| TheDeadCPU | <stinebd> TheDeadCPU: this is for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=609 | 00:13 | 
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| TheDeadCPU | And also, what happened to GlemSom you say? stinebd | 00:14 | 
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 13:38 | 
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 16:04 | 
| Sad0felix | hi mate | 16:10 | 
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| jas_ | hello | 16:18 | 
| jas_ | can someone help me please driver trouble with htc tilt 2 and pdanet | 16:19 | 
| arrrghhh | what are you trying to use pdanet for? | 16:19 | 
| jas_ | tethering cause every time i need internet i have to resetr into windows | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | usb tethering isn't supported yet AFAIK | 16:20 | 
| jas_ | running xdandroid | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | yes, usb tethering isn't supported | 16:20 | 
| arrrghhh | you can use wifi tethering | 16:21 | 
| jas_ | well could be the reason lol thank you | 16:21 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:21 | 
| JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh, does android-wifi-tether from google code work? | 16:22 | 
| jas_ | will it ever be | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | jas_, probably | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | it might even be possible with some fancy adb tricks | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, dunno. | 16:22 | 
| arrrghhh | i think there was a system image change to support native wifi tethering | 16:23 | 
| arrrghhh | but there's also that xdandroid wifi tethering app | 16:23 | 
| jas_ | my problem says driver failed | 16:23 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure why it's not included... | 16:23 | 
| JesusFreak316 | I'm trying android-wired-tether atm. | 16:23 | 
| arrrghhh | wired? | 16:23 | 
| JesusFreak316 | But you said usb tether doesn't work atm? | 16:23 | 
| arrrghhh | i didn't think so | 16:23 | 
| JesusFreak316 | We'll see. | 16:24 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:24 | 
| arrrghhh | you're also using a different device. | 16:24 | 
| jas_ | i thought it worked on an earlier xdandroid build | 16:24 | 
| arrrghhh | evidently wep works on raph | 16:24 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Why wouldn't it? | 16:24 | 
| arrrghhh | lol nothing else usb has ever worked until they got adb working in october | 16:24 | 
| JesusFreak316 | They only got adb working in october? | 16:25 | 
| arrrghhh | well | 16:25 | 
| JesusFreak316 | I thought I've been using it for a while. | 16:25 | 
| arrrghhh | you could do that silly enable activesync before booting trick | 16:25 | 
| JesusFreak316 | I didn't do that. :P | 16:25 | 
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:25 | 
| arrrghhh | we are again talking about different devices. i'm not sure if it applied to all devices or just rhod... | 16:26 | 
| arrrghhh | like i said about the wep thing | 16:26 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, that's what I was thinking. | 16:26 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess that is more important than i thought | 16:26 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Unable to start tethering, please try again. :P | 16:30 | 
| JesusFreak316 | :/ | 16:30 | 
| JesusFreak316 | dnsmasq: failed to bind DHCP server socket: Address already in use | 16:35 | 
| arrrghhh | mmmmmhmmmmm | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | i haven't tried with pdanet | 16:36 | 
| arrrghhh | seems like a crappy way to do it tho | 16:36 | 
| JesusFreak316 | pdanet doesn't work with linux. :( | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | iptables ho? | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:37 | 
| emwe | should i mention that i just got a message from jbruneaux that he managed to get a camera pic from his diamond? ;) | 16:37 | 
| JesusFreak316 | O.o | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | that's going to get copypasta'd everywheres. | 16:37 | 
| emwe | oh eh.. a preview image | 16:37 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Picture message or camera? | 16:37 | 
| emwe | "a preview image" | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | hm | 16:37 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Que? | 16:37 | 
| arrrghhh | who is this jbruneaux? | 16:38 | 
| emwe | working on his cloned linux-msm tree | 16:38 | 
| jas_ | i downloaded 244 gb on a windows tethered connection will never buy home internet again | 16:38 | 
| emwe | work visible when you go to the root-page of the project | 16:38 | 
| arrrghhh | jas_, lol | 16:38 | 
| jas_ | in a month | 16:38 | 
| JesusFreak316 | What's a preview image? | 16:39 | 
| arrrghhh | i hope your carrier doesn't catch on | 16:39 | 
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, i'm assuming when you start the camera you get a preview on the screen before the picture is captured? | 16:39 | 
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| JesusFreak316 | Oh that. Pretty good progress then. | 16:39 | 
| jas_ | me too lol | 16:39 | 
| arrrghhh | progress is progress if it's true :D | 16:40 | 
| arrrghhh | that 'hw3d' fix seems bogus. | 16:40 | 
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| emwe | arrrghhh: that triad8 thingy? | 16:40 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, i think that is his nick | 16:40 | 
| emwe | strangely either i am fooling myself, or it's a tad bit fluent. | 16:41 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:41 | 
| emwe | in launcher even and scrolling. | 16:41 | 
| arrrghhh | hm | 16:42 | 
| emwe | but that really may be just fooling myself. | 16:42 | 
| arrrghhh | i got exact same scores on neocore... if not worse. | 16:42 | 
| JesusFreak316 | When's stinebd gonna make a wired tether? :P | 16:42 | 
| emwe | i reverted anyway ;) | 16:42 | 
| arrrghhh | emwe, yea with that said it didn't seem to hurt that's for sure. | 16:42 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Wired tether just started. O.o | 16:43 | 
| arrrghhh | is this on your raph? | 16:43 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 16:43 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Not showing up in windows though. | 16:43 | 
| jas_ | where do i get the driver for the usb | 16:44 | 
| JesusFreak316 | How would you connect to the android usb tether in windows? | 16:44 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Where would it show up? | 16:44 | 
| arrrghhh | windows should see a new cxn | 16:45 | 
| JesusFreak316 | It should pop up? | 16:45 | 
| arrrghhh | at least that's how it worked from winmo. a new network connection should become available. | 16:45 | 
| arrrghhh | should get some notificiation i would think. not like an autoplay one... | 16:45 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Don't see anything. | 16:46 | 
| arrrghhh | didn't think so | 16:46 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Now I can't disable the tether. | 16:47 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:48 | 
| arrrghhh | look what you have created. | 16:48 | 
| jas_ | lol | 16:48 | 
| JesusFreak316 | dev toools/bad behavior/crash the system server time. | 16:48 | 
| JesusFreak316 | I like that command. :) | 16:48 | 
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| emwe | so, gnight peeps. | 16:49 | 
| arrrghhh | cya emwe | 16:50 | 
| JesusFreak316 | cya | 16:50 | 
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| Sad0felix | hi everyone | 16:54 | 
| Sad0felix | I tried the allmighty ELG 3d lib too | 16:54 | 
| Sad0felix | and got to the same conclusion: it doesn't do really anything better, not for me at least. | 16:54 | 
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| arrrghhh | well y'know what that dude did to find that file right? | 16:55 | 
| Sad0felix | I don't think he wrote it on the forum, so no ... | 16:55 | 
| arrrghhh | well based on what i've read from his posts | 16:56 | 
| arrrghhh | he was digging thru neopeek builds, and found one where the file was different... | 16:56 | 
| Sad0felix | ah, yes | 16:56 | 
| arrrghhh | so if anything, that's an older verison of the file lol who knows. | 16:57 | 
| Sad0felix | what is this neopeek build? I am going to try one on a spare SD I have ... he keeps thanking XDA all the way | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | i wish he would've worked with us | 16:57 | 
| arrrghhh | but he just split off and did his own thing | 16:57 | 
| Sad0felix | I guessed you knew each other, at least before somthing ... | 16:57 | 
| Sad0felix | same old story | 16:57 | 
| Sad0felix | humans | 16:58 | 
| Sad0felix | tsk | 16:58 | 
| Sad0felix | as far as I understand, he takes lots from XDA, hands down, then he tweaks things, maybe adds stuff | 16:58 | 
| arrrghhh | for the most part he just ports other builds to full ext2 partitions | 17:00 | 
| Sad0felix | what's the advantage of part vs file? | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | i think a few of the builds he puts together himself, i don't know too much about what he does. | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | part vs file? | 17:00 | 
| arrrghhh | partition vs ext2 file? | 17:00 | 
| Sad0felix | exactly | 17:01 | 
| arrrghhh | well his builds do seem a little speedier | 17:01 | 
| arrrghhh | i think we do the same thing, just do a mount -o loop on the ext2 system image file | 17:01 | 
| arrrghhh | his is just broken out onto an actual ext2 partition on the card. | 17:01 | 
| Sad0felix | in theory should be pretty much the same ... by thumb rule | 17:02 | 
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:02 | 
| arrrghhh | can't really apply that to anything computer related | 17:02 | 
| arrrghhh | especially when talking about mobile computing ;) | 17:02 | 
| Sad0felix | I mean, bottleneck is SD/phone r/w speed | 17:02 | 
| Sad0felix | or, I would expect that to be | 17:03 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i don't know if there is a difference | 17:03 | 
| arrrghhh | r/w from a looped mount | 17:03 | 
| arrrghhh | or from a directly mounted partition... | 17:03 | 
| Sad0felix | btw | 17:03 | 
| Sad0felix | I wanted to try one because someone shot the BT firework on the forum | 17:04 | 
| Sad0felix | I don't even need it and I expect it to be a lot buggy, also reading posts ther | 17:04 | 
| Sad0felix | just to proof my prejudices :P | 17:05 | 
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| Sad0felix | uhm ... if sleep mode is not declared at startup, what is default choice? | 17:26 | 
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| slim_ | hello all, is there a method to bypass screen alignment screen ? , because my touch screen not work | 17:40 | 
| Sad0felix | I can send you the ts file | 17:41 | 
| Sad0felix | it should bypass it when it finds the file there | 17:41 | 
| Sad0felix | wait | 17:41 | 
| slim_ | thanks Sad0felix | 17:42 | 
| Sad0felix | try adding this to startup.txt first: | 17:42 | 
| Sad0felix | msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 | 17:42 | 
| Sad0felix | I think keyboard should be last in the cmd line | 17:43 | 
| F22 | slim_: you can go into the terminal emulator and type: touch ts-calibration | 17:44 | 
| F22 | that will create an empty file for you | 17:44 | 
| F22 | once that file exists, it won't bother to try and calibrate the screen anymore | 17:45 | 
| Sad0felix | is it enough an empty ts-cal file? | 17:45 | 
| Sad0felix | hep, can't he create it by hand? | 17:46 | 
| F22 | well he said he wanted to bypass it....so an empty one is fine for that. | 17:46 | 
| Sad0felix | nice | 17:46 | 
| slim_ | i create it now and will reboot | 17:46 | 
| Sad0felix | noob question, ho do you get into terminal? | 17:47 | 
| slim_ | yes bypass only until i repair the touch screen | 17:47 | 
| slim_ | Sad0felix: i'm using QtADB application | 17:47 | 
| F22 | in the launcher, click on dev tools | 17:47 | 
| F22 | then scroll down to the bottom. | 17:48 | 
| Sad0felix | Ah, sorry, thought puttin msmvkeyb_toggle on in startup :D | 17:48 | 
| F22 | you should see it. | 17:48 | 
| Sad0felix | thx | 17:48 | 
| F22 | np | 17:49 | 
| Sad0felix | I understood that he couldn't get to android launcher without ts cal | 17:49 | 
| Sad0felix | my fault :D | 17:49 | 
| arrrghhh | Sad0felix, that command is deprecated | 17:58 | 
| arrrghhh | the kernel will ignore it :D | 17:58 | 
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| Sad0felix | lol ... about the "other" build | 18:02 | 
| Sad0felix | yeah, snappy ... but crashes like hell any other thing you do | 18:02 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:03 | 
| Sad0felix | and he even uses glemsom kernels ... | 18:03 | 
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 18:06 | 
| slim_ | F22: i created the file and after reboot the file disappear | 18:06 | 
| arrrghhh | he just has forked his own rootfs | 18:06 | 
| arrrghhh | and system images | 18:06 | 
| Sad0felix | well, I guess he forked it wrong ... can't wake it up from sleep at all, and after 10 to 20 secs of unresponsiveness it just reboots ... | 18:07 | 
| Sad0felix | or, he just doens't test it through ... | 18:07 | 
| F22 | slim, where did you put the file? | 18:08 | 
| F22 | my bad, i should have been more clear about where to put it. it needs to go in /sdcard | 18:09 | 
| slim_ | on the root | 18:09 | 
| slim_ | then is my fault, i'm sorry for that | 18:10 | 
| F22 | touch /sdcard/andboot/ts-calibration | 18:11 | 
| F22 | assuming andboot is your boot directory | 18:12 | 
| arrrghhh | lol yea | 18:13 | 
| arrrghhh | mine's really complicated... | 18:13 | 
| arrrghhh | but i know where to put stuff because i'm the one that made it complex :P | 18:13 | 
| Sad0felix | ahahahha | 18:13 | 
| F22 | o.O Dell is giving people $25 to take an HTC Incredible. Contract required of course. But not a bad deal for 1GHz snapdragon froyo + HTC Sense phone. Too bad it doesn't have the new gpu. i suppose that's why they're giving them away, to make room for the next generation products... | 18:19 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:20 | 
| F22 | six months ago they were the best thing out there and Verizon couldn't keep them in stock. | 18:21 | 
| arrrghhh | c'est la vie | 18:21 | 
| arrrghhh | now they're old junk :P | 18:21 | 
| F22 | i don't think there is any other industry where products become obsolete so fast. | 18:21 | 
| F22 | maybe graphics cards... | 18:21 | 
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:22 | 
| F22 | but i think even graphics cards hold their value for longer. | 18:22 | 
| arrrghhh | the tp2 looks the part | 18:22 | 
| arrrghhh | just doesn't have the specs to back it up lol | 18:22 | 
| F22 | yes, tp2 would hang well with the big boys if we could just upgrade the cpu+ram like in a computer. | 18:23 | 
| arrrghhh | haha right | 18:23 | 
| arrrghhh | shoehorn a hummingbird in there | 18:23 | 
| arrrghhh | F22, i'll give ya $20 to do it :P | 18:24 | 
| F22 | lol | 18:24 | 
| F22 | uhuh | 18:24 | 
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| F22 | i've been debating whether to get my mom a nettop for christmas, or hold off another year until the 10 inch tablets with honeycomb are available and perfected. | 18:26 | 
| arrrghhh | hm | 18:27 | 
| arrrghhh | depends | 18:27 | 
| arrrghhh | tablets seem great for consumption | 18:27 | 
| arrrghhh | so long as you're not needing it to type on basically haha | 18:27 | 
| F22 | my mom has never typed in her life so...i imagine she'll be a two-finger typist. | 18:28 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:28 | 
| F22 | i introduced her to angry birds last night... Mwuhahahahah@ | 18:29 | 
| F22 | She was up all night playing it. :P | 18:29 | 
| F22 | she caught on faster than i did. :-/ | 18:30 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:30 | 
| arrrghhh | i still have not played that game. | 18:30 | 
| F22 | i just downloaded it two nights ago. | 18:30 | 
| F22 | when that post about the old libgles appeared. | 18:31 | 
| F22 | she drained my battery from what had been a full charge. | 18:32 | 
| F22 | i had to bring down the charger and plug it in while she continued to play. | 18:32 | 
| Sad0felix | :D | 18:32 | 
| arrrghhh | does that libgles fix work on the angry birds? | 18:33 | 
| arrrghhh | didn't seem to do diddly squat for my neocore scores | 18:33 | 
| F22 | haven't tried it yet. i had never played any games before on my handset, and i needed to get a feel for the baseline. | 18:34 | 
| arrrghhh | i've never used neocore either | 18:34 | 
| arrrghhh | that was fun | 18:34 | 
| F22 | also downloaded some benchmarks and ran them. | 18:34 | 
| F22 | yup, neocore was one of them. | 18:34 | 
| F22 | also grabbed quadrant which gave me some very questionable results. | 18:34 | 
| arrrghhh | as i've seen, it seems to be THE video fps benchmark tool. | 18:34 | 
| arrrghhh | lol that's what quadrant is good for | 18:34 | 
| arrrghhh | questionable results. | 18:34 | 
| F22 | my tp2 beat the moto droid in quadrant... | 18:35 | 
| F22 | that really left me scratching my head. | 18:35 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:35 | 
| arrrghhh | does it make you feel better? | 18:35 | 
| F22 | got 17.2 in Neocore with a 600 MHz overclock. | 18:36 | 
| F22 | that's with the normal libgles. | 18:36 | 
| F22 | 501 in quadrant. don't trust that one though. | 18:36 | 
| arrrghhh | highest i got was just shy of 19 in neocore. | 18:36 | 
| F22 | LinPack gave me 3.953 MFlops. | 18:37 | 
| Sad0felix | for what it's worth, I didn't find any difference, neither in Angry Birds, nor in Quadrant ... still didn't have time to figure out what neocore is | 18:37 | 
| F22 | BenchmarkPi: 8770 ms. | 18:37 | 
| F22 | An3DBench on the other hand always crashed on the third test it ran. | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | neocore just checks fps ability basically. | 18:37 | 
| arrrghhh | should show 3d rendering abililty empirically | 18:38 | 
| F22 | the An3DBench crashes had me scratching my head. I wish I knew what that 3rd test was. | 18:39 | 
| F22 | the first two were single texturing and multi texturing... | 18:39 | 
| F22 | i know angry birds sometimes crashes on me when it runs out of memory. | 18:40 | 
| F22 | but that seems to be happening less and less on me strangely enough. | 18:40 | 
| F22 | it was most acute when i first installed it. | 18:41 | 
| F22 | haven't looked at the logs for An3DBench yet, but the oom errors in the logs for angry birds were interesting. | 18:42 | 
| Sad0felix | sorry for talking about something else, just ignore if I am bothering | 18:43 | 
| Sad0felix | I think we should take something from this guy here, Neopeek | 18:43 | 
| arrrghhh | uhm.. what? | 18:44 | 
| Sad0felix | dunno | 18:44 | 
| Sad0felix | lol | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | he benefitted from all of the work on xdandroid | 18:44 | 
| Sad0felix | I know | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | not much we can take from him, if anything he took from us... | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | i wish he would work with us | 18:44 | 
| Sad0felix | but maybe is time to take something back | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | he was working on a nand flash for his diam | 18:44 | 
| arrrghhh | haven't heard about it in a while | 18:45 | 
| arrrghhh | probably bricked the hell out of it lol | 18:45 | 
| Sad0felix | lol, very possibly | 18:45 | 
| Sad0felix | however | 18:45 | 
| Sad0felix | after trimming A LOT out of the startup.txt | 18:45 | 
| Sad0felix | it seems as stable as AOSP2.2.1 | 18:45 | 
| arrrghhh | uhm, how did you determine what you should trim? | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | while being LOTS quicker, even with more stuff installed (he uses zeam as launcher | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | guess? | 18:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | he didn't have a sleep mode trigger | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | I added 2 then 1 | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | lot better, no more crashes | 18:46 | 
| Sad0felix | I put it on a different SD | 18:47 | 
| Sad0felix | maybe I should format the other one and put xdandroid from scratch, because of fragmentation | 18:47 | 
| Sad0felix | but being an SD ... | 18:47 | 
| arrrghhh | linux file systems don't fragment dude. | 18:47 | 
| Sad0felix | yep, but system.ext2 is a file on FAT32 | 18:48 | 
| Sad0felix | and that fragments, my friend | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | eh i guess the data.img changing... | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | moving stuff | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | updating | 18:48 | 
| F22 | mounting via loopback does add some overhead, not sure how much though. | 18:48 | 
| Sad0felix | what I say is: maybe I have a very harsh situation on the other SD | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i guess :P | 18:48 | 
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | his builds do seem faster | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | older as well | 18:49 | 
| Sad0felix | so first I wipe that, check back | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | which may explain why they feel faster | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | plus, no loop mount like F22 was just talkin 'bout. | 18:49 | 
| Sad0felix | yep, I would like to understand if just because of ext2 partition | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | directly mounted ext2 partition. | 18:49 | 
| Sad0felix | or if he tampered with config | 18:49 | 
| arrrghhh | perhaps... but hard to compare apples to apples. | 18:49 | 
| Sad0felix | kernel is the same | 18:50 | 
| Sad0felix | SD to SD, clean? | 18:50 | 
| arrrghhh | he had to tinker to get it up | 18:50 | 
| arrrghhh | to get it to work on an ext2 partition | 18:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i would think... | 18:50 | 
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| arrrghhh | AFAIK he forked the rootfs and initrd | 18:50 | 
| Sad0felix | I am not kidding, it really takes no more than 30 secs to start | 18:50 | 
| Sad0felix | rootfs surely, because it's not in fat but in ext2 | 18:51 | 
| Sad0felix | initrd too, it's not there | 18:51 | 
| Sad0felix | while he says to download new kernels from glemsom, doesn't say anything about those | 18:51 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:52 | 
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i said that :D | 18:53 | 
| arrrghhh | he's got a forum too | 18:53 | 
| Sad0felix | yep | 18:53 | 
| Sad0felix | I know you read :D | 18:53 | 
| Sad0felix | lots | 18:53 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | try to absorb all | 18:54 | 
| arrrghhh | so i end up knowing nothing :P | 18:54 | 
| Sad0felix | if he takes you work, and makes something to make it even better | 18:54 | 
| Sad0felix | lol, it doesn't work like that :D | 18:55 | 
| Sad0felix | we should discover why and what | 18:55 | 
| Sad0felix | btw, BT doesn't work ... | 18:56 | 
| Sad0felix | not on my rhod100 | 18:56 | 
| stinebd | [16:42:14] <JesusFreak316> When's stinebd gonna make a wired tether? :P | 18:58 | 
| stinebd | my thanksgiving was very nice, thanks for asking | 18:58 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Lol, I was having trouble with android-wired-tether. | 18:58 | 
| JesusFreak316 | How was yours? | 18:59 | 
| arrrghhh | hahhahaha | 18:59 | 
| stinebd | it was a much needed day off | 19:00 | 
| JesusFreak316 | But, honestly, would it even be possible? I know we have usb issues. | 19:01 | 
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize how much PTO i had left | 19:01 | 
| arrrghhh | so i'm getting a bunch of time off this month and even more next month haha | 19:01 | 
| arrrghhh | i would think with some iptables redirection trickery and adb you could do it in linux... i have no clue how you'd go about doing it tho. | 19:02 | 
| F22 | ok, that's weird, during one of my crashes last night, my launger icon for angry birds disappeared. yet, i can still run it from the market app. | 19:06 | 
| F22 | launger=launcher | 19:06 | 
| arrrghhh | oh noes | 19:06 | 
| arrrghhh | no angry birdz for you | 19:06 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:06 | 
| F22 | i know, terrible... :P | 19:06 | 
| arrrghhh | i bet you can create a shortcut on it too | 19:07 | 
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: not impossible, but we'd have to be creative (some dhcp and masquerade trickery with the adb ip address) | 19:07 | 
| F22 | just weird that the icon disappeared from the launcher after a crash. | 19:07 | 
| stinebd | 192.168.20.1 i believe is the address on the phone's side of the usb interface with adb active | 19:07 | 
| arrrghhh | i've seen it sometimes where certain apps don't show up in the app drawer | 19:07 | 
| arrrghhh | usually a reboot fixes it tho... | 19:07 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Ok, just wondering. THought maybe it might just be something more trivial. | 19:07 | 
| stinebd | it's trivial, sure. might even be able to hack it into netd and use the integrated tethering | 19:08 | 
| stinebd | but i haven't looked at that so i don't know for sure. netd is strange with certain things (wifi tethering can't be done via ad-hoc for instance) | 19:08 | 
| F22 | lol, don't recall if i did a full reboot, or if it was just one of those boot ani restarts. | 19:08 | 
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| F22 | time to try solution #1... | 19:09 | 
| Sad0felix | neocore 17.8, TP2 rhod100 ... it's a good mean value, right? | 19:09 | 
| arrrghhh | yea probably | 19:09 | 
| arrrghhh | between 15-19 seems to be the norm. | 19:09 | 
| Sad0felix | ok | 19:10 | 
| F22 | yep, mine was in the 17's too. | 19:10 | 
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| Sad0felix | with audio or without? | 19:10 | 
| F22 | with audio | 19:11 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, just atm I have an ubuntu running computer with no internet access because it doesn't have wifi so I'd like to use my phone as a wifi usb adapter. | 19:11 | 
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| Sad0felix | mine was without ... now 16.2 with. | 19:12 | 
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, most tether a 3g cxn :P | 19:12 | 
| Sad0felix | lol jesus, make some of your wizardries ... | 19:12 | 
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I know... | 19:13 | 
| TheDeadCPU | I wan O-Line on freenode | 19:14 | 
| Sad0felix | 'night guys | 19:31 | 
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| eee_ | hey guys | 20:06 | 
| eee_ | I was wondering if any1 has gps working on windows mobile | 20:07 | 
| eee_ | ? | 20:07 | 
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