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| ryannathans | If FN LED is not working should I be filing a bug report? | 01:57 | 
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| stinebd | any japanese people here? | 01:58 | 
| stinebd | i was just doing a tv interview and i didn't think to ask which network the show was affiliated with | 01:58 | 
| ryannathans | shouldn't you be able to look up the name of the show? | 02:00 | 
| stinebd | i can't read their crazy symbols | 02:01 | 
| stinebd | all i know is the show has a white and red logo and starts with nippon | 02:01 | 
| stinebd | and the guy interviewing me had a french accent | 02:02 | 
| stinebd | anyway they said it'll air saturday so i'll be gone | 02:02 | 
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| ryannathans | Got hid of that horrid scbs until it is worthy of use | 02:15 | 
| ryannathans | rid* | 02:15 | 
| stinebd | boy i'm glad jonpry isn't in here | 02:15 | 
| ryannathans | ;P | 02:15 | 
| ryannathans | Is drains my battery so much faster and delays waking the device, until fixed, I don't believe it is worth it | 02:16 | 
| ryannathans | Now here's something that makes no sense. I will be driving along and on my device google maps is open, with GPS enabled. The positioning is horrid, until I turn wifi on, so I continue driving along and somehow just having wifi on improves my location massively, not even connecting to any networks | 02:20 | 
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| Recnamoruen | ryannathans | 02:38 | 
| Recnamoruen | If you have wifi on google will take a look at the wifi networks around you especially if ur in a big city and will plot your location based off of what wireless networks are around you | 02:38 | 
| stinebd | i highly doubt that would be helping in the case he described | 02:45 | 
| stinebd | more likely there's something wrong with our gps driver :P | 02:45 | 
| Recnamoruen | lol | 02:46 | 
| Recnamoruen | Hmm, I don't know. All I know is my device when I'm driving is 100% accurate with just gps | 02:46 | 
| stinebd | be happy then | 02:46 | 
| stinebd | i'm using my mother's phone on this trip and her gps is wonky when i'm walking | 02:47 | 
| Recnamoruen | I am happy | 02:47 | 
| stinebd | and that's a native device | 02:47 | 
| Recnamoruen | :( | 02:48 | 
| Recnamoruen | Still waiting for verizon to get a decent 4g phone so i can switch and get grandfathered in | 02:49 | 
| stinebd | well if they end up with the atrix, skip it | 02:49 | 
| Recnamoruen | lol | 02:49 | 
| stinebd | i'm glad i have something that can get me around, but the thing has been a thorn | 02:50 | 
| Recnamoruen | How are you liking japan? | 02:53 | 
| stinebd | it's awesome | 02:53 | 
| stinebd | i would very much like to live here | 02:53 | 
| Recnamoruen | awesome | 02:54 | 
| stinebd | mostly because i don't understand the news networks | 02:54 | 
| Recnamoruen | lol | 02:54 | 
| stinebd | but i still assume they aren't like ours | 02:54 | 
| stinebd | according to a japanese fellow i was talking to someone suicided on the tracks of the subway station in akihabara | 02:56 | 
| stinebd | last night | 02:56 | 
| Recnamoruen | :| | 03:05 | 
| stinebd | it's a fairly common thing in japan | 03:06 | 
| stinebd | but it usually happens more in places like kibukicho after a prostitute steals all your money | 03:06 | 
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| hyc | the light sensor doesn't seem to be outputting any meaningful values | 03:16 | 
| hyc | is there some command that needs to be issued to enable it first? | 03:17 | 
| ryannathans | I noticed it works half the time | 03:17 | 
| stinebd | the light sensor? | 03:19 | 
| stinebd | that's working by hardware | 03:19 | 
| hyc | it doesn't need to be specially enabled in any particular way? | 03:19 | 
| stinebd | wis added some sysfs entry that we write to in liblights when we want to enable it | 03:20 | 
| stinebd | and then the kernel does some register crap or something that lets microp (i think) take over the backlight control | 03:21 | 
| hyc | I see the autobl stuff | 03:22 | 
| hyc | set my display to autobright but sensor still hasn't changed | 03:22 | 
| hyc | mebbe the liblights call is being missed | 03:22 | 
| ryannathans | If it helps the auto backlight only works for me (usually) after a reboot | 03:23 | 
| ryannathans | after turning it on | 03:23 | 
| stinebd | hyc: gingerbread? | 03:24 | 
| hyc | nope froyo | 03:24 | 
| stinebd | ok | 03:24 | 
| hyc | ok, it writes to /dbgfs/micropklt_dbg/auto_backlight to toggle auto/manual | 03:24 | 
| hyc | aside from that, nothing that specifically addresses the sensor | 03:25 | 
| stinebd | right | 03:26 | 
| stinebd | we never have to talk to the sensor | 03:26 | 
| stinebd | microp does it all on its own | 03:26 | 
| hyc | ok | 03:29 | 
| hyc | ok going to try rebooting with it enabled | 03:31 | 
| hyc | nope. last boot it was always reading 0xff. now it's always zero. | 03:51 | 
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| hyc | yeah, it's no good. reading 0xffff now | 04:27 | 
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| ryannathans | how can we obtain the apk of something we downloaded from store? | 05:55 | 
| hyc | it's usually cached in /sdcard/download | 06:01 | 
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| Faryaab | hey guys | 07:10 | 
| Faryaab | any nes on new updates of gingerbread and froyo | 07:11 | 
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| ryannathans | Sync the giy tree and you would know | 07:21 | 
| ryannathans | git* | 07:21 | 
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| stinebd | no updates, i'm out of the country | 09:19 | 
| stinebd | oh he's gone | 09:19 | 
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| hyc | well, JB just confirmed that mic doesn't work with rhod speakerphone | 10:15 | 
| hyc | but he said it appears to work fine on other non-Rhods | 10:15 | 
| hyc | I guess I should've opened up that audio routing test to other phone models | 10:16 | 
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| Skrzyp | Hi all | 10:51 | 
| Skrzyp | Can you help me? | 10:51 | 
| Skrzyp | How to flash any Android HD2 ROM without SDCard? | 10:52 | 
| emwe | Skrzyp: no idea. this channel is not about HD2. | 10:54 | 
| emwe | hyc: you around by chance? | 10:54 | 
| Skrzyp | emwe: But is about all Android on XDA forums... | 10:55 | 
| emwe | Skrzyp: no, it's about the XDAndroid distribution which has nothing to do with HD2. raph, diam, kovs, black, rhod and topa only. | 10:56 | 
| hyc | "only"... as if 6 platforms weren't enough | 10:57 | 
| hyc | :P | 10:57 | 
| emwe | lol | 10:59 | 
| emwe | not counting whitestone, yet. | 10:59 | 
| emwe | nevermind about my question earlier. just had difficulties (ignorance) finding out how to pull a merge request on cmdline. | 11:00 | 
| hyc | ah ok | 11:00 | 
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| unox | hi Buddies, | 13:51 | 
| unox | i want to ask if it is possibe to install xdandroid on my htc prophet. | 13:52 | 
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| emwe | hyc: so you got that printk patch going and wakes fine now? | 14:28 | 
| emwe | hyc: should note that i had no issue whatsoever with the initial scbs version and wakes on topa (.35) | 14:28 | 
| hyc | wakes are pretty good now, yes | 14:29 | 
| emwe | apart from always having to press/hold the pwr button a tad bit longer then just "click" | 14:29 | 
| hyc | they can still take up to 5 seconds or so but that's now very rare | 14:29 | 
| emwe | so that printk patch is good to go you'd say? | 14:29 | 
| hyc | yes, works fine for me | 14:30 | 
| emwe | i hope we don't have to resort to such stuff with every kernel version. | 14:30 | 
| hyc | indeed | 14:30 | 
| emwe | perhaps they got that improved on newer kernels | 14:30 | 
| hyc | it would help if our kernel code wasn't so ridiculously chatty | 14:30 | 
| emwe | is there a ringbuffer or something for console devices we could increase? | 14:31 | 
| emwe | plz pardon my ignorance ^^ | 14:31 | 
| hyc | we really don't need to flood dmesg with every step of normal operation. logging should be fore extraordinary conditions. | 14:31 | 
| hyc | I don't know much about the ramconsole at all | 14:31 | 
| emwe | we are not yet at the unextraordinary state imho ;) | 14:31 | 
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| hyc | I know we've already got something like 256KB or 512KB allocated for the kmsg buffer | 14:32 | 
| emwe | ok | 14:32 | 
| hyc | which is, to me, incredible | 14:32 | 
| hyc | I don't even have it that large on my laptop with 4GB RAM ... | 14:32 | 
| emwe | i think our ramconsole is 128kb in size | 14:33 | 
| emwe | and then it wraps over. actually a tad bit before | 14:33 | 
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| emwe | hmpfs, are froyo libs from roots still bindmounted over /system/lib/? | 14:39 | 
| hyc | looks like it | 14:41 | 
| hyc | tho they ought not to be | 14:41 | 
| hyc | /system/lib/hw is still bindmounted | 14:42 | 
| emwe | currently trying to figure what keeps me rebooting | 14:42 | 
| emwe | just trying out alex msm7k/gps fix | 14:42 | 
| emwe | (fix for not relying on htw_hw) | 14:42 | 
| hyc | what did he fix? | 14:42 | 
| emwe | amss detection without htc_hw (.27) | 14:44 | 
| emwe | reading out gsm.version.baseband property | 14:44 | 
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| emwe | hyc: https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_libhardware_legacy/merge_requests/3 | 14:45 | 
| emwe | i just saw you also still had two open | 14:45 | 
| emwe | s/had/have | 14:45 | 
| emwe | ah, now the gps init looks better | 14:47 | 
| emwe | got fooled by rootfs libs. lets see if it still reboots | 14:47 | 
| toadlife | Well my issue with my microphone is definitely a hardware issue. The nuclear option is all I have now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/IMG_20110524_113047.jpg | 14:48 | 
| emwe | disassembly horray! | 14:49 | 
| arrrghhh | ohgod | 14:51 | 
| toadlife | Yeah. I reseated the cables. That's oretty much all that can be done aside from replacing parts. | 14:51 | 
| hyc | emwe: yeah I still have several merge requests outstanding | 14:54 | 
| hyc | toadlife: pretty brave of you, with a new baby in the house | 14:54 | 
| hyc | but while you're at it, take more closeup photos of all your parts | 14:55 | 
| toadlife | heh. The baby is really good. Just eats, poops and sleeps. | 14:55 | 
| hyc | I still fantasize about popping in a rhod100 ffc | 14:56 | 
| emwe | toadlife: your fourth now, right? | 14:56 | 
| toadlife | Yeah. We're old pros at this. | 14:56 | 
| emwe | yeah hehe | 14:56 | 
| emwe | my gf's doc just pointed at her biological clock today. haha. | 14:56 | 
| toadlife | Yeah, I bet that clock keeps better time than our phones ATM. | 14:58 | 
| hyc | zzzinnggggggg | 14:59 | 
| toadlife | hyc, why do you want pics of parts?\ | 14:59 | 
| emwe | raph running stock .27 no minute off running since 24h | 14:59 | 
| emwe | 99% sleeping | 14:59 | 
| emwe | wifi only, though. | 14:59 | 
| hyc | toadlife: I just said - I think about what effort it would take to transplant a rhod100's front camera module into a rhod210 | 14:59 | 
| toadlife | Ahh. missed that | 15:00 | 
| emwe | dunno what a frontcam would bring me. | 15:00 | 
| emwe | have one in topa, never used. | 15:00 | 
| hyc | do the drivers work for it on topa? | 15:02 | 
| toadlife | That might be possible. With my wing I repalced the housing with a stock herald housing. The internals were pretty much the same, | 15:02 | 
| hyc | I think it would just be a novelty | 15:02 | 
| toadlife | I'll get a good pic of the system board front and back | 15:02 | 
| hyc | the people who are so far away I'd like to videocall them, are also too far away to sustain a decent video connection | 15:02 | 
| emwe | hyc: oh, i can't tell. been testing out cam for one time only and it took a picture with regular cam. all that i know | 15:02 | 
| hyc | so, it's not something I've spent any serious thought on... | 15:03 | 
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| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_113047.jpg | 15:13 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120413.jpg | 15:13 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120558.jpg | 15:13 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120613.jpg | 15:14 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120624.jpg | 15:14 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120632.jpg | 15:14 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120639.jpg | 15:14 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120658.jpg | 15:14 | 
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/XDAndroid/phone%20internals/IMG_20110524_120715.jpg | 15:14 | 
| hyc | awesome | 15:19 | 
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| toadlife | Doh! Booted it up and screen didn't come on. ;( | 15:37 | 
| toadlife | *facepalm* | 15:38 | 
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| arrrghhh | ouch | 15:58 | 
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| has1 | hi people | 16:07 | 
| has1 | is there a guide available with step by step instruction on getting the latest stable version of xdandroid working on a htc touch pro 2? | 16:07 | 
| has1 | i cant find one, the ones i do find are like a year old | 16:08 | 
| arrrghhh | uhm | 16:08 | 
| arrrghhh | my thread | 16:08 | 
| emwe | lol | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | where are you searching? | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't see how people can't find it. | 16:09 | 
| emwe | arrrghhh: remember me yesterday? ;) | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | i'd like to remedy it tho | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | emwe, yea but you're just a dumb dev | 16:09 | 
| * arrrghhh runs | 16:09 | |
| emwe | arrrghhh: that's not to far from truth :P | 16:09 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:09 | 
| has1 | i found some other thread on the site | 16:11 | 
| has1 | it said something about edit startup.txt and so on but didnt explain it for the noobs like me | 16:11 | 
| has1 | can i use the guide if an older version is already installed on the phone? | 16:13 | 
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't recommend an older version | 16:14 | 
| arrrghhh | at least, i won't support an older version. | 16:14 | 
| arrrghhh | so can you tell me where you found that thread? | 16:14 | 
| arrrghhh | or perhaps how... | 16:14 | 
| has1 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?s=2180dcbe13289bc4a88f3edc41d6cd84&t=904918 | 16:17 | 
| has1 | what i mean is, on this phone currently there is an older version installed | 16:17 | 
| has1 | i think | 16:17 | 
| arrrghhh | ohgod | 16:17 | 
| arrrghhh | i thought those threads were all locked | 16:18 | 
| arrrghhh | it is | 16:18 | 
| arrrghhh | wtf dude | 16:18 | 
| arrrghhh | why are you dragging up an ancient locked thread... | 16:18 | 
| has1 | can i use the guid e you just gave me to install the newer version? | 16:18 | 
| has1 | i didnt use that old guide | 16:18 | 
| arrrghhh | everything you need is in my thread. | 16:18 | 
| arrrghhh | follow the steps | 16:18 | 
| has1 | just got a phone with a really buggy version of android | 16:18 | 
| has1 | dont need to uninstall or something? | 16:18 | 
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| arrrghhh | i would format the SD card with the HP Tool | 16:19 | 
| arrrghhh | details... in the first post of my thread. | 16:19 | 
| has1 | ok thanks | 16:19 | 
| has1 | and whats rhod/thopa/blackstone? | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | RHOD is Rhodium | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | TOPA is Topaz | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | Blackstone is... blackstone. | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | they're devices? | 16:20 | 
| has1 | i have a touch pro hd 2 | 16:21 | 
| has1 | touch pro 2* | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | so | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | we support many, many devices. | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | we also support RAPH, DIAM and the X1. | 16:22 | 
| has1 | so what would i need to at the calibration step? | 16:24 | 
| arrrghhh | uhm... what does it say to do? | 16:25 | 
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| has1 | the calibration file from the post , does it also work on touch pro 2? | 16:28 | 
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:31 | 
| arrrghhh | just download ts-calibration.zip. | 16:31 | 
| arrrghhh | christ. | 16:31 | 
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| has1 | :( | 16:33 | 
| has1 | thanks | 16:33 | 
| arrrghhh | c'mon dude | 16:34 | 
| arrrghhh | that's in the TouchPro2 section of the forum | 16:34 | 
| arrrghhh | AND I say it works with RHOD's. | 16:34 | 
| arrrghhh | what more do you want?!? | 16:34 | 
| toadlife | Yep. I nuked it. Oh well. Phone was next to unusable as it was. | 16:36 | 
| toadlife | I must have blown the board that connects to the screen. | 16:37 | 
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| arrrghhh | aw | 16:41 | 
| arrrghhh | that sucks dude | 16:41 | 
| arrrghhh | i'd be sad if my tp2 blew up, not sure what i would get | 16:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess Sprint still sells the TP2, so I'd probably get another one :P | 16:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i love that they still sell it for $199 on a 2yr. | 16:44 | 
| toadlife | Yeah. They don't want people to buy it | 16:44 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:45 | 
| arrrghhh | it's one of three int'l phones. | 16:45 | 
| arrrghhh | that and 2 bb's. | 16:45 | 
| toadlife | The one from sprint that I like is 149.00 | 16:46 | 
| toadlife | Epic 4g | 16:48 | 
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:49 | 
| arrrghhh | samsung. | 16:49 | 
| arrrghhh | kbd kinda blows, and the device just feels... shitty. | 16:49 | 
| manekineko | you can get an Epic 4G for free from Best Buy | 16:49 | 
| manekineko | sorry to hear about your phone | 16:50 | 
| manekineko | but you shouldn't, you should get another TP2 | 16:50 | 
| toadlife | Yeah. It's a bummer | 16:50 | 
| toadlife | Naw. The TP2 is old. | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | he can't get the epic | 16:50 | 
| manekineko | we need to keep up the population of users that know what's going on =P | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | unless he jumps shipo | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | shipo? | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:50 | 
| toadlife | Sorry guys. :( | 16:50 | 
| manekineko | ah not on Sprint? | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | you're tmo aren't you? | 16:50 | 
| arrrghhh | toadlife, ^^ | 16:50 | 
| toadlife | I'm a T-Mo customer but am looking to jump ship to sprint | 16:51 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:51 | 
| toadlife | Contacts ends in August | 16:51 | 
| manekineko | hmm that's a while to last with a phone that has no screen | 16:51 | 
| toadlife | I have an old flip phone. | 16:51 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:51 | 
| toadlife | We actually have two old dumb phones from t-mobile. | 16:52 | 
| toadlife | So I jsut popped my SIM in and I'm up and running til I decide what to do | 16:52 | 
| toadlife | For work I just need to be be able to get txt messagess | 16:52 | 
| arrrghhh | that is one nice thing | 16:52 | 
| arrrghhh | about GSM... | 16:52 | 
| arrrghhh | switching devices is cake. | 16:52 | 
| manekineko | yeah, I wish I was on a GSM carrier | 16:53 | 
| manekineko | well, other than the signal reception being terrible | 16:53 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i'll never leave sprint. so long as i have this deal, there's no reason for me to. | 16:53 | 
| manekineko | yeah, your deal is insanely good | 16:53 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed. no reason for me to look elsewhere. | 16:53 | 
| arrrghhh | the tmo reps always try to get me to do a heads-up comparison to sway me to their network. they can't even begin to compete. | 16:54 | 
| manekineko | heh I can just imagine | 16:54 | 
| manekineko | "so how much do you pay a month? and you get unlimited data? hmmm.......maybe T-Mobile isn't the best choice for you" | 16:54 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:54 | 
| arrrghhh | basically. | 16:55 | 
| arrrghhh | ah well, meeting time. | 16:55 | 
| manekineko | toadlife, how come you're planning on switching to Sprint? | 16:57 | 
| has1 | @arrrghhh, which startup.txt do i use for touch pro 2? | 16:58 | 
| manekineko | has1, depends on what model Touch Pro 2 you have | 16:58 | 
| toadlife | Because of At&T buying T-mobile. T-Mobile doesn't offer 3g in my area (rural). Now that At&T is buying t-mobile, they have no incentive to expand their 3g network. At&t and t-mobile used differwent frequencies for 3g, which means t-mobile phones cannot get 3g on at&t towers. | 16:59 | 
| manekineko | has1, you should really read the FAQ arrrghhh linked you to, it's all right there: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq#How_can_I_tell_what_device_I_have.3F_RAPH.3F_RHOD.3F | 16:59 | 
| toadlife | And I'm not a big fan of At&T anyway, | 16:59 | 
| manekineko | yeah, though hopefully that acquisition doesn't go through | 17:00 | 
| manekineko | if you're just planning on signing up for a regular plan, you can do a little better by signing up for an employee plan which Sprint secretly lets everyone sign up for | 17:00 | 
| toadlife | Hmmm. Really? | 17:00 | 
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| manekineko | http://mcguireslaw.com/2008/07/16/psst-have-you-heard-about-everything-plus/ | 17:02 | 
| manekineko | this blog is by a Sprint VP | 17:02 | 
| hyc | I signed a couple petitions to block the AT&T acquisition | 17:04 | 
| manekineko | I sure hope that doesn't go through | 17:04 | 
| hyc | likewise | 17:04 | 
| has1 | its working! | 17:07 | 
| manekineko | congrats | 17:07 | 
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| toadlife | manekineko , thanks fo th link :) | 17:42 | 
| toadlife | my ETF for t-mo is only $50 so I may pull the trigger early. I don't think I can take using a four year old flip phone until August | 17:44 | 
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| EdLin | toadlife yeah, I am eligable for converting my 1,500 minute plan (which I converted from a 500 minute plan) to T-Mobile's new unlimited-everything plan, and all I have to do is sign a new contract. With the prospect of becoming AT&T's customer, I don't think I want to do that. :) | 18:33 | 
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| arrrghhh | i don't see how the gov't could allow a GSM monopoly in the US. that seems dumb. | 19:42 | 
| stinebd | the government doesnt know what gsm is | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:43 | 
| stinebd | all they see is 3 cell providers | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | touche | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | you'd think someone would tell them tho... no? | 19:43 | 
| stinebd | no | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | :( | 19:43 | 
| stinebd | the carriers pay to have those guys killed before the call goes through | 19:43 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:44 | 
| arrrghhh | so how's japan? | 19:44 | 
| stinebd | nobody talks to me here | 19:44 | 
| stinebd | i love it | 19:44 | 
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 19:44 | 
| arrrghhh | you guailo | 19:45 | 
| stinebd | except for one of the news shows, which i'll be on some time saturday | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | for what? | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | what horrible things have you done | 19:45 | 
| stinebd | they were interviewing gaijin across the street from sensoji | 19:45 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:46 | 
| stinebd | also i had to toss the law of the land at some new yorker taking pictures of people praying in there | 19:46 | 
| stinebd | no respect | 19:46 | 
| arrrghhh | no joke... | 19:46 | 
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| toadlife | Well it was nice working with you guys. I'll be checking in from time to time to see how progress is going. | 21:52 | 
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| ryannathans | what is this madness? < toadlife> Well it was nice working with you guys. I'll be checking in from time to time to see how progress is going. | 22:52 | 
| rpierce99 | he killed his TP2 | 22:52 | 
| ryannathans | looks like he killed it getting pics for hyc as far as I can tell ;P | 22:54 | 
| ryannathans | what rhod do you have? | 22:54 | 
| rpierce99 | 400 | 22:54 | 
| ryannathans | does it have a touch zoombar? | 22:54 | 
| rpierce99 | and no, it was taken apart already, hyc just asked for more pics | 22:55 | 
| rpierce99 | yes | 22:55 | 
| ryannathans | front cam? | 22:55 | 
| rpierce99 | no, thats on the 100 only afaik | 22:55 | 
| ryannathans | 0.o my rhod110 has front cam and it's nothing like the rhod100 | 22:55 | 
| rpierce99 | ok, 100-series then | 22:56 | 
| ryannathans | Would you think that the zoom bar is an extension of the touch screen beyond the visible screen or a separate touch pad, I tend to believe the second | 22:56 | 
| rpierce99 | i would think it's a separate component but could share internals, like sending the data on the same pipe as the touchscreen or something, but i have no idea | 22:58 | 
| ryannathans | when I get the light right I can see a strip in there, under the lines and about the same height of those lines, if not a few mm bigger. | 23:00 | 
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