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| arrrghhh | F22, how goes it sir | 00:17 |
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| F22 | working on the uk keymap/layout :P | 00:18 |
| F22 | there are so freaking many of these things... | 00:18 |
| F22 | not sure what i'm going to do about the italian and french ones, don't have pics of them. | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 00:19 |
| F22 | i'll probably put out a call for french and italian volunteers to snap me a pic. | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea there's a boatload of rhod100's | 00:19 |
| F22 | otherwise they can keep the keymap they currently have. :P | 00:19 |
| F22 | the us keymaps are all done, at least for rhod. | 00:20 |
| F22 | i've done the fuze too. | 00:20 |
| F22 | still need to do the other raphs. | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | man i still need to go raking thru the bugtracker | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | so there's been a lot of hit-or-miss reports on frx03 | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | i have noticed sometimes that system_server process just absolutely pegs the processor, and everything on the phone becomes basically impossible. | 00:21 |
| F22 | i thought that was only in the first 10 minutes? | 00:21 |
| F22 | after the transition. | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | eh i get it at random | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | some boots are so fast | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | others drag | 00:22 |
| F22 | odd, mine has been solid since i switched. although i have only booted once since. the thing stays up forever. :D | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | usually the data.img creation boot is slow, but i've had other random times where it boots and it'll just dog. | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | i keep rebooting to winmo | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | 2 nights in a row i left it on android, because it was so solid. but 2 nights i wake up and it's in winmo... | 00:22 |
| F22 | after i manually turned off jit on mine and killed zygote, my phone stayed up two days. | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | throw it on the charger when you go to sleep? | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | i was impatient. | 00:23 |
| F22 | when it came back up i still hadn't installed the FRX03. It crashed twice in 4 hours. | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | i built my own image immediately lol | 00:23 |
| F22 | So then I switched to FRX03, but my own personally compiled version of it. | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:24 |
| F22 | booted it up, took a bit, but came up clean. didn't even need to zap data.img. | 00:24 |
| F22 | it's been up ever since. | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i'm not sure why i'm getting resets to winmo | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | all it does is recieve email at night | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i got any text messages or calls overnight. lol who knows if i missed any. | 00:25 |
| F22 | it took so long in the boot ani that i was starting to get worried...but it eventually came out of it. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 00:25 |
| F22 | so i can't say i have a great deal of experience with how it reacts after boots. but so far, all is well. it's not like the first time with a new system.ext2 comes up fast anyway. | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | man i miss wistilt. been almost a week since he's been online... | 00:26 |
| F22 | me too :( | 00:26 |
| F22 | yes, i throw it in the charger over night. :D | 00:28 |
| F22 | and much of the day too... | 00:28 |
| F22 | the wake up to winmo thing, i had that on quite a few occasions before FRX03. | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | i've had that on a regular basis now lol | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | i never ran android overnight really | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | until frx03, the damned thing just ran so well | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | maybe i should get a signed image... | 00:30 |
| F22 | mine most certainly isn't signed. | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | i just booted and it seems unhappy lol | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | just had a system process error and now the backlight is on but screen is blank... and unresponsive. i hit wait hrm. | 00:31 |
| F22 | when i finally rebooted my phone the first time after manually turning off jit, it had managed to get into a weird state. it was asleep and i couldn't seem to wake it up. | 00:32 |
| F22 | should've tried to adb into it... | 00:32 |
| F22 | instead i got impatient and immediately rebooted. | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 00:33 |
| F22 | well not quite immediately, i pressed the power button several times to try to wake it, but when that didn't work, i rebooted. | 00:34 |
| F22 | :P | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea. been there ;) | 00:34 |
| F22 | pulled out the handy dandy stylus and did a soft reset. | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | gotta love that | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | do the capacitve screen phones even have reset pins? | 00:35 |
| F22 | interesting question. no idea. | 00:36 |
| F22 | have you tried a new data.img? | 00:38 |
| F22 | might as well try that before you go with a new system.ext2. less work. | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | do you oc? | 00:43 |
| F22 | not at the moment, no. | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | i should probably turn that crap off. | 00:43 |
| F22 | i figured i needed to establish baseline stability first. | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | i flip back and forth, definitely more stable at stock speed. | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | less random moments of the phone crapping itself too. | 00:44 |
| F22 | chips tend to degrade faster when they're pushed hard. | 00:44 |
| F22 | on a phone, the normal lifetime of the chip isn't really an issue, nobody is going to use their handset for 10 years, unless they're insane. | 00:45 |
| F22 | but if you really, really ride that soc hard...you can severely decrease its life to the point where it could die on you while you're still under contract. | 00:46 |
| F22 | the question is where the happy middle ground is. | 00:46 |
| F22 | we all know that there's quite a bit of headroom in these chips because they tend to get underclocked so the battery will last longer. | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | screw it | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | gets me new phones for free | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 00:47 |
| F22 | lol | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | i pay $7 a month for tep, i deserve it hahaha | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | new phone every 2 years for free. that's justified. | 00:47 |
| F22 | mine is over a year old and it's not on warranty. | 00:47 |
| F22 | i don't want it to die until i'm ready to jump. | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | ah well | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | bedtime | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | cya later dude | 00:48 |
| F22 | sleep well | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 00:48 |
| F22 | btw, i've used my phone more in the past few weeks i've been on android then i did in the entire previous year with win mo. | 00:50 |
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| Fudge | guys i had to revert to a previous install, im blind and woudl like to know if there is a shortcut keyboard command to turn accessibility on | 05:36 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello arrrghh | 10:57 |
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| arrrghhh | what's up | 11:14 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i use FRX03 now and this release is same ... to FRX02 for me | 11:15 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | but ... FRX03 it's ok ... works fine | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | ... ok | 11:17 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | fluid same frx02 on diam100 | 11:19 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | except .. starter first | 11:19 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | the sound is always stuterring and the device always no awake ... | 11:20 |
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| arrrghhh | that sound stutter is haunting you isn't it. | 11:30 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | no no !!! lol | 11:31 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | j'ai d'autres choses qui peuvent me hanter | 11:32 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | sorry | 11:32 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | I have other things that may haunt me | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | seems to haunt you :P | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | so every time you kill that [battery] process, stutter is gone? | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | do you notice any adverse affects from killing that process? | 11:33 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes ... stutter is gone !!! | 11:34 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes also ... for your second question ... lol | 11:34 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | the battery management is interrupted ... the battery is no charging | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:35 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | same ... adaptator disconnecting ! | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | well i'm sure we need someone to clean up the battery commits... | 11:35 |
| * arrrghhh wouldn't be able to do that unfortunately. | 11:35 | |
| arrrghhh | i'd just make 'em worse lol. put us back in the stone age of battery management. | 11:35 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | fun? | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | fun? | 11:36 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | lol ... it is not me who will! | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | you fix it then :P | 11:37 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | Yet it's been a unix but I knew I forgot everything! | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | do you just throw everything you say at google translate? lol | 11:38 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | Now I have 41 years but I started to know computer under UNIX | 11:40 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes i use google translate | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | ah ha | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | explains a lot. | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 11:41 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | sometimes, not always | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't know enough french from my school days, so it's probably for the better. | 11:42 |
| arrrghhh | it's just google translate always spits out weird sentences... in both directions :P | 11:43 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | it's ok ... no problem | 11:43 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes ... but google translate became clever enough anyway ... I can understand you | 11:45 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's good | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes i have trouble understanding you, but most of the time i can make assumptions :P | 11:46 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... lol | 11:47 |
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| arrrghhh | well i was finally able to reproduce a bootloop on the rhod | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | but i went from my unsigned image to stine's signed one w/o a new data.img. so i'd chalk that up to user error lol | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | just wanted to see if it would work at all haha | 13:38 |
| F22 | lol | 13:38 |
| F22 | seems you don't always get them if you go from unsigned to unsigned... | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | that wouldn't surprise me | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | or signed to signed | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | so maybe you don't need to blow away your data.img when you go from image to image. | 13:39 |
| F22 | my thoughts were heading in that direction too... | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | meh, blowing away data.img will always be troubleshooting step #1 in my book :P | 13:39 |
| F22 | lol | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | i'm real close to paying for TB | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | i just wonder if the paid-for version will be worth it when i do get a real android device. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | i probably won't be blowing stuff up so frequently... in theory... | 13:40 |
| F22 | lol | 13:40 |
| F22 | when will that be? | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | probably not for a while with the plan i'm on. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | plus, nothing really appeals to me right now except maybe the epic... but i saw the screen in the store again on wednesday... a rep actually had it. he loved the screen, i thought the colors looked like crap hahaha | 13:41 |
| F22 | i've got another year on my current contract. epic is nice, but not nice enough for me to eat a $200 termination fee. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | i pulled out my tp2 and he asked what phone it was... then said it wasn't available on sprint... those guys aren't the brightest. | 13:42 |
| * arrrghhh isn't on a contract :D | 13:42 | |
| arrrghhh | but i also can't get consumer phones as soon as they're released. c'est la vie. | 13:42 |
| F22 | of course i got my tp2 for free too. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha nice | 13:42 |
| F22 | aside from the pesky contract. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | how'd you swing yours? | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | mine was insurance replacement. | 13:42 |
| F22 | wmdeals.com had a special | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | damn that's one hell of a special. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | sprint used to charge $200 for this phone, on top of the 2-year contract. | 13:43 |
| F22 | and it's direct from t-mobile | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 13:43 |
| F22 | not through some other company | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | tmo has seemingly gotten better | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | i used to write them off as a crappy carrier for teenagers lol | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | i still do, jokingly... but it seems they have stepped their game up. | 13:44 |
| F22 | their 3G has improved tremendously over the last year. | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:44 |
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| arrrghhh | their service used to be so spotty. | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | the only reason people went to them is they had new phones, which is why i labeled them as a carrier for teenagers. don't care about service, just want mah sidekick! lol | 13:44 |
| F22 | t-mo actually has a great customer service department. | 13:45 |
| F22 | they did seem to be falling a bit behind on android phones however until the G2/MyTouch 4G. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea... haven't dealt with consumer side of any carrier for.... almost 10 years now. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | sprint was WAY behind it seemed. then the evo popped up lol | 13:46 |
| F22 | I like the G2. The MyTouch 4G looks like a toy to me on the other hand. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | in the new phone dept. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | their service has always been pretty good. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | the whole mytouch line seems to be the sidekick replacement. | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | for tweens :P | 13:47 |
| F22 | yep, the EVO brought Sprint back into the competition, not only that, it placed Sprint temporarily in the lead. | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | well what's funny | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | is everyone is touting 4g | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | but no one really has it except sprint/clearwire... | 13:47 |
| F22 | sprint's isn't real 4G either... | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | tmo's 4g phones technically aren't 4g... | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | wimax isn't? | 13:48 |
| F22 | not the version that sprint is using. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | oh. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | show's what i know. i thought wimax was considered 4g :P | 13:48 |
| F22 | it doesn't meat the spec either. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | so no carrier is using 4g | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | awesome lol | 13:48 |
| F22 | nope | 13:48 |
| * arrrghhh needs to read up on the specs again | 13:48 | |
| arrrghhh | i did about a year ago | 13:49 |
| F22 | and verizon's lte which is going up now isn't real 4G either. | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i heard about that | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | so i looked into the tmo thing | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i figured theirs wasn't true 4g either. | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | just hsdpa+ | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | hdspa? i forget lol | 13:49 |
| F22 | verizon isn't going hsdpa+. | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | tmo tho | 13:49 |
| F22 | yep | 13:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/21/itu-lays-down-law-wimax-2-lte-advanced-are-4g-everyone-else-i/ | 13:50 |
| F22 | tmo's hsdpa+ is faster than sprint's wimax in a lot of areas however. so it's all arguable. | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | screw the itu | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. i wouldn't know F22. you wouldn't either, as neither of our phones are capable :P | 13:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | My thoughts exactly. LTE is 4g imo. | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | +1 | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | lte is 4g, wimax is 4g. | 13:51 |
| F22 | lol | 13:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | hdspa+ is 3.5g | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol the comments all start by aruging about pepsi or coke | 13:52 |
| F22 | just because neither you nor i have the tech in our phones doesn't mean we can't read the numbers and the reviews. | 13:53 |
| F22 | i see no real advantage to sprint's -current- wimax network over tmo's hsdpa+ network. | 13:54 |
| F22 | hsdpa+ isn't standing still, regardless of whether you wish to label it 3.5G, 3.75G, 3.9G or 4G. | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | none of it is standing still dude :P | 13:56 |
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| arrrghhh | and we can talk and read about the spec. | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | i just wanted to avoid the 'my carrier is faster than your carrier' argument when there's so many factors involved. | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | that and we don't even have devices that can use the fancy new fastness :P | 13:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Honestly, since I'll be getting a limited data plan I don't care since faster just uses my data up faster, lol. | 13:57 |
| F22 | lol, fair enough. i just wanted to point out that hsda+ as currently implemented isn't any slower than wimax as currently implemented. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 13:58 |
| F22 | lol | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea, i'll buy that F22. | 13:58 |
| F22 | i think that's the main reason why i'm still with tmo. the relatively cheap unlimited data. | 14:03 |
| F22 | verizon's htc merge, possibly droid merge, has me really curious, but their data pricing makes me wince. | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea i have no clue what sprint's data pricing looks like. i thought it was pretty good tho | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | their 'simply everything' still seems like the best way to go if you want an unlt'd plan | 14:05 |
| F22 | sprint and tmo have the best pricing. | 14:06 |
| F22 | the death star and the eye of sauron are an entirely different story... :P | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:07 |
| F22 | that big red eye that verizon paints on all their motorola droids, droid ii's and droid x's reminds me so much of sauron's eye from the lord of the rings.... | 14:10 |
| F22 | i notice that they didn't do that with htc's droid incredible | 14:10 |
| F22 | i'm hoping they've dropped their plan to force bing onto the merge. | 14:12 |
| F22 | i'll probably wait until the wxga screens are out before i consider another phone...4.3" wxga...and a cpu that push those pixels effortlessly. :) | 14:13 |
| F22 | i'm curious about whether or not this nexus s will be wxga... | 14:15 |
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| r^7z | I want 10g | 14:17 |
| r^7z | :P | 14:17 |
| r^7z | is that too much to ask? ;) | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 14:18 |
| *** r^7z is now known as r^7z_on_10g | 14:18 | |
| arrrghhh | for a loooooong time | 14:18 |
| r^7z_on_10g | yay! | 14:18 |
| r^7z_on_10g | I'm on 10g! | 14:19 |
| r^7z_on_10g | LMAO | 14:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'm definitely excited for the dual core proc phones | 14:19 |
| r^7z_on_10g | and about that | 14:19 |
| r^7z_on_10g | I want quad core | 14:19 |
| r^7z_on_10g | XD | 14:19 |
| * r^7z_on_10g has an idea | 14:19 | |
| *** r^7z_on_10g is now known as r^7z_10g_quad_co | 14:20 | |
| r^7z_10g_quad_co | poo! | 14:20 |
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| r^7z | oh well... | 14:21 |
| r^7z | I don't suppose theres enough "demand" for it now | 14:21 |
| r^7z | much less the tech | 14:21 |
| r^7z | so much for dreaming, heh | 14:21 |
| r^7z | hmmm... | 14:22 |
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| QuadcoreFuze_on_ | fail! | 14:26 |
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| r^7z | meh... think I'll make like a baby and head-out | 14:27 |
| r^7z | :D | 14:27 |
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| arrrghhh | wow. | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | i think that guy entertains himself a little too much. | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 14:30 |
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| Htc | hi | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | howdy | 15:12 |
| Htc | im trying to run haret.exe .. it won't let me, do i start it from my phone? | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | from file explorer | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | total commander | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | what-have-you | 15:14 |
| Htc | htc touch pro 2, and i have a moded version of windows on it >> | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | did my words not make sense? | 15:19 |
| Htc | im doing it now | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 15:41 |
| Htc | k | 15:42 |
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| Skyguy04 | Anyone know who is working on the camera? | 17:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 17:21 |
| Skyguy04 | curious if that's a dead project | 17:24 |
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| XirXes | It snowed so hard last night my internet dies | 18:50 |
| XirXes | *died | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | It snowed 60cm here. | 18:52 |
| XirXes | This isnt a contest :) | 18:53 |
| XirXes | I dont know how much fell here but I can tell you there was alot of shoveling to be done. | 18:55 |
| XirXes | and it was heavy wet pita snow | 18:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 18:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | I love it when it snows like 20cm in Oslo and the town just stops and goes like "wtf do we do now" | 18:57 |
| XirXes | lol yeah. here when a lot of snow falls it doesnt change anything. Snow day? pft | 18:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea. We're used to like 1 meter of snow during a night lol | 19:02 |
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| JesusFreak316 | F22, I don't know if it's related but I had my phone die really fast today, like in 2 hours of use. Probably something on my end, but just a heads up. | 22:58 |
| F22 | jesusfreak316: your phone's battery seemed to run down particularly fast today? or it crashed? | 23:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Rather fast. | 23:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's been very stable. | 23:06 |
| F22 | i can't think of any changes in that rootfs i gave you which might cause a battery to run out of juice faster. it just replaced the old keymaps/layouts with new ones. it didn't add or change any functionality on the phone. | 23:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like I said, probably my fault. Just wanted to let you know in case others start reporting it. | 23:09 |
| F22 | will keep it in mind in case i hear it again. thanks. | 23:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | You're welcome. | 23:10 |
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