Monday, 2011-02-07

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Maxi_hey, i was wondering (well because im confused) but, how do you add in the overclocked android. when i downloaded it i got a oc.diff.txt file and idk what to do with it01:26
arrrghhhwhere did you get that?!?01:26
arrrghhhyou add a line in your startup.txt01:26
arrrghhhin the cmdline01:26
arrrghhhdoesn't make a whole lotta difference TBH01:26
arrrghhhseems to cause more problems then it solves, if it really does 'solve' any problems01:27
Maxi_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665909 right here01:27
arrrghhhhuh01:28
arrrghhhrandom01:28
arrrghhhthat's a patch on how to OC01:28
Maxi_idk wat that is01:28
arrrghhhconsidering our kernels have been patched since... around that post to OC01:28
Maxi_your confusing me01:28
arrrghhhwell good because you don't need to01:29
Maxi_o cool01:29
arrrghhhdid you read any of the post?01:29
arrrghhhat all?01:29
arrrghhhor any of the faq?01:29
arrrghhhi'm honestly surprised you stumbled onto that post01:29
arrrghhhhow did you even dig that up?01:29
Maxi_i found it on the 2.2.1 forum post01:29
Maxi_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71169201:29
Maxi_i was looking for overclocking and found that01:30
arrrghhhwhat device do you have?01:30
Maxi_htc fuze01:30
arrrghhhi wouldn't bother01:30
arrrghhhbut if you bothered to scroll down01:31
Maxi_since its coming from you i'll listen (since you help me out  ALOT) but wwhy01:31
arrrghhhnot sure why babijoee put that in there, probably just a holdover from back in the day01:31
arrrghhhreasons i listed above01:31
arrrghhhdoesn't really help much01:31
arrrghhhjust causes more problems if anything01:31
arrrghhhand drains your battery more01:31
arrrghhhi don't really notice any gains in speed on the UI or anything01:31
arrrghhhso i don't see the point of overclocking01:31
arrrghhhbut if you scrolled down a bit01:31
arrrghhhOverclocking01:32
arrrghhhacpuclock.oc_freq_khz=XXXXXX ( i personally use 600000-640000 )01:32
arrrghhhput that in your startup.txt, in the cmdline section if you wish to overclock.01:32
arrrghhhreplaces the X's with #'s.  evidently those are good values for the RAPH, i'm not sure.  i have a RHOD, and don't OC01:32
Maxi_thanks again and one question where do you live its like late and i wouldn't be helping people out at all during this time01:32
arrrghhheh i'm about to go to bed01:33
arrrghhhi'm -701:33
arrrghhhtimezonewise01:33
Maxi_ohh im -5, well im sorry for keeping you up so late. Have a good night01:33
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hafirangihi guys09:27
hafirangiany news on camera??09:28
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emwestinebd: is there any specific gingerbread.user.conf somewhere or can i copy froyo.user.conf?12:02
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hychas this been fixed yet? about every 10 seconds I see in logcat a battery state change notification15:53
hycbut it's always the same state each time, since nothing has actually changed.15:53
hycit's accompanied by "attempting to remove unknown iface (usb0), ignoring15:54
hycso it seems whatever monitors the state of the USB plug doesn't know when to shut up.15:55
hycD/WifiService( 1347): ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED pluggedType: 015:56
hyc(or pluggedType: 1 if it's actually plugged in)15:57
hyc1347 is the system_server process15:57
rpierce99hyc: I don't know anything other than I see the same thing in my logcat15:59
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hycrpierce99: ok. just fyi, no such logs on my G1.16:06
rpierce99hyc: I should clarify, the messages i get are the iface (usb0) not the battery changed16:07
rpierce99misread what you wrote16:08
hycok, so you only get 1 of the 2 messages I always get16:08
hycbut either way, it looks like whatever is monitoring USB for status changes is not shutting up when it should.16:14
rpierce99i wonder if i don't get the battery change notice because i'm not using Wifi16:18
rpierce99D/WifiService16:18
hycah, maybe so. since this is still my 2ndary phone, I just have a prepaid SIM in it with no data service. so wifi is always on.16:19
rpierce99i would turn it on to test but it doesn't work with my current setup16:19
hycI'll toggle it off and see16:19
hycyep16:20
hycturned off wifi, no more wifiservice message16:20
hycbut the other message is E/Tethering( 1347) and I've never used tethering at all.16:21
rpierce99but usb debugging is probably enabled16:22
rpierce99which i'd guess is what it's referring to16:22
hycusb0 is specifically an IP session. USB debugging / adb doesn't use that, it uses its own special protocol.16:23
hycs/IP session/IP interface/16:24
rpierce99I googled a bit and I see another user over on Neopeeks forums that has a DIAM100 and gets both messages16:28
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stinebdemwe: you can probably just copy it over17:16
emwestinebd: hi. just did so in the meantime.17:16
emwebtw, hope you were fine with the ril commits17:16
stinebdoh god i totally forgot about the sprintf thing17:17
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arrrghhhF22, ping17:18
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stinebdemwe: cool, nice to see i correctly added you to the team17:19
emwestinebd: nice to see i didn't screw it ;)17:19
emweand yah. just had to change my push url17:19
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arrrghhh_stupid winmo tehter.17:20
arrrghhh_tether*17:20
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stinebdarrrghhh: i saw you being naughty on the forums earlier :D17:20
emwetether.... ts. arm9 crashes on sound trials on .35. that's a pita.17:20
arrrghhhnaughty?  me?  naw.17:20
arrrghhhyou talkin' 'bout that very public dispute i'm having with tiad8?17:20
emweok peeps. off to bed. and make virtkeyb bigger :P17:20
arrrghhhhahaha17:21
stinebdnot so much tiad8 as the guy who called you an idiot17:21
stinebdemwe: night. thanks17:21
arrrghhhoh yea that was fun.17:21
hycthe moron...17:21
arrrghhhlots of winners there17:22
stinebdjust so you know, in case this stuff keeps coming up, most of his hackjobs on the system image, we'll probably never be able to use17:22
stinebdand he's not required to release source for those either17:22
arrrghhhdefending... god knows what they're defending.17:22
arrrghhhthat's fine17:22
arrrghhhbut he needs to ask permission from devs instead of just kanging their builds and rebranding them.17:22
stinebdmeh, not really17:22
F22arrrghhh: what's up?17:22
arrrghhhthat's my big issue with his poop.  i know we won't get much help collaborating with him.17:22
stinebdeventually people will see where the results are coming from17:23
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stinebdi can't wait for tomorrow17:24
stinebdthat bluetooth tease of his has me excited17:24
arrrghhhF22, about the rootfs you have posted17:24
F22what about it?17:24
arrrghhhcan you attach it to the post or is it too big?17:24
F22i think it's just barely too large.17:24
arrrghhhdamn.17:25
F22xda's cap is 8mb i believe.17:25
arrrghhhi was having issues with mediafire17:25
arrrghhhmy phone it doesn't work at all17:25
stinebd8mb wtf17:25
TecAs someone who's spent quality time with the FRX04 release, it's pretty damm slick.  If that's 'beta', someone deserves a beer17:25
arrrghhhand thru a tethered connection i get a part of the download, and then just fails for no reason.17:25
arrrghhhlol Tec throw mr stinebd a beer.17:25
stinebdTec: just wait for gingerbread. if you like froyo, that will blow your mind.17:25
F22file is 8.79mb.17:25
arrrghhhhe deserves a few.17:25
TecI actually got on the channel yesterday just to see if someone had a lead on why it wipes the battery?17:26
stinebdi'm a non-alcoholic17:26
arrrghhhlol17:26
arrrghhhwipes the battery?17:26
stinebdyou can send me a few bottles of water or something though17:26
hycmmm, been watching to see whether G1 gingerbread will stabilize before rhodium...17:26
TecBeats up my Touch Pro2 vs native.  Wondered if there was a lead on what was running.  The usage looks like something always on or on a busy cron job17:27
stinebdhyc: or nexus one gingerbread :/17:27
stinebdTec: very low-level stuff which has to be fixed in the kernel by people with datasheets. work is underway for it.17:27
F22arrrghhh: weren't you able to download from mediafire before?17:28
arrrghhhF22, at home.17:28
arrrghhhcan't at work :/17:28
rpierce99Tec: what model phone do you have17:28
F22ah17:28
hycTec: sometimes just watching logcat in a terminal will show you the culprit17:28
TecOk, figured.17:28
TecSprint TP217:28
rpierce99are you running the test kernel? wayyy better battery17:28
hycyeah, with the 01/30 kernel I get ~40 hours in standby17:28
TecNot yet, that's good to know thanks17:28
stinebdwow17:29
hychaven't loaded the 02/02 yet17:29
stinebdhyc: with data on?17:29
hycno, but wifi is on.17:29
stinebdjust as good17:29
hycI don't have data on this SIM card17:29
stinebdthat's pretty good17:29
TecI have some experience with this kind of things, which is why I wondered if there was something that needed investigating17:29
Tecer, these kind of things, even17:29
rpierce99stinebd: I have data on and it's just as good for me17:29
rpierce99i have a ton of syncing stuff and by the end of the day i'm at maybe 60% when i plug it in for the night17:30
hycah I have all the auto sync stuff turned off17:30
stinebdanything that holds a socket open?17:30
rpierce99stinebd: i get a green sleep, would that mean no?17:30
hycand the system turns off wifi when it goes to sleep17:30
stinebdnot sure how the rhod led works for sleep17:31
stinebdhyc: ah that's cheating17:31
hycyeah, green means fully asleep17:31
rpierce99ah, when I say a ton of syncing I'm just talking about twitter, facebook, gvoice, and 2 email accounts17:31
hycstinebd: oh well ;)17:31
stinebdrpierce99: push email?17:31
rpierce99yes17:31
stinebdbeautiful17:31
rpierce99exchange + gmail17:31
hycactually I see that it wakes up from time to time. the LED goes from green to orange for a few seconds.17:31
hycsystem_server has an NTP client thread, it tries to sync the clock periodically.17:32
hycthere's other stuff like that too going on.17:32
rpierce99hyc: yeah my light isn't solid green all the time either, partial wake every now and then17:32
stinebdi wish we could get there for raph17:32
TecThat's kind of aggressive.  How much clock drift can there be?17:32
rpierce99Tec: a ton, before i installed clockysnc I was getting an hour or more drift while at work17:33
hycTec: at this point it seems kinda unpredictable17:33
TecIn a DAY?17:33
hycI've gone 24 hours with no drift17:33
hycand then 30 hours with 15 minutes lag17:33
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TecThat's not drift, that's like an int not getting serviced17:33
hycright17:33
stinebdit's worse with overclocking i think17:34
TecWhich is backwards  ;-/17:34
hycthough you'd think stuff like that should be easy to prevent. screw the interrupts, just re-read the HW clock on every wakeup.17:34
rpierce99I have my phone set to re-sync the clock every hour, and currently it is off by 26 seconds17:35
rpierce99sorry, every 3 hours is my current setting17:35
rpierce99last sync was 2 hours ago17:35
TecWhile yeah, read the HW clock is a fix, it's not.  If there are int's not being serviced in time that's like a disease the corrupts everything17:36
rpierce99wow the clocksync program is awesome: Average drift: -763.824 sec/day17:36
hycTec: yeah good point17:36
rpierce99that might include the 5 hours I lose every time I reboot into WinMo though17:36
hycand we know there's already plenty of associated issues.17:37
hyclike my comment a few pages back about the usb0 interface17:37
TecIt would explain a world of problems17:37
TecAnd, sadly, it only takes one bad ISR to gimp everything17:37
hycsomebody is generating a USB status change event and it keeps firing, even though the status is the same all the time.17:37
hycso perhaps the ISR is not acking the right flag...17:38
Tecer, or that   ;-/17:38
TecUSB status change on a phone sitting there on the desk? wth?17:38
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arrrghhhTec, fix it already :P17:41
TecWell, that's why I came by17:42
arrrghhhheh17:42
arrrghhhas stinebd likes to say - patches welcome!17:42
TecI'm a SERO holdout that designed/wrote a commercial kernel17:42
TecAdmittedly, that's not rational17:42
arrrghhhOo?17:42
TecSo I was curious if the problem was localized at all.17:43
TecSounds like an ISR log would be worthwhile reading17:44
arrrghhhthere's a lot of code that needs to be cleaned up17:44
arrrghhhbattery code is just... broken evidently.17:44
Teccalibration's a bitch17:45
arrrghhhworks much better than it did, but far from accurate.17:45
arrrghhhyea, and i guess jonpry said the path camro was going down with his algo work was flawed from the beginning.17:45
stinebdvery flawed. it blew up his device.17:45
arrrghhhheh17:45
arrrghhhWisTil2 said PM code is a freakin mess17:46
TecSo IS there a 'big book of building FRX04' page somewhere?17:46
arrrghhhwho knows what else it out there.17:46
rpierce99arrrghhh: Don't scare the guy off :)17:46
arrrghhhTec, xdandroid.com17:46
arrrghhhlol17:46
TecWhere's the Cat in the Hat pic then?17:46
Tec;-p17:46
arrrghhhheh17:46
arrrghhhlook at the "Building" section in the middle there.17:47
TecFound it17:47
arrrghhhcoolio17:47
TecTnx17:47
arrrghhhnp17:47
arrrghhhwhich reminds me, i need to pull down this gb mess.17:47
stinebdcoolio?17:47
arrrghhhy'know that dude with the hair?17:48
stinebdjesus?17:48
TecYo yo yo 'sup dawgs17:48
arrrghhhhttp://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/Coolio-575-old.jpg17:48
arrrghhhthat's such a great pic, omfg.17:48
stinebdoh17:48
stinebdthe kwanzaa bot17:48
arrrghhhlol17:48
arrrghhhhttp://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/cookinwithcoolio-cover.jpg17:48
stinebdseriously, he was the voice of kwanzaa bot in futurama17:48
arrrghhhhow 'bout that17:48
arrrghhhreally?17:48
arrrghhhi never knew that.17:48
stinebdi have an unhealthy obsession with futurama17:49
* arrrghhh does as well17:49
arrrghhhmatt groening in general really17:49
TecCould be worse, mine's with Slayer17:49
arrrghhhlol17:49
TecDoesn't always go over well at dinner parties17:50
arrrghhhhahaha17:50
arrrghhhawesome17:50
Tec"Did you see the sale over at Tiffany's" and "Admonish of cruciform. Impalement. Immortality scorned"17:52
TecPeople are so close minded I swear17:52
TecI'm always up for a sale, wth?17:53
TecHaving no free will, at this point I've cued all the Slayer up.  I should play Futurama in the background silently for solidarity17:57
rpierce99why not, it's on netflix instant17:57
TecActually, I showed my kids Futurama, just to explain who Santa Claus really is17:58
arrrghhhlmao that's just wrong17:58
* rpierce99 doesn't get the joke, as he has never watched Futurama17:59
TecMy kids grew up with Slayer, Deicide, Obituary.  Hell that's downright -cuddly- by our standards.17:59
arrrghhhwtf is wrong with you rpierce99 :P17:59
rpierce99sorry, never been a big cartoon guy18:00
TecThey knew what a GE Minigun (Predator) was before they could spell.  ;-p18:00
arrrghhhheh18:00
arrrghhhrpierce99, just givin ya crap.  i thought everyone was obsessed with the simpsons and futurama like i am :P18:00
TecSomeone's not?18:01
rpierce99yeah I know, I'm in the minority, I've probably seen 10 episodes of Simpsons, and 5 of South Park18:01
TecNot 'obsessed.'  Just required viewing.  Like Trek18:01
rpierce99My wife would kill me if I picked up a Star Trek habit18:01
arrrghhhoh man.18:02
arrrghhhsouth park is the shiznit18:02
rpierce99I had to watch BSG on my phone because I couldn't watch it at home18:02
TecThere's something immoral about not being able to quote Conan, the Matrix, old SNL18:02
arrrghhhthey've had some bumps lately, but for the most part it's been awesome.18:02
arrrghhhkeyword OLD snl.18:02
arrrghhhnew crap freakin sucks.18:02
TecAnd even my kids can quote almost the entire Holy Grail18:02
arrrghhhlmao18:02
rpierce99Holy Grail is the best18:02
arrrghhhmy parents raised me the same way.18:02
arrrghhhminus the slayer :P18:02
TecNow that I'm dad,it's … well, I'll see when they get home18:03
TecBut it's amusing.  If they were pulling up the test scores for the whole frickin' school,18:03
rpierce99My youngest is on Word World and my oldest is on Harry Potter & Star Wars18:03
TecI'm thinking the school would be far less, uh, happy with me18:03
Tecer, sorry, if they WEREN'T18:04
* arrrghhh actually feels young for once.18:04
TecChildhood reincarnated.  'Your kid is a nightmare!'  'You kid is the only 99.9% percentile in the school'18:04
arrrghhhthese 14-year old ROM cookers make me feel like a freakin ancient old man.18:05
arrrghhhlmao18:05
stinebdahem18:05
stinebdi'm 15 next month18:05
arrrghhhheh18:05
TecTHEY get out of a lot of shit.18:05
TecTurns out as a parent they still complain when my 9 yr old when out on the playground when someone trashed his fort and screamed 'What the FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?'18:06
TecPersonally, I can see that.  But the pushback from the school is annoying18:06
TecStined you are really 15?18:06
arrrghhhno18:06
stinebd1418:07
arrrghhhwhat are you stinebd, 28?18:07
stinebd2618:07
arrrghhhbah18:07
arrrghhhyou're my age, wtf.18:07
arrrghhh:P18:07
TecYou don't have to say obviously18:07
stinebdno, you're MY age18:07
stinebdi own this age18:07
arrrghhhstinebd, what month were you born.18:07
stinebdjune18:07
arrrghhhdamnit.18:08
TecBut if you were really young, I would suggest a book.  Not great, might help with the hobby18:08
arrrghhhso technically i am your age, you're 2 months older than me :P18:08
arrrghhhTec, eh?18:08
TecWell, masterpiece it's not, but Operating Systems Design & Implementation (Tanebaum) would be worth reading if it's new18:09
arrrghhhah18:09
TecI've built more than one OS up from scratch.  However a lot of the parts of this 'modern' crap is lego'd together18:09
arrrghhhheh18:09
TecInsomuch that it works, that's hot. But actually understanding what's happening is worth something18:09
arrrghhhindeed.18:09
arrrghhhi've always wanted to know "the why" and not just "the how"18:10
TecIf you're 20+, might be a waste of time. But a good book if you're in high school18:10
arrrghhhsooooooo new member of the dev team eh?  :P18:10
stinebdi've learned the why. it's not so glamorous.18:10
arrrghhhlol18:10
TecThat book's pretty good on why18:10
stinebdactually my OS course was taught by some korean dude who made a ton of zelda and nintendo references18:11
TecThe one problem with porting is you're always squishing the turd into a new bread pan18:11
arrrghhhbut seriously, we always welcome new devs to the team Tec.  anybody can contribute.18:11
TecDon't let this crap burn you out.  Walking the From Scatch walk is HUGELY educational18:11
TecMight even put the fun of it back in there18:11
stinebdif i go back to school for my masters, that korean dude will be my advisor. strongly considering it.18:12
stinebdhe also taught me gsm18:12
arrrghhhsigh...18:12
TecWhen I designed my first kernel, I actually wrote the first protected mode OS for the x86 architecture18:12
arrrghhhreally wish i would've finished my degress.18:12
arrrghhhdegree*18:12
TecAs such, it was all new ground.18:12
TecI even found broken Intel instructions that I had to call in.  No one had ever used them18:13
TecI think there's room for that again. Maybe in ARM space18:13
arrrghhhafaik the docs are lacking18:14
arrrghhhso lots of RE'ing winmo dll's to figure out what's happening.18:14
TecThe plague of all this crap18:14
TecI would kill to get Qualcomm to just cough up public docs18:14
arrrghhhindeed18:14
arrrghhhhw manufacturers don't like that crap to be public18:14
arrrghhhone guy on the dev team has docs from qualcomm, as he purchased some msm procs for a project his company is doing.18:15
arrrghhhbut there's only certain pieces he can use according to his NDA18:15
TecIntel/AMD/Zilog/Moto didn't have probs with it18:15
arrrghhhmoto?!?18:15
arrrghhhmaybe back in the day they didn't.18:15
TecOld school18:15
arrrghhhbut they're one of the worst on mobiles.18:15
arrrghhhas far as locking crap down and releasing official docs on the hardware.18:15
stinebdhah yeah, you talk about specs and their butt puckers up real tight18:16
TecI've spent a LOT of time reverse engineering the Palm hardware, which all went to shit once it was Treos18:16
TecPalms rocked.  Then it went cellular and …. crash, burn, barely functional secret18:16
arrrghhhheh18:16
arrrghhhF22, i never really finished my convo with you dude sorry.18:17
arrrghhhlong story short, can you provide an alternate link?  if need be, i'll host it...18:17
TecWhat IS the story on the MSM docs?18:20
rpierce99haha downloading the rootfs popped up a new window "Congratulations you just qualified to win an Apple iPad & iPhone 4 Combo!"18:20
Tec;-p18:20
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TecYou win! Be unique and free in your BEAUTIFUL CUSTOM DESIGNED CELL from _Apple_!18:20
arrrghhh_F22, sooner rather than later?  :P18:21
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rpierce99arrrghhh_: if F22 isn't around I'm throwing it on dropbox right now18:21
TecThey need Bob Barker and some hot chicks pushing it18:21
arrrghhhrpierce99, thanks dude.18:21
arrrghhhi need to keep a cache of crap at work as welll :P18:22
rpierce99http://dl.dropbox.com/u/50423/rootfs-f22-20110206-a88878d.img.7z18:24
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surge919Are there any devs looking for testers?  I've followed the chats for a while and would like to help out.19:48
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arrrghhhrpierce99, thanks... but i forgot dropbox is blocked too.  stupid work, making me do work-related things.20:26
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arrrghhh^^ for posting that link, that is.20:27
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rpierce99arrrghhh: sorry are you cool now though? I can try to find somewhere else to up it20:30
arrrghhhmeh20:30
arrrghhhi'm home20:30
arrrghhhnbd when i'm @ home.20:31
rpierce99figured20:31
arrrghhhwinmo tethering blows donkey balls.20:31
arrrghhhi don't get it.  i just wanted that newest rootfs before i booted android.  i probably could've downloaded it in android, which was the ironic part.20:31
arrrghhhi guess winmo blows donkey balls in general so... that does make sense.20:31
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arrrghhhhow many XirXes do we need in hurrrr XirXes_ XirXes20:47
arrrghhh:P20:47
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arrrghhhfine.20:48
XirXes_isp issues:(20:48
arrrghhhheh20:48
arrrghhhyou know about ghosting yes?20:48
arrrghhhyou can ghost your old nick20:49
arrrghhhand reassume your original.20:49
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XirXesfixed20:49
arrrghhhyea well20:49
arrrghhhyou would've have been able to do that with the other guy here :P20:50
arrrghhhwouldn't*20:50
arrrghhhso much for proofreadin20:50
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arrrghhh[ 1298.723663] FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1)21:06
arrrghhh[ 1298.723693]     fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 121740)21:06
arrrghhhthat sounds bad.21:06
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arrrghhhany RHOD100 users in here with the AUO panel...?23:03
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