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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 70 filed... | 08:01 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=70 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, FRX03: Disk errors during booting after shutdown caused by empty battery | 08:01 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 71 filed... | 09:15 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=71 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Wifi error | 09:15 |
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| CharlieTP | hey droids | 13:10 |
| CharlieTP | guess not | 13:11 |
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| MyWay | Hello, Is there anyone here that can bring me happiness? I need help with somes Issues on my Htc Touch pro 2 Rhod500, *I've already read the FAQ'S and look over xdaForum* | 14:16 |
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| MyWay | ... | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | what's your question | 14:33 |
| arrrghhh | i can't guarantee happiness, sorry. | 14:33 |
| MyWay | 1- Can I do something about the reset's, It's too dificult, Sometimes I'm changing some options like wirelless conetions or even calling, and the system goes down | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | it happens | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | make sure you're completely up to date | 14:38 |
| arrrghhh | but resets happen. | 14:38 |
| MyWay | I'm update last ( zimage, rootfs, initrd) | 14:40 |
| MyWay | The older version was more solid | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | system image? | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | so use it. | 14:40 |
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| MyWay | I can't it says that I have to update android.... | 14:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: I was talking to fanjita about this; I guided him to getting everything up to date but he was still getting frequent crashes to Winmo. | 14:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | It was odd though, he has the Sprint TP2 just like you. | 14:43 |
| MyWay | I was triying every cmdline combination | 14:43 |
| MyWay | well it happens | 14:43 |
| MyWay | But I have another question | 14:43 |
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| JesusFreak316 | It was odd though, he has the Sprint TP2 just like you. | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: I was talking to fanjita about this; I guided him to getting everything up to date but he was still getting frequent crashes to Winmo. | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | It was odd though, he has the Sprint TP2 just like you. | 14:44 |
| MyWay | :S | 14:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wait, now there's two of him... | 14:44 |
| MyWay | I have rhod500 but I'm not from Us | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh_ | sorry my laptop is rude | 14:45 |
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| arrrghhh_ | lol | 14:45 |
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| MyWay | Actually I want to use Evdo Rev-A ... but It seems a far dream | 14:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Much better. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | hey i didn't have to ghost him, how nice. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | MyWay, evdo is dead. | 14:46 |
| MyWay | why? | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's not where any provider is going. | 14:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | Do you get many crashes with it on your TP2, arrrghhh? | 14:46 |
| MyWay | I would like to set it up even from a script | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | vz is going with lte, sprint is going to wimax for data. | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | many crashes with what? | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | android? | 14:47 |
| MyWay | But Android is able to manage | 14:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | What else? | 14:47 |
| MyWay | Evdo RevA | 14:47 |
| MyWay | Android is able to manage Evdo Rev-A connections? | 14:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | I was trying to help this guy, fanjita, get it working but it crashed a LOT even with newest everything. | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, you were doing it wrong. | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | :( | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Or he was. :P | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | probably more likely | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | But it's relatively stable for you, right? | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | i mean it crashes, that happens. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use it full time | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | what does that tell you... | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | I told him to, but I don't think he ever formatted. | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | His was crashing every 5 minutes or so. | 14:49 |
| MyWay | I really hate WinMo I'm tired of soft reset it like 10 times a day | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | certain apps will make it crash like crazy | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | so maybe he was downloading something st00pid | 14:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | He was just connecting to wifi, lol. | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | wifi is broken methinks | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | been seeing a lot of peoples whining about it since frx01. | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | it works, but then breaks if you try to disable/re-enable too quickly. | 14:49 |
| MyWay | The older version wasn't that inestable | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but it would kick him into Winmo not break. | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | same diff | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | MyWay, then use that... | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what you want me to tell you dude. | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | once we disabled JIT, so many issues disappeared | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what's up with wifi tho. | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | no body has really stepped up to troubleshoot | 14:50 |
| MyWay | I cant ....... | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is it all device or just RHOD? | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, seems to be all of 'em | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | that are on xdandroid. | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | hd2's are doin their own thing. | 14:51 |
| MyWay | It's android.... It goes down after it ask for a update | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Once classes are over, Thursday, I'll see what I can do. | 14:51 |
| MyWay | I cant avoid that update | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | If I can find my phone. :P | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | MyWay, wtf are you talking about the update app? | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | where you click a button and it updates? | 14:52 |
| * JesusFreak316 wants his HD2. | 14:52 | |
| MyWay | I doesnt even set up the desk enviroment | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i can help you dude. you're not making any sense, or bothering to answer my questions. | 14:52 |
| MyWay | No | 14:53 |
| MyWay | It ask the update at the android start | 14:53 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh marked bug 71 as a duplicate of bug 69. | 14:54 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=71 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Wifi error | 14:54 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=69 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, wifi error: unable to scan | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | MyWay, if you're using the startup utility, we don't support that | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | or encourage its use. | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Define android start. | 14:55 |
| MyWay | It's no the startup update | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:56 |
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| arrrghhh | some people's children. | 14:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | He's probably just foreign. | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | i know he is | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | from Venezula | 15:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I was tipped off when he said "Can someone bring me happiness?" :P | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | Venezuela sorry | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol yea | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | that was a big clue :P | 15:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | VUVUZELA!! | 15:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Win. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/04/michael-jackson-the-experience-ds-pirates-treated-to-billie-je/ | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome. | 15:03 |
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| fildarion | hi | 16:16 |
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| arrrghhh | how.... damn. | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to tell that man howdy. | 16:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, who here can ban dhean_diana before some noob downloads the link and spams us more? | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | not i | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | dude came and left real quick | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what good banning will do.... | 16:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Grr, I was hoping you could 'cause you're the only person who posts regularly. :P | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | might be a good idea to have netripper clean that link from the logs. | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Can you not ip ban? | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have any privileges. | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | i think ninex gave me rights to mute people in -chat lol | 16:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | I mean for whoever does, stinbd etc. | 16:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is that what voicing is? | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't think i ever figured out who has rights in htc-linux | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it depends on how the room is configured. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | some rooms everyone is muted unless they have voice, +v | 16:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | I would think dcordes does, since he seems to be the head poncho of htc-linux. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | ask him, i'm not sure. | 16:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | He intimidates me. :P | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | damnit, i'm supposed to intimidate people. | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'll do it htough. | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meh, typo. | 16:25 |
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| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU, | 16:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | I did it. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | i see that | 16:27 |
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| F22 | evening arrrghhh | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | how are you sir F22 | 21:16 |
| F22 | not bad, playing with streaming pandora through the headset. | 21:17 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: you get a chance to test my gingerbread build yet? | 21:17 |
| F22 | lol | 21:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sometime I'm going to quote you out of context on the forums, stinebd, and create chaos. | 21:22 |
| F22 | ok, so snd.force_headset on rhodium works only if in a call with headset engaged during haret turnover. on my handset there doesn't appear to be any difference between a setting of 1 and 2. | 21:54 |
| F22 | according to the kernel code 1 is autodetect, 2 is always on. heh. | 21:55 |
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| mark_ | is there a way to remap the buttons in 2.2.1 with the htc fuze? i want them to be the same layout as the windows mobile button map | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | hack up the rootfs | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | but that's not a very good option, as you'll have to do it every time the rootfs gets updated. | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | although i thought we updated the keymap to be more like winmo | 21:58 |
| mark_ | there's no settings option to do it? i don't want to mess up my fuze and i'm too poor to buy a new one | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | and a bunch of people complained | 21:58 |
| mark_ | i'd really like the lock button to both lock and unlock the screen and for the home button to take me home | 21:59 |
| F22 | i believe on the fuze the buttons are all in the navi_pad key layout. so it's actually a bit easier than the rhod. you just need to modify that one file, then edit the init script to use it. | 22:00 |
| mark_ | can i just edit that on my computer with notepad? is that file on the micro sd card itself? | 22:01 |
| F22 | they're in the rootfs | 22:01 |
| mark_ | and that's on the micro sd card, not the device itself, correct? | 22:02 |
| F22 | yes. | 22:03 |
| mark_ | alright. thanks for the help f22 and arrghhh. i really appreciate it | 22:03 |
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| stinebd | well he'll either give up or be back for more help | 22:04 |
| F22 | lol | 22:04 |
| F22 | those were my thoughts too... ;) | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | ah well | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | everyone has their own idea of how things should be laid out... | 22:05 |
| stinebd | yes | 22:05 |
| stinebd | and one of them is right | 22:05 |
| stinebd | (the guy with commit access) | 22:06 |
| F22 | lol | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | that bastard is ALWAYS right. | 22:07 |
| F22 | i wish the rhod buttons were all in the "navi_pad" file, instead they're split because some of them are microp. that means if we want to make alternate button layouts we need to make 9 or more copies of every version. feh. | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | do eeeeeet | 22:07 |
| stinebd | keyboard is microp, face keys are gpio | 22:07 |
| stinebd | (as far as i could tell) | 22:07 |
| F22 | raph, yes. | 22:08 |
| F22 | rhod is split. | 22:08 |
| stinebd | no, rhod | 22:08 |
| stinebd | raph has its own driver for the face keys | 22:08 |
| stinebd | because of that ridiculous touchpad | 22:08 |
| F22 | end, power and volume are gpio | 22:08 |
| F22 | menu, back and call are microp. | 22:08 |
| stinebd | ah | 22:08 |
| stinebd | good ol' htc | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | likes to keep things simple | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | consistent across revisions too... | 22:09 |
| stinebd | the layout file stupidity is our own fault | 22:09 |
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| stinebd | gotta fix that crap | 22:10 |
| F22 | how is it our fault? | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | it's YOUR fault F22. | 22:10 |
| stinebd | because we implemented it and it's crappy? | 22:10 |
| stinebd | htc didn't do it | 22:10 |
| F22 | we have two layouts for each handset, one navi_pad which is gpio, and microp, which is of course microp. | 22:11 |
| stinebd | they're totally disorganized, most of them have redundant entries, source is missing with a few, and there's a crapton of language kcm's all strewn about the same directory | 22:12 |
| stinebd | don't argue that it's not horrible... | 22:12 |
| stinebd | also i'm pretty sure one of them causes eye cancer | 22:13 |
| F22 | lol, ahh...yes...i found a decompiler. i've made sources for all the ones we don't have sources. and i've condensed all the rhod navi_pad's down to one, well two, the second is for making the end button home. | 22:13 |
| F22 | at least one of the raph navi_pad's is also redundant and can be eliminated. | 22:14 |
| stinebd | well decompiling isn't hard (kcm basically just builds it into a quickly mmapable format), but we've lost the comments that were in the originals anyway, and those comments help a lot | 22:14 |
| F22 | i'm not too worried about the rhods's. I've been going through them all and added comments back in, although things have bogged down with some of the foreign language models...i've enlisted help from native speakers regarding the sensible key mappings. | 22:17 |
| F22 | nearly done with that. | 22:17 |
| stinebd | be careful with the natives | 22:17 |
| stinebd | they'll have you add some character that means anus, while chuckling at you behind your back | 22:17 |
| F22 | lol | 22:18 |
| F22 | where i've been unsure, i've asked for pics of the keyboard.. ;) | 22:19 |
| F22 | although htc has drawings of them in the appropriate manuals. | 22:19 |
| F22 | i'm not making key maps/layouts for keyboards that we don't currently have in the repo. just fixing up what we already have. | 22:21 |
| F22 | if someone really wants a russian key map/layout set, they can make their own. :P | 22:22 |
| F22 | now i'm pontificating over syntax for command line key layout changes. i've been using b4=HOME in my test rootfs's, but that might not be the best syntax to use if a kernel option gets added to make the power button behave as home and we also want to use that option to make the end button power. | 22:25 |
| F22 | oh, and yes, there were a lot of extra keys in the maps that didn't exist on the handsets. i've removed them. there was even a comment about some non-existant keys being required to make the soft phone dialer work. i removed them and my software dialer still works fine. :P | 22:31 |
| F22 | i've done the fuze too, but have only begun to look at the other raph models. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | gotta fix 'em all? | 22:38 |
| F22 | i may just commit the rhod's first as a group, maybe along with the fuze, so they don't get held up while i look at the raph, and maybe the kovsky. | 22:39 |
| F22 | i think i'll announce a new test rootfs on xda in the next day or two once i finalize the italian and french keymaps. | 22:42 |
| F22 | then wait for feedback, and if everything is good, commit. | 22:43 |
| crispee | j0 | 22:53 |
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| F22 | arrrghhh, i looked into the possibility of making a kernel option to move home to the power button. i have it working, but when power is subsequently assigned to the end button in the rootfs, it isn't as reliable. It works, but there are times when a press doesn't register the first time you press it. Methinks the power button gets its own event and special treatment in the kernel for good reason. | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps so. | 23:04 |
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