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| Unholy | hello | 00:56 |
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| Reefermattness | sup | 00:57 |
| Unholy | nm, friend of mine gave me hes cliq, enjoing my first native android device | 00:58 |
| Reefermattness | Bought my GF a Mytouch Slide for her B-day, makes me a bit jealous :) | 01:09 |
| Unholy | haha | 01:09 |
| Unholy | its a world of a diference | 01:10 |
| Reefermattness | yeah, i almost went out and got the new att samsung, but i talked myself out of it. I have a full upgrade in march and im gonna wait to see what is out then. | 01:11 |
| Unholy | i see but damn march is a long wait XD | 01:11 |
| Reefermattness | believe me i know... lol | 01:11 |
| Unholy | gah my touch pro is acting up, wont settele on usb 2.0, it whants to transfer at 1.0 -_- | 01:12 |
| Unholy | hes just jelouse im not using him anymore lol | 01:13 |
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| Hojou | anything exciting happened on the project lately? | 05:07 |
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| Dalie | hi guys, quick question, after resetting the device will windows be loaded as normal again? | 06:05 |
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| Dalie | i assume it will but just to be sure | 06:05 |
| babijoee | yep | 06:06 |
| babijoee | windows isnt touched | 06:07 |
| Dalie | tnx | 06:10 |
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| tommo | hey | 09:56 |
| tommo | does 3g work on douch diamond? | 09:57 |
| phh | yes | 09:57 |
| tommo | it wont connect to any websites or anything | 09:59 |
| tommo | and sometimes when the screen goes into standby it wont come back on | 10:00 |
| tommo | has this issue been reported? | 10:00 |
| tommo | one more thing; on the wiki it says when booting into andoird from haret, it should only show the console text the first time and not subsequent times | 10:02 |
| tommo | but i am getting it everytime | 10:02 |
| tommo | any ideas? | 10:03 |
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| aditya | hiiiii | 10:11 |
| aditya | can anybody tell me about the date of upcoming xdandroid package release | 10:13 |
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| sle118 | greetings! | 10:14 |
| tommo | hi | 10:15 |
| sle118 | phh:are you working on the ext2 build? | 10:16 |
| phh | why would I ? | 10:16 |
| sle118 | well not sure.... babijoee was working on it | 10:16 |
| sle118 | and I thought you were involved | 10:16 |
| sle118 | xdandroid:later tell babijoee Anxiously waiting for ext2 build. After installing new rootfs and initrd on saturday, phone kept crashing in navigation (on a 14 hours car trip... good thing I had a real GPS!). After deleting data.img, everything back to normal. | 10:20 |
| sle118 | xdandroid: later tell babijoee Anxiously waiting for ext2 build. | 10:20 |
| xdandroid | sle118: The operation succeeded. | 10:20 |
| stinebd | please don't bother us about releases | 10:21 |
| stinebd | we still have a lot to do with this stuff | 10:21 |
| sle118 | I know | 10:21 |
| sle118 | I had a chat last sat with babijoee | 10:21 |
| sle118 | about this | 10:21 |
| sle118 | I am not pushing you guys | 10:21 |
| sle118 | just saying I am excited about what you are accomplishing | 10:22 |
| tommo | sle118: how oldare you? | 10:23 |
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| sle118 | babijoee: hello | 11:22 |
| sle118 | stinebd:do you have a minute to help? | 11:26 |
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| sle118 | stinebd: I am experiencing periodical crash on DIAM500 | 11:27 |
| sle118 | It started on Sat when I took the latest init and root | 11:27 |
| sle118 | I will post on the XDA Forum | 11:36 |
| sle118 | reboot is periodical. phone reboots straight to XDAndroid | 11:37 |
| sle118 | no Winmo | 11:37 |
| sle118 | no Data | 11:37 |
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| hamagc | good morning gang | 11:56 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: later tell sle118 sorry, i was working on real life stuff. sounds like android userland itself is crashing, not the system or the kernel. logcat would be very helpful for that. | 12:04 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: The operation succeeded. | 12:04 |
| hamagc | crap i forgot to bring my ubuntu cd to work | 12:06 |
| * hamagc slaps himself | 12:06 | |
| hamagc | also on the new initramfs i noticed that my raph800 kinda ran like crap. ran warm, battery died faster, clock was off by about an hour lastnight. replaced with the 6/11 and seems better. just an fyi for those still on the ext2 system build. | 12:09 |
| stinebd | unrelated | 12:18 |
| stinebd | initramfs is completely out of play once the bring-up is complete | 12:18 |
| hamagc | hmm. must be kernal then? | 12:18 |
| stinebd | who knows | 12:19 |
| hamagc | maybe it's just time for a new data.img | 12:19 |
| stinebd | could be the cdma crazies again | 12:19 |
| hamagc | lol damn those cdma ghosts | 12:19 |
| hamagc | ok so i'm downloading ubuntu again, hopefully i can do everything from a usb drive live cd thingy | 12:20 |
| stinebd | could be the system image | 12:20 |
| stinebd | i don't remember what has been changed since the last release though | 12:20 |
| hamagc | well i'm guessing kernal or data.img if initramfs does nothing after boot. those were the only things changed over the weekend for me. but bah lol. hopefully i can get some good testing on the new setup tonight. | 12:21 |
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| stinebd | i need to start learning the kernel level stuff | 12:42 |
| stinebd | we have nobody working on that | 12:42 |
| stinebd | probably hopeless with the time i have to work on it | 12:45 |
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| hamagc | ya we def. ned someone on kernal development. | 12:52 |
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| awsrasool | am just wondering if anyone knows where i can find the list of changes for the new rootfs and init files | 13:09 |
| stinebd | same place you find the files | 13:10 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/ | 13:10 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.southcape.org/initramfs/ | 13:10 |
| awsrasool | oh dono how i missed that... thank you very much | 13:11 |
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| hamagc | ok time to test the new setup with usbcd in ubuntu lol. be back in a bit. | 13:32 |
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| stinebd | xdandroid: errno 30 | 13:40 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: EROFS (#30): Read-only file system | 13:40 |
| stinebd | hmm | 13:40 |
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| electrikjesus | hello :) | 14:09 |
| Reefermattness | hey man | 14:10 |
| stinebd | someone find out why media in /system is not being scanned. | 14:12 |
| phh | xdandroid: errno 42 | 14:13 |
| xdandroid | phh: ENOMSG (#42): No message of desired type | 14:13 |
| phh | stinebd: <3 | 14:13 |
| phh | you did that ? | 14:13 |
| stinebd | it's part of the bot | 14:13 |
| stinebd | standard | 14:13 |
| phh | ah. | 14:13 |
| phh | still it's great, I always use my big old grep that takes ages. | 14:13 |
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| stinebd | supybot is great | 14:13 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: list unix | 14:14 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: crypt, errno, fortune, pid, spell, and wtf | 14:14 |
| phh | ? | 14:14 |
| stinebd | xdandroid: wtf is lol | 14:14 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: LOL: laughing out loud | 14:14 |
| phh | xdandroid: wtf are you ? | 14:14 |
| xdandroid | phh: wtf [is] <something> | 14:14 |
| phh | . | 14:14 |
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| hamagc | ok partitioned card and everything seems to have gone well but i seem to be stuck in a bootloop. | 14:18 |
| hamagc | i'll give it a few more minutes and if it's still going i guess i'll start over and try again lol | 14:18 |
| stinebd | on first boot? | 14:18 |
| phh | fix your damn perms. | 14:18 |
| hamagc | ya | 14:19 |
| stinebd | just reboot, it's not gonna work | 14:19 |
| hamagc | ok | 14:19 |
| hamagc | so i guess i could have put my ubuntu live on my 1gb card and kept my 2gb card for xdandroid. | 14:20 |
| hamagc | have to switch them at lunchtime | 14:20 |
| hamagc | reefermadness, nice video walkthrough | 14:22 |
| hamagc | err reefermattness | 14:23 |
| hamagc | ohhh booted | 14:23 |
| Reefermattness | Thanks man! | 14:24 |
| stinebd | how bad is it to mount /data async? | 14:36 |
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| hamagc | ok question. can we use the andboot folder with the partitions? or does everything need to be on root? | 14:42 |
| stinebd | well in my testing i used andboot | 14:42 |
| hamagc | awesome, thanks | 14:43 |
| stinebd | holy crap an imdb app finally | 14:48 |
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| NevroPus_ | Hi. Should I install a 2.1 or 2.2 version of xdandroid? | 14:50 |
| hamagc | 2.2 | 14:50 |
| NevroPus_ | and what version is 21.6.10.ASOP? | 14:50 |
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| hamagc | what device are you on? | 14:51 |
| Nevro | rhodium | 14:51 |
| hamagc | cdma or gsm? | 14:51 |
| Nevro | gsm | 14:51 |
| hamagc | gimmie a sec | 14:51 |
| Nevro | sure;) | 14:53 |
| hamagc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997 would prob. be your best bet. | 14:53 |
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| Nevro | ok, thanks. Should I use cab or rar? | 14:55 |
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| hamagc | cab may be easier | 14:59 |
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| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20100816-1421d89) at: http://is.gd/ekz48 -- Changes at: http://is.gd/ekz47 | 16:13 |
| hamagc | doh! thanks xdandroid | 16:17 |
| stinebd | phh: well our placebo causing different performance with partitions vs loopback filesystems was data.img being mounted -o sync and me mounting data partition normally | 16:18 |
| hamagc | now everytime we want to update something we need to go back into linux and extract the img to the partition right? i assume best to reformat the partition then extract? | 16:18 |
| hamagc | brb | 16:18 |
| phh | stinebd: sync ??? | 16:18 |
| phh | err | 16:18 |
| phh | i could have told you it's a bad idea :po | 16:18 |
| stinebd | i didn't know about it | 16:19 |
| stinebd | it's been in there forever | 16:19 |
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| phh | oO | 16:19 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/eclair-rootfs/blobs/9f20b3961df04f4c422e3fa0e6e311f9737e24d6/init#line100 | 16:20 |
| stinebd | that's our first ever entry for init heh | 16:20 |
| phh | damn :( | 16:22 |
| phh | I should have noticed it :s | 16:22 |
| stinebd | me too :D | 16:22 |
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| phh | anyway good it's fixed. | 16:22 |
| stinebd | yeah, maybe we don't even need to bother with partitions now | 16:22 |
| fito | hi all from spain | 16:22 |
| stinebd | also i set it to mount with relatime | 16:23 |
| phh | stinebd: we don't do the same joke on the sdcard I hope ? | 16:23 |
| phh | oh the vfat I mean | 16:23 |
| stinebd | mount -t vfat -o fmask=0000,dmask=0000,rw,flush,noatime,nodiratime /dev/block/$partition /sdcard | 16:23 |
| stinebd | no idea what flush is | 16:23 |
| phh | cool | 16:23 |
| phh | err | 16:23 |
| phh | flush If set, the filesystem will try to flush to disk more early than normal. Not set by default. | 16:24 |
| phh | ok fine | 16:24 |
| stinebd | yeah | 16:24 |
| phh | a sync asynchronous basically ;) | 16:24 |
| stinebd | which was killing the io with sync data.img | 16:24 |
| fito | sorry, i understand nothing. bye | 16:27 |
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| Unholy | heya | 16:28 |
| stinebd | i got a pi result with linpack | 16:28 |
| stinebd | 3.14 | 16:28 |
| stinebd | gonna have to take a picture of it | 16:28 |
| stinebd | phh: any idea if the hardware supports sim hotswap? ie. can i plug one in while it's running? | 16:29 |
| phh | oO | 16:29 |
| phh | you've got many such questions. | 16:29 |
| phh | stinebd: haha, funny result p | 16:29 |
| phh | stinebd: i'd say it's not capable of tat | 16:29 |
| stinebd | bah | 16:29 |
| phh | but well | 16:29 |
| stinebd | hmm flash player updated | 16:30 |
| phh | armv6 support ? :p | 16:31 |
| stinebd | adobe gives no changelog | 16:31 |
| stinebd | probably a security fix | 16:32 |
| phh | h | 16:32 |
| phh | a | 16:32 |
| hamagc | ok | 16:32 |
| hamagc | ok so rootfs, can this be done via android or will in need to be in linux? | 16:33 |
| phh | ? | 16:34 |
| phh | lolwat ? | 16:34 |
| stinebd | gotta be in linux | 16:34 |
| stinebd | he has partitions | 16:34 |
| phh | so android is fine ? :p | 16:34 |
| phh | oh. | 16:34 |
| hamagc | linux it is. | 16:34 |
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| stinebd | huh, didn't know "No space left on device" could also mean no inodes | 17:27 |
| phh | ah, me neither | 17:27 |
| phh | you get that on android ? oO | 17:27 |
| stinebd | rootfs | 17:27 |
| phh | there aren't that many files there oO | 17:27 |
| stinebd | genext2fs will by default only make enough inodes for the number of files it's given | 17:27 |
| phh | oh. | 17:28 |
| stinebd | so i jacked it up to 1024 | 17:28 |
| stinebd | (power of 2 win) | 17:28 |
| phh | ok | 17:28 |
| phh | perhaps you're supposed to do power of 2 -2 because of internally used file ? :D | 17:28 |
| * stinebd shrugs | 17:29 | |
| stinebd | we'll do power of whatever works | 17:29 |
| phh | lol | 17:29 |
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| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20100816-40d34c5) at: http://is.gd/ekEaV -- Changes at: http://is.gd/ekEaU | 17:33 |
| HowEasy | Second new RootFS within the past hour. Sounds sexy | 17:33 |
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| hamagc | ok well new rootfs seems to have borked my setup. had to revert back. i think it has something to do with fat32 as sdc1 | 17:35 |
| reverendkjr | i'm noticing dramatic lag on my system after 10 hours | 17:35 |
| reverendkjr | i think its my sdcard | 17:36 |
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| hamagc | i had a ton of errors that said Stale NFS File Handle | 17:36 |
| stinebd | nfs? | 17:36 |
| hamagc | yep | 17:37 |
| reverendkjr | thats interesting... | 17:37 |
| hamagc | thats what i said | 17:37 |
| reverendkjr | i think something is killing our sd cards | 17:38 |
| reverendkjr | slowly and randomly | 17:38 |
| hamagc | well i'm sure running an os off of them doesn't help lol | 17:38 |
| HowEasy | speaks the truth ^^ | 17:38 |
| reverendkjr | i've been through 4 cards since i've been running xdandroid | 17:38 |
| reverendkjr | I hope the NAND doesn't act like this when we get to that point | 17:39 |
| stinebd | well if we don't find a kernel developer we won't have to worry about that | 17:39 |
| hamagc | lol | 17:40 |
| reverendkjr | did we lose somebody? | 17:40 |
| stinebd | everybody? | 17:40 |
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| reverendkjr | so what does the inode change do for us? | 17:46 |
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| x2 | reverendkjr | 17:59 |
| x2 | i had lag issues | 17:59 |
| x2 | check free ram.. | 17:59 |
| x2 | something was causing a mem leak for me | 17:59 |
| x2 | only a fresh install fixed it | 18:00 |
| hamagc | x2, your on raph800 right? | 18:00 |
| x2 | yea | 18:00 |
| HowEasy | I would help out with kernels...if I had an idea on how to do so. 0____0 | 18:00 |
| hamagc | how are you finding the new build to be? i just partitioned and installed everything today | 18:00 |
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| hamagc | i read over the weekend that your battery seems to have increased? | 18:01 |
| hamagc | i used titanium backup but that seems to have done more bad then good so i reformatted my data partition and started over | 18:02 |
| x2 | yea | 18:03 |
| x2 | same issue here | 18:03 |
| x2 | i had major ram leaks when i used titanium to restore oddly | 18:03 |
| x2 | im on ext2 now and it seems nice | 18:03 |
| x2 | battery life is maybe a little better | 18:04 |
| x2 | i need to re partition with fat32 as my 1st partition | 18:04 |
| x2 | not that it really matters i guess, since using activesync to xfer stuff isnt bad | 18:04 |
| hamagc | i did that off the bat as i need fat32 for work stuff to be accessable in windows | 18:04 |
| hamagc | heh didn't think of that. | 18:04 |
| hamagc | maybe tomorrow i'll do the rootfs as partition 1 and fat32 as 4 and see if the new rootfs works for me then. | 18:05 |
| hamagc | hey phh, with this new gpl stuff going on, will this make dzos work available to us? or help us out in any way? | 18:06 |
| phh | hamagc: ???? | 18:07 |
| phh | what are you talking about ? | 18:07 |
| hamagc | i spoke with you a few weeks ago about dzo's work and you said you had tried to talk to him but that he wasn't interested in sharing his work or something like that | 18:07 |
| hamagc | it's foggy now | 18:07 |
| phh | all of his work is opensource | 18:08 |
| phh | just unreadable. | 18:08 |
| phh | there are just binary values | 18:08 |
| hamagc | ahh i see, well thats no good for us. | 18:08 |
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| stinebd | "Has anyone else noticed that the phone seems to be using the "back" & "end" button LED's as data/processor access lamps - a useful indicator - did someone do that on purpose." | 18:32 |
| phh | lolwat ? | 18:33 |
| stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7700095&postcount=1892 | 18:36 |
| stinebd | not sure how people come up with these things | 18:37 |
| phh | :p | 18:37 |
| hamagc | lol wtf is a data/processor access lamp? | 18:39 |
| hamagc | as in his leds are flashing like a harddrive led on a computer? | 18:39 |
| phh | well, it's possible to do. | 18:40 |
| phh | but hum | 18:40 |
| phh | no. | 18:40 |
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| thedicemaster | my bet is his capacitive sensor is fried, and reports random touches that aren't there. | 18:44 |
| phh | :p | 18:44 |
| hamagc | well mine kinda goes nuts when the battery is really low. right before it dies, the lights will flash at random. my raph800 and my g/fs diam500 too | 18:46 |
| phh | we have many things that go wrong :/ | 18:47 |
| thedicemaster | i think the capacitive are going crazy is not an android problem. | 18:49 |
| thedicemaster | i have it really bad now, but the problem seems to exist in WM too(nobody notices though, because the hardware buttons are hardly used in WM) | 18:49 |
| hamagc | i think it falls in with the capacitive buttons going crazy - hardware issue | 18:50 |
| hamagc | but i don't think i have ever had the issue in winmo where they stop responding, atlease that that i can remember (within the last 2 weeks lol) | 18:50 |
| stinebd | been at 99% for a while | 19:02 |
| stinebd | this would be a more meaningful test if the battery meter were remotely close to reality | 19:03 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:03 |
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| hamagc | ok guys, i will see you tomorrow. i'll have a good idea on personal battery life tomorrow. | 19:33 |
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| stinebd | heh | 19:36 |
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| stinebd | ah down to 89% | 20:27 |
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| stinebd | hmm | 21:03 |
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| reverendkjr | anyone else experiencing a memory leak? | 21:20 |
| reverendkjr | its slow, but its definitely there | 21:20 |
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| stinebd | phh: i'd have to guess it's not much better - at 82% after 3.5 hours | 21:31 |
| stinebd | phh: actually you know what... the extusb converter dongle that htc ships with the phones has an led in it, which lights up a bit as it's plugged in, still. so it seems the port is still putting out power. | 21:37 |
| stinebd | phh: note the above is with nothing plugged into the converter, of course | 21:39 |
| stinebd | this is perfect, that little led is an exact duplicate of the forum guy's test case | 21:40 |
| stinebd | in winmo it's on with charger plugged in and off with nothing plugged in | 21:40 |
| reverendkjr | my car charger does the same thing. | 21:40 |
| reverendkjr | it lights up when plugged into phone | 21:41 |
| reverendkjr | and NOT into charger port | 21:41 |
| stinebd | which means the port is drawing power | 21:41 |
| stinebd | potentially the mystery battery killer (or at least one of them) | 21:41 |
| stinebd | phh: let me know a good way to kill usb completely and i can try it like that | 21:42 |
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| reverendkjr | stinebd, the cyanogenmod on our device does the same thing with the dongle light | 23:17 |
| stinebd | reverendkjr: kernel issue | 23:17 |
| reverendkjr | i just tested it and got the same result. | 23:17 |
| reverendkjr | oh. well, if its kernel. then it wouldnt matter what system i use | 23:18 |
| reverendkjr | darn. | 23:18 |
| reverendkjr | i plugged something into the side usb port of the converter and the light goes off | 23:18 |
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