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| emwe | stinebd: shouldn this: ro.com.android.dataroaming=true be set to false by default in build.prop? | 10:21 |
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| arrrghhh | i think i'm just going to start refusing to respond to any posts that even mention "angry birds"... | 11:14 |
| stinebd | emwe: why? do euro carriers charge for roaming? | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | that would be sweet sweet irony if so. | 11:20 |
| emwe | stinebd: if we are talking about cross-country-roaming, then definitively. and that is not cheap at all. | 11:20 |
| stinebd | well it's generally common sense that you turn off roaming if you're going international | 11:21 |
| stinebd | or switch out your sim with a prepaid one, even | 11:21 |
| emwe | stinebd: well, i was on holidays on an island near poland. and it sometimes attracted a polish network and immedeately i got payment-info sms from my provider and the figures in there where quite.. ehm.. frightening. | 11:22 |
| emwe | strangely though, wince had roaming enabled by default too. | 11:22 |
| emwe | couldn't even find a place where to disable that in wince | 11:23 |
| emwe | i just though to mention the setting. | 11:23 |
| stinebd | that's actually the default in aosp | 11:23 |
| emwe | so roaming is cheap for you in us? | 11:24 |
| stinebd | roaming is free | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | free | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | completely | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | basically all carriers eliminiated roaming... 5 years ago? | 11:24 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know any "major" carrier that still charges for domestic roaming. | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | mind you if you go outside of the USA, int'l charges are still outrageous :P | 11:25 |
| emwe | ah wait, then we are talking about sth different i guess | 11:25 |
| emwe | are you talking about carrier-roaming inside us? | 11:26 |
| emwe | so sprint user using vzw network? | 11:26 |
| stinebd | roaming is when your carrier has a partnership with another carrier and they let you use their towers | 11:26 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 11:26 |
| emwe | that kind of thing is done behind your back here. it's not something the user has to care about. either your carrier has contracts with others or not. | 11:27 |
| stinebd | same here | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 11:27 |
| emwe | but i thought that setting was meant for cross-country-roaming. | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think there is a way to say stay on my home network only | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | in winmo | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | under connection settings | 11:27 |
| emwe | and as i read, you got crazy prices for that as well, that's why i thought mentioning that it should be disabled to safe some trouble perhaps. just a thought. | 11:28 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: hm. and i thought there was a distinction in behaviour between "choose any national-carrier" and "roam or don't roam with international carriers". might as well be that this is "one" thing. | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | not to my knowledge. | 11:29 |
| emwe | ah | 11:29 |
| arrrghhh | it's either 'home only' | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | which will keep you on your network regardless | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | or 'home & away' or some such setting. | 11:30 |
| emwe | i see. | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | which will allow you to roam on other networks | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | which is free on Sprint. | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | and basically everyone else :P | 11:30 |
| emwe | but going cross-country-towers costs i understand | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | int'l is a whole nother can of worms, in which case i don't think it'll work without the proper sim anyways. | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have GSM... but i know that sprint wants you to buy their stupid SIM for int'l calling. | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | and pay thru the nose for calling when outside of the country. | 11:31 |
| stinebd | because they partner with gsm carriers worldwide | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | ja | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, it works the same for at&t i assume? | 11:31 |
| stinebd | gsm carriers in america partner with gsm carriers on the same frequencies worldwide, so you don't need a new sim | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | the phone won't work outside the US without the proper SIM? | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | so you'd just get charged an arm&leg without realizing it...? | 11:32 |
| stinebd | that's why it's pretty much common sense to not use them for international roaming | 11:32 |
| stinebd | or add an unlimited roaming plan for the period of time you'll be international | 11:33 |
| stinebd | something like 20 bucks on att | 11:33 |
| stinebd | mind you, i don't know if att enables international roaming on their plans without an opt in | 11:33 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | so stinebd, I downloaded your system you posted last night, but haven't had a chance to use/test it yet. PM me if you want, but what's the change and what tests u need done? | 11:35 |
| stinebd | i misspoke, you don't add an *unlimited* roaming plan, you just add one | 11:35 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: it uses heroc's ril | 11:35 |
| stinebd | wow 2 cents per kb | 11:36 |
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| NeoMatrixJR_tmp | effing cable @ home... | 11:39 |
| emwe | ouch. | 11:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR_tmp | always disconnects after I post a question on the channel | 11:39 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stupid mediacom cable | 11:40 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: ok, checked chanlogs. What benefit do we get from heroc's ril (s/heroc/hero/ ???) | 11:41 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: none | 11:42 |
| stinebd | heroc = hero cdma | 11:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ...oooooo kay. | 11:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ah | 11:42 |
| stinebd | did you notice the NOT-FOR-RELEASE in the url? | 11:42 |
| stinebd | those images are for testing | 11:42 |
| stinebd | there's no guarantee that what i add is useful | 11:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah. And I figured I'd do some testing if you needed. | 11:42 |
| stinebd | do you have cdma? | 11:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | just didn't know what you needed tested | 11:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah | 11:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | spring | 11:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | s/spring/sprint/ | 11:43 |
| stinebd | good | 11:43 |
| stinebd | you might be useful to me later | 11:43 |
| NeoMatrixJR | RHOD400 | 11:43 |
| stinebd | can you send it to me? | 11:43 |
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| stinebd | oh | 11:44 |
| stinebd | do you have adb access? | 11:44 |
| stinebd | particularly the shell | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | he's got the same setup/phone/carrier i do stinebd :P | 11:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I should, but I haven't checked since last update. Hang on, I'll check. | 11:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hmmm... well, adb *was* working for me.... | 11:45 |
| stinebd | uh oh | 11:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yep it works | 11:45 |
| stinebd | k | 11:45 |
| stinebd | was about to send a nastygram to acl | 11:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | just had to re-start adb | 11:45 |
| arrrghhh | nastygram for Mongo? | 11:46 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: if you boot into that system i would be interested in an adb shell getprop | 11:46 |
| stinebd | if not, don't worry about it | 11:47 |
| stinebd | chances are it would be unenlightening anyway | 11:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'll need a few to get it on my test card and boot it up | 11:49 |
| stinebd | no rush | 11:49 |
| NeoMatrixJR | do you care what kernel this runs with? Right now my test card has one from WisTilt2 | 11:53 |
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| arrrghhh | don't think so, that's how i gave him logs yesterday. | 11:54 |
| xUmaRix | stinebd: i test ur not release package on my blac100 | 11:54 |
| xUmaRix | i can make call but couldnt hear any voice | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | xUmaRix, are you GSM? | 11:54 |
| xUmaRix | yeah i guess black100 is gsm | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | uhm. | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | you don't know? | 11:55 |
| xUmaRix | how would i know | 11:55 |
| xUmaRix | from init it detected as gsm | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | where are you located? | 11:56 |
| xUmaRix | malaysia | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | uhm.... i'm going to assume GSM. | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | not sure tho. | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | do you get data cxn? | 11:56 |
| xUmaRix | gsm and wcdma available here | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | wcdma? | 11:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: I believe it's still a GSM technology | 11:57 |
| xUmaRix | wcdma = umts gsm = edge | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | still GSM dude. | 11:57 |
| NeoMatrixJR | stupid naming convention | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | UMTS indeed. thank you wikipedia :P | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | seriously lol | 11:57 |
| xUmaRix | yeah gsm in cheapskate malaysia | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | eh you can blame the japanese for wcdma. | 11:57 |
| xUmaRix | the new ril wrapper is for cdma ? | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | no it's for both | 11:58 |
| xUmaRix | ic upong first boot up i cabbot get any sgnal | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | cdma users are just having more issues as stinebd hasn't figured out a way to tell the system we're using CDMA. so it expects a SIM card | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | does it say anything about inserting a SIM? | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | emergency calls only on the lock screen? | 11:59 |
| xUmaRix | however after some reboot and setting it can pick up signal with new ril wrapper | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | some reboot...? like one reboot or multiples? | 11:59 |
| xUmaRix | however when i make call it go through but no sound | 11:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh/stinebd: do I need a SIM to test the CDMA stuffs the way you want? I've got one, but I left it @ home. I could grab over lunch if needed. | 11:59 |
| xUmaRix | it just like a reboot after settings | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a SIM | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | but it may help NeoMatrixJR :P | 12:00 |
| xUmaRix | right now i edit init.rc to use htcgeneric-ril | 12:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | so, you're bypasing the ril wrapper anyways and negating the point of the test | 12:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ? | 12:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | might just want to go back to standard available system files and not use the NOT-FOR-RELEASE version | 12:01 |
| xUmaRix | because i can hear any voice during calls with libhtc_ril_wrapper.so | 12:01 |
| xUmaRix | but it is easy to change just a line in init.rc | 12:02 |
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| xUmaRix | arrrghhh: u on raph cdma ? | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | RHOD | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | and yes the no voice thing seems normal with this new ril. | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | or ril-wrapper if you will. | 12:04 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: I can send the whole file if you want, but this seems to be an interesting line: [gsm.version.ril-impl]: [HTC Vogue Community RIL 0.8 [mdrobnak-1]] | 12:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I was able to make and recieve a call with inbound and outbound voice working fine | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | really!?! | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | you replaced both the rootfs @ system.ext2 files? | 12:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ah, no...I just got the system. | 12:15 |
| NeoMatrixJR | do I need another rootfs.. | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | he didn't give it to ya? | 12:15 |
| NeoMatrixJR | he posted 2 links didn't he | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 12:15 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I just got the second. | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | ah. | 12:15 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I'll go back and get the first. | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha sounds good. | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | so lets say you guys had 14gb of crap to send to someone | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | how would you do it? | 12:16 |
| stinebd | scp | 12:17 |
| stinebd | well | 12:17 |
| stinebd | maybe rsync | 12:17 |
| stinebd | it can resume | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i wish this d!ck had a server for me to send this stuff to... | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | stupid cisco. | 12:17 |
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| arrrghhh | he wants me to burn it to DVD and snail mail it to him. | 12:18 |
| hamagc | boom! | 12:18 |
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| hamagc | stupid computer is broken this morning so i might not be here long, but whats going on? | 12:18 |
| MacPS | Hi | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | nada | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | testing the wrapper from stinebd some mo | 12:18 |
| hamagc | nada? any luck? | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | wanting to smash TAC engineers in the skull. | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | no, i had the same experience as you. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | MacPS, howdy | 12:19 |
| hamagc | damn | 12:19 |
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| hamagc | so i read this is the heroc ril? | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i believe so. | 12:20 |
| hamagc | hmm | 12:20 |
| MacPS | Anybody an idea why I can't write in the terminal emulator on my HTC DiamondTouch2 ? | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | MacPS, no virtual kbd | 12:20 |
| hamagc | can't write in it? | 12:20 |
| hamagc | have you updated it? | 12:20 |
| hamagc | i believe the newer version comes with the softkb built in. | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it works in that app. does it? i always use ConnectBot | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | of course, i have a real kbd too :P | 12:21 |
| hamagc | lol | 12:21 |
| MacPS | so what could I try ? | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | what we both recommneded. | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | update terminal emulator | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | or use connectbot | 12:21 |
| MacPS | connectbot ok | 12:21 |
| MacPS | I'll check it | 12:21 |
| MacPS | Thanks | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea just make sure you do a local cxn | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | it's used for ssh as well. | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | or it's default is ssh i should say. | 12:22 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well, it's still coming up, but yeah, I see a no SIM icon in the notification bar | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 12:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | and network not available | 12:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I wonder if it detects the GSM hardware and defaults to that, but would there be a way to tell it to use the CDMA hardware? | 12:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | pulling another getprop.... | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea that's the problem methinks. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | the weird thing is, i can still make/receive calls. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | even tho it says i should only be able to make emergency calls :P | 12:28 |
| hamagc | calls work | 12:28 |
| NeoMatrixJR | huh. I couldn't just said network unavailable | 12:28 |
| hamagc | if you look at the apn, there isn't one and you can't make one | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc, yup same... | 12:28 |
| hamagc | it's weird because it's the same issue i had when running the ril from the htc evo. only i didn't have a wrapper, i just stole the htcril from their build and threw it into ours lol | 12:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | [gsm.version.ril-impl]: [HTC-RIL 2.0.0056H (Feb 26 2010,10:19:11)] | 12:30 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd, you need whole getprop? | 12:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | [rild.libpath]: [/lib/froyo/libhtcgeneric-ril.so] | 12:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well, I gotta go get lunch and grab my SIM. back later. | 12:33 |
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| arrrghhh | is there a way to modify startup.txt cmdline options on the fly? | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | it seems like there should be a way. | 13:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | You mean from within android? | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 13:51 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: thanks | 13:52 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: to accomplish what? | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like to change that snd.force command on the fly. | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | without rebooting | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | because i'm lazy | 13:53 |
| stinebd | snd.force? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | snd.force_headset=X | 13:53 |
| stinebd | ah geez | 13:53 |
| stinebd | finish your words | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:54 |
| CazH | arrrghhh: real lazy it seems :P | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think it would matter which command line option i'm changing | 13:54 |
| stinebd | anyway | 13:54 |
| stinebd | you might be able to change it using the sysfs module parameter interface | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | CazH, well i'm going to be flipping a lot between 0,1&2... it takes a while & battery to reboot. | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yes? | 13:54 |
| stinebd | it would definitely matter | 13:54 |
| stinebd | some things can't be changed, some things aren't used by the kernel, etc. | 13:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | stinbd: Is that you going as battousai in #rockbox? | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:55 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: yes | 13:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Cool beans. Didn't know you used it. | 13:55 |
| CazH | arrrghhh: refered to you not even bothering to type out the command when stine asks you for it :P | 13:55 |
| stinebd | i have a sansa fuze v2 that i got from woot for like 25 bucks. with rockbox on it, it's the best mp3 player on the market at that price point | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. | 13:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meh, getting sdcard mount issues again. Is there anything else besides for formatting that would fix it? I just formatted with hptool last week. | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't know the fuze could run rockbox, my gf has that mp3 player... | 13:57 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: i heard angry birds fixes that | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | CazH, i didn't know the full command off the top of my head, i had to go look it up :P | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, soooooo is this one of the things that can be changed? | 13:58 |
| CazH | arrrghhh: excusses excusses :P | 13:58 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: refresh me on your device again? | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | stinebd: Awesome; I have a Gigabeat F20 and a Gigabeat S60. I spent many hours playing through all the old game boy color games. | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Fuze. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha i'm full of 'em. | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | You have one too right? | 13:58 |
| stinebd | you're having sd issues on a fuze? | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, weird isn't it? | 13:58 |
| stinebd | yeah i have one | 13:58 |
| stinebd | i was trying to collect as many electronic devices with the same name as possible | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hahahaha | 13:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | I was trying to adb push my compiled rockbox build earlier today and I found out the sd wasn't working. It was working earlier today though. :/ | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | format the card :P | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | weird that cards keep flakin like this... | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i've reformatted my card in months. | 14:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | FINE. It just takes FOREVER to back up all 12 gigs of stuff, format, then transfer it all back. | 14:00 |
| stinebd | sdhc? | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | aw.... poor baby. | 14:00 |
| stinebd | which class? | 14:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 14:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | 6 | 14:00 |
| stinebd | uh oh | 14:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | yeah yeah I know. | 14:00 |
| stinebd | that's a fun variable | 14:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | It used to work fine. | 14:00 |
| stinebd | i had 3 different class 6 cards of various capacities that wouldn't even show up in winmo | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 14:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | All's well in winmo. Android too usually. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | i have a class 4 i think... 8gb. | 14:01 |
| stinebd | raphs are notoriously wonky with fast sdhc's | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | do you have a slower SD? | 14:01 |
| stinebd | i have a 2gb non-hc | 14:02 |
| CazH | I had this old pda, winmo wouldn't accept any sdhc card... Got linux running, and guess what sdhc cards work, crappy drivers for winmo anyway :P | 14:02 |
| stinebd | yeah, the sdhc cards worked fine in linux | 14:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is there any console command to remount it? I tried the typical mount -o one but no luck. | 14:02 |
| CazH | Funny how that is | 14:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | CazH: It works in Winmo for me but not in linux/Android. | 14:03 |
| CazH | JesusFreak316: thats strange :S | 14:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | Gonna try dropping my OC. | 14:03 |
| stinebd | lol sdhc6 and overclocking | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah well i guess i gotta reboot anyways to do the vm trick. damnit. | 14:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | Anyhoo, anyone here with a vga device want to test my rockbox apk? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8755851#post8755851 | 14:05 |
| hamagc | wow! | 14:05 |
| stinebd | use fixed right? | 14:05 |
| hamagc | gizmodo tells me that droid 2 and droid x have been oc'd to 2ghz | 14:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | The font size will still be tiny but can you see if when you go under files it will fit the screen correctly? | 14:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | use fixed? | 14:06 |
| stinebd | got 2 apks on there | 14:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, yeah. | 14:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | First one I compiled for landscape. Silly me. | 14:06 |
| hamagc | i guess they got 2ghz stable, 3ghz somewhat stable | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | 3ghz?!? | 14:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | 3ghz? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | out of a 1ghz proc... | 14:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | HOLY CRAP!!!1! | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | how the... | 14:08 |
| hamagc | thats what i'm saying | 14:08 |
| stinebd | liquid cooling | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess if you don't mind having a 10 minute battery. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | LOL liquid nitrogen being fed straight to the proc. | 14:08 |
| stinebd | no | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | you guys seen that video? | 14:08 |
| stinebd | dunking it in the toilet | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | dude oc'd an intel 3ghz chip to like 6ghz | 14:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't droid x just a qsd8650? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | it's ti | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | methinks | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | omap | 14:09 |
| stinebd | i saw one video of an athlon thunderbird running at full load without a fan | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 14:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know the droid 2 is but I didn't think the droid x was. | 14:09 |
| stinebd | mind you, those things ran at like 65C at minimum load with good cooling | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 14:09 |
| hamagc | http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/22/droid-x-and-2-clocked-at-2-0ghz-both-laugh-at-g2/ | 14:09 |
| hamagc | jeseus | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | 1Ghz TI OMAP3630-1000 | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | Droid X | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | I guess that TI proc whips the qualcomm stuff... | 14:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, that makes the device much more interesting to me. Still not planning on ever getting it 'cause of efuze. | 14:10 |
| hamagc | lol thats just wrong. 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, thats up to 300% oc'd lol | 14:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Stinebd: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHYoguHFrGs ? | 14:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | This is even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDS0yCXhjSE | 14:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs6m_BgQc4c&feature=related Ok, done spamming. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol i can't watch 'em anyways bastage :P | 14:13 |
| Aks | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdbsnEYr0wA&feature=related | 14:14 |
| Aks | 5 GHz | 14:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | Good ol' p4 | 14:15 |
| Aks | 6.93 GHz - AMD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onYQxHx0tBQ&feature=related | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | Aks, enough. | 14:18 |
| Aks | if droid is oced to 6 they would have to put it in a LQ container :)) | 14:19 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: E/AndroidRuntime( 1638): java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Library rockbox not found | 14:20 |
| arrrghhh | fail | 14:20 |
| stinebd | also this during installation: | 14:21 |
| stinebd | D/Rockbox ( 1638): java.io.FileNotFoundException: /data/data/org.rockbox/lib/libmisc.so (No such file or directory) | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | wow... this dude on the ubuntu forums is trying to copy files from a 10.04 install to a DOS box... | 14:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Really? It starts for me; just is small. Or at least the first one was. | 14:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Do the ones at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort work for you? | 14:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | Not VGA but should at least boot. | 14:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | YAY! Sdcard is back. | 14:25 |
| stinebd | huh | 14:26 |
| stinebd | unbundling it made it work | 14:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | unbundling? | 14:26 |
| stinebd | i had it in my system image | 14:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, why? | 14:27 |
| stinebd | took it out, installed via adb | 14:27 |
| stinebd | because that was convenient at the time :P | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | haha | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | When you say system image do you mean system.ext2 or data.img? | 14:27 |
| stinebd | when i say system image i don't mean data image | 14:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just making sure. :) | 14:28 |
| stinebd | this is really hard to use | 14:28 |
| stinebd | some idiot got rid of the action button | 14:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, it loooks like it's dismounting after a little while in android. Angry birds started at first but now it can't access the sd. | 14:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | Buttons aren't supported anyways. | 14:29 |
| stinebd | how do you go back? | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Press on the left side of the screen. | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | left center | 14:30 |
| stinebd | ohh i see | 14:30 |
| stinebd | but the dpad does actually work | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Really? Maybe they committed that recently. | 14:31 |
| stinebd | hmm it plays music too | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, no plugins atm though. | 14:31 |
| stinebd | and holds a wakelock even! | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Most of those can be replicated through android anyways. | 14:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did I do good stinebd? :P | 14:32 |
| stinebd | not rockblox :P | 14:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Hey stinebd, I'm back and testing w/ my SIM in | 14:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | There's no satisfactory tertris on android? | 14:32 |
| stinebd | and rockboy | 14:33 |
| stinebd | and doom | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | I have a game boy emulator. There's a doom emulator. | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | I got a gb/gbc/nes/snes/genesis/gamegear emu for $4. :) Droidemu. | 14:34 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I gots empty bars with an "R" over them. Lock screen has (No Service)|Sprint | 14:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | no data connection | 14:35 |
| stinebd | R? | 14:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | can't call in | 14:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | now "R" is gone | 14:36 |
| stinebd | that'd be roaming | 14:36 |
| stinebd | i would imagine | 14:36 |
| stinebd | never seen it before | 14:36 |
| NeoMatrixJR | outbound call worked, voice in, not voice out | 14:37 |
| NeoMatrixJR | now an inbound call worked, still no mic | 14:38 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I hope that didn't use my GSM. I don't want to pay or explain GSM use in-country | 14:39 |
| stinebd | it almost certainly is using gsm... | 14:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | :'( | 14:39 |
| stinebd | you're not allowed to use gsm in america? | 14:40 |
| NeoMatrixJR | not with the sprint SIM. | 14:40 |
| NeoMatrixJR | it's only for international use. In fact I thought the radio (as far as WinMo is concerned anyways) has US GSM locked out. | 14:41 |
| stinebd | well if they ask, just explain to them that you're an international spy sent by vodafone | 14:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | added an apn, but can't get data | 14:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep, looks like my rockbox apk works fine. :) | 14:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | logs pm's | 14:45 |
| stinebd | rar?! | 14:45 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sent dmesg, getprop, and logcat | 14:46 |
| NeoMatrixJR | u gonna get picky? | 14:46 |
| stinebd | i am actually | 14:46 |
| stinebd | logcat -b radio :P | 14:46 |
| NeoMatrixJR | is that not in regular logcat? | 14:47 |
| stinebd | no | 14:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | damnit...just powered down too... | 14:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | give a min to boot | 14:47 |
| NeoMatrixJR | anything else once it's back up? | 14:47 |
| stinebd | mother's maiden name and social security number | 14:48 |
| stinebd | i have a feeling radio logcat might not help much | 14:48 |
| NeoMatrixJR | any chance if you get this we'll be seeing EV and 1x instead of 3G/E/G | 14:49 |
| stinebd | i'd say the best chance of that would be this thing coming out: http://www.intomobile.com/2010/08/07/htc-android-world-phone-for-verizon-gets-spotted/ | 14:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | the Droid Pro? | 14:50 |
| stinebd | there are no htc dual mode phones that run android, to the best of my knowledge | 14:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I was sniffing around for something similar earlier and came across that | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Where do we submit logcats again? I ran a logcat during and after I installed rockbox and it showed some interesting stuff about dismounting my sdcard. | 14:52 |
| stinebd | pastebin | 14:52 |
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| JesusFreak316 | .com or .org? | 14:53 |
| stinebd | any pastebin | 14:54 |
| hamagc | NeoMatrixJR: we won't be seeing EV and 1X on xdandroid. those icons are built into the system (our system is a gsm system thats been modified for our use i believe). | 14:54 |
| stinebd | modified?! | 14:54 |
| stinebd | our system is built from the ground up for xdandroid devices | 14:54 |
| hamagc | you know, lowered, exhaust, one of those glue on scoops for the hood | 14:55 |
| stinebd | stop spreading your fud | 14:55 |
| hamagc | lol | 14:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Could I just upload it to my dropbox public folder and link to it? | 14:55 |
| stinebd | we've got the lamborghini, not the honda accord | 14:55 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: if i have to wait for a download button, no. | 14:56 |
| hamagc | damn, i guess i should take back those sinner hubcaps then | 14:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nope. | 14:56 |
| hamagc | spinner* | 14:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Direct link. | 14:56 |
| stinebd | fine | 14:56 |
| stinebd | i'm one of those snobs who thinks his time is worth something | 14:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/11867712/Sdunmount.txt | 14:56 |
| hamagc | lunch time! | 14:57 |
| hamagc | be back in a few | 14:57 |
| NeoMatrixJR | logcat radio pm'd...looks like lots of info in there actually | 14:57 |
| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd: you need anything else? Otherwise I'm switching back to a more usable card. | 14:58 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: no, thanks | 14:58 |
| NeoMatrixJR | any time! | 14:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Link work stinebd? | 14:59 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: yes | 14:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yay. | 14:59 |
| stinebd | NeoMatrixJR: i'm seeing a lot more cdma stuff for you... | 15:01 |
| stinebd | which is interesting | 15:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah, I think it's still able to use CDMA, but it considers GSM primary and can't use data as my phone won't actually connect to GSM services (AFAIK) | 15:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | inbound calls only seemed to work after making an outbound call | 15:06 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: no clue what's happening there | 15:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Eh, it's just unmounting for no real reason you can see? | 15:13 |
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| NeoMatrixJR_tmp | damn cable again | 15:33 |
| NeoMatrixJR_tmp | WisTilt2: what's the test being done on your stuff right now. Just dl'd and booted a minute ago | 15:34 |
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| xUmaRix | rockbox missing libmisc.so where can i find it | 15:40 |
| xUmaRix | hmm adb install -r rockbox-480x800.apk make it work | 15:52 |
| xUmaRix | we still dont hv flash player support ? | 16:10 |
| stinebd | are we supposed to? | 16:11 |
| xUmaRix | stinebd: u get rockbox working? | 16:13 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 39 filed... | 16:20 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=39 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Non-ASCII USSD replies are broken | 16:20 |
| stinebd | ussd? | 16:20 |
| hamagc | wtf? | 16:21 |
| stinebd | i didn't know carriers still use that | 16:22 |
| stinebd | xUmaRix: yes | 16:22 |
| hamagc | thats a gsm only thing right? | 16:22 |
| stinebd | i think so | 16:22 |
| xUmaRix | yes gsn | 16:22 |
| stinebd | phh: how much do you know about the htc ril? | 16:23 |
| phh | not much, but hum, mind being more explicit ? :p | 16:24 |
| stinebd | selecting modem type? | 16:24 |
| stinebd | ie. when hamagc tried it, the ril just whines about missing sim and doesn't try to set up data or anything | 16:24 |
| stinebd | i pulled the ril off of a cm6.0 heroc rom | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | xUmarRix: You compiling rockbox or just trying to install it? | 16:26 |
| xUmaRix | JesusFreak316: just install it | 16:26 |
| xUmaRix | JesusFreak316: adb install -r rockbox-480x800.apk make it work | 16:27 |
| xUmaRix | quite a while for me to figure how to navigate an so on | 16:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok, just wondering 'cause I thought libmisc.so was only required for compiling. Anyways good for you. | 16:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm getting off; restarting in safe mode so I can hopefully get windows update working. | 16:28 |
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| xUmaRix | I/PackageManager( 1521): Package org.rockbox codePath changed from /data/app/rockbox-480x800.apk to /data/app/org.rockbox-1.apk I/PackageManager( 1521): /data/app/org.rockbox-1.apk changed; unpacking D/PackageManager( 1521): Caching shared lib lib/armeabi/libmisc.so D/PackageManager( 1521): Caching shared lib lib/armeabi/librockbox.so D/installd( 1497): DexInv: --- BEGIN '/data/app/org.rockbox-1.apk' --- | 16:28 |
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| phh | stinebd: ah, no, i don't know that | 16:59 |
| phh | stinebd: but first try a gsm ril on gsm phones if you don't mind :p | 16:59 |
| stinebd | i tried dream on mine | 16:59 |
| stinebd | worked well | 16:59 |
| stinebd | heroc works well on mine too | 16:59 |
| stinebd | weird right? | 17:00 |
| stinebd | works well aside from the audio issues anyway | 17:00 |
| phh | wait, data worked too ? | 17:03 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:03 |
| stinebd | using the wrapper | 17:04 |
| xUmaRix | stinebd: did u have issue with sdcard? it is detected at first but after a while i need to mount it back to make it work | 17:14 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 40 filed... | 17:26 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Skype can't connect (user data is correct) | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | Skype? Really people? | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | I didn't think we were supporting 3rd party applications... | 17:29 |
| stinebd | hahaha | 17:29 |
| stinebd | the hell | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | can i just close this? seriously, i didn't think we supported 3rd party app.s | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | does google? | 17:30 |
| stinebd | close it | 17:30 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 40 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | WONTFIX :D | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | love it. | 17:30 |
| stinebd | i once mistyped my password when trying to identify with nickserv using andchat. should i file a bug? | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | YES | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | do it now. | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | it's obviously those retarded dev's faults. | 17:31 |
| stinebd | do eet now, get to da choppa | 17:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | CazH, you alive? | 17:33 |
| xUmaRix | playing mp4 still sux | 17:33 |
| CazH | TheDeadCPU: yeah but busy :) | 17:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | kk ;) | 17:35 |
| CazH | check teh secret channel in you history/log | 17:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol nice | 17:36 |
| CazH | hah yeah | 17:36 |
| hamagc | is someone making fun of my governor? | 17:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | yes | 17:39 |
| hamagc | psh | 17:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | THE RENT IS TO GODDAMNED HIGH | 17:40 |
| hamagc | where? here? | 17:40 |
| hamagc | the beach isn't cheap man | 17:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0 | 17:40 |
| hamagc | haha | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | yea i've seen that cook | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | er | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | kook? | 17:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | maybe if people would learn to live within their means... assuming they don't get fired they should be fine :P | 17:48 |
| hamagc | it's hard to live within the means that welfare gives you... | 17:48 |
| hamagc | sometimes... | 17:48 |
| hamagc | other times i see welfare people riding in their navigators and it makes me wonder why and how | 17:49 |
| hamagc | ehh | 17:49 |
| stinebd | don't make fun of my car | 17:49 |
| stinebd | those 56" rims aren't cheap | 17:49 |
| hamagc | lol i bet | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | welfare is a f-ed up system anyways. i mean i'm all for helping people back on their feet but not for the rest of their lives. | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | 2 years tops, i mean c'mon... | 17:50 |
| hamagc | lol right | 17:50 |
| hamagc | ok goodnight guys. i'm outta here | 18:21 |
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| stinebd | hi emwe | 18:29 |
| emwe | a short re ;) | 18:29 |
| stinebd | get the phone yet? | 18:29 |
| emwe | he wrote will take ~ 2 weeks | 18:30 |
| stinebd | bah | 18:30 |
| stinebd | probably because customs thinks it's ticking | 18:30 |
| emwe | it's air freight. proably a diff to air mail | 18:30 |
| emwe | i hope our ehm... border-control-tax-thingy-office doesn't check the package | 18:30 |
| emwe | toll? | 18:30 |
| emwe | i colleque sometimes has to pick up more expensive orderings from japan at that toll-thingy-office and pay toll | 18:31 |
| stinebd | really? | 18:31 |
| emwe | everything below 25euro is for free. | 18:31 |
| emwe | like gifts... dunno how it behaves with donations | 18:32 |
| stinebd | i've never shipped something into germany | 18:32 |
| emwe | it's a world-wide thingy IMHO | 18:32 |
| stinebd | EU maybe | 18:32 |
| emwe | US has tolls for goods as well | 18:32 |
| emwe | every country has. | 18:32 |
| stinebd | we do? | 18:32 |
| stinebd | we have customs inspections but i've never paid tolls or duties on anything | 18:33 |
| emwe | we'll see ;) | 18:34 |
| stinebd | maybe the stuff i get isn't expensive enough | 18:34 |
| emwe | i think there is a free-limit 25euro here i think | 18:34 |
| stinebd | i went to germany with some guy who bought a sword and had to ship it back home to himself | 18:35 |
| stinebd | who goes overseas to buy a sword? | 18:35 |
| emwe | heh | 18:35 |
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| emwe | gnight | 18:51 |
| stinebd | night | 18:51 |
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20101023_021801) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101023_021801-package.tar.bz2 | 21:13 |
| stinebd | fixed the script | 21:14 |
| GlemSom | I have been thinking... Can we do async to the cf-cards?... It will be more risky - but might give a better performance as we don't need to wait for a write.... ? | 21:16 |
| stinebd | cf? this isn't 1998 | 21:17 |
| GlemSom | Sorry, SD | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | he's thinking in his old camera, c'mon stinebd :P | 21:17 |
| GlemSom | arrrghhh: pfft... stfu :P | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 21:18 |
| stinebd | i think i tried async at some point and it wasn't much of a difference | 21:18 |
| stinebd | well, not so much async in particular | 21:19 |
| GlemSom | Honestly... I thought about this today - can we do async operations on the SD card ?... Ir is that impossible with the double-loop? (ext2 over FAT) ? | 21:19 |
| stinebd | i tried without flush | 21:19 |
| stinebd | we used to have the loopbacks mounted sync | 21:19 |
| stinebd | those are now mounted async, but sdcard is mounted flush (more aggressively writing the buffers to disk), which isn't as bad as sync | 21:19 |
| GlemSom | I thought they were mounted as sync... Guess I missed that... | 21:21 |
| GlemSom | I gotta go... I'll c ya tomorrow | 21:26 |
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| stinebd | bye | 21:26 |
| stinebd | :( | 21:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd is sad without GlemSom :( | 21:27 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: later tell wistilt2 Fix for auto_bl module parameter on boot: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Fix-microp-klt.auto_bl-setting-on-boot.patch | 22:03 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: The operation succeeded. | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | so that'll pm him even if he doesn't appear in the room? just if he signs in on freenode eh? | 22:05 |
| stinebd | no | 22:06 |
| stinebd | but i made the bot join #htc-linux | 22:06 |
| stinebd | and told it to never say anything in there | 22:07 |
| stinebd | so maybe it'll work for later tells | 22:07 |
| stinebd | who knows | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | ll | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | er | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | the bot is from your webpage as well. | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | how convenient... | 22:08 |
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| stinebd | from my webpage? | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | y'know | 22:29 |
| arrrghhh | your webpage. | 22:29 |
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| stinebd | oh | 22:32 |
| stinebd | that'd be my server, yes | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | do you pay for that domain or is it dyndns? | 22:33 |
| stinebd | i own southcape.org | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | south cape... for where you live? | 22:35 |
| stinebd | obscure video game reference | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | i obviously missed it lol | 22:35 |
| stinebd | it's not well known at all | 22:38 |
| stinebd | which is why i like the domain | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | illusion of gaia? | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i swear i've heard of that somewhere before... | 22:48 |
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| stinebd | i hope you didn't spend 10 minutes looking it up | 22:51 |
| stinebd | heh | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | 10 minutes, 30 seconds... | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | either way. | 22:51 |
| stinebd | sorry. you could've asked | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | no worries. | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | i love searching for crap, dunno why. | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | i was just reading the wiki article lol | 22:52 |
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| TheDeadCPU | wow.. This boot has taken like 15 minutes oO | 23:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yay, it booted | 23:13 |
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