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| ryannathans | every time I 'make | 09:12 |
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| ryannathans | I never get any filesystems | 09:12 |
| ryannathans | can anyone help? | 09:12 |
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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, do you know of any way to force the data cxn off on boot? | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | dang foreigners complaining about their expensive data cxns lol | 11:26 |
| rpierce99 | hmmm, just data connection and not phone i'm assuming | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | every method i could think of involved killing the radio entirely lol | 11:27 |
| rpierce99 | there's a data enabled checkbox, which I'm assuming stores it's value in a settings db somewhere | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea. obviously if they disable it, i assume the setting persists | 11:28 |
| rpierce99 | you'd have to edit the db entry offline though if you're talking about first boot | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | on the very fist boot is data used at all when you have no sync settings etc? | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | first* | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it is if he's complaining about it. | 11:28 |
| rpierce99 | i wonder if that's one of the settings that you can set a default of from build.prop | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | nothing's jumping out at me, but perhaps something can be added | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. maybe i'll just tell him to throw it into airplane mode and go disable data. | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if it blocks out that setting in airplane mode lol | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln, :( | 11:32 |
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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, Oo they probably get nailed with a connection fee... so the very act of data getting connected probably incurs a charge. | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | man i am so glad i have the plan that i do lol | 11:34 |
| rpierce99 | it's funny how behind we are on home broadband but how lucky we are on mobile broadband | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it is odd... | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | the way we do mobile is odd too. | 11:34 |
| rpierce99 | looks like what most people/apps do to disable data is to mess with their apn | 11:39 |
| rpierce99 | because the data on/off is a protected setting not available to apks | 11:39 |
| hyc | droidwall | 11:39 |
| rpierce99 | would that stop the connect attempt to the carrier? | 11:40 |
| rpierce99 | and can you put it in, configured, before first boot? | 11:40 |
| hyc | Ah, don't think so. | 11:40 |
| hyc | I forget that CDMA uses a circuit-switched data call | 11:41 |
| hyc | in GSM it's just another packet, there is no explicit connection | 11:41 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know if these are cdma or gsm users having this problem | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | this is gsm | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA users aren't persecuted like this :P | 11:41 |
| hyc | heh | 11:41 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: that might not be true for china telecom | 11:41 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know what their data rates are like | 11:42 |
| arrrghhh | yea i guess that's true. | 11:42 |
| arrrghhh | they might have similar crap.. | 11:42 |
| hyc | I think you just want to find the setting in the phone db and disable data by default | 11:42 |
| arrrghhh | you can do that before booting? | 11:43 |
| hyc | hmmm | 11:43 |
| hyc | oh, there's no data.img yet? | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | it's a sqlite db file, you'd need to have a sqlite editor | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | oh right | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yes, correct. | 11:44 |
| hyc | I guess there would have to be a prop for it | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | i was thinking empty apns-conf.xml? | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | yeah there's a setting somewhere | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that would break it? | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | it would for fake gsm mode | 11:44 |
| hyc | yes, that should break it for gsm | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea, a build.prop setting would be nice too. | 11:44 |
| hyc | ought to be able to trace where that DB got created | 11:46 |
| hyc | dig thru the telephony framework code | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 11:49 |
| arrrghhh | seems like a minority of the population. | 11:49 |
| arrrghhh | get back to fixin that RIL up | 11:50 |
| * arrrghhh whips hyc | 11:50 | |
| * hyc runs screaming | 11:50 | |
| arrrghhh | so i'm trying to catch up on where you are at on that | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | what was that last fix that stripped the +?? I didn't see it in GIT | 11:51 |
| hyc | should be in there now, I pushed it | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | oh ok | 11:52 |
| hyc | well, I pushed it right after the upload, so a while ago | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | also - seems to be the consensus to fix the roaming issue with editing that xml file? | 11:52 |
| hyc | eri.xml, yes | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | ah there it is. yea, i saw the new RIL but nothing in GIT :P | 11:52 |
| hyc | because real CDMA phones have a valid one, probably prepopulated from their carrier | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, so no way to detect that? how was it getting detected before? | 11:53 |
| hyc | or mebbe we can steal one from cyanogenmod | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | good place to look for sure ^^ | 11:53 |
| rpierce99 | you can't prepopulate it | 11:53 |
| rpierce99 | unless you just make it say android | 11:54 |
| hyc | hm, it will be carrier dependent huh | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | or something equally generic | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | because it maps a number, usually 128, to a carrier | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why it worked so well before tho - am i missing something? | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | all the carriers use the same number | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | on GSM is pulls it from the tower | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | which apparently cdma mode decided was too unreliable | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | so it was able to pull it from CDMA towers? | 11:54 |
| hyc | yes | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think we'd lose any features, that's hilarious. | 11:55 |
| rpierce99 | it's kind of a nice customization piece | 11:55 |
| rpierce99 | you can make it say whatever you want | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | but in the default builds, when we get to that point, we should probably be throwing one in that says Android or something | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | but not so easy for making "builds for all" | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | or XDAndroid | 11:56 |
| hyc | good idea | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | exactly, that kinda sucks. but, c'est la vie. | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | I think it's going to have to be put into rootfs though, and copied into /data after it's created | 11:57 |
| rpierce99 | unless we modify the primary one, which I believe is binary | 11:57 |
| hyc | yeah, compiled and put into framework-res.apk | 11:57 |
| rpierce99 | but apparently you can sed it | 11:57 |
| hyc | probably better to put a plaintext one in /data | 11:57 |
| hyc | makes it easier to edit | 11:58 |
| rpierce99 | i really wish i knew why pduparser was blowing up | 11:58 |
| hyc | what's that? | 11:58 |
| rpierce99 | mms download | 11:59 |
| hyc | ah | 11:59 |
| rpierce99 | that's right, I was going to download a pdu parser for my computer to see if it handled the sprint pdu | 11:59 |
| hyc | don't have a good java debugger handy? | 11:59 |
| rpierce99 | i have no idea how to step into android source | 11:59 |
| hyc | it's probably difficult to do on the phone itself | 12:00 |
| hyc | maybe with the emulator | 12:00 |
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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, did you get the roaming indicator issue fixed with the eri.xml in /data or did you have to edit the one in the framework-res.apk? | 12:03 |
| rpierce99 | no i did the /data | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | oh and it did work? | 12:03 |
| rpierce99 | yeah | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | sweet. | 12:03 |
| rpierce99 | before i did it I verified in our source that it pulled the alternate eri.xml from that location | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 12:04 |
| hyc | rpierce99: meanwhile, have you managed to send an MMS? | 12:05 |
| hyc | or does it just hang? | 12:05 |
| rpierce99 | well i sent you a mms reply to your email, but you said you didn't get it, and it didn't have any M attached | 12:05 |
| hyc | ok | 12:05 |
| rpierce99 | it said it sent though | 12:05 |
| rpierce99 | you said it was a known "black hole" | 12:05 |
| hyc | right, the deal with setting X-MDN and the proper user-agent and that junk | 12:06 |
| hyc | I may have to get this hero activated on boost mobile or something, to try that out | 12:08 |
| hyc | pay-as-you-go setup | 12:08 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, your RHOD seems to be lost in transit as well. usps hasn't updated their site... | 13:17 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: wish it would come soon. | 13:18 |
| * arrrghhh too | 13:18 | |
| arrrghhh | hrm that looked better before i hit enter. | 13:18 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: as jonpry is not around yet, what do i do with the scbs.log? | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | well he had an apk | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | didn't get it? | 13:21 |
| emwe | BABS? | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | if you don't have the apk, you have to run scbs manually | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:22 |
| emwe | installed | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | hehe i'm glad he took that name. | 13:22 |
| emwe | took all stuff rom his scbs repo on gitorious | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | should be able to apply the algo you got in the logs with BABS | 13:22 |
| emwe | and the rootfs.img from the irclog | 13:22 |
| emwe | is that an app? or just an android daemon? | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | i thought scbs was the android daemon | 13:23 |
| emwe | ah forget | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | and BABS was the app | 13:23 |
| emwe | installed too early | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 13:23 |
| emwe | adb install failed. didn't check | 13:23 |
| emwe | Ba tree ap | 13:23 |
| emwe | can i generate as often as i like? | 13:24 |
| emwe | no config file needed i assume? | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK | 13:24 |
| emwe | starting. | 13:25 |
| emwe | worthless i assume though | 13:25 |
| emwe | just running some minutes | 13:25 |
| rpierce99 | you can generage whenever you like, but it takes a LONG time if you have any logs of value | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 said about 10mins for 800k logfile | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | or so | 13:25 |
| emwe | it will write sequential log files? | 13:25 |
| rpierce99 | yes, new one every boot | 13:25 |
| emwe | i mean, generate a new one on reboot? | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:25 |
| emwe | neato | 13:25 |
| emwe | look at this battsmem: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/dot35/captures/2011-04-03-topa100-dot35-battsmem-6hplussleep-mostly-egde.png | 13:26 |
| rpierce99 | and he said to only use ones that are of good size, basically a full battery to low battery log, with some charge state changes in between | 13:26 |
| emwe | no whonder i was fooled by 7%/hour | 13:26 |
| emwe | it drains so quickly on the upper percentages | 13:26 |
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| emwe | which actualy drove me nuts thinking .35 pm is nuts itself | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea the very high percentages and very low seem... very inaccurate. moreso than usual :P | 13:27 |
| emwe | the topa params for the old camro algo could use some love, but now there's scbs. i really don't care ;) | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's jonpry's take on it too :P | 13:28 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: rpierce99 you got babs 0.03.c? | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't tested on jonpry's joy yet... | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | hmmmm, i don't have it up to tell you the exact version | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | but that sounds right | 13:30 |
| emwe | rpierce99: if you get to it - no hurries! - just let me know | 13:30 |
| emwe | jonpry just pushed the binary to his repo and used it | 13:30 |
| emwe | to lazy to setup the eclipse project | 13:30 |
| rpierce99 | oh, if it's newish then no | 13:31 |
| emwe | btw, i gave hycs ril a testride this weekend. all fine | 13:31 |
| rpierce99 | i got an apk from him a few days ago | 13:31 |
| emwe | except netloc crashing sensors on .35 + gb | 13:31 |
| emwe | but that's to be sorted. not the rils fault | 13:31 |
| rpierce99 | yeah WisTilt2 had 15 rhod300s use it all weekend, no SoDs on any of them | 13:31 |
| emwe | yah, read that. | 13:31 |
| emwe | just need more time working on sensors... | 13:31 |
| emwe | and now scbs interferes. but it's worth it. | 13:32 |
| Detule | lol just saw the tiad8 vs arrrghhh post on ppcg, that's too funny | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea not sure if it's funny... but it's certainly there. | 13:35 |
| Detule | this guy is making you a celebrity, it's gotta be a little flattering being somebody's nemesis | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol i guess. | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | tiad8 is just such a drama queen | 13:36 |
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| arrrghhh | if he had just complied by the rules, his junk would still be on the forums. | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | if he truly wanted to leave, why is he still making builds and trying to get others to repost them? | 13:36 |
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| Detule | shrug i used to like when he first packaged those builds with the 3d business, but then i couldn't keep up with the caps | 13:37 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | he didn't want to play ball, so his ass got thrown out. | 13:37 |
| Detule | not sure if he is getting compensated for his builds somehow (does he have a donate button?) but the level of commitment to being patted on the back is absurd | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | donations would be the only way | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | and i'm sure he was trolling for those. | 13:38 |
| rpierce99 | does his upload site give kickbacks? that site annoys me to no end | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | i just want the best builds for all - and tiad8 wouldn't say where he was getting crap from, or what he did. | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | what upload site, multiupload? | 13:39 |
| rpierce99 | yeah wherever his crap was posted | 13:39 |
| Madplaya1 | I got the files of his sense build ! | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | oh no | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | that's a free upload site. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | Madplaya1, so what, they're junk. old klinux build. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | probably with a bunch of other crap slapped together. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | a la tiad8. | 13:40 |
| Madplaya1 | I'm not sure what you mean because I barely know about Linux and all that other good stuff sorry. But, the build is very slow and not responsive. | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | klinux is a user | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | who made the original sense build - called it rosise. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | rosie* | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | tiad8 just kanged it and rebranded it. i don't think he's changed much, other than simple cosmetic things. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | for the record, it was always slow and unreponsive :P | 13:42 |
| Madplaya1 | Oh, lol yeah it's not a good build I thought it would be better. && lmao ! The links for the download were on his twitter. | 13:43 |
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| arrrghhh | why did you think it would be better? tiad8 hasn't exactly set a precedent of releasing good builds. | 13:45 |
| Madplaya1 | Cause of the video he put up, but once again I'm only a begginer for this stuff.... | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | well he's been banned for a reason | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | best to just ignore his dumbass. | 13:46 |
| Madplaya1 | Right. But, hey do you know why the MMS doesnt work ? Just wondering. | 13:49 |
| rpierce99 | cdma or gsm? | 13:49 |
| Madplaya1 | CDMA rhod 400 | 13:49 |
| rpierce99 | mms works differently on gsm and cdma, there are some tests going on that allow partial functionaly for mms, as in the message comes in, and there's a download button, but the download button doesn't work yet | 13:50 |
| rpierce99 | our phone thinks even when we are on cdma, that we are using a gsm phone | 13:50 |
| Madplaya1 | Oh, I see. Keep the work up. !(: | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | which is way farther than i thought we'd ever get on it. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | can't say i'm surprised tho that the RIL is the culprit for lack of MMS. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i also find it funny that more ppl seem to care about MMS than they do netloc. | 13:54 |
| hyc | oh well | 13:56 |
| hyc | CDMA netloc is soooo much better than GSM netloc | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | it is? | 13:56 |
| hyc | yes | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | sounds worse on paper, but i don't really understand how it works fully. on CDMA, is it just the loc of the tower? | 13:57 |
| hyc | every tower sends its at/long coordinates | 13:57 |
| hyc | gsm, you need a DB lookup | 13:57 |
| Madplaya1 | Well that's good all I need is mms and the 3.5 jack to work && I'll be happy for life hahaha :p | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | huh, i thought it was doing some sort of tower triangulation. | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | everyone says that | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | 'i just need this one feature, and i'll be set to use Android 100%' | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | meh, features will come - but not because one guy says he needs them to use Android 100% :P | 13:58 |
| rpierce99 | wish i had a need for MMS, sexting sounds fun | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | unless of course that one guy also picks up the code to fix it, which seems rare with those who say such things in the first place LOL | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol no joke. | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | i never send or receive mms... | 13:59 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: my favorite statement is "it isn't working, but i'm doing everything right, help me!" | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | you must be doing everything right then :P | 14:00 |
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| oddz | bwt has anyone seen it say Rev A using hyc's ril? i seem to be stuck at Rev 0 | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i've never looked | 14:02 |
| oddz | i doubt nyc has only rev 0 | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | oddz, where are you looking at? | 14:02 |
| oddz | status | 14:02 |
| oddz | also my speed test speed to match rev 0 speeds | 14:02 |
| oddz | speed tests* | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | mine says rev.0 too | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it's ever been correct before tho | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | lunchtime, bbl | 14:03 |
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| oddz | ya i never seen it go to Rev A even though i've been all around the city with this phone | 14:03 |
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| Madplaya1 | Whats netloc?? | 14:05 |
| rpierce99 | using the tower you are connected to in order to determine your location, as opposed to GPS, Android calls it "coarse location" | 14:09 |
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| emwe | rpierce99: the battery percentages will normalize the longer the logs or do i have to take care of something else after generating them? put scbs.conf somewhere? | 14:35 |
| rpierce99 | scbs.conf should be either at /etc or /sdcard | 14:35 |
| rpierce99 | you have to reboot atm to use the new log | 14:36 |
| emwe | ok, then perhaps just my 1h log isn't worth anything, yet. | 14:36 |
| rpierce99 | er conf | 14:36 |
| emwe | oh | 14:36 |
| emwe | i see. | 14:36 |
| rpierce99 | he's trying to find a way to safely stop and start it | 14:36 |
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| emwe | anybody ever managed to limit adb logcat output for a sepcific tag and verbosity? | 15:08 |
| emwe | (with the filterspec that is) | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | not the output | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | i just filter after the output... | 15:11 |
| emwe | yah, but pita. | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | i assume you want to filter before the output? | 15:11 |
| emwe | yap | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it's not soa easy. | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | grep? | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:11 |
| emwe | i don't wan't to rerun. just want it sitting there like a tail -f | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | other than grep, i'm not aware of any other method. | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | logcat keeps running until you kill it | 15:12 |
| emwe | there's the filterspec one can supply, but i fail to get it working | 15:14 |
| emwe | adb logcat --help | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | sounds fancy | 15:14 |
| emwe | so one could theoretically limit to specifc tags and verbosity levels. | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | theoretically :P | 15:15 |
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| emwe | ehm..... | 15:17 |
| emwe | one can logcat pipe to grep?! lol. | 15:17 |
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| arrrghhh | uh | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i mention grep... | 15:18 |
| emwe | i thought the logcat -d option with pipe to grep | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | never used a -d option | 15:18 |
| emwe | basically break out after the last line of output | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | that's a nice option, i've been wondering if that was possible. | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, weren't you as well? | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't even look at the logcat options. | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | evidently lolcat works as well LOL | 15:20 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i'm well known for not reading --help or man pages | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha same. or if i do, i just forget about all the silly options and only remember the one that i use over and over. | 15:21 |
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| rpierce99 | imho, -d should be the default, and there should be a -tail option or something | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea well | 15:23 |
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| arrrghhh | at least there is an option | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | what about a scrolling dmesg too? tha'd be nice. i guess i should see if there's a manpage :P | 15:23 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: adb shell cat /proc/kmsg | 15:23 |
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| arrrghhh | o right. | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, see we're both dumb today :P | 15:24 |
| emwe | always nice to get to know sth which helps being more productive. | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | indeedy | 15:27 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: on your phone settings menu | 15:28 |
| hyc | do you have Roaming preference? | 15:28 |
| rpierce99 | hyc: yes | 15:28 |
| hyc | how many options does it have? | 15:29 |
| rpierce99 | 2 | 15:29 |
| rpierce99 | home and automatic | 15:29 |
| hyc | ok | 15:29 |
| hyc | ril.h defines a 3rd choice | 15:29 |
| hyc | but I only have those 2 here as well | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, is your name arrrghhh ? | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | what he said tho ;) | 15:30 |
| hyc | anyway, I've implemented those two choices | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | schweet | 15:30 |
| hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-test.zip | 15:31 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i just know you're working today and figured i'd save you the time | 15:31 |
| Detule | neigher one seems to be selected by default though, so maybe that's option 3 | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol i'm just giving you crap. | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | don't sweat it. | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | i just remember in school - is your name arrrghhh ? :P | 15:31 |
| rpierce99 | wasn't sweating it, lol | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | (yes i was called that in school too) | 15:31 |
| hyc | lemme know if that one actually does anything for you | 15:31 |
| hyc | logcat too | 15:32 |
| rpierce99 | honestly I have that menu memorized because i'm an idiot and i'm on my phone too much | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | do you have to keep changing that setting? | 15:32 |
| rpierce99 | nope | 15:32 |
| hyc | its unimplemented in current ril anyway :P | 15:32 |
| hyc | (previous) | 15:33 |
| hyc | but now I see why people talk about sense rom | 15:33 |
| hyc | I'm pretty sure they've done all of their ril customization from the java side | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | in your thread? | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | nvm | 15:34 |
| hyc | because nothing shows up in the libril* binaries | 15:34 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Zvi K., who says: Thanks allot for your efforts and keep going! | 17:06 |
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| DCMedic | hey arrrghhh | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | yo | 17:12 |
| DCMedic | standby, sorry | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 17:14 |
| stinebd_ | arrrghhh: i got this amazing tip via pm from a helpful user on xda | 17:16 |
| stinebd_ | XDANDROID- This will speed up the completion | 17:17 |
| stinebd_ | Sorry to bother you but you should check this site. http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/home | 17:17 |
| stinebd_ | This site has been working on the gingerbread for android since it was release. It can help you speed up the completion. Thank you for your time. | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd_, wtf i got the same thing. | 17:18 |
| stinebd_ | i can't believe nobody here knew about that site | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | i told him that's reef's old site... and how the hell can we get anything new from his old site lol | 17:18 |
| stinebd_ | they seem to be doing great work | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:18 |
| stinebd_ | i'm ready to shut down xdandroid.com and just have it redirect there | 17:18 |
| stinebd_ | we're a bunch of bums compared to that jewel | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | ohgod | 17:19 |
| DCMedic | arrrghhh nevermind...\ | 17:22 |
| DCMedic | thnaks | 17:22 |
| DCMedic | thanks* | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | glad i could be of assistance? | 17:24 |
| DCMedic | lol | 17:24 |
| DCMedic | thanks for being patient | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | np | 17:24 |
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| Entropy512 | every time I've played with logcat's filterspec, it has been a failure | 17:41 |
| Entropy512 | I'd love to, for example, see all location-related stuff, both in system and radio buffers | 17:41 |
| Entropy512 | omg | 17:43 |
| Entropy512 | mega-juggernaut inc | 17:43 |
| Entropy512 | TI is buying National Semi | 17:43 |
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| j_oker | hello everyone. | 18:36 |
| j_oker | I just made my first attempt at loading android...it booted properly but then rebooted as soon as the android finished loading...is that a common issue? | 18:38 |
| rpierce99 | first boots can do some weird things | 18:39 |
| rpierce99 | if it continues, it's a problem | 18:39 |
| j_oker | Okay, retrying it now. | 18:39 |
| j_oker | I'm going to be spending the next 6 hours perfecting this, aren't I? | 18:40 |
| rpierce99 | but if it only happens that one time, chalk it up to the first boot ghosts | 18:40 |
| rpierce99 | I wouldn't say perfecting, but if you're like me once you put android on it you won't stop playing with it | 18:40 |
| j_oker | So i'm using the FRX06 bundle...is that the best one to start it with right now? Thought I saw a newer test build but didn't see where to dl it. | 18:41 |
| rpierce99 | there are newer pieces, but the FRX06 bundle is the most stable bundle available | 18:41 |
| rpierce99 | the newer pieces fix some known issues, but sometimes cause new ones, so you have to be careful | 18:41 |
| j_oker | Nope, rebooted again. I formatted the card but its fat32, should it be something else? | 18:42 |
| rpierce99 | get running stable and get used to how it works, then think about going into some tests | 18:42 |
| rpierce99 | what phone? | 18:42 |
| rpierce99 | and carrier | 18:42 |
| j_oker | sprint, touch pro 2... | 18:43 |
| j_oker | rhod400 i do believe | 18:43 |
| rpierce99 | that's the same phone i have, and the person who posted that bundle | 18:43 |
| rpierce99 | shouldn't have any issues | 18:43 |
| rpierce99 | try not to use it for a few minutes after it boots | 18:44 |
| rpierce99 | let the light on it go solid green | 18:44 |
| j_oker | all i did was format the card, copy everything in the zip, move the rhod400 startup file to the root and then booted haret. haven't made any changes... | 18:44 |
| j_oker | but yes, i could have been impatient.. :) | 18:44 |
| rpierce99 | the issue is during the first boot a LOT of stuff is happening, that only happens the first time | 18:44 |
| rpierce99 | if you try to do stuff while all that's going on, sometimes the processor gets wacky | 18:45 |
| j_oker | okay...and i saw a post about deleting the file it creates the first boot and letting it try again, which may be what i need to do if it doesn't work this 3rd time. but i'll try not to touch at all.... will that be the same for every boot - just wait for the green light? | 18:46 |
| rpierce99 | no, just the first time | 18:47 |
| rpierce99 | the green light indicates that it is truly sleeping | 18:47 |
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| j_oker | that worked...thanks, you're awesome. phone and data both working. | 18:50 |
| rpierce99 | have you read the FAQ? | 18:50 |
| j_oker | now to customize for hours...it seems a slight laggy, sometimes, is that normal? | 18:51 |
| j_oker | parts of it, yes... need to read more now that i know it works. | 18:51 |
| rpierce99 | our phones weren't meant to run android, sometimes it will feel sluggish, but a lot of it has to do with the software you're running | 18:52 |
| rpierce99 | a lot of the fancier games won't run smoothly | 18:52 |
| rpierce99 | the default launcher is ok at best | 18:52 |
| rpierce99 | the zeam launcher with transitions disabled seems snappiest to me | 18:52 |
| rpierce99 | but some people like more features | 18:52 |
| j_oker | cool, i'll have to try it out. I"m on Sero...so android at 30 a month is hard to argue with | 18:53 |
| rpierce99 | i'm on a company phone, android for free :) | 18:53 |
| j_oker | Well, off to play. Thanks again...i'm sure i'll be back... :) | 18:54 |
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| hyc | grumble. no sqlite3 binary on my cdma hero | 19:01 |
| rpierce99 | can't say that's surprising, all they would need to include would be the java lib | 19:01 |
| hyc | copying just the binary from my other phone doesn't work, must be missing something | 19:01 |
| rpierce99 | same instruction set? | 19:01 |
| hyc | yeah | 19:02 |
| rpierce99 | wonder if there's an app for that | 19:02 |
| hyc | lol | 19:02 |
| hyc | could just be missing a config file | 19:02 |
| hyc | that's what the error msg implies | 19:03 |
| hyc | cannot locate sqlite3_config...CANNOT LINK EXECUTABLE | 19:03 |
| hyc | hm, that's probably more a missing shared lib | 19:04 |
| hyc | or just a version mismatch froyo vs eclair | 19:05 |
| rpierce99 | according to one guy, copy binary into /system/xbin, chmod 777 it, then run it | 19:06 |
| hyc | yeah that's what I did originally | 19:06 |
| hyc | but I copied from a phone running 2.2, and my hero is now on 2.1 | 19:07 |
| hyc | probably the shared libs don't match | 19:07 |
| rpierce99 | i've got a 2.1 hero build downloaded, wonder if it has sqlite3 in it | 19:09 |
| rpierce99 | oh wait no i deleted it because it was dumb | 19:10 |
| rpierce99 | oh but it's still on my sdcard i think | 19:10 |
| hyc | looks like I will have to active some kind of service on this, update PRL seems to want to use the mobile data, not wifi | 19:10 |
| hyc | probably leave that for later... | 19:11 |
| rpierce99 | why doesn't the cdma mode setting seem to work on GB, or was I doing something wrong? | 19:14 |
| rpierce99 | i have a hero sqlite3 | 19:16 |
| rpierce99 | from 2.1 sense | 19:16 |
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| hyc | cool, got a link? | 19:23 |
| hyc | which mode setting? | 19:23 |
| rpierce99 | i just stripped it out of a system.ext2 | 19:23 |
| hyc | hmm guess I could download a build and do the same | 19:24 |
| rpierce99 | i could up it | 19:24 |
| rpierce99 | where's a good spot | 19:24 |
| rpierce99 | these intarwebs are complicated | 19:24 |
| hyc | i guess you can't attach to a PM huh | 19:25 |
| rpierce99 | http://www.multiupload.com/LFPNI3JF25 | 19:25 |
| hyc | cool | 19:25 |
| hyc | got it, thanks | 19:27 |
| hyc | and that works | 19:28 |
| hyc | so my telephony db has 3 rows: CDMA, Production, and Android | 19:32 |
| rpierce99 | in carriers? | 19:33 |
| hyc | the android one is 310995, so that matches the 310995 that was hardcoded in the old RIL | 19:33 |
| hyc | yes | 19:33 |
| rpierce99 | yeah all of the stuff I found online talked about product | 19:33 |
| rpierce99 | er production | 19:33 |
| rpierce99 | which one has a non-null value for current | 19:33 |
| rpierce99 | (the last field) | 19:33 |
| hyc | none | 19:34 |
| hyc | this phone is not activated | 19:34 |
| rpierce99 | oh | 19:34 |
| hyc | and doesn't get a data connection | 19:34 |
| stinebd | do you get to talk to the angry sprint guy too? | 19:34 |
| hyc | yep | 19:34 |
| stinebd | i love that guy | 19:35 |
| stinebd | in a totally heterosexual way | 19:35 |
| hyc | uhhh huhhh | 19:35 |
| * stinebd whistles nonchalantly | 19:35 | |
| hyc | well, the mcc/mnc for the CDMA and Production rows areall zero | 19:36 |
| hyc | not sure how they would ever match up | 19:36 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know what criteria android uses to pick one when it decides which one should be current | 19:36 |
| hyc | I had assumed it was matching the numeric operator ID | 19:37 |
| hyc | the htc ril doesn't even bother to query the string-format operator IDs | 19:37 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: traced my pduparser exception yet? /sarcasm | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | so is each CDMA build custom? lol | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps we should talk to some native android customizers... | 19:38 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: each ril is custom | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:38 |
| hyc | I dunno, but this is a Sprint 2.1 image | 19:39 |
| hyc | pre-rooted but I presume nothing else was changed | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | it was rooted but nothing else was changed? | 19:39 |
| hyc | especially since none of the usual helpful tools were installed :P | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 19:41 |
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790889 | 19:41 |
| hyc | well, it has some stuff | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | heh, hyc i think you scare noobs. | 19:41 |
| hyc | but it also lied. saidflash_image was added back but it was missing | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | keep up the good work | 19:42 |
| hyc | I had to copy that | 19:42 |
| hyc | lol | 19:42 |
| hyc | what makes you say that? and good. :P | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | just got a PM from that guy who can't figure out how to bind mount your test RIL | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | he said he posted in your thread, i think it's the same guy you told to stay away if you don't know wtf you're doing. | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:42 |
| rpierce99 | pretty funny when arrrghhh is the most noob-friendly | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i know why do they PM me? it's only going to end in pain. | 19:43 |
| hyc | lol | 19:43 |
| hyc | well. I think feature-wise it's pretty complete. could stop for a bit and think about a release. | 19:44 |
| hyc | though I'd still like to get the /system/bin/pppd thing worked out first | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | think about a release? | 19:44 |
| odz | how about toggling 2g mode? | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | you're going to push this code back to XDAndroid right? | 19:45 |
| hyc | I've already pushed 1 merge request | 19:45 |
| hyc | it's up to XDAndroid to pick it up now. | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough | 19:45 |
| stinebd | oh yeah i forgot to tell you i rejected that | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:45 |
| hyc | :P | 19:45 |
| stinebd | i only accept svn formatted patches | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | and the ball is officially dropped | 19:45 |
| hyc | LOL | 19:46 |
| * odz gets the popcorn | 19:46 | |
| * hyc finds a brick to tie the patch to | 19:46 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:46 |
| stinebd | i do have one serious request next time though | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | now to find a window to throw said brick thru... | 19:46 |
| stinebd | please email me when you file a merge request, because gitorious doesn't | 19:46 |
| hyc | ok | 19:46 |
| stinebd | and that really pisses me off | 19:46 |
| rpierce99 | seems like kind of an important feature | 19:47 |
| stinebd | yeah really | 19:47 |
| rpierce99 | does github do it? | 19:47 |
| stinebd | that and gitorious being accessible are the two most important features that gitorious lacks | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:47 |
| hyc | aside from that, do you have any preferences about frequency? only merge once at the final rev? | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | pretty big feature... accessibility | 19:48 |
| hyc | or intermediate checkpoints too | 19:48 |
| stinebd | i have no preference | 19:48 |
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| stinebd | rpierce99: we can't use github anyway | 19:48 |
| stinebd | github has better features, including post-commit hooks | 19:49 |
| hyc | oh, sorry just remembered another topic | 19:51 |
| hyc | about switching GSM/CDMA on the fly | 19:51 |
| hyc | I think we just have to send an unsolicited SIM_READY to enter GSM mode | 19:51 |
| hyc | and NV_READY to enter CDMA mode | 19:51 |
| hyc | and android will kill the current phone and start the appropriate one | 19:52 |
| rpierce99 | how would a user send an "unsolicited" anything, haha | 19:52 |
| hyc | no... as a side effect of switching modes in the phone menu | 19:53 |
| rpierce99 | the phone has a menu for that? | 19:53 |
| stinebd | it does now baby | 19:53 |
| rpierce99 | oh the same one that sets mode 4 | 19:53 |
| hyc | remember when you were first testing the network_mode setting, and it always started in CDMA but then switched to GSM | 19:53 |
| hyc | because the RIL was always sending a SIM_NOT_READY/SIM_READY msg | 19:53 |
| hyc | yep | 19:54 |
| rpierce99 | yeah that's the mode menu i was asking about on gb hyc, that menu didn't seem to switch me to cdma mode yesterday | 19:54 |
| hyc | switching from what? | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | fake gsm i assume | 19:54 |
| hyc | well right now it doesn't send the necessary unsolicited msg | 19:55 |
| rpierce99 | i replaced the ril on my gb build with yours and booted, went into the menu | 19:55 |
| hyc | right now it only sends that at startup. actually as an result of the PowerOn request. | 19:55 |
| rpierce99 | whatever i changed it to, it died, and on reboot it was back to what it was before | 19:55 |
| rpierce99 | sorry it's been a while since i tested it so i don't remember the details | 19:56 |
| rpierce99 | but as far as you know you can use the menu to switch to 4 on GB? | 19:56 |
| hyc | no | 19:56 |
| hyc | right now only the DB setting works | 19:56 |
| rpierce99 | doesn't the menu change the db? | 19:56 |
| hyc | only if the request succeeds | 19:57 |
| hyc | which it won't | 19:57 |
| rpierce99 | oic | 19:57 |
| stinebd | stupid smart android | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:57 |
| hyc | the other puzzle to me is mode 7 | 19:58 |
| hyc | Auto GSM/CDMA | 19:58 |
| hyc | I have no idea how it decides what to start on | 19:58 |
| hyc | we still need some mechanism to discover what modes the phone supports | 19:58 |
| rpierce99 | on a world phone I would assume you'd default to CDMA and if that fails fall back to GSM, but I think you said you can't do that | 19:59 |
| hyc | I dunno, maybe android handles this in the java side | 19:59 |
| hyc | haven't seen it in action, so no guesses yet | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | winmo can do both no? | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | roam in gsm? | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not entirely sure how that works, as i've never used a SIM in this phone. | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | or... any phone since my nextel days... | 20:00 |
| hyc | heh | 20:00 |
| hyc | I guess just querying the radio version might be enough | 20:00 |
| hyc | we would just know that 4.xx is GSM-only | 20:01 |
| hyc | and whatever you guys are running is dual-mode | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | quittin time! cya guys later. | 20:01 |
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| hyc | think that would be workable for now? | 20:02 |
| hyc | what radio version do rhod400/rhod500 use? | 20:02 |
| hyc | I see 2.32.00 in this log | 20:03 |
| D3tul3 | sprint is 2.32 verizon is something else, there are a few versions around | 20:03 |
| rpierce99 | +RADIOVER: 61.27W.25.23U ? | 20:04 |
| hyc | that's the AMSS | 20:04 |
| hyc | which I suppose is good enough | 20:04 |
| hyc | the AT@V is the radio version | 20:04 |
| rpierce99 | ah | 20:04 |
| hyc | or, what we call it, in terms of flashing them | 20:04 |
| D3tul3 | cdma radio versions: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp2-development/90342-radio-collection-update-06-17-10-rhodium_w-radio-roms-mirrors-included.html | 20:05 |
| rpierce99 | AT< 2.32.00WF | 20:05 |
| hyc | cool | 20:05 |
| Entropy512 | crud, another hang without logcat running | 20:06 |
| Entropy512 | I need to find an easy way to just start it going. :) | 20:06 |
| hyc | oh, their version numbers are from 1.xx to 2.xx | 20:07 |
| hyc | I guess another option is just to try commands that are fairly GSM or CDMA-specific | 20:10 |
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| rpierce99 | if AT+CLAC consists of more than just the number 4, GSM :P | 20:10 |
| hyc | lol | 20:10 |
| hyc | interesting read http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003345.html | 20:14 |
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| Entropy512 | speaking of interesting reads, check out this line from one of my logcats | 20:21 |
| Entropy512 | 04-02 20:02:36.040 D/AT (1340)AT< +Q3GNCELL: "08A35232",24,2,356,17,385,13 | 20:22 |
| Entropy512 | in rare occasions | 20:22 |
| Entropy512 | Q3GNCELL does return more than just the current tower and SS | 20:22 |
| hyc | yeah | 20:22 |
| Entropy512 | but whatever the heck it's returning aren't recognizable CIDs | 20:22 |
| hyc | very rarely for me too | 20:22 |
| hyc | and 3g doesn't return CIDs | 20:22 |
| hyc | ril.h documents this already | 20:23 |
| Entropy512 | ah missed that | 20:23 |
| Entropy512 | :P | 20:23 |
| hyc | those are CDMA scrambling codes | 20:23 |
| Entropy512 | ah | 20:23 |
| hyc | because when multiple towers are in prximity, they each have to use a different code sequence | 20:23 |
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| Entropy512 | ah, so a possible sign of upcoming handoff | 20:24 |
| hyc | maybe | 20:24 |
| hyc | so I was thinking, we could cheat and always return the current tower info | 20:24 |
| Entropy512 | will have to look and see how the netloc code handles those | 20:24 |
| hyc | that's basically what the old RIL always did | 20:25 |
| Entropy512 | because I'm wondering if that stuff confuses it | 20:25 |
| hyc | no, the CDMA phone app is built with all this taken into account | 20:25 |
| hyc | rather, the telephony framework | 20:25 |
| Entropy512 | ok, so it knows that when in 3G mode | 20:25 |
| Entropy512 | don't use that crap for determining loc | 20:25 |
| hyc | er GSM phone app | 20:25 |
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| hyc | it still uses it for loc | 20:26 |
| hyc | because those are still identifiers and signal strengths of those other towers | 20:26 |
| Entropy512 | seems like using scrambling codes to determine loc would be bad, since they can change | 20:26 |
| hyc | dunno | 20:26 |
| Entropy512 | tower CIDs are far less likely to change | 20:26 |
| hyc | true | 20:26 |
| hyc | but for whatever reason, that's how they did 3g... | 20:27 |
| hyc | mebbe those codes are actually fixed per tower | 20:27 |
| Entropy512 | Not sure - if not using them for netloc | 20:27 |
| hyc | this scrambling isn't for security/privacy | 20:27 |
| Entropy512 | they likely facilitate handoffs | 20:27 |
| Entropy512 | e.g. faster locking to the next tower | 20:27 |
| hyc | just for channel sharing | 20:27 |
| Entropy512 | since it probably takes a while for the receiver to lock onto whatever training sequence is associated with the new code | 20:28 |
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| D3tul3 | hey hyc did you see odz's earlier note on irc about network status showing Rev 0 on cdma? | 20:47 |
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| D3tul3 | I am only asking because I just ran the Speed Test app from the market with your radio vs stock radio and I am getting dl speeds that are notable lower with your radio | 20:47 |
| D3tul3 | not that the speed test is very reliable | 20:47 |
| D3tul3 | i take it back | 20:48 |
| D3tul3 | i guess the speed test app is NOT very reliable | 20:48 |
| hyc | heh | 20:49 |
| D3tul3 | all speeds are up to par | 20:49 |
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| hyc | it's possible that we're missing a key init command | 20:50 |
| stinebd | key init? | 20:50 |
| D3tul3 | and I was trying to be all scientific...the average of three trials ~300kbps...the fourth outlier 800kbps...hah | 20:50 |
| hyc | and it's possible that I'm decoding the network type wrong | 20:50 |
| hyc | but both are pretty unlikely by now, given all the logs I've analyzed | 20:50 |
| Entropy512 | which speedtest app? | 20:52 |
| hyc | wow, bizarre log on the hero when running maps | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'd assume _the_ Speed Test app. | 20:53 |
| Entropy512 | I know the speedtest.net one hangs on me all the time, the xtremelabs one works much better | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | xtremelabs eh | 20:53 |
| stinebd | hangs? | 20:53 |
| stinebd | on gingerbread? | 20:53 |
| D3tul3 | speedtest.net | 20:53 |
| Entropy512 | hyc: bizarre? | 20:54 |
| Entropy512 | stinebd: froyo | 20:54 |
| hyc | A stream of $HTC_PDSS responses | 20:54 |
| stinebd | Entropy512: does it hang with gps turned off? | 20:54 |
| hyc | UNSOL_CDMA_POSITION_DETERMINATION_SESSION_STATUS | 20:54 |
| Entropy512 | doesn't hang the phone, just stops doing anything and doesn't provide any upload data | 20:54 |
| stinebd | oh | 20:54 |
| stinebd | shitty ril then | 20:54 |
| Entropy512 | also gives wildly differing numbers | 20:55 |
| Entropy512 | xtremelabs speedtest app is nice and consistent | 20:55 |
| Entropy512 | and seems less bloated | 20:55 |
| hyc | so apparently the phone gives some command to the modem outside of the AT command channel | 20:55 |
| hyc | and then the modem just starts feeding position data back continuously | 20:55 |
| hyc | because i don't have the command that started it | 20:55 |
| Entropy512 | *runs away in terror from RPC* | 20:56 |
| Entropy512 | sounds like the wacked-ass shit that goes on with /dev/smd27 (GPS NMEA data) | 20:56 |
| hyc | could be | 20:56 |
| Entropy512 | you don't get anything unless it gets poked repeatedly via the RPC interface | 20:56 |
| hyc | the actual gps data isn't on this log | 20:56 |
| hyc | just a status report I guess saying that it's working on it | 20:57 |
| Entropy512 | the hero might be doing something similar - poke it with RPC and the RIL gets unsols from the AT channel | 20:57 |
| hyc | position accurate to 3 meters. sheesh. the distance from me to my coffee cup. | 20:57 |
| Entropy512 | that says to me that somehow you've got a GPS lock | 21:00 |
| Entropy512 | wifi location is a few tens of meters | 21:01 |
| hyc | yeah, gps was enabled that time | 21:01 |
| hyc | gps off, ~60 meters | 21:01 |
| Entropy512 | ah | 21:01 |
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| hyc | :q | 21:14 |
| hyc | oops | 21:14 |
| stinebd | this aint vi, you can't make us all leave like that | 21:14 |
| stinebd | and even if it were, you need :q! | 21:14 |
| hyc | lol | 21:14 |
| rpierce99 | i can never figure out how to get out of those damn command line text editors | 21:15 |
| stinebd | ctrl-z kill -9 %1 | 21:15 |
| stinebd | take THAT nano | 21:15 |
| hyc | so basically all rhods have GSM support, and rhod400/500 additionally do CDMA | 21:21 |
| hyc | so issuing a GSM-specific command would be pointless | 21:21 |
| hyc | the only thing interesting to do is a CDMA-specific command | 21:21 |
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| hyc | ok, one of you worldphone guys is going to have to get a SIM card and try your phone in real GSM mode | 21:39 |
| hyc | it just occurred to me that your phones don't support all of the GSM commands we're using | 21:39 |
| hyc | (maybe) | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | i don't have an active sim, sorry | 21:41 |
| hyc | arrrghhh said he could borrow one or something | 21:43 |
| hyc | do you even know if your phones are sim locked? | 21:43 |
| rpierce99 | yeah you have to sim unlock it to use it with us gsm carriers | 21:47 |
| rpierce99 | which i won't be doing | 21:47 |
| hyc | ok | 21:47 |
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| hyc | funny. I think the HTC ril is returning incorrect Operator IDs | 21:52 |
| hyc | and since I followed them, so are we | 21:53 |
| hyc | radio reports << +HTC_SRV_STATUS: 0,2,"0310000" | 21:53 |
| hyc | RIL returns < OPERATOR {Sprint, Sprint, 31000, 7} | 21:53 |
| hyc | notice that a zero is missing from operator ID | 21:53 |
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| hyc | I wonder why stinebd doesn't get gitorious email. I just got an email anbout the merge request closing. | 23:00 |
| Entropy512 | Maybe because the xdandroid repos are somehow just owned by "xdandroid", while in your case, they're all under ~hyc | 23:01 |
| hyc | ah, ok | 23:01 |
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