Monday, 2011-05-23

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Recnamoruenhyc you here?01:12
hycnope01:13
RecnamoruenWell fine01:14
hycI read the logs y'know. just ask whatever you're gonna ask.01:14
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RecnamoruenI actually just had a quick question, I moved to your system.ext and everything else. If I move back to actual xdandroid system.ext I'll have to do all the mounts for your ril again correct?01:15
RecnamoruenAt least until they release frx701:15
hycof course01:15
RecnamoruenAh damn.01:16
RecnamoruenWelp, I want the default android alerts and ringtnes so to work to work I go01:17
hycwhat default alerts?01:18
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RecnamoruenWell after I installed your system.ext I have no ringtones or notifcation sounds01:18
RecnamoruenUnless I'm blind and missed something else that I should have01:18
hycI guess you can copy xdandroid's system/media to mine then01:18
hycI haven't made any changes tho01:19
hycwhatever is in the build tree is what goes into the image.01:19
Recnamoruenhmmm01:19
Recnamoruenwonder if i fucked something up somewhere01:19
RecnamoruenI bet I did01:20
Recnamoruentime to go look at arrghs full bundle01:20
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toadlifehyc, you still getting SODs with your latest kernels?01:26
toadlifeLove your latest sys build.01:26
hycwell... not quite SoD I don't think01:26
hycjust very very very slow wakes01:26
hychad a typo in rootfs init.rc, so bluetooth startup was bbotched01:27
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hycjust fixed that a few minutes ago01:27
toadlifeJust got an Orange Light SOD. PLugged in USB and the computer didn't register it so I was deifintely dead01:27
hycok01:27
toadlifeI'll just fix it myself01:27
toadlifeIf I can find the typo ;P01:27
hycI had a spontaneous reboot too01:28
hycbrcmpatchram_plus01:28
hycshould be brcm_patchram_plus01:28
toadlifethanks01:28
hycso overall I think this kernel is a failure01:28
hycprobably going to have to drop scbs01:28
toadlifeYeah I've been getting spontaneous rebootrs the last couple of days. usually after using GPS and Bluetooth01:28
toadlifeWith 1319 from the bluetooth/audi thread though01:29
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hycreally, 1319 is failing on you too?01:29
hycemwe just made another patch, I guess I can try pulling it in01:29
toadlifeIt was. I had several reboots and one SOD01:29
hyc(autobuild)01:29
hycbut his commit message is pretty uncertain :P01:30
toadlifeYeah, you said you were losing a ton of time01:30
hycyes01:30
hycdoesn't seem to be gradual though01:31
hycone hour sleep, no problem01:31
hyc5 hours later - way off01:31
hycso some special event occurred. no idea where to look.01:31
toadlifeI ran scbs awhile back and I remember having stability issues, but I have no idea if it was scbs or just a coincidence. I keep my phone plugged in over night so I havnet noticed time loss.01:32
hychmmm. ok, emwe's commit matches a change WisTilt2 had me try earlier01:33
hycI guess I can pull it in01:33
hycwhat's your experience of autobacklight so far?01:34
toadlifeONly been running your sys for 20 minutes. I'll let you know tomorow01:35
hycok01:35
toadlifeWife had the baby yesterday. I'm taking 2 weeks off so I'll have plenty of time to test.01:35
toadlifehttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/sean-peter.jpg01:35
hycWow, congratulations01:35
toadlifethanks01:41
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stinebdsorry to burst your bubble, but your wife just had a baby. you're not gonna have ANY time to test.01:54
slickdaddy96jcmsVEN: My work's VPN is Cisco, and I got my xdandroid build to log into their VPN.  I had to modify the tun.ko file to get it to work along with downloading the VPNC widget.  I have since deleted when I had to load a new build and start fresh getting MMS working, but I think there is thread in the forum where I said how I did it.  Worked for me.01:56
RecnamoruenWhat is scbs?02:30
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Recnamoruennevermind02:35
hychm. new kernel also doesn't awlays set LED to orange on full wakeup. weird.02:43
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Recnamoruenhyc what do you consider really long wake up times?03:35
hycmore than 10 seconds03:38
hycas long as a minute03:38
RecnamoruenHow long do you have it asleep before that happens?03:38
hycdoesn't seem to matter much.03:38
hycif you let it go to sleep and immediately wake it up, it's usally fast.03:39
hycif it's down for more than a couple seconds, forget it.03:39
RecnamoruenHmm03:39
RecnamoruenCuz AFAIK I'm not having that issue03:39
hycI guess you're lucky then :P03:39
Recnamoruenlol03:39
RecnamoruenI'm just letting you know03:39
hycwhat kernel?03:40
Recnamoruenyours03:40
hycyes but which version?03:40
Recnamoruenthe 5/2203:40
hycgive me a build number03:40
Recnamoruenlol03:40
hycI've put up 3 kernels today already03:40
hyc1328 is last03:41
Recnamoruen01326?03:41
hychmmm03:41
hycwell you're lucky I guess.03:41
Recnamoruen:P03:41
RecnamoruenAlso ooo03:41
RecnamoruenA new kernal03:41
hycall of these are giving me slow wakes.03:41
RecnamoruenAlso is there an easier way to see your links on your page, I have to keep viewing page source to see them, wanted to know if thats the way u want them03:42
hycno. in fact since you ask, I'm going to make it harder next time.03:44
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RecnamoruenLol03:45
emweheyho03:45
RecnamoruenHello emwe03:45
emwehyc: the recent autobuild commit just disables the arm9 ISR which is assumed to cause a serious amount of more SODs especially on rhod03:45
RecnamoruenWell, not sure if im happy about that03:46
emwehi Recnamoruen03:46
emweKraln: as aarrghhh already told ya, it arrived!03:46
hycemwe: thanks03:46
emweKraln: nice device! is there a protective foil on the display?03:46
emwehyc: so anything what is "lost" temporarily is the instant cable plug notification.03:47
hycRecnamoruen: I don't do this for you to be happy. I do this for testers that I'm working with directly. usually arrrghhh, rpierce99, and a handful of others.03:47
emwehyc: until this weekend for much much freaking long the RHOD takes to wake. that is very much a RHOD issue in intself.03:47
hycThe right thing still is to line on stinebd to get FRX07 out.03:47
hycemwe: yeah...03:48
emweoh my sentence wasn't complete :)03:48
emwetopa is way faster with full panel reinit03:48
hycbtw, WisTilt2 gave me that patch a few days ago too, but there is a 2nd part of it03:48
emwea 2nd part?03:49
hycmach-msm/pm.c line 338 must be uncommented03:49
RecnamoruenOh, no I apologize if you misunderstood me, I understand that you don't support your build at all, I just wasn't sure if my browser wasn't showing something correctly or if thats how you wanted it to be.03:49
hycemwe: I don't know anything about topa but certainly rhod can be faster03:50
emwehyc: can you do a quick paste of the line?03:50
hycWistilt2's earlier testing kernels had very fast wakes03:50
hyc                /* ARM9 puts the irq status here. We need this on wake up to know if some interrupts were triggered. */03:50
hyc                writel(0,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc128);03:50
emweah shitto03:50
emwedamnit03:50
emweso autobuild still screwed? you gave it a try?03:51
emwei just commited untested...03:51
hycactually I don't know, have not tried the autobuild yet03:51
emwei am not yet sure if that register is just a wakereason "info" register or if it actually is interpreted by ARM9 again03:51
hycand I'm not sure how necessary this is. are the interrupts going to be unacknowledged without this write?03:51
hycok03:51
emwethe interrupts are usually acknowledged in the specific VIC registers doen by irq.c03:52
emweso i am not sure bits have to be unset in there at all03:52
hycthen perhaps this isn't necessary03:52
emwewe'll see03:52
emwebtw, jb has redone his libaudio...03:52
hycyeah I saw his tree03:53
emwemaking it backward compatible with old hack snd_state kernels03:53
hyche says he'll email out the update so I'll wait03:53
emwehe contacted me, said after his rebase to autobuild, he got a lot of SODs, then he redid his libaudio and now he can't get them on his RHOD anymore03:53
emwejust started yesterday getting .35 into shape for rhod03:53
hyceh?03:53
emweperhaps just coincidence03:54
hycredid libaudio fixed SODs?03:54
emweperhaps it was just coincidence really03:54
hycok03:54
emwewe have the suspicion a SIM plugged causes it03:54
hycYay, 3.5 for rhod03:54
hyc.3503:54
emwei got the raph and topa running SIMless, all fine03:54
hycnice03:54
emweno SOD wakes up on alarm clock03:54
emwehe said he saw a smd_close() when it hang for him03:54
emwei never saw anything like that03:55
hycwith .35 we can merge cyanogenmod's kernel fixes03:55
emwepure SOD not unblanking but recognizing cable-plugs according to ramconsole03:55
hycand get their 3.5mm headphone jack driver03:55
emwehtc_35mm.c?03:55
hycis that it? I think so03:55
emwe35mmjack or so03:55
hycyeah03:55
emwenot sure how that works. i see i2c/microp stuff going on03:56
hychaven't looked in detail, just saw that it existed03:56
hycpresumably better than nothing, but dunno what model it's for03:57
emwemahimahi has it over microp. so not sure we have the luck it's done differently.03:57
hycah03:57
emwebut first i need to get that msm_ts up for rhod03:58
hyctouchscreen?03:58
emweyes03:58
hycyeah, a bithigher priority...03:59
emweas i only have distinct devices i am not sure we need calibration or not03:59
emweit worsk, just not calibrated03:59
emweand i need to figure keys. can it be phone, start and back keys are managed via keyboard and not as gpio keys?04:00
emweat elast that is what it looks from .2704:00
emwedon't have an idea about that whole keyboard business at all04:00
hycI think somethingl ike that yes04:00
hycmaybe only volume and power are gpio04:00
emwevol, pwr and end from the looks.04:02
emweso yeah, another stone in the way - kbd handling via alex' new microp.04:02
emwewe'll get to it ;)04:02
hycoh? .35 has a new microp?04:03
hycfun fun fun....04:03
emweon .27 all is in the two files for all devices handling lights and keyboard04:04
emwethat is a bit of a mess if you look at microp-[klt,ksc].c04:04
emwemicrop-ng act's as a data writer/reader only to which different implementations can hook up to04:05
emwe(pardon if not all was technically that right)04:05
hycyeah, I gotcha04:05
stinebdain't releasing frx07 from japan, son04:06
hyclol04:06
hycdidn't expect you would ;)04:06
hycjust saying; I'd rather not be in the release-building biz, I'll leave it up to you guys.04:07
hycbut my build at least provides proof that my patches don't blow anything up :P04:08
hycwow, some folks are never satisfied. now someone is asking for TV OUT support.04:09
stinebdi want tv in support04:15
hycpoint your camera lens at your tv04:15
emwelol04:20
emwehi stinebd. how is it over in japan?04:20
stinebdstarting to go a bit better now04:22
stinebdmy issues with breakfast are solved04:22
stinebdthe issue being that almost no restaurants are open04:22
emwehuh? due to the atomic disaster?04:22
stinebdculture04:22
stinebdwhen people eat out for breakfast in japan, it's during the commute, so they just pick up quickies that they can inhale on the train04:23
stinebdby the time we get out, those places have all switched to selling lunch boxes04:23
stinebdso i went to the local supermarket and picked up cereal and eating tools :P04:25
stinebdalso i should mention the restaurant prices are quite high (as expected)04:25
stinebdso i also get dinner boxes from the supermarket instead04:26
stinebdit's like eating leftovers04:26
stinebdexcept without the tedious cooking involved04:26
hyclol04:26
stinebdfor some reason the post office was closed today04:28
hycrapture holiday?04:33
stinebdmost likely it's due to power shortage04:34
stinebdbut they didn't have any signs posted about it04:34
emwesounds interessting, really.04:36
emwegermany has only 4 atom plants running left. testing out with how many we make it without power shortage...04:37
emwe4 of a total 17 IIRC04:37
stinebdi don't understand why germany is doing that. seems like a knee-jerk reaction04:37
stinebdthey aren't exactly in a disaster-prone area like japan04:37
emweyes, bow to the green party and public demand04:38
stinebda lot of the same nonsense in america too04:38
emwewell, they need to get their ass up really.04:38
stinebdbut of course we're worried about terrorists hitting them and taking out new york04:39
emwei think the pressure here mostly comes from or at least as a side effect for germany not loosing technological lead in renewable energies04:39
hychm.05:13
hycwith current kernel I see spurious USB connect events on shutdown05:14
hycor ... hints of them anyway05:14
hycthe USB connected notifications show up multiple times in notification bar while shutdown is proceeding05:14
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hyc(USB was not plugged in at the time either)05:15
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ryannathanshyc: ping09:10
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ryannathansAs long as all credits are provided etc. Am I allowed to post a complete build with bluetooth working and audio working (all thanks to hyc by the way!) So that people that would like to test it without the knowledge of putting it all together, also for ease.09:13
hycPlease don't.09:13
ryannathansOkay ;)09:14
hycJB is going to be posting a new version of the patches in the next day or two.09:14
ryannathansahh sweet09:14
hycAnd as a general principle, no.09:14
ryannathansare there any huge changes between gb tree and gbx0a?09:14
hycPeople who need everything in an easy all-in-one package generally are useless as testers.09:14
ryannathans(only just downloaded it)09:15
ryannathansshit, forgot .csv's -.- no wonder it's not working09:16
hycFor me, the difficulty of installing a piece of test code is a necessary barrier to entry. It helps ensures that only qualified testers will get involved.09:16
hycit helps make sure that useful test feedback comes in.09:16
ryannathansI see, how do I install this brcm_patchram_plus?09:17
hycPeople who are familiar with the system will have little trouble getting it going, and they'll be experienced enough to recognize when something is wrong.09:17
hycAnyone else would just waste time saying "it doesn't work" without providing usable details.09:17
hycand if you have to ask that, then you've disqualified yourself from the test.09:18
ryannathansHow much I love you guys09:18
ryannathansit's a simple drag and drop isn't it?09:18
ryannathansor just running it?09:19
hycI don't use guis...09:19
ryannathansinstall or patch?09:19
hycnothing is drag and drop as far as I'm concerned09:19
ryannathanswoot i think i installed it09:23
ryannathansRead default bdaddr of 00:23:76:75:78:40 means it installed yeah?09:24
ryannathansor do i just move it to a particular dir09:25
ryannathans*crosses fingers*09:34
ryannathansARGHHH The bloody bluetooth button comes on but for longer than normal, then it goes back09:45
ryannathansD:09:45
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ryannathansrpierce99: have you tried bluetooth yet?09:59
rpierce99not really10:00
rpierce99i installed it all10:00
rpierce99but never really tested it10:00
rpierce99i have since uninstalled it10:00
ryannathans*cries and runs for the hills*10:03
ryannathansI have done it twice now, im sure im doing it right, and damn bluetooth still wont switch on10:03
rpierce99you've tried it with both of the HCD files?10:03
ryannathansWOOT10:03
ryannathansIT TURED ON10:03
ryannathansI spammed the bluetooth checkbox and for some reason it started working10:04
ryannathansWIN.10:04
ryannathanstime to test10:04
stinebdyou guys would not believe shibuya10:05
rpierce99i have no idea what that is, so i'm guessing you are either right or wrong10:06
stinebdshibuya?10:06
rpierce99googling it currently10:06
rpierce99ah, a place10:06
rpierce99got it10:06
ryannathansim guessing a place10:06
ryannathansaww beat me10:06
stinebdhome to the busiest pedestrian crossing in the world10:07
stinebdit's like times square on new years, but every day10:07
rpierce99did you visit the dog statue?10:07
stinebdprobably10:07
stinebdi went out that exit at the station10:07
rpierce99sounds like Shubya 109 is where you want to go10:09
rpierce99a popular and trendy place for mostly Japanese young women to shop.10:09
stinebdit's gone10:09
rpierce99damn you wikipedia for failing me again10:10
stinebdit's just part of the tokyu now10:10
hycok I am officially not a fan of scbs. battery drains faster and clock loses time continually.10:12
rpierce99WisTilt2 said he found the cause of the drift, but no one was going to like the patch10:12
hycugh10:12
hyci would still like to see an explanation10:13
hycthis is totally unusable10:14
ryannathanshyc: bluetooth is orgasmic10:14
rpierce99neither clock drift nor slightly faster battery drain accounts for that statement, what makes it unusable10:15
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hycand honest to god, there are only 100 increments of the battery level. shouldn't need to poll for data every 5 seconds.10:15
hycactually yes, the clock drift makes a lot of the system unusable.10:16
hycclock, calendar ,alarms, appointments10:16
rpierce99clock drift is easily fixed with an app from the market10:17
hyccall logs...10:17
hycthat's bogus10:17
hycmore layers of bandaids10:17
hycinstead of actually fixing the problem10:17
rpierce99i don't disagree, but calling it unusable because of drift is overdramatic10:18
hycok, itis easily worked around. not fixed.10:18
rpierce99agreed10:19
hycanyway this isn't simple drift, which implies unstable reference clock. it is always lag, which indicates lost timer interrupts.10:20
ryannathanshyc: is force_cdma=1 needed with your RIL?10:20
hyci dunno ryannathans, why don't you read the writeup.10:21
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ryannathansdoes 1st post still apply to ril2?10:23
hycand any time you lose interrupts, there's bound to be something else you're hosing too. you just haven't discovered it yet.10:23
ryannathansscratch above comment ^^10:23
ryannathansdude it doesn't say -.-10:24
ryannathanswas reading wrong post10:24
ryannathanssweet, updated my guide10:28
hycI always document every relevant fact in my work. If you're asking questions like that you're not paying attention.10:28
hycpeople who don't pay attention go on my ignore list.10:29
ryannathansAppologies.10:29
ryannathansI have exams soon and have been doing alot of late night studying - it's really getting to me10:29
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hycApparently it's possible to run the gingerbread framework on top of an otherwise-froyo build http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=87186910:35
stinebdlol my bank just got pissy with me10:35
hycmight be an interesting approach10:35
stinebdhalfway through my trip and they just realized i'm not in the country10:36
hyclol10:36
ryannathansfail10:36
stinebdand the chick is yelling at me for not filing a foreign travel something or other10:36
stinebdand it's not on their site anywhere10:36
hycwow. they've never yelled at me. just asked "please tell us in the future"10:37
stinebdi don't even know who i would tell10:37
hycI actually did phone them on my next trip, took like 1 minute, no big deal10:37
ryannathansComplain and tell them to get better customer service10:37
hycand never bothered again after that10:37
stinebdno way10:37
stinebdat least she's american10:37
ryannathansTouche10:38
stinebdi'll let them call me again next time, i don't really care10:38
ryannathansAhh well, it's getting late again, night guys.10:38
stinebdi definitely won't remember or care enough to let them know10:38
stinebdnight10:38
ryannathanswhat is it of their business anyway?10:38
hycthey track you for fraud prevention10:38
stinebdwell it's a check card so i'm guessing they have to do it for fraud prevention10:39
hycit's saved my ass a couple times.10:39
ryannathansMmm I guess so10:39
stinebdthen again my credit card bank hasn't complained at all yet10:39
stinebdand i put quite a bit more on that10:39
hycthey saw I paid for a parking structure in one part of town, while someone else made a purchase on my account in a different city.10:39
ryannathansHeh, good luck with the rest of your trip, im off.10:39
rpierce99if i were the bank I wouldn't bitch at you, I'd just turn that shit off, if you have a problem, well you should have called10:40
hycyeah they usually do both10:40
stinebdanyway at least i found out about the call before going to the atm and having it scream japanese expletives at me10:41
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hyclol10:41
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arrrghhhhyc, i know that 'fix' isn't really a fix11:27
arrrghhhbut it allows GSM folk to boot at least...11:27
hycI guess.11:28
arrrghhhlol11:28
hycboot up as a non-phone.11:28
arrrghhhyup11:28
hycgreat....11:28
arrrghhhsince i don't have any way to test why GSM is failing, that's really all i can do11:28
arrrghhhis relay info from other fewls.11:28
arrrghhhi would ask you what's going on, but i know you don't want to mess with NAND yet :P11:29
arrrghhhi figured you'd want to get rid of WinMo more than anybody hahaha11:29
hycheh...11:29
hycfinding out would mean switching back to my G1 as my primary phone11:30
hycwhich admittedly works perfectly11:30
arrrghhhheh11:30
arrrghhhyeayea11:30
arrrghhhyou and your native Android device.11:30
hyc:P11:30
hychey, it's gone through a lot of the exact same problems11:30
hycthey just got solved a year ago11:31
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arrrghhhreally11:31
arrrghhhthat's funny11:31
hycG1 hasn't been supported since eclair11:31
hycGoogle dropped support11:31
arrrghhhorly11:31
arrrghhhdamn Google11:31
arrrghhhnot supporting ancient hardware :P11:31
hycyeah. everything since then has been developed by the community11:31
hycand they have the same issues moving to gingerbread that we have11:31
hycno GPS library, etc.11:32
hycexcept they've already written shims to make it work11:32
arrrghhhhrm11:32
arrrghhhi think stine wanted to rewrite it11:32
hycwhatever11:32
arrrghhhi wonder if their shims would port to our junk.11:32
hycmaybe. i don't see why not.11:32
hycit's from the gingerbread API to the froyo API11:32
arrrghhhoh right, you hate gb.11:32
arrrghhh:P11:32
hycas long as out libraries interface to the same API the same shim ought to work11:33
arrrghhhi'll find a way to trick you into working on gb yet.11:33
hycit has only just barely started working stably on G111:33
hycthere were still issues with memory leaks in surfaceflinger, other stuff11:33
hycGB was not ready for primetime11:33
hycmaybe it's ok by now, I've stopped watching the G1 forums11:33
arrrghhhheh11:34
hycbut the one thing I hate is working with too many unknowns11:34
hycand up till now there'd be no way to know if a bug was userland or kernel11:35
hyconce GB settles down you can have a better idea of where you stand11:35
hycI also don't like leaving things in a mess. I like things to be in a better state after I touch them.11:36
hycForoy is just about good now.11:37
hycFroyo11:37
toadlifearrrghhh's phone hates Froyo.11:41
arrrghhhFroyo is almost done.11:41
arrrghhhmost of the things that remain effect both systems11:42
hycooo. stopping the scbs daemon helped my slow wakes and my clock drift.11:42
toadlifeHmmm. Maybe the instability I had while running scbs was caused by scbs11:42
arrrghhhlol11:42
arrrghhhthat's crazy talk.11:42
hycgonna axe that from my build. I can live with an inaccurate battery gauge.11:43
toadlifeYou never know when you're testing three things at any one time11:43
toadlifeCan you leave the kernel parts in your kernels?11:43
hycI guess so11:43
hycwhy?11:43
toadlifeI might want to keep running it. ;P11:44
toadlifeI'm a gluton for punishment11:44
hycscbs might be a good idea but it seriously needs a better implementation11:44
toadlifeYou can set the data collection interval for scbs.  Maybe jacking up the interval might help with the sleep issues.11:45
hycdoesn't matter11:45
hycthe fact that running it causes issues means it's doing something wrong inside the kernel11:45
toadlifehmmm11:46
rpierce99WisTilt2 has been running SCBS on 15 phones for about a month and none of them have had any stability issues11:46
rpierce99when combined with this 4/15 kernel11:46
rpierce99s/this/his/11:47
hycyeah well, nobody else has his 4/15 code, or not in a runnable state.11:47
toadlifeThat doesn't help much if his patched will never make it in11:47
hychis original PM patches don't apply to the main tree11:47
rpierce99his 4/15 test kernel is posted11:48
rpierce99it's what i'm running because wakes are FAST11:48
hycwhat, the binary?11:48
arrrghhhindeed, i still run it.11:48
arrrghhhyea11:48
rpierce99sorry you said code11:48
rpierce99yes11:48
hycyeah but that's no good if you want audio, backlights, etc etc...11:48
arrrghhheh who needs those things.11:48
arrrghhh:P11:48
toadlifeYeah I'm enjoying proper audio and BT.  I communte and BT is a must11:49
arrrghhhi just don't talk on the phone when i'm driving11:49
arrrghhhproblem solved.11:49
arrrghhhi'm not a very important person tho :P11:49
toadlifehehe11:49
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hycI see what he's doing...11:52
hycin the ioctl to retrieve data he just waits until data is ready to consume11:53
hycshould be using mutexes so the context can actually go to sleep11:53
hyche's using spinlocks. sigh.11:53
hyccollecting data like this is kinda silly. should just collect it on-demand from userland and do away with all of the kernel-side timers11:58
hycand locks11:58
arrrghhhthis should be fun11:59
arrrghhhpost it to the ML11:59
arrrghhh:P11:59
hycI'll think about it11:59
hycI also don't like the fact that userland has to execute every 5 seconds11:59
hycit's a freakin' battery. we'll see it's value from 0 to 100.12:00
arrrghhhyea12:00
arrrghhhi think he got a little *too* granular12:00
hycOver the span of 72 hours that means it should change one point every 45 minutes.12:00
hycTherefore you should only need to sample it once every 22 minutes.12:01
hycTo be conservative, once every 10 minutes would be plenty. once a minute would already be overkill.12:02
arrrghhhheh12:02
rpierce99generating an accurate model would take hundreds of times longer wouldn't it?12:02
arrrghhhi think he was tryin to account for severe drain12:02
hycthen maybe use an adaptive model, sample sooner if the change is large12:03
rpierce99doesn't work with the model generation algo12:03
hycbut again don't go overboard otherwise the sampling becomes a significant part of the drain12:03
hyc"accurate model" - it's way overkill12:04
rpierce99i think it needs to be broken into 2 parts, maybe leave it at 5 seconds for the model generation portion, then when you have a solid model switch it to much more infrequent polling to check the current level12:04
arrrghhhi think it needs to be automated more12:04
hycagreed12:06
arrrghhhso the end-user doesn't need to create a model12:06
arrrghhhproblem is, determining when to create a model12:06
hycalso keep in mind that userland already tracks battery usage stats12:06
arrrghhhhrm12:07
hycwith the current code, if you replace the battery you'll have to re-do all the model generation12:08
arrrghhhyup12:09
arrrghhhand in theory every few months you should redo the model i would think12:09
arrrghhhas the battery ages12:09
hycugh. probably.12:09
arrrghhhlol12:09
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan Ho!12:16
toadlifeHow about just fixing the original battery code so it works?12:17
toadlifeLike it does in WinMo ;P12:17
arrrghhhzomg12:18
* arrrghhh stabs toadlife12:18
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:18
arrrghhhlol did he donate twice?12:18
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:18
arrrghhhwtf12:18
rpierce99indecisive much?12:19
toadlifeYeah, yeah. "WinMo" and "Just Works" don;t usually go together12:19
arrrghhhthrice?12:19
toadlifeClicked the post buttom three times?12:19
arrrghhhi guess12:19
arrrghhhhe's only listed once on the donor list12:19
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan Ho!12:19
toadlifeOUr users at work do that with the tocketing system. Put in duplicate cases all the time12:20
rpierce99lolz12:20
toadlifeLOL12:20
toadlifeTwo double clicks on the post button from Stan12:21
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:21
rpierce99hahahhahaha12:22
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:27
helicopter88omg 6 times donating?12:28
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:31
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:32
helicopter888?12:32
hychis paypal account is going to love him12:32
helicopter88lol12:33
helicopter88i want to see 10 donations12:33
helicopter88Stan H. other two times please :)12:33
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:34
rpierce99stan h is in this room and is screwing with us :P12:34
hycthey're 10 cents each12:35
helicopter88lol12:35
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:35
helicopter88he donated 1$ in total12:35
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hyclol12:35
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:36
helicopter88wtf12:36
helicopter88where's the donor list,i want to check if it's listed 11 times12:36
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:37
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:38
helicopter88imho xdandroid got crazy12:38
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helicopter88i checked,last donation was 0.01$12:41
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hyche really is screwing with us :P12:44
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:44
helicopter88he's donating 1 cent lol12:44
helicopter88why you would do 18 donations of 1 cent12:45
rpierce99either that or he is trying to find a weakness to exploit12:45
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Stan H.!12:46
helicopter88xdandroid,please stop spamming :)12:46
hycI'm going to change the scbs service in my rootfs to disabled by default12:47
hycif you want it you can issue "start scbs" yourself12:47
toadlifeMaybe Stan is angry at xdandroid devs and he's being snarky.  arrrghhh probably told him he was a failure at life.12:53
arrrghhhmeh12:53
arrrghhhhe probably is.12:53
arrrghhhbut he's slowly giving us money, so w00t?12:54
toadlifehyc, sounds good12:54
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arrrghhhemwe, how's 3.5mm goin? :PO13:04
arrrghhher13:04
arrrghhh:P13:04
emwetsts13:04
emwets and keyboard first i'd say13:05
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emwearrrghhh: those slow wakes are really slow wakes. this is ridiculously long compared to topa.13:06
arrrghhhreally?13:06
arrrghhhit's that bad compared to topa?13:06
emweseriously13:07
rpierce99topa doesn't have collapse does it?13:07
emweit does13:07
arrrghhhrpierce99, AFAIK it does13:07
emwewas the first13:07
rpierce99gotcha13:07
emwe(C) Markinus13:07
arrrghhhheh13:07
emwelet me first get the basic things setup, just did a little yet.13:07
emweand just came home.13:08
arrrghhhoh are you getting .35 up on RHOD?13:08
emwestarted a bit on sunday yes13:08
arrrghhhnice.13:08
emwejust need to fix ts calibration13:08
emweit's a bit off, and i have the suspicion we need that dynamic calibration which msm_ts driver doesn't support yet.13:09
emwewhich i think was hacked into tssc-manager on .2713:09
emwes/hacked/coded13:09
emwesupper time. self made sushi from the weekend. laters.13:11
arrrghhhheh13:13
arrrghhhcya13:13
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hycrecnamoruen: something flaky with the directory structure of the system.ext213:40
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hycit's making the mediascanner hit errors13:41
hychad to patch libmedia.so to fix the error13:42
hycanyway, that's why your ringtones weren't appearing13:42
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toadlifeGee. Only took about 60 seconds for the phone to wake up that time. :\14:05
* toadlife kills scbs14:05
hycyeah, that's what I've been talking about14:05
rpierce99hyc, jonpry pinged you in htc-linux14:06
hycthx14:06
toadlifeYeah. I've had enough.14:06
hyc14:07
hyctoadlife: you never had this trouble with the original scbs kernel did you? super slow wakes?14:16
hycit's always possible I botched the kernel patch14:16
emwethe original patch had quickwakeup msm_rtc-7x01a.c timer.c and pm.c patches along with htc_battery_smem.c and scbs.c itself14:17
hycyes14:18
hycbut jonproy's pm.c patches were already merged into mainline14:18
toadlifehyc, no. When originally tested scbs, the problems I had were system stability, not slow waking14:27
toadlifeBut that was wistilt2's kernel which, as we all know, has magical waking abilities.14:27
arrrghhhlol14:28
arrrghhhit does14:28
arrrghhhmagic14:28
toadlifeyes, it does. i miss them.14:28
arrrghhhi still use it :P14:29
hycapparently jonpry sent me old code14:30
hycsigh14:30
arrrghhhlol14:30
emwearrrghhh: what kernels from the past are recommended from redoing ts-calib again?14:31
emwes/from/for14:31
arrrghhhi found the newest i was able to calib on14:31
arrrghhh132014:31
arrrghhhare you not able to?14:31
emwei was yesterday on rhod .. had to be quick though14:31
emwedoesn't work out on raph... screwed it's file due to being used on rhod14:32
emwehad to take that sdcard14:32
emwenow found another old one from the old tattoo of my gf14:32
arrrghhhheh14:32
arrrghhhthe hand-me-downs from your gf14:32
toadlifeSounds familiar. ;P14:32
emwelol14:32
toadlifeall of my sdcards have been hand-me-downs from my wife14:33
emwebut i have more electromagnetic radion!14:33
emweradiation... wtf.14:33
arrrghhhhahha14:33
emwegoing for a february kernel14:33
arrrghhhzomg14:34
arrrghhhare you on your raph or your rhod?14:34
emweraph. just wan't to get it runnable again14:34
emweas the stock .27 tester14:34
arrrghhhah14:34
arrrghhhok14:34
emwei backed up the sd, but not ts-calibration. *bangshead*14:35
arrrghhhbwhahaha14:35
arrrghhhi have a ts-calib for raph posted on my thread14:35
arrrghhhif you want to just try to use that14:35
emweohkies. FRX06 one?14:36
arrrghhhyes14:37
arrrghhhshould be in both threads in fact :P14:37
emweomg. i feel like a beginner not wanting to read. a shame...14:39
emweonly a blackstone one there14:39
emwechecking the raph forums..14:40
arrrghhhwell that's where it would be14:40
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95198114:40
emweah lol that 4th post?!14:41
* emwe runs14:41
arrrghhhit's in the first post!  wtf.14:42
arrrghhhdamnit man.14:42
emweey, now i am totally confused. it's usable for wvga and vga14:42
emwe=14:43
arrrghhhi'd assume vga-only14:43
arrrghhhi've never had anyone make such a big deal outta the calib tho -_-14:43
emwewhy isn't it labeled like that then in the text and in the file :P14:43
arrrghhhcuz it's in the RAPH section?14:44
arrrghhhi figure people can handle that.  evidently you can't :P14:44
arrrghhhmost people don't have multiple devices, they stick to one area...14:44
emwelol omg raph section. didn't know you where playing around in taht as well14:45
emwelooked like the rhod post and did not pay attention14:46
arrrghhhit's basically the same post14:46
arrrghhhjust tailored to RAPH14:47
arrrghhhsame with the issues section14:47
arrrghhhi tried to tailor it to RAPH14:47
emweyeah, sorry. i had the rhod thread open just a sec before adn then clicked your link and was like... hm, ok, same post/link ....14:48
emweofc it was not.14:48
arrrghhhhaha14:49
arrrghhhnp14:49
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Kralnemwe: good that you got it16:38
emwehey Kraln! yeah!16:39
emwenice thingy!16:39
Kralntook long enough, eh16:39
emwehappy i didn't pursue any other purchase plans16:39
emwei was just told by another colleque for him a simple CD from US took him 16 weeks16:40
Kralnmiserable16:40
emwewen't through customs. now i believe they are slow ;)16:40
Kralnglad that it works out16:40
emweyah16:40
Kralnhopefully you will be able to put it to good use16:40
emwealready got my SIM in it16:40
emwetopa only being acoustic tester today at work.16:41
emweplaying mp3s16:41
emwe;)16:41
emwedid you disassemble the screen once?16:41
Kralnit had an accident :-(16:41
Kralnwhen replacing the screen, the old glass nicked the lcd display16:41
emweyah, that phys scratch under the glas. on the panel i assume?16:42
emwebut doesn't really hurt overall still good shape16:43
emweis there a foil on it?16:43
KralnI don't remember16:43
KralnI usually put zagg on, but I don't remember if I did on the replacement16:43
emwea little scissor will tell :)16:43
emwewhat did you do that you needed a replacement?16:44
arrrghhhhahaha16:45
arrrghhhemwe wants complete phone history.  provide logs.16:45
arrrghhh:D16:45
emwelol no. just interessted :)16:45
arrrghhhhaha, i'm jk :P16:46
KralnI think I sat on it with my keys in the same pocket16:47
Kralnwasn't sure, I pulled it out and the screen (front) was cracked. lcd was fine16:47
Kralnthen replacing the screen I scratched the lcd16:47
emweouch16:48
emweui, accidently ran rhod with topa boardfile on .35. a sign of incompleteness cause it worked...16:49
emwedamn mtypes16:50
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hyclooks like things are behaving again18:28
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toadlifehyc, are button lights supposed to work with 1328? Auto backlight seems to work really well with regards to the screen. I can see the screen in daylight now. My button lights (keyboard or front) do come on with auto-backlight enabled19:28
toadlife"Right now there appears to be a bug with the ambient light sensor, so the backlights only work if you have manual screen brightness set. "19:29
toadlifeHmm19:29
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manekinekoI assume you also have his userland patches for button lights right?19:31
manekinekoor is 1328 prior to that?19:32
toadlifeI'm running his sys/rootfs19:37
toadlifeand hsi 1328 kernel. He just put 1327 on his page though, so I assume something was wrong with 132819:37
manekinekowell, my comment was probably pretty nonsensical anyway, if your button lights do work ever, then that was unlikely to be the problem19:38
toadlifeYeah they work with auto backlight on19:40
toadlifePhone seems more stable now19:40
manekinekohmm, maybe I should update to his rather than continuing to use my cobbled together mess19:41
toadlifeI was using an old version of his and had been putting all of the pieces in myself too.19:42
manekinekoare you seeing slow wakes with it?19:43
toadlifeWhoops.  I meant my buttons do *not* come on with auto backlight enabled.19:44
toadlifeI have slow wakes but they are bearable.19:44
manekinekoas bad as he was getting earlier? like 1 minute like he was getting earlier?19:44
toadlifeSince disabling scbs the longest I've had to wait is about 5-8 seconds.19:44
manekinekohmm that wasn't a good edit of what I was going to say19:45
manekinekohehe19:45
toadlifeYeah I was getting the 60 second wakes with scbs19:45
manekineko5-8 seconds, sounds about the same as what I get with all non-WistTilt2 kernels19:45
toadlifeJsut booted up with 1327 kernel. Button lights come on now with auto-backlight enabled19:47
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manekinekowhere'd you get 1328 from? don't see it on his page19:54
manekinekojust curious, guess I'll give his 1327 and latest build a spin later tonight19:55
toadlife1328 was on his page earlier. He removed it.19:55
manekinekoah alright19:56
toadlifeI'm sure for good reason ;)19:56
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rpierce99he had a partial scbs implementation posted earlier, I'm guessing he reverted or fixed that20:16
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hycyeah, 1327 has latest scbs patch23:31
rpierce99how's it workin out23:32
hycalso fixes a bug in my keyboard backlight patch23:32
hycI'm still running with scbs disabled23:32
hycscbs adds 5 seconds to both sleepp and wakeup23:33
hycjust not worth it as far as I can tell23:34
rpierce99hm, never had that problem personally23:34
rpierce99still something wrong there23:34
hycanyway, backlights in autobl mode are still weird. seems the key+button are either always on or always off.23:35
hycfeels kind of stupid to me, not to mention  a drain.23:35
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hycand had a weird situation with ringtone on incoming call while sleeping23:46
hyci think it didn't wake up to regular speed first or something23:47
hycwill just have to rip it out and use JB's latest when he posts it.23:47
hyc(audio routing)23:48
rpierce99yeah i dumped audio a few days ago23:48
hycand my notification led is staying green instead of ggoing orange on wakeup. weird.23:50
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