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xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 29 filed... | 11:00 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=29 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Phone show boot animation and no service | 11:00 |
xdandroid | arrrghhh@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 29 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. | 11:02 |
arrrghhh | win | 11:02 |
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Aks | morning | 11:34 |
Aks | wassup | 11:35 |
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DIAMX00 | hi there | 12:06 |
DIAMX00 | Im pretty new to this android stuff... | 12:06 |
DIAMX00 | Basic help greatly appreciated... :) | 12:07 |
DIAMX00 | anobody here? | 12:07 |
DIAMX00 | Question is: how to identify the Touchdiamond (DIAM500/DIAM100)? | 12:08 |
DIAMX00 | Any clues? | 12:08 |
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arrrghhh | under the battery | 12:14 |
arrrghhh | should say DIAMXXX | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | GlemSom, what's up dude, did you get the autobuild fixed? | 12:16 |
DIAMX00 | Great hint... Thanx; found it... | 12:16 |
arrrghhh | np | 12:16 |
GlemSom | arrrghhh, Autobuild is broken ? :/ | 12:20 |
GlemSom | It seems quite up-to-date... ? | 12:20 |
arrrghhh | i dunno it seems acl broke it and thinks you're going to fix it :P | 12:20 |
arrrghhh | i guess his usb commits didn't jive with the autobuild. | 12:20 |
GlemSom | Last commit it 69a2efcfc0f477c07aa8608114a5090af6ac83c2... On both GIT repo and my system... | 12:21 |
GlemSom | arrrghhh, Well, ACL pushed some USB changes that broke compat-wireless-msm... So either ther GIT kernel tree should be fixed, or the GIT compat-wireless-msm tree... | 12:22 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 12:22 |
GlemSom | I have how-ever manually put together a packiage WITHOUT compat-wireless-msm (As I also wrote on XDA - and in some comments)... But I'll prefer the problems to be fixed in the official tree - instead of "local hacks" :) | 12:23 |
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arrrghhh | yea i see that. | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | i guess acl will have to fix it then :P | 12:23 |
mizzle | what is the best droid build to put on my htc diamond? | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | mizzle, probably XDAndroid 2.2 | 12:23 |
GlemSom | I know he's in contact with phh about this issue... But I think phh is kinda busy atm... | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | usually newest=best... but not always. | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | ah | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | ok | 12:24 |
mizzle | so 2.2. | 12:24 |
mizzle | where do i ge it from | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | it just seems there's been so much progress lately. | 12:24 |
mizzle | do u have a link | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | mizzle, xda-devs | 12:24 |
GlemSom | arrrghhh, I have informed ACL about the broken USB changes - so I KNOW is is aware of it... :) | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | lol ok. | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | hopefully he fixes it soon | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | i know there's a lot of stuff that's looming to be committed. | 12:25 |
GlemSom | Well, for OUR point of view - we can easily live without compat-wireless-msm... We don't use it in android anyway... | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | oh? | 12:25 |
GlemSom | But people use our kernels for other stuff too | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | ah yea like rhodbuntu | 12:25 |
GlemSom | We use tiwlan... | 12:25 |
GlemSom | exactly! :) | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | i see. | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | so many things to support! | 12:25 |
GlemSom | That was why I put together a package without compat-wireless-msm... So we could test it with android... :) | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | i see. | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | man, it really does amaze me how much just your autobuild supports. incredible. | 12:26 |
GlemSom | I guess I COULD make a branch that does not use compat-wireless-msm.... But, seems kinda stupid to spend time on that, if ACL/phh get the USB things sorted out soon... | 12:27 |
Aks | any news on battery | 12:27 |
arrrghhh | agreed. | 12:27 |
arrrghhh | Aks, what do you mean? | 12:27 |
arrrghhh | it charges, it discharges... it powers things when you can't be plugged in... :P | 12:27 |
GlemSom | If it's not fixed within a week, I might configure a seperate branch - that excluded that... But, we'll see... I guess they both have paying jobs too that they need to take care of... :) | 12:27 |
Aks | arrrghhh | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | i hear that. | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | GlemSom, no worries. keep up the good work :D | 12:29 |
Aks | yesterday camro was saying the current is low while charging | 12:29 |
Aks | and it discharged in 12 hrs yesterday | 12:30 |
Aks | without using | 12:30 |
arrrghhh | 12hrs is a pretty good runtime | 12:30 |
Aks | and the usb adb doesn't work on rhod400 | 12:30 |
Aks | but, I am using v18 | 12:30 |
Aks | not formt he autobuild | 12:30 |
arrrghhh | and? | 12:30 |
Aks | I think ... not sure ... but it charged fast and stayed up longed in earlier builds | 12:31 |
arrrghhh | ok i think you're using some confusing terminology. | 12:31 |
arrrghhh | do you mean it charged in 12hrs yesterday? | 12:32 |
hamagc | danmit, i need a new winmo rom | 12:32 |
arrrghhh | i think you were complaining about usb charging. | 12:32 |
hamagc | i hate roms | 12:32 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, energy. done. | 12:32 |
hamagc | but which one? | 12:32 |
hamagc | lol he has like 30 | 12:32 |
arrrghhh | lol the one for your phone? | 12:32 |
hamagc | ya, 30! | 12:32 |
arrrghhh | besides themeing | 12:32 |
arrrghhh | the only difference is build # | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | right? | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | so one uses the newest bleeding edge 6.5.x | 12:33 |
hamagc | glass dink cht mas this that 2.5 2.1 the other thing jesus | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | and the other is the 'normal'/stable winmo | 12:33 |
hamagc | lol | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | so ignore the themes | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | focus on which you would prefer | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | build # wise | 12:33 |
hamagc | did maxsense become stable yet? | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | then pick the theme you like best | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | i hate maxsense. | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | :P | 12:33 |
mizzle | how do i change the default text thingy | 12:33 |
hamagc | still slow huh? | 12:33 |
hamagc | eh | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | mizzle, uh... wat? | 12:34 |
hamagc | simple then | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | are you talking about when you boot haret it asks for a default.txt file? | 12:34 |
mizzle | i cant load it it always freezes | 12:34 |
mizzle | yes | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | sounds like you didn't copy your startup.txt :P | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | you must read my son. | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | lots, LOTS of reading. | 12:34 |
mizzle | android-diam100-20090222-ALTERNATE | 12:34 |
mizzle | is this ok to use? | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | 2009? | 12:34 |
arrrghhh | feburary 2009? | 12:35 |
arrrghhh | that sounds... ancient. | 12:35 |
arrrghhh | in terms of this project at least :P | 12:35 |
mizzle | i cant seem to find the 2.2 | 12:35 |
arrrghhh | are you on xda-devs? | 12:36 |
mizzle | and that will work with the htc diamond touch 1 | 12:36 |
mizzle | yes | 12:36 |
mizzle | is there a dl section | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | a download section | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | for all of XDA | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | that would be EPIC | 12:36 |
arrrghhh | read this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701566 | 12:37 |
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arrrghhh | where it tells you to download, read that link as well when you're done with the first. | 12:37 |
mizzle | thx | 12:45 |
mizzle | dling now then will try | 12:45 |
arrrghhh | just be sure to read. | 12:50 |
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mizzle | how do i extract this ext2 file? | 13:37 |
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DIAMX00 | OK, xdandroid on DIAM100 works great so far... Thanx... ;) and bye... | 13:39 |
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camro | hi Glemsom | 13:40 |
camro | still here ? | 13:40 |
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Skyguy04 | random question. I'm on the blazn build with latest 10/10 update via the update utility. Should i update to the 10/13 ref build, or just wait for the next blazn build? Or.. will an update be made available via the update utility? | 13:40 |
arrrghhh | utility doesn't update system image | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | only kernel/modules, rootfs & initrd | 13:41 |
Skyguy04 | ah ok, so the 10/13 is a system image update? | 13:41 |
Skyguy04 | if so, i'll just wait for the blazn build. Thanks a bunch | 13:41 |
xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 30 filed... | 13:42 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=30 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, End Key (short press) doesn't function | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | i have no clue | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | there's updates daily | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | sometimes more than once a day lol | 13:42 |
Skyguy04 | ah ok. heh heh. You guys rock. I love to see a project that's so active | 13:42 |
stinebd | wut? | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | i don't know stinebd i was hoping you could make sense of it since you have the same device :P | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | have you tried the newer kernels? they moved power to the power button. | 13:43 |
stinebd | where do you get newer kernels? | 13:43 |
stinebd | KIDDING | 13:43 |
stinebd | i still haven't tried wis's kernel yet | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | d!ck | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | aw | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | his kernels are the shiznit :P i can't wait till that stuff gets committed, it's awesome. | 13:44 |
Skyguy04 | i'm just using reef's 9/29 blazn build. Not too concerned about be cutting edge. :-) It works great for me. | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | that works. | 13:45 |
Skyguy04 | there was a time when i would test every single release as soon as it was committed. I'm too old for that now and actually need my phone if my family calls with an emergency. heh heh | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | lol i can't run Android for that reason :P | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | i test the crap out of it, but i need my phone to work at the same time so i can't run it for extended periods. | 13:47 |
Skyguy04 | oh man, you guys have it stable enough for me. I run xdandroid 100% stable | 13:47 |
Skyguy04 | especially now with the batt fixes. I can leave it in android and charge it | 13:47 |
arrrghhh | you always could before, it just wouldn't report that it was charging :P | 13:47 |
Skyguy04 | i thought it would stop charging when it hit 100% | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | it does | 13:48 |
Skyguy04 | which was immediate | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | hardware prevents it from over charging | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | well | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | it would say 100% | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | but it was still charging. | 13:48 |
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Skyguy04 | oh ok | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | oy, i'm really turning into a broken record trying to support this project. | 13:48 |
Skyguy04 | lol sorry. I do try to follow the forums as much as possible | 13:49 |
Skyguy04 | before, if i left it in android and left it charging all night, i'd wake up and it would be dead | 13:49 |
Skyguy04 | now it stays charged | 13:50 |
Skyguy04 | but you're saying that the hardware has always allowed it to charge to 100% and it would protect the battery, regardless of what the OS reported | 13:50 |
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arrrghhh | hrm | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | i guess i never would leave it overnight lol | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | i use my phone to wake my ass up, can't afford not having it functional. | 13:52 |
Skyguy04 | haha | 13:52 |
Skyguy04 | I use my wife for that | 13:52 |
Skyguy04 | i'll tell ya one thing though. xdandroid has extended the life of this phone. I was really starting to hate it. Now i think i can wait until verizon goes LTE 4G and HTC comes out with some phones that rival my laptop's hardware | 13:53 |
hamagc | i was using mine for an alarm, then started using winmo again for an alarm | 13:55 |
hamagc | i woke up late this mornign | 13:55 |
hamagc | so i'm going back to xdadnroid lol | 13:55 |
Skyguy04 | haha | 13:55 |
hamagc | stupid winmo | 13:55 |
Skyguy04 | xdandroid will wake you up early | 13:56 |
Skyguy04 | that's a "feature" built in | 13:56 |
Skyguy04 | if you let the clock get out of sync enough | 13:56 |
stinebd | wow waiting for lte | 13:57 |
stinebd | your patience is much admirabler than mine | 13:57 |
Skyguy04 | well new every 2 not being up for 7 months is also a factor | 13:58 |
stinebd | oh, there are ways around that | 13:58 |
Skyguy04 | oh/ | 13:59 |
stinebd | such as grand theft handset | 13:59 |
Skyguy04 | ? | 13:59 |
Skyguy04 | haha | 13:59 |
Skyguy04 | how about someone grand theft me a droid 2 then | 13:59 |
stinebd | moto junk | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 14:00 |
Skyguy04 | lol | 14:00 |
Skyguy04 | i like a keyboard. Swype ain't all that and a bag o chips | 14:01 |
stinebd | works for me | 14:01 |
Skyguy04 | it's cool. But not for writing a long email | 14:01 |
stinebd | works especially well at that for me | 14:01 |
stinebd | not as well for ssh though | 14:01 |
stinebd | which i learned the hard way yesterday | 14:02 |
Skyguy04 | maybe it's just the fact i'm using it in portrait? Or that my fingers are too fat? | 14:02 |
stinebd | well i never use it in landscape | 14:02 |
Skyguy04 | i probably just need to get used to where the letters are w/o looking at them | 14:03 |
stinebd | i have it set to sacrifice speed for accuracy | 14:03 |
Skyguy04 | ah | 14:03 |
stinebd | ah, yes. you do need to know qwerty | 14:03 |
Skyguy04 | my fingers know qwerty on a regular keyboard. But i don't. :-D | 14:04 |
stinebd | hmm, i wonder what i was doing last week | 14:05 |
stinebd | my system.ext2 doesn't boot | 14:05 |
Skyguy04 | lol winmo just locked up on me. I knew i shouldn't have left it out of xdandroid for too long | 14:05 |
stinebd | oh yeah, i was trying to wrap system_server in an strace... fail | 14:06 |
Skyguy04 | i don't know what that means, but i hope you learned your lesson | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | i can't stand swype personally. | 14:08 |
Skyguy04 | sounded dirty | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | i can't see where my damned finger is. | 14:08 |
Skyguy04 | same | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | i've got dainty little hands too! | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 14:08 |
Aks | does the browser have pinch n pull ? | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | bbl guys, lunchtime. | 14:08 |
stinebd | Aks: the hardware doesn't support multitouch | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | Aks, without a capacitve screen it won't do a lot of good... | 14:09 |
Skyguy04 | c'ya arrghh | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | capacitive. | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | cya ;) | 14:09 |
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stinebd | xdandroid: later tell GlemSom [14:10:53] <FreeNodeXDA:#htc-linux:Alex[sp3dev]> arrrghhh: here is my patch for the compat-wireless-msm. if phh or GlemSom come after i leave, tell them http://pastebin.com/ecWuvVT8 | 14:11 |
xdandroid | stinebd: The operation succeeded. | 14:11 |
stinebd | hah! | 14:12 |
stinebd | is that it? | 14:12 |
Aks | i have a capacitive screen | 14:13 |
stinebd | i should've tried to build it, i could've figured that out fairly quickly | 14:13 |
Aks | on tp2 | 14:13 |
stinebd | tp2 has a resistive touchscreen with no multitouch | 14:13 |
Aks | is it ? | 14:13 |
Aks | i thot it had capacitive | 14:13 |
stinebd | nope | 14:14 |
Aks | ok | 14:14 |
Aks | so is there a new build | 14:14 |
Skyguy04 | yup, TP2 showing it's age | 14:14 |
stinebd | i've found that i quite prefer a resistive screen for its precision. i often miss it on the n1 | 14:15 |
Aks | i read online - and it said resistive are better performing | 14:15 |
Skyguy04 | anyone able to get the compass or super compass app to work? | 14:16 |
Aks | I was trying to download compass | 14:17 |
Aks | but it fails all the time | 14:17 |
Aks | think the app is too large | 14:17 |
Aks | to download | 14:17 |
Skyguy04 | it downloaded and installed fine for me | 14:18 |
Skyguy04 | are you overclocked to max? | 14:18 |
Aks | yes | 14:19 |
Aks | 768 | 14:19 |
Skyguy04 | try putting it on medium | 14:19 |
Skyguy04 | max screws up a lot of stuff for me | 14:19 |
Skyguy04 | think medium is 719? | 14:20 |
Aks | not sure ... but it has been working fine till now :) | 14:21 |
Aks | so, as I was asking, is there any new updates on the builds ? | 14:23 |
Skyguy04 | 10/13 update to reference | 14:23 |
Skyguy04 | https://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 14:23 |
hamagc | hmm with the kernel posted on glemsom (not the offical kernel but the one he posted a link to) my data seem to not work :( | 14:24 |
Skyguy04 | as arrrgh would say, there is an update or 2 every day. But you'd have to compile a build yourself from git | 14:24 |
Aks | and there are builds by multiple people .. are they all in line each other - means are they building and repairing each others build | 14:25 |
Aks | or are there multiple threads | 14:25 |
Aks | thats a Oct 13 build on the autobuild site | 14:26 |
hamagc | 10/13? | 14:26 |
hamagc | i see 10/12 | 14:26 |
Aks | I am sticking with camaro's build whihc is same as NoeMatrix ... but are others using the same to build upon ? | 14:27 |
Aks | I see 10/13 6 pm build | 14:27 |
hamagc | on glemsoms site? | 14:27 |
Aks | Oct 13, 2010 6:36 PM | 14:27 |
hamagc | htc-msm-linux @ 20101012_090720 is the top build | 14:27 |
hamagc | or are you looking at balsats site? or threads on xda? | 14:28 |
Aks | link please ? | 14:28 |
hamagc | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 14:28 |
hamagc | these are like the official xda kernels | 14:28 |
Aks | i m using this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788815 | 14:29 |
Aks | donno whose build is this ? | 14:29 |
Aks | but works ok | 14:29 |
hamagc | oh those are just test kernels | 14:29 |
hamagc | not official | 14:29 |
hamagc | and thats camro's build | 14:30 |
hamagc | still on v18 | 14:30 |
Aks | ya i kindof like them | 14:30 |
hamagc | they work great but break data on cdma tp1's | 14:32 |
stinebd | 5:07 am | 14:32 |
stinebd | clock is a bit off | 14:32 |
hamagc | stinebd: which kernel are you on? | 14:33 |
stinebd | 2.6.27.46-01204-g69a2efc | 14:33 |
hamagc | data working? | 14:34 |
stinebd | most likely | 14:34 |
stinebd | i don't have a sim card in my phone | 14:34 |
hamagc | no svc. good point | 14:34 |
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hamagc | arrrghhh: have you seen any reports of data issues with glemsom non-offical posted kernel? | 14:41 |
stinebd | RFC time | 14:42 |
stinebd | navipad remap | 14:42 |
stinebd | home = home, back = back, power = power. need a menu key for rhod i guess | 14:43 |
stinebd | any ideas? | 14:43 |
hamagc | no hard menu keys you can use? | 14:44 |
stinebd | i think it only has 4 face keys (and no center button/dpad) | 14:44 |
stinebd | start call, win, back and end call | 14:44 |
hamagc | hmm, can you use a long hold or a 2 key press? | 14:45 |
stinebd | no | 14:45 |
hamagc | well what a pita | 14:46 |
hamagc | whats menu now? | 14:46 |
stinebd | win? | 14:46 |
stinebd | i guess we'd have to keep rhod the same | 14:47 |
hamagc | leave that, make end call home and power power and call call | 14:47 |
stinebd | end call can't be home, you nuts | 14:47 |
hamagc | so win=menu, back=back, power = power, call= call, end= home | 14:48 |
hamagc | why not?" | 14:48 |
stinebd | first time someone tries to hang up, they go back to launcher and start cursing at people thinking they hung up on them | 14:48 |
hamagc | lol | 14:48 |
hamagc | well.. | 14:48 |
hamagc | on the tp1 with the end call routed to home, when in call, it hangs up before goign to home | 14:49 |
hamagc | wouldn't work the same on rhod? | 14:49 |
stinebd | we don't have end call mapped to home | 14:50 |
stinebd | power is (was) home | 14:50 |
stinebd | right now nothing is home | 14:50 |
hamagc | right, we have to use spare parts to set end button to home | 14:50 |
hamagc | but it still works as an end button first | 14:50 |
hamagc | but i don't have a tp2 to play with so no idea if it works the same | 14:51 |
stinebd | yeah i don't think we can do that for just rhodium | 14:51 |
stinebd | well hmm | 14:52 |
stinebd | i wonder if there's a way to set that in a frameworks res | 14:52 |
stinebd | that would be nice to default to home if possible | 14:53 |
stinebd | do the research and get back to me hamagc | 14:53 |
hamagc | hmm | 14:53 |
hamagc | my sources tell me anytihng is possible | 14:54 |
hamagc | stupid 8ball, that means nothing to me! | 14:54 |
stinebd | Settings.System.END_BUTTON_BEHAVIOR | 14:55 |
hamagc | String END_BUTTON_BEHAVIOR What happens when the user presses the end call button if they're not on a call. | 14:59 |
hamagc | so in theory if they are on a call, it is still end call, if not, then you can set it | 14:59 |
hamagc | but there is a downside, we lose our recent apps list. end call and power button both bring up shutdown options | 15:02 |
hamagc | but the recent apps list isn't a huge deal anyways | 15:02 |
hamagc | it's just recent apps, not a task manager | 15:02 |
hamagc | brb | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | ah yes. rehasing everything with that again lol | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, in winmo end call = home basically... so it makes sense to me. | 15:16 |
stinebd | ok | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | you have to hit end call 2+ times for it to be the home key. | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | first end call (if in a call) would end the call. | 15:16 |
stinebd | listen here | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | learn me good. | 15:17 |
stinebd | if you're talking about things that make sense... do NOT cite winmo behavior | 15:17 |
stinebd | if we're gonna go the winmo route, i might as well just put in a random crash timer | 15:17 |
stinebd | oh wait i did that already | 15:17 |
stinebd | there is a setting for it to do exactly that, though | 15:18 |
stinebd | end call once = home, again at home = sleep | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | i don't like that :P | 15:19 |
stinebd | me neither | 15:19 |
stinebd | which is why i shall remove the setting from the code | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | how do native android devices do it? | 15:19 |
stinebd | just to show google who's boss | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | is there a hard home button on all android devices? | 15:19 |
stinebd | android devices have enough keys | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | bah | 15:19 |
stinebd | yem | 15:19 |
stinebd | they all have home and back, most (all?) have search and some form of menu key (or trackball press) | 15:21 |
stinebd | and the recent ones built for froyo and beyond have no start/end call keys | 15:21 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:25 |
arrrghhh | that sucks. | 15:25 |
arrrghhh | i kinda miss my mogul | 15:25 |
arrrghhh | buttons EVERYWHERE | 15:25 |
stinebd | ugh | 15:27 |
stinebd | can't set this in an overlay | 15:27 |
stinebd | i hate android so much | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | it hates you. | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, i guess live wallpapers doesn't work on your fancy new pre-FRX02 system image? I didn't think we supported those stupid things. | 15:37 |
stinebd | ? | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | reading posts on the forums. | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | arguing with ppls online as usual. | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | good lord people are stupid. | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | i'm not even sure why i try. | 15:42 |
hamagc | lp's haven't worked since frx01 | 15:43 |
hamagc | lwp's* | 15:43 |
hamagc | if memory serves correct (which it rarely does) | 15:44 |
stinebd | lwp's have never "worked" | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | this dude claims a couple worked with frx01 system image. | 15:44 |
stinebd | only 2D ones could run, anything with renderscript would die | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | yea | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | like the mario one | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | but since we don't support it... i don't see what it matters. | 15:45 |
stinebd | it doesn't | 15:45 |
stinebd | unsupported stuff is unsupported | 15:45 |
hamagc | mario worked | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | thank you :D | 15:45 |
hamagc | and plasma and zombies and a couple of others but it was limited and unsupported | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | yea | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | unsupported doesn't make sense to peoples. | 15:46 |
hamagc | lol | 15:46 |
stinebd | if they want to sideload lwp packages onto their phones, they can. doesn't mean we have to help them | 15:46 |
hamagc | i still played with them, i didn't notice any real negative effects but we're no where near ready for implemention | 15:46 |
hamagc | but with the newer frx's they don't work perioid | 15:47 |
hamagc | i believe it's a permissions issue | 15:47 |
stinebd | unless someone comes by with an opengles 1.0 renderscript implementation, i will never, ever, EVER, include lwp packages again | 15:47 |
hamagc | so i don't know how someone stated they had them working | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | eh | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | i dunno | 15:47 |
camro | stinebd: can you implement a little bit more detail in future, if the system is goinf down ? (ex: temp>68° or volume=0) ? | 15:47 |
hamagc | ehh | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | i never messed with 'em | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | everyone wants sense & angrybirds. i'd prefer to have stability first :P | 15:48 |
hamagc | they are fun for the first like 10 minutes | 15:48 |
stinebd | camro: you drive me crazy | 15:48 |
hamagc | me too, stability and battery. until then, whats the point? | 15:48 |
camro | it's only an idea ... it's up2to .. | 15:48 |
camro | for now i have no idea, why the system is going down - if it is temp or volume .. | 15:49 |
camro | anyway ... just a note .. | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:49 |
stinebd | why don't you have your own build environment? :P | 15:49 |
camro | what make me really crazy - is the lock screen ... after x-min it set back automatically to lock with slider .. | 15:50 |
camro | this whole battery stuff is a mess | 15:50 |
camro | too much devices .. | 15:50 |
hamagc | i can only imagine lol | 15:50 |
camro | soon i'll give up, it's a fight on several frontes | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | eh let's just forget about the raph | 15:50 |
hamagc | whats this project at now? 15+ devices? | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | leave it behind. | 15:50 |
hamagc | lol thanks | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | diam too | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | hahahaha np. :P | 15:51 |
hamagc | thats ok cause i'm getting something new this month lol | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | oh yea? | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | goin native android? | 15:51 |
hamagc | i am | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | nice. | 15:51 |
hamagc | time to ditch this winmo crap and get something useful in my pocket | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | what are you going to get? | 15:51 |
hamagc | prob. hero | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | i'm sorry. | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | :P | 15:51 |
hamagc | lol why? | 15:51 |
hamagc | i was thinking about a tp2 but i want a real upgrade :P | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | i just can't handle the no-kbd thing. | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | yea | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | i wouldn't have bought the tp2 | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | it's a nice upgrade, don't get me wrong. | 15:52 |
hamagc | lol | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | but the internals being the same pains be greatly. | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | i told a sprint rep that and he called me a liar | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | said the tp2 runs way better than the tp1, couldn't have the same specs... | 15:52 |
hamagc | lol ya reps don't always know anything | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | they usually know nothing. | 15:52 |
hamagc | mhmm | 15:52 |
hamagc | but they know how to do nothing pretty well | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | i started talking about capacitive and resistive screens and his eyes glazed over | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | i was trying to ask him questions about 'em lol | 15:53 |
hamagc | i like the hero over the moment or anytihng new that just came out. no kb but i think i'll live | 15:53 |
hamagc | if not i'll sell it and get somethign else | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | yea i wasn't a fan of the moment | 15:53 |
stinebd | camro: i can put a simple logcat in the battery service for emergency shutdowns. is it okay if i just put the reason or do you need fancy temp/charge numbers too? | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:53 |
hamagc | i liked teh transform but just read a review that it sucked | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | didn't see that one. | 15:53 |
hamagc | same basic specs as the moment but with a front camera | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | the epic seems like it would be the right device for me, but i couldn't get it. | 15:54 |
hamagc | and i doubt my woman will get me an epic or evo | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:54 |
hamagc | so next best is hero lol | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | let you? | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | c'mon. | 15:54 |
hamagc | let me? get me | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | oh | 15:54 |
stinebd | (regarding battery emergency shutdowns... imagine how hard it was to figure out what was causing rhodiums to reboot when they first added that code) | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | what? | 15:54 |
camro | stinebd: logcat would be fine ..if temp and/or level can be added - would be best .. | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | now i'm really confused. | 15:54 |
hamagc | my bday is at the end of the month so i can't get me anything lol | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | oh | 15:55 |
arrrghhh | i didn't realize it was a gift :P | 15:55 |
camro | but only if it is not too compilcated to hold it sync with the framework .. | 15:55 |
camro | otherwise - don't do it .. | 15:55 |
stinebd | camro: it's a couple of one-liners, it's fine | 15:55 |
stinebd | and it's not a permanent change like the reboot thing would be | 15:55 |
camro | ok, thanks | 15:55 |
stinebd | time to update the gapps package too | 15:56 |
camro | because otherwise i only get the msg: POWER OFF, and noone can tell me why ... | 15:56 |
hamagc | woot! 2.5 weeks | 15:56 |
hamagc | and pot may be legal | 15:56 |
stinebd | then you'll be complaining about the cost of a carton of joints | 15:57 |
camro | but today i used my phone for business ... 1hr later i saw, android is nut useable for business ...(not on such hardware like htc hd ) | 15:57 |
camro | too slow .. | 15:57 |
hamagc | damn right i will be! | 15:57 |
camro | back to wm .. | 15:57 |
stinebd | blackstone? | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | cost of a carton of joints? | 15:57 |
camro | yes | 15:57 |
hamagc | mhmm | 15:57 |
stinebd | it's not the hardware's fault really | 15:57 |
stinebd | it's my shitty porting job | 15:57 |
hamagc | marlboro greens | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | i just love how the medi shops have matched street prices for pot... seems nefarious to say in the least. | 15:57 |
camro | well, i needed: navigation, telephon, email + contacts +sms .. | 15:58 |
stinebd | one day i'll find the trick to make it run fast | 15:58 |
hamagc | lol right. that just to stay competitive while making the most money they can | 15:58 |
camro | after pressing a key - had to wait ~20sec before doing the next char | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | flip the switch stine, c'mon. | 15:58 |
hamagc | i imgine not much will change if it becomes legal, prices will drop and taxes will increase so pricing won't change | 15:58 |
camro | stinebd: the trick is the hardware ... won't run smooth on java virtual engine | 15:59 |
camro | never mind ...it's just for fun .. | 15:59 |
hamagc | oh so we need new hardware?!? | 16:00 |
hamagc | lol | 16:00 |
stinebd | camro: ?? | 16:00 |
camro | well, the hardware what i want is not existing on the market .. | 16:00 |
camro | stinebd: what ? | 16:00 |
stinebd | i'm not sure what you mean by that | 16:00 |
camro | what, that the whole system is slow ? | 16:01 |
stinebd | [15:59:42] <camro> stinebd: the trick is the hardware ... won't run smooth on java virtual engine | 16:01 |
camro | ex: java engine ..java is not the fastest way to run an app | 16:02 |
stinebd | not quite java | 16:02 |
stinebd | dalvik is highly optimized | 16:02 |
camro | anyhow ... i lost my dream today - to switch to android forever .. not with that hardware | 16:03 |
camro | hmm, dalvik - high optimized ... hmm | 16:03 |
camro | puh, about that we can discuss :) | 16:03 |
stinebd | there's something wrong with our port in particular | 16:03 |
stinebd | froyo runs fairly well even on g1 | 16:03 |
camro | translate it to asm, then take a seat and look through ... | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | yea i think there's a lot of things wrong with our port :P | 16:04 |
camro | i made a dump of small funcs .. | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if anyone from google or htc could help with the project even if they wanted to. | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | i would think google yes, htc no. | 16:04 |
camro | if wanted ... | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | i guess it depends on what they choose to work on. | 16:04 |
stinebd | msm is supposed to accelerate java | 16:05 |
stinebd | maybe there's some secret switch that we need to turn that on | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | FLIP THE SWITCH! | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | :P | 16:05 |
camro | well, we have a lot to optimize ... memory mapping | 16:06 |
stinebd | btw, if you think dalvik is bad go run a big J2ME app heh | 16:06 |
camro | anyhow .. today, i saw, that google can'T fix a bug on ics (appointments, attendees,invites) - not supported TIL NOW | 16:07 |
camro | thats are basisc .. | 16:07 |
camro | shame on them | 16:07 |
camro | there are not many alternatives .. | 16:08 |
camro | anyhow .. maybe i must open the next bottle of wine, to relax myself .. | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:08 |
camro | but today i really blame me with the android .. | 16:08 |
camro | slow like year 1980 | 16:08 |
camro | maybe i'm born 100 year to early .. | 16:09 |
camro | +s | 16:09 |
camro | anyhow, so what was today with glemsom ? | 16:09 |
camro | arrrghhh: autobuild / usb / removing the patch from acl ? | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | still no go | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | either compat-wireless-msm tree needs a-fixin' | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | or someone needs to fix acl's patch. | 16:11 |
camro | i thought, that acl talked with him, that he will take care of the extra modules, which doesn'T work together wirh the usb stuff ? | 16:11 |
camro | and who is taking care of it ? | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | yea they've been talking | 16:11 |
camro | every one waiting for another guy ? | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | lol seems to be. | 16:11 |
stinebd | there's a patch | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, i think it may not be 'approved' tho... | 16:12 |
camro | patch for what ? | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | it seems alex has had that patch for a while. | 16:12 |
stinebd | [14:10:53] <FreeNodeXDA:#htc-linux:Alex[sp3dev]> arrrghhh: here is my patch for the compat-wireless-msm. if phh or GlemSom come after i leave, tell them http://pastebin.com/ecWuvVT8 | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | to remove some stuff we don't need anymore. | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | yes. | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | that patch. | 16:12 |
stinebd | approved? | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | lol did you read that paste? | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | pastebin is having troubles. | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, yea from the sound of it alex's patch isn't going to pass the phh-test. | 16:12 |
stinebd | why? | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | not sure. | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | alex didn't seem too confident lol | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | made it sound like a messy hack. | 16:13 |
stinebd | err | 16:14 |
stinebd | the entire arch/arm/mach-msm tree is a messy hack | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | fair enough. | 16:14 |
camro | so, phh must take a look ont that ? | 16:14 |
stinebd | not sure why a compat wrapper for 2.6.28 is causing problems on a 2.6.27 kernel codebase | 16:14 |
camro | ok, so it looks like, that i will soon work again .. | 16:15 |
camro | dunno about this module | 16:15 |
stinebd | how's that 2.6.35 tree going? | 16:16 |
stinebd | heh | 16:16 |
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camro | .35 - we will not switch to .35 before next 3-5 month | 16:19 |
camro | my opin.. | 16:19 |
camro | hmm, well i'm also onhold - til my patch is online .. | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | bummer | 16:21 |
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nntb | a irc chat within a wiki ^^ cute | 16:21 |
camro | well, there are a lot of things to fix, first will be the wakeup .. too slow - and not always working .. | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | sometimes it's instanteous tho | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | it's very odd | 16:22 |
Aks | absolutely | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | android seems finnicky... and winmo is just broken lol. | 16:22 |
nntb | so i am using XDAndroid on my Touch pro 2 CDMA sprint whatever. and its cool and all | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | where's the but | 16:23 |
camro | and then also, i have no idea .. but sometimes my device did auto-shutdown (level never times on 0% ..strange .. | 16:23 |
nntb | i notice i have to enable stuff in win moble to get it to work in android | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | nntb, like? | 16:23 |
hamagc | somethings, yes | 16:23 |
nntb | like wifi or usb (active sync) stuff like that | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | usb yes | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | wifi... no. | 16:24 |
hamagc | xdandroid is still dependent on winmo | 16:24 |
hamagc | for some hardware initalization | 16:24 |
nntb | relly ill try booting with wifi off... | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | read the faq pls. | 16:24 |
hamagc | wifi doesn't make a different | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | one of the fifteen of 'em, doesn't matter. | 16:24 |
nntb | oh 3d acceleration just seems to disable the animation on boot | 16:24 |
hamagc | as long as you are up to date on the build within the last 9 months? wifi works on it's own | 16:24 |
nntb | dosnt apear to have any preformence boost | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | eh 3d doesn't really. | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | just takes some load off of the main proc. | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | i don't think it's fully optimized yet. scratch that, i know it's not. | 16:25 |
hamagc | def. not | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | i have it enabled and my boot anim still shows tho... | 16:25 |
nntb | really boot animation is black | 16:25 |
nntb | when i enable it | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | blazn or reference? | 16:25 |
nntb | refrence | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | i dunno. | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | works for me. are you using that damned update utility to enable it? | 16:26 |
hamagc | lol | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | i'm just going to blame all problems on that thing :P | 16:26 |
nntb | i am not to big on blazn becuase i had issues with the app loader pro or whatever its called | 16:26 |
hamagc | mgjupdateutil | 16:26 |
nntb | it expired or somthing | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | nntb, yea it does that. | 16:26 |
nntb | and yeah i couldnt do anything. | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | reload! :D | 16:26 |
nntb | yeah | 16:27 |
nntb | im sticking to refrence | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | so wifi should work. | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | assuming you're updating modules with zimage. | 16:27 |
nntb | i uninstall the cab | 16:27 |
nntb | then install the new cab | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | so you don't know. | 16:28 |
hamagc | damn cabsQ! | 16:28 |
nntb | its windows mobile. lol | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | i don't think the cab deletes anything | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | when you remove it. | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | other than the shortcuts. | 16:28 |
nntb | it does | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | not sure, never used the cab. lol hamagc knows how i feel about the cab. | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | nntb, so i deletes ALL the stuff it puts on your SD...? | 16:28 |
nntb | when i did it it seemed to | 16:28 |
hamagc | cabs are crap for this project | 16:28 |
hamagc | makes it so everything is a little different and no one really knows if they are up to date or not | 16:29 |
hamagc | they just know they are up to date on the latest cab | 16:29 |
hamagc | which was made a month ago | 16:29 |
nntb | its silly but i have to reinstall garmen xt evory time i boot xdandroid | 16:29 |
nntb | makes no since | 16:29 |
hamagc | and is missing all the 15 updates taht have happened in the past month | 16:29 |
camro | arrrghhh: whats about some users which are telling, that the HOME KEY / POWER KEY, then can'T work with that version ? | 16:29 |
arrrghhh | nntb, does that run on your sd card? | 16:29 |
camro | is there something true ? | 16:29 |
nntb | but xd android effects the install somehow on my sd card | 16:29 |
nntb | yeah | 16:29 |
hamagc | camro: i believe those are the people that haven't moved the end key to home in spare parts | 16:30 |
nntb | i dont have enough internal space for a gps system XD its a touch pro 2 | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | camro, i don't know. some RHOD users (so far it only seems to be the rhod100 guys) complain about that. i don't get it. | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, i've crossed that bridge... | 16:30 |
hamagc | oh | 16:30 |
hamagc | damn | 16:30 |
hamagc | i tried for an easy answer | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | yea, i don't get it. | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | had a raph110 guy tell me the same thing. | 16:30 |
nntb | oh i want to say | 16:30 |
nntb | thank you evoryone | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | stine never confirmed nor denied tho :P | 16:30 |
nntb | for supporting the touch pro 2 | 16:30 |
hamagc | well wtf? | 16:31 |
nntb | its verry much apreacated | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | not sure about garmin. may want to have separate SD's if it's a big deal... | 16:31 |
hamagc | thank the big guys | 16:31 |
nntb | this is my first time here on the irc | 16:31 |
hamagc | per stinebd: if you want to say thanks, hit that donate button :D | 16:31 |
nntb | if i see one of them ill repeat my self | 16:31 |
nntb | id love to but no job | 16:31 |
hamagc | ahh, you must be american lol | 16:32 |
nntb | yep | 16:32 |
hamagc | from cali? | 16:32 |
camro | hehe | 16:32 |
nntb | nope | 16:32 |
nntb | washington | 16:32 |
hamagc | oh, close enough | 16:32 |
hamagc | damn unemployment rates | 16:32 |
camro | since arni is in cali the boss - no money left ... all to austria - LOL | 16:32 |
hamagc | lol ya apparently austria is the place to look for work | 16:33 |
hamagc | lol i can't blame arni though | 16:33 |
hamagc | i think he did a good job | 16:33 |
hamagc | he took on a mess | 16:33 |
hamagc | and well not much has changed but (minus the economy) nothing has really gotten worse for us | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | ouch hamagc. that burns. | 16:34 |
camro | arni is born 20 miles from my home :) | 16:34 |
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camro | was .. | 16:34 |
Aks | except taxes | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | ha, he can't be president tho. | 16:34 |
Aks | which have increased | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | i bet that pains him greatly :P | 16:34 |
hamagc | ya, taxes went up | 16:34 |
Aks | and when i file returns I get IOUs | 16:34 |
hamagc | but mexicans can't get a drivers license now | 16:34 |
nntb | is there a way to foce a connection to wifi? like when i tap it and say connect its says Scanning... Connecting... Disconected over and over | 16:34 |
hamagc | i didn't get an iou lol | 16:35 |
hamagc | nntb: sounds like a kernel error | 16:35 |
Aks | oh, I got it in '08 | 16:35 |
Aks | big LOL | 16:35 |
hamagc | i got like 4k on my return last year | 16:35 |
hamagc | i was smiling | 16:35 |
hamagc | :) | 16:35 |
nntb | could it be because i am using some non XDandorid files with my XDandroid? | 16:35 |
Aks | ya, they were giving out IOUs in 07-08 | 16:35 |
hamagc | like what? all there is is kernel, rootfs and system | 16:36 |
nntb | um one sec | 16:36 |
hamagc | kernel is the only thing that can really be non-xdandroid (test kernels) | 16:36 |
hamagc | ya i remember the iou crap, and they got interest for that | 16:36 |
nntb | modules-2.6.27.46-01162-g741ab49-dirty.tar.gz and a diffrent zimage | 16:36 |
hamagc | thats a test kernel | 16:36 |
nntb | and psfreedom.ko | 16:37 |
hamagc | ahh psfreedom screws everything up | 16:37 |
hamagc | lol | 16:37 |
hamagc | don't quote me on that | 16:37 |
nntb | yah i guess... but i kind of need it atm | 16:37 |
nntb | im working on porting XMBC over to the ps3 >.<;; and need to test builds | 16:37 |
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hamagc | psfreedom isn't supporeted by the project so it's kinda use at your own risk | 16:38 |
nntb | thats good | 16:38 |
nntb | the less its suported the less likeley sony will sue | 16:38 |
hamagc | i don't think they can now | 16:38 |
nntb | i say dont ever officaly suport it in xdandroid | 16:38 |
stinebd | sony can't sue for that | 16:38 |
Aks | boy, on Ac power the batt is charging really fast | 16:38 |
hamagc | they just passed law that stops them from suing | 16:39 |
Aks | up to 75% in 20 mins ???? | 16:39 |
hamagc | thats why it's on xda, or it would have been taken down within minutes i'm sure | 16:39 |
hamagc | aks, don't beleive the charging status | 16:39 |
helicopter88 | long live to xda! | 16:39 |
Aks | ok, just keep it on then ? | 16:39 |
helicopter88 | yes | 16:39 |
hamagc | ya, the battery will charge until it's full, regardless what android says | 16:39 |
Aks | ok | 16:40 |
helicopter88 | or to be sure is charged,charge on wm | 16:40 |
Aks | yesterday I was charging with usb and it went up 15% in 4 hrs | 16:40 |
Aks | ok | 16:40 |
nntb | do you think led suport will ever come to android on the touch pro 2? | 16:40 |
hamagc | yep | 16:41 |
nntb | awsome ^^ | 16:41 |
hamagc | sooner or later | 16:41 |
hamagc | sooner most likely | 16:41 |
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nntb | live wallpapers run slow XD | 16:41 |
nntb | but its fine | 16:41 |
nntb | android on the rhodium cdma has come a long ways | 16:42 |
nntb | i remember when it didnt have sound XD | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | led support is already here... | 16:42 |
hamagc | has it been commited? | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | uh... what? | 16:42 |
hamagc | wistilts work right? | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean? | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | that's ambi light | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | and button lights | 16:43 |
hamagc | ohhh | 16:43 |
hamagc | flash? | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | no flash on rhod. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | er | 16:43 |
hamagc | what other leds do you have? | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | what are you talkin bout | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | status indicators up top | 16:43 |
hamagc | lol led flash, not adobe flash | 16:43 |
hamagc | oh ok | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | yea there is no flash on rhod... :( | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | stupid. | 16:43 |
hamagc | oh ya | 16:43 |
nntb | the let on the top when its charging or blinking when you have a txt | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | yea that's already enabled/available. | 16:43 |
camro | stinebd: you know, that: which key file is the default ? | 16:44 |
nntb | humm mine sticks to whatever it was on windows previously | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | nntb, well it should indicate sleep/wake status. | 16:44 |
nntb | so if i am charging in windows | 16:44 |
nntb | it will be red wether screen is on or off pluged into usb or not in android | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | you should clear the led status in winmo if possible because it will stick until android tries to take control of it. | 16:44 |
stinebd | camro: need more specific question | 16:45 |
camro | stinebd: and there are the codes for the keys, and that should be possible to remap, correct ? | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | oh yea. of course dude. | 16:45 |
nntb | i can do that by unpluging the usb... but then when i plug in the usb in android the light for charging dosnt illumanate | 16:45 |
stinebd | camro: what do you want to remap? | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | yea | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | the lights indicate sleep/wake nntb. if you want to change them you have to use ledeffects. | 16:45 |
camro | stinebd: so it should be possible to map a LONG PRESS VOLL KEY, too ? | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | not sure if that's fully working for rhod tho, i think someone said it is. | 16:46 |
stinebd | camro: no | 16:46 |
nntb | is ledeffects a 3rd party app? | 16:46 |
camro | ok | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | kinda sorta | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | i think an xda member wrote it, not sure. | 16:46 |
nntb | ah | 16:46 |
nntb | opengl work on xdandroid? | 16:46 |
hamagc | chmonix? | 16:46 |
stinebd | camro: unfortunately we have no way to remap long presses, double presses, and the sort. all that is hard-coded. | 16:46 |
hamagc | or however he spells it | 16:46 |
hamagc | chamonix? | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | nntb, i think v1 but not 2. | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, don't think so tbh... | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | i know who you speak of tho. | 16:47 |
stinebd | ledeffects was chamonix | 16:47 |
Aks | arrrghhh : which build are you running ? | 16:47 |
camro | stinebd: hard coded ? - that mean it could be handled - but must be in kernel ? | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | Aks, custom. all over. why? | 16:47 |
stinebd | camro: somewhere in android (frameworks/base) | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | really? | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | impressive. didn't think he had it in him lol | 16:48 |
hamagc | i think he also made command center | 16:48 |
camro | ok, this will also one of my next things .. | 16:48 |
hamagc | which is what i use to run most of my logs | 16:48 |
camro | i want to get on long press VOL KEY -> to call a task switcher | 16:48 |
camro | must be possible somehow .. | 16:48 |
stinebd | camro: fair warning, that's probably very non-trivial | 16:48 |
camro | why ? | 16:48 |
camro | do you remember on AEbutton ? | 16:49 |
stinebd | android has very specific ideas of how it handles buttons | 16:49 |
Aks | arrrghhh: I know which ZImage are you using ? | 16:49 |
stinebd | for instance, the window manager is involved in end call handling | 16:49 |
arrrghhh | custom. | 16:49 |
nntb | oh why is shareware bundled with xdandroid? does xdandroid make money for doing that on the blazn build | 16:49 |
arrrghhh | shareware? | 16:50 |
stinebd | xdandroid does not distribute the blazn build | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | yea that's reef's creation. | 16:50 |
nntb | the app launcher pro (asks for money to turn into plus or somthing) | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | oh | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | that's a free app. | 16:50 |
camro | hmm, well if there is a will it must be possible .. | 16:50 |
stinebd | it's definitely possible | 16:50 |
stinebd | but it's probably ugly | 16:50 |
camro | well, thanks | 16:51 |
nntb | when you are moving a app and it trys to resize or somthing it mentions thats a pay feature. | 16:51 |
camro | maybe at first we must try to optimize the system | 16:51 |
camro | we need a stable base | 16:51 |
Aks | camro: is v18 your latest build ? | 16:51 |
stinebd | sadly there's only one person working on the system images and he usually only gets 1 day a week to do it | 16:52 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: find someone to take over maintaining userland for me | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | nntb, it is a pay feature. | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, if i knew i would :D | 16:57 |
nntb | arrrghhh, what do you call free software with pay features? | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | well | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | you have the option of paying for them. | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | just don't use blazn if you have a problem with it lol | 17:00 |
nntb | i dont have a issue | 17:00 |
nntb | i was just wondering if someone was collecting money becuase its a smart buisness move to include shareware thats all | 17:00 |
nntb | and if they arent they should | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | no body is trying to make money off of this | 17:02 |
nntb | ok | 17:02 |
hamagc | i am trying to make money off of it, but i fail missribly | 17:03 |
hamagc | can't even spell it right | 17:03 |
nntb | did you help develop it hamagc | 17:03 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:03 |
hamagc | lol no | 17:03 |
arrrghhh | we'd be nowhere without hamagc :P | 17:03 |
hamagc | :D | 17:03 |
arrrghhh | just like we'd be nowhere without me BWHAHAHAA | 17:03 |
nntb | are we somewhere? | 17:04 |
hamagc | i disagree, we'd be behind and have alot more whinners | 17:04 |
hamagc | arrrghhh scares away the people we don't want to deal with lol | 17:04 |
nntb | ... im so confused | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | nntb, just ignore whatever we say. | 17:04 |
nntb | so there is another android project? | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | you'll be just fine. | 17:04 |
hamagc | he is our xdandroid bouncer bwhahahaha | 17:04 |
nntb | for the touch pro 2? | 17:05 |
hamagc | there are many android projects | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | not that i know of. | 17:05 |
Aks | remmeber that italian guy yesterday ? | 17:05 |
hamagc | xdandroid is one of them | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | for RHOD specifically tho? | 17:05 |
nntb | i only know of xdandroid | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | i mean there's rhodbuntu, but that uses kernels from glensom's autobuild. | 17:05 |
nntb | or wait and the one thingy on ppcgeeks or whatever | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | nntb, same thing. | 17:05 |
hamagc | no, basically just xdandroid for the msm7k devices | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | yea if someone else was doin their own thing i'd want to talk to them | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | be like JOIN US! | 17:05 |
nntb | android is linux right? | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | yes | 17:06 |
nntb | can wine work on android | 17:06 |
nntb | ? | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | it's based on linux | 17:06 |
hamagc | there are side projeccts that are forked off of this project but in the end it all comes back here | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | what? | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | why? | 17:06 |
nntb | i want to run mspaint | 17:06 |
nntb | on my android | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 17:06 |
nntb | the old one | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | dude... | 17:06 |
nntb | from windows 3.11 | 17:06 |
hamagc | microsoft on android? | 17:06 |
hamagc | no no android on microsoft | 17:06 |
nntb | wine is not a emulator | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | there's not an app that is like paint? | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | i have no clue. | 17:07 |
nntb | but it lets you run windows stuff on linux | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | yes | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | but android runs a very stripped linux kernel. | 17:07 |
stinebd | RAPH USERS RFT: http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs-20101015-4bfd68c.img.zip | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | it is still the linux kernel, but just like on a router it's not the full linux kernel. | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | what's that for stine? | 17:07 |
stinebd | navipad remap | 17:08 |
hamagc | downloading | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | ah | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | nntb, people aren't trying to run mspaint on their routers, so you shouldn't on your android phone :P | 17:09 |
nntb | do you think this will work http://www.howtoguidehome.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46:how-to-install-mspaint-microsoft-paint-under-ubuntu-linux-using-wine&catid=14:x-window-system-graphical-user-interface-startx&Itemid=3&lang=en | 17:09 |
arrrghhh | that's for ubuntu | 17:09 |
arrrghhh | android doesn't use X | 17:09 |
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arrrghhh | so don't confuse nntb | 17:09 |
nntb | oh.... | 17:09 |
arrrghhh | Android uses the linux kernel | 17:09 |
arrrghhh | but android is not linux | 17:09 |
arrrghhh | just like ubuntu uses the linux kernel, but ubuntu is not linux. | 17:09 |
nntb | i see so i would need x on my android first | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | yes | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | perhaps with rhodbuntu you could do that. | 17:10 |
nntb | i thought the android os was x | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | i don't know why you would want to lol | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | why? | 17:10 |
nntb | because i want to doolde in ms paint | 17:10 |
nntb | while on speeker phone | 17:10 |
stinebd | don't we all | 17:10 |
nntb | i know right? | 17:11 |
nntb | that and i loved the orignal ms paint | 17:11 |
nntb | its like nistalgia city | 17:11 |
arrrghhh | LMAO stine. | 17:11 |
arrrghhh | facetiousness is so lost in text. | 17:11 |
arrrghhh | seriously tho there isn't an android app for doodling? | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | i almost typed drooling HAHA | 17:12 |
nntb | but its not MSPAINT.EXE | 17:12 |
nntb | actually if i could emulate snes and do mario paint with the touch screen | 17:12 |
nntb | id be ok with that also | 17:12 |
nntb | but i like mspaint a bit more | 17:13 |
arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt. | 17:13 |
arrrghhh | i have actual work to do tho. | 17:13 |
nntb | sorry >.<;; | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | lol np | 17:14 |
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arrrghhh | your facination with mspaint is disturbing tho :P | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | oh god | 17:14 |
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nntb | its better then being all | 17:15 |
nntb | are there any girls here? | 17:15 |
nntb | kind of thing | 17:15 |
nntb | it would be nice if i could put a virtualized small desktop window that had HTC HOME 2 running on it | 17:16 |
nntb | so i could get the htc clock and waether on my android | 17:16 |
hamagc | stinebd: no menu button for me | 17:17 |
hamagc | home brings me home, and end call brings me home | 17:17 |
stinebd | hamagc: press on dpad | 17:17 |
hamagc | power acts as power, back as back | 17:17 |
hamagc | ohhh | 17:17 |
nntb | xdandroid is like that Phone is phone windows is menu back is back call end is screen off. power is home menu | 17:17 |
hamagc | well to stop redundancy i guess we should just set end call to do nothing? | 17:18 |
nntb | call me | 17:18 |
stinebd | hamagc: noooo | 17:18 |
stinebd | end call ends call | 17:18 |
stinebd | when in call | 17:18 |
hamagc | and when not in call? | 17:18 |
stinebd | not sure what it does by default, probably sleep | 17:19 |
stinebd | but who cares | 17:19 |
hamagc | it's definable in spare parts | 17:19 |
nntb | if you hold call end it asks to power down | 17:19 |
nntb | or ariplain mode | 17:19 |
stinebd | yes but we can't define a default | 17:19 |
stinebd | i looked into it | 17:19 |
hamagc | oh well then | 17:19 |
nntb | if i hit airplaine mode i wonder if i can throw my phone and it will fly | 17:19 |
stinebd | gotta keep it mapped to end call though | 17:19 |
hamagc | i like it! | 17:19 |
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stinebd | the changes are just for raph users, so i might push them as they are without warning to the peons | 17:20 |
stinebd | let them freak out on the forums for a few days | 17:21 |
hamagc | haah that'll be meanly funny | 17:21 |
nntb | whats msm7k | 17:23 |
hamagc | processor | 17:23 |
nntb | oh when android is like 100% awsome can it be flashed to the phone replacing the native os | 17:23 |
hamagc | once it's 100% yes it can | 17:24 |
hamagc | that is the eventual goal | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | you make support a breeze stinebd | 17:24 |
hamagc | hopefully by the time it comes to that, we're not like 10 years behind lol | 17:24 |
stinebd | hamagc: you use physkeyboard=raph? | 17:25 |
hamagc | let me look | 17:25 |
nntb | oh which device works best for xdandroid? like if i bought a replacment phone | 17:25 |
nntb | i cant buy native andorid phones becuase... im on sero | 17:25 |
hamagc | stinebd: yes i do | 17:25 |
stinebd | hamagc: great, thanks | 17:26 |
stinebd | guess i should make a forums post | 17:26 |
stinebd | and twitter | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | nntb, sero users can get android devices now. | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | as of 10/1/10 | 17:27 |
hamagc | mhmm | 17:27 |
nntb | but i have to pay more | 17:27 |
nntb | right? | 17:27 |
hamagc | $10 | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | yea it's only $10 i think. | 17:27 |
nntb | wait | 17:27 |
hamagc | $10/mo for 3g android, $20/mo for 4g android | 17:27 |
nntb | i can get a evo on my account | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | does that only apply to 4g? | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | ah $20 for 4g. | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | you can | 17:27 |
hamagc | $10 for sero premium (android) and $10 for 4g | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | if you want to pony up an extra $20/mo :P | 17:28 |
nntb | can i have only 3g with it | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | get a 3g device. | 17:28 |
nntb | ok | 17:28 |
nntb | whats a good 3g device? | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | dunno. | 17:28 |
nntb | with a 1gighrz snapdragon | 17:28 |
hamagc | $40/mo for a regular android device still sounds better than anything att or tmo or verizon offer | 17:28 |
hamagc | nntb: currently nothing | 17:28 |
nntb | wait wont a fast proceser eat my batery? | 17:28 |
hamagc | best is moment/transform at 800mhz | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | like butter | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | om nom | 17:29 |
hamagc | oh and intercept | 17:29 |
hamagc | 800mhz too | 17:29 |
stinebd | do you regularly ingest butter alone? | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | mostly. | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | my gf likes it tho. | 17:29 |
nntb | butter rocks | 17:29 |
nntb | kinky | 17:29 |
hamagc | butter her... n/m lol | 17:29 |
nntb | ever pour melted butter on chocolate icecream? | 17:29 |
nntb | its good | 17:29 |
nntb | sprinkle suger | 17:30 |
nntb | yum yum | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | i think i should back away from this room slowly... | 17:31 |
hamagc | lol it's slowly becoming a porn for the overweight | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | that was pretty quick if you ask me :P | 17:31 |
hamagc | lol ya huh | 17:32 |
stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8644648&postcount=2995 | 17:38 |
stinebd | i wonder if i made it noticeable enough | 17:38 |
stinebd | better add DIAM in there too | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | i don't think the font is big enough | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | :P | 17:42 |
hamagc | frx02 is official? | 17:46 |
stinebd | no | 17:46 |
hamagc | heh i need to get on the forum more often apparently | 17:46 |
stinebd | SOMEONE decided to spread the word | 17:46 |
TheDeadCPU | IT WASN'T ME | 17:46 |
hamagc | lol damn babijoee | 17:46 |
stinebd | and 244GB later i'm nervously watching my bandwidth consumption | 17:47 |
hamagc | arrrghhh: make sure babijoee adds stinebd's message to the first page | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | <------------- i'm the d!ck. | 17:47 |
hamagc | i'm telling you, for testing we need to use the group section on the forum. | 17:47 |
hamagc | we can post files there that can't be let into the wild until we're ready | 17:47 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, YOU PENIS! | 17:48 |
hamagc | which means no sudden 244gb of downloading a test system | 17:48 |
hamagc | 10.10.10 | 17:48 |
hamagc | XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX02 NEW | 17:48 |
hamagc | 10.10.10 | 17:48 |
hamagc | XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX02 NEW | 17:48 |
hamagc | well is that isn't official... | 17:48 |
hamagc | lol on 10/10/10 | 17:49 |
hamagc | arrrghhh: can we get babijoee to ditch the cabs posted on the thread? | 17:49 |
hamagc | lol the last update to the cab was 9/3 | 17:50 |
stinebd | the cabs are the greatest thing ever | 17:50 |
hamagc | i know! arrrghhh just loves them! | 17:51 |
hamagc | he heart cabs | 17:51 |
TheDeadCPU | stinebd, so these updated keymap thing for the Raphael.. Are they active in the latest rootfs? | 17:51 |
stinebd | the one that i didn't push yet? | 17:52 |
hamagc | coming soon | 17:52 |
hamagc | lol | 17:52 |
stinebd | TheDeadCPU: are you excited for it? | 17:52 |
xdandroid | New rootfs available (20101015-4bfd68c) at: http://is.gd/g3K36 -- Changes at: http://is.gd/g3K32 | 17:53 |
stinebd | oh god | 17:53 |
stinebd | armageddon | 17:53 |
xdandroid | stinebd@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 30 from ASSIGNED to RESOLVED FIXED. | 17:54 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=30 major, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, End Key (short press) doesn't function | 17:54 |
Aks | where's the kernel? | 17:55 |
hamagc | wooT! | 17:55 |
hamagc | no kernel | 17:55 |
hamagc | new rootfs | 17:55 |
TheDeadCPU | stinebd, Yes. I'm very excited. | 17:57 |
stinebd | it is revolutionary | 17:57 |
stinebd | it will change the way we use our phones | 17:58 |
TheDeadCPU | You're not wearing a turtleneck are you? | 17:58 |
stinebd | AND jeans | 17:58 |
TheDeadCPU | OH MY GOD | 17:58 |
stinebd | and i took my contacts out and put on glasses | 17:59 |
stinebd | and shaved my hairline back | 17:59 |
TheDeadCPU | oh god | 17:59 |
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Aks | ok, link to rotfs file ? | 17:59 |
TheDeadCPU | ........... | 17:59 |
TheDeadCPU | where do you think it is? | 17:59 |
TheDeadCPU | The latest rootfs is always http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-latest.zip | 18:00 |
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Aks | oh ok ... so its a std release :) | 18:02 |
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hamagc | we're releasing std's now?!? | 18:14 |
stinebd | hooray syphilis! | 18:15 |
TheDeadCPU | Seems like it. | 18:15 |
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Reidar | i downloaded XDAndroid 2.1 with HTC Sense for Blackstone. Then my screens says "HTC" , turns black and wont work | 18:54 |
Reidar | What i do? | 18:54 |
stinebd | contact whoever made that rom. it wasn't the xdandroid project. best to post in the rom's thread | 18:58 |
Reidar | ok | 18:58 |
Reidar | Oshi*. it wasnt XDANDORID | 18:59 |
Reidar | @@@ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021 | 18:59 |
Reidar | I used XDAndroids 2,1 and 2,2. But i stopped using them because i really missed HTC SENSE :/ | 19:00 |
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arrrghhh | screw sense. | 19:33 |
* arrrghhh slaps some sense into Android | 19:33 | |
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arrrghhh | damnit. | 20:19 |
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stinebd | sure enough, they don't like hardware auto brightness | 21:16 |
stinebd | luckily it looks like we can fake it | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | 'they'? | 21:16 |
stinebd | goog | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | ah | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | dicks. | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | damnit the internet is creepy. | 21:24 |
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stinebd | uh | 21:33 |
stinebd | /** values returned by the accelerometer in various locations in the universe. | 21:33 |
stinebd | * all values are in SI units (m/s^2) */ | 21:33 |
stinebd | public static final float GRAVITY_SUN = 275.0f; | 21:33 |
stinebd | just in case you need to go landscape while standing on the sun? | 21:33 |
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arrrghhh | ya never know. | 21:36 |
stinebd | that might trip the battery temperature safety | 21:36 |
arrrghhh | it happened to me last week in fact | 21:36 |
xdandroid | stinebd@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 8 from NEW to RESOLVED LATER. | 21:43 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8 minor, Low, ---, developers, RESOLVED LATER, Gallery3D crashes in landscape mode | 21:43 |
stinebd | teehee | 21:44 |
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stinebd | arrrghhh: any idea if bug 5 is still valid for anybody? | 21:48 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5 blocker, Highest, ---, developers, NEW, Microphone not working during incoming call. | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | good question... | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | i'll have to talk to the whiners :P | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | i guess i'll just update the bug... it should email 'em all | 21:57 |
xdandroid | stinebd@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 22 from NEW to RESOLVED LATER. | 22:00 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22 minor, Low, ---, developers, RESOLVED LATER, Picasaweb sync unavailable (Gallery3D) | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | bug 8 | 22:01 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8 minor, Low, ---, developers, RESOLVED LATER, Gallery3D crashes in landscape mode | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | ah | 22:02 |
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