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| gnabbr | hey there | 07:38 |
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| gnabbr | how long can the first boot at most take? | 08:05 |
| gnabbr | my htc touch pro is showing me the intro with this flying green things for about 1h now | 08:06 |
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| gnabbr | wiki says 5-10mins | 08:06 |
| gnabbr | noone? | 08:09 |
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| rrew | uhh 1h i a long time, soft reset it and boot again | 08:14 |
| rrew | if that doesnt work reformat your sd | 08:14 |
| gnabbr | soft reset = take battery out... right? | 08:16 |
| rrew | you have the red button under the battery cover, press that | 08:16 |
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| gnabbr | can't find it... but take the battery out will have the same effekt.. right? | 08:18 |
| gnabbr | another question: xdandroid always has to be started through windows mobile... so nothing will be flashed or whatever to the phone-rom, right? | 08:19 |
| babijoee | not at this stage | 08:19 |
| rrew | winmo will not be touched | 08:19 |
| babijoee | they are working on nand for rhodium | 08:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | New gfx card<3 | 08:24 |
| babijoee | adreno205? | 08:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | No. | 08:25 |
| babijoee | ooo | 08:25 |
| babijoee | what? | 08:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | RV870 afaik | 08:25 |
| babijoee | lol | 08:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's on my gaming rig lol | 08:26 |
| babijoee | ahhh | 08:26 |
| babijoee | nice | 08:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | So it's an XFX Radeon HD5870 1GB | 08:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | Unboxing in editing atm | 08:26 |
| babijoee | oooo nice | 08:26 |
| babijoee | send me link :) | 08:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | Will do when I've uploaded ;) | 08:27 |
| babijoee | thanks :) | 08:27 |
| babijoee | always love your vids | 08:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 08:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | You like laughing at my English? :( | 08:28 |
| babijoee | i actually might do an unboxing vid of new phone | 08:28 |
| babijoee | nah | 08:28 |
| babijoee | you're entertaining | 08:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | yay | 08:28 |
| babijoee | i dunno know what to get yet though | 08:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Desire Z. | 08:29 |
| babijoee | does it have adreno205 or 210? | 08:30 |
| rrew | 205 | 08:30 |
| babijoee | awww | 08:30 |
| rrew | as far as i know | 08:30 |
| babijoee | ah k | 08:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | But the HW kayboard is so.. | 08:30 |
| babijoee | i prefer nvidia actually :p | 08:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | HW KEYBOARD. | 08:30 |
| babijoee | i want a tegra2 device | 08:31 |
| babijoee | :p | 08:31 |
| rrew | :P | 08:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | nVidia is ok.. If you pay the extremly high price for an OK card. | 08:31 |
| babijoee | yeah they're expensive but worth it | 08:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | Seing as a 10'000nok nVidia card runs the same benchmarks as a 3'000 nok ATI card.. | 08:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | 10'000 nok is about $2000 USD. | 08:32 |
| babijoee | in that case get the ATI ofcourse :p | 08:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea iknow :P | 08:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | That's why I has ATI | 08:32 |
| babijoee | lol | 08:33 |
| babijoee | i had many ATI graphic cards in the past | 08:33 |
| babijoee | but was never satisfied with them | 08:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've had a few nVidia | 08:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | All trouble. | 08:34 |
| babijoee | lol | 08:34 |
| babijoee | i guess we're just complete oposites :p | 08:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | Same with Intel. | 08:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | Intel is shit. | 08:34 |
| babijoee | lol | 08:34 |
| rrew | i have still ati 9xxx series on my desktop :P | 08:35 |
| rrew | TheDeadCPU, amd/ati fan :P? | 08:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | YES. | 08:37 |
| babijoee | when is the desire z avaliable? | 08:42 |
| babijoee | i plan on geting a new phone start of next year | 08:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | October. | 08:43 |
| babijoee | or wait for googles 2nd phone | 08:43 |
| babijoee | hopefully threepio exists | 08:43 |
| babijoee | :p | 08:43 |
| rrew | googles 2nd phone? n2 or something else? | 08:43 |
| babijoee | nah | 08:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | There wont be a new Nexus. | 08:44 |
| babijoee | its called threepio | 08:44 |
| rrew | yeah i know that | 08:44 |
| babijoee | well thats what they say | 08:44 |
| rrew | :o | 08:44 |
| babijoee | i hope they do have something up their sleeve as n1 can be so much better | 08:44 |
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| stinebd | threepio was a joke by bbspot | 08:45 |
| babijoee | was it :( | 08:45 |
| compromis909 | heyy guys, i need some help for myyinstallation on the sd card | 08:45 |
| rrew | tell us | 08:45 |
| babijoee | so stinebd | 08:45 |
| rrew | whats the problem | 08:45 |
| babijoee | whens the release :) | 08:45 |
| stinebd | soon | 08:46 |
| stinebd | perhaps today | 08:46 |
| babijoee | :) | 08:46 |
| rrew | stinebd, yaay :) | 08:46 |
| compromis909 | well, I extracted the file and fot an ext2 file, but i downloaded the one for fat32... | 08:46 |
| babijoee | its 11pm here | 08:46 |
| stinebd | well then tomorrow | 08:46 |
| gnabbr | damn, the same again, it's now booting for about 15mins | 08:47 |
| rrew | compromis909, which phone? | 08:47 |
| gnabbr | i think, i saw a few errors on booting linux... is there something i have to watch for? i just did it after the install-guide in wiki | 08:47 |
| rrew | the ext2 file is the system image containing android | 08:48 |
| babijoee | stinebd: do i need a new gapps package? | 08:48 |
| stinebd | yes, but you'll be getting a signed release system image from me anyway | 08:48 |
| babijoee | ah ok | 08:48 |
| compromis909 | oops sory, it a raphael GSM latest build downloaded @rrew | 08:48 |
| babijoee | kool | 08:48 |
| stinebd | http://mirror.kanged.net/gapps/gapps-mdpi-tiny-20100816-signed.zip | 08:48 |
| stinebd | that's our current gapps package | 08:48 |
| babijoee | kk thanks | 08:49 |
| rrew | compromis909, what do you want to do, update the system image? | 08:49 |
| stinebd | i'm going to create a manifest with frozen commit IDs for the release too | 08:50 |
| compromis909 | rrew, plain installation, | 08:50 |
| babijoee | incremential updates? | 08:50 |
| compromis909 | there ought to be some folders and a startupconfig, do I have to create them by myself? | 08:51 |
| stinebd | we'll have the release set up for incremental updates, but we still have no android program or infrastructure to do them | 08:51 |
| rrew | compromis909, download the latest bundle packgage | 08:51 |
| babijoee | ah | 08:51 |
| stinebd | i have to run, my car has a doctor appointment | 08:52 |
| babijoee | lol | 08:52 |
| babijoee | cya | 08:52 |
| stinebd | don't stay up late waiting for me | 08:52 |
| babijoee | nah i wont | 08:52 |
| babijoee | :p | 08:52 |
| rrew | compromis909, http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z | 08:52 |
| compromis909 | well i did just a few mins ago the XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.7z | 08:52 |
| rrew | compromis909, this contains only the updated system image | 08:53 |
| compromis909 | I see, my bad! thanx | 08:53 |
| rrew | install the bundle, copy/overwrite the new system.ext2 over the old one, update kernel, rootfs, initrd | 08:54 |
| gnabbr | a little question: i can't find an install-package for 2.2 in the repository | 09:02 |
| gnabbr | there's just a version with a 7z that contains the .ext2 | 09:03 |
| gnabbr | and one that's just the .ext2 | 09:03 |
| gnabbr | but not with install-package like 2.1 | 09:03 |
| gnabbr | so, my question, where do i find this? | 09:03 |
| rrew | gnabbr, http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z | 09:03 |
| rrew | this contains all you need | 09:03 |
| rrew | after that update system.ext2, kernel, rootfs, initrd | 09:03 |
| babijoee | xdandroid: stinebd just shoot me a pm of the link and i'll update asap :) | 09:04 |
| babijoee | xdandroid: later tell stinebd just shoot me a pm of the link and i'll update asap :) | 09:04 |
| xdandroid | babijoee: The operation succeeded. | 09:04 |
| gnabbr | i don't know how to update this... just trying to install it for the first time... and with 2.1 it bootet for about 1h with no reaction | 09:04 |
| rrew | download the files from the link i gave you before | 09:05 |
| gnabbr | downloading... | 09:05 |
| rrew | extract all into the root of your sd | 09:05 |
| gnabbr | done | 09:06 |
| rrew | now download this http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.7z | 09:07 |
| rrew | extract it contains | 09:07 |
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| rrew | and rename blabla.ext2 to just system.ext2 and replace it with the one in the root of sd | 09:07 |
| rrew | done? | 09:09 |
| gnabbr | jap, done | 09:09 |
| rrew | upated kernel | 09:09 |
| rrew | update* | 09:10 |
| rrew | now | 09:10 |
| gnabbr | which one is the kernel and where do i get it? | 09:10 |
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| rrew | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 09:11 |
| gnabbr | the one on the top? | 09:11 |
| rrew | yep | 09:11 |
| rrew | alright now when you download this extract it and rename zImage_blabla to just zImage | 09:12 |
| rrew | dont rename modules!!! | 09:12 |
| gnabbr | ok, so just remove the old one? | 09:12 |
| rrew | remove the old zimage+ modules on yours sd | 09:12 |
| rrew | and place the new once into sd | 09:13 |
| gnabbr | done | 09:13 |
| rrew | boot it now | 09:13 |
| gnabbr | ok, i'll try | 09:13 |
| gnabbr | just an idea, before i tried it with 2.1, didn't work, loaded for about 1h | 09:14 |
| rrew | we will update rootfs and initrd if android boots correctly | 09:14 |
| gnabbr | i didn't format the sd before in fat32 | 09:14 |
| gnabbr | it was fat | 09:14 |
| gnabbr | maybe this was the fault? | 09:14 |
| rrew | yeah | 09:15 |
| gnabbr | and, wait a min... i don't have to move the files into the "andboot"-folder? | 09:15 |
| babijoee | its optional | 09:15 |
| gnabbr | ok | 09:15 |
| rrew | if it doesnt boot, format it in fat32 and try again | 09:16 |
| rrew | with same setup | 09:16 |
| gnabbr | i already formated now in fat32 | 09:16 |
| gnabbr | now booting linux | 09:17 |
| rrew | kk | 09:17 |
| babijoee | gnabbr i'll be readying new package | 09:17 |
| babijoee | tommorow | 09:17 |
| babijoee | just to let you know | 09:17 |
| gnabbr | ah ok | 09:17 |
| gnabbr | thx | 09:17 |
| babijoee | so all you'll need to do is grab that | 09:17 |
| gnabbr | yeah now i already did it this way | 09:17 |
| gnabbr | so... | 09:17 |
| babijoee | doesnt matter | 09:18 |
| rrew | babijoee, any major fixes except the camera userland fix in the new build? | 09:18 |
| babijoee | just get it running | 09:18 |
| babijoee | added languages | 09:18 |
| babijoee | and fixes to gallery 3d | 09:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | camera? | 09:19 |
| babijoee | camera is now prepared for userland | 09:19 |
| babijoee | we need kernel fix | 09:19 |
| gnabbr | ok, now again this green thingiiies and the xdandroid-title | 09:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | i can has camera soon? | 09:19 |
| gnabbr | let's hope this time it works :P | 09:19 |
| rrew | :P | 09:19 |
| rrew | gnabbr, wait for 5-20mins | 09:19 |
| babijoee | gnabbr it should only take 5 min max | 09:20 |
| gnabbr | ok | 09:20 |
| babijoee | for me if nothing happens | 09:20 |
| babijoee | keep pressing the power button | 09:20 |
| babijoee | otherwise reboot it and it should load within 1 minute | 09:20 |
| babijoee | bbl guys | 09:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | :( | 09:21 |
| rrew | bye | 09:21 |
| gnabbr | bey | 09:21 |
| rrew | do you guys get a notification when you plug in the headset? | 09:24 |
| gnabbr | still booting... | 09:25 |
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| gnabbr | and still booting... any idea? | 09:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | What device btw? | 09:31 |
| gnabbr | htc raph | 09:31 |
| rrew | hmm, give me what your sd contains ( of android files ) | 09:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | ah | 09:31 |
| gnabbr | androidapps | 09:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | you could try my Video tutorial | 09:32 |
| gnabbr | conf, media, "startup config", haret.exe, initrd.gz, modules, rootfs.img, startup.txt, system.ext2 and zImage | 09:32 |
| gnabbr | doesn't look too bad, right? | 09:33 |
| rrew | did you renamed modules maybe? | 09:33 |
| gnabbr | nope | 09:33 |
| rrew | its all configured perfectly | 09:33 |
| gnabbr | modules-2.6.27.46-01165-gfc1639f.tar.gz | 09:33 |
| rrew | kk | 09:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | good | 09:33 |
| gnabbr | but still these green thingies (what are they, btw?) flying over the screen | 09:34 |
| rrew | the animation screen | 09:34 |
| rrew | droids :p | 09:34 |
| gnabbr | yeah i know what it is, but i wonder what this green things | 09:34 |
| gnabbr | hm, ok :P | 09:34 |
| rrew | do you have another sd card to try on? | 09:35 |
| gnabbr | with 4gigs of data to backup, jep :p | 09:35 |
| gnabbr | but i never had any problems with this one, its an 1gb microsd from kingston | 09:36 |
| gnabbr | fat32-formated (quick-format) | 09:36 |
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| rrew | its weird :s | 09:36 |
| gnabbr | it doesn't matter which wm-rom is on it, right? | 09:36 |
| rrew | hmm, boot-looping animation is caused by rootfs, right? try updating rootfs | 09:37 |
| rrew | doesnt metter | 09:37 |
| gnabbr | k | 09:37 |
| rrew | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ | 09:37 |
| gnabbr | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20100828-c29a486.zip | 09:37 |
| gnabbr | ok | 09:37 |
| rrew | yep that one | 09:38 |
| rrew | and update initramfs http://files.xdandroid.com/initramfs/ | 09:38 |
| gnabbr | do i have to reset the files now? because theres more now, like "ts-calibration" and other stuff | 09:39 |
| rrew | anyway if it doesnt work, try with another sd if you want :P, afk now | 09:39 |
| rrew | no | 09:39 |
| rrew | just delete data.img | 09:39 |
| gnabbr | ok | 09:39 |
| gnabbr | damn, still booting wm :P | 09:40 |
| gnabbr | next try, wish me luck | 09:40 |
| gnabbr | ok, now loading android... see u in 5mins | 09:42 |
| gnabbr | still booting.. | 09:47 |
| babijoee | did you try mashing power button :p | 09:48 |
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| gnabbr | just press on it ? | 09:48 |
| babijoee | yeah | 09:49 |
| babijoee | keep pressing power button | 09:49 |
| gnabbr | pressed now for 15s, no reaction | 09:49 |
| babijoee | hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 09:49 |
| babijoee | well if you see boot-animation | 09:49 |
| babijoee | then you've done every correct | 09:49 |
| babijoee | dunno why you cant get past it though | 09:49 |
| gnabbr | i see the boot-animation since the first try | 09:49 |
| gnabbr | and every time it seems like an endless-loop | 09:50 |
| babijoee | hrmmmm | 09:50 |
| babijoee | could be your sdcard | 09:50 |
| babijoee | do you have another one ? | 09:50 |
| gnabbr | yes | 09:50 |
| gnabbr | i'll backup some files (4gb...) and try it | 09:50 |
| gnabbr | or how much space is needed for xdandroid to run properly? | 09:51 |
| gnabbr | i got 100mb free | 09:51 |
| babijoee | doesnt require much | 09:51 |
| babijoee | probally 300mb | 09:51 |
| gnabbr | ok | 09:51 |
| babijoee | 350mb to be safe | 09:51 |
| gnabbr | 359 :P | 09:53 |
| gnabbr | so now copying to andboot (no changes required, right?) | 09:53 |
| babijoee | nope | 09:54 |
| babijoee | well | 09:54 |
| babijoee | you'll need to modfiy startup | 09:54 |
| babijoee | its in my 4th post | 09:54 |
| babijoee | andboot_relpath=andboot | 09:54 |
| babijoee | dunno if thats right | 09:54 |
| gnabbr | i thinks its just "relpath=andboot" | 09:54 |
| gnabbr | but i tried the first time, without modifying anything in the startup.txt | 09:55 |
| gnabbr | and still it found it and started into the endless animation | 09:55 |
| gnabbr | i don't understand that anyway, becaus, the startup.txt IS in the folder andboot, so how does it find that? i guess root and "andboot" are the standard-folders that are searched | 09:56 |
| babijoee | rel_path=xdandroid | 09:56 |
| babijoee | opps | 09:57 |
| babijoee | yeah | 09:57 |
| babijoee | well it shouldnt work | 09:57 |
| gnabbr | ? | 09:57 |
| babijoee | you'll need to have rel_path=anboot for it to work in the andboot folder | 09:58 |
| gnabbr | and where does the startup.txt goes? | 09:58 |
| babijoee | anboot | 09:58 |
| babijoee | andboot* | 09:58 |
| gnabbr | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 09:59 |
| babijoee | TheDeadCPU has a great vid tutorial | 09:59 |
| gnabbr | here it doesn't say ANYTHING about modifying startup.txt, so maybe u should point to this matter in the guide, if it is this way | 09:59 |
| babijoee | well | 10:00 |
| babijoee | i'm telling you directly :) | 10:00 |
| babijoee | anyways i'll update | 10:01 |
| babijoee | thanks for pointing that out | 10:01 |
| gnabbr | maybe you could put this parameter as default into all these startup.txt's in the startup config folder | 10:02 |
| gnabbr | hmm, "failed to alocate the storage | 10:05 |
| gnabbr | " | 10:05 |
| gnabbr | 350mb seems to less | 10:05 |
| babijoee | ah k | 10:05 |
| babijoee | try 450 :p | 10:05 |
| babijoee | gnabbr: guess i could | 10:06 |
| gnabbr | i'll just wipe the hole card | 10:06 |
| gnabbr | i'm at work, and now i'm taking a break to smoke a cigarette, because i need to wait for the file operation :P, hmm, don't say that to my boss | 10:07 |
| gnabbr | jep, i should be working more :P | 10:07 |
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| gnabbr | ok, final try i hope | 10:21 |
| gnabbr | boot animation again... | 10:24 |
| gnabbr | YES :D | 10:26 |
| gnabbr | it worked | 10:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | yay | 10:27 |
| gnabbr | hm, now i'm having a working android but don't know how to use it xD | 10:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Explore it! :D | 10:28 |
| gnabbr | i will :D | 10:29 |
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| gnabbr | thx a lot | 10:30 |
| gnabbr | to babijoee and rrew for having patience with me ^^ | 10:30 |
| gnabbr | and babijoee, it'd be nice if u'd change the startup-txt's and point out to this in the install-page in the wiki | 10:31 |
| gnabbr | thx | 10:31 |
| gnabbr | hey | 10:35 |
| gnabbr | is it possible to connect the phone to the computeR' | 10:35 |
| gnabbr | ? | 10:35 |
| Matzemink | usb mass storage isn't supported yet | 10:39 |
| gnabbr | too bad | 10:42 |
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| ps | i'm trying to run psfreedom on xdandroid | 11:12 |
| ps | anyone experience with that in here? | 11:12 |
| ps | * Extract the archive on your sdcard (replace zImage/modules) * Be sure that Actice Sync mode is enabled in Windows Mobile * Run Haret with USB connected to your PC | 11:12 |
| ps | that's what the wiki-page (http://www.psfreedom.com/wiki/HTC_Raphael) says | 11:13 |
| ps | the problem, after deleting the original modules | 11:13 |
| ps | it doesn't work properly... it sais, sry, but "system" doesn't work properly or smth like that | 11:14 |
| ps | and i just see the screen that sais no last used programs | 11:14 |
| stinebd | ps: please try their irc channel at #psfreedom - we don't support it | 11:14 |
| ps | thx | 11:14 |
| ps | join #psfreedom | 11:15 |
| ps | hmm | 11:15 |
| ps | forgot sth ^^ | 11:15 |
| pichik | Is there any one who has worked on camera in android | 11:16 |
| stinebd | bzo is currently doing the camera work | 11:17 |
| pichik | ohh.. thanks stinebd | 11:17 |
| pichik | is he currently in chat room | 11:17 |
| rrew | nope | 11:23 |
| pichik | okay | 11:23 |
| pichik | any other guys | 11:23 |
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| QAH | Hello everyone! I have a question. Can I use Google's Android developer tools to develop apps for XDAndroid? When I try to connect to the phone using adb to install an application file, it doesn't seem to recognize the phone. I guess maybe I need to install the Android drivers. | 11:38 |
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| hamagc | good morning guys | 11:51 |
| babijoee | hello hamagc | 11:51 |
| hamagc | whats the good word today babijoee? | 11:51 |
| stinebd | hold on to your butts | 11:51 |
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| * hamagc is hold his butts | 11:52 | |
| babijoee | wat time is it for you stinebd | 11:53 |
| stinebd | 11:53am | 11:53 |
| babijoee | ooo | 11:54 |
| babijoee | well i'm still up | 11:55 |
| babijoee | your system ready yet? | 11:56 |
| stinebd | we have boot make | 11:56 |
| stinebd | calm the babijoee, i have just returned from the car doctor not too long ago | 11:56 |
| babijoee | nps | 11:56 |
| babijoee | i'm calm | 11:57 |
| babijoee | :p | 11:57 |
| hamagc | lol how did the doc go? pass smog? | 11:57 |
| stinebd | ooh | 11:57 |
| stinebd | Build Number FRX01 | 11:57 |
| babijoee | :) | 11:58 |
| stinebd | uploading image now | 11:58 |
| babijoee | coolies | 11:59 |
| babijoee | did you remove the gapps? | 11:59 |
| stinebd | err no? | 11:59 |
| babijoee | ok | 12:00 |
| stinebd | why would i remove gapps? | 12:00 |
| hamagc | why are people talking about unsquashing our system? we're not squashed! | 12:00 |
| babijoee | just reading your post :p | 12:00 |
| stinebd | ohh | 12:00 |
| stinebd | that was just amazonmp3 and twitter | 12:00 |
| stinebd | both of which are gone from the new gapps package anyway | 12:00 |
| babijoee | ah yeah | 12:00 |
| hamagc | and fn key works. people are weird | 12:01 |
| babijoee | wekk | 12:01 |
| babijoee | well netu | 12:01 |
| stinebd | manifest pushed | 12:01 |
| babijoee | stinebd: i know heaps of people are going to ask so could you possibly give a full list of change :) | 12:03 |
| stinebd | working on it | 12:03 |
| babijoee | kk | 12:03 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna give you a list of changes since the 29 july release | 12:06 |
| babijoee | k | 12:08 |
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| hamagc | heya bzo | 12:19 |
| bzo | hey | 12:19 |
| hamagc | how goes it | 12:20 |
| bzo | I think stinebd opened up a can of worms with his camera 3d finding yesterday | 12:20 |
| stinebd | ? | 12:20 |
| hamagc | ? | 12:20 |
| hamagc | a good can of worms? | 12:20 |
| bzo | looks like the camera app was written for a gpu with more memory | 12:20 |
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| bzo | with my partially working kernel camera driver the camera app tries to get a bunch of gpu buffers | 12:21 |
| bzo | it runs out | 12:21 |
| bzo | then craps out | 12:21 |
| hamagc | can you use a camera app from a device with less memory? | 12:21 |
| bzo | (partially working = not working) | 12:21 |
| hamagc | like from the touch or something? | 12:21 |
| stinebd | bzo: craps out how? SIGBUS or OOM? | 12:22 |
| bzo | I dunno, haven't looked much into it yet | 12:22 |
| bzo | OOM | 12:22 |
| stinebd | jack up the available memory in libgralloc | 12:22 |
| stinebd | if it then does SIGBUS, we're screwed | 12:22 |
| bzo | perhaps it is possible, but at the moment it seems to be hard coded to use a 7mb+8mb gpu config | 12:22 |
| stinebd | it being camera? | 12:23 |
| bzo | wince uses 2mb+13mb I think, and someone tried, but it doesn't work on android | 12:23 |
| bzo | it=android graphics libs | 12:23 |
| stinebd | we can change gralloc | 12:23 |
| bzo | yeah, definately should look into it. I just don't know how easy it is to change | 12:24 |
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| jjpeasl | jesus whats up | 12:29 |
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| zycho | so ein scheißwetter | 12:53 |
| zycho | sry - wrong tab | 12:53 |
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| stinebd | heh | 13:00 |
| stinebd | the weather here is nice | 13:00 |
| |Jeroen| | its crapyt weather here | 13:00 |
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| JesusFreak316 | jjpeasl: You still here? | 13:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Went out for a Taco Bell run. :P | 13:05 |
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| JesusFreak316_ | jjpeasl: I'm here now... | 13:17 |
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| hamagc | hmm seems new system with old data give me bootloop | 13:47 |
| stinebd | expected behavior | 13:48 |
| stinebd | literally all of the packages have new signatures now | 13:49 |
| stinebd | and apk doesn't really like that | 13:49 |
| hamagc | ok, new data it is | 13:49 |
| stinebd | if you see the logcat, it'll say that there are a bunch of missing permissions which means that the core packages aren't being updated | 13:49 |
| stinebd | that's why i'm moving us over to signed releases. no more test keys | 13:50 |
| hamagc | woot! | 13:51 |
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| zycho | is the battery patch and diamond panel stuff in autobuild kernels? | 14:04 |
| stinebd | no | 14:04 |
| zycho | ok thx | 14:05 |
| hamagc | whats the new ab notification | 14:07 |
| hamagc | haven't seen that one before | 14:07 |
| stinebd | that would be the openwnn ime | 14:07 |
| stinebd | you should switch to the english keyboard | 14:07 |
| stinebd | unfortunately i don't know of a way to do that by default | 14:07 |
| JesusFreak316_ | stinebd: What was the irc program you recommended again? I am sick of pidgin so I tried out Quassel but it sometimes seems a little buggy. | 14:12 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316_: quassel... | 14:12 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Otay. | 14:12 |
| hamagc | lol so i changed the volume on the ringtones and now they won't turn off | 14:12 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Well, I'll just have to figure it out then. | 14:13 |
| hamagc | hmm fc on live wallpaper | 14:23 |
| hamagc | gmail fc | 14:26 |
| hamagc | restarting | 14:26 |
| * JesusFreak316_ doesn't know where his Fuze is so can't test much right now. :P | 14:29 | |
| JesusFreak316_ | identify JesusFreak316 | 14:30 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Can never remember how to change your nick. | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316_ | What is it again? | 14:31 |
| JesusFreak316_ | The _ is bothering me. | 14:31 |
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| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.000 W/ActivityManager( 1262): Permission Denial: Accessing service ComponentInfo{org.clangen.gfx.plasma/org.clangen.gfx.plasma.PlasmaService} from pid=1655, uid=10051 requires android.permission.BIND_WALLPAPER | 14:33 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.010 D/AndroidRuntime( 1655): Shutting down VM | 14:33 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.010 W/dalvikvm( 1655): threadid=1: thread exiting with uncaught exception (group=0x400207f0) | 14:33 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.040 E/AndroidRuntime( 1655): FATAL EXCEPTION: main | 14:33 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.040 E/AndroidRuntime( 1655): java.lang.SecurityException: Not allowed to bind to service Intent { act=android.service.wallpaper.WallpaperService cmp=org.clangen.gfx.plasma/.PlasmaService } | 14:33 |
| hamagc | ? | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316_ | is this the dump for the live wallpaper fc? | 14:33 |
| JesusFreak316_ | dump, logcat, whatever. | 14:34 |
| hamagc | ya | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Just curious; can't understand it anyways. :P | 14:34 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Permission denial is interesing though. | 14:35 |
| JesusFreak316_ | stinebd did say earlier that those have changed. | 14:35 |
| hamagc | ya i'm wondering if it's a signed thing | 14:35 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Ditto. | 14:35 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Yay, figured it out. | 14:36 |
| *** JesusFreak316 is now known as JesusFreak316_ | 14:36 | |
| *** JesusFreak316_ is now known as JesusFreak316 | 14:36 | |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm really starting to like quassel. | 14:36 |
| hamagc | lol quassel was nice but after awhile on my computer it would just stop updating the channel | 14:37 |
| hamagc | i could type and see on the log that it was making it here but my screen would freeze | 14:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | It has quit randomly a few times for me. | 14:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | I think it's user error for me though. | 14:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | I heard there was some way for it to keep updating when closed or something. Is that true? | 14:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | What do you use now? | 14:38 |
| hamagc | i have no idea. are you on linux or win? | 14:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Win currently. | 14:38 |
| hamagc | then i have no idea lol | 14:39 |
| hamagc | but i was using it in windows too | 14:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | linux user? | 14:39 |
| hamagc | at times | 14:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | I just use virtualbox. | 14:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Also have osx and android under there. :P | 14:40 |
| hamagc | lol | 14:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Virtualbox is by far the easiest way to hackintosh. | 14:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Retail snow leopard+EmpireEFi+virtualbox=painless hackintosh. | 14:41 |
| hamagc | ehh i don't use macs anymore | 14:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Me neither. Just figured I'd buy a retail disc just for kicks. Mac hardware isn't powerful enough for me. At least in my price range. | 14:42 |
| hamagc | though i always miss my old mac | 14:42 |
| hamagc | those 33mhz where amazing lol | 14:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ooh, good stuff. What year was that? | 14:42 |
| hamagc | lol 94? | 14:43 |
| hamagc | 92? | 14:43 |
| hamagc | something like that | 14:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | Figured around there; I remember my n64 being around 33 mhz. :) What version was it? OS5? I have no idea. | 14:44 |
| hamagc | lol os6 then 7 | 14:45 |
| hamagc | lol @ babijoee | 14:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | They weren't quite so stable back then, were they? | 14:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why lol @ babijoee? | 14:46 |
| hamagc | excuse my stupidity but does that mean i should delete the data.img that i have now or?????? | 14:47 |
| hamagc | Originally Posted by babijoee | 14:47 |
| hamagc | No need. Just back it up if you want to use an older version. However its mandatory to create a new data.img | 14:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:47 |
| hamagc | he basically said no need to delete the old one but you need a new one | 14:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, true. lol | 14:47 |
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| JesusFreak316 | I personally think we should recommend titanium backup more when we tell people to delete data.img. | 14:48 |
| hamagc | babijoee your funn | 14:48 |
| hamagc | y | 14:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Speak of the devil... | 14:48 |
| babijoee | JesusFreak316: great suggestion | 14:49 |
| babijoee | hamagc: i try :p | 14:50 |
| hamagc | lol | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | haha | 14:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | babijoee, was going to upload the video hours ago.. | 14:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | But the audio fails when I render -.- | 14:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Render? Convert to a different format? | 14:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:50 |
| babijoee | TheDeadCPU: :( | 14:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | That wont change anything | 14:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | Something goes wrong while rendering.. | 14:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | I just mean I don't know what you mean by rendering. | 14:51 |
| babijoee | must be AMD/ATI | 14:51 |
| babijoee | fault | 14:51 |
| babijoee | :p | 14:51 |
| hamagc | lol | 14:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's what you do when you have a project in a video editor and make the playable video.. | 14:51 |
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| TheDeadCPU | babijoee, taha. | 14:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah, that. | 14:52 |
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| TheDeadCPU | I blame Sony. | 14:52 |
| babijoee | ;p | 14:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Been a while since I've done that. | 14:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | NO | 14:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | I blame Steve Jobs. | 14:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Would exporting it as another format help? | 14:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | tried that. | 14:53 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Tried not rendering it to full HD too. | 14:53 |
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| JesusFreak316 | What program? Vegas? | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | But I don't need help | 14:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Windows Movie Maker user here. :P | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | babijoee.. | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | So.. | 14:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Don't edit videos enough to warrant buying a program. | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | phh must fix kernel for camera? | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | You haven't heard of piracy? | 14:54 |
| babijoee | TheDeadCPU: bzo is on it | 14:55 |
| hamagc | kernal needs fix then phh need to commit it to the kernal | 14:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | I have but I'm very against it. My friend got Vegas the same way. | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | ah | 14:55 |
| babijoee | good on ya | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | YARR HARR PIVERITY | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | I wont pay 4000USD for a video editing program lol | 14:56 |
| babijoee | i'm going to try my camera fix | 14:56 |
| babijoee | :p | 14:56 |
| babijoee | doubt it will work | 14:56 |
| hamagc | has kernal for test | 14:56 |
| hamagc | ? | 14:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Actually, I'm kinda psychotic about it. Won't even accept a burnt cd, lol. | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:56 |
| babijoee | @.@ | 14:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Do you really need th $4000 Vegas version? | 14:56 |
| babijoee | hamagc: ummm not yet | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | You scared of the feds JesusFreak316? | 14:56 |
| babijoee | i'll try it myself | 14:56 |
| hamagc | :( | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | I actually do lol | 14:56 |
| hamagc | let me know if you need testers :D | 14:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nah, just morally opposed to it. | 14:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | ah | 14:57 |
| babijoee | hamagc: sure | 14:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | I need the expensive one for HD video. | 14:57 |
| babijoee | hamagc: device? | 14:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, I just always find a free, preferably open source, version of a paid app. But I don't do videos so it could be different there. I do some music stuff so I use audacity for recording and freevst for vst effects. It's no logic pro but it | 14:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | it's good enough for me. | 14:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Darn enter key. | 14:59 |
| hamagc | babijoee: raph800 | 15:09 |
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| babijoee | ok | 15:10 |
| Reefermattness | Hi guys | 15:10 |
| babijoee | hey Reefermattness | 15:10 |
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| hamagc | hey hey | 15:10 |
| babijoee | i will shiz my pants if camera works | 15:10 |
| Reefermattness | Hows the new build running for ya joee? Im about to throw it together right now. :) | 15:11 |
| hamagc | lol me too | 15:11 |
| rrew | hey all | 15:11 |
| babijoee | Reefermattness: so far so good | 15:11 |
| hamagc | 09-16 04:29:39.030 D/OtaStartupReceiver( 1338): Not a CDMA phone, no need to process OTA | 15:11 |
| babijoee | no problems posted yet | 15:11 |
| hamagc | does this mean no ota for us? | 15:12 |
| hamagc | one problem posted | 15:12 |
| babijoee | however hamagc says theres a few fc | 15:12 |
| hamagc | fc on livewallpaper | 15:12 |
| hamagc | had a fc on gmail but a reset fixed that | 15:12 |
| hamagc | but the live wallpaper looks like a permissions thing | 15:13 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.000 W/ActivityManager( 1262): Permission Denial: Accessing service ComponentInfo{org.clangen.gfx.plasma/org.clangen.gfx.plasma.PlasmaService} from pid=1655, uid=10051 requires android.permission.BIND_WALLPAPER | 15:13 |
| hamagc | 09-16 11:30:21.040 E/AndroidRuntime( 1655): java.lang.SecurityException: Not allowed to bind to service Intent { act=android.service.wallpaper.WallpaperService cmp=org.clangen.gfx.plasma/.PlasmaService } | 15:13 |
| hamagc | ok need to run to the store | 15:14 |
| hamagc | be back in a minute | 15:14 |
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| babijoee | hamagc: bah i'll probally needs bzo patch | 15:25 |
| babijoee | bzo: you around? | 15:31 |
| bzo | yes? | 15:31 |
| babijoee | we're you getting GPU not allocating enough mem? | 15:34 |
| bzo | that doesn't happen until after the camera app starts talking to the driver | 15:34 |
| hamagc | hmm | 15:35 |
| hamagc | brb | 15:36 |
| babijoee | i'm also getting E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): startCamera X: /dev/msm_camera/control0 open failed: No such file or directory! | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=21, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=59192, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=15, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=59624, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=14, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=59696, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | D/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): createInstance: X created hardware=0xe230 | 15:36 |
| babijoee | D/Camera ( 1645): app passed NULL surface | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=21, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=52616, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=15, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=53336, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): ioctl error. camfd=-1, type=14, length=4, rc=-1, ctrlCmd.status=52864, Bad file number | 15:36 |
| babijoee | V/camera ( 1645): startPreview | 15:36 |
| babijoee | I/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): initPreview E: preview size=320x240 | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/MemoryHeapBase( 1595): error opening /dev/pmem_adsp: No such file or directory | 15:36 |
| babijoee | E/QualcommCameraHardware( 1595): pmem pool /dev/pmem_adsp error: could not create master heap! | 15:36 |
| babijoee | I/DEBUG ( 1552): *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** | 15:36 |
| bzo | there's really no point to you guys trying the camera yet | 15:37 |
| babijoee | oo | 15:37 |
| bzo | the kernel does not have the drivers yet, and doesn't even know about the camera | 15:37 |
| babijoee | ah | 15:37 |
| babijoee | i c | 15:38 |
| babijoee | i just tried allocating mem for camera | 15:38 |
| bzo | which mem? | 15:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Silly Aussie. :P | 15:38 |
| * JesusFreak316 always thinks it's so cool how many places people involved in XDANDROID hail from. | 15:39 | |
| stinebd | i'm from at least 7 places | 15:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | You mean you've moved several times or 7 seperate parts of your body are from different hometowns? | 15:40 |
| babijoee | CALC_PMEM(pmem_camera, fb, 12*1024*1024);//1MB | 15:40 |
| babijoee | ignore last bit | 15:41 |
| bzo | it will be necessary to adjust pmem, but it is only one of many things to change | 15:41 |
| babijoee | ah k | 15:42 |
| babijoee | thanks for clarifying that | 15:42 |
| babijoee | JesusFreak316: it was worth a try :p ... not really XD | 15:42 |
| stinebd | i mean i exist on multiple planes | 15:42 |
| stinebd | at least one of which may be real | 15:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | stinebd: Ah, planes of existence. Cool stuff | 15:43 |
| stinebd | planes of air | 15:43 |
| babijoee | stinebd: while unziping new gapps package ./unzip-files.sh spits out garbage | 15:43 |
| stinebd | babijoee: that would be removing the nonsense zipfiles comments in the apk | 15:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | babijoee: I do the same thing sometimes; yesterday I went on #meego to ask about porting that until I was shot down by how it targets open gl ES2. :( | 15:44 |
| babijoee | yeah | 15:44 |
| babijoee | meego is something i definitely wanna try | 15:45 |
| stinebd | you haven't yet? | 15:45 |
| stinebd | i | 15:45 |
| stinebd | 've used it on a netbook | 15:45 |
| stinebd | actually i used moblin back in the day too | 15:46 |
| stinebd | not really my thing | 15:46 |
| babijoee | meego is mobile OS right? | 15:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ditto; but that issue is pretty major. There may be a way around it, but I obviously can't do anything. I don't have a netbook and Win7 is fine for my pc; I just want a tri-booting wp7-Android-meego device eventually. :) | 15:46 |
| stinebd | one thing i noticed on the netbook version which i would hope to god is not on the phone version is the huge amount of wasted screen space | 15:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | babijoee: It's a whatever you want OS. | 15:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 15:47 |
| babijoee | ooo | 15:47 |
| babijoee | JesusFreak316: i'm afraid not | 15:47 |
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| JesusFreak316 | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/01/meego-moorestown-powered-tablet-hands-on/ | 15:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/meego-for-handsets-makes-its-first-appearance/ | 15:47 |
| babijoee | opengles is something that even HTC doesnt provide :p | 15:48 |
| stinebd | huh? | 15:48 |
| babijoee | jokes | 15:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah what? | 15:48 |
| babijoee | HTC provide terrible GPU drivers | 15:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Check out the second link though. | 15:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh | 15:48 |
| stinebd | htc doesn't provide them | 15:48 |
| babijoee | hu? | 15:48 |
| * JesusFreak316 forced hahaha | 15:48 | |
| TheDeadCPU | I thought GPU drivers was Chainfire's job? | 15:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 15:49 |
| babijoee | stinebd: they definitely dont get em from qualcomm | 15:49 |
| stinebd | they get them from the manufacturers | 15:49 |
| stinebd | ie ati or adreno | 15:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | qualcomm owns adreno though now, right? | 15:50 |
| stinebd | qualcomm owns everything | 15:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Didn't ATI sell their mobile graphics to Qualcomm? | 15:50 |
| babijoee | hrmm maybe i should rephrase | 15:50 |
| babijoee | HTC devices have terrible GPU drivers | 15:50 |
| stinebd | i still think you're wrong | 15:50 |
| stinebd | :P | 15:50 |
| babijoee | -.-" | 15:50 |
| babijoee | besides the G2 | 15:51 |
| stinebd | drivers can't make the chips support new stuff | 15:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Anyone going to watch the link to meego on a phone I posted? | 15:51 |
| stinebd | nope | 15:51 |
| stinebd | :P | 15:51 |
| stinebd | we're having a debate | 15:51 |
| * JesusFreak316 cries in a corner. | 15:51 | |
| TheDeadCPU | JesusFreak316, i did<3 | 15:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yay, someone cares. | 15:52 |
| babijoee | stinebd: sure enough so they keep increasing the hardware | 15:52 |
| babijoee | and buy the software for that | 15:52 |
| stinebd | looks like lots of wasted space in the phone version of meego too | 15:52 |
| stinebd | very annoying design | 15:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Really? I think it's widget based like android so you can put stuff to kill the wasted space. Not sure though. | 15:53 |
| babijoee | waits for gingerbread :) | 15:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^This | 15:53 |
| stinebd | gingerbread is vaporware | 15:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ginberbread $250 tablet plox | 15:54 |
| stinebd | i hear it'll be released the same day as duke nukem forever | 15:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Which is actually pretty soon. lol | 15:54 |
| babijoee | stinebd: froyo was vaporware :p | 15:55 |
| stinebd | 2011 is soon? | 15:55 |
| hamagc | tada | 15:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sooner than vaporware. | 15:55 |
| stinebd | we'll revisit this in 2012 after it's still not out | 15:55 |
| babijoee | my friend that it was going to be 2012 in 3 months -.- | 15:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | True. | 15:55 |
| babijoee | though* | 15:55 |
| babijoee | stinebd: i dont suppose you are getting a new phone soon? | 15:58 |
| stinebd | wha? i just paid $530 for a nexus one in may | 15:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | old | 15:58 |
| stinebd | and it'll be old in 3 years when i'm still using it | 15:59 |
| stinebd | i no longer have the luxury of buying things | 15:59 |
| babijoee | ooo yeah | 16:00 |
| babijoee | the damn ts bug annoys me too much | 16:00 |
| stinebd | what bug? | 16:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | That multitouch fail that happens from time to time | 16:01 |
| stinebd | maybe the att version doesnt do it | 16:02 |
| stinebd | i've never noticed any issues | 16:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | O.o just found out Rockbox is now an app for Android. | 16:02 |
| babijoee | while using the device the ts will report incorrect points | 16:02 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, It's just that sometimes the multi touch zoom fucks up | 16:02 |
| babijoee | so if i click anywhere near the middle it will press near the bottom | 16:02 |
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| TheDeadCPU | It's on all the Nexus Ones and Desires | 16:03 |
| rrew | babijoee, ts-calibration? | 16:03 |
| stinebd | never had a problem like either of those | 16:03 |
| babijoee | hahhaha | 16:03 |
| stinebd | probably one of those things that happens when you're just trying to show off | 16:03 |
| babijoee | nah | 16:03 |
| babijoee | dont think so | 16:03 |
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| babijoee | its a hw problem | 16:03 |
| rrew | :o | 16:03 |
| babijoee | calibration is good | 16:03 |
| rrew | happens in winmo? | 16:03 |
| stinebd | n1 doesnt run winmo | 16:04 |
| babijoee | multitouch makes it fk up | 16:04 |
| babijoee | nope | 16:04 |
| rrew | ohh | 16:04 |
| babijoee | talking about nexus one | 16:04 |
| stinebd | if it did i would throw it out the window | 16:04 |
| rrew | aha :P | 16:04 |
| babijoee | stinebd: then you could get a new device | 16:04 |
| babijoee | and honestly i recon that would be cool :p | 16:04 |
| stinebd | why do i want a new device? | 16:04 |
| babijoee | grrrrrr | 16:05 |
| stinebd | i have no money for the next six years or until i find a job in my field around here | 16:05 |
| babijoee | :o | 16:06 |
| bzo | what happens in 6 years? | 16:06 |
| stinebd | my car loan is paid off | 16:06 |
| bzo | ah right, your old car died a little while ago? | 16:07 |
| babijoee | hmmmm makes me want to try stock froyo build | 16:07 |
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| hamagc | hmm interesting | 16:11 |
| hamagc | so gps and the power control widget don't seem to be getting along | 16:11 |
| hamagc | i had gps turn on when the switch was off | 16:11 |
| babijoee | lol | 16:11 |
| hamagc | then i turned it on and got a fix now i can't get it to turn off | 16:11 |
| babijoee | could be just slow | 16:11 |
| hamagc | widget seems to do nothing | 16:11 |
| babijoee | probally | 16:11 |
| hamagc | could be.. i'll give it a few and reset | 16:11 |
| hamagc | but gps still kills deepsleep | 16:12 |
| babijoee | yeah | 16:12 |
| babijoee | no changes on gps for awhile now | 16:12 |
| hamagc | ya | 16:12 |
| babijoee | yawn* | 16:12 |
| babijoee | okay | 16:13 |
| hamagc | although with it turned off i can't seem to find myself | 16:13 |
| babijoee | i'm done | 16:13 |
| hamagc | turned on i can | 16:13 |
| hamagc | goodnight babijoee | 16:13 |
| babijoee | gnite guys | 16:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | 'night | 16:13 |
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| hamagc | boy it got quiet in here | 16:33 |
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| RB01 | hi | 16:35 |
| rrew | hey | 16:35 |
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| rrew | hmm, i cant seem to find where to switch to standard qwerty english keyboard :s | 16:38 |
| hamagc | goto keyboards | 16:41 |
| hamagc | unceck the chinese looking one and leave only the android one checked | 16:41 |
| hamagc | settings>language & keyboard> uncheck the japamese ime and the chinese one i can't read | 16:42 |
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| stinebd | or tap and hold on an input field, go to Input Method and select android keyboard | 16:44 |
| RB01 | what is launcher pro beta? | 16:44 |
| hamagc | umm | 16:45 |
| hamagc | a home screen launcher | 16:45 |
| rrew | tnx guys :) | 16:45 |
| RB01 | is it safe to remove? | 16:45 |
| hamagc | yes, are you on the newest system? it's not included with the newest system] | 16:45 |
| RB01 | I thought I was on the newest, I can't find anything concrete though. | 16:46 |
| hamagc | did you update today? | 16:46 |
| stinebd | the newest was released today and is build number FRX01 | 16:46 |
| RB01 | is the latest 2.2 AOSP .29.7.10.RC2.1? | 16:46 |
| stinebd | no | 16:46 |
| RB01 | oh.. i fell so silly now =/ | 16:47 |
| hamagc | lol | 16:47 |
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| ben7530 | Hello. I am having a problem with a startup.txt file of only 0 bytes. P.Android (latest build) ran fine once, but will not start again. Haret says it is looking for a "default.txt" file to run; no such file exists | 16:47 |
| hamagc | no default.txt, only startup.txt | 16:47 |
| RB01 | oh FRX01 is the final build? | 16:47 |
| hamagc | if it is 0bytes then your startup.txt is empty | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^What he said. | 16:48 |
| hamagc | replace with the correct one for your device | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^Again | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | :P | 16:48 |
| hamagc | :P | 16:48 |
| ben7530 | *hamagc Yes. Exactly. And startup.txt is 0 bytes. | 16:48 |
| ben7530 | Can I get that w/o reinstalling? | 16:49 |
| RB01 | can someone please clarify where the official latest download is for FRX01? I thought it would be on the downloads page, but it is just linked to a .ex2 | 16:49 |
| hamagc | yes, reboot into winmo and replace the startup.txt with the correct one for your device | 16:49 |
| rrew | RB01, http://files.xdandroid.com/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z | 16:49 |
| hamagc | RB01: the .ext2 file is the system file | 16:50 |
| ben7530 | @hamagc Right. But, where do I find it? Is it in the cab? place it in the andboot directory? | 16:50 |
| hamagc | though i believe babijoee is going to be putting together a new package with everything again | 16:50 |
| RB01 | thanks rrew | 16:50 |
| hamagc | did you install via cab? is there a folder called startup? | 16:50 |
| hamagc | someone should just delete the cab installers | 16:50 |
| hamagc | ben7530: what device do you have? | 16:51 |
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| PSPdemon | 'lo | 16:51 |
| PSPdemon | quick question regarding rhodium and battery reading | 16:51 |
| ben7530 | no. no startup folder. Do you reccomend the .rar installers? I though the .cab ones were faster, somehow. I am running a Sprint (CDMA) HTC TOuch Pro 2. | 16:52 |
| diamonuser | Hi hamagc, wonder if you could help (again!) I can't seem to use wifi with the zimage i downloaded last nite, just get an 'error' message - is there any way around this? | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Btw, rockbox user here. | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Got a Gigabeat S | 16:52 |
| PSPdemon | i dont know if there has been a battery meter fix for rhodium yet since 8/30/2010 but what i do know is that the rockbox android port sees the battery correctly | 16:52 |
| PSPdemon | ( eg: 53% in winmo is 53% in rockbox ) | 16:52 |
| rrew | diamonuser, which zimage did you used? | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Rockbox is running as an app, right? | 16:52 |
| PSPdemon | rockbox is being run as a app on android btw | 16:52 |
| PSPdemon | uea | 16:52 |
| PSPdemon | yea* | 16:52 |
| hamagc | yes use the rar package. those are complete with everything including the startup.txt files. the cab installers are not as useful | 16:52 |
| ben7530 | what's rockbox? can someone fill me in? | 16:52 |
| RB01 | ^ | 16:52 |
| hamagc | diamonuser: i have heard of issues with those kernals | 16:53 |
| PSPdemon | rockbox is a opensource mp3 firmware | 16:53 |
| diamonuser | the one from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=779975&page=4 | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox | 16:53 |
| PSPdemon | it got ported to android | 16:53 |
| hamagc | i didn't have any issues with the one i tried and wifi worked but if it does not work | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Only the best music player firmware ever. | 16:53 |
| ben7530 | ok; I will reinstall hamagc. If it doesn't work, I'll be back... Thanks for your help! | 16:53 |
| PSPdemon | interestingly enough it can read the battery status 100% correctly | 16:53 |
| RB01 | hmm... | 16:53 |
| PSPdemon | also JesusFreak316 i too have a gigabeat s :P | 16:53 |
| rrew | diamonuser, did you updated the modules file along with zImage? | 16:53 |
| PSPdemon | rockbox ftw | 16:53 |
| hamagc | your going to have to deal with it until everything with those drivers are figured out and a patch can be submitted to the main kernal which has wifi working properly | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep | 16:53 |
| RB01 | is there any way to take that battery component in rockbox and make android use it for its display? :P | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | This is the busiest I've ever seen this channel. | 16:54 |
| rrew | xD | 16:54 |
| diamonuser | ok hamagc, cool. | 16:54 |
| hamagc | i know viruscrazy had issues with getting the wifi modules to work properly but last i heard he had it figured out and like i said i had wifi working with his kernal | 16:54 |
| diamonuser | rrew, no, I didn't - would that make a difference? | 16:54 |
| hamagc | but ymmv. if you'd like, try downloading just the battery one, not the screen one, and see if wifi works then | 16:54 |
| hamagc | oh | 16:55 |
| hamagc | really? | 16:55 |
| hamagc | that would do it | 16:55 |
| rrew | diamonuser, you have to update the modules too | 16:55 |
| hamagc | you need the modules files with the zimage | 16:55 |
| hamagc | never update just one. they are a package deal | 16:55 |
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| hamagc | maybe he should post that in his thread to clear up confusion | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | PSPDemon: It actually looks like most of the devs are away right now. I'll mention it to them later if you want. | 16:56 |
| diamonuser | okay, will try this, thanks again guys | 16:56 |
| rrew | diamonuser, try updating both zImage and modules from that rar and boot again | 16:56 |
| PSPdemon | JesusFreak316, ill probably be on...who should i look out for? | 16:56 |
| PSPdemon | ( but yea if im not on mention it lol ) | 16:56 |
| diamonuser | ok | 16:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm definitely gonna check it out though; I haven't been happy with Android Music players up 'til now. | 16:56 |
| PSPdemon | yea | 16:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Stinebd, babijoee, or phh mainly. | 16:57 |
| PSPdemon | it works on my rhodium, but it seems like it has trouble building the library | 16:57 |
| PSPdemon | ill probably build my own rather than using a precompiled one thats up | 16:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did you put database.ignore and database.unignore files where needed? | 16:57 |
| PSPdemon | i used the precompiled apk | 16:57 |
| PSPdemon | for quick dirty testing | 16:58 |
| PSPdemon | lol | 16:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Doesn't really matter if you compiled it. | 16:58 |
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| PSPdemon | yea but theres nothing there xD | 16:58 |
| PSPdemon | plugins, apps, whatever is all missing :/ | 16:58 |
| PSPdemon | actually let me check again | 16:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | database.ignore tells the database to ignore that folder and database.unignore tells it to use that location even if the above folder has a database.ignore in it. | 16:59 |
| PSPdemon | heh | 16:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Example, you put database.ignore in your root of sd and a database.unignore in your music folder to tell it to only check there for music. | 16:59 |
| PSPdemon | OH | 16:59 |
| PSPdemon | now i get it | 17:00 |
| PSPdemon | i never did that on my gigabeast | 17:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | That might help; it may be trying to add a bunch of sound effects and stuff. | 17:00 |
| PSPdemon | yea | 17:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I use that on mine. | 17:00 |
| PSPdemon | it was at over 100,000 entries | 17:00 |
| PSPdemon | lol | 17:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I dualboot my s with the original firmware and put a database.ignore in the original firmware's library to avoid duplicates in rockbox. | 17:01 |
| PSPdemon | i have dualboot setup but i dont use the original firmware at all | 17:01 |
| PSPdemon | also yup...it does certainly read correctly the battery | 17:02 |
| PSPdemon | 88% winmo and 88% rockbox | 17:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Interesting; what does android battery say? | 17:02 |
| diamonuser | hi guys, do I delete the old modules or keep them there too? | 17:02 |
| rrew | delete them | 17:02 |
| diamonuser | ok | 17:03 |
| PSPdemon | under 70% | 17:03 |
| rrew | just add the modules that are in the same folder as the zimage | 17:03 |
| rrew | anyway both needs to be updated whenever there are some updates | 17:03 |
| PSPdemon | the last time i tried it it said 13% on android and 43% on rockbox ( which matched the 43% on winmo ) | 17:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | That's definitely significant. | 17:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | Thanks goodness rockbox is open source. :) | 17:04 |
| PSPdemon | hehe | 17:04 |
| rrew | you should contact camro | 17:04 |
| rrew | he is working on battery driver | 17:04 |
| RB01 | so do I see an accurate battery readout on the horizon? :D | 17:04 |
| RB01 | great find | 17:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah, forgot about him. :P | 17:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, contact camro. | 17:05 |
| RB01 | also what type of phone do you have? | 17:05 |
| PSPdemon | Rhodium | 17:05 |
| camro | sorry, i'm in a meeting ... | 17:05 |
| camro | the patch is based from crazyvirus .. | 17:06 |
| camro | maybe we can talk - later ... | 17:06 |
| camro | in 2hrs | 17:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | Definitely. | 17:06 |
| camro | or tomorrow ~10hrs vienna time | 17:06 |
| PSPdemon | heh | 17:06 |
| camro | well, at first i want a good level cal | 17:06 |
| camro | c | 17:06 |
| PSPdemon | all is good | 17:06 |
| PSPdemon | my classes start in...45 min | 17:06 |
| diamonuser | hi guys, that worked, wifi now working, thanks! | 17:07 |
| camro | then next is to see, how we can save battery consume | 17:07 |
| camro | RB01: the battery accurate is ongoing ... see in xda . in blackstone android threads ... | 17:08 |
| RB01 | awesome! | 17:09 |
| RB01 | I'll check it out thanks | 17:09 |
| camro | i think will be commit to kernel in next few day | 17:09 |
| camro | there are now a lot of patches, which will be soon commited ... | 17:09 |
| camro | next 7 days, there will be a lot of good news :) | 17:09 |
| camro | cu | 17:09 |
| camro | but, for now i build the kernel only blackstone | 17:10 |
| RB01 | =/ I'm on Topaz | 17:10 |
| camro | but i can build next kernel also for all other devices | 17:10 |
| camro | topaz too, possible | 17:10 |
| RB01 | sweet | 17:10 |
| rrew | RB01, you will see also some new kernel fixes | 17:10 |
| rrew | :P | 17:10 |
| rrew | for topaz | 17:10 |
| RB01 | lol I'm getting so hyped | 17:10 |
| camro | i'm sure the next 7 days, the list of bugs will be shorter :) | 17:11 |
| rrew | testing now a fix, for an annoying thing | 17:11 |
| rrew | and it seems it works := | 17:11 |
| rrew | :)* | 17:11 |
| RB01 | :D | 17:12 |
| rrew | anyway there will be an update to rhod panel.c too :) | 17:12 |
| rrew | soo as camro says a lot of patches will be commited | 17:13 |
| camro | what i need is - > maybe you can test with my kernel ... | 17:14 |
| camro | and activate kernel-logging | 17:14 |
| camro | see how to do the test - > see xda on my battery kernel | 17:14 |
| camro | cu | 17:14 |
| camro | must go | 17:14 |
| rrew | cya | 17:15 |
| RB01 | bye | 17:15 |
| RB01 | ok i'm on the latest now but the keyboard is whoa | 17:21 |
| rrew | whoa? | 17:22 |
| RB01 | whoa = onomatopoeia :P | 17:23 |
| rrew | :P | 17:23 |
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| mes | is htc_msm_android_defconfig the correct defconf? | 17:27 |
| hamagc | well that was gay | 17:29 |
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| JesusFreak316 | hamagc: what was? | 17:31 |
| hamagc | i work off of a laptop at work and i was off the power for about 15 minutes and it died | 17:32 |
| hamagc | i just lost 2 hours of work | 17:32 |
| hamagc | grrrrr | 17:32 |
| rrew | :o | 17:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm a compulsive saver. | 17:32 |
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| rrew | anyway, gnite guys, cya | 17:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | You should see me play Pokemon. | 17:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Still sucks majorly. | 17:33 |
| hamagc | gn rrew | 17:33 |
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| hamagc | lol | 17:33 |
| hamagc | i usually save but this data entry puts me to sleep so i was trying to fly through it | 17:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Actually starcraft is worse. I have around 20 saves every single player mission. | 17:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did the computer not warn you? What program were you using? I know office autosaves... | 17:34 |
| hamagc | office 03 | 17:35 |
| hamagc | this laptop never warns me | 17:35 |
| hamagc | the battery is shot on it | 17:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | 03, not sure if that autosaves. | 17:36 |
| hamagc | nope lol | 17:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | I thought it did though; I had it no so long ago. | 17:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Guess not. | 17:36 |
| hamagc | well back to it | 17:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | :/ | 17:37 |
| hamagc | ohhh | 17:40 |
| hamagc | that confuses me | 17:40 |
| hamagc | so i'm looking for a moment for my g/f | 17:40 |
| hamagc | all of them on ebay are like 150+ for used | 17:41 |
| hamagc | i see a refurb for 145 | 17:41 |
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| hamagc | heh data crashed then phone wouldn't make a call then froze | 18:05 |
| diamonuser | hi again, what's the best way to download ringtones for android? | 18:07 |
| hamagc | on your computer then save to internal memory | 18:08 |
| hamagc | or market | 18:08 |
| hamagc | there are alot of ringtone apps in market | 18:08 |
| RB01 | does the latest build of xdandroid support usb -> storage? | 18:08 |
| RB01 | or must I just use winmo to transfer files? | 18:08 |
| diamonuser | okay, how do I select ringtones from internal memory? | 18:09 |
| hamagc | settings>sounds | 18:10 |
| hamagc | or if you have an mp3 that you would like you can set as ringtone from mp3 player | 18:10 |
| diamonuser | okay, so when I upload ringtones to my phone, android will pick them up? | 18:11 |
| hamagc | yes, place them in the media folder in your internal memory | 18:12 |
| diamonuser | ok, thanks | 18:12 |
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| JesusFreak316 | RB01: Still no usb host afaik. You can do it either in winmo, via adb, or set up a ftp server on your phone via swiftp and upload the files using an ftp client such as filezilla. I recommend the third choice. | 18:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, one other good choice is droidexplorer. It makes adb easy to use. | 18:34 |
| RB01 | cool thanks | 18:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | I actually recommend droid explorer if you can get it to work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558108 | 18:35 |
| hamagc | it's kinda flakey | 18:35 |
| hamagc | if you can't connect, unplug your phone, wait for the usb debugging icons to go away then plug it back in and try again | 18:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, that's why I said if you can get it to work. | 18:36 |
| hamagc | but i heart droid explorer | 18:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Still install swiftp on your phone for a backup. | 18:36 |
| hamagc | turns adb into a drag and drop gui | 18:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^Pretty much. | 18:37 |
| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, alvoryx, who says: continue the great work guys :-) | 18:50 |
| hamagc | woot! | 18:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | hamagc: Did you ever get mms working? | 18:59 |
| hamagc | no :( | 18:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Aw. | 18:59 |
| hamagc | i think it is a problem with the ril as many have said | 18:59 |
| hamagc | our ril is about 50k | 18:59 |
| hamagc | the evo and hero one is like 800k | 18:59 |
| hamagc | so there is alot missing | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, yeah probably. | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just wondering. | 19:00 |
| hamagc | they also use rmnet to pass data, we have it via ppp | 19:00 |
| hamagc | so with those differences we can't receive | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Was our ril coded from scratch or where's it from? | 19:00 |
| hamagc | only send | 19:00 |
| hamagc | modified from the vogue | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh. Works fine for them though? | 19:00 |
| hamagc | and the vogue has mms via weblink sent to the phone | 19:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh. | 19:00 |
| hamagc | and thats something on sprints end, not android | 19:01 |
| hamagc | and i've spoken with sprint to see if it is something that can be changed and was told it was not something they can do on their end | 19:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | :/ | 19:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just wondering. | 19:01 |
| hamagc | so it must be something that is provisioned when you activate the phone | 19:01 |
| hamagc | retarteded. | 19:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Since vogue is on verizon would it work for the raph500? | 19:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | Was on verizon. | 19:01 |
| hamagc | no clue since i don't have verizon | 19:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just a thought. vogue is the same thing as the htc touch, right? | 19:02 |
| hamagc | really not sure how it works for them but i assume similar to sprint seeing as they are both the same tech. | 19:02 |
| hamagc | ya | 19:02 |
| hamagc | well almost the same thing. i think the vogue has a 200mhz processor and the touch has a 400 or something weird like that | 19:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, saw one of those in a verizon a while back. That may be a way to get verizon customers working though. | 19:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | Really? That's a pretty major difference. | 19:03 |
| hamagc | lol right | 19:03 |
| hamagc | or sorry, the vogue has double the ram and processor of the original touch | 19:04 |
| stinebd | rhodium stolen | 19:04 |
| stinebd | time to try tethering | 19:04 |
| hamagc | The CDMA version of the Touch, known as the "HTC Vogue" or the "HTC P3050", has double the RAM and ROM of the original Touch, a faster 400 MHz processor (MSM7500), and a faster over the air data capability, but no Wi-Fi.[1][2] | 19:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | That sucks stinebd. | 19:04 |
| hamagc | wtf? | 19:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | How'd it get stolen? | 19:04 |
| stinebd | i meant i stole a rhodium | 19:04 |
| hamagc | someone stole your tp2? you had a tp2? | 19:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, lol. | 19:05 |
| hamagc | or are you talking about the tethering? | 19:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sounds much more like you. | 19:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, you bad you. | 19:05 |
| hamagc | ohhh | 19:05 |
| hamagc | thats better lol | 19:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | i was just talking to hamagc about mms. | 19:05 |
| hamagc | stupid mms | 19:06 |
| hamagc | i just tell everyone to email me now | 19:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | What is preventing us from doing mms in a similar way to the vogue builds with a link to the site? | 19:06 |
| hamagc | the carrier | 19:06 |
| hamagc | however i wonder what would happen if you spook your esn to one from a vogue and activate it. would sprint send a weblink that way? | 19:06 |
| hamagc | spoof* | 19:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know that hamagc; I was asking stinebd. | 19:07 |
| hamagc | ohh | 19:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | I was gonna say that, though it won't work for sprint, would it work for say, verizon? | 19:07 |
| stinebd | don't ask me anything about cdma. my mind isn't screwed up enough to comprehend that madness | 19:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | I remember my dad's old phone getting mms links that day. | 19:07 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:07 |
| hamagc | he hates cdma | 19:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | What about gsm providers? Do none of them support linking to mms's? | 19:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Better? | 19:08 |
| * TheDeadCPU is now going to sleep. Gnite people. | 19:08 | |
| hamagc | makkonen is the main cdma guy but he's moved on to the evo so he is kinda out of the loop lately but he said ril issues | 19:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | 'nite | 19:08 |
| hamagc | i believe the gsm models are getting mms | 19:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, well then. | 19:08 |
| hamagc | the majority of our ril is based on gsm tech | 19:08 |
| hamagc | then tweaked for cdma | 19:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | My phone's not activated so I didn't know. | 19:09 |
| stinebd | cdma stole muh ril! | 19:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | More likely than you think! | 19:10 |
| stinebd | cmoooon rhodium | 19:11 |
| stinebd | chuggachugga | 19:11 |
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| stinebd | mmm beautiful boot animation | 19:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Which tethering are you trying? Tetherdroid or froyo tether? | 19:12 |
| stinebd | froyo | 19:12 |
| stinebd | no idea wtf tetherdroid is | 19:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does tetherdroid work? | 19:12 |
| stinebd | we have our own tether app anyway | 19:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Never mind; was thinking of this. http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ | 19:13 |
| stinebd | that's what ours is based on | 19:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | But doesn't really matter when we have our own. | 19:13 |
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| stinebd | i had to modify that for us | 19:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | No data connection; so never tried it. | 19:13 |
| stinebd | brag brag brag | 19:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why would I brag about not having one? | 19:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, you bragging. | 19:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 19:14 |
| stinebd | oh noes | 19:16 |
| stinebd | I//system/bin/iptables( 1263): iptables v1.3.7: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) | 19:16 |
| JesusFreak316 | :( | 19:19 |
| stinebd | random rebewt | 19:19 |
| stinebd | yep, panic in bcm4325 | 19:23 |
| stinebd | i guess it didn't like me checking the box repeatedly | 19:23 |
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| mes | stinebd, is there a way to limit the files included in the system without having to edit files in vendor/, device/ ? | 19:34 |
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| rjmjr69 | hi | 19:34 |
| stinebd | limit? | 19:34 |
| stinebd | i guess the answer depends on the files you don't want there | 19:35 |
| mes | exclude | 19:35 |
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| mes | like the amazon.mp3 or all the google apps | 19:35 |
| stinebd | amazonmp3 is gone from the new gapps package | 19:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'd just delete the .apk files from the /system folder. | 19:36 |
| stinebd | and twitter also | 19:36 |
| stinebd | if you don't want any google apps, just don't put the gapps package there and it won't process it | 19:36 |
| hamagc | ok i can find ramconsole for diamond, raph, and hd2 | 19:36 |
| hamagc | no tp2 | 19:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, you're building a system yourself. | 19:36 |
| mes | I think last time I did that the build broke | 19:36 |
| stinebd | tp2 just worked for me hamagc | 19:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did what? | 19:36 |
| stinebd | i got a backtrace from it | 19:36 |
| hamagc | oh ok | 19:37 |
| hamagc | i still never figured out why mine comes out as garbage | 19:37 |
| mes | and repo can't deal with any changes to the files, it just quits | 19:37 |
| hamagc | but i gave up on it | 19:37 |
| stinebd | o.O | 19:37 |
| stinebd | repo? | 19:37 |
| mes | you know, "repo sync" | 19:38 |
| stinebd | err | 19:38 |
| jjpeasl | whats up jesus | 19:38 |
| stinebd | it's designed to deal with changes | 19:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hey jjpeasl. | 19:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | Replied earlier today but you had disappeared. | 19:39 |
| mes | a buildspec.mk that could override other included file, repo won't try to merge any changes, it just jams. | 19:39 |
| jjpeasl | fell asleep lol | 19:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | haha | 19:40 |
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| stinebd | mes: sorry but you're really not making any sense... repo doesn't even look at buildspec | 19:40 |
| stinebd | got output? | 19:40 |
| stinebd | chances are the local clones in .repo are fudged | 19:41 |
| jjpeasl | does anyone know why with att the xda build will connet and use diffrent att servers or names, ie some times it says 'at&t@' 'at&t0' 'cingular' | 19:41 |
| jjpeasl | just a few to name | 19:41 |
| mes | two different comments, repo will not merge anything. output? no that was before I built in the same xterm | 19:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | No me; no cell service. | 19:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | *Not me | 19:42 |
| TMXOD | @jjpeasl probably something to do with the cell tower id, but don't quote me on it | 19:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | Probably just the names of different apn presets. | 19:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | Don't quote me either. :P | 19:42 |
| jjpeasl | ok, just wondering because depending on what one its using also depends if i'll have use of my 3g | 19:43 |
| mes | I mention buildspec.mk since it has other build customizations. I'd like at least two builds, a borged one, and one with a radical googleectomy | 19:44 |
| stinebd | ... | 19:44 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:45 |
| TMXOD | Anybody experiencing phone audio issues with the latest kernel/rootfs/initrd? I tried a 2.2 build, but reverted to 2.1 due to people on the other end of the line not hearing my voice... I updated the files for the 2.1 build and now there is no sound coming from the speaker either... | 19:45 |
| stinebd | mes: the borged part i have no idea what you're talking about so you're on your own there ;) | 19:45 |
| TMXOD | borged likely means full of Google stuff | 19:46 |
| stinebd | mes: but for a build with google apps and one without, first set up your tree with google apps normally, then remove the gapps zip (or rename it) and run unzip-files.sh again and rebuild | 19:46 |
| stinebd | the unzip-files script will handle a case without google apps | 19:46 |
| stinebd | you need to run it again to modify the vendor makefile | 19:47 |
| mes | Ahh, I didn't read to the end of the script | 19:47 |
| mes | thanks. | 19:48 |
| stinebd | about the repo thing, output would be very useful. but like i said, you'll probably end up having to stash your local changes | 19:49 |
| stinebd | damn rhodium is unstable | 19:50 |
| hamagc | ok gnight guys | 19:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | g'night | 19:51 |
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| stinebd | night | 19:51 |
| mes | oh yes, I saw something about "stashing". some of the build dependencies ignore changes to file in vendor or device, can't remember which, so it requires a clean rebuild, which is a drag. | 19:52 |
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| TMXOD | Simplifying my question... If experiencing hardware-related issues on newer builds, would downgrading the kernel/modules help, or could there be something in the rootfs/initrd/system contributing to the issue? | 19:54 |
| stinebd | maybe to both | 19:55 |
| TMXOD | anybody here have a raphael (at&t fuze preferably) in correct working order (with a kernel built after 3/28) that can tell me the date of the build for kernel/rootfs/initrd they are using? | 19:57 |
| stinebd | i develop using a fuze, all latest components | 20:01 |
| TMXOD | I'll give Glemson's 9/8 kernel build a try... it seems to work for most people... wish me luck... | 20:02 |
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| TMXOD | Using the 9/28 Glemson kernel/modules fixed the issue... thanks all for the great work | 20:09 |
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| jjpeasl | hey jesus what thc are you using? | 20:10 |
| jjpeasl | htc even | 20:11 |
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| stinebd | hmm | 20:40 |
| stinebd | rhod tethering claims to be active | 20:40 |
| stinebd | not showing up in the scan though | 20:40 |
| stinebd | well no errors anywhere | 20:44 |
| stinebd | woo | 20:54 |
| stinebd | works | 20:54 |
| bzo | nice work stinebd | 21:12 |
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| stinebd | anybody got a rhodium? | 21:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | You. | 21:32 |
| stinebd | i don't | 21:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | True; you stole it. | 21:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just felt like being a jerk. | 21:32 |
| stinebd | rhodium testers needed for the impending rootfs update | 21:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | For the wifi tether fix? | 21:33 |
| stinebd | yes | 21:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Good for them. | 21:33 |
| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20100917-951921b) at: http://is.gd/fed6u -- Changes at: http://is.gd/fed6t | 21:33 |
| stinebd | there it is | 21:33 |
| stinebd | unfortunately the twitter updater is broken | 21:34 |
| stinebd | stupid oauth | 21:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is this related to the htc twitter outage? | 21:34 |
| stinebd | there we go | 21:53 |
| stinebd | all better | 21:53 |
| stinebd | the rootfs mods are a hack until the next release with a fixed netd | 22:00 |
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| stinebd | wow it's arrrghhh on irc! | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol wow indeed...? | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, never thought you'd pick me out in a lineup haha | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | just trying to help test the new stuff... | 22:43 |
| stinebd | don't test camera | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | not planning on it :P | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | in call crap. | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | [acl] was askin. | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | actually i could care less about camera | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | so stinebd... i know i'm an 'official contributor' now... but how can i actually contribute? i'd love to, but i'm not much of a programmer anymore. i doubt i'll be able to jump into any of the code... i've looked at some of the basic battery stuff and got lost quick. | 23:05 |
| stinebd | you contribute as a bug wrangler | 23:05 |
| stinebd | just let us know when lots of people complain about the same thing on the forums, if it's something new | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol i do that indeed. | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | that works. i can definitely be a great tester as well. i've been helping wozz on the nbh stuff as much as i can... | 23:07 |
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| R^7Z | Hello ppl | 23:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did you ever check the logs? | 23:41 |
| R^7Z | Yup | 23:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Did that app do it? | 23:41 |
| R^7Z | Saddly I haven't had the time to try that out, yet! | 23:42 |
| R^7Z | However | 23:42 |
| R^7Z | I don't know if I stumbled onto something new or if this is just the way Android works | 23:42 |
| R^7Z | I was looking around the Android sub-forum for our devices (raphfuze) | 23:43 |
| R^7Z | Basically, I tried another system.ext2 | 23:44 |
| R^7Z | from Blazin (I think is the name) | 23:44 |
| R^7Z | and it seems to work | 23:44 |
| R^7Z | The ones from the other builds on neopeak (I think) | 23:44 |
| R^7Z | I had no idea that system.ext2 were interchangable | 23:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | With the same data.img? | 23:45 |
| R^7Z | Yup! | 23:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh. | 23:46 |
| R^7Z | Here's what I did | 23:46 |
| R^7Z | I used my previous build from the zipped files | 23:46 |
| R^7Z | let it build my data.img | 23:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | I guess theoretically it should work for the most part; the only things, from my understanding, that would mess it up are permissions. If those are ok then it just loads the new system with your settings. | 23:47 |
| R^7Z | Honestly had no idea what to expect | 23:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | I can't remember exactly, but I might have once switched from an xdandroid build to a klinux sense build on the same data.img. Not sure, but that might have happened. | 23:48 |
| R^7Z | Just kind of wanted the black taskbar and to see if it would work | 23:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | It is interesting though. | 23:48 |
| R^7Z | Tis, it tis... | 23:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | I gotta get to bed though; early Calc III exam tomorrow. :? | 23:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meant :/ | 23:48 |
| R^7Z | woot woot! | 23:48 |
| R^7Z | Good luck bro! | 23:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Thanks; I want to get it over with; I'm sick of vectors. :P | 23:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Anyways, good night. | 23:49 |
| R^7Z | Later | 23:49 |
| babijoee | hi R^7Z | 23:53 |
| R^7Z | Sup bro | 23:53 |
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| babijoee | where's this blazn rom people keep talking about :p | 23:54 |
| R^7Z | I gotta look, was reading up on the HTC androidstaysafe project | 23:54 |
| babijoee | ooo | 23:55 |
| babijoee | not on xda? | 23:55 |
| R^7Z | It is | 23:55 |
| R^7Z | Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581429 | 23:55 |
| R^7Z | That's what I'm reading up on now | 23:56 |
| R^7Z | I was curious as to how I could update the system.sqsh from klinuxs' build | 23:56 |
| R^7Z | from sqsh to ext2 | 23:56 |
| R^7Z | But if you want the link to blazn, I'll have to go a huntin | 23:57 |
| R^7Z | :p | 23:57 |
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