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| eee | hey arrrghhh | 00:35 |
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| arrrghhh | y'know | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | livin the dream | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | goin to bed in fact. peace fellas. | 00:42 |
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| XirXes | Hey stinebd. if your still around can you help me figure out how to build xdandroid with that in call touch ui enabled? my googleing has turned up nothing | 00:48 |
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| XirXes | Im pretty sure I can make it put the buttons a set distance away from the bottom of the screen so vga devices can use it. I just need to be able to test it | 00:49 |
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| F22 | stinebd: i just read through your earlier conversation with arrrghhh. It sounds like you want to create a layout for each "event" device. So if i understand you correctly power would go in rhodxxx_gpio-keys.kl (/dev/input/event1) by itself, the end and volume buttons would go in rhodxxx_rhodium-keypad.kl (/dev/input/event3), and most everything else would go into rhodxxx_microp-keypad.kl (/dev/input/event6). Am I following you correctly? | 01:28 |
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| F22 | stinebd: scratch the rhodxxx for gpio-keys and rhodium-keypad, those buttons (power, end, vol up, vol down) are pretty consistent across all rhodiums. i don't think we need 1 file for each model for those. | 01:52 |
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| SlyDogJeff77 | good morning everyone | 08:38 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | new to the chat.. been trying out xdandroid every now and then on my topaz for the past month.. | 08:38 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | this morning i was trying again.. | 08:39 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | i usually use the xdandroid startup utility by sovereignty... | 08:39 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | but when i went to update, if crashes on extracting the newly dnloaded update | 08:39 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | is there something wrong? or is there a better startup app? | 08:39 |
| SlyDogJeff77 | i use the energy rom.. | 08:40 |
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| emwe | hi | 11:03 |
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| F22 | arrrghhh! | 11:16 |
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| F22 | arrrghhh: read my last post. :D | 11:46 |
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| arrrghhh | lol that's awesome F22 | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if people using the power as end is going to be preferred, but since this isn't part of the main git stuff, it shouldn't matter. | 12:06 |
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| F22 | we don't have enough buttons to give everything its own button. | 12:07 |
| F22 | besides, i find the power button easier to get to when i'm holding the phone one-handed. | 12:07 |
| F22 | if i can use it to end a call too...for me that's optimal. | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:08 |
| arrrghhh | so is there going to be a way to select this with a startup.txt change? | 12:08 |
| arrrghhh | IMHO that would be the best option. | 12:08 |
| F22 | that's my intent unless stinebd decides there's a better way. | 12:09 |
| F22 | the key change is currently in rhodxxx_navi_pad.kl | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | awesome | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | COMMIT | 12:12 |
| F22 | currently which navi_pad you use depends on thekeyboard you select in startup. | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | NOW | 12:12 |
| hamagc | lol | 12:13 |
| F22 | lol | 12:14 |
| F22 | stinebd probably will want to change the name of the file if i read his comments from last night correctly. | 12:14 |
| F22 | i don't see why we need a navi_pad, or whatever it's going to get called, for every rhod model, they're all the same. instead we should have two that are selectable in startup, one with end as end, and the other with end as home. the init script also needs to be edited to split navi_pad selection off from keyboard selection. thats the part that i still need to do. | 12:19 |
| F22 | the rootfs i posted to xda assumes that everyone who installs it wants the end key to be home/recent apps. :P | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | and power=end key | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | then power | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | assuming they make that change. some people are still going to bitch, but if we have an option in the startup the bitching will at least be mitigated. | 12:27 |
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| F22 | there is already userland code within froyo to have power end calls as well. it's just a matter of figuring out how to auto-set it so the users don't have to. | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea i hear that's how a lot of native android devices are. | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | so in reality your change brings it closest to how this phone would function if it was an actual android device. | 12:31 |
| F22 | yup | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | just odd that what is on the buttons doesn't match :P | 12:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, it's under accessibility. | 12:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Power to end calls that is. | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | it's in the post. | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think to look there myself, d'oh. | 12:32 |
| F22 | lol, where were you last night JF when I was hunting around for that? :P | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | seriously hahaha | 12:32 |
| F22 | i figured it out though. | 12:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | IDK my bff Jill? | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | swoops in just a little too late. | 12:32 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: !! blasphemy! people are saying raph and diam are broken in respect to autobl on newest rootfs. | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | still works on my rhod tho, so not sure why it's borked. a senior mod with a raph110 confirmed the issue as well :P | 13:23 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: auto-bl is using different code path on rhod. :) | 13:34 |
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| arrrghhh | not surprised. | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: you have a blackstone...? | 13:37 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: are they just stating that auto-bl is broken (and worked before) or is general backlight setting broken? | 13:37 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: topaz | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | or topa right | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | well they said that autobl worked fine until the newest rootfs. | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | need to confirm some things about whether previous rootfs was fine, and if it isn't a kernel issue. | 13:38 |
| emwe | the previous rootfs (specifically the liblights in there) did set backlight levels in the kernel driver allthough auto-bl was enabled in android. with the recent rootfs that was changed so that only backlight level sets are triggered when auto-bl is not enabled | 13:39 |
| emwe | a pitty the raph hasn't arrived here, yet... | 13:40 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: previous rootfs should be fine then. | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | you still haven't gotten it? | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling you're not going to :S | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | so it is a rootfs issue, not a system image mismatch or something? | 13:41 |
| emwe | should be rootfs as that was major change in there since the last one. | 13:42 |
| emwe | but, i'd rather have the kernel code path fixed then | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | well i'll let you guys make those decisions. i just report issues & test crap :P | 13:42 |
| emwe | perhaps raph/diam need that backlight level set thingy still allthough on auto-bl. | 13:43 |
| emwe | rhod does the same. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | make sure issues aren't user error. | 13:43 |
| emwe | regarding the raph. spoke to a colleque (spelling?) which often orders from us and he said it might take 4-5 weeks even in worst case | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:44 |
| emwe | in some cases it's quite fast with air fright... seems to depend on how "full" the container is until it's actually flying over.. | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | colleague fyi. your english is spectacular tho, where are you from? | 13:44 |
| emwe | germany. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:45 |
| emwe | spectacular? ;) | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea when i went there they spoke very good english. better than most peole here | 13:45 |
| emwe | i used to watch the "Blossom" sitcom in english with german subtiles when i was young. dunno if that had an influence ;) | 13:46 |
| emwe | (dunno if you are old enough to still know blossom) | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | omnomnomnom | 13:46 |
| emwe | meep | 13:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | Extra spice home made KFC. | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | i know blossom. unfortunately lol | 13:58 |
| Kraln | so when I get a different phone, who should I send my cdma rhodium to? :) | 14:10 |
| sunil__ | trying installation on HTC viva with OMAP850 CPU, getting error | 14:13 |
| XirXes | thats not one of the supported devices here. where'd you get the cab | 14:14 |
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| arrrghhh | Kraln: good question. i'd vote camro probaly. | 14:34 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 14:34 |
| Kraln | I mean, how better to help than to hand someone who needs one a phone in question amirite? | 14:35 |
| emwe | camro is on gsm though | 14:35 |
| emwe | austria iirc. | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't matter | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | he can still use the phone | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | just not as a phone :P | 14:36 |
| emwe | heh | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't do me much good, i already have a rhod400 | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | you could send it to stine, but he wouldn't do anything with it :P | 14:37 |
| arrrghhh | definitely issue with newest rootfs & RAPH/DIAM phones. | 14:40 |
| F22 | i'd vote camro too, if he could get any use out of it. you could always send it to wistilt, but then he wouldn't need arrrghhh for testing anymore. :P | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'd be rendered useless! | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | that does bring up a good point | 14:41 |
| F22 | nah, you'd just have more time to answer clueless questions and chase after bugs. :P | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | what phone is it Kraln ? rhod400 or 500? | 14:41 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | but i love the testing. probably my favorite part. | 14:42 |
| Kraln | 400. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | chasing bugs is cool sometimes. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | answering clueless questions always sucks. | 14:42 |
| Kraln | it's a world phone, though | 14:42 |
| Kraln | it has the sim card slot | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln: alrighty. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | they all are | 14:42 |
| F22 | agreed on that last one. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | all RHOD's | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | so yea i forgot about that for some reason, i guess camro could use it. | 14:43 |
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| arrrghhh | not sure what frequencies the radio supports, 3g may not work for him. | 14:43 |
| Kraln | I could be convinced to doing that. As soon as I get my HD7 ;) | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | well i'm not sure who should get it tbh. probably either camro or wistilt. probably camro since he's basically deviceless. | 14:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | dlkfgasdhja | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln: we may be able to help with shipping as well. | 14:44 |
| Kraln | shipping isn't a problem, heh | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 14:44 |
| Kraln | the rhodium 400 (the sprint one) is GSM850,900, 1800, 1900 and UMTS900, UMTS2100 | 14:45 |
| Kraln | it'll do 3g pretty much on anything | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | ncie | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | nice* | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | well yea then definitely camro. let us know when the hd7 comes in :D | 14:46 |
| F22 | given that he sacrificed his blackstone for the greater good of everyone, i think it's fitting. | 14:47 |
| XirXes | agreed | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. just have to tell him to not break this one :P | 14:47 |
| F22 | maybe drink a little less while coding... ;) | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:48 |
| Kraln | I broke the dust screen on this one | 14:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | imjkhbrokenmklhj | 14:48 |
| Kraln | and scratched the real screen replacing the dust screen =/ | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | at least review his drunken code sober before he compiles and tests it lol | 14:48 |
| Kraln | but other than that I love it. | 14:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | Drunk coding is the best quality | 14:53 |
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| Mia | Evening All | 18:08 |
| Mia | Ok, I am a bit dumb here this evening, I downloaded the latest release and all it is once you unzip it is a .ext2 file. What the heck do I do with that? | 18:09 |
| Mia | I seem to remember there being several other files that went with booting Android in WM last time I tried it | 18:09 |
| semicolon | You simply put that in the root where XDAndroid is | 18:09 |
| Mia | Ok, so there is a base package I need in addition to the .ext2 zip | 18:10 |
| semicolon | There will already be a rootfs.ex2, rename the new *.ex2 file to that, and replace the old one. | 18:10 |
| Mia | ok, where do I get the base package? | 18:10 |
| semicolon | Yeah, and I forget where you get that O_o | 18:10 |
| Mia | the site is not really clear | 18:10 |
| semicolon | Yeah, it took me forever, and now I can't remember :( | 18:10 |
| semicolon | What is your device? | 18:10 |
| Mia | CDMA Touch Pro 2 | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | semicolon: what are you talking about? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | so Mia you downloaded an update. | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | you can't update something you don't have yet :P | 18:14 |
| semicolon | arrrghhh, what do I have wrong? | 18:14 |
| semicolon | oops | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | so if you've never downloaded android, you'll need to get the base build package. | 18:14 |
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| Mia | I downloaded what was listed as the latest version on the site | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | system.ext2 not rootfs.ext2. | 18:14 |
| Jake|E5400 | erm, yeah | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | Mia: i'm telling you that's an update. | 18:14 |
| * Jake|E5400 slaps self | 18:14 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:14 |
| Jake|E5400 | STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | Mia: you can't update something you don't have... | 18:14 |
| Jake|E5400 | OK, so she downloaded the wrong thing | 18:14 |
| Jake|E5400 | What is the RIGHT thing | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:15 |
| Mia | I went to the main page, selected download, and it links to http://files.xdandroid.com/system-FRX02.ext2.zip | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | patience | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | yes, that's an update. | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | it's a system update | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | so you've never ran android before i presume? | 18:15 |
| Jake|E5400 | perhaps that should be clarified on the download page | 18:15 |
| Jake|E5400 | because it confused the hell out of me | 18:15 |
| Mia | not on this phone, I played around with it on an old touch pro | 18:15 |
| Mia | I remember there being a Haret.exe or something like that when I tried it before long long ago | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:16 |
| Jake|E5400 | Yeah | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | that's what boots linux | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | from winmo | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.110110.rar | 18:17 |
| Jake|E5400 | That's the app that kicks winmo out and starts to boot linux. The reason for this setup is that Linux needs winmo to initialize the devices. | 18:17 |
| Jake|E5400 | uber-ninja'd :( | 18:17 |
| Mia | np, kinda figured that was a drop in update or something, just could not find the base build, thanks | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | don't need winmo to initialize much anymore. | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | maybe the ts, not sure. | 18:17 |
| Jake|E5400 | Oh really? Cool | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea, they're ready for nand. just need tinboot to get sorted out lol | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | there's actually a partial nand out there already for tp2. | 18:18 |
| Jake|E5400 | wow, cool | 18:18 |
| Mia | ok, once I have that download, what all parts do I need/should update | 18:18 |
| * Jake|E5400 doubts that the Touch Pro will get any goodies, but it's still cool | 18:18 | |
| arrrghhh | well | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | intheory you can just run it | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's from 11/1 | 18:18 |
| Mia | Well, this one is the Tough Pro 2 now | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | so the last system image (what you downloaded) was 10/23 if i'm not mistaken. | 18:18 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: startup option works. i've also consolidated the rhod navi_pad.kl's from 9 versions to 2. | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | there's zimage and rootfs updates if you're so inclined. | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | F22: you're a pimp. commit? | 18:19 |
| Mia | Just so I know, where should I have looked for the file you linked to me? | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | i got it from a ppcg thread. | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | reef maintains the builds for RHOD | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | there's a similar thread on xda-dev by the same dude. | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 | 18:20 |
| Mia | ok, so it is not listed on the install wiki really... that makes me feel better, was starting to think I was just dense or something :) | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 18:20 |
| F22 | i've like so ignored ppcg...i should create an account over there one of these days... | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | how did you get there in the first place if you don't mind me asking? | 18:20 |
| Mia | It has kinda been one of those days, so it was always possible | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | Mia: i'm just curious, i don't want newbies to get confused. it just seems most start with a thread, not going directly to xdandroid.com... | 18:21 |
| Mia | Google searching for Windows Mobile and Android | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | blah | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | no body to blame but yourself then :P | 18:21 |
| Mia | The Force was not strong with that search | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i don't think we'll put any builds on xdandroid... | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | like i said, most seem to start in a thread at xda or ppcg... | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | F22: yea ppcg i have mixed feelings about. lot of really dense people post there, but there's a lot more CDMA action over there. | 18:22 |
| F22 | yep, that's what i've heard. :P | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | they have some interesting quirks too. they have this whole 'vip membership' thing. i've helped out so many rubes, i'm now vip :P | 18:23 |
| F22 | the first i could do without, and the second i don't have. so i've been taking my time. | 18:24 |
| Mia | Ok, got the package, this looks correct now, and I assume the updated on the wiki are just drop in replacement updates for their respective files. | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. probably nothing for you there. | 18:24 |
| F22 | well congratz :P | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | Mia: like i said that package was built on 11/2 | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | er | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | 11/1 | 18:24 |
| Mia | so pretty new, but as time goes on | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | so that system update image you downloaded is already in there. | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | there's three major things to update | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | zImage/modules (always go together) | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs.img | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | and system image - you seem to have the system updates figured out lol | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ <---- rootfs updates | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ <------ zImage/modules (kernel) updates | 18:25 |
| F22 | Mia: if you prefer to do it yourself there's the AOSP package, but Reef's reference build is both more recent and has a nice little cab install that will give you a snazzy little haret icon to click on when you want to run android. | 18:26 |
| Mia | thanks, I really appreciate the hand all.. | 18:26 |
| Mia | ohhh, cab base, nice... | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol didn't linky the cab | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i hate the cab with a passion, sorry :P | 18:27 |
| Mia | no worries, I see the page now | 18:27 |
| F22 | i only installed it once, back in march, i've since replaced the entire install, -except- the icon and registry entry in windows mobile. :P | 18:28 |
| Mia | What is the feeling on this whole Blazn build? | 18:28 |
| * arrrghhh grumbles quietly in the corner about the cab... | 18:28 | |
| F22 | i like the little icon. :D | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | i love blazn | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | but it's old | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | hasn't been updated since 9.28 | 18:28 |
| F22 | Blazn is -way- behind the times. | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea. didn't get the hdpi update | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | just feels smoother. reference seems to take forever to 'settle' on first boot. | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i know blazn is oc'd, but i oc them both to the same level. | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should say after booting, because even after i have a data.img created it still seems to drag. | 18:30 |
| F22 | mine drags intermittently...it's odd... | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | well, there's that too lol | 18:31 |
| Jake|E5400 | I like the little icon :D | 18:31 |
| F22 | sometimes it's rather spry after boot...others it feels like it needs a cup of coffee first... | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | backend processes don't seem to be 'niced' correctly if you catch my drift. | 18:31 |
| Jake|E5400 | My blazn build is usually quite quick | 18:32 |
| F22 | lol, yes | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | haha i knew you would F22 :P | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | i kinda want to setup adb and just watch top to see where the drags actually originate from. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | that's just my theory at the moment. | 18:33 |
| F22 | go for it. :D | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | for whatever reason adb refuses to work on my work pc now. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get it, but this is why i hate adb on winblows. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i may be using a different usb port, and it seems to think it's a new device. problem is it won't accept the drivers this time. blah. | 18:34 |
| Jake|E5400 | Linux FTW | 18:34 |
| F22 | i have no problems with adb on ubuntu. :D | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i haven't either. not much choice at work tho :P | 18:35 |
| Jake|E5400 | I'm actually installing Ubuntu 8.04LTS on my 550MHz PIII | 18:35 |
| F22 | can't convince them to let you run dual boot. | 18:35 |
| F22 | ? | 18:35 |
| Jake|E5400 | Flash drive, bro. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | well, what business-purpose would that have? | 18:35 |
| Jake|E5400 | Freedom from winderz? | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | besides, i couldn't even pretend to work if i'm booting between ubuntu and win lol | 18:35 |
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| arrrghhh | Jake|E5400: i said business-purpose, not personal :P | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | i tried running a vm, but this laptop ain't so strong in the hardware dept. | 18:36 |
| Jake|E5400 | You can eat more tacos. | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | i looooooooooooove tacos! | 18:36 |
| F22 | most laptops, aside from the highly pricey ones aren't. | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | it's not too bad, just not so great at running 2 oses at the same time :P | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | core2 duo w/2gb of ram... | 18:37 |
| Jake|E5400 | I'm known as the Taco King at school. | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | that has too many alternate meanings, | 18:39 |
| Jake|E5400 | yep | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | :D | 18:40 |
| F22 | lol | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | I've found most girls like.... y'know, I'm not even going there. | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | oh school. sometimes i miss it. only when i'm at work. | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | lol | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | Yesterday was a very odd day | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | One of my friends (male) told me he was bi, and another one of my friends (female) told me SHE was bi. | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | And they both love me. | 18:40 |
| Jake|E5400 | -_- | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | creepy. | 18:41 |
| Jake|E5400 | They both actually said they want to sleep with me. | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | sooooooo F22 didja get that new stuff committed? | 18:41 |
| Jake|E5400 | Yeah, back to linux :D | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. i want that crap committed. i'm assuming this'll mean changes to the startup.txt depending on which button layout you desire? | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | crap, awesome work, same diff :P | 18:42 |
| F22 | lol, not yet, digging for how to preset that Accessibility option within android... Once that's done, i can see about committing a lot of this stuff. | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | can't wait | 18:42 |
| F22 | glad you're thrilled | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | glad i'm not the one committing it :D | 18:43 |
| F22 | git is a pain in the backside...a very powerful pain in the backside... :P | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 18:44 |
| F22 | i don't hate it, it just has a rather steep learning curve. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i'm getting used to reading the trees. forget about pushing commits tho, i'm not near that step :P | 18:45 |
| F22 | stine said i could file bug reports even for new features, and attach my patches to them. | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 18:47 |
| F22 | i'll probably put up a few tomorrow. | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | probably the easiest way | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | XDAndroid - Patches Welcome :D | 18:47 |
| F22 | i created a bugzilla account earlier today. ;) | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | i probably need to go thru and prune some more. | 18:50 |
| F22 | i nearly posted a patch last night, but the issue with endcall key distracted me away from it. | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | i never even looked at accessibility - good find. | 18:54 |
| F22 | it's kind of funny, i had started digging in the kernel for the changes i'd need to make, when the magic of google search brought me an easier solution. | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 18:55 |
| F22 | now the question is, do we want to make b4 home by default, or leave it as endcall? i suppose the latter would result in the fewest complaints from existing users since that's what they're used to. but in terms of functionality, nobody is really happy with the current layout. in my poll, 15 people have voted to change it, and only 1 to keep things the way they are. Problem is, we're split on what the change should be. 10 in favor of mapping | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim. | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'm thinking the "best" option is leave it as it is | 18:57 |
| F22 | best in terms of fewest complaints... ;) | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | and give them a keymap option, so they can choose how they want it to act in the startup.txt | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | which is the best, no? lol | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | if we change it again, they won't understand | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | we'll drive business to apple! | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol i keep trying to imagine this project as if it was a company. makes me giggle. | 18:58 |
| F22 | not sure if i'd agree from the perspective of a novice xdandroid user. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | what would be best for those newbies. | 18:58 |
| F22 | i'd want full functionality with minimum of fuss. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | i always thought the closest to winmo would be best. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | haha see we don't agree there. | 18:58 |
| F22 | i suppose that depends on whether or not they really like the way winmo handles the keys. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | closest to winmo makes sense to me for newbies, because then the buttons match what they're supposed to do. | 18:59 |
| Jake|E5400 | I love winmo | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | yes, now we're in the realm of individual opinion. | 18:59 |
| * arrrghhh stabs Jake|E5400 in the eye | 18:59 | |
| Jake|E5400 | Yep | 18:59 |
| F22 | i'm not one of those people who has had 10 winmo devices before now. | 18:59 |
| Jake|E5400 | I want to get on the PPCGeeks podcast so I can be the lone WinMo fanboy | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:59 |
| F22 | the tp2 is my first, and i can't stand the os. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | i've had... 5 winmo devices i think. | 19:00 |
| F22 | it's too convoluted and cumbersome. | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:00 |
| Jake|E5400 | WinMo is more like a skeleton OS you put your own UI on top of | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | always been like this too :P but back in the day, it was all there was. | 19:00 |
| F22 | htc sense is nice, but it's like putting pretty lipstick on a pig. :P | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | i loved it because i could hack the crap out of it. | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | kinky | 19:00 |
| F22 | lol | 19:00 |
| F22 | old saying | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i know. | 19:01 |
| Jake|E5400 | lol | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i'm older than i... type? not sure how that works. | 19:01 |
| F22 | lol | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i'm older than my handle would imply? lol | 19:01 |
| Jake|E5400 | sense is pretty good, mobile shell is good, maxsense is great, etc. | 19:01 |
| F22 | i like sense, but it's only good for a few common tasks. | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | i always liked pointui or whatever. | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | damnit, of course the forum i was going to linky to seems to be down. | 19:03 |
| Jake|E5400 | lol | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.connect-utb.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=407 | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | finally. PointSense | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | not a huge fan of sense in general tho. i'd prefer actual android to it any day of the week :P | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | http://community.pointui.com/topic/suite-video-preview-pointsense-suite-v2-make-it-mine | 19:06 |
| F22 | give me stock android with sense widgets... :P | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | that's probably a better thread. | 19:06 |
| Jake|E5400 | meh, the sense SPB mobileshell is better | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | we can all agree winmo sucks and call it a day methinks. | 19:07 |
| F22 | yes, but...winfo7 is getting a lot of love from the reviewers...i'm doubtful it will make much of a difference at this point however. | 19:08 |
| F22 | the only ace MS has up its sleeves is xbox games... | 19:09 |
| Jake|E5400 | I'll never agree on that one | 19:09 |
| Jake|E5400 | WP7 is rubbish. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea, nothing about wp7 really appeals to me. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | seems like they're aiming at the iPhone rather than the Android market. | 19:10 |
| F22 | the xbox is very popular, and it gives MS a shot at making a comeback if they play it right. | 19:10 |
| Jake|E5400 | They took WM, took out the good stuff, and turned it into an iPhone-ized relatively closed platform | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | although it seems like people are going to be able to hack up wp7 despite m$'s claims. | 19:10 |
| Jake|E5400 | To quote Mike Chambers: "lol shitsux" | 19:10 |
| Jake|E5400 | Oh really? links :3 | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | there was some poop on xda | 19:11 |
| F22 | by tying wp7 to xbox games MS could turn wp7 into the gaming phone of choice. | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | i'd never buy an xbox. bleh | 19:12 |
| F22 | they seem highly popular among teen males these days. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | but i could care less about halo. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'd prefer to have a platform that works, and can stream media. | 19:13 |
| F22 | me too. but i'm speaking from a marketing perspective. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'm certainly not a normal 'market'. | 19:13 |
| * arrrghhh has high expectations when he drops $500 on a piece of hardware. | 19:14 | |
| F22 | i wish we could clone wistilt2 a few times... :P | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | bah. maybe it was ppcg i read it. | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol seriously. | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | methinks his code monkeys help more than he lets on, but i don't care. | 19:15 |
| F22 | lol | 19:15 |
| F22 | i'm kind of surprised none of his code monkeys ever pop on and say hello if they're putting effort into the project. | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | he must beat them religiously. | 19:16 |
| F22 | lol | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | when did you last see him? I haven't seen him since saturday... dude comes in, fixes 10 things and then leaves for a week. bleh. | 19:17 |
| F22 | i like him. :D | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea he's definitely breathed some life into this project. | 19:17 |
| F22 | pity he isn't on more often though. | 19:17 |
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| arrrghhh | yea, running a business is pretty intense i would imagine. | 19:18 |
| F22 | no doubt | 19:18 |
| F22 | last i saw him was sunday | 19:18 |
| F22 | that was the night your girlfriend shackled you to her bed from what i recall... ;) | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | shhhhhh | 19:20 |
| F22 | oops, didn't realize that was supposed to be a secret. :P | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i spend my day at work on a computer, so she doesn't like it when i come home and spend the rest of the night on the computer | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i can understand where she's comin from, but damnit this is me. i always spend a lot of time on computers lol | 19:20 |
| F22 | lol | 19:20 |
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| arrrghhh | looks like ppcg uses IIS... :S | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | ah well. homeward bound, cya guys. | 20:01 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 58 filed... | 20:35 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, External Speaker shuts off on Rhiodium 400 with latest update 11-08-10 | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | there is no "external speakerphone switch" | 20:58 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 58 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. | 21:00 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED INVALID, External Speaker shuts off on Rhiodium 400 with latest update 11-08-10 | 21:00 |
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| coolbtk | good evening | 22:14 |
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| coolbtk | is the clock runni,g slow in xdandroid a known issue, or is it just me and/or my device? | 22:15 |
| coolbtk | I got this Fuze secondhand and installed xdandroid right away, so I'm not sure if the clock runs slow in WM as well or not. | 22:17 |
| coolbtk | it's genenrally about 5 seconds slow every 15 minutes, but it fluctuates. | 22:18 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 59 filed... | 22:33 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=59 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Mic switch begins to blink and external speaker quits working with sound becoming very low. | 22:33 |
| xdandroid | vol_4_life changed the Status on bug 58 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. | 22:44 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58 normal, Normal, ---, developers, REOPENED, External Speaker shuts off on Rhiodium 400 with latest update 11-08-10 | 22:44 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 60 filed... | 22:51 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=60 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Attempt to boot with overclock at 768 does not work on RHOD 400 with 11-08-10 update | 22:51 |
| stinebd | oh please | 23:01 |
| xdandroid | stinebd changed the Status on bug 60 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. | 23:03 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=60 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED INVALID, Attempt to boot with overclock at 768 does not work on RHOD 400 with 11-08-10 update | 23:03 |
| coolbtk | lol | 23:16 |
| F22 | *snicker* | 23:22 |
| xdandroid | stinebd marked bug 59 as a duplicate of bug 58. | 23:23 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=59 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Mic switch begins to blink and external speaker quits working with sound becoming very low. | 23:23 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=58 normal, Normal, ---, developers, REOPENED, External Speaker shuts off on Rhiodium 400 with latest update 11-08-10 | 23:23 |
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| arrrghhh | damnit | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | what is this monkey talking about | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | when downloading apps from the market, his external speaker turns off. that's about one of the craziest things i've heard. | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | what is his speaker doing on when downloading apps from the market anyways? | 23:58 |
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