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| Maxi_ | hey, i was wondering (well because im confused) but, how do you add in the overclocked android. when i downloaded it i got a oc.diff.txt file and idk what to do with it | 01:26 | 
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| arrrghhh | where did you get that?!? | 01:26 | 
| arrrghhh | you add a line in your startup.txt | 01:26 | 
| arrrghhh | in the cmdline | 01:26 | 
| arrrghhh | doesn't make a whole lotta difference TBH | 01:26 | 
| arrrghhh | seems to cause more problems then it solves, if it really does 'solve' any problems | 01:27 | 
| Maxi_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665909 right here | 01:27 | 
| arrrghhh | huh | 01:28 | 
| arrrghhh | random | 01:28 | 
| arrrghhh | that's a patch on how to OC | 01:28 | 
| Maxi_ | idk wat that is | 01:28 | 
| arrrghhh | considering our kernels have been patched since... around that post to OC | 01:28 | 
| Maxi_ | your confusing me | 01:28 | 
| arrrghhh | well good because you don't need to | 01:29 | 
| Maxi_ | o cool | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | did you read any of the post? | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | at all? | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | or any of the faq? | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm honestly surprised you stumbled onto that post | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | how did you even dig that up? | 01:29 | 
| Maxi_ | i found it on the 2.2.1 forum post | 01:29 | 
| Maxi_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 01:29 | 
| Maxi_ | i was looking for overclocking and found that | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | what device do you have? | 01:30 | 
| Maxi_ | htc fuze | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't bother | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | but if you bothered to scroll down | 01:31 | 
| Maxi_ | since its coming from you i'll listen (since you help me out ALOT) but wwhy | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure why babijoee put that in there, probably just a holdover from back in the day | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | reasons i listed above | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | doesn't really help much | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | just causes more problems if anything | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | and drains your battery more | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't really notice any gains in speed on the UI or anything | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | so i don't see the point of overclocking | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | but if you scrolled down a bit | 01:31 | 
| arrrghhh | Overclocking | 01:32 | 
| arrrghhh | acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=XXXXXX ( i personally use 600000-640000 ) | 01:32 | 
| arrrghhh | put that in your startup.txt, in the cmdline section if you wish to overclock. | 01:32 | 
| arrrghhh | replaces the X's with #'s. evidently those are good values for the RAPH, i'm not sure. i have a RHOD, and don't OC | 01:32 | 
| Maxi_ | thanks again and one question where do you live its like late and i wouldn't be helping people out at all during this time | 01:32 | 
| arrrghhh | eh i'm about to go to bed | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm -7 | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | timezonewise | 01:33 | 
| Maxi_ | ohh im -5, well im sorry for keeping you up so late. Have a good night | 01:33 | 
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| hafirangi | hi guys | 09:27 | 
| hafirangi | any news on camera?? | 09:28 | 
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| emwe | stinebd: is there any specific gingerbread.user.conf somewhere or can i copy froyo.user.conf? | 12:02 | 
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| hyc | has this been fixed yet? about every 10 seconds I see in logcat a battery state change notification | 15:53 | 
| hyc | but it's always the same state each time, since nothing has actually changed. | 15:53 | 
| hyc | it's accompanied by "attempting to remove unknown iface (usb0), ignoring | 15:54 | 
| hyc | so it seems whatever monitors the state of the USB plug doesn't know when to shut up. | 15:55 | 
| hyc | D/WifiService( 1347): ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED pluggedType: 0 | 15:56 | 
| hyc | (or pluggedType: 1 if it's actually plugged in) | 15:57 | 
| hyc | 1347 is the system_server process | 15:57 | 
| rpierce99 | hyc: I don't know anything other than I see the same thing in my logcat | 15:59 | 
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| hyc | rpierce99: ok. just fyi, no such logs on my G1. | 16:06 | 
| rpierce99 | hyc: I should clarify, the messages i get are the iface (usb0) not the battery changed | 16:07 | 
| rpierce99 | misread what you wrote | 16:08 | 
| hyc | ok, so you only get 1 of the 2 messages I always get | 16:08 | 
| hyc | but either way, it looks like whatever is monitoring USB for status changes is not shutting up when it should. | 16:14 | 
| rpierce99 | i wonder if i don't get the battery change notice because i'm not using Wifi | 16:18 | 
| rpierce99 | D/WifiService | 16:18 | 
| hyc | ah, maybe so. since this is still my 2ndary phone, I just have a prepaid SIM in it with no data service. so wifi is always on. | 16:19 | 
| rpierce99 | i would turn it on to test but it doesn't work with my current setup | 16:19 | 
| hyc | I'll toggle it off and see | 16:19 | 
| hyc | yep | 16:20 | 
| hyc | turned off wifi, no more wifiservice message | 16:20 | 
| hyc | but the other message is E/Tethering( 1347) and I've never used tethering at all. | 16:21 | 
| rpierce99 | but usb debugging is probably enabled | 16:22 | 
| rpierce99 | which i'd guess is what it's referring to | 16:22 | 
| hyc | usb0 is specifically an IP session. USB debugging / adb doesn't use that, it uses its own special protocol. | 16:23 | 
| hyc | s/IP session/IP interface/ | 16:24 | 
| rpierce99 | I googled a bit and I see another user over on Neopeeks forums that has a DIAM100 and gets both messages | 16:28 | 
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| stinebd | emwe: you can probably just copy it over | 17:16 | 
| emwe | stinebd: hi. just did so in the meantime. | 17:16 | 
| emwe | btw, hope you were fine with the ril commits | 17:16 | 
| stinebd | oh god i totally forgot about the sprintf thing | 17:17 | 
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| arrrghhh | F22, ping | 17:18 | 
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| stinebd | emwe: cool, nice to see i correctly added you to the team | 17:19 | 
| emwe | stinebd: nice to see i didn't screw it ;) | 17:19 | 
| emwe | and yah. just had to change my push url | 17:19 | 
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| arrrghhh_ | stupid winmo tehter. | 17:20 | 
| arrrghhh_ | tether* | 17:20 | 
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: i saw you being naughty on the forums earlier :D | 17:20 | 
| emwe | tether.... ts. arm9 crashes on sound trials on .35. that's a pita. | 17:20 | 
| arrrghhh | naughty? me? naw. | 17:20 | 
| arrrghhh | you talkin' 'bout that very public dispute i'm having with tiad8? | 17:20 | 
| emwe | ok peeps. off to bed. and make virtkeyb bigger :P | 17:20 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:21 | 
| stinebd | not so much tiad8 as the guy who called you an idiot | 17:21 | 
| stinebd | emwe: night. thanks | 17:21 | 
| arrrghhh | oh yea that was fun. | 17:21 | 
| hyc | the moron... | 17:21 | 
| arrrghhh | lots of winners there | 17:22 | 
| stinebd | just so you know, in case this stuff keeps coming up, most of his hackjobs on the system image, we'll probably never be able to use | 17:22 | 
| stinebd | and he's not required to release source for those either | 17:22 | 
| arrrghhh | defending... god knows what they're defending. | 17:22 | 
| arrrghhh | that's fine | 17:22 | 
| arrrghhh | but he needs to ask permission from devs instead of just kanging their builds and rebranding them. | 17:22 | 
| stinebd | meh, not really | 17:22 | 
| F22 | arrrghhh: what's up? | 17:22 | 
| arrrghhh | that's my big issue with his poop. i know we won't get much help collaborating with him. | 17:22 | 
| stinebd | eventually people will see where the results are coming from | 17:23 | 
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| stinebd | i can't wait for tomorrow | 17:24 | 
| stinebd | that bluetooth tease of his has me excited | 17:24 | 
| arrrghhh | F22, about the rootfs you have posted | 17:24 | 
| F22 | what about it? | 17:24 | 
| arrrghhh | can you attach it to the post or is it too big? | 17:24 | 
| F22 | i think it's just barely too large. | 17:24 | 
| arrrghhh | damn. | 17:25 | 
| F22 | xda's cap is 8mb i believe. | 17:25 | 
| arrrghhh | i was having issues with mediafire | 17:25 | 
| arrrghhh | my phone it doesn't work at all | 17:25 | 
| stinebd | 8mb wtf | 17:25 | 
| Tec | As someone who's spent quality time with the FRX04 release, it's pretty damm slick. If that's 'beta', someone deserves a beer | 17:25 | 
| arrrghhh | and thru a tethered connection i get a part of the download, and then just fails for no reason. | 17:25 | 
| arrrghhh | lol Tec throw mr stinebd a beer. | 17:25 | 
| stinebd | Tec: just wait for gingerbread. if you like froyo, that will blow your mind. | 17:25 | 
| F22 | file is 8.79mb. | 17:25 | 
| arrrghhh | he deserves a few. | 17:25 | 
| Tec | I actually got on the channel yesterday just to see if someone had a lead on why it wipes the battery? | 17:26 | 
| stinebd | i'm a non-alcoholic | 17:26 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:26 | 
| arrrghhh | wipes the battery? | 17:26 | 
| stinebd | you can send me a few bottles of water or something though | 17:26 | 
| hyc | mmm, been watching to see whether G1 gingerbread will stabilize before rhodium... | 17:26 | 
| Tec | Beats up my Touch Pro2 vs native. Wondered if there was a lead on what was running. The usage looks like something always on or on a busy cron job | 17:27 | 
| stinebd | hyc: or nexus one gingerbread :/ | 17:27 | 
| stinebd | Tec: very low-level stuff which has to be fixed in the kernel by people with datasheets. work is underway for it. | 17:27 | 
| F22 | arrrghhh: weren't you able to download from mediafire before? | 17:28 | 
| arrrghhh | F22, at home. | 17:28 | 
| arrrghhh | can't at work :/ | 17:28 | 
| rpierce99 | Tec: what model phone do you have | 17:28 | 
| F22 | ah | 17:28 | 
| hyc | Tec: sometimes just watching logcat in a terminal will show you the culprit | 17:28 | 
| Tec | Ok, figured. | 17:28 | 
| Tec | Sprint TP2 | 17:28 | 
| rpierce99 | are you running the test kernel? wayyy better battery | 17:28 | 
| hyc | yeah, with the 01/30 kernel I get ~40 hours in standby | 17:28 | 
| Tec | Not yet, that's good to know thanks | 17:28 | 
| stinebd | wow | 17:29 | 
| hyc | haven't loaded the 02/02 yet | 17:29 | 
| stinebd | hyc: with data on? | 17:29 | 
| hyc | no, but wifi is on. | 17:29 | 
| stinebd | just as good | 17:29 | 
| hyc | I don't have data on this SIM card | 17:29 | 
| stinebd | that's pretty good | 17:29 | 
| Tec | I have some experience with this kind of things, which is why I wondered if there was something that needed investigating | 17:29 | 
| Tec | er, these kind of things, even | 17:29 | 
| rpierce99 | stinebd: I have data on and it's just as good for me | 17:29 | 
| rpierce99 | i have a ton of syncing stuff and by the end of the day i'm at maybe 60% when i plug it in for the night | 17:30 | 
| hyc | ah I have all the auto sync stuff turned off | 17:30 | 
| stinebd | anything that holds a socket open? | 17:30 | 
| rpierce99 | stinebd: i get a green sleep, would that mean no? | 17:30 | 
| hyc | and the system turns off wifi when it goes to sleep | 17:30 | 
| stinebd | not sure how the rhod led works for sleep | 17:31 | 
| stinebd | hyc: ah that's cheating | 17:31 | 
| hyc | yeah, green means fully asleep | 17:31 | 
| rpierce99 | ah, when I say a ton of syncing I'm just talking about twitter, facebook, gvoice, and 2 email accounts | 17:31 | 
| hyc | stinebd: oh well ;) | 17:31 | 
| stinebd | rpierce99: push email? | 17:31 | 
| rpierce99 | yes | 17:31 | 
| stinebd | beautiful | 17:31 | 
| rpierce99 | exchange + gmail | 17:31 | 
| hyc | actually I see that it wakes up from time to time. the LED goes from green to orange for a few seconds. | 17:31 | 
| hyc | system_server has an NTP client thread, it tries to sync the clock periodically. | 17:32 | 
| hyc | there's other stuff like that too going on. | 17:32 | 
| rpierce99 | hyc: yeah my light isn't solid green all the time either, partial wake every now and then | 17:32 | 
| stinebd | i wish we could get there for raph | 17:32 | 
| Tec | That's kind of aggressive. How much clock drift can there be? | 17:32 | 
| rpierce99 | Tec: a ton, before i installed clockysnc I was getting an hour or more drift while at work | 17:33 | 
| hyc | Tec: at this point it seems kinda unpredictable | 17:33 | 
| Tec | In a DAY? | 17:33 | 
| hyc | I've gone 24 hours with no drift | 17:33 | 
| hyc | and then 30 hours with 15 minutes lag | 17:33 | 
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| Tec | That's not drift, that's like an int not getting serviced | 17:33 | 
| hyc | right | 17:33 | 
| stinebd | it's worse with overclocking i think | 17:34 | 
| Tec | Which is backwards ;-/ | 17:34 | 
| hyc | though you'd think stuff like that should be easy to prevent. screw the interrupts, just re-read the HW clock on every wakeup. | 17:34 | 
| rpierce99 | I have my phone set to re-sync the clock every hour, and currently it is off by 26 seconds | 17:35 | 
| rpierce99 | sorry, every 3 hours is my current setting | 17:35 | 
| rpierce99 | last sync was 2 hours ago | 17:35 | 
| Tec | While yeah, read the HW clock is a fix, it's not. If there are int's not being serviced in time that's like a disease the corrupts everything | 17:36 | 
| rpierce99 | wow the clocksync program is awesome: Average drift: -763.824 sec/day | 17:36 | 
| hyc | Tec: yeah good point | 17:36 | 
| rpierce99 | that might include the 5 hours I lose every time I reboot into WinMo though | 17:36 | 
| hyc | and we know there's already plenty of associated issues. | 17:37 | 
| hyc | like my comment a few pages back about the usb0 interface | 17:37 | 
| Tec | It would explain a world of problems | 17:37 | 
| Tec | And, sadly, it only takes one bad ISR to gimp everything | 17:37 | 
| hyc | somebody is generating a USB status change event and it keeps firing, even though the status is the same all the time. | 17:37 | 
| hyc | so perhaps the ISR is not acking the right flag... | 17:38 | 
| Tec | er, or that ;-/ | 17:38 | 
| Tec | USB status change on a phone sitting there on the desk? wth? | 17:38 | 
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| arrrghhh | Tec, fix it already :P | 17:41 | 
| Tec | Well, that's why I came by | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | as stinebd likes to say - patches welcome! | 17:42 | 
| Tec | I'm a SERO holdout that designed/wrote a commercial kernel | 17:42 | 
| Tec | Admittedly, that's not rational | 17:42 | 
| arrrghhh | Oo? | 17:42 | 
| Tec | So I was curious if the problem was localized at all. | 17:43 | 
| Tec | Sounds like an ISR log would be worthwhile reading | 17:44 | 
| arrrghhh | there's a lot of code that needs to be cleaned up | 17:44 | 
| arrrghhh | battery code is just... broken evidently. | 17:44 | 
| Tec | calibration's a bitch | 17:45 | 
| arrrghhh | works much better than it did, but far from accurate. | 17:45 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, and i guess jonpry said the path camro was going down with his algo work was flawed from the beginning. | 17:45 | 
| stinebd | very flawed. it blew up his device. | 17:45 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:45 | 
| arrrghhh | WisTil2 said PM code is a freakin mess | 17:46 | 
| Tec | So IS there a 'big book of building FRX04' page somewhere? | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | who knows what else it out there. | 17:46 | 
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: Don't scare the guy off :) | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | Tec, xdandroid.com | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:46 | 
| Tec | Where's the Cat in the Hat pic then? | 17:46 | 
| Tec | ;-p | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:46 | 
| arrrghhh | look at the "Building" section in the middle there. | 17:47 | 
| Tec | Found it | 17:47 | 
| arrrghhh | coolio | 17:47 | 
| Tec | Tnx | 17:47 | 
| arrrghhh | np | 17:47 | 
| arrrghhh | which reminds me, i need to pull down this gb mess. | 17:47 | 
| stinebd | coolio? | 17:47 | 
| arrrghhh | y'know that dude with the hair? | 17:48 | 
| stinebd | jesus? | 17:48 | 
| Tec | Yo yo yo 'sup dawgs | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/Coolio-575-old.jpg | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | that's such a great pic, omfg. | 17:48 | 
| stinebd | oh | 17:48 | 
| stinebd | the kwanzaa bot | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/cookinwithcoolio-cover.jpg | 17:48 | 
| stinebd | seriously, he was the voice of kwanzaa bot in futurama | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | how 'bout that | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | really? | 17:48 | 
| arrrghhh | i never knew that. | 17:48 | 
| stinebd | i have an unhealthy obsession with futurama | 17:49 | 
| * arrrghhh does as well | 17:49 | |
| arrrghhh | matt groening in general really | 17:49 | 
| Tec | Could be worse, mine's with Slayer | 17:49 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:49 | 
| Tec | Doesn't always go over well at dinner parties | 17:50 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:50 | 
| arrrghhh | awesome | 17:50 | 
| Tec | "Did you see the sale over at Tiffany's" and "Admonish of cruciform. Impalement. Immortality scorned" | 17:52 | 
| Tec | People are so close minded I swear | 17:52 | 
| Tec | I'm always up for a sale, wth? | 17:53 | 
| Tec | Having no free will, at this point I've cued all the Slayer up. I should play Futurama in the background silently for solidarity | 17:57 | 
| rpierce99 | why not, it's on netflix instant | 17:57 | 
| Tec | Actually, I showed my kids Futurama, just to explain who Santa Claus really is | 17:58 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao that's just wrong | 17:58 | 
| * rpierce99 doesn't get the joke, as he has never watched Futurama | 17:59 | |
| Tec | My kids grew up with Slayer, Deicide, Obituary. Hell that's downright -cuddly- by our standards. | 17:59 | 
| arrrghhh | wtf is wrong with you rpierce99 :P | 17:59 | 
| rpierce99 | sorry, never been a big cartoon guy | 18:00 | 
| Tec | They knew what a GE Minigun (Predator) was before they could spell. ;-p | 18:00 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:00 | 
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, just givin ya crap. i thought everyone was obsessed with the simpsons and futurama like i am :P | 18:00 | 
| Tec | Someone's not? | 18:01 | 
| rpierce99 | yeah I know, I'm in the minority, I've probably seen 10 episodes of Simpsons, and 5 of South Park | 18:01 | 
| Tec | Not 'obsessed.' Just required viewing. Like Trek | 18:01 | 
| rpierce99 | My wife would kill me if I picked up a Star Trek habit | 18:01 | 
| arrrghhh | oh man. | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | south park is the shiznit | 18:02 | 
| rpierce99 | I had to watch BSG on my phone because I couldn't watch it at home | 18:02 | 
| Tec | There's something immoral about not being able to quote Conan, the Matrix, old SNL | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | they've had some bumps lately, but for the most part it's been awesome. | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | keyword OLD snl. | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | new crap freakin sucks. | 18:02 | 
| Tec | And even my kids can quote almost the entire Holy Grail | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:02 | 
| rpierce99 | Holy Grail is the best | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | my parents raised me the same way. | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | minus the slayer :P | 18:02 | 
| Tec | Now that I'm dad,it's … well, I'll see when they get home | 18:03 | 
| Tec | But it's amusing. If they were pulling up the test scores for the whole frickin' school, | 18:03 | 
| rpierce99 | My youngest is on Word World and my oldest is on Harry Potter & Star Wars | 18:03 | 
| Tec | I'm thinking the school would be far less, uh, happy with me | 18:03 | 
| Tec | er, sorry, if they WEREN'T | 18:04 | 
| * arrrghhh actually feels young for once. | 18:04 | |
| Tec | Childhood reincarnated. 'Your kid is a nightmare!' 'You kid is the only 99.9% percentile in the school' | 18:04 | 
| arrrghhh | these 14-year old ROM cookers make me feel like a freakin ancient old man. | 18:05 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:05 | 
| stinebd | ahem | 18:05 | 
| stinebd | i'm 15 next month | 18:05 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:05 | 
| Tec | THEY get out of a lot of shit. | 18:05 | 
| Tec | Turns out as a parent they still complain when my 9 yr old when out on the playground when someone trashed his fort and screamed 'What the FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?' | 18:06 | 
| Tec | Personally, I can see that. But the pushback from the school is annoying | 18:06 | 
| Tec | Stined you are really 15? | 18:06 | 
| arrrghhh | no | 18:06 | 
| stinebd | 14 | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | what are you stinebd, 28? | 18:07 | 
| stinebd | 26 | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | bah | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | you're my age, wtf. | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:07 | 
| Tec | You don't have to say obviously | 18:07 | 
| stinebd | no, you're MY age | 18:07 | 
| stinebd | i own this age | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | stinebd, what month were you born. | 18:07 | 
| stinebd | june | 18:07 | 
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 18:08 | 
| Tec | But if you were really young, I would suggest a book. Not great, might help with the hobby | 18:08 | 
| arrrghhh | so technically i am your age, you're 2 months older than me :P | 18:08 | 
| arrrghhh | Tec, eh? | 18:08 | 
| Tec | Well, masterpiece it's not, but Operating Systems Design & Implementation (Tanebaum) would be worth reading if it's new | 18:09 | 
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:09 | 
| Tec | I've built more than one OS up from scratch. However a lot of the parts of this 'modern' crap is lego'd together | 18:09 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:09 | 
| Tec | Insomuch that it works, that's hot. But actually understanding what's happening is worth something | 18:09 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 18:09 | 
| arrrghhh | i've always wanted to know "the why" and not just "the how" | 18:10 | 
| Tec | If you're 20+, might be a waste of time. But a good book if you're in high school | 18:10 | 
| arrrghhh | sooooooo new member of the dev team eh? :P | 18:10 | 
| stinebd | i've learned the why. it's not so glamorous. | 18:10 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:10 | 
| Tec | That book's pretty good on why | 18:10 | 
| stinebd | actually my OS course was taught by some korean dude who made a ton of zelda and nintendo references | 18:11 | 
| Tec | The one problem with porting is you're always squishing the turd into a new bread pan | 18:11 | 
| arrrghhh | but seriously, we always welcome new devs to the team Tec. anybody can contribute. | 18:11 | 
| Tec | Don't let this crap burn you out. Walking the From Scatch walk is HUGELY educational | 18:11 | 
| Tec | Might even put the fun of it back in there | 18:11 | 
| stinebd | if i go back to school for my masters, that korean dude will be my advisor. strongly considering it. | 18:12 | 
| stinebd | he also taught me gsm | 18:12 | 
| arrrghhh | sigh... | 18:12 | 
| Tec | When I designed my first kernel, I actually wrote the first protected mode OS for the x86 architecture | 18:12 | 
| arrrghhh | really wish i would've finished my degress. | 18:12 | 
| arrrghhh | degree* | 18:12 | 
| Tec | As such, it was all new ground. | 18:12 | 
| Tec | I even found broken Intel instructions that I had to call in. No one had ever used them | 18:13 | 
| Tec | I think there's room for that again. Maybe in ARM space | 18:13 | 
| arrrghhh | afaik the docs are lacking | 18:14 | 
| arrrghhh | so lots of RE'ing winmo dll's to figure out what's happening. | 18:14 | 
| Tec | The plague of all this crap | 18:14 | 
| Tec | I would kill to get Qualcomm to just cough up public docs | 18:14 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:14 | 
| arrrghhh | hw manufacturers don't like that crap to be public | 18:14 | 
| arrrghhh | one guy on the dev team has docs from qualcomm, as he purchased some msm procs for a project his company is doing. | 18:15 | 
| arrrghhh | but there's only certain pieces he can use according to his NDA | 18:15 | 
| Tec | Intel/AMD/Zilog/Moto didn't have probs with it | 18:15 | 
| arrrghhh | moto?!? | 18:15 | 
| arrrghhh | maybe back in the day they didn't. | 18:15 | 
| Tec | Old school | 18:15 | 
| arrrghhh | but they're one of the worst on mobiles. | 18:15 | 
| arrrghhh | as far as locking crap down and releasing official docs on the hardware. | 18:15 | 
| stinebd | hah yeah, you talk about specs and their butt puckers up real tight | 18:16 | 
| Tec | I've spent a LOT of time reverse engineering the Palm hardware, which all went to shit once it was Treos | 18:16 | 
| Tec | Palms rocked. Then it went cellular and …. crash, burn, barely functional secret | 18:16 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:16 | 
| arrrghhh | F22, i never really finished my convo with you dude sorry. | 18:17 | 
| arrrghhh | long story short, can you provide an alternate link? if need be, i'll host it... | 18:17 | 
| Tec | What IS the story on the MSM docs? | 18:20 | 
| rpierce99 | haha downloading the rootfs popped up a new window "Congratulations you just qualified to win an Apple iPad & iPhone 4 Combo!" | 18:20 | 
| Tec | ;-p | 18:20 | 
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| Tec | You win! Be unique and free in your BEAUTIFUL CUSTOM DESIGNED CELL from _Apple_! | 18:20 | 
| arrrghhh_ | F22, sooner rather than later? :P | 18:21 | 
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| rpierce99 | arrrghhh_: if F22 isn't around I'm throwing it on dropbox right now | 18:21 | 
| Tec | They need Bob Barker and some hot chicks pushing it | 18:21 | 
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, thanks dude. | 18:21 | 
| arrrghhh | i need to keep a cache of crap at work as welll :P | 18:22 | 
| rpierce99 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50423/rootfs-f22-20110206-a88878d.img.7z | 18:24 | 
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| surge919 | Are there any devs looking for testers? I've followed the chats for a while and would like to help out. | 19:48 | 
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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, thanks... but i forgot dropbox is blocked too. stupid work, making me do work-related things. | 20:26 | 
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| arrrghhh | ^^ for posting that link, that is. | 20:27 | 
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| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: sorry are you cool now though? I can try to find somewhere else to up it | 20:30 | 
| arrrghhh | meh | 20:30 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm home | 20:30 | 
| arrrghhh | nbd when i'm @ home. | 20:31 | 
| rpierce99 | figured | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | winmo tethering blows donkey balls. | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't get it. i just wanted that newest rootfs before i booted android. i probably could've downloaded it in android, which was the ironic part. | 20:31 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess winmo blows donkey balls in general so... that does make sense. | 20:31 | 
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| arrrghhh | how many XirXes do we need in hurrrr XirXes_ XirXes | 20:47 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:47 | 
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| arrrghhh | fine. | 20:48 | 
| XirXes_ | isp issues:( | 20:48 | 
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:48 | 
| arrrghhh | you know about ghosting yes? | 20:48 | 
| arrrghhh | you can ghost your old nick | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | and reassume your original. | 20:49 | 
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| XirXes | fixed | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | yea well | 20:49 | 
| arrrghhh | you would've have been able to do that with the other guy here :P | 20:50 | 
| arrrghhh | wouldn't* | 20:50 | 
| arrrghhh | so much for proofreadin | 20:50 | 
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| arrrghhh | [ 1298.723663] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1) | 21:06 | 
| arrrghhh | [ 1298.723693] fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 121740) | 21:06 | 
| arrrghhh | that sounds bad. | 21:06 | 
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