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| hyc | arrrghhh: would be good to get a logcat -b radio while you're receiving an MMS | 01:28 |
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| arrrghhh | k | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | i can ask my gf to send me one tomorrow | 01:29 |
| hyc | cool | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | does it matter what RIL i'm on? | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | with all these new RIL options suddenly | 01:31 |
| hyc | probably not. just use the htcgeneric you already have | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | k | 01:32 |
| hyc | unless you want to use one of mine | 01:32 |
| hyc | shouldn't make much difference | 01:32 |
| arrrghhh | k | 01:32 |
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| odz | no need you can email yourself a pic | 01:37 |
| odz | http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/22698 | 01:37 |
| odz | @pm.sprint.com works | 01:39 |
| arrrghhh | o right' | 01:43 |
| odz | its @vzwpix.com for verizon also | 01:43 |
| hyc | there's already code in the ril to detect voicemail notification SMSs | 01:47 |
| hyc | there's probably another special case for MMSs that just needs to be written | 01:47 |
| rpierce99 | reading over the thread from earlier I think part of the challenge is sprints funky MMS handling, with it really being picture mail in most cases | 01:48 |
| rpierce99 | sounds like very few sprint phones handle true MMS | 01:48 |
| hyc | could be | 01:48 |
| hyc | though not sure what "true MMS" actually is. If I receive an MMS while my mobile data is turned off, I just get an SMS with a "click here to download" | 01:49 |
| hyc | and this is GSM | 01:49 |
| hyc | so maybe it's all handled the same way at the bottom | 01:49 |
| rpierce99 | from the thread it sounds like an MMS is a text message with an embedded description of where to download the file, the phone is then supposed to go grab it automatically and throw it in there as if it came with the message | 01:50 |
| hyc | yeah | 01:50 |
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| JohnPopes | hey, anyone can give me a quick tip? | 07:27 |
| JohnPopes | what should i do with the ext2? i never dealed with that, just want to put the files in my andboot folder | 07:29 |
| JohnPopes | but the instructions here don't mention any ext2 file | 07:30 |
| JohnPopes | anyone? | 07:32 |
| JohnPopes | hello? | 07:34 |
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| JohnPopes | is anyone alive here? | 07:43 |
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| johnpopes | hello, i can't follow the instructions on the wiki, what should i do with the ext2? arent the instructions for a simple fat32 andboot folder install? | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 09:49 |
| mertonst | (just came in) I heve xdandroid running from my fat32 folder? | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | instructions to do what | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | mertonst, what's your question | 09:50 |
| arrrghhh | johnpopes, are you trying to update an install...? | 09:50 |
| mertonst | sorry i was replying om johnpopes. My question is close to his. I want to know if installing xdandroid in a ext2 partitioned drive on my touch diamond will make it any faster. | 09:51 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 09:52 |
| arrrghhh | mertonst, probably not | 09:52 |
| arrrghhh | johnpopes, most builds are using loop mounts, where you just need a single fat32 partition | 09:52 |
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| mertonst | ok thanks. Any chance i can speed it up in any other way? like installing on internal memory and pointing the ext2 files to my external memory (what would be the flash card) ? | 09:54 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps if nand gets a-workin for diam | 09:54 |
| arrrghhh | might get a small speed boost | 09:54 |
| arrrghhh | there's also builds that require ext2 partitions that also supposedly benefit from compcache and swap... | 09:54 |
| arrrghhh | but apples to apples it won't be that much faster. | 09:55 |
| arrrghhh | there's some chefs out there making builds for the DIAM specifically, optimized for DIAM. | 09:55 |
| mertonst | ah will do a google crawl on that later :P thanks | 09:55 |
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| johnpopes | sorry, i was on the phone | 10:10 |
| johnpopes | so, the instructions are for using system.sqsh | 10:11 |
| johnpopes | system.ext2 can be used in the same way? | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | wow | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | link me to the directions you're following | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | they sound ancient | 10:11 |
| johnpopes | just put it in the andboot folder along the initr, startup.txt etc? | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | what are you trying to achieve? | 10:12 |
| arrrghhh | are you just updating an old build? | 10:12 |
| johnpopes | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 10:12 |
| johnpopes | nop i'm trying to set up the andboot folder properly | 10:13 |
| johnpopes | so i can tweak startup.txt and try some haret versions to try and boot it on htc mega | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh.. | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | man i didn't even know that page existed | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea if you're on a newer kernel, .ext2 should work just fine | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | don't think that device is supported by our port tho | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | i assume you know that and are still trying to get it to work ;) | 10:14 |
| johnpopes | I know, it won't boot, haret doesnt support msm7225, but I still wanna try some | 10:14 |
| johnpopes | things | 10:15 |
| johnpopes | and see what can i learn from it | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | it's not haret | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | it's the kernel | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't support that proc | 10:15 |
| johnpopes | i have a zImage i want to try | 10:16 |
| johnpopes | but it won't get to the kernel, haret hangs before | 10:16 |
| johnpopes | some guys are trying to port it to this device over at xda, and can't do anything myself, i just want to try some stuff and learn something about it | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 10:19 |
| johnpopes | but im stuck with some noob doubts | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | difficult when there's no support | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | and no devs to hack at it :P | 10:21 |
| johnpopes | yep | 10:21 |
| johnpopes | but i read all the discussions on the internet about android on mega lol | 10:22 |
| johnpopes | really.. all. | 10:22 |
| arrrghhh | i've read a few trying to help you guys | 10:22 |
| johnpopes | so i collected some stuff from here and there, but i find the hared guides too confusing | 10:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea it's not easy, porting Android to a WinMo phone. | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | especially starting :P | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | although perhaps in our case finishing is the difficult part... | 10:23 |
| johnpopes | so system.ext2 and system.sqsh have the same purpose?? is it used the same way? | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | just different types | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | sqshfs vs ext2 | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | file system difference | 10:24 |
| johnpopes | uhm, but htc have android phones with the same configuration than mega. The problem now is haret, and people are giving up because of it... if we could get past it and boot android all wrong and upside down at least ppl would get some incentives | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | if you say so | 10:25 |
| johnpopes | is the kernel in there or in the zImage? | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | kernel = zImage | 10:26 |
| johnpopes | do you know you can i get logs from haret? | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 10:28 |
| johnpopes | i saw some thinmg about a earlyharetlog.txt file | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | haretconsole, but that's not really logs from haret | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | ramconsole i guess | 10:28 |
| johnpopes | but it is now working | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not following | 10:29 |
| johnpopes | sorry | 10:29 |
| johnpopes | i saw something about creating a earlyharetlog.txt file | 10:30 |
| johnpopes | but haret isn't writing into it | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | i've been spoiled by being able to boot android | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not so good at debugging basics like that.. | 10:30 |
| johnpopes | im not so good at none lol :) | 10:32 |
| johnpopes | i have 2 versions of haret | 10:33 |
| johnpopes | one compiled for the mega, it recognizes the device instead of generic arm | 10:34 |
| johnpopes | but returns to wm after the go go go msg | 10:34 |
| johnpopes | the normal haret just asks me to insert ramaddr start value.. | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | do you have that in the startup.txt? | 10:35 |
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| hyc | So what's a Huwaei U8150? | 11:35 |
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| arrrghhh | crappy chinese phone | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | i think cricket picks them up here | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | are you talking about that ROM posted? | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | build really | 11:37 |
| hyc | yeah | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | i've been pushing midnight to post his stuff on xda-devs | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | basically the dev tiad8 was kanging from. | 11:37 |
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| hyc | ohhh | 11:40 |
| hyc | so not much new then | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | just trying to fill that gap | 11:40 |
| hyc | cool | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | custom builds are nice, gives noobs choices. | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | plus, tiad8 is still kanging from him | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | and posting his crap on twitter | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to give people a reason to ignore him | 11:41 |
| hyc | lol | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | because right now they have no reason to ignore him... | 11:41 |
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| Kraln | arrrghhh: any word? | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | seems it's still somewheres | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | but not with emwe | 12:21 |
| Kraln | :| | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | ofc USPS tracking is atrocious | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | so no clue where it's actually at... | 12:22 |
| emwe | Kraln: heya. the money reached you, yes? | 12:22 |
| Kraln | oh, yeah | 12:23 |
| Kraln | I was just asking if the phone had reached you | 12:23 |
| emwe | i think we never talked again since then. | 12:23 |
| emwe | no, not yet. but the raph from australia took like 5 weeks or so | 12:23 |
| Kraln | geez | 12:23 |
| emwe | and had a visit at the toll office. luckily no fees. | 12:23 |
| emwe | perhaps they are not that friendly this time ;) | 12:23 |
| Kraln | I marked mine as damaged/for development value $25 | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | we'll see | 12:24 |
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| arrrghhh | Kraln, that sucks. | 12:30 |
| Kraln | ? | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | $25 value | 12:30 |
| IceMonkey | Guys anything on Schubert? | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | if it's lost in shipping | 12:30 |
| Kraln | no that's the customs declaration | 12:31 |
| Kraln | it is going overseas, so it is insured for $100 minimum | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | IceMonkey, what's schubert? | 12:31 |
| IceMonkey | :) | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 12:32 |
| IceMonkey | HD7 | 12:32 |
| IceMonkey | android status | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | what does that have to do with XDAndroid? | 12:33 |
| IceMonkey | nothing... | 12:34 |
| IceMonkey | just asking | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:34 |
| ryannathans | okay i downloaded xdandroid source tree | 12:44 |
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| ryannathans | where do i start, is there a suite of software or something to aid? | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | for? | 12:45 |
| ryannathans | never looked at android source before, i dont know what is what | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | there's a lot | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | couple of things | 12:47 |
| ryannathans | is tthere a list of all related 'tools' | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | you just need a text editor to code | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | most seem to like vi | 12:50 |
| ryannathans | vi is horrid, i prefer nano | 12:50 |
| ryannathans | sweet, i had a look at some other source and people had made tools for editing various things, some even had guis | 12:51 |
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| ryannathans | it was quite a while back though | 12:51 |
| rpierce99 | eclipse works well for java | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | i don't like vi either | 12:51 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't really like nano, but it works for small quick conf file edits. | 12:52 |
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| ryannathans | what editer do you usem | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | in windows | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | notepad++ | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't found a good equivalent for linux for whatever reason. i haven't really looked that hard either :P | 12:53 |
| rpierce99 | yeah when i first got my mac i tried to find a notepad++ clone, no luck | 12:53 |
| ryannathans | what do you work in? windows or linux? | 12:54 |
| rpierce99 | ended up trying some wine-converter for windows apps | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | at work i have to use windows | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | at home, mostly linux. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i have some things that still require windows tho | 12:54 |
| ryannathans | first off i want to have a look around the ui files, do you know where these are stored | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few of those, and i have not a clue where they're stored. | 12:56 |
| ryannathans | this shall be fun ahaha | 12:56 |
| rpierce99 | ryannathans: have you looked at the source for any android apps? | 12:57 |
| ryannathans | no | 12:57 |
| rpierce99 | might give you a place to start when looking for things | 12:57 |
| ryannathans | not yet anyway | 12:57 |
| ryannathans | what do you think i should look at first | 12:57 |
| rpierce99 | no idea, i don't just randomly poke through code, i find out what I want to do, and then i figure out how to do it | 12:58 |
| ryannathans | fair enough, i want to eventually change alot of the ui, mainly for performance and see how much boost i can get | 12:58 |
| rpierce99 | maybe you should try to find the source of a launcher then | 12:59 |
| ryannathans | but i have no clue where to start | 12:59 |
| ryannathans | hmm | 12:59 |
| rpierce99 | but you really don't need to do that in the xdandroid code, launchers are apks like any other market app | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | i think boost is going to come from kernel | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | not system image | 13:00 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: if you're feeling brave, I've just added netloc parsing | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps some from the system image | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | but i doubt much | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, christ man | 13:00 |
| hyc | not uploaded yet | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | you're a maniac. | 13:00 |
| hyc | ;) | 13:01 |
| hyc | git repo is pushed now | 13:01 |
| ryannathans | apks are compiled right? | 13:02 |
| rpierce99 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_Android_applications | 13:02 |
| ryannathans | ily. | 13:02 |
| odz | =o | 13:03 |
| ryannathans | im not very good at c, yet. android is the first i have looked at. everything i have looked at before has been web related | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | lots of android userland is in java | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | but not javascript | 13:04 |
| ryannathans | web is my area coding mysql and php/htmlx | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | web dev != actual dev :P | 13:04 |
| ryannathans | rofl | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | no offense. | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | just a vastly different world. | 13:05 |
| hyc | post updated | 13:05 |
| ryannathans | i know :) im picking up c and maybe java | 13:05 |
| ryannathans | might help one day | 13:05 |
| ryannathans | i think i will have a look tomorrow. too tired now xD | 13:07 |
| ryannathans | arrrghhh: what languages do you know? | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't say i know any programming language fluently | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not much of a programmer anymore. | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | back in the day i used to work with many forms of basic, c++, java... | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i've also done html | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | shell scripting | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | autohotkey | 13:08 |
| ryannathans | ahh i see | 13:08 |
| ryannathans | are you a tester here? | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | that's mah role | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | tester | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | bug wrangler | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | triage my man, triage :D | 13:10 |
| ryannathans | i wonder if there are any ways i could help out in my area. | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | wiki probably needs some lovin | 13:11 |
| ryannathans | definately | 13:11 |
| ryannathans | fairly basic though :P not very much coding at all | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | nope. | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | stine could use some help in userland methinks | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | but that's not exactly easy to jump into without prior experience. | 13:12 |
| ryannathans | userland for wiki? | 13:13 |
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| ryannathans | what does this stine person do? | 13:13 |
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| arrrghhh | userland for android | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | what you pulled | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | the system image | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | stine does basically everything but the kernel | 13:14 |
| ryannathans | what is userland all done in? | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | mostly java | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | some C | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK | 13:15 |
| stinebd | mostly narcotics | 13:15 |
| ryannathans | sounds great | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | there's the man the myth the legend himself | 13:15 |
| ryannathans | ohai :) | 13:16 |
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| ryannathans | im still learning the ropes round here | 13:16 |
| ryannathans | but not quite sure where i fit in, yet | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure i don't fit in | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, do you fit in? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | damn conformist. | 13:17 |
| stinebd | we still have that bug tracker right? | 13:17 |
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| arrrghhh | something like that | 13:18 |
| stinebd | i should take a look at what's happening on there | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | bugs | 13:18 |
| ryannathans | stine, any idea where i could start lending a hand? eventually i guess i will start to edit the wiki a damn | 13:19 |
| ryannathans | lot more if my changes get accepted earlier | 13:19 |
| ryannathans | :P | 13:19 |
| stinebd | ryannathans: what you do is up to you. it won't help you to have me telling you things to do, so just check out our forum threads, mailing lists, bug tracker, wiki etc and see if there's anything that needs doing that you can do and would be willing to do | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | gps | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | fix XTRA | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 13:20 |
| ryannathans | rofl | 13:20 |
| rpierce99 | yeah thats probably over the head of a self-described web dev arrrghhh | 13:20 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: have you tried mr. dodd's patch? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i know | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | hence the smiley | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | mr dodd's? | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | did i miss something on the bugtracker? | 13:21 |
| stinebd | mailing list | 13:21 |
| ryannathans | mailing list?! where is this | 13:21 |
| stinebd | entropy314159 or whatever | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea i've tried the binary | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | forgot his real name sorry :P | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | binary .so works great. | 13:21 |
| stinebd | ryannathans: the wiki front page has a list of places where we collaborate | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | does exactly what it's billed to do. | 13:21 |
| stinebd | ok i'd like to merge it into froyo then | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | you should | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | it's awesome. | 13:22 |
| stinebd | also have we got bugs for the new dialer yet? | 13:22 |
| ryannathans | i will check it all out in about 8 hours after i get some sleep. already written some guides and stuff and have them up on forum if you havnt already seen :) | 13:22 |
| stinebd | i know there was one about keyguard interfering with it or some crap | 13:22 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: i know he was a bit concerned that the logging level might be a bit excessive, so factor that in i suppose | 13:22 |
| ryannathans | will any of you guys be on in about 8 hours? | 13:23 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: that doesn't matter, users don't care about excessive logging | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, you're in another part of the world :P | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | maybe tho | 13:23 |
| rpierce99 | if it's to the point that it slows them down it does, but i didn't notice that much | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | someone perhaps. | 13:23 |
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| stinebd | it would take a LOT of logging to slow things down | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea i didn't notice slowdown from the excessive logging. | 13:23 |
| ryannathans | good old isolated western australia... :P | 13:24 |
| stinebd | i had the sensors driver printing to logcat on every read (every 10ms) and it still ran normally | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | works great, i don't get an actual lock - gps icon doesn't stop blinking - until i actually have a somewhat valid lock. | 13:24 |
| ryannathans | night guys | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | nn | 13:24 |
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| odz | LOL | 13:39 |
| odz | "hi, guys. getting a new build ready for all of you (CyanogenMod 7). looks great." -taid8 | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | suspicious | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | surprise! he's a thief. | 13:40 |
| stinebd | i thought he was banned | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | he is | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | he's posting crap from twitter | 13:45 |
| emwe | what was the ban reason btw? posting warez? missing credits? | 13:46 |
| stinebd | warez | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | warez mainly | 13:46 |
| stinebd | tapatalk pro and some other crap | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | not respecting GPL | 13:46 |
| rpierce99 | and the xda permaban was because he made new accounts to skirt the ban | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | being an overall douche | 13:46 |
| rpierce99 | multiple times | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | puppies | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 13:47 |
| stinebd | permaban? | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | not sure about ppcg | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | he only created puppies on xda-devs from what i can tell | 13:47 |
| stinebd | he was banned from ppcg as well? | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 13:47 |
| stinebd | good lord | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | same reasons | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | food time, bbl | 13:47 |
| odz | he says the ppcg ban is only 1 month so we shall see | 13:48 |
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| stinebd | hmm, a coup of the canadian government. all these crazy third world countries keep ousting their dictators. | 14:36 |
| hyc | damn, I wish we could do that here in the US | 14:39 |
| hyc | "A government that breaks the rules and conceals facts from the Canadian people does not deserve to remain in office," Ignatieff told the House of Commons, | 14:39 |
| stinebd | i am suddenly an expert on canadian politics | 14:49 |
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| stinebd | oh god tiad8 killed twitter | 15:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, wat | 15:14 |
| stinebd | it was failwhaling | 15:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | Btw, stinebd if you see any suspicious accounts looking like it might be tiad8 pm me | 15:15 |
| stinebd | most likely due to tiad8's announcement of impending cm7 release | 15:15 |
| stinebd | i don't spend much time on the forums | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | k | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | Anyways, poor idiot | 15:15 |
| stinebd | there is this nice new fellow named 8dait doing some great work though | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | Was banned 1 month, then made puppies. Now he's permed | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | Really? o_O | 15:16 |
| stinebd | kidding | 15:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'd lol | 15:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've seen stuff like it | 15:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I see a lot of puppies with only an E exchanged with 3..... | 15:16 |
| stinebd | would i be banned if i opened that account on april 1st and started posting like him? | 15:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | That account would be banned, but not you. | 15:17 |
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| hyc | lol | 15:40 |
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| Komeko | anyone available for helping? | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | shoot | 15:44 |
| Komeko | trying to root my htc inspire. just got it like half an hour ago | 15:44 |
| stinebd | check it out, a taito station arcade a couple blocks from where i'm staying. and it's open from 10am to 25 oclock http://www.rox.co.jp/shop/detail.html?shp_id=1084 | 15:44 |
| Komeko | when i go to command prompt, it keeps saying not found | 15:44 |
| Komeko | it worked the first time, but i wasnt in debugging mode | 15:44 |
| stinebd | this project is not for native android phones | 15:45 |
| stinebd | we don't do rooting | 15:45 |
| Komeko | so no one can help me? | 15:45 |
| stinebd | not here | 15:45 |
| Komeko | k "/ | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | Komeko, sorry man | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | we port Android to WinMo phones | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | we don't do stuff with native android devices ;) | 15:46 |
| Komeko | not even a man lol. but ty | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | sorry lady | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 15:47 |
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| stinebd | silly arrrghhh | 15:52 |
| stinebd | couldn't tell by the name? | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should've assumed? | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | i just assume everyone on the internet has a penis | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | whether they say they do or not. | 15:53 |
| stinebd | i was convinced you're a woman | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:54 |
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| arrrghhh | what i do in my free time... | 16:02 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: i can't reproduce that dialer issue | 16:23 |
| stinebd | with the lock screen | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | i can't either. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | mankinkeo is just insane methinks | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | er whatever his name is | 16:24 |
| stinebd | your account could not be validated! please contact customer services! | 16:24 |
| stinebd | also there was an issue with ginger keyboard? | 16:26 |
| stinebd | something about ip address or number fields | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:27 |
| stinebd | again working for me | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess some schmo on a diam was having issues | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | can you test on your RAPH? | 16:28 |
| stinebd | oh ok vga | 16:28 |
| Entropy512 | oh stinebd: So far, that in-call touch UI seems to work well on Froyo | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'd assume it would happen on raph. | 16:28 |
| Entropy512 | been using it for a few days with no problems | 16:28 |
| stinebd | good thanks | 16:28 |
| Entropy512 | arrrghhh: I'm replying to that guy that seems to have an AUO panel - how do you figure out your panel type? | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | in wistilt2's kernel | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | in the dmesg | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | there's a "Panel Type" output | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | grep for panel type | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | 13=auo | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | 14=eid | 16:29 |
| Entropy512 | ok | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | 15=whateverthefuck rhod300 is. | 16:29 |
| Entropy512 | i'm just going to copypasta that into my reply. :P | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps leave the rhod300 part out :P | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | although evidently rhod300 does show up as 15 | 16:30 |
| Entropy512 | I did | 16:31 |
| Entropy512 | :P | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 16:31 |
| Entropy512 | copypastaed before you said that part | 16:31 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | teehee | 16:31 |
| stinebd | creating a new data store! | 16:32 |
| stinebd | my god glow hockey is slow on rhod | 16:32 |
| Entropy512 | so is Parallel Kingdom | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | so is Angry Birds | 16:34 |
| * arrrghhh runs | 16:34 | |
| rpierce99 | angry birds rio is playable | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | but it's slow | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't played rio | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | or... wait | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | any of them. | 16:35 |
| rpierce99 | angry birds and seasons were slow to a crawl, like 1fps at times, rio is much smoother | 16:36 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: did that diamond schmo post a picture with his keyboard issue? | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | i think he did... | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | let me see | 16:41 |
| stinebd | because, aside from it causing a gradient at the bottom of the text field in portrait, it still works fine and you can see what you're entering | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12042800&postcount=75 | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | that's his post | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | still looking for screens | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | no screenshots | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | that was that douchebag who said our priorities aren't right | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | so perhaps you should just never fix it. | 16:42 |
| stinebd | oh ok i see | 16:44 |
| stinebd | i should kick it into fullscreen on vga i guess | 16:45 |
| stinebd | or maybe make the keys just a little shorter | 16:45 |
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| Entropy512 | arrrghhh: do any of WisTilt2's kernel fixes potentially apply to DIAM anyway? | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i always say those kernels are RHOD only | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | use at your own peril :P | 16:55 |
| stinebd | some of his fixes have been general | 17:04 |
| stinebd | like the framebuffer crap | 17:04 |
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| stinebd | gingerbread is so nice | 17:18 |
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| stinebd | wish i could fix it | 17:18 |
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| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: you around? :) | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i saw your post buddy | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | new recovery hotness | 17:50 |
| natemcnutty | hehe, was wondering if you could test it out :P | 17:51 |
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| natemcnutty | embeded that sucker into initrd and have init extract it if it doesn't exist | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | awesome man | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | i want to test, that is i will test | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | when i get home | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | work ends in.. 8 minutes | 17:52 |
| natemcnutty | nice :) | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | (i'm not watching the clock at alll...) | 17:52 |
| natemcnutty | I still can't get data with the old RIL or new RIL with the recent commits to the kernel | 17:52 |
| natemcnutty | but that won't have anything to do with my changes | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | k | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | lots of new stuffs | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | so exciting | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | just boggles my mind that people think the project is dying. | 17:53 |
| natemcnutty | haha, no joke | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | probably thanks to tiad8's PROJECT DISCONTINUED threads.. | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just going to pump out builds in the dev section | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | push his crap off the radar :P | 17:53 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, wish we could just delete those threads | 17:55 |
| natemcnutty | waste of space in my opinion | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'll ask some mods | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling tiad8 is going to try to make a comeback | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | he spawned some puppies on xda-devs | 17:56 |
| natemcnutty | haha, I saw that | 17:57 |
| natemcnutty | thankfully, his grammar is so poor, you know who he is right off the bat | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | didn't see any on ppcg | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | lmao no joke | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | he sticks out like a sore thumb | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | that, and he kept talking about how 'tiad8 has such a beautiful mind' | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | and 'give him another change' | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | yes, change. not chance, change. | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:58 |
| natemcnutty | All you do is look for 'I have file is best performance ever' | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | hehehe | 17:59 |
| rpierce99 | or replacing the ed ending on a word with it | 17:59 |
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| stinebd | son of a keyboard cock | 17:59 |
| stinebd | screw vga | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:59 |
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| arrrghhh | now you're talkin stine | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | quittin time | 18:01 |
| natemcnutty | hehe, my next experiment is going to be porting ACL's recovery to haret | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, if you're still on i'll let you know how it goes | 18:02 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 18:02 |
| natemcnutty | awesome | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | LOL why? | 18:02 |
| natemcnutty | I'll be here for another hour or so | 18:02 |
| stinebd | we have recovery in rootfs | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:02 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, gonan blow away rootfs :D | 18:02 |
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| natemcnutty | just something fun to play with stinebd | 18:02 |
| natemcnutty | to see if we can get NAND builds running on Haret | 18:03 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: i'm gonna release a new keyboard which will ensmallen the keys a little bit | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | woot | 18:31 |
| stinebd | might as well make the text a little bigger too | 18:32 |
| stinebd | anything else we have for gingerbread? | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | fix data? | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 18:35 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: dunno if you saw, but the package I uploaded does actually work with data | 18:37 |
| natemcnutty | just have to reboot once for some reason | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | there's an issue with gb data tho | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | especially bad on cdma. | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | basically after any call, data does not re-establish. | 18:38 |
| stinebd | ril's fault | 18:38 |
| stinebd | get wis to submit a patch and i'm sure it'll be fixed | 18:38 |
| rpierce99 | have we tried it with the 1.6 ril? | 18:38 |
| stinebd | the what | 18:38 |
| rpierce99 | the ril hyc threw together with the updated vogue stuffz | 18:38 |
| stinebd | no | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 18:39 |
| natemcnutty | well, whatever RIL we are using on NAND right now is way faster than the one from rootfs | 18:41 |
| natemcnutty | the one that ACL put in the GSM folder on our file repo | 18:41 |
| natemcnutty | at least for me it is | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | faster... speed tests? | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | or just feels faster :P | 18:43 |
| natemcnutty | no, like downloading multiple files from Market | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea that kills the current RIL | 18:43 |
| natemcnutty | was painfully slow on the old RIL and would take like 30 seconds for Google Maps, on this one, it was like 5 seconds | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 18:43 |
| stinebd | it's pretty clear that phh is just a bad ril programmer | 18:44 |
| phh | no | 18:44 |
| stinebd | :D | 18:44 |
| natemcnutty | haha | 18:44 |
| phh | it's just that I spent only few hours on it | 18:44 |
| natemcnutty | hey, it worked right? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | it did work | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue how it worked for CDMA | 18:44 |
| natemcnutty | that's all that matters | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | but it worked. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 18:45 |
| natemcnutty | refining is for those of us who are less talented at coding | 18:45 |
| stinebd | whoa | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i was a good programmer. or even a mediocre one | 18:45 |
| stinebd | text way too big | 18:45 |
| stinebd | haha it looks comical | 18:45 |
| stinebd | ok keyboard looks good now | 18:59 |
| stinebd | i can't release a system image with just this though | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | gps? | 19:00 |
| stinebd | uh | 19:00 |
| stinebd | patches welcome | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:00 |
| rpierce99 | just do that libgps rewrite real quick, come on | 19:00 |
| rpierce99 | lol | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512, hop to it | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 19:01 |
| stinebd | might as well do that hspa icon thing wis wanted | 19:02 |
| rpierce99 | i thought he wanted ev | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | ev and ev.a | 19:03 |
| stinebd | i'm not doing those | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | H as well i''m sure :P | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | why not? | 19:03 |
| rpierce99 | well H is just that config change right? | 19:04 |
| stinebd | because it requires a frameworks change | 19:04 |
| stinebd | and original graphics | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | aw. | 19:04 |
| stinebd | i don't see why it's such a big problem that it just says 3g | 19:04 |
| stinebd | which is what those are | 19:04 |
| rpierce99 | it's not | 19:04 |
| stinebd | i kinda feel the same about hspa too | 19:04 |
| stinebd | but at least it's just a config change | 19:04 |
| rpierce99 | i don't really care about the icon as long as I know what it means, I would be fine with CDMA being 1x/3g/H | 19:05 |
| rpierce99 | H being revA, that really isn't even necessary | 19:05 |
| stinebd | H won't show for cdma | 19:05 |
| rpierce99 | it does on hycs current ril | 19:05 |
| stinebd | unless wis hacks the ril to do it | 19:05 |
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| arrrghhh | yea it doesn't really matter | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | big picture | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | it'd just be cool | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | if it's a big deal, then fawk it. | 19:11 |
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| Entropy512 | I'm going to test that config change when I get home tonight | 19:19 |
| Entropy512 | Just compiled and rebuild it | 19:19 |
| Entropy512 | :) | 19:19 |
| stinebd | which? | 19:19 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: did you get a chance to check out the NAND build? | 19:23 |
| natemcnutty | getting ready to head home here in a few minutes | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, sorry man, been testing RIL stuff for wis.. | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | nand takes forever to get back to haret :P | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'll post up in the forum when i do | 19:25 |
| natemcnutty | haha, yeah, no problem, RIL is much more important anyway ;) | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | i'll play with it :D | 19:25 |
| natemcnutty | where are these RIL's coming from anyway? | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2... | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | his underbelly | 19:27 |
| stinebd | sssssssooooooooooo | 19:27 |
| stinebd | bug 98 | 19:27 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=98 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Gingerbread (GRX0x) Release Tracker | 19:27 |
| stinebd | nothing in there i can fix | 19:28 |
| stinebd | bye Entropy512 | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 19:29 |
| * arrrghhh is confused | 19:29 | |
| arrrghhh | that's just a placeholder bug for gb in general no? | 19:29 |
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| stinebd | that's what we call a tracker bug | 19:29 |
| stinebd | it depends on actual bugs | 19:29 |
| stinebd | there are 3 remaining bugs and i can't fix them | 19:29 |
| stinebd | tonight | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think you'd fix all 3 tonight | 19:31 |
| stinebd | i can't fix any of them tonight | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | fix 'em eventually | 19:31 |
| stinebd | i suppose i'll have to release just that hspa change and the keyboard | 19:32 |
| stinebd | and frx06 | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's cool | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | happy happy | 19:32 |
| stinebd | with the new dialer | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | did you get Entropy512's fix? | 19:32 |
| stinebd | then we can push end call = home | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | the gps 0,0 fix | 19:32 |
| stinebd | it's on the mailing list | 19:32 |
| stinebd | remember? | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | i do. | 19:32 |
| stinebd | we talked about that earlier | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't that go in userland? | 19:33 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's been tested | 19:33 |
| stinebd | by whom | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | is that the problem? | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | me | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | several others... | 19:33 |
| stinebd | you said you tested a binary | 19:33 |
| stinebd | how can we be sure it's the same as the source | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | o | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | Entropy512's word | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:33 |
| stinebd | mmmhmmm | 19:33 |
| stinebd | what else for froyo? | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | other than dialer... | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | i can't think of anything. | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | everything else is still pending | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry's stuff | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2's stuff | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | not ready... | 19:34 |
| hyc | hey | 19:34 |
| stinebd | no incomplete rils allowed | 19:34 |
| hyc | in your Settings / Mobile Networks menu | 19:35 |
| stinebd | your? | 19:35 |
| hyc | do you have a selector for Network Mode? | 19:35 |
| hyc | arrrghhh | 19:35 |
| hyc | or anyone listening | 19:35 |
| rpierce99 | no | 19:35 |
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| hyc | there should be one if you have a world phone | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have network operators | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | no network mode. | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | our builds are enabled to be worldphones? | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:36 |
| hyc | I'm looking at the source code for the Phone app | 19:36 |
| stinebd | values/config.xml: <!-- Flag indicating if the phone is a world phone --> | 19:36 |
| stinebd | values/config.xml: <bool name="world_phone">false</bool> | 19:36 |
| hyc | sounds like this ought to be set true on some of these rhodiums | 19:37 |
| rpierce99 | we would have to have the cdma rhods seperated out to use that | 19:37 |
| stinebd | thing about that is | 19:37 |
| stinebd | we can't do it conditionally | 19:37 |
| hyc | no? | 19:37 |
| hyc | bummer | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | aw | 19:37 |
| Entropy512 | stinebd: I came back briefly to check a band schedule. If you're worried about that binary not representing the source, go compile it and test it yourself! :P | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | separate builds seem to be in the project's destiny. | 19:38 |
| hyc | this isn't just a value we can set in build.prop? | 19:38 |
| Entropy512 | now heading out | 19:38 |
| stinebd | those are config.xml settings | 19:38 |
| stinebd | set at build time, not run time | 19:38 |
| hyc | how annoying... | 19:38 |
| stinebd | guess i'll roll that into a new ginger image and let gsm people test it | 19:38 |
| stinebd | i don't think it should break anything for them | 19:39 |
| stinebd | as long as they don't go messing with the settings | 19:39 |
| natemcnutty | stinebd: where is that config.xml? | 19:39 |
| hyc | for you CDMA types, it would probably alter things drastically | 19:39 |
| stinebd | natemcnutty: phone app | 19:39 |
| stinebd | the java resources | 19:40 |
| hyc | i.e., if you toggle the setting to prefer CDMA instead of GSM | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | ahh, so can't sed it during init? | 19:40 |
| stinebd | no | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | bummer | 19:40 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | is it applied from an APK? | 19:40 |
| hyc | yeah, mebbe we can do a switcheroo at boot time | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | we could have two APK's and just apply it if worldphone variant is found | 19:40 |
| stinebd | please god no | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 19:40 |
| stinebd | that's just a whole ridiculous can of worms | 19:40 |
| natemcnutty | haha | 19:40 |
| stinebd | i'll just enable it unconditionally | 19:41 |
| natemcnutty | just throwing out ideas, I'm only partially retarded, so you'll have to forgive me :) | 19:41 |
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| stinebd | we'll have to trust gsm users to not be completely and utterly moronic | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | partially | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:41 |
| hyc | heh heh | 19:42 |
| hyc | anyway, I'm sure that invoking Android's CDMA codepath will break some other things too, venture into unimplemented ril functions | 19:43 |
| hyc | but it might get mms working the way it's actually supposed to work | 19:43 |
| hyc | etc... | 19:43 |
| hyc | and that will finally explain why none of the logcats you folks have sent me look like real CDMA logcats | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | we're all running as GSM devices | 19:44 |
| hyc | uh huh. which made no sense. | 19:44 |
| hyc | here's a CDMA log http://pastebin.com/DwvMhHVY | 19:45 |
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| hyc | dunno whose it is, just found it while googling | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:45 |
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| hyc | wow, I got a hang with blinking green | 19:52 |
| hyc | and USB plugged in | 19:52 |
| hyc | adb says no device | 19:53 |
| odz | hyc: use the xdandroid kernal | 19:57 |
| hyc | why is that better? | 19:58 |
| odz | your ril is working great with the autobuild kernel | 19:58 |
| odz | for me it is | 19:58 |
| hyc | weird... | 19:58 |
| hyc | ok | 19:58 |
| odz | http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110317_184049-package.tar.bz2 | 19:59 |
| odz | ^^ | 19:59 |
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| hyc | thx, may give that a try | 20:00 |
| natemcnutty | any rhodium GSM users feel like testing a NAND build? | 20:00 |
| natemcnutty | =) | 20:00 |
| hyc | not much useful in my logfile, the last thing in it was a notification of screen turning off | 20:00 |
| hyc | natemcnutty: mmmmm. maybe? | 20:00 |
| natemcnutty | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12391086&postcount=332 | 20:01 |
| natemcnutty | has all the details | 20:01 |
| hyc | but I seem to recall that the tools to flash it are windows only | 20:01 |
| hyc | and I only have linux | 20:01 |
| natemcnutty | I followed neopeek's advice on chaning the rild stuff from sysinit.rc into build.prop, and I'm hoping that fixes it | 20:01 |
| natemcnutty | Ah, you can put the RHODIMG.NBH on the root of the sdcard | 20:01 |
| natemcnutty | then hold volume down+end key to flash it | 20:01 |
| hyc | ah, ok | 20:02 |
| natemcnutty | or rather, hold volume down while you turn it on, and it will go into bootloader, find the NBH, and flash it | 20:02 |
| hyc | and is there a nice NBH to get back to winmo? | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, whatever build you want | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | just keep an nbh on the sd card | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | and a reader handy if you can't adb :P | 20:02 |
| natemcnutty | you can extract the NBH from the EXE you use to install your favorite ROM | 20:03 |
| hyc | and do I need any particular unlocks? don't think my current phone is unlocked in any way | 20:03 |
| natemcnutty | ahh, you would | 20:03 |
| natemcnutty | HardSPL is required because you are flashing to NAND | 20:03 |
| hyc | ok, then I can't do it for now | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea you'd need hSPL | 20:03 |
| natemcnutty | no biggie, hopefully someone on XDA can give it a shot for me :) | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | you have stock ROM hyc ? | 20:03 |
| natemcnutty | seems all the GSM users hang out over there | 20:03 |
| hyc | I guess so | 20:04 |
| hyc | wm6.5 | 20:04 |
| natemcnutty | and all the CDMA users are over at ppcg | 20:04 |
| hyc | heh | 20:04 |
| natemcnutty | anyway, off work, heading home, later guys | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 20:04 |
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| stinebd | arrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 20:24 |
| stinebd | matey | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 20:28 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh | 21:11 |
| stinebd | new ginger system time | 21:11 |
| stinebd | just keyboard and hspa icon | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | woot | 21:13 |
| stinebd | oh i gotta rebuild something else for the icon | 21:14 |
| stinebd | did framework instead of SystemUI | 21:14 |
| hyc | you also do the world phone? | 21:16 |
| stinebd | oh yeah that too | 21:16 |
| hyc | cool | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | good call hyc | 21:17 |
| hyc | pretty sure that's why the phone is ignoring CDMA netloc info | 21:17 |
| hyc | because it's only looking for the GSM info right now | 21:17 |
| odz | hyc is on a roll :P | 21:17 |
| hyc | ;) | 21:18 |
| hyc | sigh, now I'm waiting for my network to change again and it's staying rock solid | 21:19 |
| hyc | makes it hard to test again :P | 21:19 |
| odz | hah your ril is running pretty good now :P | 21:20 |
| odz | did you try the kernel i linked to? | 21:20 |
| hyc | not yet | 21:21 |
| hyc | been reviewing my last couple commits to see what mistakes I made | 21:21 |
| odz | oh | 21:21 |
| hyc | and comparing to my G1 log output | 21:21 |
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| rpierce99 | hyc: do you have any evidence of the cdma netloc claim? | 21:23 |
| rpierce99 | it's ok if it's just a guess, I was just wondering if you had seen something in code | 21:24 |
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| hyc | nope, just a guess | 21:24 |
| rpierce99 | doesn't the ril just pass back lat/long, why would it be diff for cdma | 21:25 |
| stinebd | different methods used to get the info | 21:25 |
| hyc | but fairly sure that the GSM phone code is running right now, and it doesn't look at the CDMA data | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | those lat/long #'s work | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | but the math seems odd | 21:25 |
| hyc | the ril passes the data back in completely separate fields | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea, wistilt2 said he's trying to get the ril to send the cdma data to the system gsm crap | 21:26 |
| hyc | two fields for GSM, a bunch of different fields for CDMA | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | 14 | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | right? | 21:26 |
| rpierce99 | gotcha, so the current ril is sending them on the cdma fields? | 21:26 |
| hyc | yep | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry said something about that | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | matrix of 14 | 21:26 |
| hyc | and there's no way you can get the GSM code to understand the CDMA loc info | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how he is trying to cram it in there | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | probably why it's not working lol | 21:27 |
| hyc | uh huh | 21:27 |
| hyc | so first thing to do is try it again with phone setting toggled to CDMA | 21:27 |
| hyc | but looking at the logs I've found, it will probably fail right away | 21:27 |
| stinebd | yes | 21:27 |
| hyc | because the CDMA code will issue a get_device_info request | 21:28 |
| hyc | and our ril doesn't implement it yet | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | ofc, i have no clue what wistilt2 is actually doing | 21:28 |
| hyc | nobody does :P | 21:28 |
| stinebd | he's just hex editing the lexikon ril | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:28 |
| odz | lol | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | he kanged tiad8's work | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | and is hex editing that | 21:29 |
| hyc | lol | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | even better | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | supposedly a hero RIL | 21:29 |
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| arrrghhh | wow. if battery life is good, i think i'm going to stay on nand. | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | crap.. that battery bug tho | 21:52 |
| rpierce99 | and because there's no nand pm the battery supposedly isn't good | 21:53 |
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| odz | is it faster? | 21:57 |
| stinebd | no | 21:58 |
| stinebd | cdma evdo woo | 21:59 |
| stinebd | ok hyc | 22:02 |
| stinebd | you're gonna have a ball with this | 22:03 |
| hyc | uh oh.... | 22:03 |
| stinebd | E/RIL ( 1300): ERROR: requestSetPreferredNetworkType() failed | 22:03 |
| stinebd | when android is in cdma or global mode | 22:03 |
| stinebd | the jni call is D/RILJ ( 1412): [0175]> REQUEST_SET_PREFERRED_NETWORK_TYPE : 4 | 22:04 |
| hyc | ok | 22:04 |
| stinebd | i'll push this image so you can work with it | 22:04 |
| hyc | cool | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | i'm around for testing if you need me | 22:04 |
| hyc | heh, that's one of those if(isgsm) with an empty else case | 22:05 |
| stinebd | yeah | 22:05 |
| rpierce99 | :P | 22:05 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: you might want to give this image to wis then... | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | k | 22:07 |
| stinebd | this will likely make things much easier for him, eventually (after he restructures his stuff for proper cdma support) | 22:07 |
| odz | google maps found my location with hyc's ril | 22:07 |
| rpierce99 | i think trying to fit the CDMA stuff into the GSM mold has been the biggest hurdle, this might make it way easier | 22:08 |
| hyc | yeah | 22:08 |
| stinebd | yeah | 22:08 |
| hyc | sqaure pegs, round holes... | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | odz, wha? | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | no gps | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | netloc | 22:08 |
| hyc | sure, gsm netloc works | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think odz was gsm | 22:09 |
| hyc | oh | 22:09 |
| odz | im not | 22:09 |
| hyc | oh, cool ;) | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | hence the big deal | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't the userland side was mapped | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | how is it workin | 22:09 |
| hyc | even though the set network type request failed? | 22:09 |
| rpierce99 | i don't think odz is running the new userland though | 22:09 |
| stinebd | the new userland isnt up yet | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 22:10 |
| odz | no clue but it found my exect location | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | odz, explain yourself | 22:10 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:10 |
| odz | need a log? | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try it in a few | 22:10 |
| hyc | sure | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | messing with NAND right now | 22:10 |
| rpierce99 | what are you running, exactly? | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | what magic voodoo are you using | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | watch, gb | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:10 |
| odz | ok soo you guys are going to laugh at me but..... | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | FROYOXGREENV7 | 22:10 |
| odz | FRYO X GINGER | 22:11 |
| rpierce99 | i still don't get that, is it froyo or is it ginger | 22:11 |
| stinebd | it's both baby | 22:11 |
| odz | its froyo | 22:11 |
| D3tul3 | lol | 22:11 |
| D3tul3 | hm no luck w netloc on your latest hyc | 22:11 |
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| hyc | hmmm | 22:13 |
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| rpierce99 | that ginger is apparently running a userland set up for cdma netloc | 22:13 |
| rpierce99 | or odz is on crack and has gps on | 22:13 |
| hyc | either that or he had wifi enabled, and google found his wifi instead | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:13 |
| D3tul3 | :) | 22:13 |
| stinebd | poor odz, so misunderstood | 22:13 |
| odz | :( | 22:14 |
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| * rpierce99 wonders if cdma mode affects mms also | 22:16 | |
| * rpierce99 doesn't care | 22:17 | |
| hyc | that was my thought. | 22:17 |
| stinebd | muhgawd this is gonna take a lot of ril work | 22:17 |
| stinebd | good thing wis has cheap laborers | 22:17 |
| hyc | lol | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | he seems to be really damned close | 22:18 |
| stinebd | well not anymore | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | so if you have the cdma side of userland | 22:18 |
| hyc | you got a radio log stinebd? | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | lolwat | 22:18 |
| stinebd | hyc: what i pasted is as far as it gets during runtime, there's nothing else to log after that error | 22:18 |
| hyc | ok | 22:18 |
| stinebd | in cdma mode i can't even call angry sprint guy | 22:19 |
| stinebd | he's gonna wonder where i am | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | you do keep calling him | 22:19 |
| stinebd | yeah but he keeps handing me off to angry spanish sprint lady | 22:19 |
| hyc | could do a no-op success and see where it fails next | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, link to your latest ril pls? | 22:20 |
| hyc | binary or source? | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | binary | 22:20 |
| * arrrghhh is lazy | 22:20 | |
| stinebd | after i finish uploading and announcing this stuff i'm done for the weekend probably | 22:20 |
| hyc | still on that same thread | 22:20 |
| stinebd | definitely for the night at least | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | u da man | 22:20 |
| stinebd | if i start hacking on ril crap tonight i won't stop until it sends 2600 tones to ma bell somehow | 22:21 |
| stinebd | and then i'll get fired for not showing up to work | 22:21 |
| hyc | heh heh | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, your latest is from yesterday at 6am? | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12346758&postcount=1153 | 22:22 |
| hyc | wrong one | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12334841&postcount=13 | 22:23 |
| hyc | that's ril_wrapper. | 22:23 |
| hyc | now you have it | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | k | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | wait, it goes in /system/lib? | 22:25 |
| hyc | /lib/froyo | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | you should uh... mention that in the post :P | 22:26 |
| hyc | I guess :P | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | you mentioned that earlier here | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | or maybe htc-linux | 22:26 |
| rpierce99 | /system/lib is for wis's stuff | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | but i wanted to confirm, thanks :P | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | someone else said /system/lib in my testing thread too | 22:26 |
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| odz | boo false alarm :/ | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:30 |
| odz | it was cached | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | loc in maps? | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | cached from what, gps? | 22:31 |
| odz | yep | 22:32 |
| odz | i didn leave it open long enough to see it fail when i tried it again with netloc | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | i might just have to dicount anything you say now | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | mainly because you run FROYOXGINGER520983 | 22:33 |
| odz | :/ | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | so stinebd | 22:34 |
| stinebd | what'd i do wrong? | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | where's this legendary new image | 22:35 |
| stinebd | already announced | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh you put that cdma crap in the public one? | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:35 |
| stinebd | the gingerbread one, yes | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | not the worldphone stuff | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | the netloc stuff | 22:35 |
| stinebd | wut | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | 14-point array | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | or smth | 22:35 |
| stinebd | wut | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | instead of 2 | 22:35 |
| stinebd | i have no idea what you're talking about | 22:35 |
| hyc | it's all tied together | 22:36 |
| stinebd | it's all | 22:36 |
| * stinebd puts on sunglasses | 22:36 | |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:36 |
| stinebd | tiad together | 22:36 |
| hyc | you need the worldphone option to get cdma | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | no | 22:36 |
| stinebd | YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | NO | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | but wait | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | netloc doesn't work in ginger | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | even for GSM | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | no? | 22:36 |
| stinebd | it works with the gps driver installed | 22:37 |
| stinebd | unfortunately that crashes gingerbread | 22:37 |
| hyc | hmmm. I guess we need a froyo system with this | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | not a good test case :/ | 22:38 |
| rpierce99 | wait ginger or froyo/ginger :P | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | froyo/ginger | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | it's like... both. | 22:39 |
| stinebd | just turn off gps in settings | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | froyo/ginger/honey | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | get the music app from honeycomb | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, so you're telling me netloc does work in ginger for GSM? | 22:39 |
| stinebd | it should, with the gps driver present | 22:40 |
| stinebd | works for wifi at least | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | which... isn't | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | i presume? | 22:40 |
| stinebd | sure is | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | o | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 22:41 |
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| stinebd | nope nevermind | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:45 |
| stinebd | just ip-based | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | bummer | 22:45 |
| hyc | OK, I'm stumped. | 22:47 |
| hyc | no idea what AT commands to use to select CDMA/EVDO | 22:47 |
| hyc | so I think it's time to switch back to hacking on the ril wrapper | 22:47 |
| hyc | and have it sniff out the commands the lexikon ril uses | 22:48 |
| hyc | hey stinebd, have you tried the lexikon ril? | 22:48 |
| stinebd | hyc: no | 22:48 |
| hyc | might be interesting to try it and see how far it gets | 22:49 |
| stinebd | i'm getting an illegal opcode with lex's ril | 22:59 |
| hyc | ok | 23:02 |
| hyc | that sucks | 23:02 |
| hyc | so it's not an armv6 binary | 23:02 |
| hyc | never mind, I see how to set CDMA mode | 23:02 |
| stinebd | **google htc lexikon | 23:03 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: HTC Lexikon Looks to Be Next Verizon Droid: <http://phandroid.com/2010/09/20/htc-lexikon-looks-to-be-next-verizon-droid/>; YouTube - HTC Lexikon Leaked and More: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xFpZaIU6dg>; HTC Merge specs - Phone Arena: <http://www.phonearena.com/phones/HTC-Merge_id4909>; HTC MERGE FORUM - Verizon, AllTel, US Cellular: <http://htcmerge.com/>; HTC Lexikon shows up in (2 more messages) | 23:03 |
| hyc | uploading new ril | 23:07 |
| rpierce99 | guess i'll pick up the system image | 23:07 |
| odz | cool :P | 23:08 |
| hyc | ok its up | 23:08 |
| rpierce99 | it's gonna be a while, i've got 9 minutes left for FRX06 | 23:10 |
| stinebd | frx06 doesn't have the world phone stuff | 23:10 |
| hyc | FRX06? | 23:10 |
| rpierce99 | oh | 23:10 |
| rpierce99 | well n/m then | 23:10 |
| rpierce99 | and hyc your ril won't do anything without the world phone options right? | 23:13 |
| hyc | it will just run in gsm mode like usual | 23:13 |
| rpierce99 | right but your most recent changes are to support cdma | 23:13 |
| hyc | yes, and? | 23:14 |
| rpierce99 | just figuring out if i should download the ril if I'm not running worldphone | 23:14 |
| hyc | if you're just on gsm, no huge reason | 23:14 |
| hyc | tho I've done some tweaks for other stuff too | 23:15 |
| rpierce99 | no i'm cdma | 23:15 |
| hyc | then you might want it anyway | 23:15 |
| hyc | so that you can tell android you're cdma :P | 23:15 |
| rpierce99 | even without the userland changes? | 23:15 |
| hyc | there are no other userland changes | 23:15 |
| hyc | android has full support for cdma | 23:15 |
| hyc | it just doesn't use it right now because everything says gsm | 23:16 |
| rpierce99 | but i can't turn on cdma mode on my userland | 23:16 |
| rpierce99 | i'm so confused | 23:16 |
| hyc | you don't have any option to turn on cdma mode | 23:16 |
| stinebd | you might be able to in *#*#4636#*#* | 23:16 |
| hyc | hmmmmm | 23:16 |
| hyc | will look | 23:16 |
| stinebd | the options in settings with world phone were very similar to what's available in there | 23:17 |
| hyc | you're right | 23:17 |
| hyc | the menu is there | 23:17 |
| hyc | so rpierce99, just grab the ril and try it with your current system | 23:18 |
| rpierce99 | do i need to open INFO and set something there, that never worked for me before | 23:19 |
| hyc | but go into the info menu and select CDMA | 23:19 |
| hyc | ro.telephony.default_network | 23:25 |
| hyc | gsm.current.phone-type | 23:27 |
| hyc | so there are properties you can set to control the phone type | 23:27 |
| rpierce99 | ok so in info i have a lot of cdma related modes | 23:31 |
| rpierce99 | it defaulted to evdo only | 23:31 |
| hyc | yeah ok | 23:32 |
| hyc | I think maybe that's not what we need after all | 23:32 |
| hyc | still looking for the properties | 23:32 |
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| hyc | ok. | 23:37 |
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| hyc | on the phone | 23:37 |
| hyc | getprop gsm.current.phone-type | 23:38 |
| hyc | it probably says 1 | 23:38 |
| hyc | change it to 2 | 23:38 |
| hyc | setprop gsm.current.phone-type 2 | 23:38 |
| hyc | then reboot | 23:38 |
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| rpierce99 | it didn't persist, after a reboot the value is 1 again | 23:44 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 23:44 |
| rpierce99 | i did a getprop after my setprop to make sure the value took, and it did | 23:44 |
| hyc | ok | 23:45 |
| hyc | maybe just try to set it, and then kill the phone app | 23:45 |
| hyc | com.android.phone process | 23:45 |
| hyc | does setprop ro.telephony.default_network 2 persist? | 23:47 |
| rpierce99 | it did not like that, reboot to winmo | 23:47 |
| hyc | oops | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, so in testing your RIL | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | i still get the 30s sleep | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | and data broke after the call | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | although immediately after the call, sleep was quick | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | very odd. | 23:48 |
| hyc | 30s sleep does not exist in my code | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | every sleep after that -> 30s | 23:48 |
| hyc | you sure you're using the ril? | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | i thought odz said it was fixed on your ril | 23:49 |
| hyc | logcat -b radio from startup will show the version | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 23:49 |
| hyc | mine says 1.6 [xda] | 23:49 |
| hyc | the default one says 0.8 | 23:49 |
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| arrrghhh | crap | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | i think it cycled | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see either of those in thar | 23:50 |
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| millkiller | excuse me , | 23:51 |
| hyc | I/RILC ( 1268): RIL Daemon version: HTC Vogue Community RIL 1.6.0 [xda] | 23:51 |
| hyc | it gets logged when rild starts | 23:51 |
| rpierce99 | RIL Daemon version is the prefix on the line | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea i'm rebooting | 23:51 |
| millkiller | when will the next version be released | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | millkiller, system image was tonight | 23:52 |
| millkiller | wawa | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | minor update tho | 23:52 |
| millkiller | tonight?? | 23:52 |
| millkiller | inceadiable | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | like i said minor update tho | 23:53 |
| millkiller | i found that diamond will sleep sometimes,never wake up again | 23:54 |
| millkiller | is this bug fixed? | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i still don't see it | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'm still at bootani | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | would it not come up yet? i mean i have output in my logcat -b radio | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | I/RILC ( 1393): RIL Daemon version: HTC Vogue Community RIL 1.6.0 [xda] | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | there it be | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i expected it @ the top :P | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | so yes, to answer your question i am running your RIL | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | was/am | 23:56 |
| hyc | ok | 23:56 |
| millkiller | occasionally，， | 23:57 |
| rpierce99 | k it did not like killing the phone app, hard locked this time, so I'm going to set those 2 props in build.prop | 23:57 |
| hyc | ok, worth a try | 23:57 |
| rpierce99 | what is the 2 value for default_network? the build.prop says 0 is wcdma preferred | 23:59 |
| millkiller | its a hard work to do the system.. just a few ones on it , feel tired?? | 23:59 |
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