Friday, 2011-04-15

mesnever got into plan9 tho, guess I'm a failed geek00:00
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hycarrrghhh: you need to have ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric set in your properties before the APN settings menu will show you anything03:47
hycAlso I've updated my post, the operator ID for Sprint (as shown on my Hero) is 310120, not 3100003:47
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AhChuyHi, I have installed Android on my Touch Pro. Why is the battery going empty that fast? Today the battery was empty just 10h after charging...04:03
MigaThe original Touch Pro?04:03
AhChuythe one with the slideable keyboard04:03
MigaI had a TP, it didn't last very long on Android either.04:04
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AhChuyit seems that the phone doesn´t go in a real standyby mode...04:04
MigaIt does, but I think the thing is, data's on all the time in Android, and in WM when data's on, it really drained the battery.04:05
Miga(for me, anyway)04:05
AhChuyso no chance to solve the problem? Do i have to go back to windows :( ?04:06
MigaI don't really know if there's a way to solve that problem04:06
MigaThere could be, but I haven't really looked into it since I stopped using my Touch Pro a few weeks back.04:07
MigaIf someone created a script or something that disabled data when the phone's on standby, you'd probably get improved battery life.04:07
AhChuywould be really helpful ^^04:08
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MigaI'd try and make one but I'm not all too good at programming, so you'd have to ask someone else.04:09
AhChuyok thx...04:09
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AhChuycan anyone else help me with the battery problem?04:16
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WartexxHi06:27
Wartexxi've been searching for a list with startup.txt commands but cannot find it :S only thing i found was a startup utility cab for winmo. Is that any good?06:28
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EdLinWartexx you can find that information on XDA-Developer's forum in the thread for xdandroid, but there's a very good startup utility cab that will edit startup.txt for you, not sure which one you have.06:49
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arrrghhhhyc, seems something is wrong.  did a fresh init/sync last night, and sync'd again this morning to be sure... pulled the zip's in, ran the unzip script, then sudo make -j5..08:27
arrrghhhnew error tho lol08:28
arrrghhhmake: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/generic/obj/lib/librpc.so', needed by `out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libhardware_legacy_intermediates/LINKED/libhardware_legacy.so'.  Stop.08:28
arrrghhhstill seems related to gps/rpc.08:28
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Pharneyany1 here?08:55
Pharney... any1  :(08:56
Tandyman100I am.08:57
Pharneyhallo ... :)08:57
Tandyman100Hi.08:57
Pharneycan u help me with XDAndroid enquiry?08:58
Tandyman100Perhps.08:58
Pharneybasic question ...08:58
PharneyI downloaded the system-FRX06.ext2.zip file, and within it is the system.ext2 file ...08:59
Pharneyso I should get the contents hereof into the 'andboot' folder on a SD card in my device09:00
Pharneybut I don't know how? :(09:01
Pharneyyou got that?09:01
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Pharneyhi programmer892209:03
Pharneysounds like a clever nick09:04
Pharneymaybe u can help me ...09:04
Detuledownload zip on your computer desktop -> unzip -> connect phone (whilst in windows) to usb -> open sdcard using file explorer -> find andboot and copy .ext2 from desktop to andboot09:04
Pharneyok thanks Detule, I did that ... so now that the system.ext2 file is in the andboot dir.  what next?09:06
Detulenothing boot and you'll have a working version of frx06, assuming your previous version (frx05) was working fine09:06
Detuleif you encounter any problems, go back into your andboot folder and delete your data.img (this will delete all your android data/settings so make sure you have backups of whatever you need)09:07
Detulerebooting will create a fresh data.img09:07
Pharneymmmm, no I thought the whole installation package for XDAndroid was in the system-FRX06.ext2.zip file ... ?09:08
Detuleincorrect, how did you get an andboot folder on your sdcard?09:09
Pharneynew folder ...09:09
Pharneycreated it09:09
Detuleok scratch everything i said you need to start from the beginning09:09
Detulelet me find the thread you need09:10
Pharneyplease ... :)09:10
Detulein the following post you want "download full bundle" not just system.ext209:11
Detulehttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/140848-build-complete-froyo-bundle-frx06-stable-minor-fixes.html#post205521509:11
Detulei should have asked what device are you trying to get this working on09:11
PharneyHTC Touch Pro II09:12
Detulewell, for that device, if you follow the instructions to the letter you will get it working09:12
Detulewithout a doubt09:12
Detuleif you encounter a problem, go back to the post and read it again and again, everything is there09:12
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Pharneyok thanX - so the link above will lead me to the full package avail for download?09:13
Detuleyes it's under number one09:14
Tandyman100Wow, I'm stupid, and that explains a lot.09:14
Tandyman100I downloaded the latest kernel and installed it, but neglected to delete the old one and rename zImage09:14
Tandyman100I was utterly befuddled as to why nothing was working that was supposed to :P09:14
Pharneythanks once again Detule, any other means of contacting you when I get stuck ...09:15
Pharneyyou seem like the right person :)09:16
Pharneypromise not to make a nuisance of myself ...09:18
DetuleI am not the right persron, you should thank arrrghhh (post author) he is here often enough09:19
Pharneyok, thanks to you and the Android Pirate then anyway :)09:20
Pharneybfn09:21
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Tandyman100He seemed like a nice fellow.09:26
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Tandyman100hmm10:03
Tandyman100I'm using FRX06 with the latest kernel on a Diam500, and the camera says 'insert sd card'10:03
Tandyman100other programs that require an sd card are complaining about one not existing10:04
Tandyman100including the music player10:04
rpierce99copy off your files, format the sd card, put all your stuff back on10:04
rpierce99it's a known issue10:04
Tandyman100...there is no sd card10:04
Tandyman100it's "internal memory"10:04
rpierce99there's a psuedo sd card baked in10:04
rpierce99you can still do the same thing10:05
Tandyman100yeah, so I need to go to winmo, set it to 'emulate usb drive' mode, and format the internal storage?10:05
Tandyman100Crap. i just spent 40 minutes copying all my music onto it :P10:05
rpierce99yes, but not using the winmo/windows format utilities10:05
Tandyman100so what do I use then?10:05
Tandyman100my linux box isn't working atm10:05
rpierce99some hp tool10:06
rpierce99i don't have the link10:06
Tandyman100also, Adao can read the sd card just fine10:06
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JugglerLKRhi10:18
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Tandyman100Ok, perhaps this should go in the FAW10:36
Tandyman100FAQ* for the DIam50010:36
Tandyman100If you get errors that it can't read the 'sd card', download the HP Disk Format Tool : http://download.cnet.com/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool/3000-2094_4-10974082.html10:36
Tandyman100Backup your device, format it, and restore the files. It sholud work.10:36
rpierce99it's not the DAIM10:37
rpierce99err DIAM10:37
rpierce99it's all of them10:37
ryannathansmmm everyones camera is phyiscally working right?10:38
rpierce99rhod100s still have camera issues afaik10:38
Tandyman100oh10:38
Tandyman100ok10:38
Tandyman100Yes, my camera works brilliantly on Diam500 and Raph80010:38
ryannathansrhod110 here, camera crashes like a second after opening, i see a second of footage though10:39
ryannathansi will get an update of the frx06 repo and retry10:39
rpierce99probably won't help10:39
rpierce99it's kernel10:39
ryannathanshmm wistil2's test, I will try with an autobuild10:39
rpierce99apparently when viruscrazy was doing his camera testing thread no one with the rhod100/110 helped test, because the autobuild kernel that it was based on didn't work for that phone10:40
rpierce99since then autobuild has been fixed10:40
rpierce99but because no one with that phone tested his kernel, he didn't know it was still broken10:40
ryannathanssigh. autobuild is a month old.10:40
ryannathansi never saw this camera testing thread10:41
Detulehow long have you had android running on your rhod?10:41
Tandyman100lol10:42
rpierce99it was in the raph forum, but there was representation there from all the xdandroid phones (except the 100/110 apparently)10:42
ryannathanssigh, I only look in touch pro 2 forum10:42
ryannathans110 doesn't inherrit the AUO, maybe it inherrited camera?10:43
rpierce99not sure10:43
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ryannathans /wrists10:44
ryannathansrpierce99: do you have an rhod?10:45
rpierce99400, yeah10:46
ryannathansdoes it have a zoombar below the touch screen?10:46
rpierce99yeah10:46
ryannathansthat doesnt work does it?10:46
rpierce99no10:47
Tandyman100The twirly capacitive zoom thing on my DIAM500 and RAPH800 works perfectly :D10:47
ryannathans:O10:47
Tandyman100I'm suprised at how PERFECTLY froyo works on this ancient Diamond. It works better all around than Windows does, honestly.10:47
Tandyman100It does need better game performance though ;)10:47
ryannathanskernel is on git yeah?10:51
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marcroidhi there11:06
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marcroidcould somebody help me with a problem11:06
marcroid?11:07
ryannathansyes/11:07
ryannathansdont ask to ask11:07
marcroidfein :)11:07
marcroidfine11:07
marcroidi installed xdandroid on my touch pro  aka raphael11:07
marcroidbut the calibration screen isnt realy working11:08
ryannathanswhat kernel?11:08
marcroidlast version, froyo 2.2.7 i think11:08
marcroidi cant see the cubs on the display11:08
ryannathansuhh, did you just grab a full bundle and check it on your sd?11:08
Tandyman100If you look in the thread, it says that if calibration doesn't use 'click here to download an older kernel' that works with calibration11:08
marcroidcubes, sry11:08
Tandyman100it's a known bug, the solution is to use the older kernel, calibrate, then use the newest kernel once you have a working ts_calibration file.11:09
ryannathansor use someone elses calibration file11:09
marcroidok11:09
Tandyman100lemme dig up a link directly to the correct kernel11:10
marcroiddo you know somebody with a touch pro / raphael?11:10
arrrghhhit's in the first post11:10
Tandyman100http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101124_204019-package.tar.bz211:10
ryannathansarrrghhh: does that viruscrazy guy ever come on this irc?11:10
arrrghhhdunno why11:10
fishhead2567marcroid, i had that problem11:11
ryannathansrhod 110 camera doesn't work11:11
fishhead2567if u get the bundle arrrghhh posted on the wiki files repository it will work. (if calibration screen is only problem)11:11
ryannathansim told it's kernel related11:11
arrrghhhit is11:12
arrrghhhand it's only AUO panel folk11:12
ryannathansahh noo...11:12
ryannathansi must find where my problem resides11:12
arrrghhh...11:12
marcroidto change the kernel, i have to exchange the system.ext2 with the newest one, right?11:13
ryannathansno11:13
Tandyman100marcroid download that bundle, download it and you will see two files. One of them will be "zImage_"with a bunch of stuff after it. Rename it to "zImage" and copy that and the "modules*********" file to your sd card after renaming your old zImage to "zImage_old"11:13
Tandyman100then once you've calibred, delete 'zImage' and rename 'zImage_old' to 'zImage'11:13
* Tandyman100 phew11:13
arrrghhhlol11:14
marcroidokay11:14
marcroidthanks man11:14
Tandyman100np11:15
Tandyman100Ugh, running this HP disk format tool without choosing 'quick format' was a BAD idea11:15
Tandyman1002 hours left.11:15
arrrghhhlolwut11:15
* Tandyman100 wonders if it'd be any harm to cancel the format and start over and quick format11:15
arrrghhhyou have usb0.1?11:15
Tandyman100lol11:15
arrrghhhTandyman100, do a full format11:15
arrrghhhalways11:15
Tandyman100ok11:15
arrrghhhalwaysalwaysalways11:15
arrrghhhonly takes me 10 mins tho11:15
ryannathansmarcroid: this might help you, remember it was written for rhod but tshould help you also - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=98007911:15
Tandyman100the laptop has usb2.0, dunno what the phone is.11:16
Tandyman100it's my Diamond 1.11:16
arrrghhhphone should be 2.011:16
arrrghhhi know11:16
Tandyman100hmm11:16
Tandyman100then this tool is really thorough :P11:16
* Tandyman100 doesn't know how a format can be thorough, but it is :P11:16
arrrghhhor you just suck11:16
ryannathansbad sectors?11:16
Tandyman100doubtful.11:16
Tandyman100probably just winmo going "OMG SO MUCH DISK ACCESS I'M GOING TO CHOKE ON A DONG NOW"11:16
Tandyman100Also, any clues on NAND for the DIAM500?11:17
Tandyman100Any progress been made, or is it all TP2 and HD2 so far?11:17
ryannathansim still waiting for GSM so i can test it11:17
arrrghhhno body uses DIAM11:17
Tandyman100<- that guy does11:18
Tandyman100<- that guy can't afford better11:18
arrrghhhthen  wait11:18
ryannathans20$ disposable phone11:18
Tandyman100well, I need SOMETHING11:19
Tandyman100so I got a $20 diamond11:19
ryannathans:D11:19
Tandyman100yes, this diamond was $20 off of eBay. Perfect condition, too.11:19
ryannathanswin guess11:19
Tandyman100lol11:19
arrrghhhyou don't need something11:19
arrrghhhyou don't have cell service11:19
Tandyman100I wish I could've gotten a GSM one, but meh11:19
arrrghhhneeds != wants11:20
Tandyman100As I've said before I use this as a calendar, wifi internet, games, music, etc.11:20
Tandyman100it's BECOME a need :P11:20
ryannathansgames? eek.11:20
arrrghhhthose aren't needs11:20
arrrghhhnone of those things you've listed are needs.11:20
Tandyman100the calendar has made my life a lot easier though.11:20
arrrghhhmeh11:21
arrrghhhwhy do you want nand?11:21
arrrghhhit's so unfreakinstable right now11:21
ryannathans<3 slow internet that takes half a day to repo sync11:22
Tandyman100lol11:22
Tandyman100I'm just curious about nand11:22
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arrrghhhthere's some RAPH800 guy that got it working11:23
Tandyman100Oh really?11:23
arrrghhhbut... nothing works on it.  it boots, that's about it.11:23
Tandyman100lol11:23
arrrghhhyes, really.11:23
ryannathanscdma or gsm?11:23
arrrghhhdo you think i just make this stuff up to mess with you?11:23
arrrghhhryannathans, raph800 is cdma.11:23
Tandyman100raph800 is cdma11:23
Tandyman100ninja'd }:A11:23
ryannathansaww...11:23
arrrghhhhaha i even got his name in thar11:23
arrrghhhryannathans, how does that help you?  it's a raph lol not a rhod11:24
ryannathansi take it no one has got a gsm on nand yet11:24
Tandyman100and i realize asking 'really' is stupid, it's just a REALLY bad habit :P11:24
arrrghhhryannathans, yes it boots on gsm11:24
arrrghhhbut i thinks the SIM is an SD i think.11:24
arrrghhhthere was some lines to fix it11:24
arrrghhhi dunno, i have a cdma device.11:24
Tandyman100So does NAND basically involve a complete re-write?11:24
ryannathanslucky. :P11:24
arrrghhhcomplete rewrite?11:24
arrrghhhof what?11:24
Tandyman100It's not just an issue of rewriting the stuff that makes it boot?11:24
Tandyman100well11:25
Tandyman100wrong wording11:25
arrrghhhdamnit jim11:25
arrrghhhwhy are you asking these questions.11:25
arrrghhhyou won't understand the answers, even if i had them11:25
Tandyman100Ok, I'm just curious11:25
arrrghhhquit it11:25
Tandyman100lol11:26
arrrghhhlest i stab you11:26
Tandyman100Look out, it's CURIOUS JAKE11:26
arrrghhhcuriosity killed the jake?11:26
Tandyman100heh11:27
Tandyman100Watch it, or I'll connect all 7 of my clients to this channel all with "Tandy|" prefixes :P11:27
arrrghhhi'll just get 'em all banned.11:27
Tandyman100lol11:28
fishhead2567that reminds me, when i get done with finals, I'm gonna learn phenny-speak11:28
arrrghhhsounds useful11:28
Tandyman100that's the IRC bot, right?11:28
fishhead2567phenny is, phenny-speak is an equally unmaintained plugin for it11:29
fishhead2567i know phnny and have one deployed for my work11:29
arrrghhhwhy not supybot?11:29
arrrghhhi don't know much about irc bots.11:29
fishhead2567arrrghhh, me neither, i liked phenny's code, maybe i will check that one out11:29
arrrghhhi just know that's the kind of bot running on my server @ home :P11:29
fishhead2567and twisted makes good bots too11:29
arrrghhhyou build irc bots for work?11:29
fishhead2567but phenny-speak uses corpus analysis to generate more human responses to non program-related questions11:30
fishhead2567i built one =)11:30
Tandyman100lol11:30
arrrghhhnice11:30
Tandyman100best job ever.11:30
fishhead2567it controls our voip system11:30
arrrghhhreally?11:30
fishhead2567i tell it to call, AND IT CALLS!11:30
arrrghhhlol11:30
arrrghhhi don't see a need for that tho11:30
arrrghhhi manage the VoIP network at my office11:30
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fishhead2567ehh its good for our tech support guys (like me)11:30
arrrghhhand i see no need for an irc bot :P11:30
arrrghhhhow so?11:31
fishhead2567we can look up phonenumbers from the database instantly and call em, and it lets us transfer, and since we're a distributed network so i can ping the bot and it will tell me if someone is on the phone11:31
Tandyman100I just use a goddamn landline.11:31
* Tandyman100 runs11:31
arrrghhhhrm11:31
arrrghhhfishhead2567, what type of system?  cisco?11:31
fishhead2567arrrghhh, Speakeasy11:32
arrrghhhoh11:32
arrrghhhok11:32
fishhead2567mmhm. ccisco has call attendnat11:32
fishhead2567which does all that right?11:32
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arrrghhhyea i guess11:32
arrrghhhi wrote my own control phone script in AHK11:32
fishhead2567oh ok11:32
fishhead2567AHK>11:32
arrrghhhuses wget to post http to the phones11:32
fishhead2567er ?11:32
arrrghhhso i can mimmick user button presses remotely11:32
fishhead2567arrrghhh, oh okay. very similar =)11:32
arrrghhhautohotkey, osrry.11:32
arrrghhhsorry*11:33
fishhead2567just a different interface bot vs webscript =P i'll admit part of it was definately like "i  really wanna make a bot"11:33
arrrghhhyea, cisco's kinda dumb in some respects.  great enterprise phone system with all this control remotely... but some aspects they just let languish.11:33
arrrghhhfor example, they let you put a logo/bg on the phones11:33
arrrghhhbut provide NO method for pushing the logo.11:33
arrrghhhso that's where the script started from, i needed a way to push the logo to all 2,000+ phones.11:34
fishhead2567oh wow11:34
fishhead2567that's a lot of phones11:34
arrrghhhthen i realized, hey i could probably press any button on the phone doing this.11:34
arrrghhhso i polished it up a bit, and now i have a great script that allows me to control and take screens from any phone on the network.11:34
arrrghhhassuming it's connected of course :P11:34
fishhead2567that's rad11:35
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arrrghhhyea, i'm pretty proud of it.  wasn't easy either.  cisco exposes these awesome API's, and then doesn't document them for crap.11:36
fishhead2567yuup11:37
fishhead2567im having a similar problem11:37
marcroidhey, the problem is solved. thanks for your help11:38
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ryannathans94% repo sync for an hour, awesome11:41
arrrghhhget a better cxn?11:44
ryannathanscxn?11:45
arrrghhhconnection?11:46
arrrghhhinternets?11:46
arrrghhhhyperbrags?11:46
ray|sleep|desklol11:47
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ryannathanslong story. whoever laid the cables fails.11:48
ryannathanstheres 2 ways to the exchange and they took the 4km way instead of the 1km way11:48
ryannathansmate has similar situation and they went down the alley way and took 3km off the distance -.-11:49
Detuleor could it be that you didn't have much to sync?11:49
ryannathans400kb/s line11:50
ray|schoolhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/1224231489.png11:50
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Detule:) pretty good but mine is bigger :)11:53
arrrghhhlol11:53
arrrghhhe-penis11:54
ray|schoolthats my school connection,my home connection is faster for download,bt waaaaaay slower upload11:54
ryannathanswell im sorry im not on fibre yet11:54
arrrghhhi miss my 100/100 cxn i got at school :(11:54
ray|schoolI'm not on fiber11:55
arrrghhhgaming on that thing was amazing.11:55
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ryannathanscable?11:55
arrrghhhat school?  no, it was ethernet11:55
ray|schoolyeah11:55
arrrghhhand i'm sure fiber was running into the campus11:55
ryannathansbrb relocating to room11:55
arrrghhhlol were you outside before?11:56
Detulemy home connection: ~ DL: 100KB/s took me a few days to sync the repo11:57
arrrghhhlol11:57
arrrghhhdamn11:57
arrrghhhmeeting time bbl11:57
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Tandyman100lol11:58
ryannathansback ;)12:04
ryannathanswe would not live without putty12:05
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Tandyman100lol12:15
ryannathansi want to make a simple app for android that does lookups on a database i own and control, where do i start?12:16
rpierce99http://www.google.com12:17
rpierce99lol12:17
ryannathansno joke, google isnt working atm for my ISP12:18
rpierce99i assume you mean a centralized database, not a sqlite3 database on the phone?12:18
ryannathansexternal links failure12:18
ryannathansi own a MySQL database with a php website, using a control pannel i wrote you can add information, with a simple app i want to be able to retrive/edit/add rows12:19
rpierce99assuming it is exposed as a web service, you'll need to use the android apis for get and post web requests12:20
ryannathansrage quit12:20
ryannathansi will probably just end up writing a mobile optimise control pannel12:21
ryannathansrpierce99: you a gamer?12:25
rpierce99not as much as I used to be12:25
rpierce99really excited for portal 2 though12:25
rpierce99i've been playing lots of nintendo VC though, love the old games12:25
ryannathansokay, say you still were, would the ability to register clan names and keep them unique accross platforms appeal to you?12:26
rpierce99how would it be enforced12:26
ryannathansthats the only question that beats my system D:12:26
rpierce99the real value would be in no one being able to use it, otherwise it's virtually useless12:27
ryannathansI basically have everything written, the only issue remmaining is enforcement12:28
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ryannathanstheres no chance on changing anything game sided12:30
ryannathansproblem solved, almost ;)12:33
ryannathansauth keys required by members of that group, joins them to the clan via forign key in the database and clan member has management over users in their clan, it would only work in our own servers though - it's a start12:35
ryannathansim heading off to write this code, night guys12:36
* ray|school wants potal 2 now12:46
ray|schoolright now12:46
rpierce99go play the potato sack game12:51
rpierce99s12:51
rpierce99and help get it released early12:52
fishhead2567ray|school, i think portal dropped this morning didnt it?12:54
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Tandyman100I forgot how much I loved the Android music player12:54
fishhead2567ray|school, they posted a big thing with a countdown to this morning12:54
fishhead2567at 9 am12:54
fishhead2567on the aperturescience AR game forum12:54
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rpierce99fishhead2567: no, the countdown ended with a page http://www.aperturescience.com/glados@home/12:54
fishhead2567oh i see12:55
fishhead2567so i really is play the game for faster launch12:55
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20110415_205352) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110415_205352-package.tar.bz215:02
arrrghhhw00t15:02
arrrghhhnew kernels15:02
rpierce99that's what the google login is for, googlecode.com15:03
arrrghhhlies15:03
arrrghhhlunchtime, bbl15:03
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Tandyman100oh sweet, new kernel15:04
* Tandyman100 downloads :D15:04
toadlifenew kernel from wistilt2?15:08
toadlifeoh nm. ;P15:08
rpierce99there will be a new test kernel posted soon, but no he's talking about a new autobuild kernel15:08
toadlifeyeah.15:08
rpierce99the new test kernel will only add scbs code15:08
toadlifelooking forward to scbs. Battery meter is annoying the way it hops around15:09
hycscbs requires training. some folks prefer a no-effort-required solution, even if it sucks15:18
hycgoogling "CGAATT" sucks. most of the search results are DNA sequences and papers on DNA15:19
rpierce99add -DNA or NOT DNA, whatever the google syntax is15:22
hycyeah, did that15:22
hycstill getting mostly hits on base-pair sequences15:22
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Tandyman100wohoo!17:30
Tandyman100I broke android again :D17:30
toadlifeIs that really an accomplishment ;P17:38
Tandyman100>:P17:40
Tandyman100well, i guess it sort of broke itself17:40
Tandyman100keeps going into deep sleep17:40
Tandyman100sort of an "it's fallen and i can't get it up!" thing17:40
toadlifeRight now I'm comparing the performance of android on my rhodium using different file allocation sizes on the sdcard. default is 4096k, but 8192 seems to give slightly better filesystem performance.17:41
toadlifeAhh the old sleep of death17:41
Tandyman100yeah17:42
Tandyman100I'll try the new kernel that came out this afternoon17:42
toadlifeI struggled with that for a long time with my phone in Windows Mobile.  Finally cooked up a rom with the right ingredients and it went away17:42
ray|schoolis that the one i was testing like 2 days ago?17:42
Tandyman100hmm17:49
Tandyman100I'm thinking of switching ROMs anyways17:49
hycwtf, xda-developers forum just changed17:53
rpierce99how so?17:54
Tandyman100it did?17:55
hycthe color scheme is all different than 10 minutes ago17:55
hycand the Thank buttons are gone17:55
Tandyman100looks the same to me O_o17:55
rpierce99you must have changed your theme, or the changes are rolling across multiple servers, because mine are the same17:55
Tandyman100hm17:55
g3rmhyc: classic theme kicked in most probably17:56
hycI just have USe Forum Default17:56
hycOK, I set it to XDA 201017:57
hycso they toggled the default at some point...17:57
Tandyman100lol17:58
g3rmok... anyone tried speedtest app recently?17:58
g3rmit's freezing my phone every time :S17:58
rpierce99my forum skin Use Forum Default17:58
rpierce99and it looks the same17:59
hycbizarre17:59
hycI was in the middle of reloading a page and it all just changed...17:59
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g3rmyea the same thing happened to me few days ago18:00
toadlifeI had that happen. Had to go to my profile and toggle the forum themes back and forth.18:01
hycok, AT+HTCAGPS_AUTOCS=1 crashed my phone. oops18:06
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stinebdtook my dryer apart today. can't believe how simple those things are18:51
stinebdmaybe i'll feel differently about it when i try to put it back together18:52
arrrghhhwhy did you take it apart?18:52
arrrghhhlol18:52
stinebdit wasn't working18:52
arrrghhhgood reason18:52
stinebdmotor was running and the drum wasn't tumbling18:52
arrrghhhOo...18:52
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stinebdthe tensioner pulley broke so the belt came loose from that and the motor spindle18:53
arrrghhhdamn18:53
stinebdi was afraid it was worse than that because it was rattling like crazy, turns out it was just the spindle rolling the pulley around18:53
arrrghhhnice18:54
arrrghhhwell hopefully you can put it back together :P18:54
stinebdso the new pulley will be here some time next week, until then i can use a blow torch to dry my clothes18:54
arrrghhhlmao18:54
arrrghhhhair dryer? hahaha18:54
stinebdlike 12 bucks for one of those things. and a repair call would be maybe 150ish18:54
stinebdi wonder how much a new dryer will be when it turns out i can't put it back together :P18:55
arrrghhhyea, no joke.18:55
arrrghhhbwhahaha18:55
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arrrghhhbrb, gotta figure out why this WAP isn't working18:55
Migait'18:56
stinebdcan't imagine life before the internet18:56
Migas 'cuz it hates you arrrghhh18:56
stinebdall these little appliance problems would be crazy without youtube18:57
rpierce99stinebd: agreed, i've youtube-fixed my washer, dryer, and oven18:58
rpierce99has to be bad news for the maytag guys though18:58
stinebdnah, still lots of old people alive18:58
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ray|schoollol19:00
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Tandyman100howdy19:03
ray|schoolhi19:03
stinebdrpierce99: what was wrong with the washer?19:04
rpierce99agitator dogs19:04
stinebddogs?19:04
ray|schoolgets stuck19:04
stinebdoh19:04
rpierce99little pieces of plastic that are basically designed to break19:04
stinebdsurely after the warranty19:05
ray|schoolof course19:05
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stinebdcool, that looks fairly simple19:06
stinebdi'll keep that in mind if stuff stops agitating19:06
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toadlifeour washer doesn't spin if the load is too big.19:10
toadlifeWe just give it a push19:10
toadlifesomeone i'll have to break down and take it apart and probably replace a belt or something19:10
stinebdlol19:11
ray|schoollol19:11
stinebdthat's great, gotta get out and push your washer19:11
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toadlifeCool washer hack: bypass the lidswitch, so it will spin with the lid open19:11
ray|phoneor have a washer with a clear lid like me19:12
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toadlifehmmmm19:12
ray|phoneinternet issues arrrghhh?19:12
rpierce99hyc: that's a neat winmo trick for the htc logs, i don't see any quickgps stuff in there though sadly19:13
ray|phonesomeone earlier said there was a new kernel today,any changes that would help me?19:14
ray|phoneRHOD400 in gsm mode btw19:14
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Tandyman100<toadlife> Cool washer hack: bypass the lidswitch, so it will spin with the lid open19:21
Tandyman100YES19:21
Tandyman100SO MUCH THAT19:21
Tandyman100As a kid, I would lift the lid up EVER SO SLIGHTLY so I could peer in without it stopping :D19:21
Tandyman100even better, wire the switch to an external toggle so you can have a 'pause' button :D19:22
hycrpierce99: ok, too bad19:22
toadlifeYeah, you just have to take the lid switch apart and connect the two wires, so it allways thinks the lid is closed19:22
hycI found that AT@STARTGPS crashed my phone19:22
toadlifeIve never had a new washer..always gotten them use from craigslist, so i've had to replace a few lid switches.19:23
toadlifeheh. a pause button19:23
hycalso found that AT@AGPSADDRESS was set to a t-mobile address, so in this particular case there was no need to explicitly set it19:24
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hyclbs.geo.t-mobile.com19:26
rpierce99hyc: i can send you the log if you want, but it looked like all the same stuff i see in my android logs19:26
hycsure, send it anyway19:27
hycdid you get anything showing EvDO A or 0 ?19:27
rpierce99winmo doesn't say which one i'm in19:27
hycI mean, was your phone status showing EvDOA19:27
hycok19:27
rpierce99it's just Ev19:27
hychm, it seems to send the same set of init commands as GSM gets, for the most part19:30
hycI can probably consolidate more of the init code then19:30
hycI think we have AT+CPPP=2 in ours. I wonder what that means :P19:30
hycHTCmaskW119:31
hyc+HTCAGPS=619:31
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ray|phonehyc,it being set to a tmobile specific address explains why I have good gps,but some others have crappy gps,I am using t-mobile in my tp219:35
ray|phonemine locks on to 1 meter accuracy within like 15 seconds19:36
ray|phonealways19:36
hycray: my point is, I believe the address is automatically set to whatever network you connected to19:36
ray|phoneahh19:36
ray|phoneignore me then19:36
hycor, that T-Mobile at least, tells your phone what to use19:36
hycbut we'd need other people to check that to verify19:36
hycI doubt it would be programmed into a rom19:37
hycbut wouldn't that suck if it's part of your radio rom?19:37
ray|phonewhere would it be? I can put my tp2 on my friend's sprint account to test if needed.19:37
hycso if you've flashed a radio that was distributed for T-mobile and you're on AT&T, you'd have the wrong default address...19:38
ray|phoneI am using tmobile on a sprint radio,so mine would definitely be confused19:38
hycthe two commands to check are AT@AGPSTLSHOSTNAME?19:38
hycand AT@AGPSADDRESS?19:38
ray|phonelooks like something I would enter in hyperterminal in modem mode?19:39
hycif that works for you, sure19:40
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hycrpierce99: yeah looks pretty typical. but if you can do it again, could you start and stop a data connection? and also test call waiting. and call conference if you have it, 3-way calling, whatever it is.19:43
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rpierce99it's freaking snowing20:36
ray|phonesnowing? its 49 degrees here20:40
arrrghhhhyc, still can't built.20:42
arrrghhhbuild*20:42
arrrghhhstine said he didn't change anything...20:43
arrrghhhbut i just did another fresh sync, and it keeps failing on the same spot.20:43
arrrghhhi've done this before, so i don't know what's up..20:43
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stinebdwhat's the error?20:51
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arrrghhhthere's several, let me paste20:52
arrrghhhstinebd, http://pastebin.com/VrfSWR9E20:53
stinebdwhat does make librpc do?20:56
arrrghhhtryin20:57
arrrghhhno rule to make target 'librpc'.  stop.c20:57
arrrghhhdo i need to cd to a directory?20:57
stinebdno20:58
arrrghhhi'm just at the root of the local repo20:58
stinebdhardware/msm7k/librpc is missing20:58
arrrghhhwhere i would normally build20:58
arrrghhhhrm20:58
arrrghhhit is thar20:58
arrrghhhthe folder at least is20:58
stinebdor isn't in the subdir list20:58
stinebdyou did repo init -u git://blahblah -b froyo?20:58
stinebdno named manifest or anything20:59
arrrghhhyes20:59
arrrghhhlet me doublecheck the command20:59
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stinebdand your build system is configured right?21:00
arrrghhhno named manifest... that sounds like i did f up21:00
arrrghhhi put in repo init -u git://gitorious.org/xdandroid/manifest.git -b froyo21:00
stinebdthat's fine21:00
arrrghhhit built a good image a couple days ago21:00
arrrghhhi manually did some of hyc's changes on my own21:00
arrrghhhwanted to test that phone.apk change21:00
stinebdhis changes to what?21:00
arrrghhhand that worked21:00
arrrghhhwell i guess it was more than a couple of days ago21:00
arrrghhhbut it's the same system.21:00
stinebdanyway21:01
stinebdyou have buildspec.mk in there right?21:01
arrrghhhcrap i don't in this folder21:02
arrrghhhi should in my other one tho 1 sec21:02
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arrrghhhbuilding... let's see.21:07
arrrghhhmake: *** No rule to make target `vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietary/libgps.so', needed by `out/target/product/msm/obj/lib/libgps.so'.  Stop.21:07
arrrghhhwtf?21:07
arrrghhhdid i screw something up by trying to build w/o that buildspec.mk?21:08
stinebdunzip-files21:08
ray|phoneI'll try building when I get home21:08
arrrghhhstinebd, do i have to re-run that?21:08
arrrghhhi ran that before...21:08
arrrghhhi wonder if some update broke it.21:08
arrrghhhi had to put java back to 1.5, i think some update borked that.21:09
arrrghhhdamn.  evidently i do have to re-run that unzip-files script.21:10
arrrghhhgood to know, thanks.21:11
arrrghhhmake: *** No rule to make target `vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietary/libgps.so', needed by `out/target/product/msm/obj/lib/libgps.so'.  Stop.21:12
arrrghhhdamnit21:12
stinebdwhy don't you start over and follow the wiki21:12
arrrghhhlol ok21:13
arrrghhhi shall do so... with yet another folder21:13
arrrghhhi guess i should delete these others21:13
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arrrghhhstinebd, o yea what about the libs?  jb said smth about frx06 not having the correct ones?21:46
stinebdhow specific21:46
stinebdgonna need a bigger hint than that21:46
arrrghhhlol21:46
arrrghhhuhm21:46
arrrghhhthe cam libs21:46
arrrghhhthat jb gave you21:46
stinebdthey went into the build tree verbatim21:46
arrrghhhlet me find his post21:46
arrrghhhhold on21:47
arrrghhhhrm, wrong codec he says?21:47
arrrghhhhere's the post21:47
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12701861&postcount=100021:48
stinebdsigh21:49
stinebdguess it's my fault i didn't merge the changes he didn't send me21:49
stinebdgotta teach this kid git21:50
hycthat would probably make things run more smoothly...21:51
stinebdpushed21:54
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Tandyman100wtf.... 600kb/s through USB 2.0 is pathetic.22:11
JesusFreak316trololol22:15
stinebdno it's pretty pathetic22:15
arrrghhhno joke22:15
arrrghhhwhy isn't everything reported in bytes22:16
Tandyman100lol22:16
arrrghhhi hate how they report things in bits.22:16
arrrghhhand in reality, in bytes.22:16
arrrghhhPICK ONE22:16
stinebdbandwidth is bitwise for a reason22:16
Tandyman100yah22:17
arrrghhhelaborate22:17
stinebdfuck if i know what the reason is, but there is one22:17
JesusFreak316Is dividing by 8 so awful?22:17
arrrghhhlol22:17
arrrghhhlol no22:17
arrrghhhbut it's confusing to the uninitiated22:17
stinebdgigabit sounds a lot better than hundredtwelvepointfivemegabit22:17
arrrghhhi know the difference22:17
arrrghhhstinebd, yup, that's the reason.22:17
arrrghhhmarketing.22:17
arrrghhhsame reason they lie about disk space.22:17
JesusFreak316Well, in that case it's a pretty 128 MB.22:17
stinebdwell no that's quite a bit different22:18
arrrghhhlook at the bytes, lop off the 0's22:18
arrrghhhdon't account for 1024, round at 100022:18
arrrghhhyes it's very different, but the end result is the same.22:18
JesusFreak316Would gigabit internet be 1000mb/s or 1024 mb/s?22:18
stinebdone is an underhanded attempt to make hard drives seem bigger to consumers22:18
stinebdthe other is a legitimate design specification decision22:19
arrrghhhheh22:19
JesusFreak316I've never seen them advertise HDD's with bits.22:19
arrrghhhfair enough22:19
stinebdJesusFreak316: with hard drives, it's binary bytes vs decimal bytes22:19
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, no they're never going to say buy a 1,000,000,000 bit hdd22:19
stinebdie 1KiB = 1024 vs 1KB = 100022:19
arrrghhhindeed22:19
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arrrghhhdamn that lowercase i22:20
arrrghhhwait i thought it was the other way around22:20
JesusFreak316Oh yeah, that. I was thinking you were saying they would report the size in bits not bites, as in calling a 128GB drive a 1 tb drive.22:20
JesusFreak316I have seen what you described.22:20
Tandyman100lol22:20
arrrghhhlook at ANY hard disk.22:21
JesusFreak316Tandyman100: looks like fakker's not here to troll you; congrats. :)22:21
JesusFreak316I wanna update xdandroid on my fuze but I don't have an extra sd. :( I sold my 2gb to my brother for his nook color.22:22
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, fakker doesn't come in hurrr22:22
stinebdsteal his nook color22:22
JesusFreak316I got an 8gb with my hd2 but have no idea where it is.22:22
JesusFreak316stinebd: and?22:22
stinebdtake the sd card out of it22:22
arrrghhhlol22:22
JesusFreak316Nah, he needs it more than I do.22:22
stinebdthose are sweet tablets btw22:23
JesusFreak316Yeah.22:23
arrrghhhi'm thinkin about getting one22:23
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arrrghhhfor the price, seems it can't be beat.22:23
JesusFreak316Specswise, they're a tad weak but you can't beat it for the price and the screen is amazing.22:23
stinebdarrrghhh: you wanna take some cash outta the war chest to help with it?22:23
arrrghhhsure22:23
stinebdlet me know your paypal info22:24
* arrrghhh @gmail.com22:24
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JesusFreak316If you don't care about screen as much: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/15/viewsonic-g-tablet-overclocked-to-1-4ghz-goes-on-sale-to-celebr/22:24
arrrghhhoh yea ndno got one o those22:25
* JesusFreak316 is probably gonna wait for a cortex a 15 before getting a real smartphone. :P22:25
arrrghhhwhat is that hd2 that you don't use?  chopped liver?  :P22:25
JesusFreak316Not chopped liver; just my ridiculously hackable toy phone. :)22:26
stinebdarrrghhh: oh god i got your real name!22:26
* stinebd wipes it from memory22:26
JesusFreak316O.o22:26
arrrghhhstinebd, lol22:27
stinebdmoneys sent btw22:27
arrrghhhyea that's about the one place i have it22:27
stinebdit won't cover it all but it'll help22:27
arrrghhhi don't really care.22:27
arrrghhhawesome man22:27
stinebdas always, thanks for everything22:27
JesusFreak316My name's on my twitter; meh, I don't care.22:27
arrrghhhstinebd, thank you sir22:27
JesusFreak316Loving CM7 final.22:28
JesusFreak316Not that different, just seems somewhat speedier.. THat could just be because I made my wallpaper static. :P22:28
JesusFreak316pee break22:29
arrrghhhstinebd, you certainly don't seem shy with your real name :P22:30
stinebdarrrghhh: if you figure it out, you win 17 internets22:30
arrrghhhbwhahahaha22:30
arrrghhhnot exactly hard.22:30
stinebdperhaps that's what i want you to think22:30
arrrghhhabout the one piece of your name i don't know is the middle.  i'm sure the initial is D22:30
arrrghhheh, would be an interesting ruse.22:31
arrrghhhsteal someone's identity, but only online.22:31
arrrghhhdamn why did i think the nook was $15022:31
rpierce99nook is, not color22:31
rpierce99or nook is at least closer22:31
arrrghhhah22:31
stinebdarrrghhh: so what, you want more or something? sheesh22:32
arrrghhhnah22:32
arrrghhhi'm just going to buy drugs with it tho22:32
stinebdget gps working and i'll send you another $1522:32
arrrghhhbwhahahha22:33
arrrghhhtold my gf i was going to buy a nook color22:44
arrrghhhher response?  "how nice for you"22:44
ryannathansrofl22:44
arrrghhhlol22:44
rpierce99she'll be playin angry birds on that thing before you can say sudo make me a sandwich22:45
arrrghhhreusing that again eh?  :P22:46
rpierce99first thing that came to mind that someone would say22:46
rpierce99haha22:46
stinebdThis may cause thong off during use, please replace the customers have to shop near you.22:51
stinebdbest google translation ever22:51
arrrghhhwow22:52
stinebdon the site for japan's krispy kreme franchise22:52
stinebd(mister donut)22:52
arrrghhhwow23:01
arrrghhhscreen protectors are not cheap.23:01
arrrghhhyet i am really cheap... crap.23:01
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JesusFreak316I got 3 screen protectors, a silicone case, an ac to usb, a dc to usb, and a usb cable for $15 on Amazon. Just saying. Probably not the best quality but works for me.23:05
arrrghhhjeez23:06
arrrghhhyea i'm looking at spending more than that on just the screen protector.23:06
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stinebdthe bn screen protector is nice23:22
stinebdwhen i got it from best buy it had an easel cover and a screen protector for free23:24
stinebdand i'm pretty sure the easel cover was worth like 50 bucks23:24
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arrrghhhdid you get the anti-reflective one stinebd ?23:25
stinebdno :(23:26
arrrghhhdo you think that would be worth it?23:26
arrrghhhsame price.23:26
stinebdnot sure23:26
arrrghhhi don't know if it affects viewability in non-outside situations.23:26
stinebdthey say it diminishes screen quality a bit23:26
arrrghhhyea23:26
arrrghhhhrm23:26
stinebdthe regular one is crystal clear though23:26
arrrghhhi'll probably get it.23:26
arrrghhhdamn.23:26
stinebdand i haven't seen sunlight in like 4 months so for me it made more sense23:27
arrrghhhi need a raise.23:27
arrrghhhlol23:27
arrrghhhi see sunlight sometimes, but i'm usually not messing around with electronics when i do.23:27
arrrghhhoh well.  i do really want one, and you've basically made me get one.  you jerk.23:27
stinebdhey that money didn't have any obligations of intended use included with it23:28
arrrghhhi noes23:28
arrrghhhwell, it kinda did :P23:28
arrrghhhbut i know it was advisory in nature only23:29
rpierce99i think it was more like an excuse23:29
arrrghhhheh23:29
arrrghhha damn fine one.23:29
arrrghhhlol neopeek finished clockworkmod.  what a madman, i don't see why he put this much work into SD builds lol.23:30
arrrghhhok maybe it's not that funny23:30
arrrghhhbut he is a madman.23:31
hyche should've done amon-ra instead23:32
hycclockwork is incompatible with a lot of roms23:32
arrrghhhreally?23:32
hycon the G1 I see it frequently23:32
stinebdand people bitched at us for working on camera and bluetooth instead of "fixing what's broken"23:32
arrrghhhi don't know why he bothered at all.  on nand it makes sense.23:33
hyc"won't install with clockwork" ...23:33
arrrghhhstinebd, yea you think neopeek cares?  he doesn't even finish his own builds lol23:33
stinebdi saw tiad's forums23:34
stinebdone thing i found incredibly amusing was that he copied and modified an xda announcement post regarding a copyright license23:34
arrrghhhyea23:34
arrrghhhand basically anything else he could find23:34
arrrghhhhe made his own FAQ with ours copypasta'd.23:35
stinebdat least our stuff is public domain23:35
stinebdxda's posts are certainly copyrighted23:35
arrrghhhi don't see why he refused to play ball23:36
arrrghhhhe didn't really listen to anyone tho.23:36
stinebdi'm going to assume it was the language barrier23:36
stinebdWE DIDNT TYPE IN ENOUGH CAPS23:36
arrrghhhi showed him why sleep_mode=0,1,2,3 would just get ignored, and he still said "it works well for me"23:36
arrrghhhlol23:36
arrrghhhi dunno23:36
arrrghhhthere was definitely a language barrier23:37
arrrghhhbut i've been able to communicate with people who know a lot less english than he does.23:37
arrrghhhperhaps i should've tried screaming.23:37
stinebdyou don't deal with pennsylvania dominicans enough to understand how they work23:38
stinebdthere's about a 10 to 1 output to input ratio. seriously. that's just how they are23:38
arrrghhhi guess they're frequent in that state?23:39
stinebdwell a lot of pennsylvanians in general are like that23:39
stinebdstupid assholes23:39
arrrghhhall i know about that state is yuengling isn't shipped west really, and that pisses me off.23:39
stinebdanyway yes, lots of dominicans especially in the east23:41
arrrghhhhuh23:41
arrrghhhi live in little mexico here in colorado.23:42
stinebdkinda weird if you ask me. you'd think they would go for cities or places where there's work and you have a future23:42
arrrghhhlmao23:42
arrrghhhsteel mills sound impressive23:42
stinebdfrankly i don't understand why anybody would move to this area23:42
arrrghhhuntil you visit them23:42
stinebdwe've got one industry that's not in the red and that's hospitals because all the old people are very near death23:43
arrrghhhbwhahahahaa23:43
arrrghhhwould be fun to ride a bike tron-style23:44
arrrghhhcutting someone off brings whole new meaning.23:45
stinebdi would want one of those things that the chick was driving23:45
stinebdand possibly the chick23:46
arrrghhhshe is hot23:49
arrrghhhand has a crazy vehicle23:49
arrrghhhdune buggy thing23:49
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arrrghhhi don't know her name23:52
arrrghhhshe's hotter on house23:52
stinebdolivia wilde23:53

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