Tuesday, 2011-05-24

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ryannathansIf FN LED is not working should I be filing a bug report?01:57
stinebdany japanese people here?01:58
stinebdi was just doing a tv interview and i didn't think to ask which network the show was affiliated with01:58
ryannathansshouldn't you be able to look up the name of the show?02:00
stinebdi can't read their crazy symbols02:01
stinebdall i know is the show has a white and red logo and starts with nippon02:01
stinebdand the guy interviewing me had a french accent02:02
stinebdanyway they said it'll air saturday so i'll be gone02:02
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ryannathansGot hid of that horrid scbs until it is worthy of use02:15
ryannathansrid*02:15
stinebdboy i'm glad jonpry isn't in here02:15
ryannathans;P02:15
ryannathansIs drains my battery so much faster and delays waking the device, until fixed, I don't believe it is worth it02:16
ryannathansNow here's something that makes no sense. I will be driving along and on my device google maps is open, with GPS enabled. The positioning is horrid, until I turn wifi on, so I continue driving along and somehow just having wifi on improves my location massively, not even connecting to any networks02:20
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Recnamoruenryannathans02:38
RecnamoruenIf you have wifi on google will take a look at the wifi networks around you especially if ur in a big city and will plot your location based off of what wireless networks are around you02:38
stinebdi highly doubt that would be helping in the case he described02:45
stinebdmore likely there's something wrong with our gps driver :P02:45
Recnamoruenlol02:46
RecnamoruenHmm, I don't know. All I know is my device when I'm driving is 100% accurate with just gps02:46
stinebdbe happy then02:46
stinebdi'm using my mother's phone on this trip and her gps is wonky when i'm walking02:47
RecnamoruenI am happy02:47
stinebdand that's a native device02:47
Recnamoruen:(02:48
RecnamoruenStill waiting for verizon to get a decent 4g phone so i can switch and get grandfathered in02:49
stinebdwell if they end up with the atrix, skip it02:49
Recnamoruenlol02:49
stinebdi'm glad i have something that can get me around, but the thing has been a thorn02:50
RecnamoruenHow are you liking japan?02:53
stinebdit's awesome02:53
stinebdi would very much like to live here02:53
Recnamoruenawesome02:54
stinebdmostly because i don't understand the news networks02:54
Recnamoruenlol02:54
stinebdbut i still assume they aren't like ours02:54
stinebdaccording to a japanese fellow i was talking to someone suicided on the tracks of the subway station in akihabara02:56
stinebdlast night02:56
Recnamoruen:|03:05
stinebdit's a fairly common thing in japan03:06
stinebdbut it usually happens more in places like kibukicho after a prostitute steals all your money03:06
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hycthe light sensor doesn't seem to be outputting any meaningful values03:16
hycis there some command that needs to be issued to enable it first?03:17
ryannathansI noticed it works half the time03:17
stinebdthe light sensor?03:19
stinebdthat's working by hardware03:19
hycit doesn't need to be specially enabled in any particular way?03:19
stinebdwis added some sysfs entry that we write to in liblights when we want to enable it03:20
stinebdand then the kernel does some register crap or something that lets microp (i think) take over the backlight control03:21
hycI see the autobl stuff03:22
hycset my display to autobright but sensor still hasn't changed03:22
hycmebbe the liblights call is being missed03:22
ryannathansIf it helps the auto backlight only works for me (usually) after a reboot03:23
ryannathansafter turning it on03:23
stinebdhyc: gingerbread?03:24
hycnope froyo03:24
stinebdok03:24
hycok, it writes to /dbgfs/micropklt_dbg/auto_backlight to toggle auto/manual03:24
hycaside from that, nothing that specifically addresses the sensor03:25
stinebdright03:26
stinebdwe never have to talk to the sensor03:26
stinebdmicrop does it all on its own03:26
hycok03:29
hycok going to try rebooting with it enabled03:31
hycnope. last boot it was always reading 0xff. now it's always zero.03:51
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hycyeah, it's no good. reading 0xffff now04:27
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ryannathanshow can we obtain the apk of something we downloaded from store?05:55
hyc it's usually cached in /sdcard/download06:01
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Faryaabhey guys07:10
Faryaabany nes on new updates of gingerbread and froyo07:11
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ryannathansSync the giy tree and you would know07:21
ryannathansgit*07:21
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stinebdno updates, i'm out of the country09:19
stinebdoh he's gone09:19
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hycwell, JB just confirmed that mic doesn't work with rhod speakerphone10:15
hycbut he said it appears to work fine on other non-Rhods10:15
hycI guess I should've opened up that audio routing test to other phone models10:16
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SkrzypHi all10:51
SkrzypCan you help me?10:51
SkrzypHow to flash any Android HD2 ROM without SDCard?10:52
emweSkrzyp: no idea. this channel is not about HD2.10:54
emwehyc: you around by chance?10:54
Skrzypemwe: But is about all Android on XDA forums...10:55
emweSkrzyp: no, it's about the XDAndroid distribution which has nothing to do with HD2. raph, diam, kovs, black, rhod and topa only.10:56
hyc"only"... as if 6 platforms weren't enough10:57
hyc:P10:57
emwelol10:59
emwenot counting whitestone, yet.10:59
emwenevermind about my question earlier. just had difficulties (ignorance) finding out how to pull a merge request on cmdline.11:00
hycah ok11:00
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unoxhi Buddies,13:51
unoxi want to ask if it is possibe to install xdandroid on my htc prophet.13:52
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emwehyc: so you got that printk patch going and wakes fine now?14:28
emwehyc: should note that i had no issue whatsoever with the initial scbs version and wakes on topa (.35)14:28
hycwakes are pretty good now, yes14:29
emweapart from always having to press/hold the pwr button a tad bit longer then just "click"14:29
hycthey can still take up to 5 seconds or so but that's now very rare14:29
emweso that printk patch is good to go you'd say?14:29
hycyes, works fine for me14:30
emwei hope we don't have to resort to such stuff with every kernel version.14:30
hycindeed14:30
emweperhaps they got that improved on newer kernels14:30
hycit would help if our kernel code wasn't so ridiculously chatty14:30
emweis there a ringbuffer or something for console devices we could increase?14:31
emweplz pardon my ignorance ^^14:31
hycwe really don't need to flood dmesg with every step of normal operation. logging should be fore extraordinary conditions.14:31
hycI don't know much about the ramconsole at all14:31
emwewe are not yet at the unextraordinary state imho ;)14:31
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hycI know we've already got something like 256KB or 512KB allocated for the kmsg buffer14:32
emweok14:32
hycwhich is, to me, incredible14:32
hycI don't even have it that large on my laptop with 4GB RAM ...14:32
emwei think our ramconsole is 128kb in size14:33
emweand then it wraps over. actually a tad bit before14:33
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emwehmpfs, are froyo libs from roots still bindmounted over /system/lib/?14:39
hyclooks like it14:41
hyctho they ought not to be14:41
hyc /system/lib/hw is still bindmounted14:42
emwecurrently trying to figure what keeps me rebooting14:42
emwejust trying out alex msm7k/gps fix14:42
emwe(fix for not relying on htw_hw)14:42
hycwhat did he fix?14:42
emweamss detection without htc_hw (.27)14:44
emwereading out gsm.version.baseband property14:44
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emwehyc: https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_libhardware_legacy/merge_requests/314:45
emwei just saw you also still had two open14:45
emwes/had/have14:45
emweah, now the gps init looks better14:47
emwegot fooled by rootfs libs. lets see if it still reboots14:47
toadlifeWell my issue with my microphone is definitely a hardware issue. The nuclear option is all I have now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/IMG_20110524_113047.jpg14:48
emwedisassembly horray!14:49
arrrghhhohgod14:51
toadlifeYeah. I reseated the cables. That's oretty much all that can be done aside from replacing parts.14:51
hycemwe: yeah I still have several merge requests outstanding14:54
hyctoadlife: pretty brave of you, with a new baby in the house14:54
hycbut while you're at it, take more closeup photos of all your parts14:55
toadlifeheh. The baby is really good.  Just eats, poops and sleeps.14:55
hycI still fantasize about popping in a rhod100 ffc14:56
emwetoadlife: your fourth now, right?14:56
toadlifeYeah. We're old pros at this.14:56
emweyeah hehe14:56
emwemy gf's doc just pointed at her biological clock today. haha.14:56
toadlifeYeah, I bet that clock keeps better time than our phones ATM.14:58
hyczzzinnggggggg14:59
toadlifehyc, why do you want pics of parts?\14:59
emweraph running stock .27 no minute off running since 24h14:59
emwe99% sleeping14:59
emwewifi only, though.14:59
hyctoadlife: I just said - I think about what effort it would take to transplant a rhod100's front camera module into a rhod21014:59
toadlifeAhh. missed that15:00
emwedunno what a frontcam would bring me.15:00
emwehave one in topa, never used.15:00
hycdo the drivers work for it on topa?15:02
toadlifeThat might be possible. With my wing I repalced the housing with a stock herald housing. The internals were pretty much the same,15:02
hycI think it would just be a novelty15:02
toadlifeI'll get a good pic of the system board front and back15:02
hycthe people who are so far away I'd like to videocall them, are also too far away to sustain a decent video connection15:02
emwehyc: oh, i can't tell. been testing out cam for one time only and it took a picture with regular cam. all that i know15:02
hycso, it's not something I've spent any serious thought on...15:03
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toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_113047.jpg15:13
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120413.jpg15:13
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120558.jpg15:13
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120613.jpg15:14
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120624.jpg15:14
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120632.jpg15:14
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120639.jpg15:14
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120658.jpg15:14
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120715.jpg15:14
hycawesome15:19
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toadlifeDoh! Booted it up and screen didn't come on. ;(15:37
toadlife*facepalm*15:38
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arrrghhhouch15:58
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has1hi  people16:07
has1is there a guide available with  step by step  instruction on getting  the latest  stable version of  xdandroid working  on  a htc  touch pro 2?16:07
has1i  cant  find one, the ones i do find   are  like a year old16:08
arrrghhhuhm16:08
arrrghhhmy thread16:08
emwelol16:09
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196216:09
arrrghhhwhere are you searching?16:09
arrrghhhi don't see how people can't find it.16:09
emwearrrghhh: remember me yesterday? ;)16:09
arrrghhhi'd like to remedy it tho16:09
arrrghhhemwe, yea but you're just a dumb dev16:09
* arrrghhh runs16:09
emwearrrghhh: that's not to far from truth :P16:09
arrrghhhhahaha16:09
has1i found some other thread  on the site16:11
has1it said  something about edit startup.txt and  so on  but didnt explain it for the noobs like  me16:11
has1can i use the  guide if  an older version is already installed on the  phone?16:13
arrrghhhi wouldn't recommend an older version16:14
arrrghhhat least, i won't support an older version.16:14
arrrghhhso can you tell me where you found that thread?16:14
arrrghhhor perhaps how...16:14
has1http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=2180dcbe13289bc4a88f3edc41d6cd84&t=90491816:17
has1what i mean  is, on  this  phone  currently there  is  an  older version installed16:17
has1i think16:17
arrrghhhohgod16:17
arrrghhhi thought those threads were all locked16:18
arrrghhhit is16:18
arrrghhhwtf dude16:18
arrrghhhwhy are you dragging up an ancient locked thread...16:18
has1can i use  the guid e you  just gave  me  to  install  the  newer  version?16:18
has1i didnt use that old  guide16:18
arrrghhheverything you need is in my thread.16:18
arrrghhhfollow the steps16:18
has1just got  a  phone  with a  really buggy version of  android16:18
has1dont  need to uninstall or something?16:18
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arrrghhhi would format the SD card with the HP Tool16:19
arrrghhhdetails... in the first post of my thread.16:19
has1ok  thanks16:19
has1and  whats rhod/thopa/blackstone?16:20
arrrghhhRHOD is Rhodium16:20
arrrghhhTOPA is Topaz16:20
arrrghhhBlackstone is... blackstone.16:20
arrrghhhthey're devices?16:20
has1i have a touch pro hd  216:21
has1touch pro  2*16:22
arrrghhhso16:22
arrrghhhwe support many, many devices.16:22
arrrghhhwe also support RAPH, DIAM and the X1.16:22
has1so  what  would  i need to  at the calibration step?16:24
arrrghhhuhm... what does it say to do?16:25
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has1the calibration  file  from the post ,  does  it also work  on  touch  pro 2?16:28
arrrghhh...16:31
arrrghhhjust download ts-calibration.zip.16:31
arrrghhhchrist.16:31
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has1:(16:33
has1thanks16:33
arrrghhhc'mon dude16:34
arrrghhhthat's in the TouchPro2 section of the forum16:34
arrrghhhAND I say it works with RHOD's.16:34
arrrghhhwhat more do you want?!?16:34
toadlifeYep. I nuked it.  Oh well.  Phone was next to unusable as it was.16:36
toadlifeI must have blown the board that connects to the screen.16:37
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arrrghhhaw16:41
arrrghhhthat sucks dude16:41
arrrghhhi'd be sad if my tp2 blew up, not sure what i would get16:42
arrrghhhi guess Sprint still sells the TP2, so I'd probably get another one :P16:42
arrrghhhi love that they still sell it for $199 on a 2yr.16:44
toadlifeYeah. They don't want people to buy it16:44
arrrghhhheh16:45
arrrghhhit's one of three int'l phones.16:45
arrrghhhthat and 2 bb's.16:45
toadlifeThe one from sprint that I like is 149.0016:46
toadlifeEpic 4g16:48
arrrghhhmeh16:49
arrrghhhsamsung.16:49
arrrghhhkbd kinda blows, and the device just feels... shitty.16:49
manekinekoyou can get an Epic 4G for free from Best Buy16:49
manekinekosorry to hear about your phone16:50
manekinekobut you shouldn't, you should get another TP216:50
toadlifeYeah. It's a bummer16:50
toadlifeNaw. The TP2 is old.16:50
arrrghhhhe can't get the epic16:50
manekinekowe need to keep up the population of users that know what's going on =P16:50
arrrghhhunless he jumps shipo16:50
arrrghhhshipo?16:50
arrrghhhhaha16:50
toadlifeSorry guys. :(16:50
manekinekoah not on Sprint?16:50
arrrghhhyou're tmo aren't you?16:50
arrrghhhtoadlife, ^^16:50
toadlifeI'm a T-Mo customer but am looking to jump ship to sprint16:51
arrrghhhheh16:51
toadlifeContacts ends in August16:51
manekinekohmm that's a while to last with a phone that has no screen16:51
toadlifeI have an old flip phone.16:51
arrrghhhheh16:51
toadlifeWe actually have two old dumb phones from t-mobile.16:52
toadlifeSo I jsut popped my SIM in and I'm up and running til I decide what to do16:52
toadlifeFor work I just need to be be able to get txt messagess16:52
arrrghhhthat is one nice thing16:52
arrrghhhabout GSM...16:52
arrrghhhswitching devices is cake.16:52
manekinekoyeah, I wish I was on a GSM carrier16:53
manekinekowell, other than the signal reception being terrible16:53
arrrghhhhahaha16:53
arrrghhhi'll never leave sprint.  so long as i have this deal, there's no reason for me to.16:53
manekinekoyeah, your deal is insanely good16:53
arrrghhhindeed.  no reason for me to look elsewhere.16:53
arrrghhhthe tmo reps always try to get me to do a heads-up comparison to sway me to their network.  they can't even begin to compete.16:54
manekinekoheh I can just imagine16:54
manekineko"so how much do you pay a month? and you get unlimited data? hmmm.......maybe T-Mobile isn't the best choice for you"16:54
arrrghhhlol16:54
arrrghhhbasically.16:55
arrrghhhah well, meeting time.16:55
manekinekotoadlife, how come you're planning on switching to Sprint?16:57
has1@arrrghhh,  which  startup.txt do i  use  for  touch  pro  2?16:58
manekinekohas1, depends on what model Touch Pro 2 you have16:58
toadlifeBecause of At&T buying T-mobile. T-Mobile doesn't offer 3g in my area (rural). Now that At&T is buying t-mobile, they have no incentive to expand their 3g network. At&t and t-mobile used differwent frequencies for 3g, which means t-mobile phones cannot get 3g on at&t towers.16:59
manekinekohas1, you should really read the FAQ arrrghhh linked you to, it's all right there: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq#How_can_I_tell_what_device_I_have.3F_RAPH.3F_RHOD.3F16:59
toadlifeAnd I'm not a big fan of At&T anyway,16:59
manekinekoyeah, though hopefully that acquisition doesn't go through17:00
manekinekoif you're just planning on signing up for a regular plan, you can do a little better by signing up for an employee plan which Sprint secretly lets everyone sign up for17:00
toadlifeHmmm. Really?17:00
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manekinekohttp://mcguireslaw.com/2008/07/16/psst-have-you-heard-about-everything-plus/17:02
manekinekothis blog is by a Sprint VP17:02
hycI signed a couple petitions to block the AT&T acquisition17:04
manekinekoI sure hope that doesn't go through17:04
hyclikewise17:04
has1its  working!17:07
manekinekocongrats17:07
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toadlifemanekineko , thanks fo th link :)17:42
toadlifemy ETF for t-mo is only $50 so I may pull the trigger early.  I don't think I can take using a four year old flip phone until August17:44
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EdLintoadlife yeah, I am eligable for converting my 1,500 minute plan (which I converted from a 500 minute plan) to T-Mobile's new unlimited-everything plan, and all I have to do is sign a new contract. With the prospect of becoming AT&T's customer, I don't think I want to do that. :)18:33
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arrrghhhi don't see how the gov't could allow a GSM monopoly in the US.  that seems dumb.19:42
stinebdthe government doesnt know what gsm is19:43
arrrghhhlol19:43
stinebdall they see is 3 cell providers19:43
arrrghhhtouche19:43
arrrghhhyou'd think someone would tell them tho... no?19:43
stinebdno19:43
arrrghhh:(19:43
stinebdthe carriers pay to have those guys killed before the call goes through19:43
arrrghhhlol19:44
arrrghhhso how's japan?19:44
stinebdnobody talks to me here19:44
stinebdi love it19:44
arrrghhhbwhahahaha19:44
arrrghhhyou guailo19:45
stinebdexcept for one of the news shows, which i'll be on some time saturday19:45
arrrghhhfor what?19:45
arrrghhhwhat horrible things have you done19:45
stinebdthey were interviewing gaijin across the street from sensoji19:45
arrrghhhnice19:46
stinebdalso i had to toss the law of the land at some new yorker taking pictures of people praying in there19:46
stinebdno respect19:46
arrrghhhno joke...19:46
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toadlifeWell it was nice working with you guys.  I'll be checking in from time to time to see how progress is going.21:52
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ryannathanswhat is this madness?  < toadlife> Well it was nice working with you guys.  I'll be checking in from time to time to see how progress is going.22:52
rpierce99he killed his TP222:52
ryannathanslooks like he killed it getting pics for hyc as far as I can tell ;P22:54
ryannathanswhat rhod do you have?22:54
rpierce9940022:54
ryannathansdoes it have a touch zoombar?22:54
rpierce99and no, it was taken apart already, hyc just asked for more pics22:55
rpierce99yes22:55
ryannathansfront cam?22:55
rpierce99no, thats on the 100 only afaik22:55
ryannathans0.o my rhod110 has front cam and it's nothing like the rhod10022:55
rpierce99ok, 100-series then22:56
ryannathansWould you think that the zoom bar is an extension of the touch screen beyond the visible screen or a separate touch pad, I tend to believe the second22:56
rpierce99i would think it's a separate component but could share internals, like sending the data on the same pipe as the touchscreen or something, but i have no idea22:58
ryannathanswhen I get the light right I can see a strip in there, under the lines and about the same height of those lines, if not a few mm bigger.23:00
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