Friday, 2011-03-18

arrrghhh34-year-old script kiddie00:00
arrrghhhthat types in all caps00:00
Tandyman100sad00:00
arrrghhhyea00:00
arrrghhhevidently i scared him away00:00
arrrghhhagain00:00
arrrghhhand he *tried* to make a gigantic deal out of it00:00
arrrghhhforunately... i know some mods.00:00
arrrghhhhence the reason i know he got banned on xda :P00:00
Tandyman100Just like the Terminator, he shall return. Or perhaps he's more likened to a Justin Beiber boomerang.00:01
Tandyman100Immensly annoying, and you can't just get rid of it.00:01
stinebdi'm thoroughly embarrassed that he's within 40 miles of my location00:01
arrrghhhlol00:01
arrrghhhhazeltown or some shite00:01
stinebdton00:01
stinebdhazleton00:01
arrrghhhclose enough00:04
arrrghhhyou should go hang out with him00:04
arrrghhhlearn how he makes SUCH AMAZING FAST BUILDS00:04
stinebdwe could00:04
* stinebd puts on sunglasses00:04
stinebdKANG OUT00:04
stinebdyeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh00:04
Tandyman100lol00:04
arrrghhhYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA00:04
arrrghhhlmao00:04
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arrrghhhstinebd, that does beg an interesting question00:08
arrrghhhwould that ril wrapped work better for gsm folk?00:08
arrrghhhril blob00:08
arrrghhhwhatever00:08
arrrghhhwhatever voodoo phh cooked up00:08
stinebdmaybe00:09
Tandyman100o/` magic people, voodoo people o/`00:09
Tandyman100</sountrack from the movie 'Hackers'>00:10
arrrghhhlol00:10
arrrghhhstinebd, that's awesome.00:10
stinebd?00:10
arrrghhho rnothing00:10
arrrghhho nothing00:10
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stinebdgod damn, why is intellinuxwireless.org always down00:52
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stinebdthere's been a lot of talk in the media about fukushima daiichi reactors and all this crap01:08
stinebdbut nobody has suggested that they just bulldoze the whole damn things into the ocean01:08
stinebdboom, infinite cooling water01:09
stinebdjust don't eat the fish01:09
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ndnohey, i noticed a new kernel was released today; does anyone know where i can find the changelog for the latest release; i went to the glemson autobuild site but couldn't find any01:15
rpierce99hover over the build number01:15
ndnodoh!!!01:15
ndnothanks!01:15
rpierce99it's rather unintuitive if you ask me01:16
rpierce99but no one asked me01:16
ndnoi know, i thought i was going to be grilled for not knowing ... ;)01:16
stinebdarrrghhh left so you're fine01:16
rpierce99damnit stinebd  you beat me to the punch01:16
ndnosee he's still active on the ppcgeeks forum01:17
rpierce99he left the room 2 seconds before you joined01:17
rpierce99roughly01:17
stinebdhe saw you coming01:17
ndnohey, i have a quick question that you can help answer; is there any advantage to creating an EXT2 partition on the SD card and mounting that for data (/data) as opposed to using a loop device mount (data.img) as it is done now?01:19
ndnoi was able to create a dual partitions and am running it now... works great01:20
rpierce99i think from an individual user standpoint it's fine, but i think putting a build together and trying to explain it to noobs is dumb, the img file is way easier to get going with. Only reason I'd consider it is to make changing files easier01:21
ndnoyeah, there's no way a regular user would understand, letter alone install ubuntu or some other linux distro to be able to create the partitions01:22
ndnojust thought i ask; like if there was a speed improvement or more corruptions, etc01:23
rpierce99i'm no expert by any stretch but i would think a loop mount wouldn't be any noticeable difference in speed from a partition01:23
ndnook, cool... i must be imagining but i thought with the EXT2 partition, i was booting up faster01:24
rpierce99are you on WisTilt2s test kernel? that boots super fast01:24
ndnoyeah, i'm on the 3/11 one01:25
ndnoyeah, he removes all the dmesg logs except for some important one01:25
ndnocool... thanks for the insight, gonna play around with it more01:26
ndnogood night...01:26
rpierce99don't know if i'd say i provided insight so much as speculation01:26
rpierce99but good night01:26
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zeroxhello07:46
zerox:D07:46
zeroxany dev's about?07:47
zeroxstinebd you here?07:50
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zeroxanyone around, need some advise on a rom i'm porting if possible...08:48
xdandroidNew XDAndroid Releases bug 116 filed...08:54
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=116 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Video recording anomaly08:54
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qtarohi, i searched everywhere but couldn't find the exact answer. anyone has a startup.txt that  1)works for Sprint TP2 2)Overclocked? I installed the latest FX05, camera works, but it's very slow and app keep crashing.  It was fairly fast with my phone using the build back in Oct 2010.11:59
qtaroSo I suspect it's my old startup.txt.12:00
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rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196212:04
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Tandyman100ARgh, phone. There's 10 satellites, now c'mon GPS.12:08
GlemSomFor some odd reason, googlecode authentication failes 15 out of 17 tries.. So, uploading new kernels is rather broken atm... I sure hope google will have this fixed soon! :/12:14
Tandyman100:/12:19
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R^7Zquick! submit a bugtracker for that stat! :p12:39
R^7ZI noticed the file global.sh uploaded to google code12:41
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GlemSomjust a testfile.. nothing useful there...12:42
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R^7Zgotcha ;) :p12:42
GlemSomwas easier to test with, then uploading iamges all the time12:43
R^7Zjust now downloaded the kernel package from the 17th12:43
GlemSomSo, out of 100 tries, 3 times it worked... I wonder what google have done to the authentication of googlecode... :/12:43
R^7Zdns of google authentication service??? :s12:44
GlemSomDunno.. I simply get a 403 back... And have to resubmit :/12:44
GlemSomand 3 times out of 100 it works... :/12:44
GlemSomgo figure... :(12:44
R^7Zwell poo on google! :D :p12:46
GlemSomexactly! :P12:46
GlemSomKinda the downside of depending on 3rd party solutions...12:46
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R^7Zmeh... we should all go for certification and just branch out like moto did to their wireless division... :D :p12:47
R^7Zlolz12:47
GlemSomheh wish we had the resources! :P12:47
R^7Zmoney does talk sometimes... I seen it...12:47
GlemSomWhat have the donations been used on btw.. ?12:48
R^7Zstine addressed that earlier, me thinks12:48
R^7Zserver maintenance and attempting to paying others for their contributions12:48
GlemSomif it's more then 20 minutes ago.. I cannot remember!!!12:49
R^7Z:p12:49
R^7Zbut ofc it was...12:49
R^7Zaiet im out like a light12:49
R^7Zfood time!12:49
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GlemSomI'm AFK too....12:50
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mightyhello14:16
Tandyman100Hello14:16
mightyi have a question14:16
* Tandyman100 runs14:17
Tandyman100I'm a complete noob. :P14:17
Tandyman100ask anyway, someone'll answer eventually ;)14:17
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mightycan someone explain hot to use dmesg?14:17
mightyoj14:18
mightywell im looking for a console like linux systems have14:18
rpierce99what are you trying to do with dmesg14:23
rpierce99dmesg is a command, it prints out the output from the kernel14:23
mightyi am searching for my panel type of the rhod10014:23
rpierce99dmesg | grep -i panel14:24
mightyis dmesg a app14:25
rpierce99yes14:25
mightyhas axdandroid also a console14:25
mightyaha14:25
mightythanks14:25
rpierce99you can install a terminal emulator from the market14:25
rpierce99you may already have one in the dev tools app14:25
mightyaha that was what i ive looking for14:25
mightyi though the latest build didnt have dev toold14:26
mightyok and what is panel type 14?14:44
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rpierce9914 is the good one, not the bad one, i don't remember the names14:48
mightyalready saw that14:49
mightyinteresting14:49
mightyi have 2 rhod100's14:49
mightyone is 8 months old and is panel type 1314:50
mightyone is brand new and have panel 1414:50
mightypanel type 14 is working much better with xdandroid14:50
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XethronGooie naand Tandyman10015:15
XethronHoe gaan dit vandag met U?15:15
Tandyman100Hoe gaan ons net gebruik english? Ek voel nie soos om uit 'n vertaler al die tyd: P15:21
Tandyman100Good day to you as well :P15:21
XethronWhat on earth did you just say?15:26
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neopeekhi15:26
TheDeadCPUHello.15:26
Tandyman100hi15:27
Tandyman100Xethron, I said we should use english because I don't want to dig out a translator all the time :P15:27
XethronHow are we just use english? I dont feel like out a translater all the time :P15:28
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Tandyman100How badly did Google Translate bork that?15:28
Tandyman100LOL15:28
XethronThats kinda what it said15:28
Tandyman100google... silly silly google.15:28
Xethronhehe15:28
Xethrontrue15:28
Xethronok, study time!15:29
XethronChow guys15:29
rpierce99sup neopeek, saw your CM7 news, good stuff15:29
Tandyman100chao15:29
neopeeklol i have to figure out this irc thingie15:30
neopeekrpierce9915:30
neopeekmaybe you can guide me15:30
neopeekas i am new with my rhod30015:30
rpierce99i can certainly try15:30
neopeekyaaa i just would like to know if wifi issues with my known builds were an issue on rhodium as i am encountering a wifi issue with cm7 atm but i don't know if that's normal for rhodium with my builds15:32
neopeekgot that rhod300 and it's rubbing my nerves15:32
neopeek:-)15:32
rpierce99on your builds specificaly, I can't say, I know xdandroid wifi works as long as the kernel and modules match15:33
rpierce99but people have had issues on nand15:33
rpierce99and others have had issues with some of tiad8s builds15:34
rpierce99i know that we have a couple of different chipsets we support, bcm and ti, and they require different drivers and I believe a setting somewhere15:35
neopeeknahhh i am running cm7 atm with haret... nevermind i will find hopefully a solution. just preparing first alpha and with haret it runs ok. have to nand flash it later to see if nand goes better this time. Thx anyway. Will do some more work now on cm7 byeeee15:37
rpierce99look like all rhod is BCM15:37
rpierce99blac and diam are TI15:37
neopeekyaaa i might have messed up some things. we will see what others get work once alpha is out15:38
rpierce99yeah i'm really not the person to help with that particular question15:39
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stinebdsweet jesus we had a neopeek here16:24
Tandyman100lol16:24
rpierce99he's been popping in occasionally since he got his rhod16:25
Tandyman100ah16:26
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stinebdlol someone marked a kio-imap bug on the KDE BUGTRACKER as upstream...17:03
stinebdbuddy, you're at the top of the stream there17:03
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stinebdyawn18:04
stinebdwhat a screwed up day18:04
stinebdi'm off today but i was awake until 9:30 this morning, then took a little 2 hour nap18:05
stinebdnot sure why i was awake until then18:05
stinebdi don't really remember doing anything that would require consciousness18:05
stinebdjust sitting around watching news loops mostly18:06
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arrrghhhdamn guy18:35
arrrghhhwatching news loops until 9:30am...18:36
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Tandyman100lol18:40
Tandyman100hai arrrghhh18:40
arrrghhhwhat's up18:43
Tandyman100not much.18:44
Tandyman100I think I'm less of a retard now that I installed advanced task killer ;)18:44
Tandyman100So instead of sitting there going 'wai fone so slow?' I can *do* something about it :P18:44
rpierce99FYI i use Android as my primary OS now and I don't even have a task killer installed18:45
Tandyman100What phone is this on?18:45
rpierce99tp218:45
Tandyman100Wow.18:45
Tandyman100Just using mine normally I opened up advanced task killer and had some 13 running programs.18:45
Tandyman1009 of which I didn't need/want running18:46
rpierce99i only install what i actually want to run18:46
Tandyman100I'm a bit of an appwhore :P18:48
Tandyman100I'd be moreso if xdandroid was fast enough for games :)18:48
arrrghhhi don't use any task killer either18:49
arrrghhhTandyman100, it's not the build it's the hardware18:49
arrrghhhalthough there might still be some bugs related to hardware acceleration... most have been squashed.18:49
rpierce99oh my god i cant go anywhere on the internet without seeing something about that damn friday song18:52
arrrghhhi have no clue what you're talking about, but i'm already afraid rpierce9918:52
rpierce99yeah don't look it up18:52
rpierce99it's more disgusting that 2girls1cup18:52
arrrghhhhurk18:52
arrrghhhdidn't think that was possible.18:52
rpierce99(not literally, it's a song/music video after all)18:53
arrrghhhwell that video tosh.0 wasn't able to show on tv was pretty bad.18:53
arrrghhhi don't know why, i wanted to see it.  took me a while to find it, zomg i wish i hadn't.18:53
rpierce99agreed18:53
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rpierce992girls1finger was worse too18:53
heyimbillhey can anyone tell me what the 3/17 kernel include?18:54
arrrghhhoh god18:54
arrrghhhdont' want to know18:54
arrrghhhheyimbill, there's a changelog... no?18:54
rpierce99there's a change log on glemsoms site18:54
rpierce99it's well hidden though18:54
arrrghhhmouseove?18:54
arrrghhhover18:54
arrrghhhlol18:54
rpierce99you have to hover over the build number18:54
arrrghhhthere's also a changelog on the GIT repo18:55
heyimbilllol thanks guts18:55
heyimbillguys18:55
arrrghhhwith the actual code changes ;)18:55
Tandyman100lol18:55
arrrghhhi prefer to be referred to as a gut, thanks.18:55
Tandyman100yeah thanks guts :P18:55
heyimbillappreciate it kind gentlemen lol18:55
arrrghhhnp18:55
Tandyman100I kinda figured it was the hardware and not the build to blame.18:55
heyimbillone more question do any of the autobuild kernels offer more than the test kernels for rhod?18:56
arrrghhhi assume you mean wistilt2's test kernels?18:57
heyimbillyessir18:57
arrrghhhi try to prod him into keeping up with autobuild18:57
arrrghhhso his kernels should have all of what the autobuild has to offer + his local changes.18:58
rpierce99except the bt stuff18:58
rpierce99which didn't mesh18:58
rpierce99but doesn't work anyways18:58
rpierce99same with the front rhod lights18:58
heyimbillso the lights dont work?18:58
arrrghhhyea, that's true18:58
rpierce99not even on the autobuild18:58
arrrghhhheyimbill, that kernel just dropped... yesterday18:58
rpierce99needs userland intervention18:58
arrrghhho that's right18:58
arrrghhhso the newest stuff really isn't usable yet18:59
arrrghhhjust ramping up for usability :P18:59
heyimbillok so im best to stick with wistil2 kernels for now?18:59
rpierce99yeah the only tangible thing in the last 2 autobuilds is the 10 sec kbd and the audio routing fix18:59
rpierce99which should both be in the test kernels18:59
arrrghhhyes, they are.19:00
arrrghhhamong a boatload of other changes i'm trying to prod him to commit :P19:00
heyimbillok i just want to be up to date with good battery life19:00
arrrghhhhe keeps going on tangents, and his local tree i fear is drifting a lot from autobuild - a lot more than usual.19:00
arrrghhhheyimbill, battery life is kinda a wash, but will probably be a little better on the testing kernel.19:00
arrrghhhsome of the code that provided great battery life has been committed to the autobuild.19:01
heyimbilli mean 7 hours is good to me lol19:01
rpierce99well he's going to have to resolve the clash with the bt changes before he can commit anyways19:01
heyimbilleven though that tiad guy says he can get 24 hours lol19:01
rpierce99heyimbill: what phone model19:01
heyimbillrhod21019:01
rpierce99you should be able to get 24, does it sleep?19:01
rpierce99solid green19:01
heyimbillyes but how can i get 24 hours with medium usage? lol19:02
Tandyman100I get maybe 5 hours on my raph heavy usage19:02
rpierce99no one is trying to fix usage afaik19:02
rpierce99because you can't fix how much power the screen or the wireless cards use19:02
Tandyman100yeah19:02
heyimbillthats fine i just dont get how ppl claim they are gettin 24 hours with phone usage, and setting pm sleep mode to 0,1,2,3 lol19:03
Tandyman100yeah19:03
arrrghhhuh19:03
rpierce99you and me both sir19:03
arrrghhhyou can only pick one heyimbill19:03
arrrghhhand 24hrs is with barely any usage19:03
heyimbilli know lol19:03
arrrghhhbzo got 65+hrs19:03
Tandyman100O_O19:03
arrrghhhbut that was with ALL sleep19:03
Tandyman100whaaaaa?19:03
arrrghhhas in, no usage.19:03
Tandyman100oh19:04
rpierce99Tandyman100: you won't get that because your screen doesn't turn off19:04
arrrghhhbefore we couldn't get 12+hrs with all deep sleep19:04
Tandyman100..it doesn't?19:04
arrrghhhso 65+hrs in all deep sleep works great.19:04
Tandyman100sure seems to be turning off to me:P19:04
arrrghhhTandyman100, no19:04
arrrghhhbacklight is set to 019:04
arrrghhhso it appears off19:04
arrrghhhbut it's not19:04
heyimbilli was learning linux in college and know 0,1,2,3, will override in that case and use the default setting19:04
rpierce99nope, brightness to 0 != off19:04
Tandyman100interesting19:04
arrrghhhheyimbill, good :P19:04
Tandyman100but the rhod actually turns off the screen?19:04
arrrghhhsleep_mode=1 is usually recommended.19:04
arrrghhhon wistilt2's kernel it's fixed to 1 in fact.19:05
arrrghhhTandyman100, yes19:05
Tandyman100sounds like I need a rhod.19:05
Tandyman100:P19:05
arrrghhhfull panel collapse gained us a TON of battery life.19:05
Tandyman100interesting.19:05
arrrghhhhopefully the code can be ported to raph19:05
arrrghhhbut it caused a whole ton of issues on rhod19:05
heyimbillit did gain battery life19:05
Tandyman100is there a technical reason it's not on raph?19:05
arrrghhhso we can collapse the panel19:05
arrrghhhbut now how to wake it19:05
Tandyman100rather, what makes it so difficult?19:05
arrrghhhwe've been suffering wake issues ever since that panel collapse code19:05
arrrghhhno one has ported it Tandyman10019:05
arrrghhhyou're more than welcome to19:05
arrrghhhnot many devs working on raph/diam kernels.19:05
arrrghhhor working on improving the kernel for raph/diam19:06
heyimbilldoes the diam/ralph have custom roms yet?19:06
rpierce99Tandyman100: to turn on a panel you have to do a lot of very specific things with registers and such, your phone requires different ones than ours, and no one really knows what yours requires19:06
arrrghhhheyimbill, for winmo?19:06
heyimbillno for android19:06
Tandyman100rpierce99 ok.19:06
arrrghhhheyimbill, no phone has custom ROMs yet19:06
Tandyman100http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2273154325.html19:06
arrrghhhif you mean flashing to NAND i assume19:06
arrrghhhthere's a ton of different builds of android19:07
Tandyman100what technical hurdles are there in getting it on NAND?19:07
arrrghhhand for the most part they all work on all phones19:07
heyimbillu mean from raph, topa,rhod and diamond right19:07
arrrghhhand blackstone19:07
arrrghhhTandyman100, lots19:07
heyimbilli mean like how the hd2 have custom roms19:07
arrrghhhread thru the NAND thread in the rhod section if you want to learn19:07
arrrghhhheyimbill, we don't have nand flash19:07
arrrghhhsooooo no19:07
Tandyman100ok19:07
arrrghhhwe're not anywhere near where the hd2 is19:08
heyimbilllol i know i have a hd2 but cant find screws for it after replacing lcd19:08
stinebdflash 10.2?19:08
arrrghhhheyimbill, for the most part, hd2 folk just take ROM dumps from existing Android phones, because their hardware specs are pretty similar to a lot of native android devices.19:09
heyimbilli got it off of craigslist for 50 bucks with waterdamage and bought a LCD + digi combo and lost the dam screws19:09
stinebdjust get some screws from radio shack19:09
stinebddo some drilling if you have to19:09
stinebdor tape it19:09
Tandyman100there's a lot of 1st-gen android phones with the same specs as the touch pro/219:09
arrrghhhdrilling19:09
arrrghhhlol19:09
Tandyman100lol19:10
heyimbilldo they have them cause i checked everywhere19:10
stinebdTandyman100: nope19:10
stinebdsimilar specs, but not the same19:10
Tandyman100oh19:10
heyimbillyour saying tape the gps board down and it should work?19:10
Tandyman100I guess I'm just going off of amount of RAM and processor clock speed.19:10
arrrghhhTandyman100, couple of other things to be concerned about :P19:11
stinebdthe big differences come in device initialization methods, baseband versions, firmwares, etc19:11
Tandyman100k19:11
stinebdmsm7k models are quite divergent between platforms, while qsd8k models are much less so19:11
Tandyman100ok19:11
arrrghhhshit even the RHOD is divergent19:12
arrrghhhrhod100 auo is drastically different from every other RHOD19:12
arrrghhhonly two RHOD's have 3.5mm jacks19:13
arrrghhhrhod300's are also kinda oddballs19:13
arrrghhhand for how similar the raph/rhod look on paper... they're very different.19:13
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arrrghhhstinebd, do you have to approve all edits to the wiki?19:18
arrrghhhor can i also approve.19:18
stinebdyou can approve as well19:19
rpierce99i did some work on the dumb grid19:19
arrrghhhlol19:19
arrrghhhthat grid is brilliant19:19
arrrghhh(ok, it's awful)19:19
arrrghhhrpierce99, what did you change?19:19
stinebdi think R^7Z's edit is out of our FAQ scope19:19
rpierce99made it accurate, still nowhere near complete19:20
stinebdour FAQ should be xdandroid-specific, not general android questions19:20
arrrghhhstinebd, there's an androidapps folder on native android devices?19:20
stinebdno, but the majority of the faq entry is irrelevant to that19:21
arrrghhhtrue.19:21
arrrghhhbut it seems unique to our builds19:21
arrrghhhi'll admit the post needs some tlc19:22
stinebdit should be rewritten to be about the AndroidApps directory itself19:22
arrrghhhi was going to groom it19:22
arrrghhhbut even still19:22
arrrghhhok, so i shouldn't mention to to install via ad19:22
arrrghhhadb*19:22
arrrghhhor uh... what, astro?19:22
arrrghhhi guess droid explorer works too.19:22
stinebdyeah neither of those have anything to do with our stuff19:22
arrrghhhok19:22
arrrghhhi'll just change it to talk about the AndroidApps folder.19:22
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arrrghhhstinebd, what do you think of that19:34
stinebdarrrghhh: no good19:34
stinebdneeds more 8====D19:34
arrrghhhlol19:34
stinebdto attract the ladies you know19:34
arrrghhhlmao19:35
arrrghhhnice19:35
arrrghhhwell i'll let you add that19:35
stinebdno mine's too small19:35
stinebdit'd be more like 8D19:35
arrrghhhshit19:35
stinebdthat's why i'm a geek19:35
arrrghhhwhat are you tryin to say19:36
arrrghhhinstant heart rate, who cares about that app.19:39
stinebdthis hostel/ryoukan i found is amazing19:39
stinebdthey keep sending me information about transit capacities and radiation levels19:39
stinebdnot that i really care about the radiation levels19:39
arrrghhhyea this lady was freaking out at work today19:40
arrrghhhtalking about radioactive snow19:40
arrrghhh(we got a dusting last night)19:40
stinebdalso the local supermarkets are fully stocked with rice, bread, milk, eggs and bottled water all available19:40
stinebdthe american media is a disgrace about this19:40
stinebdit's like they want to be part of a bad disaster film19:41
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stinebdbesides, i'll take some radiation sickness in exchange for short lines and empty subways19:43
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stinebdempty in japan meaning they don't have to have pushers squeeze you in19:43
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arrrghhhstinebd, have you seen the lovely complaint list from gb?20:17
arrrghhhi think most of them are bugs by now, i should verify.20:17
stinebdeh?20:17
Tandyman100where is this list at?20:17
arrrghhhthe keyboard sizing20:17
arrrghhhisn't always so great20:17
stinebdflight booked, ryoukan in process20:17
stinebdthe new keyboard is perfect, shut up20:17
arrrghhhTandyman100, 1, how many users do you need20:18
arrrghhh2, bugs.xdandroid.com20:18
arrrghhhstinebd, lmao20:18
arrrghhh1 sec, i think he posted a pic20:18
arrrghhhit was from one of your beloved raph users as well20:18
Tandyman100what do you mean how many users do I need?20:18
arrrghhhIIRC20:18
arrrghhhTandyman100, TandymanMobile20:18
arrrghhhtab complete is difficult with so many tandyman's20:19
Tandyman100well, there's my laptop, and my Touch Pro20:19
arrrghhhwhy do you have both in the room at the same time...?20:19
Tandyman100I also have a P4 laptop, 486, Phenom, etc. that I don't have turned on and idling right now.20:19
stinebdoh right the raph20:20
stinebdi forgot to test on that20:20
Tandyman100So I can quench my thirst for constant communication :P20:20
stinebdand by forgot i mean felt like not doing20:20
arrrghhhok so should i just turn on all my machines Tandyman100 and have them sign in?20:20
arrrghhhstinebd, lol20:20
arrrghhhi guess it works mostly20:20
arrrghhhbut they were entering in an IP or some such20:20
arrrghhhand the boxes were all fubar and covered evidently20:20
Tandyman100lol20:21
stinebdso?20:21
stinebddon't enter IPs20:21
arrrghhhoh and something about the in-call UI overlaying ove rthe lock screen...?20:21
arrrghhhover the20:21
Tandyman100I just leave my laptop sitting around and then monitor on my phone.20:21
stinebdyeah i don't know anything about that one20:21
Tandyman100if someone wants me for some reason, I'll get highlited and my phone will tell me20:21
arrrghhhstinebd, i hear it's fairly easily reproducible20:21
stinebdthe phone isn't even supposed to lock while on a call20:21
arrrghhhbut it involves pulling the sim and putting it in your rhod20:21
stinebdwhy?20:21
arrrghhhblargh, where is that fool's post.20:21
stinebdi can make calls without a sim20:21
arrrghhhtoo many posts20:21
stinebdi just get that angry sprint dude20:21
arrrghhhoh right20:21
arrrghhhand listen to the angry sprint man.20:22
arrrghhhlol20:22
arrrghhhdoes he get angrier?20:22
arrrghhhthat word looks funny20:22
stinebdno eventually it turns into the fbi20:22
arrrghhhlol20:22
Tandyman100angry sprint man?20:22
stinebdYou are committing federal wire fraud. You must stop this action immediately.20:22
Tandyman100lol wut20:23
arrrghhhdamnit tandyman20:23
arrrghhhpick a user20:23
arrrghhhgpFerror you too lol20:23
Tandyman100lol20:23
arrrghhhi'm not really autocompleting his name tho.20:23
arrrghhhso it doesn't bother me as much20:23
arrrghhhTandyman100, TandymanMobile20:23
Tandyman100yes?20:23
arrrghhhannoying.20:23
rpierce99just stop talking to Tandyman100 TandymanMobile also20:23
arrrghhho right20:24
Tandyman100lol, phone's buzzing like crazy20:24
arrrghhh/ignore20:24
Tandyman100..20:24
arrrghhhTandymanMobile FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU20:24
rpierce99lets see how fast we can kill his phone!20:24
arrrghhhdid it vibe extra for that?20:24
Tandyman100lol20:24
Tandyman100no20:24
arrrghhhlol20:24
Tandyman100I was thinking the same thing20:24
Tandyman100I'm spamming its nick to its pm box20:25
Tandyman100...aww, the server throttled it :(20:25
arrrghhhsign your phone off damnit!20:26
arrrghhhstinebd, there were some reports of the media folder being needed20:26
arrrghhhi don't get those20:26
arrrghhhi didn't really test 'em either20:27
arrrghhh:D20:27
stinebdthe media folder shouldn't be needed at all20:29
arrrghhhi told them that20:29
stinebdunless i screwed up the frameworks merge again20:29
arrrghhhbut their responses indicate otherwise.20:29
stinebddoes it work for you?20:29
arrrghhhi guess i should test this huh.20:29
stinebdmeh20:29
arrrghhhlol20:30
rpierce99meh, it's not like your role is "tester" or anything20:30
rpierce99oh wait20:30
arrrghhhoh wait20:30
arrrghhhit was that asshole that went on a rant in the gb thread that complained about the soft kbd being off on the ip address field20:30
* arrrghhh stabs rpierce99 in the eye with a rusty nail20:31
arrrghhhoops20:31
* rpierce99 says mount --bind and arrrghhh cries like a baby20:31
arrrghhhheh20:31
arrrghhhi fixed that20:31
arrrghhhso i'm good20:31
arrrghhhi don't know why20:31
arrrghhhbut i fucking fixed it.20:31
arrrghhh:D20:32
stinebdman bluetooth is slow20:32
stinebdeven on my nexus one20:32
rpierce99i haven't found a single use for bluetooth since I stopped driving around for a living20:32
stinebdi'm using it to send a 16MB pdf to my phone20:33
arrrghhhstinebd, here's the comment20:33
arrrghhh"Love the new dialer. Just one small bug to report, if you bring up the dialpad while on a call, the screen lock that pops up is glitched.20:33
arrrghhhIt's appearing underneath other screen elements, and not actually locking the screen in that you can still press the buttons with your face while on the call."20:33
stinebdbecause my stupid email server only allows 5MB files20:33
stinebdand i'm too lazy to change that20:33
arrrghhhweb server...?20:33
stinebdyeah i saw that report20:33
arrrghhhseems most obvious to me, but hey.20:33
stinebdthis is a laptop, not a web server20:33
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arrrghhhyou can't push it to a web server?  i have one sitting next to me, i'm spoiled i guess :P20:34
stinebdnot sure why i'm even keeping this pdf, i'm probably gonna get the same book at the airport20:34
arrrghhhofc the data issue20:37
arrrghhhthat's... an odd one20:37
arrrghhhand an annoying one20:37
arrrghhhi think i took a logcat and a -b radio and attached it to ze bug20:37
stinebdWOOOO20:39
stinebdjapan trip = official20:39
arrrghhhnice20:39
arrrghhhwhen do you leave?20:39
stinebdmay 1920:39
stinebdarrive may 20 :/20:40
stinebdnot keen on that20:40
arrrghhhheh20:40
arrrghhhhow long, 2 week?20:40
arrrghhhs20:40
stinebd1 week20:40
stinebdi'm not rich20:40
arrrghhhlol20:40
arrrghhhsure you are20:40
rpierce99but hey you'll probably arrive back home at about the same time as you left20:40
stinebdi sold my car to make this trip20:40
stinebdand when i get back i have to steal it back20:40
arrrghhhdo you know anyone there or are you just flyin solo?20:40
arrrghhhlmao20:40
stinebdtaking my sister20:40
arrrghhhnice20:40
stinebdrpierce99: funny you say that20:41
stinebdthe return trip departs japan at 4:55pm20:41
stinebdarrives in jersey at 4:50pm20:41
stinebdtime machine ftw20:41
arrrghhhgoing back in time20:41
arrrghhhsweet20:41
stinebdi'm gonna be like the dog in back to the future20:41
stinebdoh wait he went forward in time20:41
arrrghhhyou'll do that on the way out20:42
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stinebdkick ass20:43
stinebdjust call me futuredog20:43
arrrghhhsweet!  ICANN has .xxx domain names20:43
rpierce99gogo prospecting domain name squatting20:44
stinebdunfortunately there's no witty domain in the .xxx tld that has no possible sexual intonations20:45
rpierce99i suspect two letter domains will go first, se, di, and co for example20:46
stinebdcaw.xxx20:48
stinebdcue whitehouse.xxx20:48
Xethronarrr20:54
stinebdlet's start a movement for the .oid tld20:58
stinebdxdandr.oid20:58
TheDeadCPUWhat kernel version are we running? Do we has .38 ?20:59
stinebdwe has .2720:59
stinebdvery close to .3820:59
arrrghhhlmao20:59
TheDeadCPUAh20:59
arrrghhhwe're moving to .3520:59
arrrghhhslowly20:59
TheDeadCPUNice20:59
arrrghhh.27 kinda a mess in its current state20:59
stinebd.42 will be out by then21:00
TheDeadCPU.38 mostly has intel i7 and stuff, doesn't really have anything for us android people21:00
stinebdall i know is i can finally use my iwl5100 in 11n mode21:00
stinebdso screw you .3721:00
TheDeadCPU:D21:00
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Tandyman100heh, arrrghhh, looks like you got your wish21:19
Tandyman100the Raph800 went into deep sleep :P21:19
arrrghhh?21:20
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arrrghhhoh21:20
arrrghhhwhy didn't you just f-ing disconnect it21:20
Tandyman100too lazy21:20
Tandyman100:op21:20
R^7Zevening gents...21:20
stinebdoh look, it's that guy that made arrrghhh do more work21:21
R^7Zheh21:21
TheDeadCPUtehlolz21:21
Tandyman100lol21:22
R^7Ztried to warn him... but nooo... :p21:22
R^7Zi'll just stick to the threads and confusing the heck out of noobs... seems to be my specialty21:23
Tandyman100lol21:24
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arrrghhhyou are exceptionally good at that21:24
arrrghhhtwo xdandroid's?21:24
arrrghhhlol21:24
R^7Zwhy ty sir...21:24
arrrghhhi want to see them fight to the death21:24
arrrghhhR^7Z, sometimes i think you confuse yourself21:25
stinebdone of them is a killbot21:25
xdandroid_hi can any one tell me how to intall apk on xdandroid21:25
R^7Zyou might be on to something there arrrghhh21:25
TheDeadCPUlol21:25
arrrghhhxdandroid_, why my good sir i just added that to the faq21:25
arrrghhhwith the gracious assistance from R^7Z21:25
R^7Zyay21:26
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, does the faq state anything about using a program like a file manager? That would be splendid.21:26
R^7Zi get to mentally melt down now21:26
R^7Zwoop woop21:26
arrrghhhTheDeadCPU, stinebd didn't want me to include that21:26
arrrghhhnor instructions on how to use adb21:26
rpierce99but don't look at the grid because apparently my edits are sub-par :P21:26
stinebdour faq is not an android faq21:27
* TheDeadCPU installes about 80% of his apps via 'adb install app.apk'21:27
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arrrghhhTheDeadCPU, you have a native android device too21:27
TheDeadCPUstinebd, true. But it should be a faq about how to use it.21:27
stinebdno it shouldn't21:27
stinebdthere's no reason for us to rewrite the bible21:27
TheDeadCPUAnd therefor mentioning that you can click it in any file manager to install.21:27
R^7Znah... lettem figure it out or have me spam the xda forums21:28
TheDeadCPUstinebd, you're saying the bible shouldn't be rewritten again?21:28
stinebdright21:28
stinebdthere are already 40,000 different versions21:28
R^7Z^_^21:28
TheDeadCPU:D21:28
TheDeadCPUBtw stinebd ADW is FAST as hell21:28
stinebdthats nice21:29
TheDeadCPUI dunno if you've tried it on XDAndroid21:29
stinebdi use it on my nexus one21:29
TheDeadCPUBut it's way faster then stock launcher21:29
arrrghhhTheDeadCPU, i mention there are other methods21:29
arrrghhhso nyah21:29
arrrghhhNYAH21:29
arrrghhhsee21:29
TheDeadCPUDon't nya me21:29
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R^7Zso, ne1 figure out how to collaspe the panel for the raph yet?21:30
Tandyman100ADW is fast.21:30
arrrghhhR^7Z, get on it21:30
TheDeadCPUYou'll make stinebd show his weeabop side21:30
R^7Zsir! yes sir!21:30
Tandyman100Go! Launcher Pro is REALLY good though. I like the features.21:30
arrrghhhconsidering it's really not done for rhod21:30
arrrghhh...21:30
TheDeadCPUweeaboo*21:30
Tandyman100ew weeaboo :P21:30
TheDeadCPUTandyman100, Go Launcher EX is a blatant ADW EX rip-off. And therefor I don't like it21:31
stinebdxdandroid is a blatant android ripoff21:31
stinebdgot a problem with it?21:31
TheDeadCPUstinebd, nope21:31
arrrghhhlool21:31
stinebdthose are some fine double standards, sir21:31
TheDeadCPUBut ADW EX say they've developed it all themself21:31
TheDeadCPUWe don't21:31
arrrghhhsamo_, please don't PM me21:31
TheDeadCPUno wait21:31
arrrghhhor at least ask if you can PM me.21:31
TheDeadCPUGo Launcher not ADW lol21:31
arrrghhhis there no androidapps folder?21:32
arrrghhhwhere you run haret.exe from?21:32
TheDeadCPUTandyman100, don't say eww weeaboo when one of the people who can kickban you is one21:32
Tandyman100lol21:32
TheDeadCPUstinebd, I just have a problem with people kanging.21:32
stinebdwtf is a weeaboo21:32
stinebdTheDeadCPU: i kang constantly21:32
stinebdhave you seen git? none of those commits are actually mine21:32
stinebdi squeezed out two kangs after breakfast21:32
samo_sorry mate its ANDBOOT FOLDER21:32
TheDeadCPUstinebd, lol21:32
Tandyman100There's an androidapps folder/21:32
Tandyman100that's where they go?21:33
Tandyman100O_O21:33
R^7Zwhat if its a slight quandry?21:33
TheDeadCPUstinebd, you're really in a trolling mood today :D21:33
stinebdalways21:33
Tandyman100lol21:33
stinebdit's okay because i troll myself too21:33
samo_arrrghhh    I Run it from ANDBOOT FOLDER21:33
Tandyman100no, they're not there21:33
TheDeadCPUXDAndroid didn't like it when I set it to 90LCD_Density21:34
stinebdum21:34
arrrghhhsamo_, so in the andboot folder, there should be an AndroidApps folder... no?21:34
arrrghhhare you not running an XDAndroid build?21:34
samo_there is AndroidApps21:36
TheDeadCPUstinebd, it didn't want to react then lol. It was working but the screen calibration seemed very off21:36
Tandyman100Quick question, when I download apps via the Marketplace, where are the .apk files dumped?21:37
arrrghhhsamo_, so place the APK in that folder... what do you not understand about that?21:37
stinebd/data/app21:37
Tandyman100ah21:38
Tandyman100that explains why I wasn't finding it21:38
Tandyman100I was looking under /data on the SD card not the phone itself21:38
samo_arrrghhh i did  but no apps appear21:38
arrrghhhsamo_, you rebooted?21:39
samo_yeah21:39
arrrghhhnot even after long press on the screen, mapping shortcut to it?21:39
arrrghhhthru applications?21:39
arrrghhhsometimes app drawer f's up21:40
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samo_ok i'll try again ..can i ask you another last two questions ??21:40
arrrghhhno only one question21:40
arrrghhhlol jk.  what's up21:40
Tandyman100oh dear lord, there's so much stuff in /data that it just refuses to load it all.21:40
Tandyman100lol21:40
samo_^_^21:40
samo_how to reset screen position  .. i dont remember what it named21:41
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TheDeadCPUcalibration-ts21:42
samo_yes21:42
arrrghhhexcept ts-calibration21:42
samo_sorry for my english  :|21:42
arrrghhhyou'll have to use an older kernel as well21:42
Tandyman100arrrghhh, you beat me to it :P21:42
arrrghhhi have that caveat in all my build threads21:42
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, into the other super secret channel!21:42
samo_ok the last one :) ... why win i reboot to log into  WM the time be wrong21:43
arrrghhhsamo_, differences in clocks21:43
arrrghhhset winmo to pull time from the network21:43
Tandyman100difference in the way windows an dlinux handle time21:43
arrrghhhthat's a winmo issue too sorry...21:43
Tandyman100DANGIT. I need to learn to type faster21:43
Tandyman100then I can help with the things I actually KNOW the answer to :P21:44
samo_the tme @ WM chages from 2011 to 2009  etc21:44
samo_*time21:44
arrrghhhhahaha wtf21:45
arrrghhhnever heard of that21:45
samo_that what happens21:45
samo_any way to connect to internet via USB ?21:47
Tandyman100as in, foward an internet connection from your computer through USB to your phone?21:48
Tandyman100A reverse tether?21:48
samo_@ XDAndroid my pc cant  Recognize the Phone21:49
R^7Z/quit peace out!21:50
TheDeadCPUnn21:50
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samo_@ XDAndroid my pc cant  Recognize the Phone any Solutions ؟21:52
Entropy512<samo_> ok the last one :) ... why win i reboot to log into  WM the time be wrong - Linux (hence Android) stores the system time as UTC.  Winmo uses local time.21:53
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Entropy512Common problem with dual-boot Linux/Windows PCs too, some Linux distros can maintain the sysclock in local time, but I haven't seen how to do that in Android yet21:53
Tandyman100interesting21:53
Tandyman100I didn't know about that on PCs21:54
arrrghhhsamo_, look at the faq you can usb tether but only w/adb at the moment21:54
Entropy512as to pc not recognizing phone - does ADB work?  That's the only thing supported.21:54
samo_arrrghhh thanks for ur help21:54
arrrghhhnp21:54
Entropy512There is a way to get USB mass storage to sort-of work but it is not for nontechnical users - needs some advanced tweaking of the SD card21:54
Tandyman100is there a way to browse the phone using a PC over bluetooth?21:55
rpierce99you can adb over wifi, not sure if droid explorer would support that config21:55
Entropy512bluetooth support is in a major state of flux right now - it was mostly nonworking until earlier this week.  New kernels have improved BT support in the kernel, but there is still userland work to be done21:55
Entropy512oh, just as an FYI, it won't help now, but once AT&T releases a promising upgrade phone and the Tilt2 isn't my primary phone21:58
Entropy512I've got a logic analyzer and an oscilloscope here21:58
Entropy512:)21:58
Entropy512although go fig, our mega-unknowns appear to be on shared memory interfaces between arm9/arm11.  :(21:59
Entropy512ah that was meant for the other channel oops21:59
rpierce99uh oh looks like Entropy512 doesn't support a dual channel configuration22:00
Entropy512my brain doesn't.  :P22:00
rpierce99i am officially out of surfable internets22:01
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Tandyman100lol22:02
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stinebdgot a major problem here22:14
stinebdcant find remote22:14
Entropy512now THAT is a disaster22:23
Entropy512http://www.damninteresting.com/in-soviet-russia-lake-contaminates-you - one of many reasons the idiots who think that Fukushima could possibly be an INES 7 are idiots22:23
stinebdthere's a lot of nonsense in the press22:25
Entropy512yeah22:25
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stinebdi saw some article yesterday or the day before claiming the masks people are wearing are to prevent radiation exposure22:25
Tandyman100oh wow22:26
Tandyman100that's just sad, really22:26
stinebdhttp://jpquake.wikispaces.com/Journalist+Wall+of+Shame22:26
Entropy512not much other reason to wear masks - and they do protect against inhalation/ingestion of radioactive dust which is a significant hazard22:26
stinebdthey wear it during pollen season to avoid sneezing in public22:26
Entropy512ah, the pollen is that bad?22:27
stinebdno but they really hate public sneezing22:27
stinebdtheir etiquette is strange sometimes...22:28
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stinebdwell maybe it's bad compared to a lot of the US22:29
stinebdcompared to where i am it's normal or less22:29
Entropy512At this point, I have bad allergies for 1-2 weeks out of each year22:30
Entropy512I used to have MUCH worse allergies22:30
stinebdit's pretty much all summer here, off and on coinciding with dry periods22:30
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Entropy512for me it's usually early spring22:31
Entropy512i'm not that far from you (near Binghamton, NY)22:31
Entropy512er22:31
Entropy512late spring22:31
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