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| meTOO_ | i'm just wondering wat do u guys use? frx06 or gbx0a? | 03:37 |
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| meTOO_ | right now i'm using frx06 but im thinking about gbx0a | 03:38 |
| meTOO_ | is there a big differnce? | 03:38 |
| Loof | Quick question, when you flash a rom via clockwork mod (zip) does that update the kernel as well... or should I be updating the kernel via odin ahead of tiem? | 03:38 |
| Loof | (This is a Samsung Captivate, if it makes a difference) | 03:39 |
| ORi| | yes, rom includes kernel | 03:41 |
| Loof | Ah, ok, I was doing an extra step each time then :) | 03:47 |
| Loof | I'm curious, why do a lot of roms have a 'kernel only' download? | 03:53 |
| Loof | Seems a little pointless, especially when they're using someone else's kernel...and it gets installed by recovery | 03:54 |
| hyc | because you tend to experiment with different kernels more often | 03:56 |
| hyc | while leaving the rest of the build untouched | 03:57 |
| Loof | Makes some sense... though I've not seen too many kernel updates... at least not as compared to rom updates... the last week or so that I've owned the phone :) | 04:02 |
| ORi| | the kernel is the heart of the OS, it doesn't tend to change that much once it's stable | 04:12 |
| ORi| | unless some specific support is added | 04:12 |
| ORi| | a rom is something else obviously. it's tweaked to taste | 04:13 |
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| hyc | Well, the Linux kernel revs pretty often. The Android source, not so much. | 04:19 |
| hyc | On my G1 the commonly used kernels range from 2.6.34 thru 2.6.37, with work on 2.6.38 and 2.6.39 in some people's repos | 04:20 |
| hyc | on the XDAndroid port we've been stuck on the 2.6.27 kernel since forever | 04:21 |
| hyc | I really wish these guys would collaborate with other kernel devs more | 04:21 |
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| ryannathans | ^^ agree with hyc | 04:29 |
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| madplaya1 | is there any workarounds for 3.5 jack? | 11:42 |
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| helicopter88 | Heya all | 13:04 |
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| helicopter88 | thedeadcpu,should i see your interview? | 13:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 13:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's horrid | 13:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | The audio and video is fucked up | 13:10 |
| helicopter88 | oh ok | 13:10 |
| helicopter88 | will you do another one? | 13:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | probably not | 13:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | We had enough problems anyways | 13:13 |
| helicopter88 | The interviewer is from japan? | 13:14 |
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| TheDeadCPU | ja | 13:39 |
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| Ray|yaR | hyc what do you want me to test? I'll try it when I get home in like 20 minutes,this computer is staying on,so I'll have the link if I'm not still on. | 14:35 |
| hyc | grab the latest stuff from my thread post #6 | 14:37 |
| Ray|yaR | link? I'm on remote desktop over edge,its really slow | 14:38 |
| hyc | 1 sec | 14:39 |
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12403862&postcount=6 | 14:39 |
| Ray|yaR | with my build that is already running the test ril and rootfs,I just follow the instructions in the post? | 14:41 |
| hyc | pretty much | 14:42 |
| hyc | you're still running an otherwise stock rootfs? | 14:42 |
| hyc | if so then just extracting all the new files will be fine | 14:42 |
| Ray|yaR | f22's with the changes arrrghhh had me do yesterday | 14:43 |
| Ray|yaR | or whatever day that was | 14:43 |
| hyc | ok, then you're going to have to patch /init by hand | 14:43 |
| hyc | and make sure not to overwrite your /init with the one in the rootnew.zip file | 14:43 |
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| toadlife | So what does "NO LG! NO!" refer to? LG devices? Do they make a msm7k device? | 15:05 |
| Ray|yaR | none that i know of. | 15:09 |
| hyc | F22: would love it if you integrate my rootfs changes with yours | 15:10 |
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| Ray|yaR | what rootfs changes would those be? | 15:11 |
| hyc | the ones you already have | 15:11 |
| Ray|yaR | oh | 15:11 |
| Ray|yaR | ill be home in like 5 minutes,im on my tp2 using windows remote desktop | 15:12 |
| Ray|yaR | connecting to a computer roughly 300 miles away | 15:12 |
| hyc | awesome | 15:14 |
| Ray|yaR | yeah | 15:15 |
| Ray|yaR | and whats funny is tat my phone is higher resolution than the screen that is actually connected to it. it has a little like 7" lcd connected to it that it that is 640x480 | 15:17 |
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| Ray|yaR | ok,im home. ill test in a few minutes. | 15:19 |
| hyc | cool | 15:20 |
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| hyc | also lemme know if in-call audio is any different than before | 15:20 |
| Ray|yaR | ok,it was kind of buzz like before. | 15:21 |
| Ray|yaR | ill try it on the new one and see if its better | 15:21 |
| hyc | or if it's worse, any change is significant | 15:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: I'm using the post 6 setup on CDMA (I don't have the LATEST ril right now. Probably 1 behind). I put in the build.prop changes in post 2 including the ro.cdma.home.operator.* changes and I still get the roaming indicator | 15:27 |
| hyc | NeoMatrixJR: roaming indicator mostly depends on eri.xml | 15:27 |
| hyc | There are a couple places in the framework where it uses ro.cdma.home.operator but it's very inconsistent from what I could see so far | 15:28 |
| hyc | but what is known for sure is that it is used for North American dialing code | 15:28 |
| hyc | (operator numeric ID) | 15:29 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | where does eri.xml live? | 15:29 |
| hyc | I don't remember, sorry | 15:30 |
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| hyc | there's a compiled one in framework-res.apk | 15:30 |
| hyc | you can override it tho | 15:30 |
| hyc | search for the details | 15:30 |
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| hyc | So, extUSB audio headset works fine, but there's no headset icon in the status bar | 15:32 |
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| hyc | strange... | 15:32 |
| hyc | hey arrrghhh | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | what's up | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | aw, fish isn't here. | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. | 15:33 |
| hyc | not much. Ray is about to test the new worldphone ril | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | awesome. | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not tryin to be a dick in that kernel testing thread | 15:33 |
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| arrrghhh | i just don't have that issue | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's something with his setup | 15:33 |
| hyc | I know | 15:33 |
| Ray|Remote | ok,hyc: I have no idea how to patch the init script,so if I go back to stock rootfs and follow the instructions in the thread,that'll work? | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | i can disable/enable data no problems with that kernel. | 15:33 |
| hyc | Ray: you can just rename F22's init script to init.bak | 15:34 |
| hyc | and use mine | 15:34 |
| hyc | you will lose fancy button remappings and such in the meantime | 15:34 |
| Ray|Remote | ok | 15:34 |
| Ray|Remote | I use the button remappings in the keylayouts file,his remappings dont work for me | 15:34 |
| hyc | ok | 15:34 |
| Ray|Remote | so mine should still be fine | 15:34 |
| hyc | then perhaps you don't lose anything ;) | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 15:34 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I can test the worldphone ril too, but i can't test GSM out. IS there anything strictly CDMA you need tested on that RIL? | 15:35 |
| hyc | Just test that it still works | 15:35 |
| Ray|Remote | you test cdma I'll test gsm | 15:35 |
| hyc | oh, also tell me if the audio is the same as before or different | 15:35 |
| hyc | the rootfs files have changed again, so the same consideration applies. if you're on F22's rootfs, backup your /init before installing my rootnew.zip | 15:36 |
| hyc | I wonder if you can run my Phone.apk or you need one signed by a particular key | 15:37 |
| NeoMatrixJR | so if I did your root changes once they need to be done again? | 15:37 |
| hyc | yes, with latest files | 15:37 |
| hyc | actually .. | 15:38 |
| NeoMatrixJR | same procedure? | 15:38 |
| hyc | yes | 15:38 |
| hyc | it's not critical that you update that, lemme think | 15:38 |
| hyc | all that's changed in the new files is a check for /dev/smd7 instead of /dev/smd1 | 15:38 |
| hyc | but you can keep using the old ones, because /dev/smd1 works regardless | 15:38 |
| hyc | so go ahead and leave rootfs alone if you've already updated it before | 15:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I can always check the ril, then do the changes then check again :) | 15:39 |
| hyc | ok | 15:39 |
| hyc | at the beginning of the radiolog you should see "running on a world phone" | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, seems like you've got plenty of testers today :P | 15:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | slightly ot, but does anyone use WinMo HTC Peep still at all when they're in WinMo? Mine seems broken. | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | i'll just lurk, i've got a lot of crap to do @ work. | 15:40 |
| hyc | cool, ttyl arrrghhh | 15:40 |
| hyc | I dunno what HTC Peep is, and I only use winmo to boot | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | weird, glemsom's site built the kernel | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | but the main site didn't update it. | 15:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | woah...definately not right! | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | the kernel is on code.google.com, but not on the 'main' autobuild site. | 15:41 |
| hyc | also occasionally to switch USB storage on when I need to update files without android running | 15:41 |
| NeoMatrixJR | brb... can't type! | 15:42 |
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| Tandyman100 | yeah! Looks like I'll be able to use XDAndroid again! | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | do i want to know? | 15:42 |
| Tandyman100 | My diam500 just got here :D | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | enjoy that piece of poo | 15:42 |
| Tandyman100 | $20, near-mint condition. | 15:42 |
| Tandyman100 | It'll do 'till I can get an HD2 | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:42 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, it amuses me that you have the misfortune of always being online at the same time as me. | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | or am i just always oneline | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | online* | 15:43 |
| Tandyman100 | s/online/active in the channel | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not always online. | 15:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: holy CRAP! was running radiolog live when it said it was switching from CDMAphone to GSMphone and then it just started dumping a CRAPTON of stuff at warp speed! I couldn't move my mouse it was taking up too many resources on my PC! | 15:43 |
| Ray|Remote | NeoMatrixJR: peep is broken since twitter did some changes a few months ago,htc doesnt care enough to fix it on the tp2 | 15:44 |
| Tandyman100 | heh, whoever owned this previously flashed mightyROM on it. | 15:44 |
| * Tandyman100 throws up and then boots xdandroid | 15:44 | |
| Tandyman100 | hmmm... it appears to've hung at 'mdp_dma: busy' | 15:45 |
| hyc | NeoMatrixJR: bummer. nowadays I always use "adb logcat -v time -b radio | tee /tmp/radiolog" | 15:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Ray|Remote: actually I think they posted a fix for 4 phones, but when I try to run it it says I have an incompatable device. Might be because I have MightyROM. | 15:45 |
| Tandyman100 | ..nevermind, I'm just impatient | 15:45 |
| Ray|Remote | probably,I know on my stock rom it doesnt work,I havent bothered with winmo enough to care | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i redirect output, why do you pipe it to tee? | 15:46 |
| hyc | because redirecting to a file makes it block buffered | 15:46 |
| hyc | whereas tee is line buffered | 15:46 |
| * arrrghhh stares blankly | 15:46 | |
| hyc | if you Ctrl-C it, you might lose stuff at the end of a block | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | interesting. | 15:47 |
| hyc | with tee you won't lose more than the last line of output | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | you're just full of useful information. | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | now, fix java on my work pc. | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:47 |
| hyc | rm -rf /usr/bin/java* | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | winxp | 15:47 |
| hyc | oh well. | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | (i wasn't serious) | 15:47 |
| Ray|Remote | according to what I was reading earlier I can ditch N.Am.Dial? | 15:47 |
| hyc | yes, if you set the ro.cdma props | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, you have to change a setting in the prop | 15:48 |
| hyc | but you're on GSM anyway, you never needed it | 15:48 |
| * Ray|Remote will just leave it as is | 15:48 | |
| hyc | N.Am.Dial was only ever an issue for dumb CDMA phones | 15:48 |
| Ray|Remote | ahh | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | you mean brilliant CDMA phones | 15:48 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: I've got the "no sim card" warning. Is there any way to tell it to go back to CDMA mode? | 15:48 |
| Ray|Remote | *#*#4634#*#* | 15:49 |
| hyc | you had the phone set to CDMA originally? | 15:49 |
| Ray|Remote | phone info | 15:49 |
| Ray|Remote | set it to cdma only | 15:49 |
| hyc | I need to see your radiolog | 15:49 |
| Ray|Remote | or actully,set it to cdma auto (prl) | 15:49 |
| hyc | it should not have gone into GSM mode on you | 15:49 |
| Ray|Remote | otherwise it will be 1x only | 15:49 |
| Tandyman100 | wheeee! little android rocket-dudes! | 15:49 |
| Ray|Remote | holy crap this thing takes foooorrrrrrrreeeeeeeevvvvvvvveeeeeeerrrrrrr to boot | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | isn't testing fun? | 15:50 |
| Ray|Remote | I think i need to wipe windows,it sits at loading htc sense for over a minute and it used to be like 5 seconds. android I dont have issues with,windows is what is taking forever | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | titanium | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use sense | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really use winmo | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i use titanium lol | 15:52 |
| hyc | unfortunately I would have to install winxp somewhere to install hardspl | 15:53 |
| hyc | before I can do anything else... | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | you can't hspl thru sd? | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | i guess you can reverse it with sd... | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps you can't install it with sd. | 15:53 |
| Ray|Remote | I dont know,I used win xp | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea the first thing i did was hspl when i got my tp2 home | 15:54 |
| Ray|Remote | I have a 98mb iso of xp called tinyxp beast edition that is like just the bare essentials if you want to try it in virtualbox to install hardspl | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha i actually was booting android in the store when they handed it to me. | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't do hspl thru a VM | 15:55 |
| hyc | doesn't work | 15:55 |
| hyc | I already tried it | 15:55 |
| Ray|Remote | ahh | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'd be worried about producing a brick | 15:55 |
| hyc | the USB device changes its vendor/product ID while it's toggling between modes | 15:55 |
| hyc | from activesync to spl/flash mode | 15:56 |
| Ray|Remote | it should just either work or not see the phone,it shouldn't brick | 15:56 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 15:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oooooo | 15:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | grrr... too many people stoping by my desk | 15:56 |
| hyc | virtualbox lets you pass thru specific vendor/product IDs | 15:56 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 15:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Cotulla just cracked WP7 bootloader, ANDROID ON WP7?! | 15:56 |
| hyc | but it won't let you just pass thru a USB port | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | that's so weird that you can relock with sd | 15:56 |
| Ray|Remote | right | 15:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I punched in your magic *#*# code and it didn't do anything. | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | but can't unlock with sd. | 15:56 |
| Ray|Remote | it should bring up phone info | 15:56 |
| hyc | Neo: logs man | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU, i might buy me an arrive in that case. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | although, no SD slot... bleh. | 15:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:57 |
| Ray|Remote | make sure you type it in as reverse after. its *#*# 4636 #*#* | 15:57 |
| hyc | forget it | 15:57 |
| hyc | if it went straight into GSM after booting as CDMA, it will do it again | 15:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | But, all WP7 devices are similar, and are made so that WP7 will run no matter what, no drivers needed. | 15:57 |
| hyc | WHICH IS WHY I NEED TO SEE THE LOG | 15:57 |
| Ray|Remote | lol | 15:58 |
| hyc | and figure out why it went into GSM in the first place | 15:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | That might mean that if they make it run on one device it'll run on all | 15:58 |
| Ray|Remote | nice | 15:58 |
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| hyc | WP7 devices all suck. No SD slot? get real. | 15:58 |
| NeoMatrixJR | rebooting...I'll have it start saving logs immediately | 15:58 |
| * Ray|Remote is hating his stupid laptops again | 15:59 | |
| NeoMatrixJR | is there a max line count on pastebin? | 15:59 |
| Ray|Remote | I dont think so | 15:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok | 15:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'd drop the file on my webserver but my new motherboard is still in the mail :( | 15:59 |
| hyc | Neo: hopefully the test isn't tainted already. | 15:59 |
| hyc | if it decided to save GSM as your new preferred phone mode... | 16:00 |
| hyc | you should have been saving the logs from the start. the whole point is to retrieve the logs so I can see what it does from bootup to operational. | 16:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | It'll show in the logs. if it did I'll re...oh crap I can't revert to the previous ril, I didn't back it up.. :( | 16:00 |
| Ray|Remote | ril is on the rootfs,right? | 16:00 |
| hyc | the stock one is in /lib/froyo on rootfs yes | 16:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | usually I do, I just forgot to start my "record" window I keep open (one for watching one for recording w/ ">") | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | god i hate java. | 16:03 |
| Ray|Remote | you too? | 16:03 |
| NeoMatrixJR | looks like it went to CDMAphone this time and stayed there | 16:04 |
| hyc | great. so we lost whatever happened the first time | 16:04 |
| hyc | ok, put it thru its paces in CDMA | 16:04 |
| hyc | make a call, answer a call | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, i have way too many problems with it at work. either i don't use it at home or it just fucking works, because i don't have to do this crap on my personal PC. | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm constantly troubleshooting it on this work PC. our support dept is worthless too (i used to work in it :P) | 16:05 |
| Ray|Remote | it probably just works,what is the problem you are having? | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | well the cisco site depends on java to upload large things | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | and it doesn't work at all. | 16:06 |
| Ray|Remote | ahh | 16:06 |
| Ray|Remote | is java installed? | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | so i go to the java website, and it can't verify itself | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | just gives me some error dialog. | 16:06 |
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| arrrghhh | LOL yes java is installed. | 16:06 |
| Ray|Remote | try uninstalling it and reinstalling | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | i had a few older versions, just went thru and removed all of them and did a fresh install. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea.. | 16:06 |
| Ray|Remote | hmm | 16:07 |
| * Ray|Remote has no idea | 16:07 | |
| arrrghhh | i don't expect you to | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | in case you couldn't tell, this isn't my first rodeo. | 16:07 |
| * Ray|Remote needs synergy,3 laptops and a tv plugged into one of them,so 4 monitors,and still no room to do anything | 16:08 | |
| Ray|Remote | 1 @ 1280x800,2 @ 1360x768,1 @ 800x600 | 16:08 |
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| arrrghhh | and you need three handles in here too? | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 16:09 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 16:09 |
| Ray|Remote | lol | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | what's with the kids these days. | 16:09 |
| Ray|Remote | this one is in PA on my desktop showing on the 800x600 screen | 16:10 |
| stinebd | PA blows | 16:10 |
| Ray|Laptop | this one is my fast dell on one of the 1360x768 screens | 16:10 |
| F22 | hyc: since i have your blessing, i'll integrate in your stuff in the near future. | 16:10 |
| Ray|cr-48 | and this one is on the cr-48 which is the 1280x800 and the second 1360x768 screen | 16:10 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: submit go/no-go test results for hyc's merge requests | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, what i'm confused is why do you need them all signed in here? | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yes sir | 16:11 |
| stinebd | please | 16:11 |
| stinebd | (sorry i'm rude) | 16:11 |
| F22 | lol | 16:11 |
| Ray|cr-48 | sending links as pm's between computers | 16:11 |
| hyc | F22: great | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, :P np man. glad i can help. | 16:12 |
| stinebd | Ray|cr-48: this seems like a perfect irssi+screen use case :P | 16:12 |
| Ray|cr-48 | with 2/3 computers running windows and one 300 miles away? | 16:12 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: if you say "no" to the middle commit of a string of 30 commits I'll slap you. | 16:12 |
| stinebd | sure | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, lol tcp/ip slappin | 16:13 |
| stinebd | ssh is low-latency and windows and cr48 have clients for it | 16:13 |
| hyc | I use finch in screen | 16:13 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the cr-48 is one of the windows computers | 16:13 |
| stinebd | you put windows on a cr48? | 16:13 |
| hyc | got my yahoo and jabber stuff alongside | 16:13 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 16:13 |
| stinebd | if i weren't concerned about my public image, i'd ban you from here right now | 16:13 |
| Ray|Remote | dont worry,I still use chrome os a lot from usb | 16:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: logs coming @ u. 2 logs since I have a dock, I pulled the phone from the cradle to make a couple of calls so I could hear for static. Outbound calls seem to have static, inbound ones didn't (from what I got over a couple of calls). After my last call in log #2 it seems to have disconnected the radio? | 16:14 |
| Ray|Remote | I do the testing I signed up for | 16:14 |
| stinebd | does it work from the sd card? | 16:14 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 16:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | http://pastebin.com/2XaF9Y0Z | 16:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | http://pastebin.com/Rf5pWTS2 | 16:14 |
| stinebd | nice | 16:14 |
| Ray|Remote | I just like to be able to use it to do work too | 16:14 |
| stinebd | yeah i'm not a big fan of chrom[e|ium]os | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:14 |
| hyc | Neo: the data connection will usually drop if you do a voice call | 16:14 |
| Ray|Remote | and the atom can't handle flash on linux,windows runs it a LOT smoother. | 16:14 |
| hyc | unless your network supports dual mode | 16:15 |
| stinebd | enabling gpu assistance in linux's flash mm config helps immensely | 16:15 |
| NeoMatrixJR | no, I mean I got the little "x" over my signal bars | 16:15 |
| hyc | then it might have crashed | 16:15 |
| hyc | will see when I get to the end of the logfile | 16:15 |
| Ray|Remote | it has an intel gma3150,does it really have any power? | 16:15 |
| stinebd | well it has more than the cpu anyway | 16:16 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,good point | 16:16 |
| stinebd | atoms are crap | 16:16 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah | 16:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah. near end of log2 shows "Radio is off and clean up all connection" | 16:16 |
| stinebd | ok should stop interfering with real discussion, sorry | 16:16 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: should I do your rootfs updates now or do you need anymore tests with the out-of-date rootfs changes? | 16:18 |
| hyc | I don't think we need the old rootfs | 16:18 |
| Ray|Remote | ok,pushing the new ril to test,I went through the steps in the post,but what do I do with ril2-6dd0ca3.zip? | 16:20 |
| hyc | you extract it to your sdcard, wherever you've been bindmounting the new ril | 16:20 |
| Ray|Remote | k | 16:21 |
| Ray|cr-48 | waiting for it to boot to windows,then I'll be on new ril. | 16:24 |
| * Ray|cr-48 sets up synergy while he waits | 16:24 | |
| * NeoMatrixJR updated rootfs and pulling radio logs | 16:25 | |
| hyc | Neo: yeah, looks like ril crashed at end of your 2nd log | 16:26 |
| F22 | *grumbles* SoD | 16:26 |
| Ray|cr-48 | what logs do you want,I'll start them before booting that way it catches everything | 16:26 |
| hyc | Ray: the usual. | 16:27 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ok | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | there's really only three. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not aware of any others that aren't application specific. | 16:27 |
| Ray|cr-48 | dmesg after testing calls I'm guessing | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | radio log | 16:29 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I know its adb logcat -v time but I can't remember what letter I use for radio? | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | -b radio | 16:30 |
| Ray|cr-48 | -b ok | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | -d will also make logcat stop when it's done | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | i've been lovin that one lately :D | 16:30 |
| hyc | cool: line 1779 - $HTC_SIGNAL_FADE: 2 | 16:32 |
| hyc | so apparently the modem tells you when it loses signal | 16:33 |
| Ray|cr-48 | at the boot animation,it sat at the scrolling text longer than usual and a bunch of stuff about iptables that I havent seen/paid attention to before | 16:34 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | I got the *#*#info#*#* working, how do I switch to CDMA?! | 16:34 |
| Ray|cr-48 | go to phone info,pick cdma auto (prl) | 16:34 |
| hyc | aren't you already in CDMA? | 16:34 |
| toadlife | F22 - I was having problems with the customized rootfs of yours that hyc provided - the one with updated ppp settings. The phone would "soft-reboot" (freeze and go back to the boot animation). I took the stock rootfs, merged hyc's rootnew.zip and the updated rhod210 keymaps from F22 for my particular model. Since then, I've had no problems since. Does your rootfs change anything other than... | 16:35 |
| toadlife | ...keybindings? | 16:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | bloody thing did it again - switched to GSM, and it's WON'T switch back in the phone info menu. it just keeps popping back to WCDMA preferred | 16:36 |
| toadlife | Ugghh. Meant to say "...updated rhod210 keymaps from your rootfs" | 16:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | audio sounds better,it used to buzz now its as clear as in windows | 16:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | still have gsm buzz in speaker phone | 16:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | it doesnt do that in windows | 16:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I have to go grab my incredible to call it to test that,1 min | 16:37 |
| F22 | toadlife: key map/layout selection has been rewritten in my init script. so yes, you'll have problems if you overwrite my init script with his. | 16:37 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc you're about to get an effing LONG log. | 16:37 |
| stinebd | longcat? | 16:38 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 16:38 |
| toadlife | F22: no, I took the desired keymap from your rootfs and overwrote them in my rootfs. The keymaps work fine. | 16:38 |
| toadlife | Just wondering if you did anything else in your rootfs besides keymaps. The freezing could have just been a cooincedence. | 16:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | or not...apparently pastebin DOES have a size limit! | 16:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | wow...log file is almost 10 MB | 16:40 |
| F22 | toadlife: right, the 210 keymap file's name hasn't changed. on the other hand the 210's key layout file has however, you also won't be able to select any of the available keyboard options from my rootfs. | 16:40 |
| toadlife | I just took the button layout - so my end button could be home. :) | 16:41 |
| Ray|cr-48 | if you dont have anywhere to host them,you can put them on my ftp server. t-mobile.sytes.net username:guest no password | 16:43 |
| toadlife | All I did was copy the "*b4home*" layout file over the approprate file in my rootfs | 16:43 |
| Ray|cr-48 | that was directed at NeoMatrixJR btw. | 16:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: logs posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12904489&postcount=308 | 16:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Ray|cr-48: thanks, but I remembered I could zip them and drop it on the forum. | 16:45 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,that works too. | 16:45 |
| hyc | ok | 16:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hopefully I'll have my own web-host back online after this weekend | 16:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | and a minecraft server :D yay for extra RAM for my VM host! | 16:45 |
| F22 | toadlife: lol. that'll work fine. if all you want to do is run a specific configuration selection you can get away with just overwriting the map/layout files. of course it will be personalized just for you. | 16:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | if minecraft will be happy on a VM | 16:45 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,I am going to have mine set up in a few minutes for logs,t-mobile.sytes.net as just a normal website will be a directory listing of the ftp folder so you guys can use it whenever you want,it only has like 2gb free,but it will work for logs. | 16:46 |
| Ray|cr-48 | just delete the files whenever you're done. | 16:46 |
| hyc | Neo: hm, no "running on a worldphone" messae | 16:46 |
| hyc | message | 16:46 |
| hyc | that's a bad sign... | 16:46 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: yeah...haven't seen that yet. | 16:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | now that I look back through them | 16:47 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I somehow got logs that are 0 bytes for both of them,so I'm rebooting and going to test again. | 16:47 |
| toadlife | F22: I wanted to stay as close to the original rootfs as possible considering the instability I encountered with the custom one hyc made. So you didn't make any changes to the rootfs other than keymaps? I'm trying to figure out of the freezing while using your rootfs was just a bad coincidence. | 16:48 |
| hyc | Neo - in your paste it showed up fine, line 17 http://pastebin.com/2XaF9Y0Z | 16:50 |
| hyc | is the phone still alive or did it crash/reboot after your last run? | 16:50 |
| Ray|cr-48 | me or neo? | 16:51 |
| hyc | Neo | 16:51 |
| hyc | Neo, adb shell - ls -l /dev/smd* | 16:51 |
| hyc | assuming the phone was still alive... | 16:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I rebooted the phone | 16:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sorry, I needed to pull the serial number for a question to HTC | 16:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'll see if I can get it to do it again. | 16:52 |
| hyc | wait | 16:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok | 16:53 |
| hyc | will have a new ril in a sec | 16:53 |
| F22 | toadlife: lol. it's nothing i've done. | 16:53 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'm in WinMo right now. I will wait | 16:53 |
| hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril2-0c16d65,zip | 16:54 |
| hyc | bah | 16:55 |
| hyc | change the comma to a period | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:55 |
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| arrrghhh | euro zip file? | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:55 |
| hyc | :P | 16:55 |
| toadlife | F22: okay. Thanks. | 16:55 |
| hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril2-0c16d65.zip | 16:55 |
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| F22 | toadlife: the only instability you might experience with my rootfs is if for some odd reason the init script failed to load a keymap or layout file. but those sorts of problems are consistent and fairly straightforward to identify. i haven't received any such complaints in over 2 months however. | 16:57 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | looks like it locked in as CDMA | 16:58 |
| Ray|cr-48 | for some reason it wasn't logging from boot,it was just sitting at waiting for device,so I unplugged it and plugged it back in and it pulled these,I'm going to reboot and try again. | 16:58 |
| Ray|cr-48 | they're in raysproxy.hopto.org/logs | 16:58 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: ok, anything other than call in/out you want tested | 17:00 |
| Ray|cr-48 | anything useful or did they not show early enough in the boot to tell? | 17:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | out call still had static, in call didn't | 17:01 |
| hyc | Ray, looks ok | 17:01 |
| Ray|cr-48 | both calls were clear for me,speaker has gsm buzz on both | 17:01 |
| Ray|cr-48 | normal earpiece sounds as clear as windows though | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK all the audio stuff is kernel-related. | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | bad routing logic | 17:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: yeah, but there's not audio problem on the current ril.... | 17:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | at least not that I remember | 17:02 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ahh,I'm running 1253,there was no gsm buzz on autobuild | 17:02 |
| Ray|cr-48 | 1267 I think | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | lies | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, there's audio routing issues present on stock RIL. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | audio routing is kernel only. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | maybe the static is new in this RIL, but i'd be surprised. | 17:03 |
| hyc | yeah, the audio commands are unchanged from stock ril | 17:05 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: you need anything other than radio logcat for inbound/outbound call? I need to power down and head home. UPS says I have a motherboard on my doorstep | 17:06 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Oh, and arrrghhh, I'm running the 4.4.11 WisTilt2 kernel on another setup. It is SLOW. Not sure if it's the kernel or not yet, I haven't had a chance to swap it back to auto-build since I've been doing this today. | 17:07 |
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| hyc | Neo I think this is fine, thanks | 17:08 |
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| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, i don't see how the kernel can be slower. | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | i thought the same thing, Entropy512 called me crazy. | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, what's up | 17:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, I'll post logs for that last RIL in a minute | 17:08 |
| fishingmedic | hows it going | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | livin the dream | 17:09 |
| fishingmedic | must have gotten booted a while ago | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | uploading gigabytes of logs | 17:09 |
| fishingmedic | lol living the dream | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't even want to know what this is all uncompressed | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | probably 100gb of text... | 17:09 |
| fishingmedic | more like a nightmare than a dream | 17:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: logs for that latest ril: http://pastebin.com/gGXxvB88 | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, that is the joke :P | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | at least i don't have to sift thru the logs | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | i just have to get them uploaded lol | 17:10 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | this time,incoming call had no audio both ways until I hit speaker,then it worked in normal and speaker phone,worked on second call. | 17:13 |
| Ray|cr-48 | this is a bug on some native phones too,the cliq xt I know for sure is one of them. | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | we've been battling that bug on & off | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's related to shitty audio routing as well. | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | jb said he's cleaning up all that mess. | 17:14 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,the cliq xt does it on any 2.1 roms | 17:14 |
| Ray|cr-48 | new logs are much longer,same place. | 17:15 |
| Ray|cr-48 | shows running on a world phone in the radio log | 17:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | :) | 17:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | no one even looked at them yet. | 17:17 |
| hyc | still looking at the previous one | 17:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 17:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ok then | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | damn kids | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | get off my lawn | 17:18 |
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| Tandyman100 | I just found xdandroid-tether.apk in my downloads folder on my laptop.. I seem to remember arrrghhh wanting me to do something with it.. | 17:41 |
| Tandyman100 | I just can't remember what it is/does and why I wanted/needed it or why I was needed to test it :P | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | shove it in your ubm | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | bum | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | what does it sound like it does | 17:42 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | does it sound like it does do | 17:42 |
| Tandyman100 | Tethers, but I'm wondering why *I* would have a tethering app since i have no data service. | 17:42 |
| Tandyman100 | ...or did I get this to browse my phone.. | 17:42 |
| Ray|Remote | what company do you have? | 17:42 |
| Tandyman100 | None. | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | o yea you have no service. | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | that's pretty much useless to you | 17:43 |
| Tandyman100 | lol, ok. | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, he's a kid like you but without any service. | 17:43 |
| Ray|Remote | you have no cell service at all,or just no data? | 17:43 |
| Tandyman100 | no service at all, because I'm a poor bastard. | 17:43 |
| * Ray|Remote too | 17:43 | |
| Tandyman100 | :D | 17:43 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm trying to find a way to browse my phone from windows | 17:43 |
| Ray|Remote | on my mom's family plan with tmobile,kids are free till 2012,it was a promotion they were doing over last summer | 17:44 |
| Tandyman100 | woah, nice. | 17:44 |
| Tandyman100 | "KIDS FREE 'TILL THE END OF THE WORLD!!!111" | 17:44 |
| Ray|Remote | and my virgin mobile account is my own,$25 a month for unlimited data,text,and 300 minutes. | 17:44 |
| Ray|Remote | lol | 17:44 |
| Tandyman100 | I wish I could get my Diamond on Virgin mobile :( | 17:44 |
| Tandyman100 | wait... | 17:44 |
| Tandyman100 | I wonder if I could just get some cheapass Virgin phone on their $25/month plan and tether my phone to it? | 17:45 |
| * Tandyman100 mind boggle | 17:45 | |
| Ray|Remote | the intercept is the only one that can tether that I know of | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | if said cheap ass phone tethers. | 17:45 |
| Ray|Remote | that and the optimus | 17:45 |
| Ray|Remote | actually,I would go with the optimus | 17:45 |
| Tandyman100 | however, the helpful guys at the sprint store said there's a place in town that can *maybe* get Sprint phones on Virgin Mobile. | 17:45 |
| Tandyman100 | well | 17:45 |
| Ray|Remote | the intercept is a piece of crap | 17:45 |
| Tandyman100 | I don't have money for that | 17:45 |
| * Ray|Remote has an intercept | 17:45 | |
| Tandyman100 | so I'll just have to try with my Diam500 | 17:45 |
| * Tandyman100 has a Diam500 and a Raph800 | 17:46 | |
| arrrghhh | sounds illegal | 17:46 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 17:46 |
| Ray|Remote | they would need to meid change | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, what they're talking about is illegal. | 17:46 |
| Tandyman100 | oh really? | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | surprised they said you could do that lol | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:46 |
| Tandyman100 | It's illegal to get a sprint phone on Virgin? | 17:46 |
| Tandyman100 | well faaaack. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | MEID swaps are usually done to get around blacklisted phones. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | sprint will only register ESN's from their network. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | virgin is probably the same. | 17:46 |
| Ray|Remote | arrrghhh: if they are sprint employees,I think they can add the meid to VM's system,that wouldnt be illegal | 17:46 |
| * Tandyman100 was hoping it'd be possible since Virgin uses Sprint's network. | 17:46 | |
| Ray|Remote | but if they meid change like I did,yes thats illegal | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, perhaps against company policy | 17:47 |
| Tandyman100 | everywhere I look it seems people are just saying that it 'depends who you talk to' | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | but not illegal | 17:47 |
| Tandyman100 | interesting | 17:47 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah,pretty much the same I've heard. | 17:47 |
| Tandyman100 | well | 17:47 |
| Tandyman100 | I guess I'll just talk to those guys | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | just go to cricket | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | they'll activate any phone | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | even if they can't activate it | 17:48 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, but I can't afford cricket :P | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | they're just glad to get customers. | 17:48 |
| Ray|Remote | ask them if they add your meid to virgin mobile or if they change your meid | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | afford? | 17:48 |
| Tandyman100 | $60/month for an Android phone? | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | it's cheap as virgin | 17:48 |
| Tandyman100 | ..what | 17:48 |
| Ray|Remote | no its not | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i guess not the same deal with unlimited. | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | $30 instead of $25 | 17:48 |
| Tandyman100 | ....$30 for unlimited text, web, and some minutes? | 17:49 |
| * Tandyman100 looks | 17:49 | |
| arrrghhh | no | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | unlimited text unlimited minutes | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | my gf used to have cricket back in the day | 17:49 |
| Tandyman100 | ah | 17:49 |
| Ray|Remote | cricket's android plan is $55 a month | 17:49 |
| Tandyman100 | my mom has cricket with her Optimus C | 17:49 |
| Tandyman100 | ^^ | 17:50 |
| Ray|Remote | its unlimmited everything though | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | with that plan | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:50 |
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| Ray|Remote | their cheapest plan is $35 a month,unlimited talk only | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | cricket just blows donkey balls | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 17:50 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 17:50 |
| Ray|Remote | virgin is about the same as sprint | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | "...and their emissions were like those of horses" </randomdirtybiblequote> | 17:50 |
| Ray|Remote | its decent but not great anywhere | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | dunno 'bout virgin | 17:50 |
| Tandyman100 | virgin would be FANTASTIC | 17:50 |
| Ray|Remote | I have virgin and my friend has a sprint hero and we always have the same signal and data speeds | 17:51 |
| Tandyman100 | quick question on the side: what's the name of that program that lets you browse android devices? | 17:51 |
| Ray|Remote | droidexplorer | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i just had an interesting post from a JBaxendale lol | 17:51 |
| Tandyman100 | thanks | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | he said if he disables data, he can use the wifi hotspot not prob. | 17:52 |
| Tandyman100 | heh, angry birds on a Diam500 with FRX05 = no-no | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | f your angry birds | 17:52 |
| Ray|Remote | thats another bug on some native phones | 17:52 |
| Ray|Remote | turn off data and tether works fine | 17:52 |
| Tandyman100 | I was just using angry birds as a benchmark for gaming. | 17:52 |
| Ray|Remote | turn it on and it gets stuck enabling | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, stop it. | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | what,it is | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | lol | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | i want hyc to fix shit. | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | the vibrant had that issue but it was fixed a LONG time ago. | 17:53 |
| Tandyman100 | droidexplorer will work with XDAndroid, right? | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | yeah | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | ive used it,it works over adb | 17:53 |
| Tandyman100 | I use the HTC driver? | 17:53 |
| Ray|Remote | you use whatever normal adb driver you normally use | 17:54 |
| Ray|Remote | arrrghhh: does wifi hotspot not work for you? it works on mine in froyo. | 17:54 |
| Tandyman100 | lol, normally use.. I don't normally use anything :P | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, try to disable it | 17:54 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: where? who? | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, did you follow that? someone said if they disable data wifi hotspot works fine. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec lemme linky the post. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12905480&postcount=1362 | 17:55 |
| hyc | what use is wifi hotspot if your data connection is off? | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, read the post, i wasn't thorough in my explanation :P | 17:56 |
| Ray|Remote | ok,scratch that,something is broken somewhere. it worked for like 3 hours yesterday,something I did with the rootfs and new ril broke it,it instantly says error when I try to turn it on | 17:56 |
| Ray|Remote | turning data on after enabling hotspot worked fine on the vibrant | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, that guy seems very british, lol. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | i love proper brits. | 17:57 |
| hyc | lol | 17:57 |
| Ray|Remote | their fix was (i think) using some kind of script to when you turn on hotspot,it disconnects data,enables hotspot,then reenables data. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | i mean check out his sig | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | magdalen college, oxford university | 17:57 |
| Ray|Remote | data disconnects for about 10 seconds while it enables hotspot | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, that's a shitty fix. | 17:57 |
| Ray|Remote | actually,my incredible does the same thing | 17:57 |
| Ray|Remote | in sense and cm7 | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | a fix is a fix, but damn. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|Remote, well ours is a little worse. Android reboots when you disable it. | 17:58 |
| Ray|Remote | oh | 17:58 |
| Ray|Remote | the vibrant it was just trying to get it to start that was a problem. | 17:58 |
| Ray|Remote | mine disabled fine yesterday though. | 17:58 |
| Ray|Remote | I think my issue right now is not having the right modules installed because wifi wont turn on either | 17:58 |
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| hyc | I've never even used the wifi hotspot on this phone.., | 18:00 |
| hyc | I'm done writing fixes for now | 18:01 |
| hyc | got too many patches queued up waiting to merge | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i'll try to go thru your requests tonight. | 18:02 |
| hyc | ok. pretty sure you've hit most of them | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | but it sounds like stine wants me to pull one by one | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | and make sure they're guten. | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | which i don't have a problem with | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | assuming it's one merge request by merge request | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | not commit by commit :P | 18:05 |
| hyc | lol | 18:07 |
| hyc | I guess the Phone.apk APN patch really needs to be verified first | 18:10 |
| hyc | i.e., we need someone to actually succeed at sending and receiving MMS | 18:10 |
| hyc | otherwise that patch may be irrelevant | 18:11 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I have mms on gsm | 18:11 |
| hyc | yeah | 18:11 |
| hyc | I meant CDMA | 18:11 |
| Ray|cr-48 | oh | 18:11 |
| hyc | everything works on GSM | 18:11 |
| Ray|cr-48 | gsm is easy,just type in the settinsg | 18:11 |
| Ray|cr-48 | settings* | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i've checked it works. | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | well | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | not mms | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | but the phone.apk patch | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | remember, i typed it all in manually? :P | 18:12 |
| hyc | Sprint in particular seems to require funny authentication to send MMS | 18:12 |
| hyc | so mebbe we can get a Verizon user, dunno | 18:12 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | heh,try sending mms over virgin mobile. the intercept which is a virgin mobile phone can't even handle mms with a kernel that isn't built from VM source. | 18:13 |
| Ray|cr-48 | it needs to be a virgin mobile rom and kernel for it to work | 18:13 |
| hyc | but it's possible that it's some special CDMA profile and not the APN at all | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i need to play with MMS moar | 18:14 |
| * Ray|cr-48 never uses mms | 18:14 | |
| Tandyman100 | oh, nuts. | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | System.UnauthorizedAccessException: Access to the path 'adb.exe' is denied. | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | at System.IO.Directory.DeleteHelper(String fullPath, String userPath, Boolean recursive) | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | at System.IO.Directory.Delete(String fullPath, String userPath, Boolean recursive) | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | at DroidExplorer.Bootstrapper.Panels.DownloadPanel.SdkPathCleanup() in s:\projects\csharp\DroidExplorer\trunk\DroidExplorer\DroidExplorer.Bootstrapper\Panels\DownloadPanel.cs:line 251 | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | at DroidExplorer.Bootstrapper.Panels.DownloadPanel.RunSetup() in s:\projects\csharp\DroidExplorer\trunk\DroidExplorer\DroidExplorer.Bootstrapper\Panels\DownloadPanel.cs:line 181 | 18:14 |
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| Tandyman100 | ...crap. I did NOT want to paste all that. Sorry. | 18:14 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:14 |
| Tandyman100 | That would be droidexplorer setup failing. | 18:14 |
| Ray|cr-48 | anyway,that looks like adb isnt in your path | 18:14 |
| * Tandyman100 has no clue what that means | 18:14 | |
| Tandyman100 | is adb something I need to install? | 18:15 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | its part of the android sdk,1 min | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | oh tandy | 18:15 |
| Ray|cr-48 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_j5LM4PVTE | 18:16 |
| Ray|cr-48 | follow that | 18:16 |
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| Tandyman100 | sweet | 18:16 |
| Ray|cr-48 | thats on windows 7 home premium 64bit,it shouldn't be that much different for other versions of windows though | 18:16 |
| Tandyman100 | this is Win7 Ultimate 32 bit :D | 18:17 |
| Tandyman100 | should be the same | 18:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | you need the JDK too,the sdk installer will stop and make you install it if you don't | 18:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,7 ultimate 32bit will work... you pirate | 18:17 |
| Ray|cr-48 | :D | 18:17 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:18 |
| Tandyman100 | I really need to find my 64-bit disk | 18:18 |
| Tandyman100 | because this laptop has 4GB of RAM... | 18:18 |
| * Ray|cr-48 has 6gb | 18:18 | |
| Tandyman100 | heh, my friends are always saying "You PAID for windows?!?!?" | 18:18 |
| Ray|cr-48 | if I add all the system's I'm using right now,I have 9.38gb ram | 18:19 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | dell laptop=6gb,dell desktop=1.25gb,other dell laptop (connecting to the dell desktop with remote desktop,doing no actual work) 128mb,cr-48=2gb. | 18:19 |
| Tandyman100 | heh, 128mb... | 18:20 |
| Tandyman100 | that a Pentium II/III? | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|cr-48, lol you just assume he's a pirate | 18:20 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,400mhz pentium 3m | 18:20 |
| Tandyman100 | I can beat that. I have a 33MHz 486SX laptop with a built-in printer and 7MB of RAM | 18:20 |
| Ray|cr-48 | arrrghhh: he can't afford cell phone service,do you really think he paid for w7 ultimate? | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | touche. | 18:21 |
| Tandyman100 | I could've nicked my parents installation disks. | 18:21 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I want to know why no one seeds tiny xp beast edition anymore,that was an awesome os. | 18:21 |
| Ray|cr-48 | 98mb install cd,only like 300mb used on the disk,28mb ram usage on first boot | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 18:22 |
| Tandyman100 | Tiny XP beast edition? | 18:22 |
| Tandyman100 | EW. | 18:22 |
| Ray|cr-48 | its really stripped down,but it FLIES | 18:22 |
| Tandyman100 | MicroXP was pretty win for low low low end systems. | 18:22 |
| Ray|cr-48 | this thing boots in 13 seconds and its a 400mhz p3 with 128mb ram | 18:22 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | tell me ANY other os that can do that besides dos/win 3.x | 18:23 |
| Tandyman100 | 90mb installation cd, 150mb disk, 80mb RAM, boots in 3 seconds on a 1.6GHz Pentium M laptop. | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | quit talking about things i don't care about | 18:23 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:23 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | i mean | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | quit talking about things that are off-topic. | 18:23 |
| Tandyman100 | oh | 18:23 |
| Ray|cr-48 | do you have something better to talk about? | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | no, just workin right now. | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | trying to think of what else i need to get done today... | 18:23 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, I can complain about how Droidexplorer never works for me, and you can try to help me, only to find out I haven't told you something critical, and it was all for nought. | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | o right i should get that UPS ordered. | 18:24 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ahh | 18:24 |
| Tandyman100 | naught* | 18:24 |
| Ray|cr-48 | because? | 18:24 |
| Tandyman100 | I dunno | 18:24 |
| Tandyman100 | Haven't gotten there yet :P | 18:24 |
| Tandyman100 | still downloading JDK, android SDK, etc. | 18:24 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ahh | 18:24 |
| * Ray|cr-48 downloaded it at like 2.6MB/sec. almost no waiting as you saw in the video | 18:25 | |
| Tandyman100 | I can just predict the future | 18:25 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 18:25 |
| Tandyman100 | I have a max of 1mbps, because my dad is cheap and we have AT&T budget-what-u-doin-u-poor-bastard internet. | 18:25 |
| Tandyman100 | that REALLY sucked when downloading the Windows 8 leak yesterday :P | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | why would you download that lol | 18:26 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:26 |
| Tandyman100 | <- likes windows betas since the 5xxx series Longhorn betas | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | ew. | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, you're a machocist. | 18:27 |
| * Ray|cr-48 loves synergy. 4 screens,3 computers,1 keyboard and mouse | 18:27 | |
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| arrrghhh | sorry masochist | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 18:27 |
| Tandyman100 | how am I a masochist? | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | no wait that's right. | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | do you know what the word means? | 18:27 |
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| Tandyman100 | I'm too much of a pussy to be a masochist :P | 18:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I vaugly know what it means | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | *google masochist | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | damnit how does that stupid bot work | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | **google masochist | 18:28 |
| Tandyman100 | gratification gained from pain, deprivation, degradation, etc., inflicted or imposed on oneself, either as a result of one's own actions or the actions of others, especially the tendency to seek this form of gratification. | 18:28 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh: Masochism | Define Masochism at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/masochism>; Masochism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masochism>; Masochist - Medical Definition and More from Merriam-Webster: <http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/masochist>; masochist - definition of masochist by the Free Online Dictionary ...: (1 more message) | 18:28 |
| Ray|cr-48 | basically it means you get a sexual thrill from pain | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | well | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't have to be sexual (at least i don't think it does....) | 18:28 |
| Tandyman100 | I always defined it "Enjoying self-inflicted pain" | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | basically | 18:29 |
| Ray|cr-48 | any time I've ever seen it used,it has been | 18:29 |
| Tandyman100 | So you're saying i enjoy inflicting pain with rubbish software and hardware upon myself? | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|cr-48, it can be sexual, but doesn't HAVE to be. | 18:29 |
| Tandyman100 | Well, my 486 does make me horny. | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yes. | 18:29 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:29 |
| * Tandyman100 runs | 18:29 | |
| arrrghhh | that's exactly what i'm saying lol | 18:29 |
| Ray|cr-48 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252546246.png | 18:29 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | better or worse than your internet? | 18:30 |
| Ray|cr-48 | thats the computer that was serving the logs/ftp earlier | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol slow | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | grade D- | 18:30 |
| Ray|cr-48 | its behaving today,it normally gets an f- | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder what i'd get @ work | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | ping 18ms | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | holy poop | 18:30 |
| * Tandyman100 imagines a turd with a halo | 18:31 | |
| Ray|cr-48 | ping is really low today,thats why,its getting 105ms,normally is 300ms plus | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252548487.png | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's my work cxn | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | which seems to be capped. | 18:31 |
| Ray|cr-48 | your work is sprint? | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | probably to prevent people like me from stealing all the b/w | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|cr-48, we're many things. our internet internally is sprint. | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | we have metro ethernet | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | qwest | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | sprint | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | at&t | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | verizon for MPLS | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | qwest is going away tho | 18:33 |
| Tandyman100 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1252550223.png | 18:33 |
| Tandyman100 | that's my home internet | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | sad | 18:33 |
| Tandyman100 | yep | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | my home internet is WAY faster. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i get like 30m down. | 18:33 |
| Tandyman100 | if I'm downloading an OS or something, my dad SCREAMS at me for hogging the bandwidth and he 'can't do anything' | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | tell him to pay a little more | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | and you can have more than one computer online at any given time without sheer pain. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'd just throttle your cxn down to nothing tho if i was your pappy. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | FU, internets are for me. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:34 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:34 |
| Tandyman100 | actually | 18:34 |
| Tandyman100 | I usually do the opposite }:A | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea, damn kids. | 18:35 |
| Tandyman100 | only my sisters internet, not me. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | i'd throttle her down in heartbeat | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 18:35 |
| Tandyman100 | She spends all her time watching stupid RayWilliamJohnson or whatever and hogging everything | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | you get 10k, kthxbai | 18:35 |
| Tandyman100 | I make her WAIT. | 18:35 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:35 |
| Ray|cr-48 | he's funny | 18:35 |
| Tandyman100 | O_O | 18:35 |
| * Ray|cr-48 loves the sterotypes song | 18:35 | |
| Tandyman100 | You think that asshole is funny? | 18:35 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:35 |
| Tandyman100 | HERE IS A TYPICAL RWJ SHOW | 18:35 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,his actual show is retarded | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | shit | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | stfu, i must work. | 18:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ok,so work | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | sounds complicated | 18:36 |
| Tandyman100 | HEY FORUM *racial slur* <censored> *video he ripped from someone else without giving credit* BALLS. BUTTSEX. COMMENT QUESTION OF THE DAY. STALKIN UR MOM LOLOLOLOL. | 18:36 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what you guys are talking about | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | i'm officially old | 18:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1224231489.png | 18:36 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:36 |
| Tandyman100 | it's some faggot from youtube | 18:36 |
| Ray|cr-48 | thats my school's connection | 18:36 |
| Tandyman100 | most viewed video on youtube EVERY DAY | 18:37 |
| Tandyman100 | nice | 18:37 |
| Ray|cr-48 | and my home connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1222411219.png | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | dude holy upload | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | home cxn sucks on up | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | (mine does too) | 18:37 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,but not bad considering my plan is 18mbps down,2mbps up | 18:38 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I'm getting a lot more than that down | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | does charter speedboost like comcrast? | 18:38 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah,that 47 was speedboost,its stable at about 29 | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:39 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | i thought comcast didn't know how to throttle | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | and i actually calc'd it, i almost always get exactly what i pay for | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | on speed tests, it's WAY faster than what i pay for. | 18:39 |
| Ray|cr-48 | they do,they got sued for throttling bittorrent | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | stupid powerboost horseshit | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i noes | 18:40 |
| Ray|cr-48 | but they do have that free internet loophole though,so I still like them | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 18:40 |
| Ray|cr-48 | basically,you connect a cable modem and they don't keep you locked in at their signup page,just set a different dns server and you have internet | 18:40 |
| Ray|cr-48 | as long as you have cable,you have like 5mbps down,1mbps up internet | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i have free tv thru them | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i should try the other way | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | meh 12m is slow for me. | 18:41 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I do it at my stepdad's parents house,they already have internet,and I have their wifi key,but they have mac filtering on and I change computers a LOT because I buy broken ones on ebay,fix them,then resell them | 18:42 |
| Ray|cr-48 | so I bring an old motorola surfboard and my linksys router | 18:42 |
| Ray|cr-48 | disconnect the tv in the basement and plug it in | 18:42 |
| Ray|cr-48 | there's my internet | 18:42 |
| Ray|cr-48 | :) | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 18:43 |
| Ray|cr-48 | charter does not have the same loophole,they redirect everything back to their signup page | 18:43 |
| * Ray|cr-48 wishes they did | 18:43 | |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:43 |
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| Tandyman100 | ...damn | 18:47 |
| Tandyman100 | the Android SDK is still complaining the JDK is missing | 18:47 |
| Tandyman100 | ... | 18:47 |
| * Tandyman100 reinstalls | 18:47 | |
| arrrghhh | where do i order this crap | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i must spend all of the bank's money, but i can't find out where. | 18:48 |
| * Ray|cr-48 wonders what crap arrrghhh speaks of | 18:48 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:48 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ? | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | trying to order some UPS' for work | 18:48 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 18:48 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i can't find the damned form | 18:48 |
| Ray|cr-48 | what are you trying to order,I can probably find it | 18:49 |
| * Ray|cr-48 has 4 screens to do it on including a 32" tv | 18:49 | |
| arrrghhh | we have dealers bro | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | they cut us deals | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | because we buy in bulk | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | i was shown how to do this | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | and now i can't find the doc | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 18:49 |
| Ray|cr-48 | technically I can make it five if I move remote desktop onto the tp2 | 18:49 |
| Tandyman100 | nice | 18:49 |
| * Tandyman100 is trying to set up his shuttle with two TVs, three CRTs, and an LCD | 18:50 | |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol,all of mine are lcds | 18:50 |
| Tandyman100 | Just because I have three VGA-outs, a DVI out, and two S-video outs. And because i can. | 18:50 |
| Tandyman100 | GHETTO MULTIMONITOR! | 18:50 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I have 1 vga out per computer | 18:50 |
| Tandyman100 | Top of the line in 1999 | 18:50 |
| Tandyman100 | that's me | 18:50 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the 2 normal laptops are just using their screens,the tv is plugged into the cr-48. | 18:51 |
| Ray|cr-48 | and a usb mouse is plugged into the cr-48 controlling all of them. | 18:51 |
| Ray|cr-48 | just move from screen to screen | 18:51 |
| Tandyman100 | nice | 18:52 |
| Tandyman100 | CR-48? Isn't that the google netbook? | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | shit, it was in a different folder | 18:52 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | not UPS documentation, UPS orders. | 18:52 |
| Tandyman100 | niiice | 18:52 |
| Ray|cr-48 | oh,I was just looking through my dropbox,have you ever played mafia wars on either facebook or myspace? | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | ohgod | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | GTFO | 18:53 |
| Ray|cr-48 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14474427/Mafia%20Wars%20by%20Zynga%20on%20Myspace%20Apps_1300500609122.png | 18:54 |
| Ray|cr-48 | thats what happens when you dont check on it for over a year | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | can't see | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | my forcebindip isn't working either | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | weird. whatever. | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | that was nice when it worked. | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | 10gb of logs almost uploaded, w00t | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | i don't want to think about what these are going to be uncompressed. | 18:55 |
| Ray|cr-48 | wtf? 10gb of logs? | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:55 |
| Ray|cr-48 | for what? | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | probably 100+gb of text lol | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | callmanager | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | that's ONE week | 18:55 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | less actually | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | 4 days | 18:55 |
| Ray|cr-48 | wow | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea i didn't compress at first | 18:55 |
| Ray|cr-48 | why the hell does it throw that much crap in the logs | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | i filled a 40gb hard disk in a few hours | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | let's just say we have a couple of phones | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | between phones, fxs and fxo ports... we have ~7000 endpoints registered. | 18:56 |
| Ray|cr-48 | but 10gb compressed for 4 days? | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | callmanager is chatty too | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | just taking the phone off the hook generates a ton of crap. | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | let alone dialing lol | 18:56 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ahh,thats why | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | cisco has some pretty thorough logs. | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | trying to find errors in said logs where you can't reproduce the problem? sometimes impossible doesn't begin to describe it. | 18:57 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 18:57 |
| Ray|cr-48 | im guessing thats your job? | 18:58 |
| Ray|cr-48 | or someone elses | 18:58 |
| mes | sorry to but in, but has anyone seen a difference in the ability to load an https page, between 3G and wifi, ie will load over wifi but not over ssl | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | someone elses | 18:58 |
| mes | sorry UMTS | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | mes, depends on your provider i guess | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have any problem with https | 18:58 |
| mes | they say it is the phone | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | my provider gives me an open internet cxn. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | who? | 18:58 |
| mes | telus | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | does it work in winmo? | 18:59 |
| mes | never tried, just don't think of running it | 18:59 |
| mes | but you are right, that would stop their trashing the phone | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | well might want to try that | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | rule out the provider | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | if it works in winmo, then we can look at issues in android | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't work in winmo, it's the provider. | 19:00 |
| Ray|cr-48 | telus does block some ports I know,but idk about ssl. | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i'm no canadian | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 19:02 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I'm not either,but the canadian border is pretty close,my phone roams on rogers occasionally when I'm by the lake | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:03 |
| Ray|cr-48 | oh yeah,thats not fun. voice is only like $.25 a minute roaming,but don't try using data on tmobile when roaming in canada. it's $10/MB. $15/MB in other countries | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:05 |
| Ray|cr-48 | defninitely something I will NOT be trying | 19:05 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I dont ever go over to canada anyway,and I put my sim in a dumbphone when I go near the water,so I don't really care. | 19:06 |
| toadlife | arrrghhh: you running callmanager in some sort of debug mode or something? | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | toadlife, lol cucm is always in debug mode :P | 19:08 |
| toadlife | heh | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | but we do have traces set to detailed if that's what you're asking. | 19:09 |
| toadlife | Sounds almost like blackboard. They use tomcat and we have four front-ends. Each front-end generates about 200MB of longs per day. I zip them all up and archive them. | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | 200mb, puh | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | that's nothin :P | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | i seriously filled a 40gb hdd in a couple of hours w/o compressing the logs. | 19:11 |
| toadlife | that's insane | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | our logs cycle less than an hour | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | so without a logging server, we lose logs if we don't pull 'em right away. | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | so i setup a logging server, but i guess it's only temporary. | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | they forced me to put it on a windows box, that was a PITA | 19:11 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | ok,so my desktop switched networks properly | 19:13 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I lost remote desktop,but at least it rejoined something | 19:13 |
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| raymonddull | remote desktop is soooo tiny on the tp2 | 19:28 |
| raymonddull | its awesome. super mini netbook. | 19:28 |
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| Tandyman100 | lol | 19:42 |
| Tandyman100 | <arrrghhh> i seriously filled a 40gb hdd in a couple of hours w/o compressing the logs. | 19:43 |
| Tandyman100 | so 100gb of uncompressed logs per day you'd say? | 19:43 |
| Tandyman100 | that's insane O_O | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | eh maybe not that much, but yea | 19:43 |
| raymonddull | anything else new for me to test? hyc told someone earlier not to bother updating because there would be another new ril,was he talking about the one i was testing or yet another one? | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | it's pretty ridiculous | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | compressed it's 2-3gb a day. | 19:43 |
| Tandyman100 | that's just this channel? | 19:43 |
| raymonddull | not irc logs | 19:43 |
| Tandyman100 | oh | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, did you not follow the convo you were having with him | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:44 |
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| * Tandyman100 took that out of context :P | 19:44 | |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yes, you did. | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | logs @ work | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | callmanager (the system that controls all the VoIP phones | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | ) | 19:44 |
| Tandyman100 | oooh | 19:44 |
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| raymonddull | yeah,i was following the conversation | 19:45 |
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| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, I was told you'd be the person to ask what would be best to get for gaming on android on my Diam500? Not necessarily XDAndroid, though if that's the best gamer... | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | nothing | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | who told you that | 19:55 |
| Tandyman100 | also, there's a bug in the Gingerbread keyboard. It's all unusable scruntched up at the bottom of the screen. | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | they were being sarcastic. | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | you're not using the newest gb image | 19:55 |
| Tandyman100 | oh | 19:55 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah, it is a few weeks old... | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | well | 19:55 |
| Tandyman100 | GB is way faster than froyo, right? | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | newest gb image should have the kbd fixed. | 19:55 |
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| arrrghhh | eh | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | it's way more broken too | 19:56 |
| Tandyman100 | hm | 19:56 |
| Tandyman100 | damnit, Swype, quit breaking. | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | get a phone with a real kbd | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | o wait you did | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | and couldn't handle it | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:56 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 19:56 |
| Tandyman100 | no, it couldn't handle android :P | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | lies | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | you can't handle android | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | hardware buttons broke. I tried multiple builds, checked checksums, etc. | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho who told you to ask me about games | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | hardware buttons on raph/diam are broken | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | from the factory | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | wut | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | 4-buttons yet there's only two physical buttons? | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | wtf htc. | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | dumb | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | capacitive panel | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | lololololol | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | dumb | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | resistive screen | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | ftl | 19:57 |
| Tandyman100 | and it's actually four buttons and a d-pad with four physical buttons. | 19:58 |
| Tandyman100 | and it uses the capacitive part to tell what part you're pressing on. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think that's true. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | might've felt like 4-buttons | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | but... no. | 19:58 |
| Tandyman100 | I've seen under the panel, there's only four buttons. | 19:58 |
| Tandyman100 | that WHOLE panel just rocks around on 4 buttons. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | enter key | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | and two for each side | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | er | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | one for each side | 19:59 |
| Tandyman100 | I wasn't counting the enter key | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, i never pulled my raph apart. | 19:59 |
| Tandyman100 | I saw pics, brb | 19:59 |
| Tandyman100 | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro/63788-my-touch-pro-mod-l-e-ds.html | 19:59 |
| Tandyman100 | wait what | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | worthless | 20:00 |
| Tandyman100 | ...what happened to the taken apart pics? | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | you're just makin stuff up | 20:00 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:00 |
| * Tandyman100 googles for a teardown | 20:00 | |
| arrrghhh | meh | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | i'm goin home | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 20:01 |
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| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:02 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | I told you to ask him about nand,not gaming. | 20:04 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 20:04 |
| Ray|cr-48 | he doesnt do any gaming | 20:04 |
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| Tandyman100 | ooh | 20:07 |
| Tandyman100 | well, I know there's no nand for Diam500 | 20:07 |
| Ray|cr-48 | oo | 20:08 |
| Ray|cr-48 | there is for RHOD400 | 20:08 |
| Ray|cr-48 | my phone^^ | 20:08 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 20:09 |
| Tandyman100 | the Touch Pro/Diamond 2 are well-supported | 20:09 |
| * toadlife looks forward nand on his phone | 20:09 | |
| Tandyman100 | the Touch Pro/Diamond are NOT | 20:09 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah | 20:09 |
| Tandyman100 | also, >my face when the swype beta is for every resolution EXCEPT vga | 20:10 |
| Ray|cr-48 | lol | 20:10 |
| Ray|cr-48 | mine is wvga | 20:10 |
| Tandyman100 | uargh | 20:10 |
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| Tandyman100 | HURR | 20:31 |
| Tandyman100 | that's why I'm having so many problems | 20:31 |
| Tandyman100 | I have an OLD kernel | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | no comment | 20:31 |
| Tandyman100 | ...you'd think that after having this problem 5 times I'd think to CHECK that before wasting time. | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | you didn't grab my bundle | 20:31 |
| Tandyman100 | FRX05? | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | 06 | 20:32 |
| Tandyman100 | ...06 is out now? | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | you old outdated dinosaur | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | do you even read the forums before asking questions? | 20:32 |
| Tandyman100 | that's me. I have a TRS-80 Model 100. | 20:32 |
| Tandyman100 | Sometimes. | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | do you even know what tandy is | 20:32 |
| Tandyman100 | I have three of them. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | you are an old dinosaur | 20:33 |
| Tandyman100 | It used to be a leather company, then it and Radio Shack merged and they made computers. | 20:33 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm the youngest old dinosaur ever :P | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | ok, well at least you know tandy. | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | kinda | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | i think they started making computers before merging with radio shack, IIRC | 20:33 |
| Tandyman100 | I thought their first computer was the TRS-80 Model 1. And the TRS stands for 'Tandy/Radio-Shack' | 20:34 |
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| Tandyman100 | they made later models that were just 'Tandy 1000 HD' or 'Tandy 1100FD' | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | eh i don't actually know | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just spouting things from my bad memory | 20:34 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:35 |
| Tandyman100 | There's a REASON I'm the tandyman :P | 20:35 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm a massive fanboy/collecter | 20:35 |
| Tandyman100 | The fanbase for the Model 100 has actually resulted in a serial SD card reader. | 20:35 |
| Tandyman100 | and an expansion thing that backs up the whole thing to 32k images (the max memory in the model 100 is 32kilobytes) and can load option ROMs. | 20:36 |
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| Tandyman100 | it's pretty sweet. | 20:36 |
| Tandyman100 | * programmer8922 (~Evan@67.219.164.162) Quit (Client Quit) <- I think I scared him | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | anyone talking about 32k max memory scare me. | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | s/anyone/anybody/ | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | this should be fun | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, time to test your changes one by one | 20:42 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if that's doable. | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess i'll find out | 20:45 |
| mes | arrrghhh, https seems to work in winmo | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | mes, i guess i can try it in Android | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | just not right now | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure it works in Android | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | does Telus require a proxy? | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | or something special to get out to the internet> | 20:47 |
| mes | no | 20:47 |
| mes | I'll just try it again | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem very scientific | 20:48 |
| mes | ??? | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | you already know it doesn't work for you | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | have you changed anything? | 20:48 |
| mes | yes, but you never know when the aliens are going to mess with you | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | conspiracy theorist. | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | great. | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | did you say it works on wifi? | 20:49 |
| mes | the telusmobility login page just comes up blank, winmo complained the cert isn't for the right host but ... | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 20:50 |
| mes | yep works fine on wifi | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | well | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | it's almost gotta be your provider then. | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'll check it for you, but i've got some work right now | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | need to pull some merge requests and test/approve them. | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | first i have to figure out how to pull the merge requests lol | 20:50 |
| mes | yes I've been looking at all Chu's request | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | i need to merge them. | 20:51 |
| mes | I may just have t check out his trees, I have weak signal and the data connection falls down all the time | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | sounds fun | 20:52 |
| mes | so new ril, and pppd would be great | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | you can use them manually | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | he provides binaries. | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just pulling them to test the pieces and confirm they're good. | 20:53 |
| mes | I don't mind building the source, but figuring out exactly what is the problem | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | i don't follow | 20:54 |
| mes | turning on wifi and hitting reload brings up the cert warning and loads the page | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say it's your provider | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't have time right now man | 20:55 |
| mes | he has changed several things from what I can see of the checkins | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | please, i'm trying to get this done. | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | his changes won't have any effect on your issue | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | at least they shouldn't. | 20:55 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, you thar? | 21:16 |
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| Tandyman100 | Ugh, phones are getting too thin. | 21:44 |
| Tandyman100 | Holding an iphone 4 is like trying holding a knife that's all blade with no handle. | 21:44 |
| Tandyman100 | too thin. | 21:44 |
| Tandyman100 | My moms LG Optimus C is too thin, even. | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think the iphone4 is too think | 21:45 |
| Tandyman100 | My ever-so-slightly-thicker DIAM500 is SO much more comfortable to hold. | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's awkward to hold tho, it's lines are so... not smooth. | 21:45 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | jagged edges. | 21:45 |
| Tandyman100 | I guess that's sort of what I mean... | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | i actually liked how the iphone before it felt | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | the design seems high quality | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not very practical. | 21:46 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 21:46 |
| Tandyman100 | it's solid hardware, that's for sure | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | i was surprised, it's pretty industrial looking up-close | 21:46 |
| Tandyman100 | One of my friends is dead-set on buying an iPhone 4 just to put Android on and use it as a videophone (he's deaf) | 21:47 |
| Tandyman100 | If he gets anything else, not only does he want Android and a REALLY good foward-facing camera, but he wants a physical keyboard. | 21:47 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, I'm suprised at you buying an iPhone 4 due to the lack of a physical keyboard. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | who said i was buying one | 21:48 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh, I guess you never said you *had* one :P | 21:48 |
| * Tandyman100 is VERY mildly dyslexic | 21:48 | |
| arrrghhh | no | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:48 |
| * Tandyman100 is also mildly bipolar | 21:48 | |
| arrrghhh | we do a lot of phone testing at work | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | oooh | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | where do you work? | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | i've played with nexus s | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | iphone4 | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | some wp7 phone | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | :o | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | couple of 'em | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | a bank | 21:49 |
| * Tandyman100 also has horrible memory | 21:49 | |
| toadlife | I'm still waiting for a android phone with a keyboard that holds a candle to the tp2 | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | phone testing at a bank, that's a new one :P | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | the TP2 had the BEST keyboard ever. | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | we get them for testing the website | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, we have a HUGE development dept | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | Even if I do get an HD2, I think I'll buy a TP2 when I get the moola | 21:49 |
| Tandyman100 | ah | 21:49 |
| * toadlife strokes his beloves TP2 keyboard | 21:49 | |
| Tandyman100 | ^ | 21:50 |
| toadlife | Beloved | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | we develop everything internally. even our new accts app, this thing that views acct data on a web site, etc. | 21:50 |
| Tandyman100 | Then I'll have a Touch Pro, Diamond, Touch Pro 2, and an HD2 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i do love the tp2 as well | 21:50 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah | 21:50 |
| Tandyman100 | I'll buy an HD2 the second I have the money, then I'll save up for a TP2. | 21:50 |
| Tandyman100 | ...and donate to XDAndroid, of course ;) | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully by that time there'll be a new phone | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | htc arrive would be the tp3 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | if it had a damned sd card slot | 21:50 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 21:51 |
| Tandyman100 | a modern phone... without one? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | unbelievable. | 21:51 |
| Tandyman100 | What the hell? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | wp7 doesn't support sd cards | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | there's one phone with it, and it doesn't work | 21:51 |
| Tandyman100 | ...the fuck, microsoft? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | it's a sd-card holder basically. | 21:51 |
| Tandyman100 | fail. | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | they're trying to kill the iphone | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | 3 years too late | 21:51 |
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| Tandyman100 | WP7 would be fantastic if it supported SD cards, multitasking, more aggressive patching/upgrades, and Angry Birds (because a lot of people won't buy one because it lacks this. Sad, I know) | 21:52 |
| cryptos | are you available arrrghhh? | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, what's your question | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, who gives a fawk about angry birds | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | but mt is comin | 21:52 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh Everyone my age but me :P | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's been released | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:52 |
| cryptos | phone and 3g both work i can download and install from the marketplace | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | i know a lot of people that play that game. i don't get it. | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | ok... | 21:53 |
| Tandyman100 | I still don't get the appeal of slingshotting birds at pigs. | 21:53 |
| Tandyman100 | I can see his problem. | 21:53 |
| Tandyman100 | Something must be wrong when everything works. | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol let him finish assclown | 21:53 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 21:53 |
| cryptos | however when i load the browser it loads the page but when it completes loading the phone crashes | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, gingerbread? | 21:53 |
| toadlife | Angry birds was mildly amusing to me on my wifes hd2. The novely wore off quickly though | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. git. | 21:54 |
| cryptos | i installed another browser and it does the same thing | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, gingerbread!??! | 21:54 |
| cryptos | if i stop the browser before it completes it doesnt crash | 21:55 |
| cryptos | gingerbread? | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | what freakin build are you running man | 21:55 |
| Tandyman100 | wow, FRX06 is noticeably faster. | 21:55 |
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| arrrghhh | wth | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yea it's userdebug | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | instead of engineering debug | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | or whateveritscalled | 21:56 |
| Tandyman100 | cool | 21:56 |
| Tandyman100 | and lol @ cryptos. | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | dude started in #htc-linux | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | he types one key at a time i think | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | lo | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | l | 21:57 |
| Tandyman100 | Tonight I'll charge up my Touch Pro with winmo and my Diamond with FRX06 and just for curiosity's sake see which one runs out of the most battery by morning in standby. | 21:57 |
| Tandyman100 | Ugh, like my grandpa. He sees me touch-typing and he calls everyone over to watch my 'amazing' 89WPM | 21:57 |
| Tandyman100 | He can tap morse code faster than he can type :P | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | if he used to do that | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | those guys get faaaast at it | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | and interpreting it? | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | insane. | 21:58 |
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| arrrghhh | cryptos, what build are you running | 21:58 |
| cryptos | 2.2.1 | 21:58 |
| cryptos | frx04? | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | why so old | 21:59 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh and you say I'm a dinosaur :P | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | i refuse to support outdated builds. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, lol | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | not that old | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | not like he's on eclair or donut | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea let's all run donut | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | tha'd be sweet | 22:00 |
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| Tandyman100 | wohoo! | 22:00 |
| Tandyman100 | I ran the eclair Sense build briefly. | 22:00 |
| Tandyman100 | *gag* *barf* *faint* | 22:00 |
| Tandyman100 | ^it was that bad | 22:01 |
| cryptos | it was released in late january the latest build on the touch pro 2 pore site | 22:01 |
| cryptos | port* | 22:01 |
| Tandyman100 | ...why did I read that as 'touch pro 2 porn site' | 22:01 |
| Tandyman100 | What is wrong with my mind? | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, i have no clue why you're going there. | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | i almost wish reef would just pull down his site. | 22:01 |
| cryptos | because i have a touch pro 2.. | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, but that page is outdated | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm asking why you're using that page as a reference. | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | is there a link somewhere that needs to get removed? | 22:02 |
| cryptos | yeah, thats what im taking away from this conversation | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | tell me where man! | 22:02 |
| Tandyman100 | Why aren't you just using the official threads on XDAndroid in your device forum? | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | like pulling teeth | 22:03 |
| Tandyman100 | I am confuse. | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, what i'm asking is, WHY are you going to that ancient site. | 22:03 |
| cryptos | 22:03 | |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | well that's your own fault then. | 22:03 |
| Tandyman100 | oh | 22:03 |
| cryptos | lol | 22:03 |
| cryptos | january isnt that long ago.. | 22:03 |
| Tandyman100 | success, I think. | 22:03 |
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| Tandyman100 | nope, premature celebration. | 22:04 |
| cryptos | will the new builds work on the tp2? | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, considering there's changes daily sometimes | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol no we stopped supporting the TP2 | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | no one uses it. | 22:04 |
| Tandyman100 | But I'm using my Diamond | 22:04 |
| cryptos | touche! | 22:05 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm joking | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | of course the new builds work on the tp2. | 22:05 |
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| cryptos | ok, where can i find that then? | 22:07 |
| Tandyman100 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | that works | 22:08 |
| Tandyman100 | I feel so useful. | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | i would start fresh cryptos with frx06 | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | format the card | 22:08 |
| cryptos | thats what i was going to ask | 22:10 |
| cryptos | will the startup tool work with it, or should i just run haret | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | i don't support the startup tool | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | but it will work | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | just don't ask for help with it, k? | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | oh and don't use it to update. doesn't do that anymore :P | 22:12 |
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| cryptos | i suppose not.. | 22:12 |
| cryptos | alright.. ill give that a try then | 22:12 |
| cryptos | someone should nuke that site if its that worthless | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | ddos it | 22:13 |
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| arrrghhh | i'm jk reef's cool | 22:14 |
| cryptos | i owe you a beer.. but ill get out of your hair for now.. | 22:14 |
| cryptos | thanks again! | 22:15 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | donate :D | 22:15 |
| cryptos | will you use it on beer? | 22:16 |
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| Tandyman100 | lolz | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | well if you donate to me | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | i promise | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | if you donate to the project | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | it won't go to me | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | but that's probably for the better | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | because i don't do much for the project :P | 22:17 |
| Tandyman100 | You're the main tech support guy :P | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i test stuff | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | bundle things | 22:18 |
| cryptos | ill put that in the comments **must be used to purchase arrrghhh beer** | 22:18 |
| Nautis | Hi I cant get the cab working :p | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | and try to break stuff, but usually end up really breaking it. | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, lol | 22:18 |
| * arrrghhh stabs Nautis in the eye with a .cab file | 22:18 | |
| arrrghhh | how did that install? | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say internal memory. | 22:19 |
| cryptos | lol | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:19 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 22:19 |
| Tandyman100 | the cab? | 22:19 |
| * Tandyman100 shudders | 22:19 | |
| Tandyman100 | I break stuff because I have no clue what I'm doing :D | 22:19 |
| cryptos | anyways, thanks and ill try and make it back on here with something other then a question | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, i meant dev work | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried to write code | 22:19 |
| * arrrghhh fails | 22:19 | |
| arrrghhh | cryptos, sounds good ;) | 22:20 |
| Nautis | but its easy and I cant figure out how to put a bunch of files in the same folder and then run a haret | 22:20 |
| cryptos | laters | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 22:20 |
| Tandyman100 | later cryptos | 22:20 |
| Nautis | ok sorry.. wanted to try my hand at trolling a bit | 22:21 |
| Tandyman100 | The only code I can write is 1983 Microsoft BASIC, and the only command-line i can use is MS-DOS 6.00 | 22:21 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm useless :P | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | have you seen powershell? | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | i was actually surprised | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | m$ fixed a lot of shit, and actually provided a good shell.. | 22:22 |
| Tandyman100 | That's a windows thing, isn't it? | 22:23 |
| Tandyman100 | like a matured .bat file? | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | eh kinda | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | matured .bat file would be vb script | 22:24 |
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| Tandyman100 | hmm, yeah. | 22:24 |
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| Tandyman100 | I'm mostly a hardware person | 22:37 |
| Tandyman100 | wheee, time to slap the old kernel on there real quick for calibration | 22:38 |
| Tandyman100 | can't wait | 22:38 |
| Tandyman100 | ._. | 22:38 |
| Ray|cr-48 | <arrrghhh> not like he's on eclair or donut | 22:39 |
| Ray|cr-48 | <arrrghhh> yea let's all run donut | 22:39 |
| Ray|cr-48 | <arrrghhh> tha'd be sweet | 22:39 |
| Ray|cr-48 | dont hit me,but I can haz donut? | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | no | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | well you can | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | but i won't support you | 22:40 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I think it should be at least tried,look at how well myn's warm donut works on the vogue, that runnning on our hardware should be awesome. | 22:43 |
| Ray|cr-48 | and there isn't that much that doesnt work on donut. | 22:43 |
| Ray|cr-48 | oh,and in case you're wondering where I've been for the last few hours,I was merging a 15" cracked dell lcd and a dell latitude d600 a la imac. | 22:45 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I'll show you some pics when its done in a few days | 22:45 |
| Ray|cr-48 | basically I ripped out the monitor guts and crammed a laptop in it with the screen backwards. | 22:45 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the laptop has a semi dead motherboard,it wont charge a battery,and it has cracked hinges so its useless as a laptop,I figured I might as well make it useful for something. | 22:46 |
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| arrrghhh | lol ok | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | D600s are awesome | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | I have one | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | I did that with a PIII and an old dell LCD | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | put it in am imac g3 case | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | not to toot my own horn but it was the most amazing thing evar | 22:48 |
| Ray|cr-48 | mine is the laptop going in the lcd case. | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol stfu | 22:49 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I might load mac os on it again,it runs pretty decently on these laptops. | 22:49 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the only major issue is not having core image/core animation support so stuff is choppy. not any worse than on my powermac though | 22:50 |
| Ray|cr-48 | and its passively cooled now,I replaced the cpu/gpu heatsinks and fan with an xbox 360 heatsink,it will keep it pretty cool. | 22:51 |
| Ray|cr-48 | so it should be almost silent. | 22:51 |
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| * Ray|cr-48 wants to find someone willing to trade his tp2 for their hd2 | 22:52 | |
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| Ray|cr-48 | oh,do we have usb host support at all (android or otherwise) | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | mass storage mode? | 22:56 |
| Ray|cr-48 | no,like plugging in a mouse to use in remote desktop | 22:57 |
| Ray|cr-48 | or plugging in a flash drive as another mount point,plugging in a keyboard,... | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 22:57 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the hd2 has that | 22:57 |
| Ray|cr-48 | I was wondering if we could too | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | no clue | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | you're probably the first to ask | 22:58 |
| Ray|cr-48 | the hd2 I had a usb hub and keyboard and mouse plugged in,running ubuntu was pretty cool on there. | 22:58 |
| Ray|cr-48 | it was my computer on the go,I had a case with a kickstand | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:59 |
| Ray|cr-48 | it exists for the tp2,but it doesnt look like its being updated anymore,do you know if this was continued somewhere else? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640785 | 23:01 |
| Tandyman100 | god help us. | 23:01 |
| Tandyman100 | My mom and sister just discovered Fat Face booth thingamajigger | 23:02 |
| Tandyman100 | in b4 my inbox is flooded with fatface pics | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | Ray|cr-48, still a sticky | 23:02 |
| Ray|cr-48 | yeah but the last update was in sept. | 23:03 |
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| arrrghhh | yea | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | it was kinda a silly concept, imo | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | not many people used it. i think they were messing with debian | 23:04 |
| Ray|cr-48 | it worked great on the hd2,I used it | 23:04 |
| Ray|cr-48 | doesnt mention usb host support though so I would assume no,but I'll still make a cable tomorrow and try it. | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | all you can do | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | i think it does work | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | not positive tho | 23:05 |
| mes | arrrghhh, there are lots of changes in hyc's tree that will effect data stability | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | there are... | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | i would say in a positive way | 23:06 |
| Ray|cr-48 | isnt that what I've been testing? | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | yes ray | 23:07 |
| mes | yes, it looks that way to me | 23:07 |
| mes | is he around? | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | why | 23:07 |
| Ray|cr-48 | his last message was 294 minutes ago,but you never know | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | mes, why | 23:08 |
| mes | there is a lot of work to commit these changes, I just want to see the end result in my shitty signal area | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | mes, grab the binaries and see | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | we're working to commit, merge requests have already been made. | 23:09 |
| mes | don't use binaries | 23:09 |
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| raymonddull | I'll give you a zip to use in a minute. | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | then compile his changes? | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | mes, wtf? | 23:09 |
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| mes | and a tree that is under so much work, it is better know the status from the author | 23:09 |
| raymonddull | pulling everything from my phone without the data.img should work on mes's phone,right? | 23:10 |
| mes | many trees | 23:10 |
| raymonddull | its the latest ril we tested | 23:10 |
| raymonddull | with the old kernel that doesnt have the gsm sleep bug | 23:10 |
| mes | frameworks_base, ril, initpppd | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | mes, unless you have something useful to say, stfu. | 23:10 |
| mes | I'll wait for hyc | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 23:11 |
| mes | how is it you are going to commit all this? | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | why are you bugging him? that doesn't do anybody any good. | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | mes, i'm going to pull his merge requests in | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | test locally | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | tell stine | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | stine will pull to the trees | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | and... it will get committed assuming it's all gravy. | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | everything i've tested thus far has been great | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | bumpy along the way, but that's expected. | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | the final product has been great. | 23:12 |
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| raymonddull | mes,what phone do you have? like mine is a RHOD400 | 23:14 |
| mes | raph110 | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | should be device agnostic, all devices in the project use the same RIL | 23:16 |
| mes | raymonddull, don't worry about a zip | 23:16 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I'm setting up a zip,with everything set up including key layout with all the latest test stuff | 23:16 |
| raymonddull | I'm doing it whether you want it or not is up to you,I want it as a backup anyway | 23:17 |
| mes | good idea | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:17 |
| raymonddull | uploading to dropbox,it'll be ready in about 8 minutes if you want it. | 23:19 |
| raymonddull | arrrghhh: what does msmvkeyb_toggle=off do? | 23:21 |
| raymonddull | the xdandroid starter app added it to my startup.txt and I have no idea what it is | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | removes the virtual kbd | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | on-screen kbd that shows on boot | 23:22 |
| raymonddull | oh | 23:22 |
| * raymonddull hates that he can download at 2.9MB/sec,but only upload at ~180kbps | 23:23 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea, full duplex pipes are $$$ | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | for mpls we were paying 18k/mo | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | 155mbps up, 155mbps down. | 23:24 |
| raymonddull | I want to move to kansas where google is rolling out their fiberoptic internet,its supposed to be 1gbps both ways | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | now we're going fiber to ethernet, getting 2gbps for cheaper. not sure how much, but i guess a lot less lol | 23:25 |
| mes | not worth going to kansas | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | kansas sucks | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | and google is going to roll it out to other cities if it works | 23:27 |
| mes | not funny | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | what? | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm serious | 23:28 |
| raymonddull | lol | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | you guys heard of greenlight internet? | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | little company in wilson north carolina | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | my cousin has them | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i actually helped built out that cable head-end | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | cool | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i had no idea when i was working on it that it would be so big :P | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i see them all over the internet | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | lol | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | just saw 'em again on engadget. | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | I havent had her run any speedtests,but she likes it | 23:33 |
| raymonddull | http://imgur.com/EpWCv.png | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | it's fibre to the home | 23:34 |
| * raymonddull is addicted to those^^ | 23:34 | |
| arrrghhh | she probably has the 10/10 setup | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | and it's 10/10 | 23:34 |
| raymonddull | probably | 23:34 |
| raymonddull | Greenlight Minimum System Recommendations | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | Greenlight Internet connections run best on a PC running Windows XP or higher | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | Pentium 233-megahertz (Mhz) or faster (300 Mhz is recommended) | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | At least 64 megabytes (MB) of RAM (128 MB is recommended) | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | At least 1.5 gigabytes (GB) or available space on the hard disk | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | CD-ROM or DVD ROM drive | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | thats a funny joke | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | you can get all the way up to 1gbps | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | if you're a business | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | their site only shows up to 100mbps for residential | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | residential goes up to 100mbps | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | dick | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | lol | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | but it's 100/100 | 23:36 |
| raymonddull | $149 a month | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | not cheap | 23:37 |
| raymonddull | that would be AWESOME though | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | but holy shit | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | 100/100 | 23:37 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | fiber to the home man | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | the city of wilson blew all the fiber | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | and told time warner to use it | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | but charge less and provide faster speeds | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | time warner laughed at them | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | and the city of wilson said, meh we'll just provide internet tv and phone ourself. | 23:38 |
| raymonddull | nice | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | i worked for this company that basically built turnkey cable headends | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | cool job, but it was insane hours and all travel | 23:39 |
| raymonddull | mes: here's the latest test stuff,all packaged up for you,key layout and everything setup,just put it in a folder named froyo on your sd card and launch haret | 23:40 |
| raymonddull | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25712321/froyo.zip | 23:40 |
| mes | sorry no folder here, only directories | 23:43 |
| mes | or files | 23:43 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | ok,extract it and put all the files in a directory named froyo. | 23:47 |
| Ray|cr-48 | happy now? | 23:47 |
| mes | thanks for the effort, the difference in terminology is an important change in mindset | 23:48 |
| mes | it leads to systems that run all the time, something that would be useful a phone | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:50 |
| Ray|cr-48 | ok then. lol | 23:50 |
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| Ray|cr-48 | I reboot my phone a few times a day because of trying stuff or switching batteries,I dont really care about systems needing to run all the time. | 23:54 |
| mes | a prof of mine asked, (a big unix proponent) asked me why I would run a Vesion 7 unix, and a few weeks later I could answer because a guy uses the address dmr@plan9 or something would answer my e-mail | 23:58 |
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