| rpierce99_ | arrrghhh: does your wifi turn on properly currently? | 00:00 |
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| arrrghhh | uhm | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | don't be that guy | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. i got an error. | 00:01 |
| rpierce99_ | :P | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really use wifi. | 00:01 |
| rpierce99_ | i don't either | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | you think it's the newest kernel? | 00:01 |
| rpierce99_ | in your logcat i'm betting it references sta | 00:01 |
| rpierce99_ | E/WifiHW ( 1337): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "sta": No such file or directory | 00:01 |
| rpierce99_ | [9:55pm] rpierce99_: V/WifiStateTracker( 1337): Supplicant died unexpectedly | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 00:02 |
| rpierce99_ | i'm looking at the wifi code and "sta" is defined as WIFI_TEST_INTERFACE | 00:02 |
| rpierce99_ | so yeah, somethings wrong | 00:03 |
| rpierce99_ | not sure what though | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'd assume wistilt2 is compiling it the same | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | but he said he pushed the commits | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | just hasn't heard anything back on them yet. | 00:03 |
| rpierce99_ | i was only trying to turn it on to help stinebd troubleshoot wpa_supplicant | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | go back to autobuild | 00:04 |
| rpierce99_ | because WEP is my favorite type of encryption :) | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | nj, wep sucks. | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | setting it up on my router was painful | 00:04 |
| stinebd | wonder how the battery life is on this thing with wifi always on | 00:05 |
| rpierce99_ | i guess I'll swap back to 1253 for a bit to see what happens | 00:05 |
| rpierce99_ | 1253 does the same thing, so it's not the kernel | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | data.img | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | hrm i just get 'failed to load wifi driver' | 00:26 |
| rpierce99_ | i assume you used the full modules pack and not just zImage? | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh no | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | i dropped the modules with it | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | only when i do quick tests for wistilt do i not do the zimage | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use wifi, but i do use wifi tethering now and then heh | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | bedtime. cya guys later. | 00:33 |
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| rpierce99_ | well it wasn't my data.img | 00:41 |
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| rpierce99_ | also tried swapping out system.ext2 and rootfs.img, neither one helped, oh well, guess no wifi for me | 01:27 |
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| R^7Z | @rpierce99 Which device? I'm staring at several WiFi spots on my Fuze at the moment... Using FRX04 with the latest rootfs and kernel package from autobuild | 10:00 |
| rpierce99 | rhod400 | 10:01 |
| R^7Z | well, theres your problem... get yourself a RAPH110 | 10:01 |
| R^7Z | :p | 10:01 |
| R^7Z | lol | 10:01 |
| rpierce99 | trade? | 10:01 |
| rpierce99 | haha | 10:01 |
| R^7Z | that'd be an upgrade for me... :D | 10:02 |
| rpierce99 | to a cdma phone :) | 10:02 |
| R^7Z | blasphemy! | 10:02 |
| rpierce99 | my last phone (3-4 months ago) was a Fuze on AT&T. Sadly I didn't even know I could run android on it. | 10:03 |
| R^7Z | wow... | 10:03 |
| R^7Z | Think I've been using Android on and off for about a couple of years now | 10:04 |
| rpierce99 | the way that wpa_supplicant works is divided into RHOD and EVERYTHING ELSE, so I'm not surprised that yours works :( | 10:04 |
| R^7Z | well it's a good dedicated and hard driving device to test on... from what I hear | 10:05 |
| R^7Z | not the best, mind you... | 10:05 |
| R^7Z | but it has it's times... | 10:05 |
| rpierce99 | The frustrating part is it worked before, I've had wifi working in the past, but I don't use it often enough to know when it broke to be able to pinpoint anything. I would think that between /system, /data, rootfs, and kernel that I've covered my bases | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | I am currently having the issue where my sd card doesn't mount in android though. I don't really care, but I guess there's a possibility that it's related | 10:09 |
| R^7Z | one way would be to start off going back a month or two and keep going back till wifi works? | 10:09 |
| R^7Z | Yeah, I've stopped trying to figure out where things break (I know counter productive) and just find a way to work around the little issues encountered | 10:10 |
| R^7Z | They usually figure it out eventually... | 10:11 |
| rpierce99 | I was only trying to get wifi working to help stinebd troubleshoot the wpa_supplicant issues, so it's not a giant deal | 10:11 |
| R^7Z | i hear ya... | 10:11 |
| rpierce99 | speaking of that, if you want to pull your wpa_supplicant.conf for me with a WPA network saved in it that would solve our problem :) | 10:11 |
| R^7Z | hmmm... kinda difficult from the work PC... | 10:12 |
| R^7Z | but will keep that in mind when I'm back home | 10:12 |
| R^7Z | Perhaps someone will read this and pull it and supply for the troubled-ones to troubleshoot :p | 10:12 |
| R^7Z | <--- very little to no experience with adb | 10:13 |
| R^7Z | I have been considering reading up on it, amongst other things, just haven't found the opportune time to do this yet | 10:14 |
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| R^7Z | dangit xda isn't loading... :( | 10:18 |
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| R^7Z | wow... | 10:20 |
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| R^7Z | yay! everyones back! :p | 10:23 |
| rpierce99 | we're not back, you're back! :) | 10:23 |
| R^7Z | ha, i was thinking the same... | 10:23 |
| R^7Z | either they dropped or i did... :D | 10:23 |
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| R^7Z | @rpierce99 do you know of a way to pull that file from the terminal emulator? | 10:33 |
| rpierce99 | if you just want to view it you would: | 10:34 |
| rpierce99 | su | 10:34 |
| rpierce99 | cat /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf | 10:35 |
| R^7Z | thanks! will try that in a few... wifi is kinda iffy in the buiding i'm in but it does pickup a few... | 10:38 |
| rpierce99 | as long as there's one that's wpa or wpa2 it doesn't even matter if you can connect to it | 10:39 |
| rpierce99 | as long as it lets you save it | 10:39 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not sure if you can save it without a successful connect | 10:39 |
| R^7Z | Knowing my luck, probably not... | 10:40 |
| R^7Z | No harm in trying though, I wouldn't think... | 10:41 |
| rpierce99 | never know, might end up like me :) | 10:41 |
| R^7Z | nah... it' | 10:41 |
| R^7Z | it's a random wifi spot | 10:42 |
| R^7Z | stupid enter key | 10:42 |
| R^7Z | had to be below my pinky finger | 10:42 |
| R^7Z | I might just hold off till I connect to my wifi back home... | 10:43 |
| R^7Z | you mentioned doing "cat" to view, can you "logcat" for a log or is that something totally different? | 10:43 |
| rpierce99 | logcat cat's a specific log and keeps it rolling until you tell it to stop, cat just prints a file | 10:44 |
| R^7Z | ah... | 10:44 |
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| Diamondroid | Hello. | 11:07 |
| Diamondroid | Can someone help me> | 11:07 |
| Diamondroid | ? | 11:07 |
| rpierce99 | whats up | 11:07 |
| Diamondroid | Well , im trying to get Android 2.1 on my HTC Touch Diamond, (DIAM100). | 11:08 |
| Diamondroid | And , i'm kinda stuck.. | 11:08 |
| Diamondroid | It says : unable to find root , rebooting.. | 11:08 |
| Diamondroid | Does anyone know the solution on this? | 11:09 |
| rpierce99 | right after haret.exe? | 11:09 |
| Diamondroid | it loads, | 11:09 |
| Diamondroid | Then comes that white text. | 11:09 |
| Diamondroid | and after loading , it comes. | 11:09 |
| rpierce99 | after loading? you mean android is fully up and working? | 11:10 |
| Diamondroid | No , i haven't even come to the boot animation! | 11:10 |
| R^7Z | Probably just the scrolling text | 11:10 |
| rpierce99 | ok, flying wall of text | 11:10 |
| Diamondroid | Yeah , the usual, | 11:10 |
| rpierce99 | are you sure it's not ROOTFS that it's after, not root | 11:10 |
| Diamondroid | Hmm , let me boot it up again. | 11:11 |
| R^7Z | Bet it is... | 11:11 |
| R^7Z | Android won't boot without it | 11:11 |
| R^7Z | Check your microSD | 11:11 |
| R^7Z | for a file calle drootfs | 11:11 |
| Diamondroid | Well.. | 11:12 |
| rpierce99 | rootfs.img to be specific | 11:12 |
| Diamondroid | it says : Please append a correct ''root='' | 11:12 |
| Diamondroid | Rebooting in 7 seconds. | 11:12 |
| R^7Z | sounds like neopeek | 11:12 |
| Diamondroid | I got it from neopeek yeah. | 11:12 |
| Diamondroid | The Barebone. | 11:13 |
| rpierce99 | oh i don't know neopeeks roms | 11:13 |
| Diamondroid | Well , do you know any good roms> | 11:13 |
| Diamondroid | ? | 11:13 |
| rpierce99 | I use XDAndroid FRX04 Froyo | 11:14 |
| Diamondroid | Where can i download that? | 11:14 |
| Diamondroid | Do you have a link? | 11:14 |
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| rpierce99 | are you cdma or gsm? | 11:15 |
| Diamondroid | Ehh , i use a SIM-Card .. | 11:15 |
| Diamondroid | and i live in holland. | 11:15 |
| Diamondroid | So i think , GSM. | 11:15 |
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| rpierce99 | well i was looking for a diamond specific howto for frx04 but i can't find one | 11:18 |
| Diamondroid | Oh well,. | 11:18 |
| Diamondroid | Thanks anyway. | 11:18 |
| rpierce99 | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page | 11:18 |
| rpierce99 | oh there's a link on there for the diamond | 11:19 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 11:19 |
| Diamondroid | Thanks! | 11:22 |
| Diamondroid | I'll try that! | 11:22 |
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| R^7Z | chow time! | 11:34 |
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| stinebd | honeycomb runs surprisingly well on nook color | 16:31 |
| stinebd | especially considering it's a goldfish image | 16:31 |
| emwe | hey stinebd... mails to list are autoblocked if not-subscribed-sender i get it? | 16:33 |
| emwe | nook color? | 16:33 |
| stinebd | emwe: right | 16:33 |
| emwe | ok. i just took the wrong acc earlier | 16:33 |
| emwe | and didn't read the reply mail correctly | 16:34 |
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| stinebd | heh | 16:34 |
| emwe | nook is an ebook reader thingy? | 16:35 |
| Nautis | Nook Color is still running on SDK too isnt it. (honecomb hasnt been released yet right?) | 16:35 |
| stinebd | yeah | 16:35 |
| stinebd | Nautis: goldfish = emulator, so yes | 16:35 |
| stinebd | basically they took the emulator image, crammed some nook libs in there and hacked arm asm in to make it usable | 16:35 |
| stinebd | emwe: nook color is an ereader on steroids really. the stock software is built on top of a full android (with all the apps and stuff disabled) and after rooting it you can make it into an actual tablet pretty easily. | 16:37 |
| emwe | i see | 16:38 |
| emwe | but the neat things like gps and 3g missing i guess ;) | 16:38 |
| stinebd | i'm glad they didn't make it 3g because with the planned b&n app store, its carrier (att probably) would've demanded a subscription model | 16:38 |
| stinebd | mobile data on these "advanced" devices in the states is more of a burden (with a monthly cost) than a feature | 16:39 |
| Nautis | its only $250usd I was considering picking one up the other day. | 16:39 |
| emwe | i see | 16:39 |
| stinebd | and even with the moto xoom, you'll need to subscribe to verizon data just to activate 3g :/ | 16:39 |
| stinebd | err | 16:39 |
| stinebd | just to activate wifi rather | 16:39 |
| emwe | hotsports everywhere? | 16:40 |
| emwe | -r | 16:40 |
| stinebd | everywhere i go anyway :) | 16:40 |
| stinebd | if not, i can wifi tether on my phone | 16:40 |
| stinebd | another strange american thing. the carriers advertise phones that you can connect all your devices with, but continue to push to market devices have 3g and their own data plan anyway | 16:41 |
| stinebd | i think i figured out our TI bluetooth crash on gingerbread | 16:43 |
| stinebd | it should stop crashing if we ever figure out how to configure it properly :D | 16:44 |
| Nautis | btw.. bluetooth doesnt stay on on my tilt2. that normal? | 16:51 |
| stinebd | yes | 16:53 |
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| Ashley89 | i need help with downloading the android software to the touch pro 2 | 17:26 |
| lodtank | what is exactly your problem? | 17:27 |
| Ashley89 | i want to turn the touch pro 2 into an android device | 17:27 |
| Ashley89 | can someone help me with this process | 17:30 |
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| rpierce99 | i'm sure we can help but you need to tell us what you've done and what didn't work | 17:32 |
| Ashley89 | i downloaded the Gen Y Dualboot software and added it to the sd card also the xdandroid software but i dont know what to do after that | 17:35 |
| rpierce99 | forget about dualboot for now, at least until android is working by itself | 17:36 |
| rpierce99 | when you say "xdandroid software" what exactly did you download | 17:36 |
| Ashley89 | RhodiumXDAndroid26.01.10.rar | 17:37 |
| rpierce99 | I don't recognize that file name, where did you download it from? | 17:38 |
| Ashley89 | http://hotfile.com/dl/25896717/98aaa14/RhodiumXDAndroid26.01.10.rar.html | 17:38 |
| rpierce99 | never mind, just get package here: http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.012211.rar | 17:40 |
| rpierce99 | is your sd card empty? | 17:40 |
| Ashley89 | yes | 17:40 |
| rpierce99 | ok, once that rar file is downloaded, copy the andboot folder to your sd card | 17:42 |
| rpierce99 | then we need to download a few more files to make sure you're up to date with the latest, most stable software | 17:44 |
| rpierce99 | what carrier are you with? | 17:44 |
| Ashley89 | sprint | 17:44 |
| rpierce99 | are we close on the download? | 17:45 |
| Ashley89 | almost | 17:46 |
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| rpierce99 | download this http://www.mediafire.com/?u7i17okoxz2u96y and this http://www.mediafire.com/?pdaequm74tmoday and this http://www.mediafire.com/?yjz3zboo3o5iwob while you're waiting i guess | 17:47 |
| Ashley89 | i downloaded the rar file and i saved it to the computer but its not letting me do anything else i dont see a andboot folder | 17:52 |
| rpierce99 | you need to extract the rar | 17:53 |
| Ashley89 | how do you do that | 17:54 |
| rpierce99 | http://www.win-rar.com/download.html | 17:57 |
| Ashley89 | which version is best for a windows 7 | 17:59 |
| rpierce99 | did you read the first line? | 17:59 |
| Ashley89 | yes | 18:00 |
| rpierce99 | then you have your answer | 18:00 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: ping | 18:07 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: sup sir | 18:07 |
| stinebd | wpa_supp | 18:08 |
| rpierce99 | yessum | 18:08 |
| stinebd | got a config file for wep that i can take a peek at? | 18:08 |
| stinebd | you can remove the key | 18:08 |
| rpierce99 | no, i was never able to get my wifi to enable | 18:08 |
| stinebd | ok | 18:08 |
| Ashley89 | ok i saved the andboot file to the sd card | 18:08 |
| rpierce99 | i replaced my kernel, rootfs, system.ext2, data.img and reformatted my card | 18:08 |
| stinebd | wpa uses no auth_alg line | 18:09 |
| rpierce99 | makes sense, open/shared is really a wep setting | 18:10 |
| rpierce99 | Ashley89: great, those three other files i asked you to download, are they ready | 18:10 |
| Ashley89 | yes | 18:10 |
| rpierce99 | as in downloaded | 18:10 |
| Ashley89 | yes | 18:10 |
| rpierce99 | all three of them replace something in your andboot folder | 18:11 |
| rpierce99 | zImage-abunchofgarbage should be renamed to zImage | 18:11 |
| rpierce99 | and then overwrite the one in andboot with it | 18:11 |
| rpierce99 | delete the modules that is in your andboot folder and replace it with the one you downloaded | 18:11 |
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| rpierce99 | and replace the rootfs.img in your andboot folder with the one you downloaded | 18:11 |
| rpierce99 | so stinebd do you need anything else to be able to fix it? | 18:12 |
| rpierce99 | or is it as simple as we thought last night | 18:12 |
| Ashley89 | im not understanding | 18:13 |
| rpierce99 | well if you boot it the way you have it, it will run, but it will be kind of broken | 18:14 |
| rpierce99 | to launch it you just need to launch haret.exe from your phones file explorer | 18:14 |
| rpierce99 | but honestly this project may not be ready enough for general consumption if these directions are difficult to understand | 18:15 |
| rpierce99 | if you want to read up some more feel free to hang around http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/ and http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=589 | 18:16 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: i think i'm good now | 18:16 |
| stinebd | just gotta set up this old router for wep quick | 18:16 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i wish i had an old router to do that, I'd have to kick all 50 networked devices offline to test wep here | 18:17 |
| rpierce99 | how long does the system image take to build? | 18:17 |
| Ashley89 | ok thanx. i clicked on the haret.exe file and a bunch of white words appeared | 18:17 |
| stinebd | from scratch? | 18:17 |
| rpierce99 | Ashley89: that's normal, you should see an android logo soon | 18:18 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: you probably just build the files that have changed now, but sure, from scratch | 18:18 |
| Ashley89 | ok | 18:20 |
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| Ashley89 | how long should the white words appear | 18:25 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: up to an hour from scratch with a quad-core phenom | 18:25 |
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| rpierce99 | Ashley89: depends on how fast your SD card is, as long as it keeps moving it's all good, the first boot takes 1000x longer than any other boot | 18:26 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: Phenom, what about with a real processor? :P | 18:26 |
| stinebd | err | 18:26 |
| Ashley89 | oh ok | 18:28 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: you're gonna like what i've got | 19:04 |
| stinebd | gingerbread is faster again | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | wha'd you do now | 19:05 |
| stinebd | more surfaceflinger fun | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | didn't you say they don't support it in gb? | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | are you just backporting it | 19:05 |
| stinebd | forwardporting | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | forwardporting it | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol yea | 19:05 |
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| manekineko | F22, you around? | 21:07 |
| manekineko | you were planning on committing your rootfs changes soon I seem to recall you saying somewhere | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | for the last 5 months or so | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:08 |
| manekineko | if it wouldn't be a hard change, maybe you should change the startup.txt line before you do so | 21:09 |
| manekineko | so that instead of b4HOME=, it's be HOME= | 21:09 |
| manekineko | that would be more future proof for the future change you mentioned where someday you'd like to add in the option for home=power as well | 21:10 |
| manekineko | rather than having each button have its own flag | 21:10 |
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| arrrghhh | what was i thinking | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | playing a video. bah! | 21:12 |
| F22 | actually it's just b4HOME now | 21:18 |
| manekineko | what do you mean? | 21:18 |
| F22 | the option | 21:18 |
| F22 | in startup.txt | 21:18 |
| F22 | no equal sign any more. | 21:19 |
| F22 | i wanted it to match what i did for the microp kl file. | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | i thought making it power wouldn't work | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | without kernel changes | 21:19 |
| manekineko | nah, my rootfs has it working as power fine | 21:19 |
| F22 | something has changed arrrghhh. | 21:19 |
| manekineko | what'd you do for the microp kl file? | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | everything else works too? | 21:19 |
| F22 | it works now. | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:19 |
| F22 | not sure what changed exactly | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, it didn't use to :P | 21:20 |
| manekineko | oh really? guess as soon as I got around to looking at the keymaps, it must have already been fixed | 21:20 |
| F22 | it used to require a modified kernel too | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:21 |
| F22 | if you wanted to give the power button the home keycode | 21:21 |
| F22 | that one couldn't be changed from the kl. | 21:21 |
| F22 | now it can be. | 21:21 |
| manekineko | pretty cool | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | you can do all the same hold keys as well? | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | i guess with b4HOME you lose end call | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | :( | 21:22 |
| manekineko | ya that's the downside | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | nothing is the best option | 21:22 |
| manekineko | yeah, which is why options are nice I think | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | so with power=home, how do you turn it off | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | end? | 21:22 |
| manekineko | yeah | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | there really is no good way to solve this problem. | 21:23 |
| F22 | manekineko: i was thinking of something like powerHOME-b4POWER for what you want. | 21:23 |
| manekineko | F22, maybe for the official commit HOME=b4 or something might be a more future-proof way of doing it, if there's any chance of a HOME= anything else in the future | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | if we all had f-ing home keys instead of windows keys. | 21:23 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, heh then we wouldn't have option | 21:23 |
| manekineko | that's pretty important too | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | we'd just remap it to something else | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | and deal :P | 21:23 |
| F22 | the physical button is then in lowercase, while the keycode assigned is in all caps. | 21:23 |
| manekineko | option should be power! haha | 21:23 |
| manekineko | hmm I guess that works too F22 | 21:24 |
| manekineko | pretty different from all of the other options though | 21:25 |
| hyc | this shouldn't be such a huge headache. how does the Galaxy S get by with no physical buttons? | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 21:25 |
| F22 | the problem i faced was the microp keylayout option | 21:25 |
| F22 | it was getting very cluttered, and the equal signs didn't help. | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, end call and begin call are soft keys | 21:25 |
| F22 | it actually seemed clearn without them. | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | no dedicated buttons | 21:25 |
| F22 | cleam=cleaner | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to get stine to put the stock AOSP dialer on there | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | but he said it has fitment issues on vga... | 21:26 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: with the right launcher we can do that. then we don't need the begin call button. | 21:26 |
| manekineko | hmm, couldn't you just detect phone model like we already do elsewhere in the code | 21:26 |
| manekineko | and display a dialer based on that? | 21:26 |
| F22 | stuff like...rhod300-pttSEARCH-homeSEARCH_microp-keypad.kl | 21:26 |
| F22 | doesn't work for the language as far as i know | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, i don't think you can swap userland stuff like that on the fly | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not positive, but i wouldn't think that's easily doable. | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | if at all | 21:27 |
| manekineko | no way the userland can ask for the phone's hardware identity? | 21:27 |
| F22 | need to check to see if it can be changed on the fly in userland, i know stinebd wasn't sure, but was thought it might require a reboot. | 21:28 |
| manekineko | the keymaps? | 21:28 |
| F22 | layouts | 21:28 |
| F22 | i know the keymaps can be changed. it checks the binary every time. | 21:28 |
| manekineko | so you'd write an app for selecting keys? | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | no no way to swap out the dialer screen on the fly manekineko | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not positive tho | 21:29 |
| manekineko | hmm, well there is a hardware field we're not using in the froyo.user.conf file that normally identifies the phone hardware model I guess | 21:29 |
| F22 | by doesn't work for language, i meant that the variant detection code only gives you model number, not the specific language keyboard you have. | 21:30 |
| F22 | so as far as i know it doesn't tell the diff between rhod100_de and rhod100_fr | 21:30 |
| F22 | or at least the code from wozzer can't tell. | 21:30 |
| manekineko | wait, now we're talking about keyboard layouts again? hah I'm so confused... | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | F22 is talking about something different than what i'm talking about. | 21:31 |
| F22 | just clarifying something i said earlier | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | two different conversations are being had at the same time with one person, you manekineko :P | 21:31 |
| manekineko | oh ok, that makes more sense haha | 21:31 |
| F22 | now the issue i face is that the microp options are tied to both the microp layout and the microp keymap. so any change needs to be done for -all- of them. | 21:32 |
| F22 | unless it's specific to the phone model | 21:32 |
| F22 | for example only the 300/tilt2 has the ptt button | 21:32 |
| F22 | now if we're looking at just the gpio buttons it's much simpler. | 21:33 |
| F22 | only a handful of those, and they don't change depending on phone model or kbd. | 21:33 |
| manekineko | the microp options are the things you're adding to startup.txt? | 21:34 |
| F22 | b4HOME changes the gpio kl or "navi_pad" file as it's called in the existing repo. | 21:35 |
| F22 | things like rhod300-pttSEARCH-homeSEARCH change the microp kl | 21:35 |
| manekineko | so the issue is just that it's a lot of work going through all of the models? | 21:37 |
| manekineko | how are you handling the switching? is their some script that finds and reads a certain file based on the microp option? | 21:38 |
| F22 | well that, and the fact that the more options are added, the more cumbersome those options become. and if i split them off people would get royally confused regarding which ones could be combined how. | 21:38 |
| manekineko | what do you mean split them off? | 21:39 |
| F22 | yes, instead of doing a grep, a sed command basically grabs the relevant info which then gets chopped up. | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | sed is sick | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | if you can figure out how to use it lmao | 21:40 |
| manekineko | oh so each option is multiplying the number of files | 21:40 |
| manekineko | hmm | 21:40 |
| hyc | generate the output file on the fly? from a set of known alternatives. | 21:41 |
| manekineko | I guess that's the split off approach F22 suggested? | 21:42 |
| manekineko | does seem like a good idea though to split each common part off into its own file though | 21:42 |
| manekineko | and then generate the output file on the fly | 21:42 |
| F22 | more efficient then grep a dozen or more times until you find something that matches. | 21:43 |
| F22 | this way you only check /proc/cmdline once | 21:43 |
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| manekineko | hmm, it could be possible just to drop this whole thing into the startup.txt to allow custom keymap definitions right? | 21:44 |
| F22 | generating on the fly is a possibility | 21:44 |
| manekineko | so that the output file would be generated on the fly | 21:44 |
| manekineko | by appending to the base keyboard defintiions | 21:44 |
| F22 | would need to probably go to awk for that. | 21:44 |
| manekineko | whatever is in the appropriate startup.txt section | 21:45 |
| F22 | or write something in c. | 21:45 |
| F22 | the shell that comes with android is very limited. | 21:45 |
| manekineko | write something in c? that seems like overkill | 21:45 |
| manekineko | hmm oh that's true | 21:45 |
| hyc | sed can do it all | 21:45 |
| F22 | lol, true | 21:45 |
| manekineko | it has sed? | 21:45 |
| F22 | yes, sed is what i'm using now. | 21:45 |
| manekineko | so it'd be possible to have something in the startup.txt then that's like set microp "key 139 MENU key 102 MUTE" | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | sed is amazing | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | i love it and hate it at the same time. | 21:46 |
| manekineko | and just have that stuck on the end of an output file | 21:46 |
| manekineko | kinda ugly though I suppose, with those key numbers | 21:46 |
| manekineko | except for the 5th row and the hardware buttons, all of the keyboard keys are the same on different models so it'd be nice and DRY to have one base file | 21:48 |
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| F22 | all the keyboard keys aside from row 5 are not the same across all the models. there are a lot of differences in the keymaps, particularly with regard to fn combos. | 21:49 |
| F22 | the gpio kl's are all the same. | 21:49 |
| F22 | i condensed those down to one easily enough, and then added a second for b4HOME. | 21:50 |
| F22 | i think what you mean manekineko is that the layouts are pretty much the same except for row 5, although i believe there may be some exceptions there too. | 21:50 |
| F22 | heh, for example | 21:51 |
| F22 | 100_de is qwertz not qwerty, and 100_fr is azerty. | 21:51 |
| manekineko | right, so the kcms differ | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | christ | 21:51 |
| manekineko | oh wow | 21:51 |
| manekineko | weird | 21:51 |
| manekineko | hmm | 21:51 |
| manekineko | ok well shoot there goes that theory then | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 21:51 |
| F22 | i'm kind of hesitant to put time into creating a way to generate the files on the fly when the real holy grail is making it possible to adjust the layouts in the framework. we haven't yet established whether or not that can be done without a reboot yet. i need to create the hooks in /sys to test that out. if i can change them on the fly, then i can look into creating a menu for it in the framework. | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | that would be the best | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | for sure | 21:58 |
| manekineko | true, that would be a very impressive solution | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | so would be adding a bacon dispenser. | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like 2 pieces of bacon please | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | wrrrrrrrrrrrrr bacon! | 22:02 |
| manekineko | that would make the TP2 the best phone the market still | 22:03 |
| manekineko | hmm, seems pretty easy to check whether it can be changed without reboot | 22:03 |
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| manekineko | where are the files it copies to | 22:03 |
| manekineko | can't I just do it on the terminal right now and see? | 22:03 |
| manekineko | /etc/keymaps right? | 22:03 |
| F22 | oh, you mean just overwriting them? well i'm talking about having the kernel actually check the values in the /sys directory | 22:04 |
| manekineko | oh so for sure just overwriting them doesn't work? | 22:04 |
| F22 | i know overwriting the kcm binaries works. haven't tried overwriting the kl's. but the framework needs a way of knowing what the current files are, and a way of saving user changes to the layout. | 22:06 |
| F22 | current values are i mean | 22:06 |
| manekineko | hmm well if this worked, it could just write the current values to a file like /init.etc./keymaps/custom | 22:06 |
| manekineko | and then if present, that's always used | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | killall zygote | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | problem solved F22 | 22:07 |
| F22 | there are kernel drivers that handle that though, the framework and the kernel need to communicate. | 22:09 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: lol | 22:09 |
| manekineko | hmm alright, this is more than my level of understanding gained form idle poking around in XDAndroid | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:11 |
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| manekineko | so arrrghhh, what's this I hear about super secret advancements made on BT? haha | 22:12 |
| hyc | is this the same as tiad8's BIG ANOOUNCEMENT ? | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:12 |
| manekineko | which one lol | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea that's awesome | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what tiad8 is "hiding" | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | but viruscrazy said he did get BT working | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | haven't tested it myself | 22:12 |
| hyc | cool, does he have a thread talking about it? | 22:12 |
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| hyc | wow, he's really sensitive about that topic :P | 22:14 |
| manekineko | lol | 22:14 |
| manekineko | like I said, super secret | 22:14 |
| hyc | lol | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | stupid winblows | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea i just heard it | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | haven't talked to viruscrazy about it at all. | 22:15 |
| manekineko | say, hyc, you're highlandsun right? | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 22:17 |
| F22 | hyc: when you had the engineering sample 210, were you getting reboots or hangs every time it came up? | 22:18 |
| manekineko | hyc, which build of FroyoX were you using that you discovered GPS doesn't cause sleep issues? | 22:19 |
| F22 | hyc: nvm, i see that you got past the hang, and then hit the oops panic. | 22:26 |
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| stinebd | ok | 22:38 |
| stinebd | noop'ed the bluetooth event loop | 22:38 |
| stinebd | so it doesn't crash when activating, just silently dies | 22:39 |
| stinebd | gonna put out a testing build tonight | 22:39 |
| rpierce99 | yay gb | 22:39 |
| stinebd | of gingerbread | 22:39 |
| stinebd | looking pretty good minus all the missing features | 22:40 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i was worried arrrghhh was going to switch permanently the way he was talking about it | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | worried | 22:41 |
| rpierce99 | if you moved on to GB who would mess up all of our froyo testing :P | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | i vote rpierce99 | 22:43 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i'm pretty good at screwing stuff up | 22:44 |
| rpierce99 | i somehow managed to break my wifi to a point where reverting to an old kernel, an old rootfs, a stock system image, a new data.img, and formatting the sd card doesn't fix it | 22:45 |
| stinebd | all at the same time? | 22:47 |
| rpierce99 | no | 22:48 |
| rpierce99 | i was trying to isolate | 22:48 |
| rpierce99 | i don't care enough to start from scratch | 22:48 |
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| Sweety10 | i wanna add the xdanroid software to my pro touch 2 can someone help me with the process | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | where are you stuck | 23:19 |
| Sweety10 | i need the link to download the software | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | how did you get here? | 23:27 |
| Sweety10 | 23:27 | |
| stinebd | wow we're the top result on google for xdandroid now | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | niced | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | Sweety10, you found an irc chat from google | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | but not a build | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | impressive. | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | read the faq please | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | and if you click on downloads | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | grab the "Reference" build, the RAR file. DO NOT use the CAB. | 23:30 |
| rpierce99 | wow that chart is out of date | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol indeed | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | reef... has moved on | 23:32 |
| stinebd | watch out gandalf! saruman is a bad guy! | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | it shows | 23:32 |
| Sweety10 | i downloaded the software whats next? | 23:37 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 23:38 |
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| stinebd | http://southcape.org/2011/02/11/xdandroid-gingerbread-public-test-build/ | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | nice post stinebd | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | just read ur post on xda :D | 23:57 |
| stinebd | i leave the glory to you, sir. i must now retire for the evening. | 23:59 |
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