said, if I could delete garbage posts on my own threads.... | 21:32 |
| jaremy | make sure you take your eppy pin with you stinebd | 21:32 |
| stinebd | i don't have a peanut allergy | 21:32 |
| stinebd | i have an ionizing radiation allergy | 21:33 |
| jaremy | eppy in the heart is for that too | 21:33 |
| stinebd | i truly don't think so | 21:33 |
| jaremy | your skin will fry but lol you will be alive | 21:33 |
| jaremy | sorry | 21:34 |
| jaremy | lol | 21:34 |
| hyc | iodine pills? | 21:34 |
| stinebd | i need some of those iodine tablets | 21:34 |
| jaremy | in one of those moods | 21:34 |
| stinebd | or a buttload of iodized salt | 21:34 |
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| stinebd | pretty sure those tablets are a before thing too | 21:35 |
| stinebd | not like the morning after pill where you wake up in a ruptured nuclear plant | 21:35 |
| jaremy | better just goto a surplus store and get mop gear | 21:35 |
| hyc | yeah, the iodine has to get to your thyroid gland before the thorium does | 21:35 |
| stinebd | i'll just have them take the thyroid out | 21:36 |
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| jaremy | lol they might eat it afterwards | 21:37 |
| jaremy | have there been anymore earthquakes over the late | 21:37 |
| jaremy | there | 21:37 |
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| arrrghhh | so hyc, do you think the keyboard repeat letter bug is fixed? | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't had it since, but i certainly haven't tested it thoroughly. | 21:40 |
| hyc | yes and no | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:41 |
| hyc | it doesn't get stuck any more | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | still cuts out? | 21:41 |
| hyc | but i've occassionally had it start auto-repeating very soon | 21:41 |
| hyc | so I think just the auto-repeat params need tweaking | 21:41 |
| hyc | also, independent of that patch, kbd behavior is still funky. | 21:42 |
| hyc | shift/alt don't always work as documented. | 21:42 |
| hyc | If I'm in Portrait mode and start Connectbot, they don't work. | 21:42 |
| hyc | if I'm in Landscape mode when I start, they usually work. | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 21:43 |
| hyc | but in fact, if you keep them held down while pressing another key, they work. So, just like the G1 kbd. | 21:43 |
| hyc | yeah, very weird. | 21:43 |
| hyc | dunno if that's kernel or userland screwing up. | 21:43 |
| hyc | probably userland | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | it's always userland | 21:44 |
| hyc | I dunno where that shift mode is controlled anyway, I'm perfectly fine with hold-shift-down if it's always gonna work that way | 21:44 |
| hyc | but in the press-and-release mode, it also gets mucked up by the autorepeat | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | so stinebd is there anything i can do to help with the mountain of merge requests? | 21:46 |
| hyc | of course then you don't need a shift LED - you know you're holding down the shift key already... | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | not sure i can afford more hookers tho. | 21:46 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: yes. wire me $5 million so i can quit my job and merge them | 21:47 |
| hyc | damn, who knew android maintenance was so expensive.... | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | damn, you got a nasty hooker habit. | 21:47 |
| hyc | lol | 21:47 |
| stinebd | it's the coke | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | gettin all those hookers coke would get pricey... | 21:48 |
| stinebd | my dealer keeps suggesting pepsi but i like the coke packaging better | 21:48 |
| jaremy | mt. dewwwwwwwwwwww | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | do the shrew | 21:48 |
| jaremy | i think my blood has been replaced by mt. dew | 21:49 |
| stinebd | i'm a patient of the good dr. pepper | 21:52 |
| stinebd | and thankfully it was one of two sodas/pops stocked in the vending machine near my place in tokyo | 21:53 |
| jaremy | lol i like the cherry vanilla dp | 21:53 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, is the wiki on XDAndroid on building Android up to date or are there any gotchas I should know? | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | should be good | 21:57 |
| manekineko | cool | 21:57 |
| hyc | we oughta tweak the froyo build env to allow using java 1.6 | 21:57 |
| hyc | having both 5 and 6 installed kinda sucks | 21:57 |
| jaremy | darn thing finally downloaded | 22:00 |
| jaremy | so far so good | 22:02 |
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| jaremy | pierce it is easy after you've done it once | 22:04 |
| jaremy | like you said | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:04 |
| stinebd | twss? | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | giggity | 22:05 |
| jaremy | will find out in 5 more mins if sound is working | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | credit score. what a silly number. | 22:11 |
| stinebd | mine is 3 | 22:11 |
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| arrrghhh | that's pretty good | 22:13 |
| jaremy | k speaker phone works through the ear piece but i can hear them but they cant hear me | 22:13 |
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| arrrghhh | or so i hear | 22:13 |
| jaremy | and still doesnt ring | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | jaremy, can you set ringtones? | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | if it's set to silent | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | or vibe only | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 22:14 |
| hyc | do they play when you select them? | 22:14 |
| jaremy | let me check | 22:14 |
| jaremy | got a warning says something about leaacy in use | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 22:17 |
| jaremy | legacy | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | this is FRX06? | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | nothing old? | 22:18 |
| jaremy | yes | 22:18 |
| manekineko | like the warning pops up on screen? | 22:18 |
| jaremy | just a mnin | 22:18 |
| jaremy | ill tell you what the warning is | 22:18 |
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| arrrghhh | i've never heard of that. | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i've only had force closes and uhhhh | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea don't think anything else pops up. other than accept dialogs | 22:19 |
| jaremy | activity android system ( in application settings) is not responding | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | force close. | 22:20 |
| manekineko | you did hit wait if it was an option right? | 22:20 |
| jaremy | no sounds | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | alright, we were all just kidding that android has sound. | 22:21 |
| jaremy | the mr pippy crap had me download crap to my window os for updates it said | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | need to go Apple if you want that fancy crap. | 22:21 |
| manekineko | lol | 22:21 |
| manekineko | if you hit wait when the popup came up, and not force close, and sound is still not working | 22:22 |
| manekineko | I think you must have a hardware or firmware problem | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | brainware | 22:22 |
| manekineko | no one else has ever had this problem that I've ever heard of | 22:22 |
| manekineko | you didn't do anything weird with your WinMo did you? | 22:22 |
| manekineko | flash any weird things to ORM? | 22:22 |
| manekineko | ROM | 22:22 |
| jaremy | prob that crap it had me download for | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | I like ORM better | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | it sounds like DRM, but open. | 22:22 |
| manekineko | heh | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, your build is magic. my phone has actually been waking properly for phone calls. | 22:24 |
| jaremy | so should i take out the sd and return phone to factory settings and try it | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | just return the phone to the factory | 22:24 |
| manekineko | yeah, I haven't been having the wake problems on phone calls since I switched to his and stuck it on partitions | 22:24 |
| jaremy | k | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still looped | 22:24 |
| manekineko | jaremy, you running any custom ROM or ever have? | 22:24 |
| manekineko | so I guess it's just hyc's badass build | 22:24 |
| hyc | bwahahahahaaa | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | don't make his head too big. | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:25 |
| hyc | too late | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:25 |
| manekineko | well his software does run on every computer in the world hahaha | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | i guess his big head is justified... now why i have a big head, no body | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | will ever know | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | crap | 22:26 |
| manekineko | lol | 22:26 |
| manekineko | the build is kinda embarassingly better than FRX06 at this point | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:28 |
| manekineko | it seems like malpractice directing newbies to install FRX | 22:28 |
| manekineko | haha | 22:28 |
| hyc | yeah, it's actually usable :P | 22:28 |
| rpierce99_ | if it didn't have the sound/bt tweaks it'd be perfect for me, i have problems with audio | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | zing! | 22:28 |
| manekineko | having working BT is a pretty big bullet point though | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | what issues besides speakerphone mic? | 22:29 |
| jaremy | so will reseting to fact erase all contacts pics and etc | 22:29 |
| hyc | you can replace the libaudio with FRX06 | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have audio issues other than that | 22:29 |
| rpierce99_ | any incoming call doesn't work until i toggle spkr | 22:29 |
| manekineko | jaremy, yep | 22:29 |
| manekineko | hmm, yeah, I encountered that problem once or twice too | 22:29 |
| rpierce99_ | mic audio i mean | 22:29 |
| jaremy | k ill grab another sdcard quick then | 22:29 |
| rpierce99_ | what kind of sd card are you using jaremy | 22:30 |
| manekineko | other sdcard? | 22:30 |
| jaremy | sorry tired | 22:30 |
| jaremy | load it to comp | 22:30 |
| hyc | just copied a bunch of apps from my G1. Lightsaber works. :D | 22:30 |
| manekineko | all the essentials | 22:31 |
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| arrrghhh | no joke, there's a lightsaber app? lol | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | i guess that doesn't surprise me | 22:31 |
| hyc | yeah, it's cute | 22:35 |
| hyc | hmm, glow hockey is Reaallly Reaalllllyy slow | 22:35 |
| manekineko | hmm Ubuntu Unity doesn't seem to work in my new VirtualBox instance | 22:37 |
| manekineko | I think I may have dodged a bullet but I was kinda curious about what the fuss was | 22:37 |
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| hyc | google sky map works. even without a compass, puzzling. | 22:38 |
| manekineko | yep, that one has always worked | 22:39 |
| manekineko | no Google Earth though | 22:39 |
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| jaremylee | in processof returning to factory mode | 22:40 |
| manekineko | you never did say if you installed any 3rd party ROMs or anything did you | 22:40 |
| jaremylee | not that i know of | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | it's a pretty intentional thing | 22:41 |
| jaremylee | then no i didnt | 22:42 |
| jaremylee | sorry tired | 22:42 |
| jaremylee | this has been a darn thorn in my side for two days | 22:42 |
| manekineko | I assume everything works fine in WinMo? | 22:43 |
| jaremylee | yup | 22:43 |
| jaremylee | k sound is working on ringers | 22:46 |
| manekineko | what'd you change? | 22:47 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | factory reset? | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | people need to realize their limitations. some people should not be running this... | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | i helped out one of those people the other day. haven't seen 'em back so i guess that's a good sign. | 22:52 |
| manekineko | limitation: not willing to read instructions | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | eh some people can read it all day | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | and still not process one word of it. | 22:53 |
| manekineko | limitation: unable to follow precise instructions | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea i try to be thorough, but not confusingly so. | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i err on the side of confusingly so. | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | if computers were easy i wouldn't have a job. | 22:54 |
| manekineko | hah | 22:55 |
| stinebd | that's why i wrote the wiki stuff in paragraphs and not lists of steps | 22:59 |
| stinebd | people who can't follow directions see that, black out and wake up in the gutter somewhere | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | the paragraphs can be more confusing, as too much information tends to put people in comas as well. | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | although my post could be more concise. | 23:01 |
| manekineko | hah | 23:01 |
| stinebd | i WANT them to be confusing | 23:01 |
| stinebd | hyc and manekineko can figure it out just fine | 23:02 |
| stinebd | tiad8 not so much | 23:02 |
| stinebd | so we're all good | 23:02 |
| manekineko | lmao | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 23:02 |
| manekineko | hmm 2.5 hours later, and my phone is at 87% battery, maybe it was scbs somehow killing my battery | 23:11 |
| manekineko | though WisTilt2 has it running on like 15 phones without issue as I understand it | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | running on mine | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | drain isn't significantly more | 23:13 |
| manekineko | could be a coincidence that my battery life has improved, it had only drained out in 3-4 hours a few times recently | 23:14 |
| manekineko | so I'm not sure if it always does it or what | 23:14 |
| hyc | well, I've had experience building android for G1... | 23:28 |
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