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| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol look at this kbd pic | 00:22 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess that's from a RAPH... | 00:22 |
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| arrrghhh | oh well.. sleepytime | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | peace out | 00:26 |
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| hyc | arrrghhh: new kernel on my page with charging fixes... | 05:13 |
| toadlife | yay | 05:31 |
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| ryannathans | arrrghhh: I was trolling before and clearly someone took the bait :P | 07:37 |
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| hyc | heh. got a 528 in quadrant. the result viewer says this beats a Nexus One. | 08:59 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, i saw the ML and the logs - USB seems good so far :D | 09:46 |
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| ryannathans | would you guys reccomend latest autobuild or wistilt2's old-ish test kernel? | 10:21 |
| ryannathans | I will be heading out for the day so I can't download the other if it's no good | 10:22 |
| ryannathans | Or I could just put both on my device... xD | 10:23 |
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| arrrghhh | ryannathans, don't care | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | use what works for you | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, what's up mtae | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | mate* | 10:34 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: just came home ;) | 10:35 |
| emwe | looking into hycs battery patch now. | 10:35 |
| emwe | one of the many... | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea, you've got a new guy to keep up with :P | 10:36 |
| emwe | applying .27 patches is another thing to keep up with ;) | 10:38 |
| emwe | btw, just held a rhod100 in my hands some minutes ago... | 10:38 |
| emwe | old company phone now used by one of the ITO stuff | 10:39 |
| emwe | staff | 10:39 |
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| arrrghhh | nice | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | not bad eh? :P | 10:43 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: what is it that makes the tethering app (or system component) show up if i plug the raph into usb on frx06? | 10:58 |
| emwe | that always the case? | 10:58 |
| emwe | wtf... 05-10 16:58:08.310 1865 1951 W System.err: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Textures with dimensions2048x32 are larger than the maximum supported size 1024x1024 | 10:59 |
| emwe | opening up frx06 market on raph. | 10:59 |
| emwe | known? | 10:59 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:01 |
| arrrghhh | nothing shows up for me | 11:01 |
| arrrghhh | just shows that usb is connected in the notification bar | 11:01 |
| emwe | hmhmhm | 11:03 |
| emwe | i have that blue tethering thingy up there | 11:03 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 11:04 |
| arrrghhh | i always have to enable it manually | 11:04 |
| arrrghhh | which i want to figure out a way to enable it easily | 11:04 |
| emwe | hm it says it's in tether possibility mode so to say and i can quickly hit it and enable wifi or usb tether. | 11:04 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 11:05 |
| arrrghhh | gimmie that feature :P | 11:05 |
| emwe | so, this night, i think i got the raph drained within 6 hours | 11:05 |
| arrrghhh | sounds average | 11:05 |
| emwe | ? | 11:05 |
| arrrghhh | 6hr drain | 11:05 |
| emwe | i get to idle around for more then 24 hours | 11:05 |
| emwe | with wifi only though | 11:05 |
| arrrghhh | no... | 11:06 |
| arrrghhh | without panel collapse? | 11:06 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think it would last more than 6-7 hrs | 11:07 |
| emwe | the panel bl goes off | 11:07 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 11:07 |
| emwe | but only when unplugged | 11:07 |
| emwe | strangeness... never looked at it | 11:07 |
| emwe | but i think the panel code is a mess | 11:07 |
| emwe | iirc | 11:07 |
| emwe | so that raph lasts way longer then the topa. ofc, it's rather a testing device doing nothing but wifi + gmail | 11:08 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: any gmaps bug known like i posted above? | 11:10 |
| arrrghhh | gmaps? | 11:10 |
| arrrghhh | i know it's google maps | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't see any bug on gmaps above tho :P | 11:11 |
| emwe | 16:59 <emwe> wtf... 05-10 16:58:08.310 1865 1951 W System.err: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Textures with dimensions2048x32 are larger than the maximum supported size 1024x1024 | 11:11 |
| emwe | raph .27+frx06 that is | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | oh i thought that was a Market issue | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | <emwe> opening up frx06 market on raph. | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | so that's a maps issue? | 11:12 |
| emwe | ouch | 11:12 |
| emwe | sorry, maps | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | what do you see on the screen? | 11:12 |
| emwe | welcome popup and then crash | 11:12 |
| emwe | with europe in the background. | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 11:12 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not aware of any RAPH issues with maps | 11:13 |
| emwe | build 5411 of gmaps | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:13 |
| emwe | hm. ogl library issue from the looks | 11:13 |
| emwe | we'll see | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | k | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | gotta reboot, brb | 11:13 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, ping | 12:28 |
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| toadlife | yay usb charging! | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | ah crap i can't adb shell and tether. d'oh. | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, pppd is now in /system/lib right? | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | er | 12:36 |
| toadlife | dunno. I can check... | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | /system/bin | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | would you mind? | 12:36 |
| toadlife | yeah. pppd is there | 12:37 |
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| toadlife | I'm on hyc's system/rootfs | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | good | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | that should be where we plan on moving :D | 12:37 |
| toadlife | Phone randomly rebooted on the way to work. It was plugged into the car charger and I wasn't touching it. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 12:38 |
| toadlife | Logs don't show much, but I saved them anyway | 12:38 |
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/debuglogs_20110510154302reboot.tar.gz | 12:38 |
| toadlife | LMS vendors are giving presentations at our campus today. Ever use "EdVance360", or "Desire2Learn" or "Blackboard"? | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | learning management systems? | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | no | 12:41 |
| toadlife | Yeah, learning management | 12:41 |
| raymonddull | sorry guys,but no more tp2 test phone here,I sold it. | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 12:41 |
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| arrrghhh | raymonddull, eh? what'd you get? | 12:42 |
| toadlife | How much did you get for it? | 12:42 |
| raymonddull | $125 | 12:42 |
| toadlife | Not bad | 12:42 |
| raymonddull | and I'm going to be selling my dinc too,I'm going to deal with my intercept till the evo3d comes out | 12:42 |
| raymonddull | I'm preparing | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | eh, i <3 my kbd too much. | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | not planning on upgrading any time soon. | 12:43 |
| toadlife | Well, since I'm and sysadmin for the Blackboard server I should probably check in at the LMS presentations. later | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, enjoy | 12:44 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, David Marseilles, who says: Thanks for all the work. Will donate more when 3.5mm jack functionality hits, FWIW. | 13:37 |
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| toadlife | Wow. Dolphin browser rocks. Wish I had found it earlier | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:31 |
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20110510_210546) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110510_210546-package.tar.bz2 | 15:17 |
| toadlife | dammit I just rebooted | 15:17 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 132 filed... | 15:23 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=132 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Freeze upon ending of incoming call from the other side | 15:23 |
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| Rhodium100 | Hya | 15:23 |
| toadlife | hi | 15:24 |
| Rhodium100 | Anyone else experiencing fast battery drainage using Android on their rhodium device?? | 15:24 |
| Rhodium100 | BTW i do run stuff like Whatsapp which are constantly syncing | 15:24 |
| Rhodium100 | but 20% battery in 1 hour on standby | 15:25 |
| toadlife | If you have an app constantly syning and keeping the phone from sleeping, 20% in an hour is not a surprise | 15:25 |
| toadlife | I'm not familiar with whatsapp | 15:26 |
| emwe | Rhodium100: try out the most recent kernel release plz. | 15:26 |
| toadlife | How often is "constantly"? | 15:26 |
| emwe | toadlife: likely autobuild issue since 2011/05/04 | 15:26 |
| Rhodium100 | whatsapp constantlie pulls for messages | 15:26 |
| Rhodium100 | i used the build euhm frx06 | 15:27 |
| Rhodium100 | which was uploaded end of march i believe | 15:27 |
| toadlife | You need to download the latest kernel | 15:30 |
| Rhodium100 | kernel?? | 15:30 |
| toadlife | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 15:30 |
| toadlife | Download the latest file. Extract it with 7zip. place the files in the andboot director on your sdcard. delete the old zimage file and the old modules file in andboot | 15:31 |
| Rhodium100 | thx for the help will try right away | 15:31 |
| toadlife | np | 15:32 |
| Rhodium100 | this is compatible with the stuff from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 15:32 |
| toadlife | yes | 15:32 |
| Rhodium100 | perhaps a stupid question but is the latest kernel the one on the top? | 15:33 |
| toadlife | yeah | 15:33 |
| Rhodium100 | your great m8 | 15:33 |
| toadlife | no prob | 15:33 |
| Rhodium100 | ill try now | 15:33 |
| toadlife | the new kernel will ne named zimage_xxxx - make sure and rename it 'zImage' | 15:33 |
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| Rhodium100 | Okidoki | 15:35 |
| Rhodium100 | name was good | 15:35 |
| Rhodium100 | do i delete the other modules*** files | 15:36 |
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| toadlife | yes. you must delete the old modules file, or you will have problems | 15:37 |
| Rhodium100 | Man ur a livesaver ^^ | 15:40 |
| toadlife | The newest kernel isn't guaranteed to solve your problem, but it does have a lot of improvements. Good luck | 15:41 |
| Rhodium100 | ok wel they said it isnt superstable | 15:42 |
| Rhodium100 | but i had more problems with windows mobile 6.5 which reeeeealy S*Cks B4ls ^^ | 15:42 |
| Rhodium100 | almost threw it away and thought lets give android a go | 15:42 |
| toadlife | Android isn | 15:43 |
| toadlife | probably isn't more stable than WinMo, but it's getting close | 15:43 |
| toadlife | I still get random reboots in Android on my Tp2, but it good enough that I use it 24x7 on my phone now | 15:44 |
| Rhodium100 | you mean xdandroid or just android as a whole | 15:44 |
| toadlife | xdandroid | 15:44 |
| toadlife | No native android devices are stable | 15:44 |
| toadlife | The xdandroid devs are making great progress though | 15:45 |
| Rhodium100 | yeah lost of updates | 15:45 |
| Rhodium100 | last time i tried android there werent alot of supported functions | 15:45 |
| Rhodium100 | Might be some problems with battery monitor it says 61% after 10 mins of loading | 15:46 |
| Rhodium100 | that would have contributed to the fact that it seemed to drain so fast ^^ | 15:46 |
| toadlife | As of now, GPS is still flaky. proximity sensor doesn't work. battery meter is unreliable, camera video has no sound, and no bluetooth | 15:47 |
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| Rhodium100 | i can live with that ^^ geuss that it wont take em long to fix that | 15:48 |
| madplaya1 | is worth to update the new kernel, if i have wistilt2 kernel??? | 15:48 |
| toadlife | IMO, The new kernel is better than wistilt2's kernel | 15:48 |
| madplaya1 | what are some improvments ? | 15:49 |
| toadlife | Most, if not all, of wistilt2's improvements and now in the autobuild kernel, plus there are some other improvments | 15:50 |
| toadlife | instant USB recongnition, and working usb tehtering | 15:50 |
| madplaya1 | oh good, but why is there new ones constantly ? bugs ? | 15:53 |
| Rhodium100 | Does it help to install a third party battery monitor or does that monitor use the same information as the propriatary monitor | 15:53 |
| toadlife | Rhodium100, have no idea | 15:53 |
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| toadlife | Every monitor i've ever seen says the same battery level | 15:54 |
| emwe | kernel provides battinfo to userland. so no other tool will help that | 15:54 |
| D3tul3 | not sure about most of WisTilt2's improvements being in autobuild | 15:55 |
| Rhodium100 | ok what i thought but i described it superawesome ^^ | 15:55 |
| D3tul3 | per the man "WisTilt2arrrghhh: you might tell people that the autobuild does not have all my stuff from the test kernel in it yet. getting lots of email wondering why autobuild is slower, failed wakes, no button lights, etc. I think acl is going through the patches little by little so people will have to be patient." | 15:55 |
| toadlife | autobuild has fast wake and buttonlights | 15:56 |
| D3tul3 | ups perhaps I should've asked permission before quoting verbatim | 15:56 |
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| D3tul3 | hope he doesn't mind | 15:56 |
| toadlife | Oh, wait. buttonlights might not be in there. I'm not sure now. ;| | 15:56 |
| toadlife | I'm using hyc's kernel | 15:56 |
| toadlife | But he's been commiting things to autobuild quickly | 15:57 |
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| emwe | i haven't pushed that one yet. whonder where that other rhoders with commit access are .... | 16:00 |
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| helicopter88 | hi all,I have a question | 16:25 |
| helicopter88 | how do i mount rootfs with read/write permissions? i need to replace init.. | 16:27 |
| emwe | sudo mount -o loop file.img mntdir | 16:28 |
| emwe | do the copy with superuser perms then | 16:28 |
| helicopter88 | thank you,i forget to run nautilus as root | 16:29 |
| emwe | uh, you shouldn't. just do the sudo mount once and that little copying and sudo umount and done... | 16:37 |
| helicopter88 | i did su then mount blablabla,edited init,and it didn't save,then i saved it on the desktop,tried to move,but failed | 16:38 |
| helicopter88 | and tried with sudo nautilus and done.. | 16:38 |
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| toadlife | #su | 16:56 |
| toadlife | #mount -o remount,rw / | 16:56 |
| toadlife | ahh crap he left | 16:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | anyone attempted to boot today's autobuild kernel on a RHOD? Mine never makes it to the animated boot screen. | 17:03 |
| toadlife | havnen't tried it yet | 17:04 |
| toadlife | maybe I wont. ;) | 17:04 |
| toadlife | nah. I'll give it a shot right now and let you know how it goes | 17:05 |
| toadlife | NeoMatrixJR: are you the one that left the comment on the autobuiild page? | 17:06 |
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| toadlife | NeoMatrixJR, I've got the boot animation right now | 17:10 |
| Sixrey | hi guys, i would like to share something with you | 17:10 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah, I left the comment | 17:10 |
| toadlife | Mine booted up fine. I have a Rhod210 (GSM) | 17:11 |
| toadlife | Sixrey, yes? | 17:11 |
| toadlife | Akk. Button lights are not in the autobuild | 17:12 |
| Sixrey | no-USA devices cant have data connection (cdma) because the user and pass aree not in the epst | 17:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | toadlife: nevermind me I found the problem. | 17:14 |
| toadlife | Sixrey: There is an updated ril that solves cdma issues : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009112 | 17:16 |
| Sixrey | thxs | 17:17 |
| toadlife | Sixrey: Read the thread carefully. The author is cranky and will yell at you if you ask a dumb questions. ;P | 17:18 |
| Sixrey | :-) thxs again.. | 17:19 |
| toadlife | np | 17:19 |
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| hyc | :P | 17:45 |
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| hyc | toadlife: actually, getting cdma to use user/password also required a patched framework, not just the ril | 17:46 |
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| hyc | arrrghhh: pong | 17:51 |
| emwe | hyc: sorry for my silence regarding the non-battery patches. but i really think acl should try and push them. | 17:54 |
| emwe | i am fine breaking battery is i can see what i break. | 17:54 |
| hyc | heh, ok. | 17:55 |
| hyc | you're referring to button lights and sleep led? | 17:55 |
| emwe | yes. | 17:56 |
| hyc | no problem. so many people are probably already accustomed to wistilt2's sleep led | 17:57 |
| hyc | it would probably confuse them to adopt the opposite... | 17:58 |
| hyc | button lights tho, seems like no remaining issues | 17:58 |
| emwe | wasn't there that crash fix? | 17:59 |
| emwe | fixing i2c writes during interrupts disabled? | 18:00 |
| emwe | gtg. late. gnight. have fun! | 18:00 |
| hyc | night | 18:00 |
| hyc | (yes, button lights was ill behaved, but my patch fixes that) | 18:01 |
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| toadlife | hyc: oops. Oh well. I'm not CDMA, so I don't that much attention to what those poor sapps have to go through | 18:06 |
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| toadlife | hyc: seemed to have a ril failure, but toggling airplane mode fixed the problem this time. The signal indicator showed no signal. I walked to an area where I always get four bars and waited for a minute, but the signal did not come back. I ran logcat and watched and it just seemed to sit there doing nothing. I tried to make a call and it said "no network available". Finally, I toggled... | 19:40 |
| toadlife | ...airplane mode and the signal came back instantly. | 19:40 |
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/debuglogs_20110510233158.tar.gz | 19:40 |
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| hyc | how nice... | 19:42 |
| hyc | looks like you did airplane mode at around 23:24, yes? | 19:43 |
| toadlife | yeah, right before a rotated the logs | 19:43 |
| hyc | ok | 19:43 |
| toadlife | Maybe the towers here are just retarted | 19:43 |
| hyc | your radio state just before that was +CREG: 1,2 | 19:46 |
| hyc | the 2 means it was searching for a network | 19:46 |
| toadlife | Hmmm | 19:46 |
| toadlife | Should have found one | 19:46 |
| toadlife | How long should I be waiting for it to find a tower? | 19:47 |
| hyc | dunno | 19:48 |
| hyc | how long did you wait? | 19:48 |
| toadlife | A couple of minutes. Watched logcat for about a minute | 19:50 |
| stinebd | i feel bad for sitting here on irc not helping wistilt2 | 19:51 |
| stinebd | gotta start taking my various phones to work with me | 19:51 |
| toadlife | If this happens again I can wait longer. Just though it was odd being in a area where I get four bars | 19:51 |
| hyc | did you try going to the phone menu, and search for a new network? | 19:52 |
| toadlife | No. | 19:52 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: later tell arrrghhh i need information about the raph keyboard issue. try to see if you can find out whether those people have lcd density changes in their startup.txt | 19:52 |
| hyc | not sure that would have made any difference | 19:52 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: The operation succeeded. | 19:52 |
| * toadlife looks for the phone menu | 19:52 | |
| toadlife | lol | 19:52 |
| hyc | but it would have shown you the list of networks in the area | 19:53 |
| toadlife | I'll try that next time | 19:53 |
| rpierce99 | xdandroid: later tell stinebd that this is a neat trick | 19:54 |
| xdandroid | rpierce99: The operation succeeded. | 19:54 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: don't abuse the bot | 19:54 |
| hyc | well, one nice thing about this log, it shows that my error parsing code worked | 19:54 |
| toadlife | whoa. It happened again. NO signal | 19:54 |
| toadlife | searching for network gives an error message | 19:54 |
| toadlife | I'm going to go outside and walk around and give it some time (more than a couple of minutes) | 19:55 |
| hyc | well, just after you started going into airplane mode, I saw your CREG change to 3 | 19:55 |
| hyc | which means registration denied | 19:55 |
| stinebd | better pay your bill | 19:55 |
| toadlife | heh | 19:55 |
| toadlife | Bill is paid | 19:56 |
| toadlife | Phone is locked up solid now. :\ | 19:56 |
| toadlife | Frozen | 19:56 |
| hyc | locked up from the network search? | 19:57 |
| hyc | or after that? | 19:57 |
| toadlife | I was just sitting on the settings page where you click on "Search for Networks" | 19:57 |
| toadlife | Happend sometime after clicking to search | 19:57 |
| hyc | bummer. hope you had that logged too | 19:58 |
| toadlife | Yeah I did. rebooting. :\ | 19:58 |
| hyc | after you came out of airplane mode it took ~20 seconds to find a network | 19:59 |
| hyc | it was getting Denied for a while (CREG: 3) and then searching (CREG: 2) | 19:59 |
| toadlife | Hmm. It didn't seem to long - but I was watching logcat. I was probably enamoured by all of the fast moving text | 19:59 |
| hyc | yeah, these logs would be a lot less useful without timestamps :) | 20:00 |
| toadlife | Fuck. Booted to android and it rebooted right back to winmo instantly. | 20:01 |
| toadlife | Wonder if my SD card is okay | 20:01 |
| hyc | yeah that's pretty unusual | 20:02 |
| toadlife | It's booting fine now. | 20:02 |
| toadlife | I might grab a new SD card just in case. The one I have is a couple of years old. | 20:03 |
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/debuglogs_20110511000240.tar.gz | 20:06 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 20:09 |
| hyc | my bad | 20:09 |
| hyc | when a timeout error occurs, the default behavior is to close /dev/smd0 | 20:09 |
| hyc | I didn't check that. oops. | 20:10 |
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| hyc | toadlife: new ril2-test.zip | 20:14 |
| hyc | heh, with the new charging code, my phone stays cool while plugged in | 20:16 |
| toadlife | Got it. Hey, is `sync & reboot -f` a "safe" way to reboot? | 20:17 |
| hyc | I didn't think the reboot command works on our phone | 20:18 |
| hyc | if you're running my build, you can do "start reboot" on the shell tho | 20:18 |
| toadlife | I does when you appead [-f] to the end :p | 20:18 |
| hyc | ah | 20:18 |
| hyc | relatively safe. it won't unmount filesystems. using the init service is safer. | 20:18 |
| toadlife | I'll that instead | 20:19 |
| toadlife | do that | 20:19 |
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| toadlife | So did you break "secure" app support in your init just to mess with the n00bs? | 20:28 |
| hyc | nah, I was just deleting mount points that I didn't need because I was on a partitioned build | 20:30 |
| hyc | anyway, I put it back, works fine now. | 20:30 |
| hyc | actually works correctly now ;) | 20:31 |
| toadlife | Yeah, I put it back. I had some apps that wouldn't restore. | 20:31 |
| hyc | previous init was setting up the wrong mount points anyway | 20:31 |
| toadlife | getprop | grep "ril" shows 854776a | 20:32 |
| toadlife | date shows 2011-05-08 | 20:32 |
| toadlife | ? | 20:32 |
| toadlife | It | 20:33 |
| toadlife | It's the right file though | 20:33 |
| hyc | I haven't committed this alst patch, so it still has the old commit stamp | 20:34 |
| hyc | last patch | 20:34 |
| toadlife | ok | 20:34 |
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| toadlife | Time to head out | 20:38 |
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| rpierce99 | la-di-da, tornado warnings and 2" diameter hail, just another day | 21:03 |
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| stinebd | we call that sleet where i come from | 21:15 |
| stinebd | and it's 2mm | 21:15 |
| hyc | hmm, was it here on irc, or on the ml, someone was discussing the GSM sleeping kernel bug? | 21:16 |
| hyc | sounded to me like they had it figured out. | 21:17 |
| stinebd | you mean data taking naps with the phone? | 21:17 |
| hyc | not just data - the entire gsm radio | 21:17 |
| hyc | rhod400/500 only of course | 21:17 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: no, 2" diameter | 21:18 |
| stinebd | i don't see what the big deal is there | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | the GSM radio gets disabled in sleep on RHOD400/500's after kernel 1253. part of a huge clocks commit. | 21:18 |
| stinebd | just set your phone to never sleep | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:18 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: i know i'm just yanking your wang | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, just got your msg. RAPH should be 210 for lcd.density? | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | IIRC | 21:19 |
| stinebd | crap if i know | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | well you asked me to check | 21:19 |
| stinebd | but i can't reproduce their bug on whatever the default is | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | i wanted to see what it "should" be | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | i have no RAPH | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | but IIRC, it's 210 | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | default | 21:19 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: oooh keep going | 21:20 |
| stinebd | faster and harder? | 21:20 |
| hyc | well according to wikipedia, the actual dot pitch is 287dpi | 21:20 |
| stinebd | pretty sure this would be illegal in most states that get tornadoes btw | 21:20 |
| hyc | 640x480 @ 2.8in | 21:21 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: looks like 210 is the default indeed | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | k | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i should have in the startup.txt then.. | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | why the hell would cdma devices be different | 21:22 |
| stinebd | because you touch yourself at night | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | that's neither here nor there | 21:23 |
| stinebd | i hope it's not here | 21:23 |
| stinebd | do that in private | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | everywhere | 21:23 |
| hyc | somebody on wikipedia can't round off decimals. it's 285.71dpi, how did they round that to 287? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | drugs | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | enhance | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | everything | 21:24 |
| stinebd | significant figures | 21:24 |
| stinebd | or something | 21:24 |
| rpierce99 | hyc: you should know by now, people are stupid | 21:25 |
| stinebd | it's 290 | 21:25 |
| stinebd | bam | 21:25 |
| hyc | heh | 21:25 |
| stinebd | what's the rhod's? | 21:25 |
| hyc | 260dpi | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | we use 240 for the lcd.density | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | does lcd.density = dpi exactly? | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | i never really quite grasped that metric. | 21:26 |
| hyc | theoretically ;) | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | it certainly seems like dpi when you F with it. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:26 |
| stinebd | hmm | 21:27 |
| stinebd | i wonder if xdpi and ydpi are still used | 21:27 |
| hyc | hm. reporting a lower density than actual, should result in icons that are smaller than expected | 21:27 |
| hyc | what was the intended result... | 21:28 |
| stinebd | well with 286 you'll probably end up with icons about half the screen | 21:28 |
| hyc | heh | 21:28 |
| stinebd | because it's vga | 21:28 |
| hyc | I guess | 21:28 |
| stinebd | historically anyway | 21:28 |
| hyc | It amazes me that there are Chinese android phones with 240x160 screens | 21:29 |
| stinebd | maybe not so much anymore | 21:29 |
| stinebd | surfaceflinger's dimension handling has gotten much better | 21:29 |
| hyc | so where are we in mergeland now? or flatland | 21:30 |
| stinebd | same place we were yesterday | 21:30 |
| stinebd | we will be there until maybe tomorrow night, depends how much time wistilt2's kernels suck up on me | 21:31 |
| hyc | ok | 21:31 |
| hyc | I fixed the couple regressions in my init script since then | 21:31 |
| hyc | not much else to mention. mebbe another couple ril patches if toadlife's phone ever settles down | 21:32 |
| stinebd | damn ril | 21:33 |
| hyc | heh. we should tell google to replace their reference with this one | 21:34 |
| stinebd | since i can do that without a phone to test, let me add you to the commit list for that quick | 21:34 |
| hyc | the reference ril does a bunch of stuff wrong | 21:34 |
| hyc | commit list for init, or ril? | 21:34 |
| stinebd | ril | 21:35 |
| hyc | cool | 21:35 |
| stinebd | done, you're in now | 21:35 |
| stinebd | don't submit any more ril merge requests | 21:35 |
| stinebd | unless you want to approve them yourself | 21:35 |
| hyc | okeydoke ;) | 21:35 |
| hyc | probably won't touch the tree till tomorrow, with new feedback from toadlife | 21:35 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: so all these keyboard issues are on cdma? | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | i can't say for certain | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | but i'd say the complainers on the RAPH side are CDMA | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | however, blackstone users complain | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | and those are all GSM | 21:39 |
| stinebd | oh | 21:39 |
| stinebd | you said something about cdma earlier and i got confused i guess | 21:39 |
| stinebd | isn't blackstone wvga? | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | 480 x 800 | 21:41 |
| stinebd | maybe android is getting bad dimension info from the display device? | 21:42 |
| stinebd | no clue what to make of that | 21:42 |
| stinebd | i've got a perfect vga device and two perfect wvga devices | 21:42 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea it's flawless on RHOD | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps all these yokels are using a stupid lcd.density | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | didn't occur to me, but that's highly likely. i'll try to see if i can nail down anything about the issue. | 21:45 |
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| D3tul3 | hah, arrrghhh that fuze guy/gal owes you a beer | 21:48 |
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| arrrghhh | lol you pop in to say that :P | 21:54 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: what was your ping earlier today? | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec, i don't remember. | 22:00 |
| ray|netbook | just felt like poking u | 22:00 |
| ray|netbook | lol | 22:00 |
| hyc | heh | 22:01 |
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| arrrghhh | giggity | 22:02 |
| ray|netbook | speaking of weird lcd resolution,I think I figured out why my battery life has been crap on my incredible. I changed the density to 180 like I normally do and the logcat during boot says the real resolution is 800x480 but virtual resolution is 1600x480 | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:02 |
| hyc | that's normal | 22:03 |
| hyc | because the home screen scrolls... | 22:03 |
| ray|netbook | its 480 wide not tall | 22:03 |
| ray|netbook | it shouldn't be 1600 tall and 480 wide | 22:03 |
| hyc | it's all relative | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, probably to confirm USB | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | i can't think of anything right now, gf is squaking. | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | i mean talking | 22:04 |
| hyc | lol | 22:04 |
| hyc | ok | 22:04 |
| hyc | well yeah, glad we got usb sorted finally | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: the term is yapping | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:04 |
| hyc | you confirmed on the autobuild kernel? | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | i'll figure out the lingo someday | 22:04 |
| ray|netbook | the only annoying noises here would be my hard drive which sounds like rain hitting my roof. | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | well i meant to, but i think i accidently ran yours again :P | 22:04 |
| hyc | heh | 22:05 |
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| hyc | at this point I think the only thing my build has is button lights | 22:06 |
| hyc | and a few iptables modules | 22:06 |
| hyc | oh, and the sleep led patch | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if the fast wake is in the autobuild | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | fast sleep went in today, but AFAIK fast wake is not in thar | 22:07 |
| hyc | ah | 22:07 |
| hyc | I was unable to merge his power manager fixes to my tree | 22:07 |
| hyc | too many conflicts with mainline | 22:08 |
| hyc | and I didn't feel like untangling it | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:08 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, pppd and the RIL are both in sys now, correct? | 22:09 |
| hyc | yes | 22:09 |
| hyc | there has always been a pppd in sys | 22:09 |
| hyc | it just wasn't used before | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | i just want to doublecheck. NAND devs want me to test your RIL out on NAND | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | ah, ic. | 22:09 |
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| hyc | cool | 22:09 |
| hyc | yeah I recall they did something stupid like copying /bin/pppd over their /system one | 22:10 |
| hyc | better make sure you're using a freshly built /system one | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:10 |
| hyc | seems to me that they can just use an unmodified system.img right? | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | yea, AFAIK | 22:12 |
| hyc | Alex seems to be using my rootfs /init script too. | 22:12 |
| hyc | I'm a bit puzzled about how rootfs figured into a nand build, but whatever... | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | they collapsed the rootfs | 22:13 |
| hyc | collapsed to where? | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't exist perse, but some of its innards do | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | isn't it just / | 22:14 |
| ray|netbook | so collapsed to nothingness? | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | well i'm by no means positive, but i think it was collapsed into one of the partitions on NAND | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | i try to follow NAND dev, but i wouldn't say I know what's going on with it | 22:15 |
| ray|netbook | if I'm understanding the meaning of it properly then rootfs would be / | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | much like my life | 22:15 |
| hyc | ok, so it still exists as its own partition separate from the system img | 22:15 |
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| ray|netbook | would poking around in the filesystem of a native device help you any? | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not worried about my ignorance. | 22:15 |
| hyc | as I recall, native has everything (system) mounted at root | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:16 |
| ray|netbook | yeah | 22:16 |
| ray|netbook | pretty much | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | that's more than likely what they did. | 22:17 |
| ray|netbook | they all just show up as folders in root | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | that would make sense. | 22:17 |
| toadlife | Talking abouit DFT? | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | helllllllllll no | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | what's there's to talk about? | 22:19 |
| ray|netbook | lol | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's all a mystery. | 22:19 |
| toadlife | I wouldn't know. I don't know Chinese | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | eh i translated their site (poorly) with chrome | 22:19 |
| toadlife | Sorry, just jumped from that DFT thread to this discussion and it seemed to be about NAND, so.... | 22:20 |
| ray|netbook | yeah,chrome's translations can be pretty funny | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | better than nothing | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | but certainly not 100% | 22:20 |
| ray|netbook | it gets you the general idea | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure it just uses google translate. | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | chinese is especially hilarious | 22:20 |
| ray|netbook | yeah | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | kinda helps me understand why they sometimes phrase things the way they do in english | 22:21 |
| hyc | yeah, good ol subject - verb - object order | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 22:21 |
| ray|netbook | like someone's attempted sentence he wanted me to correct: Due to few of your vacancy tenants may have affected our business and the dire economic conditions of this country, and in particularly this state, which has negatively affected us all in various ways; the volume of our customer base has significantly dwindled. | 22:22 |
| ray|netbook | the fixed version: A few of your buildings have been vacant for awhile,and this is having a negative effect on our business in these tough economic times,our customer base has been significantly reduced as a result. | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:23 |
| ray|netbook | and the only part he wasn't sure of was whether he should be using affected or effected there. | 22:23 |
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| hyc | lol | 22:24 |
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| hyc | ok, has anyone else noticed that the USB messages in the notification bar sometimes get delayed? | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it's immediate tho | 22:29 |
| hyc | I plug in the cable, nothing shows up in the bar, but adb shell works | 22:29 |
| hyc | has that always happened, or only with the recent usb patching? | 22:32 |
| ray|netbook | it happens on both of my native devices | 22:34 |
| ray|netbook | its android | 22:34 |
| jonpry | hi arrrghhh | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, how goes it | 22:35 |
| ray|netbook | adb works instantly,notification is about 5-8 seconds delayed | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | aw. i must reboot... | 22:37 |
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| hyc | ok | 22:43 |
| hyc | hey, i now have an sdcard install of frx06 running on my G1! | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:44 |
| hyc | ;) | 22:44 |
| D3tul3 | how does it stack up against stock? :) | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | hehe, good question | 22:45 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, you ever see anything that looked like /data not mounting? | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, yea randomly i'd get errors when i'd try to mount the SD card | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | if you mean while booting Android itself, then no. | 22:46 |
| jonpry | i'm not sure what is actually going on. scrolls by too fast. but like a bunch of file does not exist error in rootfs | 22:47 |
| hyc | there's a bunch of those due to absent compcache modules | 22:48 |
| hyc | all ignorable | 22:48 |
| jonpry | hmm | 22:49 |
| jonpry | any ideas what would prevent boot anim from showing on an apparently working kernel? | 22:49 |
| hyc | not offhand. | 22:50 |
| stinebd | i'm guessing lack of hw3d or bad perms on its nodes. gotta go | 22:50 |
| jonpry | we have no hw3d | 22:50 |
| jonpry | but neither does 35 afaik | 22:50 |
| hyc | i see that it always fallsback to the software egl on boot | 22:50 |
| hyc | something apparently hasn't been set up yet so hw egl fails, so bootani only uses software egl | 22:52 |
| jonpry | so hw3d is likely not my problem? | 22:52 |
| hyc | probably not | 22:52 |
| hyc | btw, are you seeing any mmc i/o errors? | 22:53 |
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| jonpry | no errors | 22:53 |
| hyc | flaky sd card caused bootani to disappear randomly for me | 22:53 |
| hyc | till i switched to a c4 card | 22:53 |
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| Entropy512 | many of the early C10 cards were flaky as hell | 23:05 |
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