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| ninjah_ | hey, my initial boot on a sprint touch pro of xdandroid is taking over an hour, should i kill it and try again? | 01:43 |
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| gladiac_ | yeah well it seems like it's not gonna work... | 02:05 |
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| x2 | sup guys | 02:52 |
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| aruneshmathur_ | Hi Everyone! | 03:23 |
| aruneshmathur_ | I'm Arunesh Mathur | 03:23 |
| aruneshmathur_ | I'd like to contribute to this project | 03:23 |
| aruneshmathur_ | could soneone help me setup the build? | 03:24 |
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| camel_ | morning @ all | 03:27 |
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| babijoee | phh: you around? | 08:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | No, I killed him. | 08:54 |
| babijoee | ah k | 08:54 |
| babijoee | then you'll have to be our main kernel dev now | 08:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | You sure about that? | 08:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'll end up making the phones self destruct. | 08:54 |
| babijoee | cool | 08:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | That would be awesome actually. | 08:55 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: then I have a reason to buy a samsung galaxy s :D | 08:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | I ment like, self destruct with a nuclear bomb sized explosion. | 08:56 |
| camel_ | phh: oli will contact you (he made a patch for "HTC HD - touchscreen bug: bad pointer values on touchscreen" | 08:56 |
| camel_ | and it is working great ... | 08:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hmm.. I seem to have an infection in my finger. | 08:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's like 4 times bigger then it should be. | 08:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | And leaking green stuff | 08:57 |
| cazh_ | Thats not a good thing | 08:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | It looks awesome though. | 08:57 |
| cazh_ | it's a bitch to type when you got a bad finger! | 08:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's the middle finger, I only use it for the letters QWEAS. | 08:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | But yea, It's painful lol | 08:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Was worse when I was gaming earlier. | 08:59 |
| cazh_ | How to fuck do you type :S | 08:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | Weirdly. | 08:59 |
| cazh_ | then left middle finger is 3edc :S | 08:59 |
| cazh_ | You don't say | 08:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | I use 3 fingers on my right hand and 2 on my left hand lol | 09:00 |
| cazh_ | By the way remeber my little crash on my motorcykel? | 09:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | and my thumbs. | 09:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yes. | 09:00 |
| babijoee | ummm even cooler | 09:00 |
| babijoee | you could be rich :) | 09:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'd be kidnapped in seconds. | 09:00 |
| cazh_ | Turns out that finger I kinda hurt a bit. Went to the emergency room after 2 days and they told me i was broken :P | 09:01 |
| babijoee | lol | 09:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 09:01 |
| babijoee | anyone here know which file controls the g-sensor | 09:02 |
| babijoee | i wanna tweak it | 09:02 |
| cazh_ | :P | 09:02 |
| babijoee | its not reaching max values and too slow | 09:02 |
| camel_ | does anyone know, how i can look at the boot message from kernel ? | 09:02 |
| babijoee | camel: not in logcat | 09:02 |
| babijoee | i meant through source | 09:02 |
| camel_ | will this be written to dmesg somewhere ? | 09:02 |
| TheDeadCPU | Does anyone know how to make the port perfect in just SECONDS?! | 09:02 |
| babijoee | oh | 09:03 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: | 09:03 |
| cazh_ | yes | 09:03 |
| babijoee | camel: you want to see logcat? | 09:03 |
| camel_ | because it is too fast scrolling ... | 09:03 |
| babijoee | oooo | 09:03 |
| babijoee | you want to log it? | 09:03 |
| camel_ | no, if haret will be startet and load the kernel ... | 09:03 |
| camel_ | yes ...would be fine ... | 09:03 |
| camel_ | i want to see the messages from kernel start | 09:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | There is a Legit PS3 Modchip USB out now. | 09:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | $169 | 09:06 |
| babijoee | hrmmm | 09:06 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: right... | 09:06 |
| babijoee | that would be desmg | 09:06 |
| babijoee | i think | 09:06 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: And does it enable you to play "backups" | 09:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yes | 09:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | And it's legit | 09:07 |
| babijoee | saw about that | 09:07 |
| camel_ | thanks - i will try ... | 09:07 |
| babijoee | on engadet | 09:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's been proven Legit now. | 09:07 |
| babijoee | yeah | 09:07 |
| camel_ | which dir ? | 09:07 |
| babijoee | ? | 09:07 |
| camel_ | dmesg | 09:07 |
| camel_ | in which dir is dmesg ? | 09:08 |
| camel_ | sorry | 09:09 |
| camel_ | cmd is inside .. | 09:09 |
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| babijoee | not sure | 09:12 |
| babijoee | i know you have to immediately load haret then quit | 09:12 |
| babijoee | it should pop up somewhere on your sd | 09:13 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: I'm still doubting that backup usb stick thingy | 09:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'm not lol | 09:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | Seen the latest video? | 09:13 |
| babijoee | cazh_: seems legit to me | 09:13 |
| camel_ | seems to be, that is use old parameter in startup.txt ... | 09:13 |
| camel_ | [ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `lcd.density=240': ignoring [ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `pmem.extra=1': ignoring | 09:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | OzModChips is trustable. | 09:13 |
| cazh_ | Yeah well people are good at making video | 09:13 |
| camel_ | lcd.density doesn'T exist anymore ? | 09:13 |
| camel_ | hmm ... | 09:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | Check this cazh_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IDaGne0u-4 | 09:14 |
| cazh_ | some people also claim it to be a debug/dev console | 09:14 |
| babijoee | its hardcoded in | 09:14 |
| babijoee | as in our startups | 09:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's apperantly something leaked from Sony cazh_. | 09:14 |
| babijoee | and pmem.extra setting not needed | 09:14 |
| babijoee | as its also hardcoded in too | 09:14 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: hmm okay a bit strange why sony would dev this dongle, but seen crazy shit like that before | 09:15 |
| babijoee | TheDeadCPU: dont be cheap :p suppport the devs | 09:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | babijoee, I test games, then buy. | 09:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | I do that for everything | 09:15 |
| babijoee | ah k | 09:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | If I like it it's worth paying for :p | 09:15 |
| babijoee | so u the guy who buys game then return them the next day :p | 09:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nah | 09:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | Not for PS3 lol | 09:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I pirate on my PC then if it isn't good I don't buy it | 09:16 |
| babijoee | ok | 09:16 |
| babijoee | lol | 09:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | On PS3 I just lend it, if it's good i buy it. | 09:16 |
| babijoee | i pirate for everything else besides ps3 | 09:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 09:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I do pirate music. | 09:16 |
| babijoee | ps3 needs to stay strong otherwise ggs to games | 09:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | And some software | 09:16 |
| babijoee | yeah | 09:17 |
| babijoee | i'm just a sony fanboy so i dont want to see the ps3 getting hacked | 09:17 |
| TheDeadCPU | Like, Sony Vegas Pro 'Cause it's way to expensive. | 09:17 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 09:17 |
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| cazh_ | babijoee: I'm a angry sony fanboy after all the stunts they pulled over time I hate them, but they still make so nice shit :P | 09:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | Lol | 09:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | I love my Playstation Mostly because of Gran Turismo God Of War And Ratchet And Clank. | 09:19 |
| babijoee | cazh_: such as? | 09:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | Little Big Planet. | 09:19 |
| cazh_ | Latest the other os option | 09:19 |
| babijoee | i <3 them for tekken series, final fantasy series and psp | 09:19 |
| babijoee | but then they didnt do exclusive anymore | 09:19 |
| babijoee | fuggn xbox | 09:19 |
| cazh_ | <3 FF <3 | 09:19 |
| * TheDeadCPU <3 Tekken<3 | 09:20 | |
| babijoee | i also really big fan of ssf4 atm | 09:20 |
| cazh_ | But I'm talking about sony general not just the ps3 which means i'm also pissed about that rootkit stunt they pulled | 09:20 |
| babijoee | rootkit for ps3? | 09:21 |
| cazh_ | nah windows | 09:21 |
| cazh_ | was quite a while ago | 09:21 |
| cazh_ | think it was some music cd, when you put it in the computer it installed a rootkit to prevent you from making copies of it | 09:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 09:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea | 09:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | My 360 just made a weird noise. | 09:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's not even on. | 09:22 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: does it make any other kind of noises beside weird? :P | 09:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | No | 09:23 |
| TheDeadCPU | Though My PS3 is all quiet and nice. | 09:24 |
| cazh_ | Anyways fuck you guys, I got a girl with F sizes tits asking me to come and get a beer with her, and the fact that I'm singel means that she is way more interesting than you guys :P | 09:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | You sure about that? | 09:24 |
| cazh_ | Yeah F Titties > XDAndroid | 09:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | And F? Sounds like she's just fat. Or inplants. Ugly wither way. | 09:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | Either* | 09:24 |
| cazh_ | I swear shes is not fat nor are they fake ;) | 09:25 |
| cazh_ | Belive me I've seen them live :D | 09:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | Then they're down on her knees when she's nekkid | 09:25 |
| cazh_ | Nope | 09:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | Ooo, talking about big boobs, Danish girl with DD's logged on | 09:25 |
| cazh_ | Again seen em live and they are good :D | 09:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | So fuck you guys. | 09:25 |
| cazh_ | Good luck with that :D | 09:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | Meh, She's Danish. Danish people are easy. | 09:26 |
| cazh_ | anyway <--- GONE! | 09:26 |
| cazh_ | TheDeadCPU: I'm really easy :P | 09:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | Rawr | 09:26 |
| babijoee | lol | 09:28 |
| NeoMatrixJR | **seen WisTilt2 | 09:29 |
| xdandroid | NeoMatrixJR: WisTilt2 was last seen in #xdandroid 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 12 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <WisTilt2> just time consuming stuff now | 09:29 |
| babijoee | you both have hand/arm injuries :p | 09:29 |
| babijoee | gl | 09:29 |
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| camel_ | after often do a reset tartup ?ten it happen, that ext2 is not ok ...where to adjust, that it will repaired on s | 09:38 |
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| camel_ | keyboard is hanging .. sorry ,. | 09:39 |
| camel_ | e2fsck doesn't work under android ... | 09:39 |
| camel_ | it hangs always... | 09:39 |
| camel_ | is there a startup parameter for auto-repair ? | 09:40 |
| camel_ | or tune2fs ? | 09:40 |
| babijoee | whats the problem camel_ | 09:56 |
| camel_ | after often reboot the device, the ext2 is not correct | 09:59 |
| camel_ | reset via HW reset | 09:59 |
| babijoee | ext2 not correct | 09:59 |
| babijoee | ? | 10:00 |
| babijoee | more specific | 10:00 |
| camel_ | so, i must connect to sdcard on linux | 10:00 |
| camel_ | and repair it via fsck | 10:00 |
| camel_ | this is normal, if android not umount the ext2 it could be happen, that there are lost inodes ... | 10:01 |
| camel_ | in dmesg .. i found ... | 10:01 |
| camel_ | [ 2.977416] mmcblk0: p1 p2 p3 [ 7.972808] EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended [ 7.996887] VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). [ 8.021392] Freeing init memory: 124K | 10:01 |
| camel_ | so, it won't automatically repaired ... | 10:01 |
| camel_ | now normally via tune2fs it could be set to check if not correct unmounted on last attempt .. | 10:02 |
| camel_ | or what can i do, that it check automatically the root ext2 partion ? | 10:02 |
| camel_ | or should it be possible to set it via tune2fs ? | 10:03 |
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| camel_ | well, i try now to set "tune2fs /dev/sdc2 -c 1" | 10:08 |
| camel_ | maybe this helps ... | 10:08 |
| babijoee | so your ext2 are getting corrupt? | 10:08 |
| camel_ | sometimes ... | 10:08 |
| camel_ | ex: if system crash | 10:09 |
| babijoee | so android wont boot? | 10:09 |
| camel_ | no ... | 10:09 |
| camel_ | it try to start the root, but then it hangs ... | 10:09 |
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| babijoee | hmmm not follwing :p | 10:10 |
| camel_ | then i must connect to linux the sdcard - and repair the ext2 | 10:10 |
| camel_ | then i can goon ... | 10:10 |
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| babijoee | it try to start the root? | 10:11 |
| camel_ | no, | 10:11 |
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| babijoee | i'm quoting you | 10:11 |
| camel_ | i start haret... then it load the kernel, and try to mount the root (ext2) (mmcblk0p2) | 10:11 |
| camel_ | then it hangs - basta | 10:11 |
| camel_ | so, the root (ext2) have failures .. | 10:12 |
| camel_ | then i go to pc - linux | 10:12 |
| camel_ | there the sdcard inserted | 10:12 |
| camel_ | then repair it there | 10:12 |
| babijoee | oh | 10:12 |
| babijoee | ok | 10:12 |
| camel_ | then i can put it back to device | 10:12 |
| babijoee | i get you now | 10:12 |
| camel_ | then i can boot normally | 10:12 |
| camel_ | but, why is e2fsck not repairing the root before it will be mounted ? | 10:13 |
| babijoee | hrmmm not sure why it isnt | 10:16 |
| babijoee | i'll check if it meant to | 10:16 |
| camel_ | ok | 10:18 |
| camel_ | thanks | 10:18 |
| babijoee | are you running neopeeks builds? | 10:19 |
| camel_ | yes | 10:19 |
| camel_ | but this is on kernel | 10:20 |
| camel_ | before the root is mounted .. | 10:20 |
| camel_ | otherwise it wouldn'T work | 10:20 |
| camel_ | fsck on mounted system is not the best idea ... | 10:20 |
| camel_ | so it is before the init script starts .. | 10:20 |
| babijoee | when you say root | 10:20 |
| babijoee | you mean ext2 partition at mmcblk0p2/ | 10:21 |
| camel_ | yes | 10:21 |
| babijoee | ? | 10:21 |
| babijoee | ok | 10:21 |
| camel_ | well, the best message of the day is: that oli had fixed the touchscreen bug on HTC HD :) | 10:21 |
| babijoee | well | 10:25 |
| babijoee | it doesn't seem to mount system onto mmcblk2 | 10:26 |
| babijoee | from what i'm reading | 10:26 |
| camel_ | no the mount works .. | 10:27 |
| camel_ | but , then it hangs ... (maybe it can't access an important file) on booting ... | 10:27 |
| babijoee | from what i'm reading it not programmed to e2fsck mmcblk2 anyway | 10:27 |
| camel_ | not sure - how mit will be handled in kernel ... | 10:31 |
| camel_ | hmm - maybe this is part related and this is saved on partition (via tool tune2fs) | 10:32 |
| babijoee | camel: this isn't kernel | 10:33 |
| camel_ | i think so - this is on the partion - done via tune2fs ... | 10:33 |
| camel_ | i wil keep an eye on it ... | 10:33 |
| babijoee | its not :p | 10:33 |
| camel_ | for now i set: tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sdc2 | 10:34 |
| camel_ | so, it mean, on every mount-count >= 1 then do a check of device | 10:34 |
| babijoee | not following again :p | 10:35 |
| babijoee | maybe stinebd will understand | 10:35 |
| camel_ | do you know command: tune2fs ? | 10:36 |
| camel_ | http://www.netadmintools.com/html/tune2fs.man.html | 10:36 |
| camel_ | see parameter c | 10:36 |
| camel_ | anyhow ... i will test it .. | 10:37 |
| babijoee | ok | 10:37 |
| babijoee | i understand what you want to do | 10:37 |
| babijoee | but i dont get why | 10:37 |
| babijoee | its weird that your ext2 partition gets corrupt/errors after booting | 10:38 |
| babijoee | is it after every boot? | 10:38 |
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| camel_ | @all: does anyone have an idea, where the "green button" mapping is set ? | 11:55 |
| camel_ | because i'm not sure, and don't want to start froms caratch, but my screen key does make "right cursor" function if i press it .. | 11:56 |
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| hamagc | good morning peoples | 12:01 |
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| hamagc | http://www.xda-developers.com/android/patched-gallery3d-for-higher-resolution/ | 12:08 |
| hamagc | don't know if it's of any interest to us but we use the 3d gallary | 12:09 |
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| sle118 | hamagc: good morning! | 12:49 |
| hamagc | good morning sle118 | 12:49 |
| sle118 | I am sitting on a couch, somewhere in the Golf of St-Laurence | 12:50 |
| sle118 | have I missed anything interesting? | 12:50 |
| hamagc | lol not too much. yesterday the devs got shutdown working. | 12:50 |
| hamagc | new system build released yesterday | 12:51 |
| sle118 | babijoee wrote something about camera... | 12:51 |
| hamagc | or released today, depending on where you are i guess | 12:51 |
| hamagc | ya, he removed the camera apk from the build as it is currently not needed | 12:51 |
| hamagc | still waiting on bzo to release what he has for camera | 12:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's funny that shutdown thing, Stinebd's raph110 apperantly started up again after a while. on it's own. | 12:52 |
| hamagc | haven't heard from him in a bit so i'm hoping that he has something good cooking | 12:52 |
| hamagc | lol ya i read that in the logs | 12:52 |
| hamagc | randomly like 4 hours later, just started up. | 12:52 |
| hamagc | can't imagine thats android unless it's not really shutting down and just appears to be or something. | 12:52 |
| hamagc | thats like a wake on lan command or something i'm sure lol | 12:53 |
| hamagc | so my buddy got the galaxy s yesterday "vibrant?" | 12:53 |
| hamagc | nice phone but no front camera. was kinda dissappointed | 12:54 |
| sle118 | hamagc: I just re-read the irc logs... looks like babijoee was being sarcastic... "we fixed camera with the help of harry potter" | 12:54 |
| hamagc | oh that, lol ya | 12:54 |
| hamagc | on xda he mentioned taking out the apk on the 8/19 build | 12:54 |
| sle118 | "v" | 12:54 |
| sle118 | ok | 12:54 |
| sle118 | I will check the release logs and see if it's worth the upgrade | 12:55 |
| Firon | if you just want shutdown, the new kernel alone should do it :P | 12:55 |
| hamagc | what system are you on? | 12:55 |
| hamagc | all it is is some tweaks and stuff removed afaik | 12:56 |
| |Jeroen| | did who had exchange probs test it the new build fixes it ? | 12:57 |
| sle118 | DIAM500 | 12:57 |
| sle118 | it's "fairely" stable right now | 12:58 |
| sle118 | there was one app that made the system crash periodically (many times an hour) in the userland.... when I needed the navigation the most | 12:58 |
| sle118 | I ended up renaming data.img and got navigation statble | 12:59 |
| sle118 | I have an eventlog, but can't find what was wrong | 13:00 |
| sle118 | there is a few am_kill right before the reboot | 13:02 |
| sle118 | like this | 13:02 |
| sle118 | 08-18 09:24:16.030 I/am_kill (1253)[2234,com.svox.pico,14,too many background] 08-18 09:24:16.050 I/am_proc_died(1253)[2234,com.svox.pico] | 13:02 |
| sle118 | pico being text to speech, I guess this process was spawn by navigation | 13:04 |
| sle118 | gsm_rat_switched | 13:06 |
| sle118 | there was also this log line | 13:06 |
| sle118 | gsm_rat_switched(1332)[-1,2,3] | 13:06 |
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| pichardo7 | hi | 13:07 |
| pichardo7 | i have a question with xdandroid | 13:08 |
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| pichardo7 | any one have configure diamond cdma vercion with iusacell mexico?? | 13:09 |
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| camel_ | sorry, dummy question: for what do i need the initrd ? | 13:39 |
| camel_ | it is also working without it ... | 13:39 |
| camel_ | could this be ? | 13:39 |
| camel_ | the initrd is normally for init of devices ... but why is it working without it ... | 13:40 |
| camel_ | ? | 13:40 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | babijoee, that new API is in the TweetDeck beta. for Desktop. Only if invited by TwetDeck for it :p | 13:40 |
| camel_ | phh; when do you make a PUSH of new kernel ? | 13:41 |
| camel_ | (waiting for the touchscreen patch in kernel...) | 13:41 |
| phh | when I've emptied my mailbox and rssbox. | 13:41 |
| camel_ | - hehe | 13:41 |
| camel_ | ok :) | 13:41 |
| camel_ | thanks | 13:42 |
| babijoee | oo | 13:42 |
| babijoee | never used ut | 13:43 |
| babijoee | it* | 13:43 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | heh | 13:45 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Though the TweetDeck client for Android is SWEET | 13:45 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Best twitter client for android imo. | 13:45 |
| hamagc | better than the twitter app? | 13:47 |
| hamagc | lol i don't get it | 13:47 |
| hamagc | guess i better look at it | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | It's beta though | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I can link you to it | 13:47 |
| hamagc | k | 13:47 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | https://s3.amazonaws.com/downloads.tweetdeck.com/android_beta/TweetDeck-0.9.4.apk | 13:48 |
| hamagc | i love the chrome to phone thingy on firefox :) | 13:51 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Blasphemy. | 13:52 |
| hamagc | lol | 13:52 |
| hamagc | doh but i need usb for that. | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Not on Chrome :D | 13:52 |
| hamagc | no? | 13:52 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Also, I kinda hate FireFox. But I love minefield lol | 13:52 |
| hamagc | shutdown is broken again :( | 13:53 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | It goes via your Google account on Chrome.. | 13:53 |
| hamagc | i'm going to have to log that to see whats breaking it. worked before is set my new system up | 13:53 |
| hamagc | firefox does the same, atleast it makes me log in | 13:53 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 13:53 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | The TweetDeck app for Android makes more tweets per week then the iPad one has done in 3 months. | 13:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | And is cathing up on the iPhone one. | 13:55 |
| hamagc | ohh weird errors~!! | 13:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | And it's BETA. | 13:56 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Errors<3 | 13:56 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | no wait. | 13:56 |
| hamagc | warning: at kernal/irq/manage.c:180 _enable_irq+0x3c/0x6c() | 13:56 |
| hamagc | unbalanced enable for IRQ 106 | 13:57 |
| hamagc | and a lot of other stufrf | 13:57 |
| hamagc | when it says logger: created 64k log 'log_main' | 13:58 |
| hamagc | where are those stored? | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | in your mind. | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | It's all a dream. | 13:58 |
| hamagc | lol | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | OR IS IT? SD: | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | D:* | 13:58 |
| hamagc | i don't dream irq errors, thats phh lol | 13:58 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 13:58 |
| phh | I don't either. | 13:58 |
| hamagc | you don;t?!? | 13:59 |
| phh | really | 13:59 |
| hamagc | do you dream kernal warnings? | 13:59 |
| phh | no, i've never dreamt of geek stuff | 13:59 |
| hamagc | lol smart man. any idea on the error? | 13:59 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | phh, doesn't dream. | 13:59 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | He doesn't sleep. | 14:00 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: mostly :/ | 14:00 |
| phh | here | 14:00 |
| phh | yes I do sleep | 14:00 |
| phh | s/here/err/ | 14:00 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I haven't remembered any of my dreams for like 2 years. | 14:00 |
| hamagc | it's a stoner thing. we never remember our dreams | 14:00 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Oh. | 14:01 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Well that explains it. | 14:01 |
| phh | I did this morning | 14:01 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Congrats. | 14:01 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | You want a cookie? | 14:01 |
| hamagc | cookie!??!? | 14:01 |
| phh | camel_: done | 14:02 |
| camel_ | ui, great ... | 14:03 |
| camel_ | i will test this also | 14:03 |
| hamagc | i don't see logs :( | 14:04 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | When will the new Gmail app come with XDAndroid? | 14:04 |
| hamagc | new? | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Yea, new. | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | 2.2.1 or somthing | 14:05 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: install it by yourself ? | 14:05 |
| phh | but someone will have to explain me where this comes from | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I have lol | 14:05 |
| camel_ | phh: normally should be biuld in 10min ... | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Also, the new Gmail app only has some UI "improvements" and such | 14:06 |
| camel_ | phh: do you mean "explain" the touch screen bug ? | 14:06 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | What day is it today? lol | 14:09 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Aaah, Thursday. | 14:09 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Creating a new data store. | 14:12 |
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20100819_200730) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100819_200730-package.tar.bz2 | 14:17 |
| hamagc | stupid android and stupid case sensitive terminal lol | 14:18 |
| hamagc | spent 10 minutes trying to remove voicesearch.apk only to be told it isn't there. | 14:18 |
| hamagc | only to find that it's VoiceSearch.apk | 14:18 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Evrything *nix is case sensetive. | 14:19 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | At least all *nix terminals | 14:19 |
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| hamagc | ok i have a logcat of shutdown when it freezes | 14:28 |
| hamagc | but i can't copy paste so i took a screenshot | 14:28 |
| hamagc | http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n115/hamagc/android%20debug/logcat.jpg | 14:30 |
| hamagc | hopefully helpful | 14:30 |
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| hamagc | ok tweetdeck is cool but no widget support. only reason i like the twitter app is so i can have the widget on one of my screens. | 15:01 |
| hamagc | hopefully newer versions will support widget and myspace | 15:01 |
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| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | The Widget should be out in the start of next week. | 15:02 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | beginning of next week* | 15:03 |
| hamagc | nice | 15:03 |
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| hamagc | ok http://pastebin.com/pKRhdeUW | 15:56 |
| hamagc | thats radio log when mms comes in. it comes in (3g icon goes to edge for a split second) but no actual msg comes in. | 15:56 |
| hamagc | my hopes lie with you phh | 15:56 |
| phh | mmmmmmmmmmmmm ? | 15:57 |
| hamagc | cdma mms. apn setup allows me to send mms but won't receive | 15:57 |
| hamagc | all i get is the 3g icon changing that lets me know it got the msg that there is an mms | 15:58 |
| hamagc | but it never retrieves it or something | 15:58 |
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| hamagc | Getting MMS reception to work actually shouldn't be all that hard... an MMS on CDMA should just be an SMS message header that says, in computer-ease, "you have a new MMS message, with message ID xyz" Then we should be able to tell the app to go get it by translating that header to the equivalent header that comes from GSM. | 16:13 |
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| * hamagc bangs head on wall | 16:53 | |
| hamagc | so i have an libhtcgeneric-ril.so that apparently allows mms incoming on the vogue but i don't know where the source is to see whats in it | 16:54 |
| hamagc | and if i just try to throw that into my system, it breaks my data alltogether | 16:54 |
| hamagc | breaks my radio | 16:54 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I just did the Death Grip on my Desire. | 16:54 |
| hamagc | lol did it lose signal? | 16:54 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Though I dunno what I did 'Cause I can't reproduce it. | 16:54 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Yes. | 16:55 |
| hamagc | lol were you holding the power button down? | 16:55 |
| hamagc | :p | 16:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 16:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | No | 16:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I was holding it. | 16:55 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I can only reproduce it if I use both my arms and thies. And then I only loose 1 bar. | 16:58 |
| hamagc | lol it's no apple | 16:59 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 16:59 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | holy shit | 17:03 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | One of my friends gf just got hit by a car. | 17:03 |
| hamagc | thats never good | 17:04 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Nope. | 17:04 |
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| stinebd | (re gp4 disabling a bunch of crap) [05:31:22] <phh> TS doesn't use I2C. <<< well dmesg shows a ton of i2c errors, and touch screen is one of the things that stops working (but the panel itself stays alive) | 17:06 |
| phh | ok | 17:06 |
| stinebd | i shouldn't say a ton | 17:07 |
| stinebd | 12 or so | 17:07 |
| stinebd | battery life was no better with all the safe vregs disabled | 17:07 |
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| phh | damn | 17:10 |
| hamagc | damn | 17:11 |
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| stinebd | so what else can i try echo 0 >ing into | 17:14 |
| hamagc | lol wtf? sprint is trying to tell me that my tp is not compatible for picture mail | 17:16 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 17:16 |
| stinebd | tell them that stinebd said it is | 17:16 |
| stinebd | that'll shut em up | 17:16 |
| stinebd | before they ask "who?" | 17:16 |
| hamagc | Yes. your device can only get the link you can not open picture mail on it as it is not compatible. | 17:16 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | It's because it's an American carrier. | 17:17 |
| stinebd | and cdma | 17:17 |
| stinebd | evil, evil cdma | 17:17 |
| hamagc | that must be it | 17:17 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | And cdma. | 17:17 |
| hamagc | american carrier+cdma+customer support=fail | 17:17 |
| stinebd | hamagc + rage = kaboom | 17:18 |
| stinebd | you wouldn't like hamagc when he's angry | 17:18 |
| hamagc | atleast with a forign carrier, when you call tech support, your speaking with someone from your region. here we call tech support and get some forign person who has no idea what language your speaking | 17:18 |
| stinebd | you're a he right? | 17:18 |
| hamagc | lol yes i'm a he | 17:18 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | If you call tech support in Norway you end up talking to a Swede. | 17:19 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Damn Swedes. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | hah | 17:19 |
| stinebd | i'd love it if peter forsberg helped me troubleshoot | 17:20 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | If they patched me to a Dane like cazh_ I would be fine. But Swedes.. no. | 17:20 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | You want a ice hockey player to help you troubleshoot? | 17:20 |
| hamagc | 2:17:31 PM : Nicole G: One moment please. | 17:21 |
| hamagc | 2:20:06 PM : Nicole G: Thank you for your time. | 17:21 |
| hamagc | 2:20:41 PM : Nicole G: Your handset can get only that web link. Your handset is not compatible for opening the picture on your phone. | 17:21 |
| hamagc | 2:20:50 PM : Josh Walton: on the htc touch pro | 17:21 |
| hamagc | 2:20:55 PM : Josh Walton: ppc6850 | 17:21 |
| hamagc | 2:20:56 PM : Nicole G: Yes. | 17:21 |
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| stinebd | oh god you forgot to censor your name | 17:21 |
| stinebd | now we all know you're nicole | 17:21 |
| hamagc | bah | 17:21 |
| hamagc | lol! | 17:21 |
| stinebd | ppc6850? | 17:21 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | DAMN | 17:22 |
| stinebd | oh wow | 17:22 |
| stinebd | i didn't know they have actual model numbers | 17:22 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 17:22 |
| hamagc | she came back and called it the rec6850sp1 | 17:22 |
| hamagc | we have service packs? | 17:23 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | I thought it was T7272 | 17:23 |
| stinebd | hardware service packs | 17:23 |
| hamagc | 7272=tp2 | 17:23 |
| stinebd | take this chip and tape it to the phone's chassis | 17:23 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Umm.. my TP box says T7272 | 17:23 |
| stinebd | this is why they shouldn't bother with model numbers | 17:24 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | lol | 17:24 |
| hamagc | heh 7272 is raph100 | 17:25 |
| hamagc | oh, tp2 is 7373 | 17:25 |
| stinebd | not confusing at all | 17:25 |
| hamagc | lol | 17:25 |
| hamagc | this is why i can't figure out why i can't get a job with sprint's tech support | 17:26 |
| stinebd | because you don't live in tibet | 17:26 |
| hamagc | if they want mindless idiots, i can do it! | 17:26 |
| hamagc | lol very true | 17:26 |
| hamagc | and because i'm white | 17:26 |
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| TheDeadCPU | What's up Josh? | 17:32 |
| hamagc | whats up? | 17:37 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 17:37 |
| TheDeadCPU | I just watched a video of someone puking. It was auto-tuned. | 17:38 |
| hamagc | lol wasn't sure if you were talking to me or the joschi guy | 17:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 17:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | Well I do know your name now. | 17:39 |
| stinebd | facebook stalker | 17:39 |
| hamagc | lol just don't tell walmart, they might want me to model underwear or something | 17:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, I've not been on Facebook in like 4 months. | 17:39 |
| hamagc | brb | 17:42 |
| hamagc | k | 17:52 |
| hamagc | well that didn't work | 17:56 |
| hamagc | back to pming dzo | 17:56 |
| hamagc | even though he never responds to me | 17:57 |
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| hamagc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7088496&postcount=73 | 18:14 |
| hamagc | does this do anything for us? | 18:14 |
| hamagc | http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=androidhtc/device-vogue.git;a=commitdiff;h=08cf14d86a24e669df247994e5c8a22fcc3aeb83 | 18:15 |
| hamagc | lol i have dzo ril source from feb. 09 | 18:27 |
| hamagc | i don't think that will help us though :( | 18:27 |
| hamagc | "The cdma sms code is not open source so can you keep that part to yourself, the rest you can do what you like with. Let me know if you make any changes, some of the gsm code was just a quick hack, in particular the registration code doesn't work." | 18:28 |
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| TheDeadCPU | FPS gamers are against abortions.. Nobody likes to be spawnkilled. | 18:29 |
| * hamagc laughs out loud | 18:30 | |
| * TheDeadCPU Is proud. | 18:32 | |
| phh | LOL | 18:33 |
| stinebd | phh: did bzo send you his camera work yet? | 18:34 |
| phh | hu ? | 18:34 |
| phh | what work ? | 18:34 |
| phh | oh for vogue ? | 18:34 |
| stinebd | the mt sensor init | 18:34 |
| phh | mt sensor init is fine | 18:35 |
| stinebd | he had to enable some vregs for it | 18:35 |
| phh | hum no vreg for us | 18:35 |
| phh | just gpios | 18:35 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Vregs | 18:35 |
| stinebd | gp2,gp3,gp4,wlan | 18:36 |
| stinebd | i don't remember putting that there | 18:36 |
| stinebd | but it's good i did | 18:36 |
| phh | that's definitely not for us | 18:36 |
| stinebd | who then? | 18:37 |
| hamagc | bzo not dzo | 18:37 |
| hamagc | confusing i know | 18:37 |
| phh | hamagc: ......... | 18:37 |
| phh | thanks. | 18:37 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:37 |
| phh | ok, did he mention a board ? | 18:37 |
| TheDeadCPU | Also, how the hell did the HD2 port get such good batterylife? | 18:37 |
| stinebd | raph100 iirc | 18:37 |
| hamagc | if i'm not mistaken i think bzo is working off of a raph800 | 18:37 |
| hamagc | but could be raph100 | 18:37 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU: everything is done in AMSS. | 18:37 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:37 |
| stinebd | i'm going through the backlog on #htc-linux | 18:37 |
| phh | hamagc: 800 | 18:37 |
| phh | but he also has a rhod :p | 18:38 |
| hamagc | yes | 18:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | phh, Amplitude modulation signalling system? | 18:38 |
| hamagc | same camera no? | 18:38 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU: -_-' | 18:38 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU: radio. | 18:38 |
| phh | hamagc: yes, but completly different init | 18:38 |
| stinebd | AM radio :D | 18:38 |
| hamagc | grr | 18:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | YAY FOR AM :D | 18:38 |
| phh | A9. | 18:38 |
| phh | no, it's just amss. | 18:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | We don't even have AM radio in Norway. | 18:39 |
| stinebd | [16:57:38] <bzo> phh, stinebd: about vreg stuff, from my camera testing I traced gp3, gp1, wlan, gp2 being used to power camera on the diam500. | 18:39 |
| stinebd | lol | 18:39 |
| stinebd | i was off by one | 18:39 |
| stinebd | on all of them | 18:39 |
| hamagc | diam500, i was way off lol | 18:39 |
| hamagc | had a feeling it was cdma something | 18:39 |
| phh | hamagc: "or raph100". | 18:39 |
| stinebd | so gp1, gp2, gp3 and wlan | 18:40 |
| stinebd | so anyway | 18:40 |
| stinebd | diam ~= raph? | 18:40 |
| phh | gsm diam ~= gsm raph | 18:40 |
| stinebd | oh poo | 18:40 |
| hamagc | no poo | 18:41 |
| stinebd | this information would be in vendor documentation right? | 18:41 |
| stinebd | so all i have to do is corporate espionage to find the rest | 18:41 |
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| stinebd | oh crap, this channel is logged | 18:42 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:42 |
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| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | What did I miss? D: | 18:43 |
| hamagc | <stinebd> oh crap, this channel is logged | 18:44 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:44 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | before that lol | 18:45 |
| hamagc | oh lol you'll need to visit the logs for that. there was some talk on camera | 18:45 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Espionage part maybe? | 18:46 |
| hamagc | wtf? | 18:49 |
| * hamagc is shocked! | 18:49 | |
| hamagc | tps got nand? | 18:49 |
| hamagc | tp2* | 18:49 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Rly? | 18:50 |
| phh | yes | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Me wants too. | 18:50 |
| hamagc | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=131590 | 18:50 |
| hamagc | i blame htc | 18:51 |
| hamagc | too many tp1's had issues and everyone got a tp2 as a replacement | 18:51 |
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| stinebd | i blame android | 19:02 |
| stinebd | too many real android devices being sold | 19:02 |
| hamagc | that too, why make a build when i can just buy a device. psh i say psh! | 19:06 |
| hamagc | bah i'm going home | 19:09 |
| hamagc | good night guys, monyana | 19:09 |
| hamagc | or something like that | 19:09 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | wait...what's this about TP2 and nand? | 19:21 |
| stinebd | tp2 has nand in it. and that nand may or may not contain an android system. | 19:22 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | You can install XDAndroid to Nand on the TP2. | 19:22 |
| NeoMatrixJR | wipes winmo off right? can winmo be restored? | 19:23 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | You can just reflash. | 19:23 |
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| phh | TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: yeah not reallyt | 19:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | found thread. no charging? not awesome | 19:24 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | O'rly? | 19:24 |
| phh | TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: just the kernel :p | 19:24 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | Oh lol. | 19:24 |
| phh | no real dev cares about putting actual android to nand | 19:24 |
| stinebd | we should ask jonpry | 19:24 |
| stinebd | maybe he could wrap the wince kernel.dll | 19:25 |
| phh | lolwat ? | 19:25 |
| stinebd | :D | 19:25 |
| phh | what's the link ? | 19:25 |
| stinebd | we'd end up with some kind of winece | 19:25 |
| stinebd | (i'm being sarcastic again) | 19:26 |
| stinebd | my phone hasn't turned itself back on again yet | 19:26 |
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| phh | :( | 19:27 |
| phh | that was funny though | 19:28 |
| stinebd | it was, i thought a demon did it | 19:28 |
| stinebd | and it was like 2.5 hours after i shut it down | 19:28 |
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| bmnbmn | <phh> no real dev cares about putting actual android to nand | 19:37 |
| bmnbmn | why is that? | 19:37 |
| phh | no point ? | 19:37 |
| phh | stinebd: we could make that as a feature though | 19:38 |
| stinebd | very difficult | 19:38 |
| stinebd | hah | 19:38 |
| phh | android to nand very difficult ? | 19:38 |
| phh | not at all | 19:38 |
| phh | just not easily maintainable. | 19:38 |
| stinebd | without winmo? | 19:38 |
| phh | yeah | 19:38 |
| phh | for systems on which we already have kernel booting I mean | 19:38 |
| stinebd | we'd need a bootloader and all that crap wouldn't we? | 19:39 |
| phh | yeah that works on TP2. | 19:39 |
| phh | we boot zImage from SPL on TP2 now | 19:39 |
| stinebd | backport to tp ktnx | 19:39 |
| phh | well nothing had to be done on TP2 actually. | 19:39 |
| phh | and doing nothing didn't work on TD :p | 19:39 |
| stinebd | all the init was working? | 19:40 |
| phh | well some devices doesn't boot, and usb was crashing | 19:40 |
| phh | but that's it. | 19:40 |
| stinebd | crazy | 19:40 |
| phh | someone will have to tell spotify we might have an internet connection in airplane mode. | 19:41 |
| phh | anyway, time to sleep | 19:41 |
| stinebd | night | 19:41 |
| stinebd | i look forward to our next session of you ridiculing stupid things i say | 19:41 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | phh, It's only like 01:42 AM. | 19:42 |
| bmnbmn | theres no benefit of putting android on nand? | 19:44 |
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| jjpeasl | hello | 21:05 |
| TheDeadCPU|BRAVO | *hides* | 21:06 |
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| jjpeasl | can someone help me with installing xdandroid on my htc tilt2, i have installed everything and all seems well, but once i run the android sys, in the start up it asks u to log in to google or create an account i can not do any of this because my phone doesnt have service. | 21:07 |
| jjpeasl | i have tried to add the att apn but for some reason it doesnt save. | 21:09 |
| Unholy | you can skip that setup | 21:12 |
| Unholy | there is a skip button | 21:12 |
| heavymetalmage | it won't save if you change the mcc or mnc setting | 21:13 |
| heavymetalmage | it should automatically detect your apn for at&t | 21:13 |
| jjpeasl | have gotten past the login for google but still dont have service, am tring to a factory restore to the phone and gonna try to reinstall on the sd, thinking maybe there was a conflict some where | 21:16 |
| jjpeasl | if that doesnt work anyone have any ideas | 21:17 |
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| jjpeasl | even with the factory restore ive come to find out that the internet isnt working on my htc tilt2 running windows can someone direct me to a forum that might help me fix this? | 21:26 |
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| reverendkjr | hey jjpeasl, i read your question from the log. | 21:50 |
| reverendkjr | did you get an answer yet? | 21:50 |
| jjpeasl | no sir | 21:52 |
| stinebd | jjpeasl: check your startup.txt. if you see force_cdma=1 in the cmdline, remove it | 21:52 |
| reverendkjr | darn. that was my answer too. | 21:52 |
| stinebd | suuuuure it was | 21:52 |
| reverendkjr | :p | 21:53 |
| jjpeasl | and i have to do that in the wm rom? | 21:53 |
| reverendkjr | are you having problems in winmo 2? | 21:53 |
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| stinebd | startup.txt is on the sd card | 21:54 |
| jjpeasl | one sec rebooting phone, i think i was having problems in wm with the data | 21:54 |
| reverendkjr | winmo data doesn't affect android data, but if neither works... | 21:54 |
| reverendkjr | the problem may be bigger | 21:54 |
| stinebd | att counts as bigger | 21:54 |
| reverendkjr | :) | 21:54 |
| jjpeasl | lol no :) but :( i myself have a tmoble g1 and am trying to get my gf phone over to the android network | 21:55 |
| jjpeasl | is there a program i should use to edit the startup.txt? | 21:56 |
| reverendkjr | notepad | 21:56 |
| jjpeasl | and i can do this from the phone? | 21:56 |
| reverendkjr | in winmo, just click on the txt | 21:56 |
| reverendkjr | be sure to save your work when you are done | 21:56 |
| reverendkjr | i said click...silly me. | 21:57 |
| stinebd | my fingers click | 21:57 |
| reverendkjr | you should get that checked out | 21:58 |
| jjpeasl | ok that was there deleted, whats next please? | 21:59 |
| stinebd | boot into android | 21:59 |
| reverendkjr | reboot | 21:59 |
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| stinebd | one day you'll outwit me | 22:00 |
| jjpeasl | so click on the haret file? or the android in the programs? | 22:00 |
| stinebd | oh wait, that's every day | 22:00 |
| stinebd | haret | 22:00 |
| stinebd | android in programs? | 22:00 |
| Unholy | stinebd:he probly uses the cab installation | 22:00 |
| jjpeasl | well it installed a short cut | 22:00 |
| stinebd | oh | 22:01 |
| reverendkjr | hey, i want an android in my programs. | 22:01 |
| stinebd | patches welcome | 22:01 |
| jjpeasl | lol | 22:01 |
| reverendkjr | someone build that in! | 22:01 |
| jjpeasl | still no service | 22:02 |
| reverendkjr | any icons on status bar? | 22:02 |
| jjpeasl | yep an X | 22:02 |
| reverendkjr | settings? | 22:03 |
| jjpeasl | can get to them | 22:03 |
| reverendkjr | why not? | 22:03 |
| jjpeasl | theres nothing listed in the apns listing | 22:03 |
| Unholy | jjpeasl: i really recommend too not use the cab install, and just do it the normal way | 22:04 |
| stinebd | i didn't even know there is a cab | 22:04 |
| reverendkjr | i've never tried it. looked too spooky. | 22:05 |
| Unholy | ye blackstone and rhod have cab installs if im nto mistaken | 22:05 |
| jjpeasl | i used a zip file xdandroid,21,6,10 | 22:05 |
| Unholy | and one of my donut builds too, but i only did it once | 22:05 |
| reverendkjr | that explains the android icon | 22:05 |
| stinebd | jjpeasl: i suggest the new froyo system instead | 22:06 |
| Unholy | jjpseal: whats the content of the zip package | 22:06 |
| jjpeasl | can u send link | 22:06 |
| stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 22:07 |
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| jjpeasl | 4 folders 1 androidapps 2 conf 3 media 4 statup config than two zip files 1 intinrd.gz 2 modules then haret.exe , rootfs.img , system.ext2 , zImage | 22:08 |
| stinebd | you'll want the latest full package, http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.29.7.10.RC2.1.7z | 22:08 |
| stinebd | and you'll also want http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.19.8.10.system.ext2.7z | 22:09 |
| stinebd | which is the latest system image | 22:09 |
| stinebd | as well as latest rootfs, initrd and kernel | 22:09 |
| jjpeasl | ok downloading bothing files, | 22:10 |
| jjpeasl | can i just delete my sd card or should i reformat | 22:11 |
| Unholy | just delete your old android files | 22:11 |
| Unholy | start from scratch with the files stinebd linked | 22:11 |
| reverendkjr | i say reformat. | 22:12 |
| reverendkjr | just in case | 22:12 |
| Unholy | iv never had to reformat, but it woudent hurt | 22:12 |
| stinebd | you didnt have to reformat from eclair to froyo? | 22:12 |
| jjpeasl | i know its a fat32 format | 22:12 |
| stinebd | oh that reformat | 22:12 |
| reverendkjr | i keep killing cards, so i reformat constantly | 22:12 |
| stinebd | killing how? | 22:13 |
| reverendkjr | i'm not sure why they die on me all of the time | 22:13 |
| reverendkjr | just bought a new 4gb class 4 | 22:13 |
| reverendkjr | $15 at Staples | 22:13 |
| jjpeasl | are you guys from the states? | 22:13 |
| stinebd | i'm from one of them | 22:13 |
| jjpeasl | lol | 22:13 |
| reverendkjr | I am in Cincinnati, Ohio. | 22:13 |
| reverendkjr | isn't everyone in the states? :p | 22:14 |
| jjpeasl | i was thinking some of the ppl i might get help from would be named abu lol | 22:14 |
| Unholy | that sucks iv have my 8gb san diskc lass 4 for like 2 years now | 22:14 |
| Unholy | disk* | 22:14 |
| reverendkjr | what brand? | 22:14 |
| Unholy | san disk | 22:14 |
| reverendkjr | gotcha. i see that now. | 22:14 |
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| stinebd | i'm on the same 2gb old school microsd that i've had since they maxed out regular microsd | 22:14 |
| reverendkjr | i think its my winmo doing it. | 22:15 |
| jjpeasl | ok folders are down loaded witch one do i install on the sd first?" | 22:15 |
| reverendkjr | sometimes it wont recognize it, then i reformat and it works again | 22:15 |
| stinebd | 2.2.AOSP.blahblah first (the big package) | 22:15 |
| Unholy | i had a 32mb duo from way back when psp cameout | 22:15 |
| stinebd | then do the system.ext2 | 22:16 |
| stinebd | then do each of these http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 22:16 |
| stinebd | (hooray documentation!) | 22:16 |
| reverendkjr | i was just going to post a link to xda forum | 22:17 |
| jjpeasl | do i install first then update with the system folder? | 22:17 |
| reverendkjr | to post 4 on main xdandroid post | 22:17 |
| stinebd | but the docs are in english | 22:18 |
| reverendkjr | http:/translate.google.com | 22:18 |
| jjpeasl | the sys file do i install that before putting sd card in phone? | 22:18 |
| reverendkjr | 0_o | 22:18 |
| stinebd | do all of it before putting the sdcard in the phone | 22:19 |
| stinebd | you're manipulating the sd card yourself | 22:19 |
| stinebd | all those other files replace files that were in the first one, with updated versions | 22:19 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 22:19 |
| jjpeasl | in the update there was only one file a sys sile | 22:19 |
| jjpeasl | file | 22:19 |
| jjpeasl | dang fingers | 22:19 |
| stinebd | i really need to get cracking on that live update app | 22:20 |
| reverendkjr | agreed. | 22:20 |
| stinebd | right, that's an updated system.ext2 | 22:20 |
| stinebd | replace the original system.ext2 with that one | 22:20 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 22:20 |
| stinebd | froyo is still in development so we have to release new system images all the time | 22:20 |
| jjpeasl | ok so i will have to stay up to date on what web site? | 22:21 |
| stinebd | just favorite that thread i linked you to | 22:21 |
| stinebd | and if you use twitter, our twitter account is very helpful | 22:21 |
| stinebd | (xdandroid) | 22:21 |
| jjpeasl | good stuff, will see if i can add you on my xbox's twitter account | 22:21 |
| reverendkjr | twitter and facebook both keep us up to speed on updates | 22:21 |
| stinebd | facebook also keeps you updated on funny sounding farts your friends make in the shower | 22:22 |
| reverendkjr | and pictures of grandma at the Grand Canyon | 22:22 |
| jjpeasl | fb username | 22:23 |
| Unholy | gah damn google, y they take down the cupcake ndk | 22:23 |
| stinebd | i think it's a page | 22:23 |
| stinebd | named xdandroid | 22:23 |
| stinebd | i dont use facebook | 22:23 |
| reverendkjr | i never actually ran cupcake. | 22:25 |
| Unholy | i have, when i had my kaiser | 22:25 |
| Unholy | im stuck with it right now for my motocliq | 22:26 |
| jjpeasl | ok so do the set up like i did with the last one? | 22:26 |
| jjpeasl | do i do the updates after i have installed using the haret | 22:29 |
| stinebd | when you're unpacking these files by hand, that IS the installation | 22:30 |
| stinebd | all haret does is boot the linux kernel to start android | 22:30 |
| stinebd | so the answer is you do those updates before running haret | 22:30 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 22:31 |
| jjpeasl | i would like to thank you guys, sure you get the same questions every day | 22:31 |
| jjpeasl | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ what build id am i gonna need? | 22:34 |
| Unholy | latest one | 22:35 |
| Unholy | htc-msm-linux @ 20100819_200730 | 22:35 |
| jjpeasl | got it thanks | 22:36 |
| Unholy | np | 22:36 |
| jjpeasl | none of those files replaced other files is that ok? | 22:37 |
| stinebd | see the instructions at http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 22:38 |
| Unholy | they have too | 22:38 |
| Unholy | make shure you unpack the kernel package | 22:38 |
| reverendkjr | rename the files | 22:41 |
| Unholy | only the zimage | 22:41 |
| Unholy | not modules | 22:41 |
| x2 | make sure to delete the old modules | 22:42 |
| x2 | as well lol | 22:42 |
| NeoMatrixJR | **seen WisTilt2 | 22:44 |
| xdandroid | NeoMatrixJR: WisTilt2 was last seen in #xdandroid 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 27 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <WisTilt2> just time consuming stuff now | 22:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | damn...all that progress then he disappears | 22:44 |
| jjpeasl | still here lol | 22:46 |
| jjpeasl | i'm on the last update and the only initrd i see is a ziped folder | 22:46 |
| stinebd | New initrd.gz builds are rare. The image should be quite stable, so few updates are expected. Updates are available from the initramfs build service. These builds are packages as gzip files and do not need to be unpacked. | 22:48 |
| jjpeasl | ok lol | 22:48 |
| stinebd | Delete the original initrd.gz file and rename the new initrd-VERSION.gz file to initrd.gz | 22:49 |
| jjpeasl | ok all updates are done now insert in phone and run haret | 22:51 |
| jjpeasl | three hours later fingers crossed hope this work lol | 22:54 |
| jjpeasl | shit still no servive | 22:54 |
| reverendkjr | just to be sure | 22:56 |
| reverendkjr | does it work in winmo? | 22:56 |
| jjpeasl | how can i get back to winmo without restarting? | 22:56 |
| reverendkjr | you can't | 22:57 |
| reverendkjr | just restart | 22:57 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 22:57 |
| jjpeasl | just checking | 22:57 |
| jjpeasl | works in wimo | 22:59 |
| reverendkjr | who is your provider? | 22:59 |
| jjpeasl | att | 22:59 |
| reverendkjr | hmm... | 22:59 |
| reverendkjr | what model is the phone | 23:00 |
| jjpeasl | htc tilt 2 | 23:00 |
| reverendkjr | reformat, then just unzip package without messing with any other files | 23:02 |
| reverendkjr | just use the base and see if that works | 23:02 |
| reverendkjr | be sure to take force cdma out of startup.txt | 23:02 |
| reverendkjr | maybe you copied something over wrong | 23:02 |
| jjpeasl | ok will do and i install the rc2.17 one? | 23:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, Stinebd, the live update service would allow you to update the system folder without us having to delete data.img to keep everything running smoothly? | 23:06 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: no, that probably requires us using properly signed builds instead of test keys | 23:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meh, ok. What would that do for us then? | 23:07 |
| stinebd | automate what you do now | 23:07 |
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| JesusFreak316 | What do you mean? Update zImage, rootfs, etc? | 23:07 |
| stinebd | check some text file on xdandroid.com for latest versions, then update for anything new | 23:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh. | 23:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | Will it do system updates at all? | 23:08 |
| stinebd | that would include zimage, rootfs, initramfs, system | 23:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, what exactly causes us to need to delete data.img sometimes? Just incompatibilities? Wouldn't automatically updating everything be a problem if a system update that would usually require a deletion of data.img is automatically pushed? | 23:09 |
| jjpeasl | ok deleted the force cdma now just install again? | 23:10 |
| x2 | just reboot | 23:10 |
| x2 | that startup.txt is ran every boot | 23:10 |
| stinebd | first two questions: probably mismatched keys in packages (ie if i have to make clean between system image releases) | 23:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is that all you did? Deleted force cdma from startup.txt? If yes, then yes just reboot. | 23:11 |
| stinebd | thrid question: that's all part of development. i would have to determine the cause and fix it | 23:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Stinebd: ok. You just wouldn't push updates automatically that would require that? | 23:11 |
| stinebd | if i did, i would provide some sort of warning feature in the app | 23:11 |
| stinebd | but probably would skip those updates entirely | 23:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah, sounds fantastic then. | 23:12 |
| stinebd | if my theory is correct, though, once i start using release keys, the problem should be resolved | 23:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Thanks for clearing that up. | 23:12 |
| stinebd | as it is now, we use test keys to sign the packages. that meas if you have to clean out the aosp source tree between two builds, the keys change (which makes the package manager on the system think something malicious is going on and refuse to update those packages) | 23:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | Btw, do we have loop incorporated into the kernel? I was trying out linux installer from the market and it failed on creating a loopback system for Debian. | 23:13 |
| stinebd | all our filesystems are mounted loopback, so yes | 23:13 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, figured so as we are running off one on the sdcard. | 23:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | It did say on app startup that it didn't recognize the phone as rooted. Any reason that might be? I tried installing the superuser permissions apk but that just force closes. | 23:15 |
| stinebd | no idea | 23:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | Only root app I've ever used is the terminal. | 23:15 |
| stinebd | i don't know how rooting works on retail devices | 23:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why are retail devices relevant? | 23:15 |
| stinebd | the app is written for those | 23:16 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, superuser permissions. So that app shouldn't be necessary? Any idea what would make the linux installer app not recognize it as rooted? | 23:17 |
| stinebd | you just asked that | 23:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | It would be nice to be able to boot ubuntu/debian from android instead of from winmo. | 23:17 |
| stinebd | surely it makes certain assumptions on the android environment | 23:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, I thought maybe you just didn't know why superuser permissions force closed. | 23:17 |
| stinebd | maybe they test for a file like /system/xbin/su existing | 23:18 |
| stinebd | and ours is in rootfs /bin | 23:18 |
| stinebd | xbin being release engineering tools | 23:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well ok. maybe I'll email the app developer. Would copying the su file somewhere else help? | 23:18 |
| stinebd | have you checked logcat? | 23:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Or would the app try to run it from there. | 23:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, it has logcat built in, but I didn't really see anything. | 23:19 |
| stinebd | well if you remount /system rw, you can add a symlink from /system/xbin/su -> /bin/su | 23:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Let me check again. Anything in particular to look for? | 23:19 |
| stinebd | whatever the program outputs | 23:19 |
| stinebd | actually there's an su in /system/xbin already | 23:21 |
| stinebd | and you can check logcat for the superuser permissions app to see why it's force closing | 23:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Where is logcat? Spare parts, development? | 23:21 |
| stinebd | adb | 23:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Meh. Never used adb before; always just used the terminal on the device. I'll go set it up. | 23:22 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Should have done it before anyways. Is it basically unix commands with some extra android-specific commands? | 23:23 |
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| stinebd | not really | 23:23 |
| stinebd | it's a utility on its own, it has its own commands (with pretty good self documentation) | 23:24 |
| stinebd | it can launch a standard shell on the device though | 23:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is there a Windows version? Would prefer not to have to boot into Ubuntu every time to use it. | 23:24 |
| stinebd | there is, but i hear it's a pain | 23:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Eh, ok. My Ubuntu installation's in virtualbox anyways, so it's not a big deal. | 23:25 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Now where'd that usb cable get to? | 23:27 |
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| JesusFreak3162 | jjpeasl: You ever get it working? | 23:33 |
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| jjpeasl | yes sir | 23:34 |
| jjpeasl | freaking computer did a restart on me lol | 23:34 |
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| JesusFreak3162 | Yay. So, data and everything works too? | 23:35 |
| jjpeasl | yes | 23:35 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Grr, stupid automatic name changes. | 23:35 |
| JesusFreak3162 | That's better. | 23:36 |
| JesusFreak3162 | No, it isn't. | 23:36 |
| JesusFreak3162 | identify | 23:36 |
| jjpeasl | yes sir, do you guys know if latitude works or is that a work in progress? | 23:36 |
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| JesusFreak3162 | Anyone remember how to change you nick? | 23:37 |
| Firon | JesusFreak3162: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719 | 23:37 |
| JesusFreak3162 | I keep forgetting. | 23:37 |
| Firon | adb on windows | 23:37 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Oh, thanks. | 23:37 |
| jjpeasl | only weird thing is it seems the 3g covrage isnt as good is that norma? | 23:38 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Can't say. no data plan. Too poor. ;) | 23:38 |
| bmnbmn | Does the kernel recognize mtype 2734 for a CDMA Rhodium or should I just stick with 2292 and force CDMA? | 23:38 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Firon: Gonna do it through Ubuntu anyways, but thanks. | 23:40 |
| jjpeasl | ok the phone says i have 3g but i can not acess market place and browser doesnt work any tips to fix? | 23:45 |
| x2 | latitude works fine | 23:45 |
| x2 | no idea on that, gsm is totally different | 23:46 |
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| jjpeasl | that suck, | 23:52 |
| jjpeasl | now should i do the up dates ? | 23:52 |
| JesusFreak3162 | All your 3g settings are correct? | 23:52 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Apns and stuff. | 23:53 |
| jjpeasl | im not sure on that | 23:53 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Who's your provider? | 23:53 |
| jjpeasl | att | 23:53 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Do you know how to edit the apn settings? | 23:54 |
| jjpeasl | yep | 23:54 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Do you know what the correct ones should be? | 23:54 |
| jjpeasl | i used the same setting i have on my unlocked tmobile g1, | 23:54 |
| JesusFreak3162 | That SHOULD work, afaik. | 23:55 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Let me check the thread. | 23:55 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 23:55 |
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| JesusFreak3162 | It looks like it should autodetect it based on a list of apn's they have. Did you ever try it before you edited it? | 23:56 |
| jjpeasl | ok market is working ok but the browser isnt | 23:57 |
| jjpeasl | i did a restore to default | 23:57 |
| jjpeasl | on the apn | 23:57 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Well then your settings should be ok. | 23:57 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Does it work on wifi? | 23:57 |
| jjpeasl | not sure would have to test it | 23:58 |
| JesusFreak3162 | Try that; if it doesn't work for wifi it's something other than your 3g that's causing the problem. | 23:58 |
| jjpeasl | now will the phone always load in winmo? | 23:58 |
| JesusFreak3162 | What do you mean? | 23:59 |
| JesusFreak3162 | It will still default to Winmo on reboot. | 23:59 |
| jjpeasl | ok | 23:59 |
| jjpeasl | i know some of my questions are dumb | 23:59 |
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