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| rpierce99 | hahahahahahahahahahahahaha | 00:16 |
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| rpierce99 | http://www.tiad8.com/ | 00:16 |
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| z3bu | wow @ that rpierce99 | 00:24 |
| Entropy512 | oh | 00:28 |
| Entropy512 | my | 00:28 |
| Entropy512 | god | 00:28 |
| Entropy512 | heeeeelp that site has scarred me for life | 00:28 |
| Entropy512 | I feel dumber already | 00:28 |
| Entropy512 | http://www.tiad8.com/showthread.php?p=25#post25 - this coming from Lord Kang himself? | 00:30 |
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| Madplaya1 | Hahaha tiad8 | 00:32 |
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| Entropy512 | out of curiosity, anyone know the history/origins of BLAZN? | 00:37 |
| Entropy512 | looks like a potentially nifty theme if it can be applied without all the other crud people usually bundle with BLAZN builds | 00:37 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know where it originally came from (the theme) but reef made the original blazn build afaik | 00:38 |
| Entropy512 | reef = matt gonzalez on the old sites.google.com site? | 00:42 |
| rpierce99 | reefermatness, so yeah i'm guessing matt is a good assumption | 00:42 |
| rpierce99 | definitely the sites.google.com guy | 00:42 |
| rpierce99 | he was gone before i arrived | 00:42 |
| Entropy512 | ok going to bed, nn all | 00:44 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Ivan Tillett, who says: Keep up great work | 01:05 |
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| hyc | rpierce99: hey | 10:48 |
| hyc | does in-call dialing work for you? | 10:48 |
| hyc | in cdma mode | 10:48 |
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| rpierce99 | like using menus? | 10:49 |
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| hyc | yeah | 10:51 |
| hyc | just dtmf sending | 10:51 |
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| rpierce99 | doesn't look like it, google voice just hung up on me | 10:55 |
| rpierce99 | i hear the audible tones | 10:55 |
| rpierce99 | but apparently not going over the radio | 10:55 |
| hyc | 'k, send logcat? i think cdma is using a new request for that | 10:56 |
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| rpierce99 | D/RILJ ( 1987): [0048]> RIL_REQUEST_CDMA_BURST_DTMF : # | 10:57 |
| rpierce99 | D/RIL ( 1884): onRequest: CDMA_BURST_DTMF (85) | 10:57 |
| rpierce99 | D/RIL ( 1884): Request 85 is unsupported | 10:57 |
| hyc | yep | 11:00 |
| hyc | good enough | 11:00 |
| hyc | not sure how they expected this to be used for a string of digits at once, the ui only grabs one at a time | 11:01 |
| rpierce99 | i have one of those for each key that i pressed | 11:01 |
| hyc | yeah | 11:02 |
| hyc | just saying they made no sense defining this command this way. whatever | 11:02 |
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| hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-cf1f279.zip should have DTMF working | 11:52 |
| rpierce99 | didn't miss any returns this time? :P | 11:53 |
| hyc | sure hope not! | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | yep, called gvoice, logged in, dialed my home phone, all went fine | 12:00 |
| hyc | cool | 12:00 |
| rpierce99 | i'm sad, i got a sweet deal on a pogoplug ($17 shipped) and ordered it thinking I could hack it, but apparently you can't hack the pro, at least not yet, now i just have a $17 paperweight | 12:04 |
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| knchris | just curious, what's the focus/what's being worked on for the next release? | 12:57 |
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| hyc1 | stinebd: I see there's an xdandroid fork of system/core already, but it doesn't look like it's actually referenced in the manifest | 13:05 |
| hyc1 | or did I miss something and it's actually there? | 13:05 |
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| justind_raph800 | hello | 14:07 |
| justind_raph800 | is anybody available to help with a problem i'm having getting xdandroid to run on a raph800? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | what's your question | 14:08 |
| justind_raph800 | I am pretty sure I followed all the directions.. | 14:08 |
| justind_raph800 | getting a dma busy error | 14:08 |
| justind_raph800 | when it loads rpcrouter I believe | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | so you never see the boot animation? | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | I downloaded this | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | FRX06_Full_Bundle_25.3.2011.zip | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | no flying androids? | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | no | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | this is just the linux text | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | a couple minutes in | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | and you let it run for AT LEAST 10 minutes? | 14:09 |
| justind_raph800 | no, it loops this busy message | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | first boot can take up to 10 minutes, sometimes longer depending. | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | it tries for 120 seconds | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | so you didn't let it sit for 10 minutes? | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | that's not long enough. | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | I think I did | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | just got the same error | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | I will now though | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | also, did you grab the ts-calibration file? | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | just to make sure | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | or create your own manually? | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | umm no I didnt | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | I just grabbed the startup.txt from the RAPH800 folder | 14:10 |
| justind_raph800 | added the directory cmd | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | well then | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | you need to read all the steps | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | as you can either create your own ts-calib file manually | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | or use the one included | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | but you have to do one or the other. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i'm off to lunch, i'll bbl | 14:12 |
| justind_raph800 | thanks | 14:12 |
| justind_raph800 | I apologise arrghhh I just found your recent post on ppcgeeks -- I was looking at the out dated steps on xda-developers | 14:31 |
| justind_raph800 | excuse my ignorance :) | 14:31 |
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| arrrghhh | justind_raph800, no problem. lots of outdated stuff out there... | 14:44 |
| justind_raph800 | didnt realize there were so many irc logs stored.. lots of info in them and google likes to put them on the top of searches | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 14:49 |
| justind_raph800 | wow thats pretty, it just finished installing | 14:50 |
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| emwe | stinebd: are you around= | 15:14 |
| emwe | ? | 15:14 |
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| oddz | damnnn cm7 runs awesome | 15:31 |
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| Xethron | Haai | 15:42 |
| Xethron | I can't install Firefox 4 on my Touch Pro 2 on XDAndroid | 15:42 |
| Xethron | Android market says its not supported | 15:42 |
| Xethron | Any ideas? | 15:42 |
| rpierce99 | android market can pick and choose what apps are compatible with what devices | 15:46 |
| rpierce99 | an app called market enabler can fake some of them | 15:46 |
| rpierce99 | but other than that not much you can do | 15:46 |
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| hyc | stinebd: ping | 15:48 |
| hyc | or anyone who has an frx06 build tree | 15:49 |
| hyc | Entropy512: can you compile an frx06 /init.android ? | 15:50 |
| hyc | mine seems to just die and force a reboot | 15:51 |
| oddz | hyc i noticed with your ril signal strength asu is always 0 in CDMA | 15:54 |
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| hyc | CDMA doesn't use asu | 15:55 |
| hyc | it uses dBm | 15:55 |
| odz | and it always says Rev 0 even though i get 1.8M/800k on speed tests | 15:56 |
| odz | oh | 15:56 |
| hyc | yeah, i dunno what's up with that yet. don't really care at the moment either | 15:57 |
| odz | ya its purely cosmetic | 15:57 |
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| Xethron | rpierce99, but my Touch Pro does not show as a touch pro on Google does it? Because Android was never made for it... | 16:15 |
| rpierce99 | it's not based on some arbitrary product name, it's based on things like os version, processor, ram, hardware features (multitouch, camera), etc | 16:16 |
| rpierce99 | market enabler supposedly (i haven't run it, personally) fakes some of these, like carrier, etc | 16:17 |
| rpierce99 | so looking at it enabler is to fake your country and carrier | 16:18 |
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| hyc | http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-April/000111.html | 17:32 |
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| raf_ | I see that http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page is out of date. I created http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Version_FRX06 just now, if anyone would care to update Main_Page to link to it. | 17:55 |
| Entropy512 | hyc: lemme see, not sure if my build tree can do rootfs | 18:01 |
| Entropy512 | unfortunately am packing for yet another trip out of town | 18:01 |
| hyc | never mind, I got a working one finaly | 18:01 |
| Entropy512 | ok | 18:01 |
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| hyc | bugger. switching to pppd controlled by init.rc, I got my first orange SoD in weeks. | 18:44 |
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| Entropy512 | hyc: d'oh. I got two orange hangs today, weird, I haven't had one in a while. I'm going to try and see if I can do the wifi trick again to get it to hang more once I get back from my trip. | 22:44 |
| hyc | ok | 22:44 |
| Entropy512 | it happens so rarely I never have logcat running when it does. :( | 22:44 |
| hyc | yeah | 22:44 |
| hyc | I had it happen once today | 22:44 |
| hyc | now I have a logcat in the background, no hangs :P | 22:44 |
| Entropy512 | Yup - happened to me before I found the nice wifi-induced ppp-start hangs | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like murphy's law to me... | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | hang hang start logcat no hangs | 22:45 |
| hyc | yep | 22:45 |
| hyc | I'll just build that into the next rev | 22:45 |
| hyc | system("logcat >/dev/null") | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | I need to figure out some sort of auto-logcat trick that start logcat with file rotation on boot | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | and names them using bootup time (so that logcats from the next boot don't overwrite the interesting one) | 22:46 |
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| hyc | my G1 roms (cyanogen-derived) come with a syslogd | 22:46 |
| Entropy512 | daaamn nice | 22:46 |
| hyc | could setup a syslog.conf that sends data ovork | 22:46 |
| hyc | hmm, except that would still fail if the network went down | 22:47 |
| Entropy512 | yeah, and usually, network going down is what causes things to go boom. :) | 22:47 |
| hyc | yep. just can't win | 22:47 |
| Entropy512 | since the hangs seem to be userland | 22:47 |
| Entropy512 | it seems like logcat exits cleanly and doesn't create a corrupt file if it catches a hang event | 22:47 |
| hyc | well, that's a blessing | 22:48 |
| Entropy512 | yeah | 22:48 |
| hyc | tho, we have no way to know for sure | 22:48 |
| hyc | if we're missing the last 512 bytes of it :P | 22:48 |
| hyc | so I finally realized my laptop's build tree was using the xdandroid-eclair manifest | 22:49 |
| hyc | now I'm on current xdandroid source | 22:49 |
| hyc | no wonder my build of phone.apk crashed so badly | 22:49 |
| Entropy512 | d'oh! | 22:50 |
| hyc | yeah, many hours of wasted compiles | 22:50 |
| Entropy512 | although as far as the 512 bytes - sometimes the log ends at a very clean place | 22:50 |
| Entropy512 | like my "ppp died too early" logcat | 22:50 |
| hyc | mmm, true | 22:50 |
| Entropy512 | it just seemed like a nice clean ending that made me thing it caught the very last bit | 22:50 |
| hyc | right, if it was in the middle of a line, or missing a trailing \n that would have been obvious | 22:51 |
| hyc | so maybe we're fine | 22:51 |
| hyc | but it makes me wonder how userland can get so screwed up that it totally hangs the ui | 22:51 |
| hyc | as well as the adb interface | 22:51 |
| hyc | doesn't make sense. still has to be kernel. | 22:52 |
| hyc | or..... something is eating 100% CPU? | 22:52 |
| hyc | but even a tight infinite loop would eventually let some other processes run | 22:52 |
| Entropy512 | yeah... true | 22:53 |
| Entropy512 | maybe it is some negative interaction with /dev/smd0 | 22:53 |
| Entropy512 | I know attempting to even look at it funny causes the phone to hang | 22:54 |
| hyc | true | 22:54 |
| Entropy512 | (when the RIL has it open) | 22:54 |
| hyc | which reminds me, we ought to have a "modem-chat" program that simply sends OEM HOOK messages to rild | 22:54 |
| hyc | so that we can still test out AT commands on the fly | 22:54 |
| hyc | without upsetting smd0 | 22:54 |
| Entropy512 | that would be cool | 22:55 |
| Entropy512 | there are numerous commands I want to poke at w/o modifying the RIL itself | 22:55 |
| Entropy512 | such as the signal strength related stuff | 22:55 |
| hyc | yeah | 22:55 |
| hyc | I may poke at something like that later | 22:55 |
| hyc | shouldn't be too hard | 22:55 |
| Entropy512 | I periodically look at the GPS code but it still makes my brain hurt | 22:56 |
| Entropy512 | but I think I might have an idea how to clean up our data validity brokenness | 22:56 |
| hyc | yeah? | 22:56 |
| Entropy512 | I think there's a flag field hidden somewhere, just need to find it | 22:56 |
| Entropy512 | there were some printfs that printed all received data, I need to brush up on my sprintf() technique so I can convert those into log macros | 22:57 |
| hyc | heh | 22:57 |
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| Entropy512 | what the hell... | 22:58 |
| Entropy512 | I KNOW that my system image is built from source that includes my GPS patch | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | but | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | if I don't bind-mount the library | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | it regresses to the old crap | 22:59 |
| hyc | compare the two libraries | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | ooooooooh I think I figured out why | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | well, sort of | 22:59 |
| hyc | mebbe rootfs bindmounts it too | 22:59 |
| Entropy512 | rootfs has a libhardware_legacy.so too | 23:00 |
| hyc | yep. exactly. | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | same crap as the RIL | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | but with the RIL you had to bindmount it TO the rootfs location | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | in the GPS case | 23:00 |
| hyc | yeah, because it wasn't on /system | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | bindmounting it to the real location in /system works OK | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | hmm | 23:01 |
| Entropy512 | maybe it's bind-mounted from rootfs | 23:01 |
| hyc | yes, I remember that | 23:01 |
| hyc | oh, my phone just went orange | 23:01 |
| Entropy512 | and then bind-mounting to the target location using froyo.user.conf overrides that bindmount | 23:01 |
| hyc | hung | 23:01 |
| Entropy512 | d'oh | 23:02 |
| hyc | there's been a few times when it went orange and it was still alive | 23:02 |
| hyc | pressing menu brought up the screen | 23:02 |
| Entropy512 | I've seen it go orange for as long as 10-30 seconds if it's syncing mail | 23:02 |
| hyc | I don't have any auto-sync's enabled | 23:02 |
| hyc | and my SIM has no data plan by default | 23:03 |
| hyc | when I need to test it for real I pay $1 for 24 hours | 23:03 |
| hyc | well here's hoping the log file is useful | 23:04 |
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| hyc | gah. the log ended 3 hours ago | 23:05 |
| hyc | or, I forgot to start it last time. | 23:05 |
| Entropy512 | doh | 23:05 |
| Entropy512 | grumble, I wish I could figure out why /sdcard never remounts after accessing it via USB | 23:06 |
| Entropy512 | logcat indicates great success | 23:06 |
| Entropy512 | few people can even get that far since you can't even access it via USB if you use loopback images | 23:06 |
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| Entropy512 | I wonder if our source builds are deodexed or odexed | 23:09 |
| Entropy512 | I'm thinking of trying my hand at theming | 23:09 |
| Entropy512 | shiny is popular, and that's one thing tiad8 did offer that was good. We just need to figure out shiny without crashy. :) | 23:09 |
| hyc | adding bells and whistles already? | 23:09 |
| hyc | lol | 23:09 |
| Entropy512 | more like I always prefer "darker" themes | 23:10 |
| Entropy512 | stock froyo is too bright | 23:10 |
| Entropy512 | just attempting to kang a framework-res.apk from elsewhere into our rom results in lots of splodey splodey | 23:11 |
| hyc | yeah | 23:11 |
| hyc | things really go nuts when it crashes like this | 23:12 |
| hyc | watching logcat on the next boot | 23:12 |
| hyc | it thinks just about every apps' data files have the wrong uid | 23:13 |
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| Entropy512 | I've only had that happen as a result of my theming misadventure | 23:17 |
| Entropy512 | my usual problem is sqlite database corruption | 23:18 |
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| Entropy512 | usually talk or contacts (making me suspect incoming calls are causing some of these issues, since it's specifically the call log that is hosed based on logcats) | 23:18 |
| Entropy512 | I need to talk to stinebd at some point about figuring out a clean way to slipstream fix_permissions into our builds | 23:19 |
| Entropy512 | since I think a lot of cases where users wipe data.img can be avoided with that | 23:19 |
| Entropy512 | hmm, after using meld to do a folder compare | 23:21 |
| Entropy512 | I think that if I can figure out how to deodex this | 23:21 |
| Entropy512 | I can use this theme I kanged from elsewhere | 23:21 |
| Entropy512 | maybe need to resign the APK too | 23:21 |
| hyc | yeah, I have fix_permissions on /sdcard now | 23:21 |
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| hyc | I haven't reinited /data since Feb 2 | 23:31 |
| Entropy512 | slightly less than that for me | 23:39 |
| Entropy512 | but not for a while | 23:39 |
| Entropy512 | hmm looks like source builds are by definition deodexed | 23:43 |
| Entropy512 | maybe my problem only stemmed from not deleting the dalvik cache last time | 23:43 |
| Entropy512 | or I might be on the road to another explosion | 23:43 |
| hyc | that's always possible | 23:43 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 23:43 |
| hyc | heh | 23:43 |
| hyc | my new phone.apk keeps blowing up | 23:43 |
| hyc | so either my source tree or my compile toolchain doesn't match what was used for frx06 | 23:44 |
| hyc | I would have thought they just used the prebuilt tools bundled in the repo | 23:44 |
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