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| dj6a | in clockwork is there an option to create 'disable voodoo' folder? | 01:25 |
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| F22 | oh wow, just edged out by the original nexus with 2.1 by a hair in quadrant, beat the moto droid handily. not sure i believe these results, but i suppose froyo is responsible. | 02:00 |
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| [acl] | F22: i wouldnt trust those results :-p | 02:30 |
| F22 | lol, i find them very hard to believe. | 02:31 |
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| F22 | i figured i'd establish a baseline before trying out that modded libgles posted to xda | 02:32 |
| F22 | 17.2 neocore | 02:32 |
| [acl] | its not modded | 02:32 |
| [acl] | there is like 2 or 3 versions of that driver i think | 02:32 |
| F22 | what is it then? have you tried it? and does it work? | 02:33 |
| [acl] | i think ive tried everything when it comes to 3d | 02:33 |
| [acl] | its the actual qualcomm driver for 3d | 02:33 |
| [acl] | its closed source | 02:33 |
| F22 | linpack is as low as expected. 3.938 at least. :P | 02:33 |
| F22 | ah | 02:33 |
| [acl] | i think as far as i know.. the only modded version that went out is one i made for stinedb.. but it showed no results :-( | 02:34 |
| F22 | i assume you've seen this then --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638666 | 02:36 |
| F22 | emwe was looking at it earlier | 02:36 |
| [acl] | thats an old ass post | 02:37 |
| F22 | lol, yep | 02:38 |
| [acl] | this is pre eclair | 02:38 |
| [acl] | when this whole driver didnt even exist. so oems had to butcher it into android itself instead of creating a layer for it | 02:38 |
| [acl] | those files wont run anymore.. they ran on cupcake and donut.. but then android change and since this is all closed.. you cant use it :-\ | 02:39 |
| F22 | bah, no fun this closed stuff. | 02:40 |
| [acl] | tried to change it.. so we can use 2+13 mem config like wince ... but we would really need to dig in there and search for all the locations where the sizes are defined | 02:41 |
| [acl] | dont even know if its worth it | 02:42 |
| F22 | much work, and of uncertain value. how are we comparing to wince currently? do we have an objective benchmark? or is it primarily subjective? | 02:43 |
| [acl] | well to be honest i dont even know how to compare | 02:43 |
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| [acl] | i wish there was a neocore for windows so it can be apples to apples | 02:43 |
| F22 | pity qualcom never made one | 02:44 |
| [acl] | bastards | 02:44 |
| F22 | lol, yes | 02:44 |
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| F22 | so what's the theory that posits we might we might have something to gain by going 2+13? | 02:46 |
| [acl] | we already tried .. we didnt gain any results | 02:46 |
| * F22 scratches out the extra "we might" | 02:46 | |
| F22 | i thought you said we'd need to really dig in there and search for all the size definition locations. | 02:47 |
| [acl] | "for all".. i just modded the most obvious one :-p | 02:47 |
| F22 | ah, lol | 02:47 |
| [acl] | you can try it if you want | 02:47 |
| F22 | no gain? not stable? or both? | 02:47 |
| [acl] | change is simple | 02:47 |
| [acl] | you need to mod pmem.c | 02:48 |
| [acl] | instead of > pmem_setting.pmem_gpu1_size=8*1024*1024; pmem_setting.pmem_gpu0_size=0x700000; | 02:48 |
| [acl] | change it to -> pmem_setting.pmem_gpu1_size=13*1024*1024; pmem_setting.pmem_gpu0_size=0x200000; | 02:49 |
| [acl] | and also modd this pmem_setting.pmem_gpu1_start=MSM_EBI_BASE+99*1024*1024; so it matches | 02:49 |
| [acl] | then i can send you the modded qcom so you can run your tests | 02:50 |
| F22 | sounds like it's all still pretty fresh in your mind, either that or you have it all conveniently filed away. :P | 02:50 |
| [acl] | recently upgraded the framebuffer on nand.. so i had to revisit all of this | 02:51 |
| F22 | ah, how is that going? any noticeable benefit? | 02:51 |
| [acl] | still have some 3d bugs to fix. | 02:52 |
| [acl] | E/EGL.oem ( 3162): invalid buffer offset (0x000bc000 + 0x000bb800 > 0x0012c000) | 02:52 |
| [acl] | im getting these errors | 02:52 |
| F22 | fun | 02:53 |
| F22 | so what do you think explains the screwy quadrant number? | 02:56 |
| [acl] | ahh no clue | 02:57 |
| F22 | i finally downloaded angry birds last night. it's amusing... :P | 02:59 |
| F22 | or perhaps i should say earlier tonight. | 03:00 |
| F22 | it's 3am here. | 03:00 |
| [acl] | same here | 03:00 |
| [acl] | hwo are the graphics ? | 03:00 |
| F22 | unstable, get occasional crashes on mission transitions with out of memory errors. | 03:00 |
| [acl] | ahh ic | 03:01 |
| [acl] | but does the back ground display properly? | 03:01 |
| F22 | mostly, occasionally i get areas that are jumbles of dots, but those are generally only part of the screen, like in the opening scene, the trail leads back to the pigs, but the pigs are just a jumble of dots that i can't make out. | 03:02 |
| F22 | they haven't impacted game play yet. | 03:02 |
| F22 | i imagine they would if there was more movement in the game. | 03:02 |
| F22 | the game is playable, if a little slow at times. | 03:02 |
| [acl] | ic | 03:03 |
| F22 | i'm running the wistilt kernel with frx03 and my own keymap/layout enhancements to the rootfs. | 03:04 |
| [acl] | cool | 03:04 |
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| F22 | right now, for me at least, the crashes are probably the most annoying problem. the devolving into dots and the occasional sluggishness are probably next. not sure which is worse. | 03:06 |
| [acl] | could be worse | 03:06 |
| F22 | but it's just the game that goes down, android at least has been far more stable for me since frx03. | 03:06 |
| [acl] | my 3d got stable but now im dog slow :-( | 03:06 |
| F22 | i went 5 days and only rebooted once in that period. | 03:07 |
| F22 | kept it plugged in for most of that time however. | 03:08 |
| F22 | sounds like your new framebuffer is having teething pains. | 03:10 |
| [acl] | when it was buggy it was faster..lol.. as i fix more stuff it just slows down | 03:11 |
| [acl] | somewhere along the way i went from 18 to 6fps .. just painful | 03:12 |
| F22 | lol, aawww....reminds me of jit... someone complained that the removal of the jit slowed down some games... | 03:12 |
| F22 | but i don't miss the jit related crashes | 03:13 |
| F22 | 18 to 6, ow. | 03:13 |
| F22 | that is painful | 03:13 |
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| [acl] | wow nothing like a reboot to get you back to 18 | 03:25 |
| F22 | lol, that was all you needed? | 03:32 |
| [acl] | what can i say .. its buggy | 03:33 |
| F22 | lol, yes, haret too. i haven't experienced it yet since frx03, but others have. i had someone complain that my rootfs was running much more slowly with frx03 then the official one, so i pointed them at my new rootfs which solved their problem. only difference between the two rootfs's was an ipdate to the rhod100 de and uk keymaps/layouts. :P | 03:35 |
| F22 | but i used to experience it all the time with frx02. reboots were wonderful, and sometimes had to zap data.img too. | 03:37 |
| [acl] | ahh yea | 03:37 |
| [acl] | anyways i think its bed time | 03:37 |
| [acl] | have tons of turkey to eat tomoro | 03:37 |
| [acl] | lata | 03:37 |
| F22 | you too | 03:37 |
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| Sad0felix | ciao everyone, I am reading back what I missed in the forum, Naad said emwe figured out the issue with rhod100s ... | 06:17 |
| Sad0felix | is it related with explicitly issuing rel_path=andboot in startup? | 06:17 |
| Sad0felix | uh, sleep mode 1 always worked for me because I never used Start-up Tool, I guess ... | 06:19 |
| Sad0felix | I have 13 hours on 1 battery, 20% to go, with couple of calls and 3g updating mails every 5 mins!!! quite an achievement | 06:20 |
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| Sad0felix | new kernel works well!!!!! thanks guys | 06:46 |
| Sad0felix | display light is also better now | 06:46 |
| Sad0felix | I mean, how the automatic lighting setting works | 06:47 |
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| xdandroid | naad.daan changed the Status on bug 64 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 07:40 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=64 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Rhod100_xx not booting after 10/23 kernels | 07:41 |
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| Sad0felix | hi | 07:43 |
| Naad | Hey | 07:45 |
| Sad0felix | before I spend days just to find out that it doesn't work, the proximitysensor switch in startup is worthy something or not? | 07:55 |
| Sad0felix | not the wake one, I don't care of that | 07:56 |
| Naad | proximitysensor switch? | 07:57 |
| Naad | are you talking about the startup utility? I don't use that actually, so no clue haha | 07:59 |
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| Sad0felix | no, I don't use the startup utility too | 08:30 |
| Sad0felix | I use Gen.Y to make Android boot instead of Winmo | 08:30 |
| Naad | then which proximitysensor switch? | 08:30 |
| Naad | aah ok | 08:30 |
| Sad0felix | in startup.txt | 08:30 |
| Naad | don't use that either hehe | 08:30 |
| Naad | don't think it has a use, maybe for debugging... | 08:30 |
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| Naad | but don't trust me, i don't know nothing hahah | 08:31 |
| Sad0felix | I saw that there is the possiblity to use a "board-htcrhodium-proximity.on=1" | 08:31 |
| Sad0felix | I tried but maybe some more config is necessary | 08:31 |
| Sad0felix | ok | 08:31 |
| Sad0felix | don't worry :D | 08:31 |
| Naad | maybe i should learn some developing... but too busy studying at the moment. | 08:32 |
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| Sad0felix | ping | 09:20 |
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| Sad0felix | hola | 14:11 |
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| GlemSom | For those who it might concern, please read this notice -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9420788#post9420788 | 14:42 |
| emwe | GlemSom: thx for the notice. then we'll have to find a place to host the christmas presents elsewhere during the downtime. | 14:56 |
| paalsteek | GlemSom: is the code, you are using, public? | 15:23 |
| GlemSom | paalsteek, No, it's not... It's really specific to this project... So - I saw no reason to make it public... | 15:25 |
| GlemSom | emwe, Yeah... you might wanna push 'em before the 15th then :P | 15:26 |
| paalsteek | I could host the service while yours is down | 15:26 |
| emwe | GlemSom: lol | 15:26 |
| GlemSom | paalsteek, It's quite specific to my machine - and contains ssh keys to my buildhost, google-account and etc.. So, I'll prefer to keep it for myself ;) | 15:27 |
| GlemSom | If I at some day stop the service, I could imagine I'll clean it up - and make it public... | 15:28 |
| Sad0felix | couldn't we generate new temporary keys/account/else needed to host the service elsewere? | 15:28 |
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| GlemSom | Well, everything is possible.. | 15:29 |
| Sad0felix | I mean, if I give you root to a vps and you change password, you could then use it without me being able to spoof them ... | 15:29 |
| Sad0felix | this is option 2 | 15:30 |
| GlemSom | Sadly, I have no time to maintain it atm - as I have a couble of real-life problems I need to sort out first... | 15:30 |
| Sad0felix | hep | 15:30 |
| GlemSom | hmm, honestly a vps is a good idea... | 15:31 |
| Sad0felix | really? | 15:31 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 15:31 |
| emwe | GlemSom: then sort that rl stuff out first. imho. | 15:31 |
| Sad0felix | what minimum hw specs do you need / what distro? | 15:32 |
| GlemSom | emwe, I will... | 15:33 |
| GlemSom | emwe, Sadly - as a lot of other people I'm hit by the financial crisis too - and which-ever it brings... So, physically I will need to move my server - as I will move appartment... | 15:34 |
| GlemSom | (I simply cannot afford the bills here anymore...) | 15:34 |
| GlemSom | So, I'll be moving the 15th of December.... And, at this point - I have no idea about Internet... :/ | 15:34 |
| emwe | ouch. all the best. | 15:35 |
| GlemSom | I HAVE asked my ISP to move (Got company paid Internet) - but it depends on phone lines and etc.. So might take time :( | 15:35 |
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| emwe | it's seldom one heres of succesful painless isp moves. | 15:35 |
| emwe | s/heres/hears | 15:35 |
| emwe | evening rrew. | 15:36 |
| GlemSom | And well, sadly my uncle passed away 2 days ago - so I have a lot on my hands atm - and therefore have no time to maintain it... | 15:36 |
| GlemSom | I do how-ever expect things to get better in late december... | 15:36 |
| GlemSom | or January 2011 :P | 15:36 |
| rrew | hey emwe, finally back after long time :P | 15:36 |
| GlemSom | Well, I'll survive... So will my service... It WILL how-ever be offline for a little while :P | 15:37 |
| emwe | GlemSom: i am sorry for the loss. and as i said earlier. nothing's more important then rl. allthough we sometimes forget about it... at least i do sometimes. | 15:37 |
| emwe | rrew: busy with school i suppose? | 15:37 |
| GlemSom | emwe, heh true - just read the comments on XDA... Not that many people understand developers are humans too :P | 15:37 |
| Sad0felix | rofl | 15:38 |
| rrew | emwe: yeah a lot to do in no time :P | 15:38 |
| emwe | ;) | 15:38 |
| GlemSom | Sad0felix, Well, my code including repo's and stuff is about 5g - then whatever recent Linux will do. | 15:38 |
| GlemSom | Sad0felix, if it's x86_64 it needs to have 32bit layers too... | 15:38 |
| GlemSom | Sad0felix, Anyway, It'll be some other time... but, I might get back to you on that one! ;) | 15:39 |
| paalsteek | I understand you have other things to do | 15:42 |
| paalsteek | and sorry for the loss from my side too | 15:42 |
| paalsteek | hope it will get better soon | 15:43 |
| paalsteek | and thanks a lot for the service | 15:43 |
| GlemSom | paalsteek, You're welcome! :) | 15:45 |
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| rrew | emwe, any investigations ongoing on our side? | 15:52 |
| emwe | power collapse, modem crash and incall-mic-issue from my side | 15:53 |
| emwe | i stumbled from one thing into the other... | 15:55 |
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| rrew | kk, btw device still freezing after few secs on outgoing call? | 15:56 |
| emwe | on incoming here after 9 secs sporadically | 15:57 |
| emwe | as i wrote in the thread, had incall-mic and no freeze for about a day. | 15:57 |
| emwe | and then it broke again :) | 15:57 |
| emwe | the freeze is the modem crashing. | 15:57 |
| rrew | hmmm | 15:57 |
| emwe | plz don't ask what broke it again. i think i have to many local changes to tell what changed and what not. :) | 15:58 |
| emwe | or perhaps a reboot into wince reinitialized something again and broke it. | 15:58 |
| rrew | :p | 15:58 |
| rrew | i will jump into developing again when i catch some free time, need to setup the build env again so it could take some time | 16:01 |
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| stinebd | sad, sad, gruesome news about my colleague glemsom | 19:55 |
| stinebd | TheDeadCPU: this is for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=609 | 19:56 |
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| r^7z | alright... got an interesting question here | 22:06 |
| r^7z | do I still delete data.img if I am using the OTA? | 22:07 |
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| r^7z | sup reef | 22:10 |
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| r^7z | aiet peace out! \quit | 22:29 |
| r^7z | \quit | 22:29 |
| r^7z | maybe this one will work | 22:29 |
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| Snuupy | OHaidere. | 22:55 |
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