Sunday, 2010-08-22

jjpeaslthink the only option is blue tooth00:00
JesusFreak316Really? That seems like a bad design idea.00:00
JesusFreak316let me check.00:00
jjpeaslmight be able to plug in head phones threw the charger port but not sure00:01
JesusFreak316It says it has an aoudio jack: http://www.htc.com/us/products/tilt-2-att#tech-specs00:01
JesusFreak316That IS the phone, correct?00:01
JesusFreak316auodio, lol.00:01
JesusFreak316Fail.00:01
JesusFreak316Actually, aoudio was the initial fail. :p00:02
JesusFreak316Oh, but it's not 3.5mm audio jack.00:03
jjpeaslyep thats the pone00:03
JesusFreak316It's probably like my fuze and you have to use the usb adapter.00:03
JesusFreak316Does she have an adapter? It should have come with the phone.00:04
jjpeaslyeah but not on her rite now00:05
JesusFreak316Yeah, I'd try that out. If no audio then then it's probably a kernel problem or something. You'd have to check with one of the devs.00:06
JesusFreak316http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Supported_Devices00:07
JesusFreak316Just noticed this. Audio is not fully supported on her phone yet.00:08
jjpeasloh ok00:09
JesusFreak316I'd still try out headphones just to see though.00:09
jjpeaslother than that seems to work fine only other bug i see is the display sometimes will be in a diffrent direction than it should be00:11
jjpeaslwill have her do that when she heads home.00:11
JesusFreak316You mean like incorrectly rotated? I just turn off autorotate.00:11
jjpeasloh ok00:11
JesusFreak316It still rotates when you slide out the keyboard.00:12
jjpeaslyep problem solved lol00:12
jjpeasli didnt even think of that, i did the same with my g100:12
jjpeasldo you use the latitude app at all?00:13
JesusFreak316I gotta get to bed though; church tomorrow. Get back on tomorrow and we'll see if we can a custom rom working on your g1. :)00:13
JesusFreak316Latitude, nah.00:13
JesusFreak316No data plan, so no agps so gps is a pain.00:13
JesusFreak316Plus I'd have to be indoors to update my location, so uh pretty much useless. ;)00:14
jjpeaslno g1 right now the batt is completely dead00:14
JesusFreak316That's why I said tomorrow. Well, that's not really why; I gotta get some sleep is why but that works too.00:14
jjpeaslbut as always thanks for helping bro night00:15
JesusFreak316You're very welcome. G'night.00:15
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x2I just though of this but.. since the hero uses the same chipset and such as the touch pro but runs android native, could you look at that to get the camera and other issues/optimizations fixed?03:22
Unholyits not that simple, and im shure devs have looked at that before hundreds of times, they just take time03:33
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hamagcx2 hero has some different hardware (camera is 5mp, ours is 3.2)03:39
x2ah :(03:39
hamagcthe hero mms.apk is what i am trying to get to work for us though03:39
x2im actually really content with it as is besides battery life03:40
x2battery life is the only reason i keep going back to winmo, and that only lasts a few dats generally lol03:40
hamagci only use winmo for camera or if i go somewhere for a long time and i need my phone03:40
x2but really, ill go to work on an 8 hr day, use my phone for maybe an hr all together and the rest of the time its in deep sleep03:41
hamagcbut for the most part i'm running xdandroid full time03:41
x2and its dead in 5-6 hrs03:41
x28 hrs if i charge it sometime for a little while03:41
x2yea, me too03:41
hamagcya it doesn't last long. i have about 6 batteries i share with my g/f and i have it on the charger alot at work03:41
hamagci make it all day on usually 2 batteries03:41
x2maybe ill just do that03:41
hamagctook 3 today but not on a charger at all really03:42
x2I have 2 but switching is just annoying :/03:42
hamagclol ya i hear ya03:42
x2also: is there a quickgps app for android?03:43
x2thats the other thing thats slightly annoying03:43
hamagcwell cell tower location works but i don't believe it works on cdma03:43
x2i can get a gps lock in 2 seconds in winmo only because of quickgps syncing03:43
x2it works03:43
x2you just need to have wifi on for it to work03:43
x2which makes no sense..03:43
hamagcya that pulls it through wifi not cell tower03:43
x2wifi on and not connected to anything03:44
x2it has to be cell tower03:44
hamagcreally?03:44
x2yes03:44
hamagci haven't tried it without wifi connected03:44
x2flip on wifi unconnected, open maps03:44
x2instant lock within 30M or whatever03:44
x2it shows a large blue circle as the estimation and its pretty accurate03:44
hamagcehh it keeps telling me thtat my location is temp. unavailable03:47
x2hrm03:47
x2sec, ill try it again now03:48
x2booting xd03:48
hamagcbut as soon as my wifi connected it if found me03:48
x2did you unconnect and leave wifi on and try?03:49
x2i dont have it connected since i never use wifi03:49
hamagcya i deleted my ap but left wifi on03:49
hamagc3g connected back up and couldn't get a loc. gps on too03:49
hamagcreconnected to my ap and by the time i got back to maps it had found me03:49
hamagclet me wait a minute and i'll test it all over again lol03:50
x2sigh its not booting for me now.. o.003:50
hamagclol not when you need it to of course not03:51
x2yea haha trying again03:51
x2i would have gps off, enable wifi, open maps and hit find location, and it would do it pretty instantly03:51
x2sometimes i would have to hit find location a few times but it always worked03:51
hamagcok gps off, wifi on but not connected to my ap, back into maps.03:52
x2it better boot now lol03:53
x2i turned auto backlight off..03:53
x2the only thing i did was flash a new winmo rom and havent booted xdand since then03:53
x2think its good now, hopefully03:54
x2yea.. its good03:54
hamagcwon't matter. i flashed my gf back to stock and relocked it and xda still ran great03:54
hamagcand better than her stock winmo or rom lol03:54
x2lol03:54
hamagcwell apparently it found me03:54
x2:p03:54
hamagcupdated 0 minutes ago03:54
x2yea03:54
hamagclets get a log of this03:55
x2i just wish it did that with wifi off03:55
x2now wouldnt that make more sense haha03:55
hamagcwell now it seems to have worked with wifi off03:56
x2maybe i shouldnt OC03:57
hamagcwhy?03:57
x2im ocd to 62003:57
x2battery life :/03:57
x2lol03:57
hamagci'm at 69903:57
hamagcbut i underclock with screen off03:57
hamagcmax at 25603:57
x2with ocwidget?03:57
x2i used to do that03:57
hamagcmhmm03:57
x2ill set that up again i think03:57
x2hrm03:57
hamagcdidn't really notice any battery difference with it oced and not03:57
x2yea it takes the shaft so early on03:58
x2haha03:58
x2maps found me too, to 50m03:59
hamagcno wifi right?03:59
x2oh wait, let me try with it off03:59
x2ugh, how do i make it forget my location lol, its the same i cant tell if it worked, other than it didnt say it wasnt available04:00
hamagcshould give you an update time04:00
x2oh yea, ill just open lat04:01
x2yea.. 0 mins ago04:01
x2guess it works all the time now o.004:01
x2but that doesnt make sense since ill be out trying to get a darn lock and it cant for 5+ minutes lol04:01
hamagcheh and all this time i thought it was still broken04:01
hamagclol well it's not perfect04:02
x2holy F, it shows addresses in latitude now04:02
x2insane04:02
x2my friend is asleep at her place and she has it on lol04:02
hamagclol04:02
hamagcheh now mines not updating04:03
x2i need to find a quickgps app for android, there has to be one..04:03
x2that makes the actual gps lock instant vs it takingforever04:03
hamagcheh now it found me and fancy widets weather found me too04:05
x2lol04:05
hamagcnice!04:06
x2seems to be good here as well so far04:06
x2im going to set 700mhz + get ocwidget going04:06
hamagcmaybe monday i'll put together a list of features working and not so we have a definate knowledge instead of always second guessing lol04:07
x22 hrs sleep is going to be exciting04:07
hamagclol oh ya04:07
hamagcmaybe i'll do a datasheet with all the devices04:07
hamagcthat we support04:08
hamagcso everyone can stop asking too04:08
x2also, on a random note, pop open latitude with no wifi on and see what it says on the top :p04:08
hamagcnot that will read it and stop asking lol04:08
x2it tells you to wnable wifi and explains that even when unconnected but enabled it can help find your location04:08
x2which made 0 sense to me lol04:08
hamagci see click to enable04:08
x2yea, a lot of people do ask the same stuff04:08
hamagchttp://pastebin.com/ygXzZf0b04:10
hamagcthere is a logcat from my crash earlier04:10
hamagcwell radio crashed04:11
hamagcmaybe i should have done a radio logcat too04:11
hamagcdamnit!04:11
hamagcshould have some good info though04:11
hamagc08-21 15:12:03.680 I/DEBUG  (  175): debuggerd committing suicide to free the zombie!04:12
hamagclol loved that line04:12
x2LOL04:12
x2I want to learn more about the internals of android04:13
x2if I keep this phone for much longer I can see it happening04:13
x2:/04:13
hamagci see alot of mms stuff04:13
hamagcwonder what thats about04:13
hamagci honestly love this phone04:13
x2I dont mind it04:13
hamagcif we got android running properly it would be a great phone04:14
x2oh ywa one other bug that makes me want to break something..04:14
hamagchas the same size processor as the "lower end" devices that are still coming04:14
x2once in awhile for whatever reason, my 3g will get "stuck"04:14
x2it will show constant upload while trying to xfer data but the dl light shows nothing and no data works04:14
x2only way ive been able to fix it is a full reboot04:15
x2airplane mode might work but im scared of that since that used to always for a reboot too04:15
x2lose/lose lol04:15
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hamagcya i get that with 3g from time to time. pretty rare though04:22
hamagcoh well, good x2.04:23
hamagctime for me to get to bed04:23
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20100822_132630) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100822_132630-package.tar.bz207:37
phhthedicemaster: you're sure that Desire Z = G2 ?07:45
phhoulaaaaa07:45
phhbad scroll07:45
phhand bad tab07:46
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GlemSomphh, Seems your last commit doesn't compile... :)11:30
GlemSomdrivers/i2c/chips/microp-klt.c: In function 'micropklt_lcd_precess_spi_table':11:31
GlemSomdrivers/i2c/chips/microp-klt.c:357: error: implicit declaration of function 'usleep'11:31
GlemSomGotta go... bbl11:31
phhthanks11:32
phhstupid brain11:32
xdandroidNew kernel available (20100822_174724) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100822_174724-package.tar.bz211:57
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gwonanyone tried the CyanogenMod builds on the touch pro? I tried them out today after playing with the normal xdandroid build for a few days. Can't help but think the Cyan install procedure is overly complex...seems pretty buggy, nowhere near as stable as XDANDROID16:01
x2pretty much my take on it as well16:05
x2I ran froyoredux and the cm6 build and while they ran faster than xdandroid in general, they were super buggy and after a few days I had force close messages all over the place and that not16:06
x2The latest builds broke gmail and the browser too which is a no go for me since those are some of the main reasons I love android lol16:06
gwonyep same, android market also force quitting whenever kicking off a download16:22
gwonsetting xdandroid back up as we speak :)16:22
Fironxdandroid's performance is pretty reasonable, and gets better by the day16:24
Fironsurprisingly stable too, aside from the occasional broken data.img :D16:24
gwonagreed16:24
gwonthe only remaining issue for me that keeps me from being a full convert is the battery (Im still not sure if its the batter life itself or just the rporting of the battery life)16:25
gwonbut it puts me off16:25
x2yea, me too, plus a few nagging bugs16:25
x2its actually both, it reports wrong and still dies quick :/16:26
x2once xd dies, if you reboot into winmo, it will be 20-40%16:26
x2hopefully that gets fixed at some point16:26
gwonI thought as much. Half considering buying a dock so it's charging all the time :)16:26
gwonI did notice that winmo was reporting above xda16:26
gwonon battery life16:27
gwonanyone else noticed on xda the market apps taking an age to download?16:43
gwonalmost feels to me like it's using the mobile network, rather than the connected wifi network16:43
x2yep16:54
x2well it just is slow at times16:54
x2on 3g it was going like 20KB/s or less16:54
x2speed tests resulted in 1mbit+16:54
x2so it looks to be a market issue16:55
gwoncool17:02
gwonthanks for the info17:02
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stinebdxdandroid: seen unholy17:41
xdandroidstinebd: unholy was last seen in #xdandroid 14 hours, 7 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <Unholy> its not that simple, and im shure devs have looked at that before hundreds of times, they just take time17:41
stinebdxdandroid: later tell unholy (from your donut aosp thread) "This ROM Should pretty much as Stable as Android can get on our Devices, it is also very fast since its based on Donut(no fillrate)." << what exactly do you mean by no fillrate?17:43
xdandroidstinebd: The operation succeeded.17:43
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Camrohi @ all17:51
x2hey17:54
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JesusFreak316stinebd: Just got back on; saw your post at 5:43 about unholy's rom and the fillrate? Did he ever answer? Personally, I would love to know what is going on with the fillrate bug.20:31
stinebd"fillrate" is almost certainly a misnomer, if there's even a concrete idea behind any bug20:31
stinebdfillrate would have to do with opengl stuff20:31
stinebdwhich isn't what's slowing the UI down20:31
JesusFreak316The UI's not the problem, it's 3d games. :P20:32
stinebdhuh?20:32
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JesusFreak316For example Quake 3 runs ~15 fps on his donut rom but about 1 on xdandroid.20:32
JesusFreak316I've heard something about there being a fill rate bug.20:33
JesusFreak316Something to do with drawing pixels slowly.20:33
JesusFreak316And yes, it's opengl.20:33
stinebdso he has reverted to donut to play a quake3 port?20:33
JesusFreak316Nah, I'm sure he has other reasons but that is a benefit of donut atm.20:34
JesusFreak316I've heard other 3d things run better in donut also. Can't remember off the top of my head though.20:34
stinebdwell20:39
stinebdi still don't understand how that would happen20:40
stinebdfillrate is a hardware thing20:40
JesusFreak316Yeah, and it's not exactly a major issue for most people.20:40
x2battery life #120:40
x2:p20:40
stinebdgiven the same depth, dimensions and renderings, performance should be about the same, aside from environmental factors20:41
stinebdhowever if it's trying to work around some bug in g1 (for example) there may be a variation in the code somewhere20:41
JesusFreak316All I know is that there is definitely a major difference in certain apps. Just wanted to know if he ever got back to you about it and clear it up if he didn't.20:41
stinebdneowhateveritis should have a similar slowdown too20:43
stinebdmaybe it goes like 400fps in donut20:43
JesusFreak316It doesn't though, for some reason.20:43
stinebdlame20:43
JesusFreak316I saw galaxy s phones only get ~40 fps in neocore.20:43
stinebdx2: i'm instituting a new channel rule20:44
stinebdnext person to complain about battery gets to donate a phone to phh20:44
x2haha20:44
JesusFreak316So, we're not getting 400 fps anytime soon. :)20:44
x2i could donate a raph800 to him20:44
x2dont have a keyboard for it though20:44
x2rest if fully functional.. its my parts phone20:44
JesusFreak316Honestly, with my phone in airplane mode most of the time and some wifi occasionally I am pretty satisfied with my battery life.20:45
x2lmao.. i use my phone though20:45
x23g has to be always on20:45
JesusFreak316Yeah I know.20:45
JesusFreak316*Can't afford stupid data plans*20:45
x2im still very happy dont get me wrong20:45
JesusFreak316One oddity though; for some reason, while my phone was plugged in 2 days ago it died completely. Wouldn't even get past the boot splash screen.20:47
JesusFreak316Any idea why it would suddenly stop charging? I know the charging indicator was messed up in one of the builds but I thought it still charged.20:48
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hamagcSo what's going on with battery20:57
hamagcLol20:57
hamagcDamn20:57
hamagcPhh doesn't want my phone though I already tried lol20:58
JesusFreak316Thought that's what you wanted. :P20:58
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jjpeaslyou around jesus?21:03
JesusFreak316Right here.21:04
stinebdhe's not actually jesus21:04
JesusFreak316*Needs to get used to people abbreviating my name as Jesus.*21:04
stinebdthat we know of21:04
JesusFreak316That's what I get for having such a long name.21:04
jjpeasllol, how are you guys tonight?21:04
JesusFreak316Pretty good.21:04
jjpeasljust a quick question the kernal update any good fixs in it?21:05
JesusFreak316Any specific issues you're thinking of?21:05
JesusFreak316Sound? ;)21:05
jjpeasllol that seems to be the only one so far that and the force close but in time i know all will work21:06
JesusFreak316stinebd: Is sound on rhodium a kernel or userland issue?21:06
stinebdJesusFreak316: kernel21:07
JesusFreak316So a phh issue then?21:08
stinebdnot really21:08
stinebdsomeone was working on it but he can't release his code21:08
JesusFreak316Why not?21:08
jjpeaslso the update might fix the sound21:08
stinebdhe used NDA documentation21:08
JesusFreak316Oh, that's no good.21:08
jjpeaslim installing the dual boot right now, i have to put that on the inturnal mem of the phone jesus?21:11
JesusFreak316I think so.21:11
jjpeaslok21:12
JesusFreak316You CAN use storage card but I think I ran into issues with it.21:12
jjpeaslam i gonna have to edit anything for it to run corret as far as where it locates the file because the herat is not on the root of my sd card21:15
JesusFreak316Where is it? There's a registry entry somewhere that you must edit.21:15
JesusFreak316http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=727688 btw21:16
jjpeaslin a folder called ANDBOOT21:16
JesusFreak316Ah, check the thread for the app; they describe it there, I believe.21:17
jjpeaslok21:17
JesusFreak316You have a registry editor on there?21:18
JesusFreak316What rom is she running, btw?21:18
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jjpeaslbrb ok21:21
stinebddear twitter followers21:22
stinebdi apologize for the obscure mega man picture21:22
JesusFreak316What is your twitter? I only just heard about your blog.21:22
stinebdhttp://twitter.com/boatransistor21:22
stinebdi talk about video games a little bit so some people may be offended21:22
JesusFreak316Uh, boatransistor? To each his own, I guess. :)21:23
stinebd(a video game reference)21:23
JesusFreak316Offended? Or just mad that it's not xdandroid?21:23
stinebdoffended that it's not xdandroid21:23
JesusFreak316Thought so.21:24
JesusFreak316Guess if you're a megaman fan you might appreciate that I'm currently playing through Metroid on my phone via Droid Emu. :)21:28
jjpeaslstinebd you have xbox360 or ps321:28
stinebdnope21:29
JesusFreak316PC gamer?21:29
stinebdnope21:29
JesusFreak316Wii?21:29
stinebdwii and ds21:29
JesusFreak316I got those and a pc.21:29
stinebdhuge nintendo fanboy21:29
JesusFreak316I want the 3ds sooo bad.21:29
JesusFreak316Me too.21:29
stinebdlikewise21:29
JesusFreak316I love Nintendo and Valve.21:29
jjpeaslshes running wm6.521:29
JesusFreak316Stock or custom rom?21:30
stinebdjjpeasl: you're the guy who snuck android on his woman's tilt2 right?21:30
JesusFreak316Just bought goldeneye 64 a month ago. :)21:30
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stinebdi don't like shooters at all but that is a classic21:30
JesusFreak316She knows about it now, right?21:30
JesusFreak316Man after my own heart.21:31
jjpeaslshes the one who wanted it on there lol21:31
JesusFreak316I like shooters but much prefer Zelda or Mario.21:31
stinebdoot3d will be the pinnacle of gaming history21:31
JesusFreak316So true. I hope they fix that one key in the water temple. Stupid rising block.21:32
jjpeaslstock rom21:32
JesusFreak316jjpeasl: you see the link I sent you for getting froyo on your g1?21:32
stinebduninteresting note. my vacation a couple weeks ago was to outer banks, nc. about a 10 hour drive with the stops we made. i played through all of OoT on the way down21:32
JesusFreak316Emulator?21:33
stinebdyeah21:33
stinebdwould've been tough to set up a tv and n64 in the car21:33
JesusFreak316Thought so, lol.21:33
jjpeaslyep bookmarked just gotta get a new battery for my phone, so using my nokia n85 for now missing the hell out of my android21:33
JesusFreak316Project 64?21:33
JesusFreak316If I can get a phone that emulates N64 almost perfectly I am perfectly satisfied.21:34
stinebdmupen64plus 1.9.something, for linux21:34
JesusFreak316I need to download that one too.21:35
stinebdi needed something that could do actionreplay codes21:35
stinebdbecause emulators have trouble with that game, the menu has like a 6 second pause every time you enter it21:35
stinebdso you need a code to work around it21:35
JesusFreak316Action Replay existed back then? I just remember gameshark.21:35
stinebdwell the codes are the same format, address+modification21:35
JesusFreak316True.21:35
stinebdthat code took about 15 minutes off the time of my practice run of water temple (damn iron boots)21:36
JesusFreak316I'm getting off to watch a movie; I'll be back later hopefully.21:36
JesusFreak316Hehe.21:36
jjpeaslhow do i edit the reg on her phone?21:36
stinebdhave fun21:36
JesusFreak316You too? So easy to say that at the wrong time.21:37
stinebdthere's never a wrong time21:37
JesusFreak316jjpeasl: You'll have to download a registry editor. Search xda.21:37
JesusFreak316But getting off now.21:37
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XirXesis it known that usb debuging works on the rhod if you conncet usb before running haret?\21:51
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jonpryHow is the speakerphone function implemented. I want to know what kernel functions it calls/how/where22:21
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XirXesyay. I was finally able to get telnet working for me. I had to use adb to forward the port over usb.23:01
XirXes does anyone know how to make it accept connections over wifi?23:01
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