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Recnamoruen | hyc you here? | 01:12 |
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hyc | nope | 01:13 |
Recnamoruen | Well fine | 01:14 |
hyc | I read the logs y'know. just ask whatever you're gonna ask. | 01:14 |
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Recnamoruen | I actually just had a quick question, I moved to your system.ext and everything else. If I move back to actual xdandroid system.ext I'll have to do all the mounts for your ril again correct? | 01:15 |
Recnamoruen | At least until they release frx7 | 01:15 |
hyc | of course | 01:15 |
Recnamoruen | Ah damn. | 01:16 |
Recnamoruen | Welp, I want the default android alerts and ringtnes so to work to work I go | 01:17 |
hyc | what default alerts? | 01:18 |
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Recnamoruen | Well after I installed your system.ext I have no ringtones or notifcation sounds | 01:18 |
Recnamoruen | Unless I'm blind and missed something else that I should have | 01:18 |
hyc | I guess you can copy xdandroid's system/media to mine then | 01:18 |
hyc | I haven't made any changes tho | 01:19 |
hyc | whatever is in the build tree is what goes into the image. | 01:19 |
Recnamoruen | hmmm | 01:19 |
Recnamoruen | wonder if i fucked something up somewhere | 01:19 |
Recnamoruen | I bet I did | 01:20 |
Recnamoruen | time to go look at arrghs full bundle | 01:20 |
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toadlife | hyc, you still getting SODs with your latest kernels? | 01:26 |
toadlife | Love your latest sys build. | 01:26 |
hyc | well... not quite SoD I don't think | 01:26 |
hyc | just very very very slow wakes | 01:26 |
hyc | had a typo in rootfs init.rc, so bluetooth startup was bbotched | 01:27 |
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hyc | just fixed that a few minutes ago | 01:27 |
toadlife | Just got an Orange Light SOD. PLugged in USB and the computer didn't register it so I was deifintely dead | 01:27 |
hyc | ok | 01:27 |
toadlife | I'll just fix it myself | 01:27 |
toadlife | If I can find the typo ;P | 01:27 |
hyc | I had a spontaneous reboot too | 01:28 |
hyc | brcmpatchram_plus | 01:28 |
hyc | should be brcm_patchram_plus | 01:28 |
toadlife | thanks | 01:28 |
hyc | so overall I think this kernel is a failure | 01:28 |
hyc | probably going to have to drop scbs | 01:28 |
toadlife | Yeah I've been getting spontaneous rebootrs the last couple of days. usually after using GPS and Bluetooth | 01:28 |
toadlife | With 1319 from the bluetooth/audi thread though | 01:29 |
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hyc | really, 1319 is failing on you too? | 01:29 |
hyc | emwe just made another patch, I guess I can try pulling it in | 01:29 |
toadlife | It was. I had several reboots and one SOD | 01:29 |
hyc | (autobuild) | 01:29 |
hyc | but his commit message is pretty uncertain :P | 01:30 |
toadlife | Yeah, you said you were losing a ton of time | 01:30 |
hyc | yes | 01:30 |
hyc | doesn't seem to be gradual though | 01:31 |
hyc | one hour sleep, no problem | 01:31 |
hyc | 5 hours later - way off | 01:31 |
hyc | so some special event occurred. no idea where to look. | 01:31 |
toadlife | I ran scbs awhile back and I remember having stability issues, but I have no idea if it was scbs or just a coincidence. I keep my phone plugged in over night so I havnet noticed time loss. | 01:32 |
hyc | hmmm. ok, emwe's commit matches a change WisTilt2 had me try earlier | 01:33 |
hyc | I guess I can pull it in | 01:33 |
hyc | what's your experience of autobacklight so far? | 01:34 |
toadlife | ONly been running your sys for 20 minutes. I'll let you know tomorow | 01:35 |
hyc | ok | 01:35 |
toadlife | Wife had the baby yesterday. I'm taking 2 weeks off so I'll have plenty of time to test. | 01:35 |
toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/sean-peter.jpg | 01:35 |
hyc | Wow, congratulations | 01:35 |
toadlife | thanks | 01:41 |
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stinebd | sorry to burst your bubble, but your wife just had a baby. you're not gonna have ANY time to test. | 01:54 |
slickdaddy96 | jcmsVEN: My work's VPN is Cisco, and I got my xdandroid build to log into their VPN. I had to modify the tun.ko file to get it to work along with downloading the VPNC widget. I have since deleted when I had to load a new build and start fresh getting MMS working, but I think there is thread in the forum where I said how I did it. Worked for me. | 01:56 |
Recnamoruen | What is scbs? | 02:30 |
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Recnamoruen | nevermind | 02:35 |
hyc | hm. new kernel also doesn't awlays set LED to orange on full wakeup. weird. | 02:43 |
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Recnamoruen | hyc what do you consider really long wake up times? | 03:35 |
hyc | more than 10 seconds | 03:38 |
hyc | as long as a minute | 03:38 |
Recnamoruen | How long do you have it asleep before that happens? | 03:38 |
hyc | doesn't seem to matter much. | 03:38 |
hyc | if you let it go to sleep and immediately wake it up, it's usally fast. | 03:39 |
hyc | if it's down for more than a couple seconds, forget it. | 03:39 |
Recnamoruen | Hmm | 03:39 |
Recnamoruen | Cuz AFAIK I'm not having that issue | 03:39 |
hyc | I guess you're lucky then :P | 03:39 |
Recnamoruen | lol | 03:39 |
Recnamoruen | I'm just letting you know | 03:39 |
hyc | what kernel? | 03:40 |
Recnamoruen | yours | 03:40 |
hyc | yes but which version? | 03:40 |
Recnamoruen | the 5/22 | 03:40 |
hyc | give me a build number | 03:40 |
Recnamoruen | lol | 03:40 |
hyc | I've put up 3 kernels today already | 03:40 |
hyc | 1328 is last | 03:41 |
Recnamoruen | 01326? | 03:41 |
hyc | hmmm | 03:41 |
hyc | well you're lucky I guess. | 03:41 |
Recnamoruen | :P | 03:41 |
Recnamoruen | Also ooo | 03:41 |
Recnamoruen | A new kernal | 03:41 |
hyc | all of these are giving me slow wakes. | 03:41 |
Recnamoruen | Also is there an easier way to see your links on your page, I have to keep viewing page source to see them, wanted to know if thats the way u want them | 03:42 |
hyc | no. in fact since you ask, I'm going to make it harder next time. | 03:44 |
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Recnamoruen | Lol | 03:45 |
emwe | heyho | 03:45 |
Recnamoruen | Hello emwe | 03:45 |
emwe | hyc: the recent autobuild commit just disables the arm9 ISR which is assumed to cause a serious amount of more SODs especially on rhod | 03:45 |
Recnamoruen | Well, not sure if im happy about that | 03:46 |
emwe | hi Recnamoruen | 03:46 |
emwe | Kraln: as aarrghhh already told ya, it arrived! | 03:46 |
hyc | emwe: thanks | 03:46 |
emwe | Kraln: nice device! is there a protective foil on the display? | 03:46 |
emwe | hyc: so anything what is "lost" temporarily is the instant cable plug notification. | 03:47 |
hyc | Recnamoruen: I don't do this for you to be happy. I do this for testers that I'm working with directly. usually arrrghhh, rpierce99, and a handful of others. | 03:47 |
emwe | hyc: until this weekend for much much freaking long the RHOD takes to wake. that is very much a RHOD issue in intself. | 03:47 |
hyc | The right thing still is to line on stinebd to get FRX07 out. | 03:47 |
hyc | emwe: yeah... | 03:48 |
emwe | oh my sentence wasn't complete :) | 03:48 |
emwe | topa is way faster with full panel reinit | 03:48 |
hyc | btw, WisTilt2 gave me that patch a few days ago too, but there is a 2nd part of it | 03:48 |
emwe | a 2nd part? | 03:49 |
hyc | mach-msm/pm.c line 338 must be uncommented | 03:49 |
Recnamoruen | Oh, no I apologize if you misunderstood me, I understand that you don't support your build at all, I just wasn't sure if my browser wasn't showing something correctly or if thats how you wanted it to be. | 03:49 |
hyc | emwe: I don't know anything about topa but certainly rhod can be faster | 03:50 |
emwe | hyc: can you do a quick paste of the line? | 03:50 |
hyc | Wistilt2's earlier testing kernels had very fast wakes | 03:50 |
hyc | /* ARM9 puts the irq status here. We need this on wake up to know if some interrupts were triggered. */ | 03:50 |
hyc | writel(0,MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc128); | 03:50 |
emwe | ah shitto | 03:50 |
emwe | damnit | 03:50 |
emwe | so autobuild still screwed? you gave it a try? | 03:51 |
emwe | i just commited untested... | 03:51 |
hyc | actually I don't know, have not tried the autobuild yet | 03:51 |
emwe | i am not yet sure if that register is just a wakereason "info" register or if it actually is interpreted by ARM9 again | 03:51 |
hyc | and I'm not sure how necessary this is. are the interrupts going to be unacknowledged without this write? | 03:51 |
hyc | ok | 03:51 |
emwe | the interrupts are usually acknowledged in the specific VIC registers doen by irq.c | 03:52 |
emwe | so i am not sure bits have to be unset in there at all | 03:52 |
hyc | then perhaps this isn't necessary | 03:52 |
emwe | we'll see | 03:52 |
emwe | btw, jb has redone his libaudio... | 03:52 |
hyc | yeah I saw his tree | 03:53 |
emwe | making it backward compatible with old hack snd_state kernels | 03:53 |
hyc | he says he'll email out the update so I'll wait | 03:53 |
emwe | he contacted me, said after his rebase to autobuild, he got a lot of SODs, then he redid his libaudio and now he can't get them on his RHOD anymore | 03:53 |
emwe | just started yesterday getting .35 into shape for rhod | 03:53 |
hyc | eh? | 03:53 |
emwe | perhaps just coincidence | 03:54 |
hyc | redid libaudio fixed SODs? | 03:54 |
emwe | perhaps it was just coincidence really | 03:54 |
hyc | ok | 03:54 |
emwe | we have the suspicion a SIM plugged causes it | 03:54 |
hyc | Yay, 3.5 for rhod | 03:54 |
hyc | .35 | 03:54 |
emwe | i got the raph and topa running SIMless, all fine | 03:54 |
hyc | nice | 03:54 |
emwe | no SOD wakes up on alarm clock | 03:54 |
emwe | he said he saw a smd_close() when it hang for him | 03:54 |
emwe | i never saw anything like that | 03:55 |
hyc | with .35 we can merge cyanogenmod's kernel fixes | 03:55 |
emwe | pure SOD not unblanking but recognizing cable-plugs according to ramconsole | 03:55 |
hyc | and get their 3.5mm headphone jack driver | 03:55 |
emwe | htc_35mm.c? | 03:55 |
hyc | is that it? I think so | 03:55 |
emwe | 35mmjack or so | 03:55 |
hyc | yeah | 03:55 |
emwe | not sure how that works. i see i2c/microp stuff going on | 03:56 |
hyc | haven't looked in detail, just saw that it existed | 03:56 |
hyc | presumably better than nothing, but dunno what model it's for | 03:57 |
emwe | mahimahi has it over microp. so not sure we have the luck it's done differently. | 03:57 |
hyc | ah | 03:57 |
emwe | but first i need to get that msm_ts up for rhod | 03:58 |
hyc | touchscreen? | 03:58 |
emwe | yes | 03:58 |
hyc | yeah, a bithigher priority... | 03:59 |
emwe | as i only have distinct devices i am not sure we need calibration or not | 03:59 |
emwe | it worsk, just not calibrated | 03:59 |
emwe | and i need to figure keys. can it be phone, start and back keys are managed via keyboard and not as gpio keys? | 04:00 |
emwe | at elast that is what it looks from .27 | 04:00 |
emwe | don't have an idea about that whole keyboard business at all | 04:00 |
hyc | I think somethingl ike that yes | 04:00 |
hyc | maybe only volume and power are gpio | 04:00 |
emwe | vol, pwr and end from the looks. | 04:02 |
emwe | so yeah, another stone in the way - kbd handling via alex' new microp. | 04:02 |
emwe | we'll get to it ;) | 04:02 |
hyc | oh? .35 has a new microp? | 04:03 |
hyc | fun fun fun.... | 04:03 |
emwe | on .27 all is in the two files for all devices handling lights and keyboard | 04:04 |
emwe | that is a bit of a mess if you look at microp-[klt,ksc].c | 04:04 |
emwe | microp-ng act's as a data writer/reader only to which different implementations can hook up to | 04:05 |
emwe | (pardon if not all was technically that right) | 04:05 |
hyc | yeah, I gotcha | 04:05 |
stinebd | ain't releasing frx07 from japan, son | 04:06 |
hyc | lol | 04:06 |
hyc | didn't expect you would ;) | 04:06 |
hyc | just saying; I'd rather not be in the release-building biz, I'll leave it up to you guys. | 04:07 |
hyc | but my build at least provides proof that my patches don't blow anything up :P | 04:08 |
hyc | wow, some folks are never satisfied. now someone is asking for TV OUT support. | 04:09 |
stinebd | i want tv in support | 04:15 |
hyc | point your camera lens at your tv | 04:15 |
emwe | lol | 04:20 |
emwe | hi stinebd. how is it over in japan? | 04:20 |
stinebd | starting to go a bit better now | 04:22 |
stinebd | my issues with breakfast are solved | 04:22 |
stinebd | the issue being that almost no restaurants are open | 04:22 |
emwe | huh? due to the atomic disaster? | 04:22 |
stinebd | culture | 04:22 |
stinebd | when people eat out for breakfast in japan, it's during the commute, so they just pick up quickies that they can inhale on the train | 04:23 |
stinebd | by the time we get out, those places have all switched to selling lunch boxes | 04:23 |
stinebd | so i went to the local supermarket and picked up cereal and eating tools :P | 04:25 |
stinebd | also i should mention the restaurant prices are quite high (as expected) | 04:25 |
stinebd | so i also get dinner boxes from the supermarket instead | 04:26 |
stinebd | it's like eating leftovers | 04:26 |
stinebd | except without the tedious cooking involved | 04:26 |
hyc | lol | 04:26 |
stinebd | for some reason the post office was closed today | 04:28 |
hyc | rapture holiday? | 04:33 |
stinebd | most likely it's due to power shortage | 04:34 |
stinebd | but they didn't have any signs posted about it | 04:34 |
emwe | sounds interessting, really. | 04:36 |
emwe | germany has only 4 atom plants running left. testing out with how many we make it without power shortage... | 04:37 |
emwe | 4 of a total 17 IIRC | 04:37 |
stinebd | i don't understand why germany is doing that. seems like a knee-jerk reaction | 04:37 |
stinebd | they aren't exactly in a disaster-prone area like japan | 04:37 |
emwe | yes, bow to the green party and public demand | 04:38 |
stinebd | a lot of the same nonsense in america too | 04:38 |
emwe | well, they need to get their ass up really. | 04:38 |
stinebd | but of course we're worried about terrorists hitting them and taking out new york | 04:39 |
emwe | i think the pressure here mostly comes from or at least as a side effect for germany not loosing technological lead in renewable energies | 04:39 |
hyc | hm. | 05:13 |
hyc | with current kernel I see spurious USB connect events on shutdown | 05:14 |
hyc | or ... hints of them anyway | 05:14 |
hyc | the USB connected notifications show up multiple times in notification bar while shutdown is proceeding | 05:14 |
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ryannathans | hyc: ping | 09:10 |
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ryannathans | As long as all credits are provided etc. Am I allowed to post a complete build with bluetooth working and audio working (all thanks to hyc by the way!) So that people that would like to test it without the knowledge of putting it all together, also for ease. | 09:13 |
hyc | Please don't. | 09:13 |
ryannathans | Okay ;) | 09:14 |
hyc | JB is going to be posting a new version of the patches in the next day or two. | 09:14 |
ryannathans | ahh sweet | 09:14 |
hyc | And as a general principle, no. | 09:14 |
ryannathans | are there any huge changes between gb tree and gbx0a? | 09:14 |
hyc | People who need everything in an easy all-in-one package generally are useless as testers. | 09:14 |
ryannathans | (only just downloaded it) | 09:15 |
ryannathans | shit, forgot .csv's -.- no wonder it's not working | 09:16 |
hyc | For me, the difficulty of installing a piece of test code is a necessary barrier to entry. It helps ensures that only qualified testers will get involved. | 09:16 |
hyc | it helps make sure that useful test feedback comes in. | 09:16 |
ryannathans | I see, how do I install this brcm_patchram_plus? | 09:17 |
hyc | People who are familiar with the system will have little trouble getting it going, and they'll be experienced enough to recognize when something is wrong. | 09:17 |
hyc | Anyone else would just waste time saying "it doesn't work" without providing usable details. | 09:17 |
hyc | and if you have to ask that, then you've disqualified yourself from the test. | 09:18 |
ryannathans | How much I love you guys | 09:18 |
ryannathans | it's a simple drag and drop isn't it? | 09:18 |
ryannathans | or just running it? | 09:19 |
hyc | I don't use guis... | 09:19 |
ryannathans | install or patch? | 09:19 |
hyc | nothing is drag and drop as far as I'm concerned | 09:19 |
ryannathans | woot i think i installed it | 09:23 |
ryannathans | Read default bdaddr of 00:23:76:75:78:40 means it installed yeah? | 09:24 |
ryannathans | or do i just move it to a particular dir | 09:25 |
ryannathans | *crosses fingers* | 09:34 |
ryannathans | ARGHHH The bloody bluetooth button comes on but for longer than normal, then it goes back | 09:45 |
ryannathans | D: | 09:45 |
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ryannathans | rpierce99: have you tried bluetooth yet? | 09:59 |
rpierce99 | not really | 10:00 |
rpierce99 | i installed it all | 10:00 |
rpierce99 | but never really tested it | 10:00 |
rpierce99 | i have since uninstalled it | 10:00 |
ryannathans | *cries and runs for the hills* | 10:03 |
ryannathans | I have done it twice now, im sure im doing it right, and damn bluetooth still wont switch on | 10:03 |
rpierce99 | you've tried it with both of the HCD files? | 10:03 |
ryannathans | WOOT | 10:03 |
ryannathans | IT TURED ON | 10:03 |
ryannathans | I spammed the bluetooth checkbox and for some reason it started working | 10:04 |
ryannathans | WIN. | 10:04 |
ryannathans | time to test | 10:04 |
stinebd | you guys would not believe shibuya | 10:05 |
rpierce99 | i have no idea what that is, so i'm guessing you are either right or wrong | 10:06 |
stinebd | shibuya? | 10:06 |
rpierce99 | googling it currently | 10:06 |
rpierce99 | ah, a place | 10:06 |
rpierce99 | got it | 10:06 |
ryannathans | im guessing a place | 10:06 |
ryannathans | aww beat me | 10:06 |
stinebd | home to the busiest pedestrian crossing in the world | 10:07 |
stinebd | it's like times square on new years, but every day | 10:07 |
rpierce99 | did you visit the dog statue? | 10:07 |
stinebd | probably | 10:07 |
stinebd | i went out that exit at the station | 10:07 |
rpierce99 | sounds like Shubya 109 is where you want to go | 10:09 |
rpierce99 | a popular and trendy place for mostly Japanese young women to shop. | 10:09 |
stinebd | it's gone | 10:09 |
rpierce99 | damn you wikipedia for failing me again | 10:10 |
stinebd | it's just part of the tokyu now | 10:10 |
hyc | ok I am officially not a fan of scbs. battery drains faster and clock loses time continually. | 10:12 |
rpierce99 | WisTilt2 said he found the cause of the drift, but no one was going to like the patch | 10:12 |
hyc | ugh | 10:12 |
hyc | i would still like to see an explanation | 10:13 |
hyc | this is totally unusable | 10:14 |
ryannathans | hyc: bluetooth is orgasmic | 10:14 |
rpierce99 | neither clock drift nor slightly faster battery drain accounts for that statement, what makes it unusable | 10:15 |
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hyc | and honest to god, there are only 100 increments of the battery level. shouldn't need to poll for data every 5 seconds. | 10:15 |
hyc | actually yes, the clock drift makes a lot of the system unusable. | 10:16 |
hyc | clock, calendar ,alarms, appointments | 10:16 |
rpierce99 | clock drift is easily fixed with an app from the market | 10:17 |
hyc | call logs... | 10:17 |
hyc | that's bogus | 10:17 |
hyc | more layers of bandaids | 10:17 |
hyc | instead of actually fixing the problem | 10:17 |
rpierce99 | i don't disagree, but calling it unusable because of drift is overdramatic | 10:18 |
hyc | ok, itis easily worked around. not fixed. | 10:18 |
rpierce99 | agreed | 10:19 |
hyc | anyway this isn't simple drift, which implies unstable reference clock. it is always lag, which indicates lost timer interrupts. | 10:20 |
ryannathans | hyc: is force_cdma=1 needed with your RIL? | 10:20 |
hyc | i dunno ryannathans, why don't you read the writeup. | 10:21 |
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ryannathans | does 1st post still apply to ril2? | 10:23 |
hyc | and any time you lose interrupts, there's bound to be something else you're hosing too. you just haven't discovered it yet. | 10:23 |
ryannathans | scratch above comment ^^ | 10:23 |
ryannathans | dude it doesn't say -.- | 10:24 |
ryannathans | was reading wrong post | 10:24 |
ryannathans | sweet, updated my guide | 10:28 |
hyc | I always document every relevant fact in my work. If you're asking questions like that you're not paying attention. | 10:28 |
hyc | people who don't pay attention go on my ignore list. | 10:29 |
ryannathans | Appologies. | 10:29 |
ryannathans | I have exams soon and have been doing alot of late night studying - it's really getting to me | 10:29 |
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hyc | Apparently it's possible to run the gingerbread framework on top of an otherwise-froyo build http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871869 | 10:35 |
stinebd | lol my bank just got pissy with me | 10:35 |
hyc | might be an interesting approach | 10:35 |
stinebd | halfway through my trip and they just realized i'm not in the country | 10:36 |
hyc | lol | 10:36 |
ryannathans | fail | 10:36 |
stinebd | and the chick is yelling at me for not filing a foreign travel something or other | 10:36 |
stinebd | and it's not on their site anywhere | 10:36 |
hyc | wow. they've never yelled at me. just asked "please tell us in the future" | 10:37 |
stinebd | i don't even know who i would tell | 10:37 |
hyc | I actually did phone them on my next trip, took like 1 minute, no big deal | 10:37 |
ryannathans | Complain and tell them to get better customer service | 10:37 |
hyc | and never bothered again after that | 10:37 |
stinebd | no way | 10:37 |
stinebd | at least she's american | 10:37 |
ryannathans | Touche | 10:38 |
stinebd | i'll let them call me again next time, i don't really care | 10:38 |
ryannathans | Ahh well, it's getting late again, night guys. | 10:38 |
stinebd | i definitely won't remember or care enough to let them know | 10:38 |
stinebd | night | 10:38 |
ryannathans | what is it of their business anyway? | 10:38 |
hyc | they track you for fraud prevention | 10:38 |
stinebd | well it's a check card so i'm guessing they have to do it for fraud prevention | 10:39 |
hyc | it's saved my ass a couple times. | 10:39 |
ryannathans | Mmm I guess so | 10:39 |
stinebd | then again my credit card bank hasn't complained at all yet | 10:39 |
stinebd | and i put quite a bit more on that | 10:39 |
hyc | they saw I paid for a parking structure in one part of town, while someone else made a purchase on my account in a different city. | 10:39 |
ryannathans | Heh, good luck with the rest of your trip, im off. | 10:39 |
rpierce99 | if i were the bank I wouldn't bitch at you, I'd just turn that shit off, if you have a problem, well you should have called | 10:40 |
hyc | yeah they usually do both | 10:40 |
stinebd | anyway at least i found out about the call before going to the atm and having it scream japanese expletives at me | 10:41 |
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hyc | lol | 10:41 |
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arrrghhh | hyc, i know that 'fix' isn't really a fix | 11:27 |
arrrghhh | but it allows GSM folk to boot at least... | 11:27 |
hyc | I guess. | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | lol | 11:28 |
hyc | boot up as a non-phone. | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | yup | 11:28 |
hyc | great.... | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | since i don't have any way to test why GSM is failing, that's really all i can do | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | is relay info from other fewls. | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | i would ask you what's going on, but i know you don't want to mess with NAND yet :P | 11:29 |
arrrghhh | i figured you'd want to get rid of WinMo more than anybody hahaha | 11:29 |
hyc | heh... | 11:29 |
hyc | finding out would mean switching back to my G1 as my primary phone | 11:30 |
hyc | which admittedly works perfectly | 11:30 |
arrrghhh | heh | 11:30 |
arrrghhh | yeayea | 11:30 |
arrrghhh | you and your native Android device. | 11:30 |
hyc | :P | 11:30 |
hyc | hey, it's gone through a lot of the exact same problems | 11:30 |
hyc | they just got solved a year ago | 11:31 |
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arrrghhh | really | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | that's funny | 11:31 |
hyc | G1 hasn't been supported since eclair | 11:31 |
hyc | Google dropped support | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | orly | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | damn Google | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | not supporting ancient hardware :P | 11:31 |
hyc | yeah. everything since then has been developed by the community | 11:31 |
hyc | and they have the same issues moving to gingerbread that we have | 11:31 |
hyc | no GPS library, etc. | 11:32 |
hyc | except they've already written shims to make it work | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | i think stine wanted to rewrite it | 11:32 |
hyc | whatever | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if their shims would port to our junk. | 11:32 |
hyc | maybe. i don't see why not. | 11:32 |
hyc | it's from the gingerbread API to the froyo API | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | oh right, you hate gb. | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | :P | 11:32 |
hyc | as long as out libraries interface to the same API the same shim ought to work | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | i'll find a way to trick you into working on gb yet. | 11:33 |
hyc | it has only just barely started working stably on G1 | 11:33 |
hyc | there were still issues with memory leaks in surfaceflinger, other stuff | 11:33 |
hyc | GB was not ready for primetime | 11:33 |
hyc | maybe it's ok by now, I've stopped watching the G1 forums | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | heh | 11:34 |
hyc | but the one thing I hate is working with too many unknowns | 11:34 |
hyc | and up till now there'd be no way to know if a bug was userland or kernel | 11:35 |
hyc | once GB settles down you can have a better idea of where you stand | 11:35 |
hyc | I also don't like leaving things in a mess. I like things to be in a better state after I touch them. | 11:36 |
hyc | Foroy is just about good now. | 11:37 |
hyc | Froyo | 11:37 |
toadlife | arrrghhh's phone hates Froyo. | 11:41 |
arrrghhh | Froyo is almost done. | 11:41 |
arrrghhh | most of the things that remain effect both systems | 11:42 |
hyc | ooo. stopping the scbs daemon helped my slow wakes and my clock drift. | 11:42 |
toadlife | Hmmm. Maybe the instability I had while running scbs was caused by scbs | 11:42 |
arrrghhh | lol | 11:42 |
arrrghhh | that's crazy talk. | 11:42 |
hyc | gonna axe that from my build. I can live with an inaccurate battery gauge. | 11:43 |
toadlife | You never know when you're testing three things at any one time | 11:43 |
toadlife | Can you leave the kernel parts in your kernels? | 11:43 |
hyc | I guess so | 11:43 |
hyc | why? | 11:43 |
toadlife | I might want to keep running it. ;P | 11:44 |
toadlife | I'm a gluton for punishment | 11:44 |
hyc | scbs might be a good idea but it seriously needs a better implementation | 11:44 |
toadlife | You can set the data collection interval for scbs. Maybe jacking up the interval might help with the sleep issues. | 11:45 |
hyc | doesn't matter | 11:45 |
hyc | the fact that running it causes issues means it's doing something wrong inside the kernel | 11:45 |
toadlife | hmmm | 11:46 |
rpierce99 | WisTilt2 has been running SCBS on 15 phones for about a month and none of them have had any stability issues | 11:46 |
rpierce99 | when combined with this 4/15 kernel | 11:46 |
rpierce99 | s/this/his/ | 11:47 |
hyc | yeah well, nobody else has his 4/15 code, or not in a runnable state. | 11:47 |
toadlife | That doesn't help much if his patched will never make it in | 11:47 |
hyc | his original PM patches don't apply to the main tree | 11:47 |
rpierce99 | his 4/15 test kernel is posted | 11:48 |
rpierce99 | it's what i'm running because wakes are FAST | 11:48 |
hyc | what, the binary? | 11:48 |
arrrghhh | indeed, i still run it. | 11:48 |
arrrghhh | yea | 11:48 |
rpierce99 | sorry you said code | 11:48 |
rpierce99 | yes | 11:48 |
hyc | yeah but that's no good if you want audio, backlights, etc etc... | 11:48 |
arrrghhh | eh who needs those things. | 11:48 |
arrrghhh | :P | 11:48 |
toadlife | Yeah I'm enjoying proper audio and BT. I communte and BT is a must | 11:49 |
arrrghhh | i just don't talk on the phone when i'm driving | 11:49 |
arrrghhh | problem solved. | 11:49 |
arrrghhh | i'm not a very important person tho :P | 11:49 |
toadlife | hehe | 11:49 |
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hyc | I see what he's doing... | 11:52 |
hyc | in the ioctl to retrieve data he just waits until data is ready to consume | 11:53 |
hyc | should be using mutexes so the context can actually go to sleep | 11:53 |
hyc | he's using spinlocks. sigh. | 11:53 |
hyc | collecting data like this is kinda silly. should just collect it on-demand from userland and do away with all of the kernel-side timers | 11:58 |
hyc | and locks | 11:58 |
arrrghhh | this should be fun | 11:59 |
arrrghhh | post it to the ML | 11:59 |
arrrghhh | :P | 11:59 |
hyc | I'll think about it | 11:59 |
hyc | I also don't like the fact that userland has to execute every 5 seconds | 11:59 |
hyc | it's a freakin' battery. we'll see it's value from 0 to 100. | 12:00 |
arrrghhh | yea | 12:00 |
arrrghhh | i think he got a little *too* granular | 12:00 |
hyc | Over the span of 72 hours that means it should change one point every 45 minutes. | 12:00 |
hyc | Therefore you should only need to sample it once every 22 minutes. | 12:01 |
hyc | To be conservative, once every 10 minutes would be plenty. once a minute would already be overkill. | 12:02 |
arrrghhh | heh | 12:02 |
rpierce99 | generating an accurate model would take hundreds of times longer wouldn't it? | 12:02 |
arrrghhh | i think he was tryin to account for severe drain | 12:02 |
hyc | then maybe use an adaptive model, sample sooner if the change is large | 12:03 |
rpierce99 | doesn't work with the model generation algo | 12:03 |
hyc | but again don't go overboard otherwise the sampling becomes a significant part of the drain | 12:03 |
hyc | "accurate model" - it's way overkill | 12:04 |
rpierce99 | i think it needs to be broken into 2 parts, maybe leave it at 5 seconds for the model generation portion, then when you have a solid model switch it to much more infrequent polling to check the current level | 12:04 |
arrrghhh | i think it needs to be automated more | 12:04 |
hyc | agreed | 12:06 |
arrrghhh | so the end-user doesn't need to create a model | 12:06 |
arrrghhh | problem is, determining when to create a model | 12:06 |
hyc | also keep in mind that userland already tracks battery usage stats | 12:06 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 12:07 |
hyc | with the current code, if you replace the battery you'll have to re-do all the model generation | 12:08 |
arrrghhh | yup | 12:09 |
arrrghhh | and in theory every few months you should redo the model i would think | 12:09 |
arrrghhh | as the battery ages | 12:09 |
hyc | ugh. probably. | 12:09 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:09 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan Ho! | 12:16 |
toadlife | How about just fixing the original battery code so it works? | 12:17 |
toadlife | Like it does in WinMo ;P | 12:17 |
arrrghhh | zomg | 12:18 |
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xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:18 |
arrrghhh | lol did he donate twice? | 12:18 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:18 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 12:18 |
rpierce99 | indecisive much? | 12:19 |
toadlife | Yeah, yeah. "WinMo" and "Just Works" don;t usually go together | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | thrice? | 12:19 |
toadlife | Clicked the post buttom three times? | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | i guess | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | he's only listed once on the donor list | 12:19 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan Ho! | 12:19 |
toadlife | OUr users at work do that with the tocketing system. Put in duplicate cases all the time | 12:20 |
rpierce99 | lolz | 12:20 |
toadlife | LOL | 12:20 |
toadlife | Two double clicks on the post button from Stan | 12:21 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:21 |
rpierce99 | hahahhahaha | 12:22 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:27 |
helicopter88 | omg 6 times donating? | 12:28 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:31 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:32 |
helicopter88 | 8? | 12:32 |
hyc | his paypal account is going to love him | 12:32 |
helicopter88 | lol | 12:33 |
helicopter88 | i want to see 10 donations | 12:33 |
helicopter88 | Stan H. other two times please :) | 12:33 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:34 |
rpierce99 | stan h is in this room and is screwing with us :P | 12:34 |
hyc | they're 10 cents each | 12:35 |
helicopter88 | lol | 12:35 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:35 |
helicopter88 | he donated 1$ in total | 12:35 |
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hyc | lol | 12:35 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:36 |
helicopter88 | wtf | 12:36 |
helicopter88 | where's the donor list,i want to check if it's listed 11 times | 12:36 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:37 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:38 |
helicopter88 | imho xdandroid got crazy | 12:38 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:41 |
helicopter88 | i checked,last donation was 0.01$ | 12:41 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:42 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:43 |
hyc | he really is screwing with us :P | 12:44 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:44 |
helicopter88 | he's donating 1 cent lol | 12:44 |
helicopter88 | why you would do 18 donations of 1 cent | 12:45 |
rpierce99 | either that or he is trying to find a weakness to exploit | 12:45 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Stan H.! | 12:46 |
helicopter88 | xdandroid,please stop spamming :) | 12:46 |
hyc | I'm going to change the scbs service in my rootfs to disabled by default | 12:47 |
hyc | if you want it you can issue "start scbs" yourself | 12:47 |
toadlife | Maybe Stan is angry at xdandroid devs and he's being snarky. arrrghhh probably told him he was a failure at life. | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | meh | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | he probably is. | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | but he's slowly giving us money, so w00t? | 12:54 |
toadlife | hyc, sounds good | 12:54 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, how's 3.5mm goin? :PO | 13:04 |
arrrghhh | er | 13:04 |
arrrghhh | :P | 13:04 |
emwe | tsts | 13:04 |
emwe | ts and keyboard first i'd say | 13:05 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: those slow wakes are really slow wakes. this is ridiculously long compared to topa. | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | really? | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | it's that bad compared to topa? | 13:06 |
emwe | seriously | 13:07 |
rpierce99 | topa doesn't have collapse does it? | 13:07 |
emwe | it does | 13:07 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99, AFAIK it does | 13:07 |
emwe | was the first | 13:07 |
rpierce99 | gotcha | 13:07 |
emwe | (C) Markinus | 13:07 |
arrrghhh | heh | 13:07 |
emwe | let me first get the basic things setup, just did a little yet. | 13:07 |
emwe | and just came home. | 13:08 |
arrrghhh | oh are you getting .35 up on RHOD? | 13:08 |
emwe | started a bit on sunday yes | 13:08 |
arrrghhh | nice. | 13:08 |
emwe | just need to fix ts calibration | 13:08 |
emwe | it's a bit off, and i have the suspicion we need that dynamic calibration which msm_ts driver doesn't support yet. | 13:09 |
emwe | which i think was hacked into tssc-manager on .27 | 13:09 |
emwe | s/hacked/coded | 13:09 |
emwe | supper time. self made sushi from the weekend. laters. | 13:11 |
arrrghhh | heh | 13:13 |
arrrghhh | cya | 13:13 |
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hyc | recnamoruen: something flaky with the directory structure of the system.ext2 | 13:40 |
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hyc | it's making the mediascanner hit errors | 13:41 |
hyc | had to patch libmedia.so to fix the error | 13:42 |
hyc | anyway, that's why your ringtones weren't appearing | 13:42 |
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toadlife | Gee. Only took about 60 seconds for the phone to wake up that time. :\ | 14:05 |
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hyc | yeah, that's what I've been talking about | 14:05 |
rpierce99 | hyc, jonpry pinged you in htc-linux | 14:06 |
hyc | thx | 14:06 |
toadlife | Yeah. I've had enough. | 14:06 |
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hyc | toadlife: you never had this trouble with the original scbs kernel did you? super slow wakes? | 14:16 |
hyc | it's always possible I botched the kernel patch | 14:16 |
emwe | the original patch had quickwakeup msm_rtc-7x01a.c timer.c and pm.c patches along with htc_battery_smem.c and scbs.c itself | 14:17 |
hyc | yes | 14:18 |
hyc | but jonproy's pm.c patches were already merged into mainline | 14:18 |
toadlife | hyc, no. When originally tested scbs, the problems I had were system stability, not slow waking | 14:27 |
toadlife | But that was wistilt2's kernel which, as we all know, has magical waking abilities. | 14:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:28 |
arrrghhh | it does | 14:28 |
arrrghhh | magic | 14:28 |
toadlife | yes, it does. i miss them. | 14:28 |
arrrghhh | i still use it :P | 14:29 |
hyc | apparently jonpry sent me old code | 14:30 |
hyc | sigh | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:30 |
emwe | arrrghhh: what kernels from the past are recommended from redoing ts-calib again? | 14:31 |
emwe | s/from/for | 14:31 |
arrrghhh | i found the newest i was able to calib on | 14:31 |
arrrghhh | 1320 | 14:31 |
arrrghhh | are you not able to? | 14:31 |
emwe | i was yesterday on rhod .. had to be quick though | 14:31 |
emwe | doesn't work out on raph... screwed it's file due to being used on rhod | 14:32 |
emwe | had to take that sdcard | 14:32 |
emwe | now found another old one from the old tattoo of my gf | 14:32 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:32 |
arrrghhh | the hand-me-downs from your gf | 14:32 |
toadlife | Sounds familiar. ;P | 14:32 |
emwe | lol | 14:32 |
toadlife | all of my sdcards have been hand-me-downs from my wife | 14:33 |
emwe | but i have more electromagnetic radion! | 14:33 |
emwe | radiation... wtf. | 14:33 |
arrrghhh | hahha | 14:33 |
emwe | going for a february kernel | 14:33 |
arrrghhh | zomg | 14:34 |
arrrghhh | are you on your raph or your rhod? | 14:34 |
emwe | raph. just wan't to get it runnable again | 14:34 |
emwe | as the stock .27 tester | 14:34 |
arrrghhh | ah | 14:34 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:34 |
emwe | i backed up the sd, but not ts-calibration. *bangshead* | 14:35 |
arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 14:35 |
arrrghhh | i have a ts-calib for raph posted on my thread | 14:35 |
arrrghhh | if you want to just try to use that | 14:35 |
emwe | ohkies. FRX06 one? | 14:36 |
arrrghhh | yes | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | should be in both threads in fact :P | 14:37 |
emwe | omg. i feel like a beginner not wanting to read. a shame... | 14:39 |
emwe | only a blackstone one there | 14:39 |
emwe | checking the raph forums.. | 14:40 |
arrrghhh | well that's where it would be | 14:40 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 14:40 |
emwe | ah lol that 4th post?! | 14:41 |
* emwe runs | 14:41 | |
arrrghhh | it's in the first post! wtf. | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | damnit man. | 14:42 |
emwe | ey, now i am totally confused. it's usable for wvga and vga | 14:42 |
emwe | = | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | i'd assume vga-only | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | i've never had anyone make such a big deal outta the calib tho -_- | 14:43 |
emwe | why isn't it labeled like that then in the text and in the file :P | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | cuz it's in the RAPH section? | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | i figure people can handle that. evidently you can't :P | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | most people don't have multiple devices, they stick to one area... | 14:44 |
emwe | lol omg raph section. didn't know you where playing around in taht as well | 14:45 |
emwe | looked like the rhod post and did not pay attention | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | it's basically the same post | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | just tailored to RAPH | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | same with the issues section | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | i tried to tailor it to RAPH | 14:47 |
emwe | yeah, sorry. i had the rhod thread open just a sec before adn then clicked your link and was like... hm, ok, same post/link .... | 14:48 |
emwe | ofc it was not. | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | haha | 14:49 |
arrrghhh | np | 14:49 |
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Kraln | emwe: good that you got it | 16:38 |
emwe | hey Kraln! yeah! | 16:39 |
emwe | nice thingy! | 16:39 |
Kraln | took long enough, eh | 16:39 |
emwe | happy i didn't pursue any other purchase plans | 16:39 |
emwe | i was just told by another colleque for him a simple CD from US took him 16 weeks | 16:40 |
Kraln | miserable | 16:40 |
emwe | wen't through customs. now i believe they are slow ;) | 16:40 |
Kraln | glad that it works out | 16:40 |
emwe | yah | 16:40 |
Kraln | hopefully you will be able to put it to good use | 16:40 |
emwe | already got my SIM in it | 16:40 |
emwe | topa only being acoustic tester today at work. | 16:41 |
emwe | playing mp3s | 16:41 |
emwe | ;) | 16:41 |
emwe | did you disassemble the screen once? | 16:41 |
Kraln | it had an accident :-( | 16:41 |
Kraln | when replacing the screen, the old glass nicked the lcd display | 16:41 |
emwe | yah, that phys scratch under the glas. on the panel i assume? | 16:42 |
emwe | but doesn't really hurt overall still good shape | 16:43 |
emwe | is there a foil on it? | 16:43 |
Kraln | I don't remember | 16:43 |
Kraln | I usually put zagg on, but I don't remember if I did on the replacement | 16:43 |
emwe | a little scissor will tell :) | 16:43 |
emwe | what did you do that you needed a replacement? | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | emwe wants complete phone history. provide logs. | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | :D | 16:45 |
emwe | lol no. just interessted :) | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | haha, i'm jk :P | 16:46 |
Kraln | I think I sat on it with my keys in the same pocket | 16:47 |
Kraln | wasn't sure, I pulled it out and the screen (front) was cracked. lcd was fine | 16:47 |
Kraln | then replacing the screen I scratched the lcd | 16:47 |
emwe | ouch | 16:48 |
emwe | ui, accidently ran rhod with topa boardfile on .35. a sign of incompleteness cause it worked... | 16:49 |
emwe | damn mtypes | 16:50 |
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hyc | looks like things are behaving again | 18:28 |
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toadlife | hyc, are button lights supposed to work with 1328? Auto backlight seems to work really well with regards to the screen. I can see the screen in daylight now. My button lights (keyboard or front) do come on with auto-backlight enabled | 19:28 |
toadlife | "Right now there appears to be a bug with the ambient light sensor, so the backlights only work if you have manual screen brightness set. " | 19:29 |
toadlife | Hmm | 19:29 |
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manekineko | I assume you also have his userland patches for button lights right? | 19:31 |
manekineko | or is 1328 prior to that? | 19:32 |
toadlife | I'm running his sys/rootfs | 19:37 |
toadlife | and hsi 1328 kernel. He just put 1327 on his page though, so I assume something was wrong with 1328 | 19:37 |
manekineko | well, my comment was probably pretty nonsensical anyway, if your button lights do work ever, then that was unlikely to be the problem | 19:38 |
toadlife | Yeah they work with auto backlight on | 19:40 |
toadlife | Phone seems more stable now | 19:40 |
manekineko | hmm, maybe I should update to his rather than continuing to use my cobbled together mess | 19:41 |
toadlife | I was using an old version of his and had been putting all of the pieces in myself too. | 19:42 |
manekineko | are you seeing slow wakes with it? | 19:43 |
toadlife | Whoops. I meant my buttons do *not* come on with auto backlight enabled. | 19:44 |
toadlife | I have slow wakes but they are bearable. | 19:44 |
manekineko | as bad as he was getting earlier? like 1 minute like he was getting earlier? | 19:44 |
toadlife | Since disabling scbs the longest I've had to wait is about 5-8 seconds. | 19:44 |
manekineko | hmm that wasn't a good edit of what I was going to say | 19:45 |
manekineko | hehe | 19:45 |
toadlife | Yeah I was getting the 60 second wakes with scbs | 19:45 |
manekineko | 5-8 seconds, sounds about the same as what I get with all non-WistTilt2 kernels | 19:45 |
toadlife | Jsut booted up with 1327 kernel. Button lights come on now with auto-backlight enabled | 19:47 |
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manekineko | where'd you get 1328 from? don't see it on his page | 19:54 |
manekineko | just curious, guess I'll give his 1327 and latest build a spin later tonight | 19:55 |
toadlife | 1328 was on his page earlier. He removed it. | 19:55 |
manekineko | ah alright | 19:56 |
toadlife | I'm sure for good reason ;) | 19:56 |
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rpierce99 | he had a partial scbs implementation posted earlier, I'm guessing he reverted or fixed that | 20:16 |
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hyc | yeah, 1327 has latest scbs patch | 23:31 |
rpierce99 | how's it workin out | 23:32 |
hyc | also fixes a bug in my keyboard backlight patch | 23:32 |
hyc | I'm still running with scbs disabled | 23:32 |
hyc | scbs adds 5 seconds to both sleepp and wakeup | 23:33 |
hyc | just not worth it as far as I can tell | 23:34 |
rpierce99 | hm, never had that problem personally | 23:34 |
rpierce99 | still something wrong there | 23:34 |
hyc | anyway, backlights in autobl mode are still weird. seems the key+button are either always on or always off. | 23:35 |
hyc | feels kind of stupid to me, not to mention a drain. | 23:35 |
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hyc | and had a weird situation with ringtone on incoming call while sleeping | 23:46 |
hyc | i think it didn't wake up to regular speed first or something | 23:47 |
hyc | will just have to rip it out and use JB's latest when he posts it. | 23:47 |
hyc | (audio routing) | 23:48 |
rpierce99 | yeah i dumped audio a few days ago | 23:48 |
hyc | and my notification led is staying green instead of ggoing orange on wakeup. weird. | 23:50 |
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