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| x2 | damn | 00:42 |
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| x2 | xdandroid wont sleep when its running off ext2 | 00:42 |
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| HowEasy | Sleep works on the 8.12 image. So don't worry much about it | 00:52 |
| babijoee | x2: it does indeed work | 00:55 |
| babijoee | something must be running in bg | 00:55 |
| x2 | hrm | 00:56 |
| babijoee | dont fuss over it too much | 00:56 |
| x2 | well I had issues with sounds | 00:56 |
| x2 | all it would show was silent | 00:56 |
| HowEasy | Also working in the 8.12 image. | 00:56 |
| x2 | so i moved the audio folder out to my sdcard on a hunch | 00:56 |
| x2 | they all showed up :p | 00:56 |
| babijoee | lol | 00:56 |
| x2 | im on the 8.13 image.. | 00:57 |
| HowEasy | babijoee: I've been stressing ALL day on getting a foolproof windows thing going here. Its like hell. xD | 00:57 |
| HowEasy | (its 1AM) | 00:57 |
| babijoee | hahaha | 00:57 |
| babijoee | gl | 00:58 |
| x2 | led effects should still work right? | 00:58 |
| x2 | i cant get it to deep sleep no matter what I do | 00:58 |
| x2 | nor does the battery level drop from full | 00:58 |
| HowEasy | babijoee: Any idea how navigating to certain partitions fully work within haret? | 00:59 |
| HowEasy | I cant seem to navigate to the correct folders on the sd from within Haret to then distribute them to the proper partitions | 01:00 |
| x2 | oh, nvm on that, im running with the fake battery | 01:00 |
| babijoee | HowEasy: i'm not following | 01:06 |
| HowEasy | Don't play with initrd much? ;D | 01:07 |
| babijoee | not really | 01:14 |
| babijoee | but what do you want to do? | 01:14 |
| HowEasy | Im trying to get haret to mount the rootfs and system.ext2. But I don't know where to point haret to since the directories have a different structure I guess. | 01:16 |
| HowEasy | Im navigating to /dev/mmcblk0p4 | 01:16 |
| HowEasy | Which should be my FAT32 parition. But I guess not. | 01:16 |
| Reefermattness | whats going on guys? | 01:22 |
| babijoee | HowEasy: the system already mounts rootfs and system.ext2 | 01:26 |
| HowEasy | Im trying to throw something together for Windows users who dont want to use Linux. So they're gonna need a way to get the contents of the files onto the needed partitions without using Linux to extract them to it | 01:27 |
| HowEasy | So if I can just navigate to the SD from haret I can just get haret to extract the .ext2 and rootfs for me. But Im not sure how this whole mmcblk0 thing works. | 01:30 |
| Reefermattness | HowEasy just give us an auto install app, screw windows users :P lol | 01:32 |
| babijoee | HowEasy: thats why stinebd exists :p | 01:33 |
| babijoee | hes guru on this | 01:33 |
| babijoee | i'm sure next time he speaks its done :p | 01:33 |
| babijoee | xdandroid: later tell stinebd he rocks :p | 01:34 |
| xdandroid | babijoee: The operation succeeded. | 01:34 |
| Reefermattness | stinebd is too smart for his own good :P | 01:34 |
| Reefermattness | makes me a bit jealous | 01:34 |
| Reefermattness | :) | 01:34 |
| x2 | xdandroid: later tell x2 hes a noob | 01:34 |
| xdandroid | x2: The operation succeeded. | 01:34 |
| x2 | :/ | 01:34 |
| babijoee | lol | 01:35 |
| x2 | LOL : [15::01:34] <xdandroid> Sent just now: <x2> hes a noob | 01:35 |
| HowEasy | My battery life is quite good, I must say. | 01:46 |
| babijoee | same | 01:46 |
| babijoee | mine is running for 12 hours | 01:46 |
| HowEasy | I ran about 16 hours with wifi off. | 01:46 |
| babijoee | no hang | 01:46 |
| HowEasy | And about 11 with wifi on at all times. | 01:46 |
| HowEasy | Not really extreme usage at all. But running nonetheless. | 01:47 |
| babijoee | why have wifi on the whole time :p | 01:47 |
| babijoee | dont you have data? | 01:48 |
| HowEasy | It was accidental. xD | 01:48 |
| babijoee | lol | 01:48 |
| HowEasy | I went to bed and just forgot to turn it off. | 01:48 |
| babijoee | and its good as the device doesn't heat up | 01:48 |
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| x2 | do you all leave gps on? | 02:05 |
| x2 | does deep sleep turn on for you all? | 02:05 |
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| HowEasy | I usually have GPS off. So I wouldnt know | 02:05 |
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| MrObvious | . | 03:10 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Daniel M., who says: I would like to have Android running perfectly on my Topaz. Thanks for you work! | 06:21 |
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| NaohiroFukuda | test | 09:01 |
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| Diamond | Hi all , i am after a rom for my diamond that may run android faster, I currently use NRG rom, Would changing rom's help at all ? | 09:12 |
| Diamond | where is the best forum about android on diamonds ? | 09:13 |
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| TheDeadCPU | babijoee__, YouTube fucked up the video.. It's 10 times better on vlc.. | 10:42 |
| babijoee__ | lol | 10:43 |
| babijoee__ | trying out 2.2 on virtual machine | 10:43 |
| babijoee__ | very slow :p | 10:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | :p | 10:43 |
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| reverendkjr | howdy | 11:05 |
| babijoee__ | hi | 11:07 |
| babijoee__ | good to see you here :p | 11:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | It seems to be a slight rift in the space time continuum. | 11:08 |
| reverendkjr | oh good. i'm so anxious about this ext2 builds, i had to come get some info. | 11:08 |
| babijoee__ | its finished | 11:09 |
| reverendkjr | where? | 11:09 |
| babijoee__ | but stinebd is working on making it easier | 11:09 |
| babijoee__ | since you're an active user | 11:10 |
| babijoee__ | and you've answered heaps of q on xda | 11:10 |
| babijoee__ | i'll send you invite | 11:10 |
| reverendkjr | that would rock. i appreciate it. | 11:10 |
| babijoee__ | exact nick on xda | 11:10 |
| reverendkjr | yes. | 11:10 |
| reverendkjr | reverendkjr | 11:11 |
| babijoee__ | done | 11:18 |
| babijoee__ | are you really a revernd? :p | 11:18 |
| reverendkjr | yes i am. and yes, i just joined the group. thx. | 11:19 |
| babijoee__ | kool | 11:19 |
| reverendkjr | yes, and jesus loves xdandroid! :) | 11:20 |
| babijoee__ | lol | 11:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | Blasphemy! | 11:20 |
| babijoee__ | if you have any qs just ask away | 11:21 |
| babijoee__ | the procedure should be straight forward | 11:21 |
| reverendkjr | yeah, i think a lot of people would be better off with this project if they just installed linux and did it all in there. | 11:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | Everything except gaming is a lot easier in *nix | 11:22 |
| reverendkjr | agreed. | 11:23 |
| reverendkjr | has anyone tried ext3 or ext4 partitions yet? | 11:23 |
| TheDeadCPU | I thought ext3/4 didn't work with HaRET? | 11:24 |
| babijoee__ | not supported yet | 11:24 |
| reverendkjr | i've used them with neopeeks builds, but i never noticed a speed advantage. | 11:24 |
| reverendkjr | i think they just mount as ext2 anyway. | 11:24 |
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| babijoee__ | i've updated the guide | 11:28 |
| babijoee__ | just to make it easier to read | 11:28 |
| babijoee__ | so just refresh the page | 11:28 |
| reverendkjr | first boot is loading now. I used ext3 partitions. they mounted as ext2. | 11:37 |
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| Jeff2 | I just installed xdandroid on my htc touch 2 | 14:39 |
| Jeff2 | was wondering if anyone is having issues with getting the google navigation/maps program working? | 14:40 |
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| Quier | phh r u here? | 15:06 |
| phh | yes | 15:06 |
| Quier | i'll be glad if u help me | 15:06 |
| Quier | we are sure that's a mmu problem | 15:06 |
| Quier | and it's kernel issue | 15:06 |
| Quier | you know smth about it? | 15:06 |
| Quier | can u help me? | 15:10 |
| phh | yes ? | 15:12 |
| Quier | with that i've wrote | 15:12 |
| Quier | if u don't plz write it | 15:14 |
| phh | ? | 15:15 |
| Quier | we have a problem with mmu when booting haret (tattoo kernel) it hangs/crashes at turning off mmu | 15:16 |
| Quier | we're sure that this is a kernel issue | 15:16 |
| phh | lol ? | 15:17 |
| phh | who turns off mmu ? | 15:17 |
| phh | haret or the kernel ? | 15:17 |
| Quier | haret | 15:17 |
| phh | how could it be a kernel issue ? | 15:17 |
| Quier | you know better | 15:17 |
| phh | well it's either haret or kernel | 15:17 |
| phh | can't be both | 15:17 |
| phh | I don't know who turns off mmu | 15:17 |
| Quier | at haret booting we have black screen | 15:18 |
| Quier | haret boot | 15:18 |
| Quier | shutting down hardware | 15:18 |
| Quier | turning off mmu | 15:18 |
| Quier | and at this place it hangs or restarts | 15:18 |
| Quier | you know smth about this problem? | 15:19 |
| phh | no | 15:19 |
| phh | but I thought you were on msm7225 ? | 15:19 |
| Quier | yes | 15:19 |
| Quier | with patched haret for this processor of course | 15:20 |
| phh | you think the code is common between 7201 and 7225 ? | 15:20 |
| phh | patched how ? | 15:20 |
| Quier | one moment i'll give you a link ok? | 15:20 |
| phh | ok | 15:20 |
| Quier | http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/haret-devel/2010-March/000017.html | 15:20 |
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| reverendkjr | which system.ext2 are you guys using? | 15:28 |
| Quier | it's a question for me? | 15:29 |
| reverendkjr | it's a question for anyone who will answer :) | 15:33 |
| Quier | if it's for me we're using default ones from kaiser/xdandroid haret packs | 15:33 |
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| Quier | so phh? | 15:35 |
| phh | kaiser/xdandroid ?!? | 15:35 |
| phh | that exists ? | 15:35 |
| phh | erf | 15:35 |
| phh | Quier: don't know | 15:35 |
| Quier | no android pack for kaiser | 15:35 |
| Quier | or xdandroid project's system.ext2 | 15:36 |
| Quier | so you guys don't have any idea on this | 15:39 |
| Quier | ? | 15:39 |
| phh | well I don't know mmu stuff | 15:41 |
| phh | if it's mmu the problem I just can't help | 15:41 |
| Quier | ok i see thanks | 15:43 |
| x2 | ZOMG | 15:47 |
| x2 | im loving my ext2 build so much now | 15:47 |
| x2 | battery life seems pretty amazing, its stable, fast, and i dont even see it going into deep sleep ever? | 15:48 |
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| stinebd | huh? | 16:37 |
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| x2 | wow | 16:55 |
| x2 | deep sleep decided it wanted to start working a few hours ago | 16:55 |
| x2 | so now everything is working | 16:55 |
| x2 | the unreleased ext2 build | 16:55 |
| x2 | im testing on raph800 | 16:55 |
| stinebd | battery life is no differen | 17:11 |
| stinebd | different* | 17:11 |
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| Tasty_boy_XDA | hey | 17:19 |
| x2 | odd since it seems tons better | 17:20 |
| x2 | prior to ext2 i couldnt even make it 4 hrs with 30 mins of playing on it and the rest standby | 17:20 |
| x2 | today after 4 it was still in the green | 17:20 |
| x2 | not sure though.. | 17:20 |
| Tasty_boy_XDA | hey guys | 17:21 |
| Tasty_boy_XDA | noob question | 17:21 |
| Tasty_boy_XDA | how to navigate between the word while texting someone? | 17:22 |
| Tasty_boy_XDA | or writing somethin? | 17:22 |
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| Reefermattness | Hey guys what's going on? | 19:57 |
| Reefermattness | Stinebd: we may need to change the new setup a bit. Fat32 needs to be partition #1 for windows to recognize it. Working great tho, 5.42 average on linpack overclocked to 787MHz. :) | 20:00 |
| stinebd | Reefermattness: not in my testing | 20:05 |
| stinebd | fat32 on partition 4 works fine for me | 20:05 |
| Reefermattness | Tells me I need to format if I insert it, and if I do format its the 25mb partition. | 20:06 |
| stinebd | assuming that by windows you mean winmo | 20:06 |
| Reefermattness | Win7 :) | 20:06 |
| stinebd | desktop windows should pop up multiple "drives" per partition, no? | 20:07 |
| Reefermattness | Not that it matters right now need linux to install it, so obviously I can still get to my sd card | 20:07 |
| stinebd | multiple "drives", one per partition | 20:07 |
| Reefermattness | Nope not in shitty windows :) | 20:07 |
| Reefermattness | In linux it works just fine | 20:07 |
| Reefermattness | Obviously | 20:08 |
| thedicemaster | windows can't handle partitioned flash memory. | 20:08 |
| stinebd | who writes that shit | 20:09 |
| stinebd | and why can wince? | 20:09 |
| Reefermattness | And since you need linux to install right now, then its not that big of an issue for me. Just bringing it up for when we progress to an installer, people with windows will be hurting. :) | 20:09 |
| stinebd | it is a big issue though | 20:09 |
| stinebd | now i need to change stuff in init and spend hours testing it and crap | 20:10 |
| stinebd | thanks a lot Reefermattness :P | 20:10 |
| Reefermattness | I hoped someone else would bring it up first :P | 20:10 |
| thedicemaster | wince might look for the first readable partition(since it's not made to manage partitions) regular windows is made with the ability to manage partitions in mind so it will look for the first partition, trying to make it readable if it isn't readable. | 20:10 |
| Reefermattness | Yup that's exactly what happens dice | 20:10 |
| stinebd | well if it can manage partitionS, it should logically be able to manage more than one | 20:11 |
| thedicemaster | it can, as long as it's not flash memory. | 20:11 |
| stinebd | and don't give me crap about flash, it's all the same crap to a desktop | 20:11 |
| thedicemaster | MS thinks otherwise. | 20:12 |
| stinebd | MS doesn't think | 20:12 |
| stinebd | actually it's not all the same crap really | 20:12 |
| stinebd | you have ide, scsi and sata | 20:12 |
| stinebd | but don't let logic get in the way of a rant | 20:12 |
| Reefermattness | Lol you deserve one every now and again. ;) | 20:13 |
| thedicemaster | i've been annoyed by that limitation too this week. | 20:14 |
| thedicemaster | installed an ext2 driver so i could make changes to the ext2 partition with android in my phone. | 20:15 |
| thedicemaster | but it's the 2nd partition. | 20:16 |
| stinebd | so it can't read more than one partition, but can windows create partitions? | 20:17 |
| stinebd | (on sd) | 20:18 |
| thedicemaster | no | 20:18 |
| stinebd | nice | 20:18 |
| thedicemaster | all it can do is format an existing partition. | 20:19 |
| thedicemaster | making it quite a pain if for example you managed to get a multi-partition USB stick/SDcard and want to format it to a single partition. | 20:19 |
| stinebd | raises an interesting question about how windows users can do this | 20:21 |
| thedicemaster | only thing i can think of is making a bootable "android installer CD" with a trimmed linux that is set up to do the formatting and file placing. | 20:22 |
| thedicemaster | perhaps they will fix it in windows 8. | 20:22 |
| stinebd | hah | 20:23 |
| stinebd | i have my doubts, but we'll see in 2016 | 20:23 |
| thedicemaster | also took them untill windows 7 to get HDD/partition image mounting, which i'm pretty sure has been in linux for way longer. | 20:24 |
| stinebd | maybe we can make an installation package, have the user unzip the files to a clean fat32 sd card, and have the phone do the installation | 20:25 |
| stinebd | probably not, unless it's 2 stages which would be more of a pain than it's worth | 20:26 |
| stinebd | or if all the devices have enough ram to store images in ramdisks during installation | 20:27 |
| Reefermattness | Shit microsoft is barely catching on to simple things like transition effects... lol. Can't expect too much. | 20:28 |
| thedicemaster | ugh, my router is driving me crazy. | 20:33 |
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| cazh_ | stinebd: by the way system needs to be partition 2, it seems to mount it as system | 20:43 |
| stinebd | cazh_: that's how it's designed now, yes | 20:43 |
| stinebd | obviously if we have to bump fat32 to partition 1, everything else gets knocked down a spot | 20:43 |
| cazh_ | Okay, gave me some trouble since I had fat32 as part 1 and then mount as part2 | 20:44 |
| cazh_ | Thats what I had, but I just changed rootfs and fat32 and the startup cmd and then i work :) | 20:44 |
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| stinebd | i wonder how big parted would be | 20:46 |
| stinebd | or if it would even build with bionic | 20:47 |
| cazh_ | Why wouldn't it? | 20:49 |
| stinebd | well it's a GNU utility | 20:49 |
| stinebd | anyway the static version is 1.3MB | 20:49 |
| stinebd | wonder if it's armable | 20:49 |
| cazh_ | Thats not much | 20:49 |
| cazh_ | Are you thiknking of installing from a ramdisk? | 20:57 |
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| stinebd | maybe | 21:06 |
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| Reefermattness | Stinebd: no need for crazy reprogramming. :) just switch rootfs and fat32 partition and .txt cmdline to match. | 21:50 |
| Reefermattness | Works like a charm still. | 21:50 |
| stinebd | no need to change cmdline, we can just get rid of it | 21:50 |
| Reefermattness | Oh ya? | 21:51 |
| stinebd | at least sdcard_part | 21:51 |
| stinebd | since we now can assume it's going to be mmcblk0p1 | 21:51 |
| Reefermattness | If its the first one then it doesn't need that huh? | 21:51 |
| Reefermattness | Gotcha | 21:51 |
| cazh_ | can we add a cmdline for system and data then? | 21:51 |
| stinebd | does it really need to be configurable? | 21:52 |
| Reefermattness | Why would we need to? | 21:52 |
| cazh_ | it doesn't really need to be, but i would be nice | 21:52 |
| cazh_ | I guess I'm just not a fan of a force partition table | 21:53 |
| Reefermattness | Lol no more locked doors!!! | 21:54 |
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| reverendkjr | anyone want to field a question? | 22:46 |
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| stinebd | see topic re: asking to ask | 22:55 |
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| reverendkjr | oops. oh well. | 23:05 |
| reverendkjr | i seem to be having a lag in write speed | 23:05 |
| reverendkjr | on my ext2 partitions | 23:06 |
| stinebd | all questions must be in the form of a question | 23:06 |
| reverendkjr | :) | 23:06 |
| reverendkjr | what would cause this? | 23:06 |
| reverendkjr | i've reformated over and over | 23:07 |
| reverendkjr | card seems to be writing terribly slow | 23:07 |
| stinebd | what kind of card? | 23:07 |
| reverendkjr | 8gb class 4 generic brand | 23:07 |
| reverendkjr | worked fine for a while | 23:07 |
| reverendkjr | now its killing my performance | 23:08 |
| reverendkjr | in linux and android | 23:08 |
| stinebd | linux as in on a computer? | 23:09 |
| reverendkjr | yup. when i dd the system.ext2 to partition... | 23:09 |
| reverendkjr | it took FOREVER. | 23:09 |
| reverendkjr | was longer than it should. | 23:09 |
| stinebd | interesting | 23:09 |
| stinebd | how old is it? | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | 3 months. | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | i have a 2gb class 2 | 23:10 |
| stinebd | so it's probably not wear leveling | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | that won't get past boot animation | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | same exact setup | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | can't figure out what is going on | 23:10 |
| stinebd | logcat would help with that | 23:10 |
| stinebd | as for the slowness, who knows | 23:10 |
| reverendkjr | logcat even if it doesn't get past bootloader? | 23:11 |
| reverendkjr | sorry, havent used logcat before | 23:11 |
| stinebd | logcat is activated as soon as you see the A N D R O I D line in console | 23:11 |
| reverendkjr | thats convenient | 23:11 |
| stinebd | to make it easier, if it ever reboots during the boot animation (or something similarly silly) you can run adb logcat on the host before the device is booted and the host will actively wait for the connection | 23:12 |
| reverendkjr | ahh... i guess it would help if i got adb working first. | 23:13 |
| reverendkjr | it always shows offline for me | 23:13 |
| stinebd | we have a lot of kinks to work out with these partition setups | 23:16 |
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| reverendkjr | yeah, but its fun trying to figure it all out. | 23:17 |
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