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| Sad0felix | hola | 10:45 |
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| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | F22: what are these lies you're spouting about the force headset setting? | 11:46 |
| Sad0felix | uh | 11:52 |
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| posse | hello guys! can anyone figure out my problem? while trying to start haret it freeze on PSR=600000df? | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | what phone | 11:58 |
| posse | topaz | 11:58 |
| posse | however, this project is awesome!! | 11:58 |
| posse | btw, I have the latest bundle with the newest system file | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | you're sure of that | 11:59 |
| posse | yes 19 nov | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | 19 now? | 12:00 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 12:01 |
| posse | ? | 12:02 |
| posse | Topaz [2.2.1][FRX03 Final] | 12:02 |
| paalsteek | posse: try a newer kernel | 12:03 |
| paalsteek | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 12:03 |
| paalsteek | 20101124_215731 fixes that issue | 12:04 |
| posse | okay, will do. Thank you very much! | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | so you LIED to me! | 12:04 |
| posse | booyah, that sound nice | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | how can i ever trust the internets again. | 12:04 |
| posse | say what? :p | 12:04 |
| paalsteek | no he didn't | 12:04 |
| paalsteek | he said he has the newest bundle | 12:05 |
| paalsteek | not the newest files^^ | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol i see | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | content confusion | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | not quite as good as pronoun trouble. | 12:05 |
| posse | oh, sry, thought the buncle included the latest kernel even though i'm not as geek to understand what that really is >.< | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | it includes the latest kernel from when that bundle was made :P | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | kernels get pushed very frequently. i've seen several in one day. | 12:07 |
| posse | d'oh! >.< | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | usually because the first one didn't work right, but hey. | 12:07 |
| posse | :O | 12:07 |
| posse | what does the modules package do? does the name matter? | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | leave the name of modules | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | it's kernel modules | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | for wifi | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what else is in that file TBH... AFAIK all it breaks is wifi if you don't have the modules file. | 12:12 |
| posse | oh, okeey, thx | 12:12 |
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| arrrghhh | try renaming your data.img | 12:19 |
| posse | it's called rootfs | 12:19 |
| posse | shall I rename it to data then? | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | i just want it to create a new one | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | to see if your old data.img is hosing it | 12:22 |
| posse | aha, okay | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure what the problem is tho, paalsteek seemed to be pretty confident a newer kernel would fix it... | 12:22 |
| posse | hm | 12:22 |
| posse | didn't create a new one | 12:25 |
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| posse | should the initrd be a .gz file? I dl'd the latest and it isn't | 12:27 |
| posse | didn't work without .gz | 12:30 |
| posse | seems it does not matter what I do, latest kernel, initrd and modules or latest bundle or one of those with the "fix" kernel | 12:34 |
| paalsteek | posse: you downloaded the new kernel and unpacked it to the sdcard? | 12:35 |
| posse | if I didn't have to unplud the battery I would not complain | 12:35 |
| posse | yes to the root of the sd and removed rel path from startup.txt | 12:35 |
| paalsteek | did you rename zImage_...? | 12:36 |
| posse | yes, to just zImage | 12:36 |
| paalsteek | mmhhh....strange | 12:36 |
| paalsteek | for me the new kernel works | 12:36 |
| posse | hm, okay | 12:37 |
| paalsteek | and it looks like it does for others too | 12:37 |
| posse | yeah | 12:37 |
| posse | what about what aaarggh was on to? the rootfs.img hosted? i didn't understand but it didn't create a new one when i renamed it | 12:38 |
| posse | brb | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | no data.img | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | jeebus. | 12:38 |
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| arrrghhh | perhaps you should stick to winmo :P | 12:38 |
| CoolSilver | hey all | 12:39 |
| CoolSilver | You guys excited about Gingerbread being released? | 12:43 |
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| TheDeadCPU | It's just the SDK that is released.. | 12:47 |
| Aks | but some N1's are getting the update ... is that different ? | 12:50 |
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| arrrghhh | seems that rumor is false Aks | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | and sdk is different than the actual update. | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | which is also separate of AOSP | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | that update is what we care about, in reality. when the update the AOSP code. | 12:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Lol porting a N1 rom to our phones. | 12:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | JesusFreak316, N1 runs AOSP oO | 12:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | Like, clean AOSP, no changes | 12:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | AFIAK | 13:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | AFAIK* | 13:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but it's optimized for the N1 hardware, not our crappy stuff, afaik. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | we run pretty close to aosp | 13:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nope, it's just AOSP lol | 13:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I would imagine it has armv7 optimizations at the very least. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | as close as humanly possible. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: in the kernel... | 13:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | If it were just AOSP then why don't we ever just port the rom? | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | we run aosp dude | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | the reference builds that stinebd pumps out? | 13:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | I mean AOSP from the nexus. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | it's the same thing | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | is what we're trying to tell you :P | 13:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | So then, why don't we just port the rom? | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | we're already running as much of it as we can | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | what else do you want to port? | 13:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Gingerbread from the N1, silly. | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | when aosp drops | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure we'll get it up soon | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | remember how quick we got froyo? | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | it was like a week, maybe two after aosp dropped. | 13:03 |
| posse | @aargghh - i def don't want wm, man that sux. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | gingerbread isn't available for the n1 either, that was a false rumor. | 13:03 |
| posse | well that sound pretty neat | 13:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | What I'm saying is if the N1 has an AOSP build why don't we just use that since that will get gingerbread a while before the release 2.3 on AOSP. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | article has been subsequently removed from engadget | 13:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | It will be available before the AOSP site is updated though if froyo was any indication. | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: why not wait for the actual code? much easier to port when you have the damned source. | 13:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | That's what I was saying earlier!!! | 13:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | "Lol, porting a N1 rom to our phones." | 13:04 |
| crispee | holly snow today | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | so we've gone in a big circle | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | and you still don't get it? lol. | 13:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Exactly. | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | hahhahahaha | 13:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Bottom line, is it would be possible but not ideal if we did port it? | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | maybe | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | just means a lot more work of mucking thru crap that may not work | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | when aosp in theory will be ported relatively easily to our devices. | 13:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | That's pretty much what I meant by saying "lol, porting a N1 rom to our phones" | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | that's why we try to stay closely to aosp, so when there are updates we only make a few changes to get it to work. | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | oh i see what you are saying, i followed that convo incorrectly. i thought you were implying we should port from the n1. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think Aks was implying that... were yo? | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | you* | 13:07 |
| Aks | ya | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | oh... damnit. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | why would you think that would be possible or even easy? | 13:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | I WIN!!! | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | i fail. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | as does Aks. | 13:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | HD2 might get a port but our devices, LOLOLOL. | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | bah. | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | stfu about your unusable hd2. | 13:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | :P | 13:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's perfectly usable. | 13:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | I set up Google voice so I can wifi calls. SUCK IT! | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | but you can't use it i thought? | 13:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, just requires sip. | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | i mean like your parents said noooo you can't use it. | 13:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, well I set up sip on my computer and all I have to do is install voice and sipdroid when I get it. | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | SUCK THAT | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | and i could do the same on my phone, i'm not sure why i should suck it... | 13:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Because I can actually make calls so you can't make as much fun of me for it. :P | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 13:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | As long as I have Wifi, lol. | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | hey look at that | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | i can make calls whenever i want! | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | OoOoOoOo data works when i'm driving too :D | 13:12 |
| posse | wtf | 13:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | COngratulations you have a cell phone. | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol congratulations you have a paperweight? | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | well at least outside of your house. | 13:13 |
| posse | haha | 13:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | No, I just have a really nice ipod touch type device then. :) | 13:14 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: Re: snd.force_headset - not lies, i looked at snd.c :P | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | F22: haha ok. | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | i just kept reposting what babijoee had listed | 13:14 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i incorrectly assumed he was right? | 13:15 |
| Aks | hey from the discussion above ... I never thought the aosp is portable ... but I was thinking if the 2.3 installer is available ... we can update out kernels ... | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | haven't tried it yet btw. | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: ... what are you talking about. | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | that's nonsense. | 13:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is the emulator available? | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | i think TheDeadCPU said it was. | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | unless he's just lying, which nords typically do. | 13:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | What? | 13:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | Emulator is out yea? | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | 2.3 emulator goodness | 13:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | Have a screenshot of the glorious keyboard http://ppc-norge.no/gallery/#/content/Gingerbread/gingerbread%20keybd.PNG | 13:19 |
| posse | norsk bokmål. hehe | 13:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | Norge<3 | 13:20 |
| posse | jasså du e fra norge? :o | 13:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | damn swedes. | 13:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | I am indeed. | 13:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, oh you | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | posse is evidently swedish :P | 13:21 |
| posse | *hrm* | 13:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | O'rly | 13:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | Makes sense | 13:21 |
| posse | don't tease the ancestors of the mighty vikings! | 13:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | aka Norwegians? :D | 13:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | ehehheheh | 13:22 |
| posse | no no no, scandinavia B) | 13:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | Generally Norway. But yea | 13:23 |
| posse | d'oh | 13:23 |
| posse | norway is just a mishappening. look at the nordic dick. finland+sweden-norway | 13:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | True | 13:24 |
| posse | you got to be proud of something | 13:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea. Like the oil | 13:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | :D | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | lots of oil | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how your gov't would be setup if you didn't have all that oil monies... | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure it'd be quite different :P | 13:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | We would be farmers. | 13:25 |
| posse | yea, you're like one of the wealthiest countries in the world but cheap and stupid... | 13:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | Only thing you swedes beat us in is Piratpartiet and Internet speed. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 13:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | That's us yup. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | Scandinavian fight! | 13:25 |
| posse | hoho, go Piratpartiet!! | 13:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, scandinavians can't fight. | 13:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | The world would implode in awesomness | 13:26 |
| posse | hell yea | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | you're too agreeable to be viking decedents. | 13:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | Vikings loved eachother | 13:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | Soo | 13:27 |
| posse | naaw | 13:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | I only argue with Frenc and British people | 13:27 |
| posse | that's the spirit! | 13:27 |
| posse | fight with those who speak funny you must | 13:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:28 |
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| TheDeadCPU | So danes? | 13:28 |
| posse | yea, and the bottom part of sweden - skåne | 13:28 |
| posse | gravbortskane.nu (y) | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | ha, you're the ones who speak funny! :P | 13:28 |
| posse | va fan säger du? | 13:29 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Yea, ka i hælvete e det du prat i skotty? | 13:29 |
| posse | oh yea? what kind of a word is 'indeed'? can't even be translated properly | 13:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | It can't? | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | verkligen | 13:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol nynorsk | 13:30 |
| posse | haha | 13:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | And he said properly lol | 13:30 |
| posse | yea xactly | 13:31 |
| posse | jeg er så irritert! | 13:31 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: there's an earlier post by phh in the same thread from quite a few months back saying pretty much what i did about the snd.force_headset settings, but people seem to have ignored him and kept on reposting that bit of bad info anyway. if it somehow made it into babijoee's list that would explain why it keeps getting reposted despite being untrue. | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | godt du er irriterende.... | 13:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | hahaha | 13:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | You fail arrrghhh | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | F22: yea i was just going off of what was in his post... i didn't notice the post by phh. | 13:32 |
| posse | yea that sounded kind of lame | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: google translate fail? i have no clue what i'm posting lol | 13:32 |
| posse | haha | 13:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | yea | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 13:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Google Transfail doesn't work for Norwegian | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:33 |
| posse | hey arrghhh, do you know any language besides eng? guess not | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's not perfect for any language. | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | posse: why woud you assume that? | 13:33 |
| posse | why not? | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not fluent in any other language, but i know bits and pieces of other languages. | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | mostly french & spanish. | 13:33 |
| posse | niice | 13:33 |
| posse | je ne sais pas? | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 13:34 |
| posse | well I thought, here in sweden we have classes in english but I suppose you don't and it seems stupid to learn a language not spoken by as many as eng | 13:35 |
| posse | if it's mandatory that is | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | we technically don't have a national language. | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | so nothing can be enforced. which is why they have the driving test in like 200 languages. | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | but all the road signs are in english... retarded. | 13:35 |
| posse | that's what they all say | 13:35 |
| posse | hehe, true | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | some countries have official national languages. | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | in fact i would assume most do :P | 13:36 |
| posse | well, yeah | 13:36 |
| posse | so eng is an internationall language but not a national? kind of? xP | 13:36 |
| F22 | education in the US is a mess...huge political football so nothing ever gets fixed...we do terribly in all the international comparisons. | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | hooray! our children will all be idiots. | 13:37 |
| posse | haha, yeah saw that on youtube; Name a country that begins with a U? *silence*... How about the one you live in? | 13:38 |
| posse | xD | 13:38 |
| posse | do you seriously think that Paris is the capital of Europe? | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | it's not? :P | 13:38 |
| posse | actually, it is... | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | what is the capital of europe? lol | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | hahahhaaha | 13:39 |
| posse | a test. A dog was walking towards a sea to take a bath. On the way, he encountered 4 cats, with 3 mice each on their backs. Including the dog, how many animals were going to the sea? | 13:40 |
| posse | first one to answer right is declared non-american | 13:40 |
| F22 | *snicker* | 13:40 |
| F22 | only the dog is going to the sea. the other 12 were simply "encountered". :P | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to say lol | 13:42 |
| posse | w00t! F22 is actually a swede! | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem like the cats are going to join the dog. | 13:42 |
| posse | the dog had a baseball bat... | 13:42 |
| F22 | lol | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | hahhaa | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | tough dogs up there in sweden. | 13:43 |
| posse | oh yea, they are the ones scratching wolves and eating foxes | 13:43 |
| posse | sometimes even bears | 13:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea | 13:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | We have those here too | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | hahhahaha | 13:43 |
| F22 | lol | 13:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | Where in Sweden are you located posse ? | 13:44 |
| posse | in the middle ;) | 13:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'm in bodø, | 13:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | I are farther north :D | 13:44 |
| posse | let's see | 13:44 |
| posse | yea, at the coast? | 13:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'm north of arjeplog lol | 13:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | I'm moving to Lofoten | 13:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | Why? | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | Lofoten is dead | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | dead? | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yup | 13:46 |
| posse | great idea there | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's becoming an oil town now : / | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | aw. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | looks so beautiful :P | 13:46 |
| posse | that's where the first americans were born | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | EWW NO | 13:46 |
| posse | that speaks for itself | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | Lofoton is ugly | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Flakstad_%28Lofoten%29.jpg | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's ugly? | 13:46 |
| posse | that's 40 years ago | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | That's pretty yes | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | But that's all gone soon | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | posse: that pic was taken in 2008. | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | And most of lofoton is NOT like that | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:47 |
| posse | yeah, a pic of an old pic :p | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 13:47 |
| posse | no but seriously that place looked real nice | 13:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'd take a picture of the mountain on the other side of this fjord I live by | 13:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | But it's 100% dark outside so.. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:48 |
| posse | yeah pitch black as the silly arrgghhhs would say | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | probably until january huh? | 13:48 |
| Sad0felix | Guess what, it's 100% dark in N italy too, now :P | 13:49 |
| posse | nice fishing in fjords? | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | posse, meg | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | meh* | 13:49 |
| posse | hm italy, are ferraris cheap there? | 13:49 |
| Sad0felix | catch u all later | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | This fjord doesn't have fish. lol | 13:49 |
| Sad0felix | ^_^ LMAP | 13:49 |
| posse | oh >.< | 13:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | It does. But it's all shit | 13:49 |
| Sad0felix | yeah, dude, we usually find them in easter eggs | 13:49 |
| posse | i want to move to italy | 13:50 |
| Sad0felix | uh, surprise, the new 458 | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't mind living in italy. not knowing italian would be a damper tho. | 13:50 |
| posse | buy meself a 458... oh boy | 13:50 |
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| Sad0felix | uh, italians are not too well educated people | 13:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Ferrari is shit. | 13:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Zonda <3 | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:51 |
| posse | not the F40 | 13:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | Omg F40 is HAWT | 13:51 |
| Sad0felix | yeah, deadCPU, when you get one give it to me free, I will not cry | 13:51 |
| posse | well, that's nice I admit, but how about Saleen S7 TT | 13:51 |
| posse | hehe | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 13:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | saleen... only american sports car worth a crap. | 13:51 |
| Sad0felix | +1 arrrghhh | 13:52 |
| posse | yeah nice | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | Zonda Cinque > all | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | mclaren f1.... was that american? | 13:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | I went through my old road and track magazines and the s7 one was the only one I kept. | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, no | 13:52 |
| posse | that's right | 13:52 |
| Sad0felix | Sadly, americans have too large and straight roads to usually make proper snappy and light sport cars | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: ah, england. surprising.. | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | Actually. | 13:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | There IS a good american sportscar. | 13:53 |
| Sad0felix | You know that Horacio Pagani, the maker of Zonda comes from Argentina, right? | 13:53 |
| posse | that's odd | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | Only 106 cars were manufactured - f1's. holy crap, i saw one of those on the road in colorado a few weeks ago... i knew they were rare, didn't think they were THAT rare... | 13:53 |
| Sad0felix | he is based in Modena, near Ferrari, near Lamborghini, near De Tomaso (failed) | 13:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, Chrysler Crossfire. | 13:53 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: that's not american. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | and it's a POS. | 13:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, and only like 20 left lol | 13:54 |
| Sad0felix | that's german | 13:54 |
| posse | that's not even goodlokking | 13:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | The new one is "american" | 13:54 |
| posse | oops | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | Assembly Osnabrück, Germany | 13:54 |
| Sad0felix | remember the Daimler-Chrysler, thing | 13:54 |
| Sad0felix | now it's FIAT-Chrysler, FTW!!!! | 13:54 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | Sad0felix: GM baby. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | the whole schebang | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder when i'll start seeing fiats here. | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | naaaa | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | getting ploughed by a hummer | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | plowed i guess would be a better spelling | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | never, dude | 13:55 |
| posse | listen, Dodge Charger -69 with the grill from a -68 or Shelby GT500 Eleanor that's cars | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | maybe some 500 | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | ploughed just seems dirtier. | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | to steal market to minis | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure the 500 will be a hit | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | but you use sodium chloride | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | not potassium chloride | 13:55 |
| Sad0felix | against ice on roads | 13:56 |
| Sad0felix | that destroys european metalworks | 13:56 |
| F22 | Chrysler is circling the drain... | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | The Crossfire shares 80%[7] of its components with other Mercedes-Benz models | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:56 |
| Sad0felix | uh, FIAT is not going to make them produce FIATs | 13:56 |
| posse | someone was awake during chemistry class :O | 13:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Anyways lol | 13:56 |
| Sad0felix | just using some of their selling points to place some trials of fiat littles | 13:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | I like the New challenger. Though the old one is way nicer. | 13:57 |
| posse | true true | 13:57 |
| F22 | i doubt FIAT can save Chryslder. | 13:57 |
| Sad0felix | is the challenger one of those clueless gas drainer V8s? | 13:57 |
| posse | do you mean the old or new? | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | the new | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol they're the same. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | the new just looks crappy compared to the old. | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | the new is heavier | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | not sure how they managed that. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | charger front end looks pretty good. | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | you know, when someone starts doing remakes | 13:58 |
| posse | heavier? that's almost a feat to accomplish that! | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | like for movies | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | god the t-bird... | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | that was a horrible remake of a car. | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | the first is good | 13:58 |
| Sad0felix | the second so so | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 13:59 |
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| Sad0felix | then all the rest is just shit | 13:59 |
| posse | SAAB 2stroke! | 13:59 |
| Sad0felix | and when I think about the first | 13:59 |
| Sad0felix | I think about Ford GT | 13:59 |
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| posse | that's a mean car B) | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea. and the new one looks the part | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | but it's an unreliable POS. | 14:00 |
| posse | POS? | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | piece of shit | 14:00 |
| uub11_ | lol | 14:00 |
| Sad0felix | yep, Clarkson docet | 14:00 |
| posse | oh ok | 14:00 |
| posse | tss :p | 14:00 |
| Sad0felix | but, boy it was good | 14:00 |
| Sad0felix | pure violence | 14:00 |
| Sad0felix | that's a proper american muscle car | 14:01 |
| posse | +1 | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | not these chargers, mustangs | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | ok, quite nice to look at | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | and cheap too | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | but have to go for the shelbies | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | to have something comparable to an M3 or so | 14:01 |
| Sad0felix | I meant M5. | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | there really isn't anything. | 14:02 |
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| Sad0felix | btw | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | that's produced in the US at least. | 14:02 |
| posse | have you looked at used Jags? | 14:02 |
| Sad0felix | I don't know by you | 14:02 |
| posse | cheap! | 14:02 |
| Sad0felix | but here, atm, is completely useless to have a car bigger than 1 liter | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | posse: cuz you need to hire a full-time mechanic to keep the damned thing running... | 14:03 |
| Sad0felix | we have speed cameras sticked in the arse from birth | 14:03 |
| Sad0felix | ahahaha, go jap, then | 14:03 |
| posse | okay, the x300 then | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | Sad0felix: where in italy do you live? | 14:03 |
| Sad0felix | Verona | 14:03 |
| posse | haha | 14:03 |
| posse | where's that? | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | kinda close to my last name :P | 14:03 |
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| Sad0felix | in highways, they calculate mean spead through portals | 14:04 |
| Sad0felix | mean speed | 14:04 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 14:04 |
| posse | wooow | 14:04 |
| Sad0felix | northern italy | 14:04 |
| posse | that's hard | 14:04 |
| posse | fucking haret! always freeze at the same point. nice chat thingy here though :p | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | posse: do you ever see the flying text? | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | or does it freeze on the haret screen? | 14:06 |
| posse | no | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | topa100? | 14:06 |
| posse | touch diamond 2 | 14:06 |
| posse | topaz | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | 100 | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 14:06 |
| posse | don't know, have just read bout topaz td2 and diamond100 or 500? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | under the battery | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | should be the model 3 | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | model # | 14:07 |
| posse | aha topa100 | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:08 |
| posse | model 3? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | so you MUST have a kernel newer than 11/24 | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | typo | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i meant model # | 14:08 |
| posse | oh ok | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | so you're not updating your kernel correctly. | 14:08 |
| posse | okay, feels like i'm getting somewhere, thanks | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | you're replacing this stuff where you run haret from? | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | food time | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 14:09 |
| posse | yeah, deleting the old files and renaming the new ones | 14:09 |
| posse | okay | 14:09 |
| Sad0felix | did it go? | 14:10 |
| Sad0felix | I am going home, with mbike in the fscking rain | 14:10 |
| Sad0felix | cyall later | 14:10 |
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| F22 | posse: when the rhodium and topaz board files were split on Oct 23rd, a bug was inadvertently introduced that caused the panels of some rhod & top models to freeze during haret's handover from winmo to the linux kernel. the Nov. 24th patch fixed it. | 14:17 |
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| posse | ha, okay, didn't have a clue. thank you! | 14:19 |
| posse | still, I believe i'm using later kernel | 14:20 |
| posse | but as aarghh was onto, I'm doin it wrong | 14:20 |
| posse | maybe | 14:20 |
| CoolSilver | Any word from ACL about the panel power down for Rhod Nand? | 14:27 |
| posse | in the conf folder some txt says to copy it to conf if I got a diamond? those the td2 count as diamon or is it just the first? and, there is already the same file there? | 14:27 |
| posse | ops, bad timing | 14:28 |
| posse | change the sleep time to 2? | 14:28 |
| posse | have you tried that coolsilver? | 14:30 |
| CoolSilver | No I don't know what all is different from Haret than Nand for it. I suppose I could try it | 14:31 |
| posse | i dont understand but okay | 14:31 |
| CoolSilver | Would that be in tinboot or the froyo.conf | 14:32 |
| posse | I meant the startup.txt but you seem more into these haxxing stuff than me | 14:32 |
| posse | so I'm probably not much help. but maybe aarrghhh has finished his meal soon, then you will get a solution ;) | 14:33 |
| posse | 14:35 | |
| CoolSilver | Yea NAND uses tinboot. We don't have a startup.txt. I know ACL been working on a framebuffer with 3d and such. | 14:35 |
| CoolSilver | It will get done when it gets done :D | 14:36 |
| posse | okay, haven't heard of tinboot before :p. that sounds nice :p | 14:36 |
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| posse | does it 'work' on the topaz as well? | 14:37 |
| posse | btw, isn't it possible to get a log or something from haret? | 14:38 |
| F22 | tinboot is the bootloader currently used by rhodium nand, probably because dzo used it with the vogue/kaiser. i believe it's rhodium only at this point. hd2 uses a different bootloader. arrrghhh can tell you more about it since he's been involved with the testing. | 14:41 |
| posse | aha okay. yeah, has arrghh choked or what happened? | 14:45 |
| F22 | lol, no idea | 14:49 |
| CoolSilver | Probably busy coding :) | 14:52 |
| posse | hehe, yea | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i can't tell you nohting. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | nothing | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | [12:09] <arrrghhh> food time [12:09] <arrrghhh> bbl | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | F22 summed up nand nicely. | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK we used tinboot because that's what dzo used :P | 14:59 |
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| posse | hey! you're back | 15:00 |
| posse | can you tell me how to update kernel 'properly' now :)? | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | i thought i did when i left | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | download the file, extract it. you'll get 2 files. | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | zImage-xxxxx | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | and modules-xxxx.tar.gz | 15:02 |
| posse | yeah? | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | rename zImage to just that - zImage | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | leave the modules file alone | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | go to where you run haret.exe from | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | usually root of sd card or /sdcard/andboot/ | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | delete the old zImage/modules file | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | replace with these new ones | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | click haret. | 15:02 |
| posse | nice written, but that's what I do. hold a bit and I'll give you the text where it freeze | 15:03 |
| posse | HaRET boot | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | do you have mutliple builds or something? | 15:04 |
| posse | shutting down hardware | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | maybe your startup.txt is incorrect? | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | pastebin that file. | 15:04 |
| posse | latest build but replaced kernel, initrd, modules, rootfs... | 15:05 |
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| arrrghhh | did you rename the rootfs? | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | and initrd? | 15:05 |
| posse | pastebin? I took the one in topaz foler in startup config | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | you need to match those files with their old file name. | 15:05 |
| posse | yeah to just rootfs | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | basically all file names should match, minus the modules file. that's the only one you don't rename. | 15:05 |
| posse | and initrd.gz | 15:05 |
| posse | yeah | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | pastebin your startup | 15:06 |
| posse | pastebin? | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | google? | 15:06 |
| posse | what? i dont understand pastebin? :p | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | it's for pasting multi-lined things like configuration files. | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | posse: google it. | 15:06 |
| posse | oh | 15:06 |
| posse | okay | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | the first link will take you to the site. | 15:06 |
| posse | http://pastebin.com/ndgm4GZK | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | look at the set KERNEL line | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | please fix it :D | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | you can either modify your startup.txt | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | or just rename the file. IMHO it's easier to just rename the file. | 15:08 |
| posse | oops, that's the old experimental i had on my pc. phone rebooting | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | que? | 15:08 |
| posse | on the phone its just zimage both startup.txt and zimage itself | 15:08 |
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| posse | i'm a bit tired... | 15:10 |
| posse | how come the startup->cmdline is so short on topaz? | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | there's a ton of options to put in there | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | but they're not required. | 15:13 |
| posse | okay, why are there lots of stuff in the other phones startups? | 15:13 |
| F22 | you're not setting overclocking or sleep mode, topaz doesn't have a keyboard so no need to set that either. | 15:13 |
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| F22 | you're not setting gsensor either, but i'm not sure what the deal with that one is on top. | 15:14 |
| posse | okay | 15:14 |
| posse | http://pastebin.com/GMAdyqQD that's what I get when launching haret | 15:16 |
| F22 | overclocking speeds up your cpu some at the cost of draining your battery faster and potentially adding instability depending on how high you push the overclock. overclocking can make your phone behave rather sluggishly if you pass the point the chip can handle comfortable, and crash if you go higher. | 15:17 |
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| posse | thanks, can be good to know | 15:17 |
| F22 | sleep mode determines how "deeply" asleep the phone goes while sleeping. the general rule is use "1" if you don't overclock, "2" if you do. | 15:19 |
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| posse | okay, gonna copy this | 15:20 |
| posse | ;) | 15:20 |
| SpecR | msm device !!! | 15:21 |
| SpecR | does HTC RAPH800 qualify/is as a msm7k dev? | 15:22 |
| F22 | yes | 15:22 |
| SpecR | great, tnx | 15:22 |
| F22 | np | 15:23 |
| SpecR | just a aired question, following the tutorial in http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-touch-pro/104276-linux-android-cdma-touch-pro-now-working-verizon-gps.html Ill get android 2.2 on my HTC dev right? | 15:25 |
| SpecR | I just got the device 3 days ago and Im new to mods (not to computers though) | 15:26 |
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| SpecR | I already upgraded the factory stock CDMA rom to the newest version today, yet Id like to run android on it | 15:27 |
| posse | upon succession: (ᴖ¿ᴖ) upon fail(now): (Ώ¿Ώ), (ᴗ¿ᴗ), (ň¿ň) those are my faces.. thank you guys for all the effort but I'm going to give up | 15:27 |
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| posse | take care and keep coding! see ya | 15:28 |
| SpecR | btw, in case of non-success is there a way to roll back to windows CE or the unit is left unusable?¿ | 15:28 |
| F22 | giving up? | 15:28 |
| posse | yeah, tried everything | 15:28 |
| F22 | i missed the description of your original problem. were you getting the screen freeze on haret? | 15:29 |
| posse | yeah at this point: http://pastebin.com/GMAdyqQD | 15:29 |
| posse | doesn't matter which files I use, always at the same point :/ | 15:30 |
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| F22 | damn browser just crashed. | 15:31 |
| posse | why are u using IE? | 15:31 |
| F22 | no, i'm using firefox | 15:31 |
| F22 | lol | 15:31 |
| posse | use chrome | 15:32 |
| F22 | i think i may once google finishes sandboxing flash. | 15:32 |
| SpecR | Sirs can android be rolled back on failure? | 15:33 |
| F22 | nand can't. | 15:33 |
| posse | ? dunno what that is either but sounds cool. but hey, i'm watching a guide on youtube - last resort and theDeadCPU is hosting ;) | 15:33 |
| F22 | haret doesn't touch the windows mobile install. | 15:33 |
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| F22 | so unless you're using the experimental nand build, you can just restart back into windows mobile. | 15:34 |
| F22 | haret actually runs from within windows mobile and then replaces windows mobile with linux. so the haret install requires windows mobile to stay on your handset to work. | 15:35 |
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| F22 | by replace, i mean in RAM, not ROM. | 15:36 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all ! | 15:37 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hellor arrrghhhh | 15:37 |
| F22 | so every time you restart your phone, you'll be back in windows mobile. | 15:37 |
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| arrrghhh | that posse guy still never booted? oy ve. | 15:41 |
| F22 | hmmm.... the startup file i'm seeing for topaz has sensor=topaz in it. | 15:41 |
| F22 | not his, the default one for xdandroid. | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | his had it to i thought | 15:41 |
| F22 | i'm sorry, you're right. | 15:41 |
| F22 | it did. | 15:41 |
| F22 | my bad. | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | although he pasted an old startup supposedly... | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno that guy was all over the place, kinda hard to help people like that. | 15:42 |
| F22 | yep, well he left. | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | his loss :P | 15:43 |
| F22 | never seen an error like his before. | 15:43 |
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| F22 | yep, his loss. | 15:44 |
| buzz_ | hello i partitioned my SD the other day, and decided to try a different, xdandroid.....it failed so i formatted and re-partitioned, but now it says: failed to mount sd card cannot continue....did i i format wrong/ | 15:45 |
| F22 | SpecR: Did that answer your question? | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: you only need to format the card as FAT32 for xdandroid | 15:46 |
| buzz_ | i tried that, but when i did so i didnt have access to it in the droid, for music and downloads | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: format it with the hp tool | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | or the panasonic tool | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | or gparted | 15:47 |
| buzz_ | ok ill try it and report back] | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | basically anything but the built-in windows or winmo utilties. | 15:47 |
| kwoodyusa | buzz: i had the same problem... the HP tool cleared it right up for me | 15:48 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hi | 15:49 |
| SpecR | F22: well, my conclusion is ¨"guys here think we are all coders" :) | 15:49 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | the new firmware is good ? | 15:49 |
| F22 | i have a new class 10 micro sd card coming in the mail...i'm thinking about playing around with an ext2 build of xdandroid on the old card to see if there is any speed gain from the reduced file system overhead. | 15:49 |
| SpecR | im linux sysadm, so Ill read some more before even trying | 15:50 |
| buzz_ | ok if my linux g parted doesnt do it, ill try hp tool, would that be from HP.com? | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: let me link you to it | 15:51 |
| * SpecR & | 15:51 | |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: http://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe | 15:51 |
| buzz_ | alright, | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | finding it on hp's website would take days. google is instant gratification :D | 15:52 |
| buzz_ | ok i saved it im copying my files | 15:52 |
| F22 | SpecR: lol. easy answer is that yes you can back out of xdandroid since it doesn't touch win mo in the rom. every time you reboot you will be back in win mo. yes, getting started requires a not insignificant amount of technical knowledge, although as the project advances the amount of knowledge required drops. if this were a commercial product, it would not be ready for release to "normal" people. | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | who you callin normal. | 15:57 |
| buzz_ | i feel like a moron.....it worked thank you arrrrghhhh and specr | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | np | 15:57 |
| buzz_ | ok now i have a bigger Q. is there a way to install Droid on the system memory? or like a dual rom? | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | no | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | well | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | not entirely. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | there's a dual-boot app called gen.y but we don't support it. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | and if you want full nand, winmo disappears. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | and our nand isn't truly full. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | oh and you have a raph, so no nand for you :P | 15:59 |
| F22 | lol | 16:00 |
| buzz_ | oh i tried it, it has to wait til you boot up into WinMo | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | er maybe you're not on a raph, not sure | 16:00 |
| F22 | buzz, what type of handset did you say you had? | 16:00 |
| buzz_ | tilt 2 | 16:01 |
| F22 | ahh, rhod 300. | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh so you can do nand. | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't recommend it | 16:02 |
| buzz_ | what is nand? | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | what you're talking about basically | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | flashing the phone to android | 16:02 |
| F22 | nand is the flashable ROM. | 16:02 |
| buzz_ | oooh ok, i might try at some other point, but now that you guys helped me with the cardim good, i might do the "nand" when the project is at 100% | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | good idea :D | 16:04 |
| F22 | yep | 16:04 |
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| buzz_ | the cam is no biggie i dont take many pics, but im just waiting on the headphones to work | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | don't hold your breath :P | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | it works on the blackstone, so in theory we can just use their code | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't think anyone with enough knowledge has really taken a good look. | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | surprised acl hasn't. he probably just doesn't care about the 3.5mm jack :P | 16:05 |
| F22 | headphones are an rpc/adsp issue... | 16:05 |
| buzz_ | does the blackstone require the adapter like the tilt 2 / touch pro 2? | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: not all do | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | my tp2 has a 3.5mm jack. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | all the CDMA tp2's do AFAIK. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | (all, as in 2 models. rhod400/500) | 16:06 |
| buzz_ | well thats nice, it would be nice to have that instead of needing the adapter | 16:06 |
| XirXes | the blackstone has a headphone jack always | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | as does my lovely rhod400 | 16:06 |
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| F22 | this is one of the reasons the devs want wistilt2's adsp tables so badly... | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't get why he hasn't committed them yet. | 16:07 |
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| arrrghhh | where the hell is that guy? i miss him so. | 16:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | OH GOD THE MUNCHIES | 16:07 |
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| XirXes | it wouldnt be so bad if the htc headphones werent all shit | 16:08 |
| buzz_ | is it possible to pull them out of his builds? | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: his builds? they don't exist. | 16:08 |
| XirXes | wis has kept his source close to his chest | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | he shared the compiled binaries tho :P | 16:08 |
| XirXes | he only commits when he feels its good and ready | 16:08 |
| buzz_ | but why? does everyone not have the same goal? | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | well. he has had some issues committing his code. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: yes... | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | he contributes to our repo's. | 16:09 |
| F22 | he has speakerphone mic fixed in his builds, he hasn't actually fixed the headphones. what we need is the adsp info to turn them on and off. he has qualcomm's docs on that stuff. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | but he's run into issues committing some code, so i think he's been reluctant lately. | 16:09 |
| F22 | but there are legal reasons why he can't just give those docs to us. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just glad qualcomm let him do anything | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | because they could've said he can't work on this project at all. | 16:10 |
| XirXes | has he been on since before thanksgiving? | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 16:10 |
| F22 | Xirxes: no. :( | 16:10 |
| buzz_ | really? aaah i didn't know that i kind of figured it would be open source like these | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | that brief time he popped in before thanksgiving was his last logon. | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: well his code is part of ours, when he commits it :P | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | but none of his code is available until he does so. he doesn't have his own tree or something that's publically available. | 16:11 |
| buzz_ | oh alright, im just trying to learn the whole thing | 16:11 |
| F22 | linux is open source, android is open source, the hardware components we're trying to get it to run on and their docs isn't entirely... | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | exactly the problem. | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | we don't have hardware specs | 16:11 |
| buzz_ | ooh ok, as in like manufacturer? | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea htc | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | qualcomm | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | broadcom etc | 16:12 |
| XirXes | 2.3 came out today. i wonder if stine is already playing with it | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: aosp isn't out | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | just sdk | 16:12 |
| XirXes | oh i see | 16:12 |
| XirXes | bummer. few more days then | 16:12 |
| buzz_ | oooh ya true, oh and i think the updates are kaput, i updated froyo then no signal bars, i got it back but why did it/ | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | I just made a sandwich out of Bread, Chicken, Tacomeat, Cheese and Pasta. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 16:14 |
| buzz_ | i mean its no biggie 2.1 works fine, thats a sandwhich? sounds like a stoner meal | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | 2.2.1 works better than ANY other build we have. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | frx03 is teh awesome. | 16:15 |
| F22 | buzz: did you remove your data.img when you tried to upgrade to froyo? | 16:15 |
| buzz_ | no should i have? cause it seem even copying it, froyo seems to make a new one with a fresh start? | 16:16 |
| F22 | it does? well maybe it's a startup utility thing. | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | F22: it's not. | 16:18 |
| buzz_ | hhmmm either way, it works im ok, you guys have done amazing work | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: typically when you move between system images you need a new data.img. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | basically you delete (or rename) the old one and boot again. a new one will get created. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | i say rename, because it's not required that you create a new one, just recommended. | 16:18 |
| buzz_ | oooh ok | 16:18 |
| F22 | yes, what he said. back up anything you don't want to lose first. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | lots of odd things can happen. i moved between an unsigned and a signed build, i had nothing but force closes until i deleted my data.img | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | titanium backup ftw :D | 16:19 |
| buzz_ | i make a backup every day or so by copying the whole contents of the card | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | buzz_: what happens when you need to blast out the data.img? | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | you're starting from square one with android then. | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | no apps, no customizations... fresh build basically. | 16:20 |
| buzz_ | oooh ok, where is the actrual FS stored, like all the apps and personalizations? | 16:20 |
| F22 | data.img :P | 16:20 |
| buzz_ | really? so i can just copy that from the card instead of copying the whole card? | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | you can | 16:22 |
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| arrrghhh | but it doesn't do a lot of good backing all of it up. | 16:22 |
| buzz_ | thats way easier.....not to mention faster | 16:22 |
| F22 | yes, aside from startup.txt and froyo.user.conf. | 16:23 |
| buzz_ | so just those? | 16:23 |
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| arrrghhh | well it's up to you | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | backup all of it, can't hurt anything. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | just takes up a lot of space :P | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few things that change frequently | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | some things that change less frequently | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | and others that don't change at all. | 16:24 |
| buzz_ | true........now why does it create rec files? | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | fsck disk checks | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | i've got a fix for ya... | 16:24 |
| buzz_ | ok | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | open your froyo.user.conf file and put this in the customcommands section | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | "rm -f /sdcard/*.rec" | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | you'll never see 'em again. | 16:25 |
| buzz_ | oh kool thank you | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | certainly | 16:26 |
| F22 | i never had to do that since it was already in mine. | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | is there a build that has that included? | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | that should be included in all builds. | 16:27 |
| F22 | pulled it off of the xdandroid file repo. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | there's bundles there? | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea there are. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | fancy | 16:27 |
| F22 | yes, although the bundles aren't updated all that often. | 16:27 |
| F22 | heh | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | blame stinebd | 16:28 |
| F22 | not a big deal, i gather there's a reason why he doesn't advertise it, so he doesn't get badgered with support Q's. ;) | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:28 |
| F22 | anybody with a clue can just update the kernel and rootfs themselves. | 16:29 |
| buzz_ | well you must not mind, i mean you put up with my stupid Q's | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | that's what we're here for | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | buffers to the devs basically :P | 16:30 |
| buzz_ | aaaah i see. | 16:30 |
| F22 | speak for yourself, i'm slumming... :P :P :P | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:30 |
| buzz_ | as far as the phone itself, does data, text, and calls work inside xdandroid OS? | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | mostly | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | there's hiccups | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | data drops | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | cell radio flakes | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | all sorts of fun things. | 16:31 |
| F22 | i haven't noticed any data drops. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't meant to replace winmo, so don't expect it to :P | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | F22: do you read the forums? ;) | 16:32 |
| F22 | data has been the single most consistent thing on my phone. | 16:32 |
| F22 | lol, every so often. | 16:32 |
| buzz_ | haha, i think i can deal with it, i wasn't expect perfection right off it takes time like anything else | 16:32 |
| buzz_ | i just got my tilt from my aunt and havent hooked it up yet i wanted hacks and of fun things first ^_^ | 16:33 |
| F22 | sometimes, if the phone is behaving flaky, like when it desperately needs to have a new data.img, data won't work from boot up. but i've found that if it works when the phone initially comes up, it's pretty solid. | 16:33 |
| buzz_ | i do, but some things are rather difficult to find | 16:33 |
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| F22 | phone calls, particularly incoming calls seem more tempermental, although i haven't experienced any problems with recently. but there are generally more complaints on this one. | 16:35 |
| buzz_ | thats fine with me i hardly use the calling part namely web and text | 16:35 |
| F22 | wifi there are lots of complaints about, same goes for gps...they work...but there are often issues. | 16:35 |
| F22 | that might be what people mean by data...3G is good...wifi...flaky. | 16:36 |
| buzz_ | well wifi works like a charm, except when i update | 16:36 |
| F22 | cool | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | you must update the modules file with the zimage. | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | they go hand-in-hand | 16:37 |
| F22 | *shrugs* i have good 3G service and no wifi router at home. | 16:37 |
| F22 | so i've never tried to use it. | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't use wifi either. | 16:38 |
| buzz_ | i see how 3g, and all that goes in a month when i get my Gocard, so ill see if it works with the GoPhone | 16:38 |
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| buzz_ | next thing to try: iPhone | 16:40 |
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| stinebd | ginnnnnnngerbread! | 17:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 17:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | It has Norwegian keyboard layout on stock<3 | 17:30 |
| stinebd | nobody likes norway be quiet | 17:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | True. | 17:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | But it has Swedish and such too | 17:31 |
| stinebd | don't be offended i was just kidding | 17:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | I don't get offended ;) | 17:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | And I get jokes :p | 17:31 |
| F22 | no AOSP yet, just the SDK and a 374 page user manual. :P | 17:33 |
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| TheDeadCPU | There is a rom working on the Wilfire | 17:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | Someone ported the SDK to it lol | 17:36 |
| F22 | the user manual is like a giant tease. | 17:37 |
| F22 | damn, htc didn't top the best smartphone list for any of the US's big 4 carriers according to Consumer Reports. Samsung took first place on all of them, tying with Moto's Droid X on Verizon and the Iphone on AT&T. HTC needs to worry less about windows phone 7 and more about maintaining its position in the much larger android market. | 17:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meh, consumer Reports. | 17:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | I don't know, but I don't trust them like I used to. | 17:43 |
| crispee | I think Consumer Reports was bought out by M$ | 17:43 |
| crispee | ;) | 17:44 |
| F22 | lol, no windows phone topped the list. | 17:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Microsoft, hardly. Apple, maybe. | 17:44 |
| crispee | they're waiting to make their move with win7 | 17:44 |
| F22 | i'm surprised they called at&t a tie between apple and samsung. | 17:44 |
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| F22 | i was expecting them to just give it to apple. | 17:45 |
| crispee | i find the iProducts too restrictive | 17:45 |
| crispee | I'm starting to put iTunes on the same list as the AOL CD's in the early 2000's | 17:46 |
| F22 | in terms of hardware, samsung seems to have htc beat right now. it's just that htc's sense ui is superior to samsung's touch wiz, and htc also has a far better track record then samsung when it comes to os updates. | 17:46 |
| crispee | isn't google using samsung as their next phone? | 17:46 |
| crispee | to release? | 17:47 |
| F22 | yup | 17:47 |
| F22 | nexus s. | 17:47 |
| F22 | dec 16th | 17:47 |
| crispee | ooh nexus s | 17:47 |
| crispee | hehe | 17:47 |
| F22 | only single core though, not the dual core that many were hoping/expecting. | 17:47 |
| crispee | kind of a batty name | 17:47 |
| CoolSilver | Not to mention htc ability to be completely open to user hacking | 17:47 |
| CoolSilver | I am waiting on a dual core. Either the droid t2 or lg | 17:48 |
| F22 | i want dual core wxga. | 17:48 |
| crispee | i want a phone that answers txt's and calls for me... :P | 17:49 |
| crispee | man dual core on a phone, my PC doesn't have that yet... but it does have two cpu's | 17:50 |
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| F22 | not sure i like the contour display thing on the phone. it certainly looks odd from the side. who knows, maybe i'll fall in love with it if i try it. at first glance however it looks like a gimmick. | 17:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Inb4 PS3 fanboy wants a Cell processor. | 18:00 |
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| arrrghhh | F22: it looks like it would be really comfortable in your hands. | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | *looks* like.... | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | crispee: your PC has two procs? what, dual PIII's? lol | 18:29 |
| F22 | i don't know, my tp2 is already comfortable in my hands. now maybe if it were 5 inches like the streak i might need some sort of ergonomic way to grip it in one hand. but my hands aren't that big and i don't have the slightest issue with the feel of the tp2. | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't either. | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | but our phones also have full qwerty kbds | 18:31 |
| F22 | easy solution, put qwerty kbds back on all the android phones. :P | 18:32 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | problem solved! | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | man i wish | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | that would make my selection process WAY easier. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | it seems a lot of people don't like physical keyboards tho | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing because of form factor... | 18:33 |
| F22 | is it even samoled? | 18:33 |
| F22 | it doesn't say. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | nexus S? | 18:33 |
| F22 | yes. | 18:33 |
| F22 | i'd be surprised if it wasn't. but nowhere in the product desc do i see mention of a super amoled panel. | 18:34 |
| F22 | A brighter screen with higher contrast means colors are incredibly vibrant, text is crisp at any size, and luminance is up to 1.5x higher than conventional LCD displays. <--- marketing speak for super amoled perhaps? :P | 18:35 |
| F22 | i don't have an issue with the form factor, i have no problem stuffing the tp2 in my pocket. i would love for a 4 or even 4.3 inch htc phone with a kbd to be produced. | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | i think the tp2 is a great sized phone | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | just needs better internals/better screen. | 18:38 |
| F22 | htc doesn't make them larger than 3.7 with a kbd. sammy has the epic on sprint at 4 inches. | 18:38 |
| F22 | moto like htc is rather timid. nothing bigger than 3.7 with kbd. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | i played with the epic | 18:39 |
| F22 | i would like the tp2 to be a little wider, like the iphone. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | still not sold. | 18:39 |
| F22 | tp2's screen is too narrow for my taste. | 18:39 |
| F22 | widescreen is nice for tv's, but i don't like it for monitors (unless i have two) or phones. | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | two phones | 18:40 |
| F22 | i don't like 16:9 or 5:3 displays | 18:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | 4 phones. :P | 18:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | Er, 3. | 18:43 |
| F22 | i like the iphone's 3:2 more. | 18:46 |
| F22 | it makes browsing the web more enjoyable. | 18:47 |
| F22 | the streak just got froyo, i'd like to hold one at try it out one of these days... | 18:49 |
| stinebd | and the iphone's groundbreaking lithium polymer battery lets you surf the web on that enjoyable screen for even longer! | 18:49 |
| F22 | lol | 18:49 |
| F22 | not an iphone fan, just don't like the entire industry's move to narrower screens even as they call them "wider". | 18:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | I do; imagine using a 4.3 inch screen in portrait with a 3:2 aspect ratio. | 18:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Little hard to type. | 18:52 |
| F22 | that's why it should have a keyboard. :D | 18:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, too many people are obsessed with thin phones. | 18:54 |
| F22 | true that, and that's unfortunate in my humble opinion. | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's the problem | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | people want the incredibly thin form factor | 18:58 |
| stinebd | i like mine thick and long | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | and don't care enough about the keyboard like our crazy asses dol | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | do* | 18:58 |
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| JesusFreak316 | 21: 9 stinebd? | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | :P | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | With a HW keyboard? That's what you meant, right? | 19:00 |
| stinebd | yes, hard > soft | 19:02 |
| F22 | lol | 19:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Epic win. | 19:02 |
| F22 | i read a thread recently with people complaining that htc's phones weren't narrow enough, they wanted true 16:9's instead of 5:3's for maximum slimness and to get rid of "annoying" black bars while watching vids. um, whatever. | 19:04 |
| F22 | i clearly come from a different planet then they do. :P | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | everyone has their own ideas of what the best phone is | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | just look at the arguments we've had over button and keyboard layout. | 19:06 |
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| stinebd | what arguments? | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | oh, y'know. | 19:10 |
| stinebd | gonna need to update init.rc again for ginger | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | those little tiffs we've had. | 19:10 |
| F22 | i spend far more time reading text than i do watching videos. i want efficient viewing of large amounts of text. and i feel rather cramped by the narrowness of the tp2 when browsing the web. how about a wxga 1280x800 compromise? that's 16:10. | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if i could see text that small F22 :P | 19:11 |
| stinebd | i can't wait till you guys get to use this | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Then zoom stinebd. :) | 19:12 |
| F22 | get to use what? gingerbread? :D | 19:12 |
| stinebd | launcher still slow | 19:13 |
| wexi | Hi, that's my first visit to this channel. I can see some of xdandroid key developers -- hence, let me extend my thanks for turning my boring WinMO Tilt2 into an exciting Android | 19:13 |
| F22 | i'll download it as soon as you put it up. | 19:13 |
| F22 | :P | 19:13 |
| stinebd | the text select thing will alleviate the problem of not having an action button | 19:14 |
| stinebd | oh btw i saw you guys talking about the ns earlier | 19:15 |
| stinebd | it does indeed have a samoled http://www.google.com/nexus/#!/tech-specs | 19:15 |
| stinebd | word is, that's the only reason google partnered with samsung :P | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | Anti-fingerprint display coating | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | interesting. | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:16 |
| stinebd | twitter not listed in the software section | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | damnit wtf | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | no mention of angry birds either. | 19:16 |
| stinebd | probably not supporeed | 19:16 |
| wexi | Question: On Tilt2 the camera, bt and mic in speakerphone don't work. Where lies the problem? Lack of HTC support info? | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 19:16 |
| stinebd | supported* | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | mic in speakerphone is "fixed" | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | we just need the commit. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | bt & camera are a beast, but camera seems painfully close to getting fixed. | 19:17 |
| F22 | lol, samsung's pre-galaxy s products have been rather crappy...and their support abominable. but samsung does have good r&d. | 19:17 |
| F22 | anti-fingerprint coating sounds interesting. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | and htc hasn't given us ANY support info as you put it wexi .... | 19:17 |
| stinebd | more importantly, samsung has the only stockpile of super amoled screens | 19:18 |
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| arrrghhh | indeed. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | and most of the regular amoled too | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | they're just hoarding | 19:18 |
| F22 | they invented them. | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | like Reefermattness is on the blazn build. | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | hoarder | 19:18 |
| F22 | advantage of the being the patent holder. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | htc's amoled mess with the n1 screwed that relationship bad | 19:18 |
| Reefermattness | <=== just got his pc back up from HD failure :) | 19:19 |
| Reefermattness | now to instlal mint 10 | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol what's up reef | 19:19 |
| Reefermattness | install | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | breakin shite eh | 19:19 |
| Reefermattness | as always | 19:19 |
| F22 | and the htc droid incredible....that was a mess too. | 19:19 |
| Reefermattness | break more than i fix :) | 19:19 |
| F22 | verizon could have easily sold twice as many, people were waiting lines for weeks to get them. | 19:19 |
| F22 | samsung screwed htc though. | 19:20 |
| wexi | hmm... lack of HTC support... maybe a call for bombarding the with emails is needed on xandroid project page | 19:21 |
| stinebd | um | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | wexi: why would a manufacturer support this project? | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | it won't make them any money. if anything, it would hurt their bottom line. | 19:21 |
| stinebd | hell the only reason (probably) google hasn't c&d'd us is that our port is so junky that it forces people to buy real android devices | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:22 |
| F22 | lol | 19:22 |
| wexi | so everything you got is by reverse engineering? that's impressive | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | basically. very impressive indeed. | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | we got some jump start help from all the work that went into the vogue. | 19:24 |
| F22 | i doubt google would care, . we inflate google's ad numbers. htc or qualcomm on the other hand... | 19:24 |
| stinebd | they'd care if xdandroid had more users | 19:25 |
| stinebd | cyanogenmod proved that | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | they sent c&d's to cyanogen? | 19:25 |
| F22 | true, but cyanogen didn't get shut down. they compromised. | 19:25 |
| stinebd | for the google apps | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | didn't know that. | 19:25 |
| stinebd | not so much a compromise as a workaround | 19:25 |
| F22 | fair enough, a workaround. | 19:26 |
| wexi | cyanogen doesn't support Tilt2 :-( | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | it kinda does. | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | not directly tho, no. | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | how could it? | 19:26 |
| stinebd | magic? | 19:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | CM only is for native android devices; neopeek did port it to our devices but it's not as easy to install as xdandroid. | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha thanks for filling in the blanks JesusFreak316. | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | always count on you for that. | 19:27 |
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| wexi | btw, when will 2.3 be available? | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | when it's made available... | 19:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | When google releases it to AOSP. | 19:28 |
| stinebd | you guys don't have it yet?? | 19:28 |
| * stinebd snickers | 19:28 | |
| F22 | ask stinebd... ;) | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: you're feeling especially evil today. | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | i guess all launch announcement days are like holidays to you | 19:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, ask him, he'll lead you down about 16 virus filled rabbit trails because that's who he is. | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | holidays for cruelty! | 19:28 |
| stinebd | are you insinuating that i distribute viruses? | 19:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | No, just that you woulld link to one if given the chance. | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | ouch. | 19:29 |
| stinebd | i don't think i would | 19:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok then. | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea, you're malicious but not to a point of damaging a random noob's system. | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | sure, you'd jump at the chance to damage my system, but not some random noob :P | 19:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | True. | 19:31 |
| stinebd | oh hmm | 19:31 |
| stinebd | looking at the face, it seems ns has no trackpad/ball | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | no | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | there's a touch area tho | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | i believe | 19:31 |
| stinebd | i see the buttons, that's all | 19:31 |
| stinebd | (clearly touch sensors) | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea. | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | nvm. | 19:32 |
| stinebd | think i'll stick with the n1 | 19:32 |
| stinebd | considering it cost almost as much as my car and i have a 2 year warranty on it | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | i think i'll stick with my.... ah crap. | 19:32 |
| F22 | with dual cores and honeycomb right around the corner, not sure i'd want to jump at this... | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | i've waited this long lol | 19:34 |
| stinebd | interesting battery marks | 19:34 |
| stinebd | Talk time6 hours10 hours | 19:34 |
| stinebd | Standby time (max)428 hours290 hours | 19:34 |
| stinebd | 1st is ns, 2nd is n1 | 19:34 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:35 |
| wexi | btw, in speakerphone mode the mic isn't working yet (Tilt2). Just checked. Using the very latest stuff... | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | so better standby, worse talk time? wtf. | 19:35 |
| stinebd | yeah | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | wexi: i answered that question for ya. | 19:35 |
| stinebd | ginger that much better with battery? | 19:35 |
| F22 | sounds like hummingbird is hungrier when it's powered up, but power management is better optimized. | 19:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Talk time's more important to me. 48 hourse of standby time is pretty much ok for me. | 19:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | 200 is overkill for my needs. | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | you don't talk on the phone anyways JesusFreak316. | 19:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know, but I charge my phone every night, so it's more likely it would die from heavy usage than not charging. | 19:36 |
| F22 | anyone know if the new froyo update for the tmobile version of the original magic is 2.3.32? or did they just push out froyo with 2.6.29 on it? htc hasn't released a kernel for it. | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | #xdandroid? | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | :P lol jk | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure. | 19:39 |
| stinebd | g1 got official froyo? | 19:39 |
| F22 | not g1, the mytouch3g. | 19:39 |
| stinebd | oh | 19:39 |
| stinebd | same question then | 19:39 |
| F22 | yes, the original models. not the new ones with the 3.5mm jack. | 19:40 |
| F22 | the new ones are still waiting on an update. | 19:40 |
| F22 | t-mo has promised froyo for their entire mytouch3g line. i was kind of surprised that the originals got it given how little memory they have. | 19:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Good on them. | 19:45 |
| F22 | probably could have done the same for the g1 had they thought it worthwhile. | 19:46 |
| F22 | g1 is over 2 years old now though. i can understand them ending support. | 19:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Still, an eclair release at least would be nice. | 19:48 |
| F22 | nice, certainly. cost-effective for t-mobile/htc? not likely. | 19:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Eh, true. | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | if only we all had this phone | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Android_mobile_phone_platform_early_device.jpg | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | i remember seeing that pic when android was still a rumor... bleh. | 19:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | DO WANT. | 19:51 |
| F22 | whatever else we might want to say about htc's slow updates, their update policy is still the best of all the android manufacturers right now. | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 19:52 |
| F22 | all their phones have been fully supported for over a year at least. | 19:52 |
| F22 | samsung's has been abysmal, while motorola's has fallen somewhere in between. | 19:53 |
| F22 | moto makes htc look fast in comparison. | 19:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Was the Moto Cliq EVER updated? | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:53 |
| F22 | and samsung doesn't even bother to try. | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think so | 19:53 |
| F22 | Cliq has 2.1 | 19:56 |
| F22 | i doubt they'll get 2.2 | 19:56 |
| F22 | could be worse, could be a devour....which came out 6 months later and never got a single update. | 19:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:57 |
| F22 | forever 1.6 | 19:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Realy? I thought it was stuck on 1.5 | 19:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is there anything stuck on 1.5 then? | 19:57 |
| F22 | which? | 19:58 |
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| F22 | also depends on where you're from. | 19:59 |
| F22 | in the US, everything but the Devour has gotten or will be updated to 2.x | 19:59 |
| F22 | in other parts of the world, lots of moto phones will be permanently stuck at 1.5. | 20:00 |
| F22 | https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades <--- moto's official updates page | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | The original Galaxy? | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | appears to be stuck on 1.5, with no official update. | 20:01 |
| F22 | i was talking about moto, not samsung there. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 20:01 |
| F22 | samsung as i said earlier has the worst update policy. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | i thought we were talking about if any devices were stuck on 1.5 :P | 20:01 |
| F22 | they don't even bother to try. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:01 |
| F22 | :P | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | seems to be | 20:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Original galaxy? | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | ah crap i'm workin for free now! | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea the i7500 | 20:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wikipedia says it's 1.6. | 20:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Some countries at least. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | 1.5 | 20:02 |
| F22 | it's why i decided not to get the galaxy s. i'll let reefer be our guinea pig on whether samsung has gotten more serious on updates, at least for their flagship phones. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | oh wait | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | i can't read. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | it is time to go home. | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | cya guys on the flip side... | 20:03 |
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| F22 | samsung did do a few 1.6 updates. | 20:03 |
| F22 | behold 2 got 1.6 too, although samsung upset them by promising eclair and then canceling those plans. | 20:04 |
| F22 | apparently samsung used 2.x compatibility as part of their sales pitch. | 20:05 |
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