| arrrghhh | yea i bet that is it dude | 00:03 |
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| arrrghhh | i had him flip it on/off several times, shows up every time. | 00:04 |
| F22 | yep, i'm fairly certain of it at this poin. | 00:05 |
| F22 | point. | 00:05 |
| F22 | those errors are from dhd_sdio.c | 00:05 |
| F22 | relating to the bcm4329 wireless chip | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | do you remember ever having to put in the MAC manually? | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | i remember seeing posts about that. putting it in the startup.txt i think... | 00:10 |
| * arrrghhh searches | 00:10 | |
| F22 | i've never manually entered my mac address. | 00:10 |
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| F22 | in the old days i recall having to configure interfaces and setting up routes by hand though... | 00:12 |
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| arrrghhh_ | seems there is a wtf..? | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh_ | damnit. | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh_ | there is a wifi.mac command evidently. | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh_ | 1 sec | 00:15 |
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| arrrghhh | bleh | 00:15 |
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| arrrghhh | wl1251_mac=xxxxxxxxx | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | never seen it. | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | i had to go back to june tho | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | i've only owned my tp2 since like august or something lol | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | bedtime | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | g'nite | 00:24 |
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| F22 | g'nite | 00:29 |
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| babijoee | hello | 06:45 |
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| arrrghhh | what's up babijoee long time no talk! | 09:25 |
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| babijoee | nmnm | 09:55 |
| babijoee | just finished my exam | 09:55 |
| babijoee | :) | 09:55 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 09:58 |
| arrrghhh | feel good? | 09:58 |
| babijoee | free as a bird | 09:58 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 09:59 |
| babijoee | yeah | 09:59 |
| babijoee | all of a sudden | 09:59 |
| babijoee | i have free time :p | 09:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea haven't seen you post in a while either | 10:00 |
| babijoee | yeah | 10:00 |
| babijoee | i was going on a rampage :p | 10:00 |
| babijoee | i need to get over 9000 now :p | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:01 |
| arrrghhh | crap | 10:02 |
| arrrghhh | bug 41 | 10:02 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=41 blocker, Highest, ---, developers, NEW, No sound on incoming calls | 10:02 |
| babijoee | ugh | 10:02 |
| arrrghhh | I guess I should ask how it works on stinebd's build, although it shouldn't matter. | 10:03 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. not sure who has a rhod100. | 10:05 |
| ftvm | hello all | 10:07 |
| ftvm | hello arrghhh ! | 10:08 |
| ftvm | how are you ... | 10:08 |
| ftvm | thanx ... i'm very happy ... for the wifi | 10:08 |
| arrrghhh | glad to hear it's fixed. | 10:09 |
| ftvm | wifi work fine !!! | 10:09 |
| arrrghhh | need to follow directions more closely ;) | 10:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea, amazing when you put the files in the correct location, how it makes things work lol | 10:09 |
| ftvm | yes yes i'm confused ... sorry | 10:09 |
| ftvm | my other problem on diam 100 ... the sound stutters ... | 10:10 |
| ftvm | the bug #52 | 10:11 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=52 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Sound stutters in the media about every 10 seconds | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what that one is. | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | probably need logs from that too. | 10:13 |
| ftvm | it is not imaginary, unfortunately | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | well neither was your wifi problem | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | you're saying sound is fine in older kernels tho? | 10:14 |
| ftvm | yes ... lol | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | ...which kernel does it start working in? | 10:14 |
| ftvm | euh ... | 10:16 |
| ftvm | to kernel: zImage_20101005_005810 | 10:18 |
| ftvm | after ... the sound is stutters every 10 seconds in listening media or ring ... | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | there was an update to the battery code on 1/5 | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | er | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | 10/5 | 10:20 |
| ftvm | ok ok ... | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | that's a pretty big commit. although it shouldn't touch sound... perhaps something is choking the system in the background messing with sound. | 10:21 |
| ftvm | ok ok ... no problem the same bug is signaled on xda forum ... | 10:22 |
| ftvm | this is not imaginary ... lol ... this time !!! | 10:22 |
| arrrghhh | haha i know.l | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not even sure what logs would be useful | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | probably logcat more so than dmesg.. | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | did we get adb setup on your phone? | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't remember. | 10:23 |
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| ftvm | yes yes ... no problem for adb now | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | oh excellent. | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | so same drill | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | recreate the sound issue | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | grab a dmesg & logcat | 10:24 |
| ftvm | yes yes ... more time !!! lol | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | haha no worries. | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | we'll probably need to have someone smart look at the logs tho :P | 10:25 |
| ftvm | now I have to go working ! | 10:25 |
| ftvm | yes, no problem | 10:26 |
| ftvm | this evening ... i make this | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh ok | 10:26 |
| ftvm | sorry for my english | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | eh i can understand you. | 10:26 |
| ftvm | aurevoir | 10:26 |
| ftvm | bye ... | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 10:26 |
| babijoee | well i catch u guys around 2morz | 10:26 |
| babijoee | abit tired | 10:26 |
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| htc | hi | 10:58 |
| htc | can i boot xdandroid for htc hd mini t5555?? | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | probably not. | 10:58 |
| htc | y? | 10:59 |
| htc | hello? | 10:59 |
| htc | hey colorado boy | 11:00 |
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| arrrghhh | dick. | 11:01 |
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| XirXes | god the hd mini is wierd. 320x240 res. msm7227 600 mhz. 384 mb ram | 11:04 |
| XirXes | i entirely doubt xdandroid would work on it | 11:04 |
| arrrghhh | probably not. | 11:04 |
| arrrghhh | he's just jealous my state is pretty. although he's from germany... tool. | 11:05 |
| XirXes | what did you guys need me for last night? | 11:05 |
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| arrrghhh | logs | 11:07 |
| arrrghhh | wanted to compare how your 210 connects to wifi to the ones that don't. | 11:07 |
| arrrghhh | seems to be a mac addr issue | 11:07 |
| arrrghhh | and pitflyer's ears must've been burning. | 11:07 |
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| pitflyer | Hi, does that wifi.mac=XX setting go into my startup.txt? | 11:07 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:09 |
| arrrghhh | in the cmdline section | 11:09 |
| arrrghhh | between the quotes | 11:09 |
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| pitflyer | So this : | 11:13 |
| pitflyer | set cmdline "wifi.mac=AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=0 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=2 acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=716800 rel_path=andboot hw3d.force=1 physkeyboard=Tilt2" | 11:13 |
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| ftvm | hello | 11:14 |
| ftvm | re | 11:14 |
| XirXes | how do I dump to file. dmesg > sdcard\dmesg.txt is saying it cant write. read only file system | 11:15 |
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| XirXes | i got it. i had to cd to sdcard first | 11:18 |
| pitflyer | no change after setting wifi mac in startup.txt .. will post dmesg/logcat | 11:18 |
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| XirXes | arrrghhh: earlier you were talking about the updated battery code possibly being related to the stuttering sound. and I believe it. [BATT] is always spamming dmesg now. it polls way to often' | 11:30 |
| XirXes | dmesg http://pastebin.com/bsJRRZzg | 11:31 |
| XirXes | logcat http://pastebin.com/meEQUp4i | 11:33 |
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| arrrghhh | i wonder if there's a way to disable | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | heyhey the man himself. camro. | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | what's up | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | hammy too. hamagc your diam... ever listen to songs on it or play with ringtones? | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | i guess they stutter now, ever since the 10/5 kernel. | 11:41 |
| hamagc | not lately, i can test it out real quick | 11:41 |
| ftvm | hello ... | 11:41 |
| hamagc | hello | 11:41 |
| ftvm | i was posting my logcat and dmesg ... for the problem sound stutter | 11:42 |
| arrrghhh | excellent. | 11:42 |
| ftvm | http://pastebin.com/Q6JMyU9b | 11:46 |
| ftvm | http://pastebin.com/nVFBEkcb | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea between the battery stuff | 11:47 |
| arrrghhh | and the autobl stuff | 11:47 |
| arrrghhh | dmesg seems to be getting spammed quite frequently :P | 11:47 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm: you have a bug on that right? be sure to attach those logs to that bug. | 11:48 |
| arrrghhh | audpp: DMA missed - i should see if i have these as well. | 11:48 |
| ftvm | oh ... to wake the device is painful! | 11:49 |
| hamagc | listening to an mp3 no stuttering | 11:49 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:49 |
| arrrghhh | not sure how this one could be user error... | 11:49 |
| hamagc | hmm | 11:49 |
| ftvm | hmmmmmm | 11:49 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure there's a way tho. | 11:50 |
| hamagc | maybe i should update some more | 11:50 |
| hamagc | i may have an older system | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | what kernel are you on? | 11:50 |
| hamagc | also i'm in airplane mode, not sure if that'll make a difference | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:50 |
| hamagc | the one i got yesterday, 11/6? | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | newest kernel is 11/3 i believe | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | ja | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | 20101103_215747 | 11:50 |
| hamagc | 11/3 | 11:50 |
| hamagc | yep | 11:50 |
| hamagc | but i'm also on frx01 | 11:51 |
| ftvm | you want, i post my log in the attach bugtracker ? | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm: yes please. in the but for stuttering sound. | 11:51 |
| ftvm | ok | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm: are you on frx02? | 11:52 |
| ftvm | no problem | 11:52 |
| ftvm | frx02 yes | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | system image definitely could effect it. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | you mind hamagc ? | 11:52 |
| hamagc | not at all, let me download it | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 11:52 |
| ftvm | you want, i test on frx01 ??? | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | eh up to you. | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'd prefer to make sure stuff works on the newest. | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | if it doesn't, then we'd like to sort out the why part ;) | 11:54 |
| ftvm | ok ... i add my dmesg and logcat on the bugtracker !!! it's ok | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | coolio | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | thanks | 11:59 |
| ftvm | this could be corrected with zImage? | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | dunno what the problem is | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | if it's kernel or userland related. | 12:03 |
| ftvm | ok ... yes | 12:04 |
| ftvm | my test with data.img clear ... | 12:08 |
| ftvm | but the problem more .... terrible ... is wake the device !!!! | 12:09 |
| ftvm | this is very shit shit shit lol | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | get your money back. | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | seriously, if that's your reaction just stick to winmo. | 12:10 |
| ftvm | I even fear to break the button on | 12:11 |
| hamagc | so angry birds broke lastnight | 12:11 |
| ftvm | yes no problem ... i give ... for you !!! | 12:11 |
| hamagc | new update won't play on my stock moment :( | 12:11 |
| ftvm | and give for mr kernel lol | 12:12 |
| ftvm | I've given some money for the project no problem ! | 12:13 |
| ftvm | this is normal | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh no. | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | no angry birds, what ever will you do... | 12:13 |
| ftvm | This does not obligate you in any way, to work on my small problems ... if there are more important things | 12:15 |
| ftvm | the important thing above all to share things ... and with nice people | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | ...ok | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | just don't say it's shit then :P | 12:17 |
| ftvm | yes ... this is joke ... | 12:17 |
| ftvm | but ... is true ... fear ... to destroy the button | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | uh. k. | 12:19 |
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| ONDR4SH3K | Hi, I need someone, who haveaccess to http://xdandroid.com/wiki/ | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | why | 12:20 |
| ONDR4SH3K | Write tutorial for USB connect to PC and manage your files and install apk and so one ... | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | an adb tut? | 12:22 |
| ONDR4SH3K | It wYes | 12:22 |
| ONDR4SH3K | sry ... yes | 12:22 |
| XirXes | you should be able to post it but it wont show up till stinebd accepts the canges | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | i think there already is one, it just may not be on the wiki. correct me if i'm wrong. | 12:22 |
| XirXes | *changes | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | that's true, you just have to create an acct. | 12:22 |
| ONDR4SH3K | i wrote in xda forum | 12:23 |
| ftvm | i search for ... working an ftp ... with wifi ... but firewall on android | 12:23 |
| ftvm | you have idea ? | 12:23 |
| ftvm | for manage files ... directly | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | ftp doesn't work in android!?? | 12:24 |
| ftvm | i installed an application ftp | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | what are you talking about? | 12:24 |
| ftvm | ftp server ... i speak | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | so you have an ftp server you need to connect to? | 12:25 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: Look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9112190&postcount=3370 | 12:25 |
| ftvm | yes ... for manage files of device, directly | 12:25 |
| ftvm | with the wifi connect | 12:25 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: I post screenshot, wait | 12:26 |
| XirXes | if you use windows you can just use explorer | 12:26 |
| ftvm | but ... I can not even do a ping | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm: you need to explain better. | 12:27 |
| XirXes | put in ftp://user:pass@ip.address/ | 12:27 |
| ftvm | not ping, not access for ip address of android device ... | 12:27 |
| ftvm | firewall on device ??? | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 12:28 |
| ftvm | lol | 12:28 |
| XirXes | yes android does have port restrictions built in | 12:28 |
| ftvm | i unknow ... | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | it does? | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:28 |
| XirXes | but the program should open them | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | that's news to me. | 12:28 |
| XirXes | well the telnet port is always blocked | 12:28 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: http://ondr4sh3k.cekuj.net/DE.JPG | 12:28 |
| ftvm | grrrrrrr, i unknow ... i not access ! | 12:28 |
| XirXes | likely others | 12:28 |
| ftvm | i using port 1024 on ftp server | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | i can ping google | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | thru the ip | 12:29 |
| ftvm | but ... not ping the device ... with good address | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | you can ping it from your PC? | 12:30 |
| ftvm | ping device from pc ... i speak ! | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | is that a yes? | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | ONDR4SH3K: i know how droid explorer and adb work. so what? | 12:30 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: I dont find any tutorial for this | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | i think there is one. | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | just not on the wiki | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | there probably should be one, you're right. | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | i just have no clue where to put it lol | 12:31 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: Yes :) | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | adb is more for advanced users anyways. | 12:32 |
| ONDR4SH3K | arrrghhh: Just put somewhere :D | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 12:33 |
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| hamagc | ok finally | 12:38 |
| hamagc | listening to another mp3, sounds nice and smooth | 12:39 |
| hamagc | no stuttering or anything | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | bah. | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | user-error. | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm: stick to winmo. | 12:40 |
| ftvm | yesssssssssssssss | 12:40 |
| hamagc | what device is he on? | 12:41 |
| ftvm | but ... i unknow the problem ! | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | diam100 | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i think | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i unknow the problem as well. | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | but you for some reason decided to put one file in one location, and the rest of the files in another location. who knows what else you've done. | 12:42 |
| ftvm | no no ... now all is correctly ! | 12:43 |
| hamagc | best guess at this point is to double check the mp3 to make sure it's not the music that has issues, reformat the internal memory to make sure it's not a format problem, then with a fresh data.img play an mp3 before adding anything to the system | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | he said ringtones do it too hamagc | 12:43 |
| hamagc | hmm | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | format may be in order tho. | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | hp tool | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | full format | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | fat32 | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | no game | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | *s | 12:43 |
| hamagc | does the phone lag more than usual? | 12:44 |
| ONDR4SH3K | I just testing battery life with overclocking | 12:44 |
| ftvm | yes the phone lag ... sometimes | 12:44 |
| ONDR4SH3K | *I´m | 12:44 |
| ftvm | no overclocking yes ... | 12:44 |
| hamagc | odds are if the phone is lagging, the music and tones will lag. test it with a new data.img and see if it's something thats installed messing you up. | 12:45 |
| ftvm | but ... problem with internal memory ... it's possible | 12:45 |
| hamagc | ya i'd def. format too | 12:45 |
| ftvm | yes, i work new data.img | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | you work that data.img | 12:45 |
| ftvm | ok ... i was test this ... | 12:49 |
| ftvm | i report more time, no problem | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 12:50 |
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| hamagc | lol huh? | 12:50 |
| ftvm | thank you .. best regard | 12:50 |
| ftvm | bye | 12:50 |
| hamagc | i think he means he fixed it | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | i guess. | 12:51 |
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| arrrghhh | perhaps he needs to type in french, and we just throw everything he says in google translate lol | 12:53 |
| hamagc | lol right | 12:53 |
| hamagc | might work better | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming he's fixed tho. | 12:53 |
| hamagc | x-plane. i want it | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | man i gotta quit trusting what users tell me. | 12:53 |
| hamagc | lol it's like insurance. assume everyone is lying. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | rule #1 is don't trust users. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | freakin emailed my vendor for one of our products, because i trusted a user. it was user-error, nothing was wrong with the system :S | 12:54 |
| hamagc | lol love it! | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea, the vendor didn't so much hahaha | 12:55 |
| hamagc | how are you with linux? | 12:57 |
| hamagc | a samsung dev is trying to get wifi working but is having a problem with ubuntu. said it was working, booted into windows7 to do something, now back in ubuntu and can't get wireless to turn on | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | what, on a pc? | 12:59 |
| hamagc | ya | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | apparently i'm tech support for all? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | i know a fair amount. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | probably something silly, like right click on nm-applet and 'enable wireless' methinks | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | or mebets? | 13:00 |
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| hamagc | nothing lol | 13:15 |
| hamagc | he is going to usb tether. pita | 13:15 |
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| arrrghhh | is he on irc? | 13:18 |
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| hamagc | he was, just quit. sdx-developers | 13:26 |
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| ftvm | hello ... | 13:27 |
| ftvm | re | 13:27 |
| ftvm | please ... | 13:28 |
| ftvm | before formatting my internal card, you can control myself if my startup file and conf are correct? | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | you want us to verify that your startup.txt is correct? | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | what conf? | 13:29 |
| ftvm | startup.txt and user.froyo.conf | 13:32 |
| ftvm | for my diam | 13:32 |
| ftvm | http://pastebin.com/9r3RLDeu | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | just delete the acpuclock.oc | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | if you're not using it | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | also | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | board-htcraphael-navi.wake=1" | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | why is that outside of the quotes? | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | you threw another quote on the end of it looks like lol | 13:35 |
| hamagc | lol thats funny | 13:37 |
| ftvm | ok, i verify | 13:37 |
| hamagc | acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=500000 - thats completely pointless. thats actually requesting an underclock on the process of 28mhz | 13:37 |
| ftvm | yes ... ok | 13:38 |
| ftvm | i suppress ... acpuclock ??? | 13:39 |
| ftvm | ok ... | 13:40 |
| ftvm | my user.froyo.conf ... | 13:41 |
| ftvm | http://pastebin.com/hWLAP2b7 | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | delete the acpuclock | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | did you modify the froyo.user.conf? | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | the one that 'comes with it' should be sufficient. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | about the only thing i add is rm -f /sdcard/fsck*.rec which you have. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | did you adjust the swappiness? | 13:43 |
| ftvm | lol ... it is not I who am writing this startup file ... I copied it somewhere! | 13:43 |
| hamagc | yep, thats all thats been done there recently | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | did you touch anything on the froyo.user.conf...? | 13:44 |
| ftvm | no | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | should be fine then. | 13:45 |
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| ftvm | ok thanx ... | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | don't go changing things if you don't know what they do ;) | 13:45 |
| ftvm | :) | 13:45 |
| ftvm | ok | 13:47 |
| ftvm | this rm -f /sdcard/fsck*.rec ???? what ??? | 13:47 |
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| hamagc | that deletes the *******.rec files that appear on the root of your sdcard everything you run android | 13:48 |
| ftvm | ok | 13:49 |
| ftvm | i keep this ... | 13:49 |
| ftvm | ??? | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | it's harmless. | 13:49 |
| ftvm | ok | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | just gets rid of the junk basically. | 13:50 |
| ftvm | ok ... i test again ... with the modify | 13:51 |
| ftvm | and if mp3 always not working ... i format ... with hptools | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | ... you make my brain hurt. | 13:52 |
| ftvm | yes ... sorry | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:53 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Jimmy M., who says: Thanks to the whole team for the great work achieved so far! | 14:29 |
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| hamagc | has anyone heard of this x-plane flight simulator for android? | 14:38 |
| hamagc | i'm trying to find a leaked copy or something | 14:38 |
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| hamagc | i see videos of it on android but no releases and nothing anywhere | 14:39 |
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| TheDeadCPU | "Like any phone, its got hardware, which means with the right programming knowledge you can port, or create an OS for it. Its not spectacular." | 14:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | wth | 14:40 |
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| ftvm | hello hamagc ... in few minutes ... i have the result ... i formating my internal storage | 14:51 |
| hamagc | ok | 14:59 |
| XirXes | xplane is an open source competitor to ms flight sim. its been around for a few years | 15:03 |
| hamagc | for i can only find articles about it coming to android. i'm just looking for a good flight sim. i've already beat winds of steel and skies of fury | 15:04 |
| XirXes | i just found a youtube video of it running on a nexus. looks pretty sweet | 15:06 |
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| ftvm | ok ... | 15:11 |
| ftvm | for me ... sound always stuttering ... :( | 15:11 |
| ftvm | formating internal storage ... and recopy one file mp3 | 15:12 |
| ftvm | i'tested sound of ringtone ... same | 15:12 |
| ftvm | the stuttering is special ... but all every interval 10 seconds | 15:13 |
| hamagc | ya it looks amazing but there is no date for release and | 15:17 |
| hamagc | ftvm: i don't know what to suggest. did it stutter with a new data.img? | 15:17 |
| ftvm | oh sorry ... i missed, new data.img | 15:18 |
| ftvm | i keep last data.img but empty ... | 15:18 |
| hamagc | hmm. i can't reproduce the issue and your the only one i've heard of with the issue so far so suggestions are slim. | 15:19 |
| hamagc | do the tones and mp3's play normally in winmo? | 15:19 |
| ftvm | yes ... | 15:19 |
| ftvm | mp3 play normally on old image ... :( on android also | 15:19 |
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| F22 | ftvm: were you one of the ones with a 210 that were having wifi trouble yesterday? | 15:24 |
| ftvm | no 210 | 15:25 |
| ftvm | diam 100 yes | 15:25 |
| ftvm | it's me | 15:25 |
| F22 | ah | 15:26 |
| F22 | too many bugs still :P | 15:26 |
| ftvm | yes yes | 15:27 |
| ftvm | yesterday ... the bug ... was user error | 15:27 |
| F22 | it happens | 15:27 |
| ftvm | on xda forum ... same problem reported ... | 15:29 |
| ftvm | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692&page=338 | 15:29 |
| ftvm | about stuttering ... | 15:29 |
| F22 | arrrghhh, the mac address should be in /data/wifi-nvram.txt | 15:30 |
| F22 | that's where init writes it. | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | how do you do that at boot tho? | 15:31 |
| F22 | probably easier to just write it to /proc/calibration which is the default spot for it that the kernel checks. | 15:34 |
| F22 | assuming they actually have a functional wifi-nvram.txt | 15:34 |
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| F22 | that file contains configuration info for the bc4329 wifi chip. | 15:35 |
| F22 | not just the mac address, but other stuff too | 15:35 |
| F22 | that doesn't explain however why they're having the problem that they are. | 15:35 |
| F22 | i have yet to see anything which would explain why some rhods work and others don't. | 15:36 |
| F22 | pitflyer's log clearly shows that the kernel is failing to load nvram. | 15:37 |
| F22 | why is the question | 15:37 |
| ftvm | I'll retest from the kernel or the sound is no longer stutter -> zImage_20101005_005810 | 15:38 |
| hamagc | 10/5 didn't stutter, but after that it did? | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | it's failing to load nvram? | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | that doesn't sound good. | 15:40 |
| ftvm | I am obliged to accompany the corresponding module? | 15:40 |
| hamagc | huh? | 15:40 |
| F22 | init actually digs nvram out of flash memory and writes it to /data/wifi-nvram.txt | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | well XirXes i think we still could use that log from you. | 15:41 |
| ftvm | yes hamagc .. but I have to test !!! | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | you already posted them. | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 15:42 |
| F22 | so if you do a: ./adb shell cat /data/wifi-nvram.txt | 15:43 |
| F22 | you'll see the info for your handset. | 15:43 |
| F22 | er modify the adb path as appropriate | 15:44 |
| F22 | you could also have them pull that file and post it. | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | [ 126.497558] dhdsdio_download_nvram: error downloading vars: -1 [ 126.497619] _dhdsdio_download_firmware: dongle nvram file download failed [ 128.723571] dhd_bus_rxctl: resumed on timeout [ 128.723663] dhd_preinit_ioctls: can't get MAC address , error=-110 [ 128.723724] dhdsdio_probe: failed | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | so that's the issue for sure. | 15:46 |
| F22 | yup | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | now we just need to figure out why nvram file couldn't be downloaded. | 15:46 |
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| F22 | now let's see if my self-compiled FRX02 works... | 16:00 |
| ftvm | hamagc> you have a diam 100 also ? | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | he's got all sorts of phones | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | none that are new tho :P | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | what is it tho a diam500? | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | i forget what the sprint version of the diam is. | 16:06 |
| ftvm | i test zImage201005 and sound is stutter but stutter very light ... | 16:06 |
| hamagc | diam500 | 16:07 |
| ftvm | diam500 is cdma ? | 16:07 |
| hamagc | yes sir | 16:08 |
| ftvm | ok | 16:08 |
| ftvm | my device is gsm | 16:08 |
| hamagc | i can't imagine that being the issue. i haven't heard of other diam100 havings issues | 16:08 |
| hamagc | i did see the report of the blackstone having an issue but thats a different device alltogether | 16:09 |
| ftvm | oh yes | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea blackstone is very different. | 16:10 |
| ftvm | with this image ... zImage201005, the stutter is very light ... but last zImage, this is terrible !!! lol | 16:10 |
| XirXes | my logs are in the channel somewhere. do you want me to re link them? | 16:10 |
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| XirXes | dmesg: http://pastebin.com/bsJRRZzg logcat: http://pastebin.com/meEQUp4i | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: found 'em | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | no worries. | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | ah well. | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | thanks :P | 16:11 |
| XirXes | lol | 16:11 |
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| arrrghhh | is there a kernel command we can pass that'll disable a lot of the battery debug message? | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | messages* | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling that would at least improve the stutter. | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | also, hamagc - have you compared his startup & user.conf with yours? | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | i recall that there was some setting in the user.conf specific to the DIAM that improved something... | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | RAM? dunno. | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | some number. | 16:13 |
| hamagc | no, let me look | 16:13 |
| ftvm | yes yes ... if you want :) | 16:13 |
| hamagc | ok i see a couple of differences | 16:16 |
| hamagc | now mine is from the raph800 but the files are default so should not be different | 16:16 |
| hamagc | chmod 777 /etc/dbus.conf is missing | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | *shouldn't* matter | 16:16 |
| hamagc | cc_disksize=95 # Ram swap disksize - any number between 1 to 98 should work; default is 1/4 of the RAM (24) - mine is set to 100 | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | THAT one | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | yours is 100!?? | 16:17 |
| ftvm | as saying arrrgh, it could come from the battery update code | 16:18 |
| hamagc | from mine: cc_disksize=100# Ram swap disksize - any number between 1 to 98 should work; default is 1/4 of the RAM (24) | 16:18 |
| hamagc | let me boot the diam500 | 16:19 |
| hamagc | was your post from the froyo.user.conf? | 16:19 |
| hamagc | or the eclair.user.conf? | 16:19 |
| hamagc | same on my diam500, cc_disksize=100 | 16:20 |
| ftvm | my is froyo.user.conf | 16:21 |
| hamagc | ok | 16:21 |
| hamagc | other than that, everything looks ok | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | the "default" looks to be 25 | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | and on connect-utb this guy set his to 75. | 16:22 |
| XirXes | what does that change actually do? | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | his is set to 95 | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | RAM swap disksize | 16:23 |
| ftvm | then I'll put cc_disksize = 100 | 16:24 |
| hamagc | whats stock? | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | eh if that doesn't work set it to 75. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: dunno. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | stock is such a relative term too | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | until the code gets finalized, there's so many configs out there. | 16:25 |
| ftvm | ok | 16:25 |
| hamagc | i don't believe that has been changed on any of the builds. | 16:27 |
| hamagc | the only change i can think of for the conf files was the change from eclair to froyo | 16:27 |
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| F22 | what does everyone use to save and restore their stuff when blowing away data.img? titanium backup? | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | yup. | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | titanium backup ftw | 16:41 |
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| arrrghhh | reef! | 16:41 |
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| ftvm | re | 16:46 |
| ftvm | cc_disksize = 100 same problem ! | 16:47 |
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| ftvm | stutter max with last zImage ! | 16:47 |
| pitflyer | Hi, I'm trying to pull the adb as F22 requested for the RHOD210 WIFI problem; is there a howto on how I do that? | 16:47 |
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| F22 | have you used adb before? | 16:48 |
| pitflyer | nope | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:48 |
| pitflyer | and I have no network connection; so have to save to SD card. I used CommandCenter to save dmesg/logcat that you looked at before | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | F22: we had to get them to use commandcenter. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | you can still use adb | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | it just requires some setup. | 16:49 |
| ftvm | oh there was even a silent in reading mp3 | 16:49 |
| F22 | i have no experience with commandcenter. i'll let you explain it. :D | 16:49 |
| pitflyer | sure, if you guys got a post or anything I'll go through the steps, but otherwise I can spell adb but thats it :) | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | F22: won't work. they need to setup adb. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | i had to google and set it up myself. | 16:50 |
| F22 | ah | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | blargh | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing you're using windows pitflyer ? | 16:50 |
| F22 | adb is part of google's android software development kit | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | there was a poorly worded post on xda | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | for win7 | 16:50 |
| pitflyer | OK. I use Windows at home, yes. I have XP and 7 on various computers. | 16:50 |
| ftvm | it must be update battery problem :( | 16:50 |
| pitflyer | I do have a Linux server, but that runs Ubuntu, no adb as far as I know | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:51 |
| pitflyer | i will google if you guys dont have any steps and see if I can figure it out | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | you.. don't know what adb stands for do you. | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9112190&postcount=3370 | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | that's the poorly worded post. | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully you can sort it out. MUCH more info than i had when i setup adb :P | 16:51 |
| pitflyer | OK. I'll give it a shot .. thanks for trying guys | 16:52 |
| F22 | good luck :) | 16:52 |
| hamagc | lol that post is better than googles instructions on setting it up and getting it running | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | well yea | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | like i said | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | a lot more info than i had :P | 16:53 |
| pitflyer | on another effort, as you posted, wifi.mac=XX is the wrong setting .. does anyone know if there is a command line setting to specify the mac at all? | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | and my retarded tush was able to set it up. | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | pitflyer: i think it was removed. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | as we incorrectly assumed all devices were handling it correctly. | 16:54 |
| pitflyer | gotcha. oh well, everything can't be easy I guess | 16:54 |
| F22 | hmmm...if he's on ubuntu he could also probably mount it as loopback and pull it off that way. | 16:54 |
| pitflyer | my ubuntu server is in a server farm somewhere far far away :) | 16:54 |
| F22 | pity | 16:55 |
| F22 | that would likely have been less work. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 16:55 |
| pitflyer | so, I'll have to do it the hard way... i will post to xda if I get it working... thanks | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i run linux on all mah machines. | 16:55 |
| pitflyer | i do have ubuntu netbook remix running on a netbook | 16:55 |
| pitflyer | maybe I'll see if that is easier somehow. | 16:55 |
| hamagc | really i thought adb on windows was easier than on ubuntu lol. over adb.exe and the lib files for it to the windows folder, install drivers, then cmd adb shell | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | wasn't that easy for me... | 16:57 |
| F22 | lol, i suppose it depends on what you're most comfortable with. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | on linux, modify one file, restart udev. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | about as easy if i knew what i was doing. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | i just found the linux directions much more straightforward and the windows directions... sequitousas usual. | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | sequitous as usual | 16:58 |
| hamagc | low end device: including a sluggish 528MHz Qualcomm MSM7225 processor | 16:58 |
| hamagc | ha! | 16:58 |
| hamagc | thats kinda mean lol | 16:58 |
| pitflyer | per chance, have a link for the linux instructions? Just in case i hit dead end on windows | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/adb-in-linux-35609/ | 16:59 |
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| hamagc | bye | 17:00 |
| hamagc | psh, doesn't even say anything | 17:01 |
| F22 | lol | 17:01 |
| F22 | that was rather sudden wasn't it... | 17:01 |
| hamagc | lol | 17:01 |
| F22 | mighty antisocial of him too. :P | 17:01 |
| XirXes | its cause hamagc insulted his cpu | 17:01 |
| hamagc | i didn't | 17:01 |
| hamagc | engadget did that lol | 17:01 |
| XirXes | lol | 17:01 |
| hamagc | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/10/motorola-citrus-launching-on-verizon-tomorrow-for-50-on-contrac/ | 17:01 |
| hamagc | fuxed up if you ask me | 17:01 |
| F22 | 7225 is actually supposed to be a little faster than what our rhod's have. | 17:02 |
| XirXes | framerate is the issue i have on my phone | 17:02 |
| pitflyer | Citrus is $199 w/o contract, but required prepaid monthly plan starting at $80 | 17:03 |
| pitflyer | bye! | 17:03 |
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| F22 | I don't see why anyone would get the Citrus... | 17:04 |
| XirXes | BLUR | 17:04 |
| XirXes | sucks | 17:04 |
| F22 | agreed | 17:04 |
| F22 | blur sucks, 7225 is slow and obsolete, 199 is way too much for for a phone with the 7225. | 17:05 |
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| XirXes | even when it wasnt obsolete it was still slow | 17:06 |
| F22 | oh wait, without contract...that's more understandable. | 17:06 |
| F22 | lol | 17:06 |
| F22 | true that Xirxes. | 17:06 |
| XirXes | cant wait till i can get my g2 and oc to 1.7 GHz lol | 17:07 |
| * XirXes will never do that | 17:07 | |
| F22 | lol | 17:08 |
| F22 | a friend of mine got the motorola devour. i feel really bad for him now. another sucky low-end motorola phone. | 17:09 |
| XirXes | it kind of offends me that companies pump out garbage devices just to make that extra buck. it dilutes the market and gives sub par user experiences | 17:10 |
| F22 | it was released with 1.6 after 2.1 had already been out for a few months, and it's still running 1.6 last I checked. | 17:11 |
| XirXes | tho im also offended that the touch pro 2 didnt come out with a 1 GHz proc and 512 mb ram | 17:11 |
| XirXes | thats terrible | 17:12 |
| F22 | ditto both of those. | 17:12 |
| Reefermattness | x2 sucks by the way get a galaxy s :) | 17:12 |
| Reefermattness | g2 | 17:13 |
| Reefermattness | not x2 :P | 17:13 |
| F22 | you have a g2 Reefer? | 17:13 |
| XirXes | your obviously stoned out of your mind | 17:13 |
| Reefermattness | desire z and desire hd both only have half the GPU of the Galaxy S | 17:13 |
| hamagc | htc scorpion :D | 17:13 |
| Reefermattness | 40 million triangles per second vs 90 million | 17:13 |
| Reefermattness | its not even close | 17:13 |
| XirXes | I dont play games on my phone | 17:14 |
| F22 | i don't fully believe pr-numbers. | 17:14 |
| Reefermattness | and the SAMOLED screen vs the washed out LED thats half an inch away from the touchscreen glass is no competition either | 17:14 |
| hamagc | the HTC Scorpion comes with Android Froyo 2.2 and a 1.5GHz processor | 17:14 |
| * hamagc drools | 17:14 | |
| F22 | i'll wait to see how the S compares once it gets Froyo. | 17:14 |
| Reefermattness | F22, ive tested the g2, it gets about 30fps in Nenamark1 and the GalaxyS gets 55, and thats only t its capped at, its 75fps with the european crack that has the fix. | 17:15 |
| XirXes | when they stop oversaturating oled is the day ill want one | 17:15 |
| Reefermattness | those arent pr numbers, those are real world test numbers for opengl 2.0 | 17:15 |
| F22 | still don't like touch wiz, nor do i like samsung's os update shenanigans... | 17:16 |
| Reefermattness | touchwiz can be uninstalled and you can put whatever launcher you want just like any other version of android | 17:16 |
| Reefermattness | and os update wtf youre an xda memeber you know you get software before its even released anyways :) | 17:16 |
| XirXes | if i wanted specs over the actual hardware I want i would have gotten an hd2 | 17:17 |
| XirXes | i cant leave the keyboard and the epic feels cheap as hell | 17:17 |
| Reefermattness | have you used the desire z? | 17:17 |
| Reefermattness | its squishy rubber | 17:17 |
| XirXes | along with the rest of the sgs. | 17:18 |
| Reefermattness | like the fuze almost | 17:18 |
| Reefermattness | not at all like the tp2 | 17:18 |
| XirXes | im a big fan of soft touch | 17:18 |
| Reefermattness | well then i guess you would like it :) | 17:18 |
| XirXes | i wished the tp2 had it | 17:18 |
| XirXes | im not saying your wrong in liking the sgs. but i personally am an htc fanboy that prefers lcd | 17:19 |
| F22 | Sounds like you're a convert to the Samsung cause Reef. :P | 17:19 |
| Reefermattness | LOL | 17:19 |
| Reefermattness | only this device so far | 17:19 |
| Reefermattness | I waited and waited for HTC, id have to wait until next year if i wanted something this nice. | 17:20 |
| Reefermattness | i still love HTC | 17:20 |
| XirXes | good | 17:20 |
| F22 | Yes, it's Samsung's treatment of their earlier devices that left me reluctant to buy Samsung. | 17:20 |
| Reefermattness | i just think they dropped the ball in this mobile processor/gpu battle thats going on right now | 17:20 |
| XirXes | sgs seems really important to them. | 17:20 |
| Reefermattness | F22, i cant blame you for that i wouldnt buy any other samsung phone | 17:21 |
| Reefermattness | but i know their hardware is amazing when they want it to be thats the only tv/monitors i will buy | 17:21 |
| hamagc | i just got a samsung | 17:21 |
| XirXes | they stopped selling their screens to make it in such large quantities | 17:21 |
| hamagc | but not a good one lol | 17:21 |
| F22 | HTC has updated all of their phones to 2.X aside from the Dream/G1 which is over 2 years old at this point, and that got 1.6 at least. Samsung still has phones stuck with 1.5, and the sad this is that they were released -after- 2.1 was out. | 17:22 |
| Reefermattness | got to run guys, i think i figured out how to fix the blazn build finally, so keep your eyes peeled :) | 17:22 |
| Reefermattness | f22 yeah but the galaxy s they are more on top of things | 17:22 |
| Reefermattness | froyo will be out this month | 17:23 |
| hamagc | ya i'm really depressed this stupid moment can't get 2.2 | 17:23 |
| hamagc | not even a port or anything | 17:23 |
| F22 | i bet the G2 will get 2.3 several months before the S. :P | 17:23 |
| Reefermattness | we just got a final i9000 and vibrant leaks from samsung | 17:23 |
| XirXes | the reason they didnt update the g1 is cause they refuse to update the bootloader | 17:23 |
| hamagc | lol i bet we get 2.3 before the g2 :) | 17:23 |
| F22 | rumor is 2.3 will be out tomorrow. | 17:23 |
| Reefermattness | lol hamagc youre probably right | 17:24 |
| hamagc | lol | 17:24 |
| Reefermattness | ttyl guys | 17:24 |
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| hamagc | later reef | 17:24 |
| F22 | laterz | 17:24 |
| hamagc | if 2.3 comes out tomorrow, stinebd will have it working for us next week | 17:24 |
| hamagc | i'm confident lol | 17:24 |
| XirXes | i believe | 17:24 |
| hamagc | however my samsung might get 2.2 this year | 17:24 |
| hamagc | maybe next | 17:24 |
| F22 | lol | 17:24 |
| F22 | which samsung do you have hamagic? | 17:24 |
| hamagc | moment | 17:25 |
| hamagc | just got it like 2 weeks ago | 17:25 |
| hamagc | bday present | 17:25 |
| XirXes | sgs is rooted right? | 17:25 |
| hamagc | yes | 17:25 |
| hamagc | i think everything out right now is rooted | 17:25 |
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| XirXes | yesterday was a good day for rooting | 17:25 |
| F22 | ahhh...the fastest android phone in Oct/Nov 2009. :P | 17:25 |
| hamagc | lol | 17:25 |
| hamagc | don't even get me going on the processor | 17:26 |
| hamagc | i'm 90% sure this is just an overclocked 528 | 17:26 |
| XirXes | classy | 17:26 |
| F22 | stock android too...that's why it got an upgrade to 2.1 at the same time as the hero (which had sense). | 17:26 |
| F22 | samsung is ssssslllllllooooowwwwww at updating its touch wiz phones | 17:27 |
| hamagc | i love the stock android. but who releases a phone with a maxed out oc on the processor? | 17:27 |
| hamagc | besides samsung lol | 17:27 |
| F22 | well the hero seemed underpowered at the time | 17:27 |
| F22 | they may have been trying to avoid that issue. | 17:27 |
| F22 | stock+overclock seemed to do the trick, the moment never got panned for being too slow. | 17:29 |
| hamagc | maybe. i was really hoping it was a good processor that had head room, but apparently not. they tried to overclock it and found that there was no where to go above 800 | 17:29 |
| F22 | the behold 2 got bashed badly | 17:29 |
| F22 | pity that there was no head room for overclocking. | 17:29 |
| hamagc | indeed | 17:29 |
| F22 | if the vibrant or the epic were stock i'd be more tempted... | 17:31 |
| F22 | i wouldn't touch the captivate and whatever verizon's calling its version of the S with a 10 foot pole. | 17:32 |
| hamagc | no? | 17:32 |
| F22 | well not unless there were some good alternative rom's out. | 17:32 |
| hamagc | minus touch wiz | 17:33 |
| F22 | and the vendor bloat, and other restrictions. | 17:33 |
| F22 | verizon stripped out google and replaced it with bing. | 17:33 |
| F22 | you can't even pick google now apparently | 17:34 |
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| hamagc | lol i thought that was funny | 17:34 |
| F22 | at&t makes side-loading a pain on the captivate | 17:35 |
| F22 | not sure i understand why verizon did that to their Galaxy S which is theoretically supposed to be a high end phone. | 17:36 |
| hamagc | money | 17:37 |
| F22 | their deal with microsoft was supposed to only apply to their lower end phones. | 17:37 |
| hamagc | it all ends with money | 17:37 |
| F22 | no doubt | 17:37 |
| F22 | the phones with the "Droid" moniker are excepted from that agreement apparently. | 17:37 |
| F22 | Droid phones are supposed to be Verizon's high end premium android brand. | 17:37 |
| hamagc | lol can't touch the droids, those are their cash cows currently | 17:38 |
| F22 | but in terms of capability, Samsung's S series is certainly on the same level as the "Droids". | 17:39 |
| F22 | and certainly ahead of one of the original Droids, the Eris, which was just a rebadged Hero. | 17:39 |
| F22 | I agree though. I think Microsoft came back and waved more money at Verizon, and Verizon took the offer. | 17:40 |
| F22 | It is pretty funny though that Microsoft is bribing Verizon to put Bing on Verizon phones. :P | 17:41 |
| F22 | er Android phones. | 17:41 |
| hamagc | lol bing on and android. jsut sounds funny | 17:41 |
| F22 | i am a little annoyed that htc's lexicon will also get the same treatment. | 17:42 |
| F22 | they should have called that the droid incredible pro instead. | 17:42 |
| F22 | but apparently it's going to get downgraded to Bing for a big fat check from MS, so no droid title for Verizon's Desire Z. | 17:44 |
| hamagc | otaking71: Everyone hired by Research in Motion gets a RIM job. | 18:45 |
| hamagc | there is my quote for the day | 18:45 |
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| ftvm | hamagc> i can a question ??? | 18:52 |
| hamagc | yez? | 18:52 |
| ftvm | ok thanx | 18:52 |
| ftvm | android ... use a firewall ??? in incoming network ??? | 18:53 |
| hamagc | firewall for data? or wifi? | 18:53 |
| ftvm | i try an ftp server ... not connect on my device | 18:53 |
| ftvm | wifi | 18:53 |
| hamagc | no not that i know of | 18:53 |
| hamagc | you can add a firewall it looks like but there is not one natively on android | 18:53 |
| ftvm | no no ... not interest lol | 18:54 |
| ftvm | i'm not possible of execute a ping !!! | 18:54 |
| hamagc | lol, no there is no firewall that needs to be configured, that i know of. | 18:54 |
| ftvm | i have address of my device ... 192.168.1.5 | 18:54 |
| ftvm | he is connected | 18:54 |
| ftvm | impossible acces from pc by ping ... | 18:54 |
| hamagc | 192.168.1.5 is a local address | 18:55 |
| ftvm | yes | 18:55 |
| ftvm | local address of device | 18:55 |
| hamagc | your connected via wifi | 18:55 |
| ftvm | yes | 18:55 |
| ftvm | i try this | 18:55 |
| hamagc | you need to set up in the router to forward that address to the device | 18:55 |
| hamagc | otherwise it's just talking to the router and not the device | 18:55 |
| hamagc | you can ping 192.168.1.5 from inside your network but not from outside your network | 18:56 |
| ftvm | a no ... router only on wan | 18:56 |
| ftvm | not a lan or wlan | 18:56 |
| ftvm | i can't ping ... 192.168.1.5 | 18:57 |
| ftvm | i can ping other adress of my network without my device andrroid !!! | 18:57 |
| hamagc | you can't ping from within your network? | 18:57 |
| hamagc | on your device? | 18:57 |
| hamagc | hmm | 18:57 |
| ftvm | my device only | 18:57 |
| hamagc | that i don't know | 18:58 |
| ftvm | yes | 18:58 |
| hamagc | the most i have done in this area is setup remote connections. once i put in a port forwarding command in the router, i didn't have any issues | 18:58 |
| ftvm | i can't ping ... on my device ... | 18:59 |
| hamagc | hmm argh would prob be the best to answer that question | 18:59 |
| ftvm | yes thanx ... but forwarding ... is only for remote acces (WAN) | 19:00 |
| ftvm | yes ... i was searching ... | 19:00 |
| ftvm | thank you ... :) | 19:00 |
| hamagc | np, sorry i couldn't help more | 19:01 |
| ftvm | no problem ... | 19:01 |
| ftvm | ok it's work !!! | 19:12 |
| hamagc | good deal. i'm off. later guys | 19:13 |
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| ftvm | the first time it did not work so I closed and re-open wifi again and there I was able to ping | 19:15 |
| ftvm | thanx all !!! | 19:15 |
| ftvm | good night also | 19:15 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Getting my HD2 for $150 tomorrow. Thanks for everything guys! I'll still be around, but probably not as much. | 19:52 |
| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Andrei A.! | 20:01 |
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| F22 | mwuhahahahah! success! :D | 23:04 |
| F22 | darn, just missed arrrghhh... | 23:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | What? | 23:07 |
| F22 | i expanded android's symbol palette from 9 to 15 keys | 23:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hooray! | 23:08 |
| F22 | it will require both a new root and a new system.ext2, since i had to twiddle files in both. | 23:09 |
| F22 | most keyboards don't have the symbol key mapped, and that's done in rootfs | 23:09 |
| F22 | the palette expansion on the other hand is in system | 23:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Good for the people who need it. :) | 23:10 |
| F22 | what phone do you have? | 23:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | HTC Fuze. | 23:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Never had any issues with the keyboard. | 23:12 |
| F22 | ahh...at&t's version of the raph. | 23:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. | 23:12 |
| F22 | it's not that there are issues, it's that for some of us the existing selection of keys is a bit limiting... | 23:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | "Some of us" is what I mean by those who need it. :) | 23:13 |
| F22 | i take it you're not in that group. :P | 23:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nope. What symbols btw? | 23:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | I guess a < and > symbol would be nice for terminal commands. | 23:15 |
| F22 | those are two of the ones i added. | 23:15 |
| F22 | they weren't in the original. | 23:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | What else? | 23:16 |
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| F22 | ... ¥ · ® © ± [ ] { } <> ~ \ | | 23:19 |
| F22 | hmm... forgot the ` | 23:19 |
| F22 | need to add that in too. | 23:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok. ~, \, and | look the most interesting. | 23:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | Maybe { and } are good if you're programming on your phone. :P | 23:20 |
| F22 | yepyep, that's why i modified the palette. i didn't really care about the yen, copyright, or reserved symbols. | 23:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm sure SOMEONE out there does though, lol. | 23:22 |
| F22 | yup, so i'm leaving them in. | 23:22 |
| * JesusFreak316 is excited to get his HD2 tomorrow! | 23:22 | |
| F22 | i recall you mentioning it earlier. | 23:23 |
| F22 | sadly, it probably means we'll be seeing less of you. | 23:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, and F22, every time I see your name it reminds me of this old F22 flight simulator game I used to have. Good times. | 23:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Aww, thanks. | 23:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'll still be around. | 23:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | That game used EVERY key on the keyboard, lol. | 23:24 |
| F22 | rofl | 23:24 |
| F22 | the name fits then | 23:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm thinking of getting one of these for my HD2. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.45604 | 23:24 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Your name does reference the aircraft right? | 23:24 |
| F22 | yup | 23:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why? I know they're awesome but any particular reason? | 23:25 |
| F22 | i wanted to download a file on xda dev at the time, needed a name, wanted something short and easy to type, but also cool. i was staring at a model of a f22 at the time, which is a pretty snazzy piece of technology, so that's what i chose. | 23:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol good reason. | 23:27 |
| F22 | top shelf tech, insanely expensive, only 187 of them in existence, and it doesn't look we're going to make any more. | 23:28 |
| F22 | yup, i thought so at the time. :D | 23:29 |
| F22 | i probably should add in symbols for the euro and the british pound while i'm at it. they've already been added to the keymap, but not everyone knows they're there and remembering the correct key combo is a pain if you rarely use them. | 23:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sure. lol | 23:35 |
| F22 | where on the fuze is the symbol key? | 23:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | FN-space | 23:37 |
| F22 | makes sense, it's also FN-space on the tilt2 | 23:38 |
| F22 | is that key currently mapped to something else? | 23:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | It appears to be mapped to TAB currently | 23:39 |
| F22 | yup | 23:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Rather pointless. | 23:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | imo | 23:40 |
| F22 | makes sense, i'm mapping tab on the non-at&t rhodiums to tab. the 100, 210 & 400 all have sym as fn-, verizon on the other hand has dedicated a dedicated key just for symbols. | 23:41 |
| F22 | s/to tab/to fn-<space>/ | 23:42 |
| F22 | i don't personally use tab at all, although arrrghhh asked for it. | 23:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | I don't see what it's needed for on a phone. | 23:43 |
| F22 | need to figure out what i'm going to do with <tab> vs. sym on the at&t keyboards. my gut feeling is to make the action match the key, and thus move tab so SYM can have that key. | 23:44 |
| F22 | since it has SYM printed on it. | 23:44 |
| F22 | of course, then the question becomes, where do i put <tab>? | 23:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's your decision. | 23:46 |
| F22 | i don't have a tilt2 or a fuze...so i don't have a personal stake in it. i figured as long as i'm adding it for the 210, i might as add it to the others for which i have the keymap sources too. | 23:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | I just really don't know either. | 23:47 |
| F22 | hmm...i don't think fn-, is currently in use, that's the "envelope". | 23:48 |
| F22 | the raph has a comma key i assume? | 23:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Fuze does at least. | 23:50 |
| F22 | er fuze i mean | 23:50 |
| F22 | it has an entry for it in the keymap, but some of the keymaps have keys in them that don't exist. | 23:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Works fine for me. | 23:51 |
| F22 | cool | 23:51 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | lol | 23:55 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | f22 you should have named yourself Berkut | 23:56 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-47 easily the coolest plane ever | 23:57 |
| F22 | lol, RogueAgent, are you Russian? | 23:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Pfft, I shot down so many of those in my F22 flight simulator. (True story!) | 23:57 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Nope American | 23:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Foreward sweeping wings are always cool though. | 23:58 |
| F22 | heh, only 1 SU47 ever made according to its wiki, a prototype. well it's certainly unique. | 23:59 |
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