Thursday, 2011-03-10

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Bear_How are things going?02:50
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visof is there anyone use htc hd2 with android, how long the battery stay ?04:54
t3gu already asked this yesterday!04:57
t3g2 times I think!04:57
t3git depends on the build u are using!04:57
t3gand if u have it on nand or sd!04:57
t3gbut if u have a eu hd2 and have data 2 ext or any other sd dependent things for example, than its nearly like an sd build!04:59
t3gbut for me it lasts 2 days under normal use04:59
t3gin winmo it was normally one and a half day04:59
t3gso for me its better05:00
t3goka?05:00
t3gy05:00
t3geverything answered?05:00
t3gu around?05:02
t3gvisof: ?05:02
visoft3g, yeah thanks05:03
visoft3g, i don't get the answers last times05:03
visoft3g, i like the big size of hd2 also like android05:04
visoft3g, i will try to buy second hand one and run android on it05:04
t3gonly bcz of that a new device?05:05
t3gwhy buying a native one?05:05
visofdesire ?05:05
t3gvisof: DHD?05:05
visofyou can run windows 7 and android05:05
t3gDesire HD05:05
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t3gthe same big screen;)05:05
visofit's very expensive05:05
t3gah okay...05:05
visofi will buy a second hand htc hd205:06
t3gand u can run shr, ubuntu:)05:06
visofdo you like hd2 ?05:06
t3gyes very much!05:06
t3gbut if u buy one, I would buy an tmous05:06
visoft3g, why don't you move to use android on native one ?05:06
t3gbcz I like the developers:), don't wanna buy a new device...05:07
t3gand here I have more possibilitys...05:07
t3gies..05:07
visofah05:07
t3gand possibly I will use wp7 if its better developed05:07
visofdid you buy it as new ?05:08
t3gand the things with sd cards is more clear05:08
t3gyep05:08
t3gwith contract05:08
t3g140€ one and a half year ago05:08
t3gwherd'you live?05:09
visofEgypt05:09
visofyou?05:09
t3gso is it possible ti get at mous one?05:09
t3ggermany...05:09
t3gtmo us...05:09
t3gits got more nand...!05:09
visoftmous == t-mobile htc hd2 ?05:09
t3gyep05:09
visofit will be more expensive05:10
visofand i don't have the money yet for even htc hd205:10
visofi'm seeking another job to save the money05:10
t3gyes, but some builds are 2 big for the nand the eu one has05:10
t3gI see05:10
t3ghttp://android.hd2roms.com/05:11
t3gthis is a great compilation of all roms, from the xda forum05:11
t3gsome roms are only for tmous05:11
t3gI would buy it...05:11
t3gthan battery lasts a bit longer05:13
t3g...bcz u don't need sd...05:13
visofis t-mobile will work on any provider ?05:13
visofvodafone as example05:13
visof?05:13
t3ggood question...05:13
t3gbut I think of course...05:13
t3gI haven't tried, or haven't readanything bout it...05:14
visofi will try to save some more money and get that05:14
visofdo you think it's good as desire ?05:14
t3ggood decision05:14
t3gas desire?05:14
t3git has the same hardware05:14
t3gexcept of a bigger screen;)05:14
visofnope05:14
visofthe screen is different05:15
t3gbut the multitouch of the hd2 is not as good as newer ones...05:15
t3gthis maybe is a disadvantage, if u want a perfect  multitouch05:15
t3git "only" has line detection...05:16
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schmatzohello all08:43
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mightyhi12:52
arrrghhhmighty, hello, do you have question?12:54
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arrrghhhguess not.13:08
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mightyyes i have13:27
mightysrry13:27
mightystill there?13:28
TheDeadCPUHe's here.13:29
arrrghhhLIES13:30
arrrghhhjust ask your question...13:30
mightywell ive changed my b4home button so i can get shortly to home13:30
stinebdooh, direct flight to tokyo for the low low price of $2300 per person13:31
mightyis there a option to end call also with same button13:31
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arrrghhhmighty, might want to ask in that thread.13:32
arrrghhhit's not exactly a "committed" feature.13:32
mightyyeah but i cant post there13:32
arrrghhhregister an account?13:32
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mightybecause i have to post first on other threads but i dont have questions there13:33
mightyi already did and i want to help you with the 3/1/11 kernel13:34
hycyou can't use one button for both home and end call13:34
mightyok thanks13:34
hycbut you can make the power button act as end13:34
arrrghhhwhat do you mean!?!13:34
hycthat's in settings / accessibility13:35
arrrghhhdoes xda-devs have some crazy policy now where you can't post in the normal forums13:35
arrrghhhlol13:35
mightylol13:35
stinebdhope so13:35
arrrghhhfilter out the newbs13:35
stinebdfilter out me13:35
hycheh13:35
arrrghhhyou've got enough posts tho13:35
arrrghhhunfortunately13:35
mightyexactly13:35
stinebdthen they should raise the requirement13:35
arrrghhhlmao13:36
arrrghhh1,000 post minimum13:36
mightyNO!13:36
stinebdthat's a bit excessive13:36
stinebdin like 4 years i have barely over 100 posts13:36
arrrghhhisn't that what we're going for?13:36
arrrghhhexcess13:36
mightyim only interested in the android development section13:37
hychey, did anyone ever figure out what changes tiad8 made to get youtube hq working?13:37
arrrghhhmighty, i don't get what you're talking about.13:37
arrrghhhhyc, it doesn't work13:37
hycit did, at one time13:38
arrrghhhat least i've NEVER gotten it to work on my phone.13:38
arrrghhhbzo said it worked once with some crazy jb kernel.13:38
arrrghhhbut i tried that same kernel, never worked for me.13:38
hyci used one of his froyox builds, no problem13:38
arrrghhhit's always been busted.13:38
arrrghhhi've tried that stupid build13:38
arrrghhhstill broken.13:38
arrrghhhalong with 15,000 other things13:38
arrrghhhi tried that f-ing build JUST FOR THAT13:38
arrrghhhand it was still broken lol13:38
arrrghhhmade me kinda mad that i tried his build lol13:39
hycwell, it wasn't working with the default kernel13:39
hyci seem to recall it needed the camera kernel that he bundled13:39
arrrghhhyup13:40
arrrghhhsee what i said above ^^13:40
hyci may give it try again. none of my movie players are working on frx0513:40
arrrghhhbzo said it worked once with some crazy jb kernel.13:40
hycah right13:40
hycjb?13:41
arrrghhhguy who's doing the cam work13:41
arrrghhhviruscrazy13:41
arrrghhhjerome breauneux or some wacky french name13:41
hycoh, gotcha13:41
arrrghhhi'd be very interested to see if there was a combo that did work13:42
arrrghhhseems there's a certain resolution the phone just chokes on13:42
arrrghhhwon't scale it13:42
hyckernel stuff. that seems odd...13:42
hycwell, none of my g1 encoded mp4s play13:42
arrrghhhmeh13:42
hycso 480x320 is out.13:42
arrrghhhi'm talkin HQ youtoobs13:43
hyci also tried 800x480.13:43
hycoh13:43
arrrghhhlol the lower res doesn't work13:43
arrrghhhso you go higher?13:43
hycwell, went from scaled to native rez13:44
arrrghhhmeh13:44
hycnot knowing what is failing, whatcha gonna do...13:45
stinebdhahaha13:45
stinebdarrrghhh: you see that email?13:45
hycwonder if it's related to frame rate13:45
arrrghhhstinebd, yea, i guess i should reply to all you eeeeeeeeeeediot13:46
stinebdi like how he individually CC'd everyone on developers@13:46
arrrghhhyea13:46
arrrghhhthat was classy13:46
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mightyi dont have sod's anymore  since ive stopped gmail sync13:53
hycgmail sync is doing pushes13:54
hycit's probably all about unsolicited incming data13:55
arrrghhhSoD is almost certainly data-related.13:55
arrrghhhwhich WisTilt2 has a fix for, hopefully i get to play with it soon :D13:55
hycreally? cooooolll....13:55
mightyyeah!13:55
hyc(and i repeated those keys intentionally. unlike sometimes when the keyboard goes nuts)13:56
hyc(on my tp2 at the moment)13:56
mightymy tp2 UK OUA panel is now ready for daily use13:57
arrrghhhhyc, so i had that issue today13:57
mightyi dont care about the camera13:57
arrrghhhand i found that holding the backspace didn't wipe out everything.  as soon as i released the backspace it was fine.13:57
arrrghhhAUO13:57
mightysrry13:58
arrrghhhstupid rhod100's.13:58
mightyhehee13:58
hycheh13:58
mightyno rhod's with windows are stupid13:58
arrrghhhhyc, so i'm wondering if certain userland spaces handle the backspace being held down and others.... don't.13:58
hychmm13:59
hyci wasn't leaning on backspace at the time.13:59
arrrghhhhyc, you haven't noticed that tho?14:00
arrrghhhseparate of the repeat key issue14:00
arrrghhhif you hold down backspace, it doesn't stop when you let up on the key14:00
hycoh, lemme see...14:00
arrrghhhit keeps backspacing as if you hit backspace 1,000,000 times14:00
hycno, it just has a lag14:00
hycit does keep deleting beyond when i let go14:01
mightymine to14:01
arrrghhhindeed14:01
arrrghhhBUT14:01
arrrghhhi was adding a calendar event today14:01
arrrghhhhit that repeat letter bug14:01
hycbut aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all of my keys do that14:01
arrrghhhand i found the backspace respected me holding it down and lifting!14:01
arrrghhhthat was the *only* time that's ever happened to me.  every other text box it goes on a rampage if i hold it down.14:02
hycinteresting14:02
arrrghhhcan you try in the calendar app to see if i'm just crazy?14:02
hyci would have assumed that all textboxes use the same widget14:02
arrrghhhjust add an event and type a ton of crap in.  see if holding down backspace is better in thar.14:02
hycbut it's always possible that some wrte their own14:02
hycok14:03
mightywhat does the button on the back in android?14:04
hycyeah, that box is very responsive, no lag14:04
hycmute button14:04
arrrghhhnothing currently14:05
arrrghhhyou can remap it with F22's rootfs if i'm not mistaken.14:05
arrrghhhstinebd, i have a very interesting test case14:05
mightythnks14:06
hycit's the mute button on mine, but yeah, i'm using f22 rootfs14:06
F22button on the back doesn't work on the stock rootfs, it's assigned to a non-existent keycode. in mine it's assigned to mute.14:07
mightyme too but didnt write startup.txt14:07
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hycthat one's a default, no need to edit14:09
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stinebdarrrghhh: describe it and i'll get to it when i can14:33
stinebdhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=589 go for it arrrghhh!14:33
stinebdthe form makes you enter links to you being helpful14:33
stinebdjust link to the rhod android dev forum14:34
arrrghhhwouldn't i have to be an actual developer tho?  lol14:34
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arrrghhhi think between language and flaming, i'm out.14:34
arrrghhhstinebd, but the test case for backspace is above.  for some reason, when i enter a new event in the calendar app (the default one) it respects the backspace.14:35
arrrghhhholding it and releasing it that is.  i haven't found any other input box that does this...14:35
sixreyGood afternoon. I need help please. Have problems to create new apn´s in Rhodium500 FRX05. The system does not accept new apn´s with mcc<>319 and mnc<>995. What can i do?14:38
arrrghhhare you sure they're correct?14:38
stinebdsounds like force_cdma=114:38
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sixreyit´s a rhodium500 and force_cdma=1.14:40
stinebdin which case the mcc/mnc are hardcoded to 310/99514:40
arrrghhhwhat network sixrey14:40
arrrghhhstinebd, Oo?  lol14:40
arrrghhhi didn't know force_cdma fixes the mcc and mnc.  learn something new every day.14:40
stinebdarrrghhh: cdma doesn't use mcc/mnc so the ril just makes up its own numbers14:41
arrrghhhheh14:41
arrrghhhnice14:41
sixreyi know, but when you create a new generic apn for cdma rhodium if you change the mcc mnc parameters the system does not accept the new apn14:42
stinebdyou can't change them on cdma14:42
sixreythanks14:44
arrrghhhsixrey, yea... stinebd just said why you can't change them.14:44
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sixreySorry, my connection failed14:52
sixreyI changed apns-conf, pap-secrets, ****.md1 and nothing. The device is a RhodiumW500 (cdma-Gsm) calles PPC687514:53
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arrrghhhsixrey, if you use force_cdma=1, you will NOT be able to change those values.14:57
arrrghhhif you're on CDMA, why do these values matter to you?14:58
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stinebdteam: i'm going to reach out to jerome about sending him some of our funds as thanks for the camera work he did. opinions on how much i should send are appreciated...15:42
emwestinebd: heya. talking about sums. hm. invaluable?15:46
emwei haven't had the time to even look at his work, but alex did and he sounds very happy about the acoustic work.15:47
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stinebdi'll take that as $1515:59
stinebdboy you germans are frugal16:00
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stinebdwtf is this google...  * [new tag]         android-2.3.3_r1a -> android-2.3.3_r1a16:05
stinebdjust call it r2 for crap's sack16:06
emwestinebd: lol. i am at least. dunno what amount you thought of. $100? i dunno the size of the warchest :)16:06
stinebdwarchest is around $75016:07
emweoi!16:07
emwei have high hopes that whatever is going to jb will come back as soon as his work is integrated.16:08
stinebdi was thinking 20016:08
emwe+116:09
stinebdthe stuff he did had to be really tedious16:09
emweand time intense. dunno where he takes that time from.16:09
stinebdok and plan b in case he says he doesn't want money. which brand and year of fine french wine?16:10
arrrghhhlol16:11
emwehehe16:12
emweplan c: allow him to clone the ginger gps lib :)16:13
emweit's supposed to crash android repeatedly?16:13
stinebdyeah16:13
stinebdwell i mean it's not _supposed_ to, but it's known that it does16:13
emweok. had to delete it16:14
stinebdyeah :(16:14
stinebdbzo was going to try fixing it but it ate him for breakfast16:14
emwenah, that's fine as long as it's not the issue on my end.16:14
emwe;)16:14
emwe10:15pm already...16:15
bzobah, have had no time lately16:15
stinebdbzo: don't worry, it made me its bitch too16:15
stinebdand bluetooth finished me off16:16
bzodon't think fixing gps will be that hard actually, at least to get us to the mediocre state of the froyo gps lib16:16
stinebdfixing it will be easy16:16
stinebdfinding out how to fix it will be hard16:16
bzojust have to restructure it to the newer gps interfaces16:16
stinebdthat's hard16:17
stinebdsensors was easy16:17
bzoshouldn't be, just need a chunk of time16:18
bzonow finding that chunk of time may be hard :p16:18
emwelol. time.16:18
stinebdi did sensors in like 3 hours16:19
stinebdbased on amount of critical code involved, i'd say gps should take about 45 hours16:19
stinebdexcluding sleeping and eating16:19
stinebdand cursing16:20
bzoI don't expect it to take nearly that long16:20
bzojudging by the gps shim code16:21
stinebdi'd like to see gps turn out as nice as sensors though16:21
stinebdthe rewrite was quite elegant if i may brag so16:21
bzoyeah, I was just talking about doing the minimum to port from froyo16:22
stinebdi should have arrrghhh go through and document the code though so others can use it as a functional example16:22
emwestinebd: offtopic: gb is running with int:fast not int:jit, right?16:22
stinebdemwe: right16:22
emwek16:22
stinebdi tried it briefly with jit and saw little difference16:22
stinebdtried a couple times to do the volume crash but couldn't. who knows if it's fixed now.16:23
stinebdanyway i'd prefer not to cram the jit compiler into an unsupported arch16:24
emweyou removed the jit support patches again?16:25
stinebdno16:25
emweor what was it... armv6j stuff?16:26
stinebdarmv6j we do use16:26
emweah i am old and ignorant.16:26
stinebdxdandroid: bug 9816:26
xdandroidstinebd: Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=98 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Gingerbread (GRX0x) Release Tracker16:26
stinebdoh wow mailing list posts16:28
stinebdi was starting to think it was broken16:28
emweyou had quite an absence the last days anyway, right?16:28
stinebdjust being lazy really16:29
stinebdi've been watching things, but not doing much work16:29
stinebdkept away from the forums though16:29
emwei've become rather calm on the forum as well16:29
emwenothing to tell/help with. i feel i am out of .27 business somehow.16:30
emwestinebd: btw, is it possible to "increase" the gb keyboard even more or would that cover too much screen area on vga?16:31
stinebdemwe: ah yes, i need to file a bug about that16:31
stinebdthanks for reminding me16:31
emweah cool.16:31
stinebdwe need to increase it a bit more so that it'll go fullscreen in landscape16:31
stinebdjust a matter of trying different sizes and picking the best one16:31
stinebdthere's a new google apps package16:34
emwehmpfs! a11 seems collapsed but not powered down. everything running in slowmo and nothing wakes it16:35
emwefps2d with 4fps16:35
stinebdhah16:35
stinebd19200?16:35
emwelooks like16:35
stinebd4fps is impressive then16:36
emweperhaps it#s higer. no idea.16:36
emwecan i see clocks somewhere?16:36
stinebdcpuinfo16:36
stinebdtechnically it's bogomips though16:36
emwe<6>[  262.914855] msm_pm_collapse(): returned 116:37
emwe<7>[  521.977874] +msm_pm_enter_prep_hw cmd=116:37
emwepretty long time with no output ;916:37
emwewas woken by whatever ;)16:38
stinebdyou're doing .35 work on a rhod?16:38
emwetopa .3516:38
stinebdah16:39
emweok, pressing launcher menu button makes it collapse wtf.16:39
emweok , any interrupt it seems16:39
emwecpuinfo only teels the boot-time calculated bogomips16:40
stinebdreally?16:40
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stinebdwell there's always the sysfs cpufreq interface16:40
stinebdor if you like pretty colors and a dialog i had a static arm powertop here somewhere16:42
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emwebzo: what pll fix from .27 was it wistilt2 spoke about in his mail?17:01
bzothe wake while overclocked?17:01
bzoaside from clock-wince, that's the only other clock thing I've messed with recently17:02
emweit's freezing/dying on sleep. no overclock. vanilla acpuclock-arm11.c17:02
emwe<7>[  198.732238] +msm_pm_enter_prep_hw cmd=117:03
emwe<7>[  198.732238] -msm_pm_enter_prep_hw17:03
emwe<6>[  198.732238] msm_pm_collapse(): returned 017:03
emwe<7>[  198.751770] Enabling PLL 017:03
emwe<7>[  198.752014] PLL 0 enabled17:03
emwe<6>[  198.752258] acpuclock: Switching from ACPU rate 384000000 -> 12288000017:03
emwe<7>[  198.752777] Disabling PLL 117:03
emwe<7>[  198.753540] PLL 1 disabled17:03
emwe<7>[  198.754302] acpuclk_set_rate: ACPU speed change complete17:03
emwethat's the last thing i get.17:03
bzois acpuclock from .27 or newer in .35?17:04
emweplain .3517:04
bzothere are a number of functions that do nothing in 2717:04
bzomaybe enabled functions in 35 won't work?17:05
emwepuhpuh.17:05
bzofor one, the enable/disable pll funcs in 27 are not implemented17:05
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emweok, that's just not executing so the printk are misleading17:07
emwe#ifndef'ed17:07
arrrghhhholy bug email17:13
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arrrghhhembiggen, is that a word?17:17
arrrghhh:P17:17
stinebd**google embiggen17:17
xdandroidstinebd: Lisa the Iconoclast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Iconoclast>; embiggen - Wiktionary: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikt%3Aembiggen>; Urban Dictionary: Embiggen: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Embiggen>; Embiggen, a perfectly cromulent word: <http://kottke.org/07/06/embiggen-cromulent>; Train your Muscles, Embiggen your (1 more message)17:17
arrrghhhi don't trust this google17:18
arrrghhhsounds like a madeup word itself.17:19
emweholy crap! it's sleeping.17:19
stinebdwill it wake?17:20
emwenot really, yet :)17:20
arrrghhhlmao17:21
emwebut led turning on and off17:21
arrrghhhone thing at a time stine, one thing at a time.17:21
stinebdon and off?17:21
emweused to 10 secs ago several times.. in a 5 sec sequence17:21
emwenow apparently dead ;)17:21
stinebdbricked?17:24
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emweno, not that dead.17:35
stinebdoh well. maybe next time.17:35
stinebdwe'll get you a nice rhod when it happens17:35
stinebdbzo: you haven't had any ideas (or looked into) gingerbread bluetooth have you?17:37
emwestinebd: shouldn't that one be on the way already... ;)17:39
arrrghhhit should.  haven't gotten the tracking # yet...17:40
arrrghhhi wouldn't worry about it tho.17:40
arrrghhhit'll make its way there eventually :P17:40
emwethe raph took 5 weeks from australia ;)17:40
arrrghhhdamn17:40
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emwewe are in no hurry. lol. just a plethora of new devices passing by.17:41
arrrghhhindeed.17:41
arrrghhhi expect .35 to be up and running within the week emwe :P17:42
emwethen take alex' tree ;)17:42
emwehe's way farther with kovsky17:42
arrrghhhyea so i've heard.17:42
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bzostinebd: haven't looked at gb bt at all. But I think jb may have bt fully working now which is good incentive17:50
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NeoMatrixJRstinebd: an update for you.  I've compiled and run jb's BT capable kernel.  It's *almost* there.  BT itself works as far as I can tell (on RHOD), but no audio.  Though I just ran his latest updates today and it sounds like the headset is playing an audio stream when in a call (can hear static/white noise) but no actual phone audio.21:38
NeoMatrixJRrequires some userland updates21:41
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stinebdNeoMatrixJR: such as?21:45
stinebdi mean aside from the obvious init.rc stuff21:45
stinebdis there a thread or something where he's doing this?21:47
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arrrghhhi'd be interested in that as well NeoMatrixJR21:58
stinebdyou aren't interested in crap, i'm the one that has to do the work22:07
stinebdlazy22:07
stinebdwtf am i saying, i don't even use the phone22:07
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rpierce99stinebd: you just got called out on XDA! lol22:35
stinebd?22:36
rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12009888&postcount=15222:36
arrrghhhlol22:36
stinebdis that your definition of called out?22:36
rpierce99no i was being hyperbolic22:37
rpierce99or something22:37
stinebdoh yeah that was the patch i didn't like22:40
F22lol, ty rpierce88, saved me the effort of bringing it to stinebd's attention.22:40
F22stinebd: no, that was the patch you liked. :P22:40
F22it was the other one you didn't like.22:40
F22you didn't like the patch that would have set the power button to end calls as default.22:41
arrrghhhlol that patch would be bad.22:42
F22i'm not sure i'd call it bad, but i can see how a significant number of people may not have liked it.22:43
F22so i understand why it got rejected.22:44
arrrghhhhow could i wake the phone in a call?22:47
arrrghhhhit end call huh22:48
arrrghhhlol22:48
arrrghhhperhaps i could get used to that eventually22:48
arrrghhhbut it would be comical22:48
stinebdF22: next time git format your patches damnit22:48
arrrghhhand no one would be able to use my phone22:48
stinebdand by next time i mean the rootfs patches you're going to submit to me tomorrow22:48
arrrghhhheh22:48
F22i thought i did.22:49
stinebdmaybe bugzilla hates headers then22:49
stinebdyup22:50
F22i recall arrrghhh having to edit one of them.22:50
stinebdok it's proper if you download them22:50
stinebdstupid bugzilla22:50
stinebdno wonder it takes a cluster of blue genes to run this stuff22:50
F22ah, ok22:50
F22lol22:50
stinebdbetter push this now before arrrghhh lets me forget again22:53
F22he's such a slacker... :P22:53
arrrghhhit is all my fault after all.22:53
arrrghhh:D22:53
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F22so i guess we'll see it in FRX06 and the next ginger alpha. :P22:57
stinebdand ERX0122:57
stinebdhooray eclair22:58
F22E?22:58
F22lol22:58
arrrghhhlol22:58
F22you're going to do a special release for eclair?22:58
arrrghhhi want DRX01 as well22:58
arrrghhhmight as well get started on HRX0122:58
stinebdhoneycomb's big yeah yeah yeah22:59
F22yeah, we want to run a tablet os on our phones. :P22:59
arrrghhhice cream sounds like it'll be schweet22:59
arrrghhhheh22:59
F22all these releases sound schweet. ;)23:00
arrrghhhjust start on ice cream23:00
arrrghhhbeat google to the punch stinebd23:00
F22ice scream is supposed to be honeycomb for phones.23:00
stinebdthen what is 2.4?23:00
F222.4 is supposed to still be gingerbread.23:01
stinebd2.3 is gingerbread23:01
arrrghhhlol23:01
F221.6 and 2.0 were both eclair. *shrug*23:01
stinebduh23:02
stinebdno23:02
F22er 2.123:02
F22google has doubled up before.23:02
arrrghhhyea, 2.0 and 2.1 were eclair23:02
F22i forget whether it was engadget or bgr, but one of them had a news piece about 2.4 being an update to froyo. perhaps it's just a rumor, perhaps it's what will be.  now way of knowing for certain until google makes an announcement.23:06
F22now way=no way23:06
F22bleh, i meant an update to gingerbread.23:08
arrrghhhlol23:09
F22i'm mispeaking, or mistyping, quite a bit tonight.23:09
arrrghhhyou're drinking too much23:09
arrrghhhor not enough23:09
F22lol23:09
F22too much blood in my alcohol system... ;)23:10
F22Android 2.4’s  release has been sped up as a way to make sure that  Android 3.0 apps  built for dual-core CPU phones will also run on  single-core phones.  That’s something that’s apparently not possible with  Android 2.3.23:13
F22Apparently, the 2.4  update will also be called Gingerbread — a sign that the update may not  be significantly different from 2.3, aside from multi-core app support.23:14
F22ice cream will likely be either 3.1 or 3.5.23:16
F22Additionally Google Talk video calling will be integrated and match the  support level in the Honeycomb OS. Lastly it will incorporate the  ability to run the new dual mode apps that are designed for Honeycomb  and correctly scale them and appropriate the “fragments” accordingly.  This is not a major update as signaled by keeping the name Gingerbread,  but one that will bring support for new hardware and software being  released curre23:17
arrrghhhbridging the gap23:18
F22yup23:18
arrrghhhstopgap before ice cream in other words.23:18
F22proper support for the dual core phones coming out without holding them all up until ice cream.23:19
stinebdxdandroid: bug 9823:19
xdandroidstinebd: Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=98 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Gingerbread (GRX0x) Release Tracker23:19
F22google isn't microsoft... :P23:19
F22interesting, 4 bugs holding us up then.23:21
F22the latest numbers show microsoft's market share continuing to decline despite wp7.  not the least bit surprising. still doesn't work on anything aside from the 8250.23:23
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NeoMatrixJRstinebd, arrrghhhTP2: tp2? what happened there arrrghhh?  anyways, sorry.  Had to go before, and headed to bed now.  Userland changes for BT.  a few lines in init.<froyo/xxxxx>.rc and add a .hcd file to the system.ext2.  I have both changes if you want them tomorrow.  I can post the init lines easilly, but my webserver's down so I'll have more trouble posting the .hcd file23:46
NeoMatrixJRno post to the forums.  I'm guessing he's waiting until he has the audio changes done too.23:46
stinebdthe .hcd is probably rootfs23:47
arrrghhhTP2Neo, I'm on my tp2 :P23:47
stinebdi'm assuming the hcd is firmware23:47
NeoMatrixJRstinebd: I think you can stick the .hcd wherever you want.  the lines jb has in the init point to /system/<blah>.hcd23:53
NeoMatrixJRhcd isn't exactly firmware.  I'm not sure what it is23:53
NeoMatrixJRok, I'm gonna be killed if I'm caught on computer when I should be going to bed.  I'll be back online tomorrow.  Sorry that I've gotta run.23:54

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