Wednesday, 2010-07-28

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x2is there any easy way to change the ststus bar black or use themes on xdandroid?01:23
Unholyboth are not easy do to the nature of how we boot android01:52
Unholywell not how we boot it, but how our images are based01:53
Unholyyou woudl have to mount it extract it, then replace the framework apk with the themed ones, and then unmount01:54
Unholyand probly sign thos apk01:54
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x2damn :/02:39
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hojoumy cats breath smells like catfood :(03:26
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOwow, that's abnormal D:03:26
hojouno, seriously. you should have a page explaining - an overview - of how this xdandroid works03:27
hojoui mean from basics like, this haret file unloads windows mobile and then loads from this .sqash file like it was a linux partitioned device or something03:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOok.03:28
Unholythats probly post 100 times+ on the forum03:28
hojoujust a few lines would actually work i think - i did search xda forums for this info and couldn't really find it03:28
Unholyposted*03:28
hojouit's like there is a huge gap comming from install this .cab to actually try and replace a rootfs file or anything the like03:29
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol03:29
hojou*sniff*03:29
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSTOP SMELLING YOUR CAT.03:29
hojouok so i'm not as stupid as my first statement might have passed me off as03:29
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI'm jk.03:30
hojoubut i've really been having a hard time trying to learn how this fits together - perhaps i just read the wrong posts03:30
hojouperhaps a few links to the important posts - also all i'm trying to say is, xdandroid.com would be a perfect place to put a dead-simple and short overview03:31
hojouhey, btw... my cats name is mittens03:32
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSo.. Original.03:32
hojouhehe yeah i though you'd like it ;) actually to be honest, i don't even have a cat03:33
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol03:33
* TheDeadCPU|BRAVO Goes and makes breakfast.03:33
hojouyeah... i just needed some attention. and somehow i pass as an idiot pretty easily :)03:34
hojouok, one noob question. I see in the tile "only msn7k devices supported atm" - and i get it that the diamond and other phones the like is such a device, but really what is "msm7k" - i mean what does it stand for, and i did google for it - and i also searched xda03:38
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOmsm7k is the CPU03:38
hojouahh ok, thanks :)03:38
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOnp03:38
hojouso i've been playing around a bit with the 2.1 xdandroid on my touch diamond but the only thing i really got to work was this cab (yeah i'm embarrased) - i can't even update any of the files, like rootfs, img etc without it crashing03:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWeird03:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWhat Diamond?03:41
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO100? 500? 800?03:41
hojouand now i'm probably being too optimistic, but is it possible to run froyo on the touch diamond? (also i don't know if i got diamond500, diamond100 etc - i think i found out it's mda, not cdma, but how do i found out what number it is?)03:41
hojouyeah see... that i don't get03:41
hojouit's the basic - without the keyboard, bought in denmark03:42
hojouthe first one i guess03:42
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThen it's Diam10003:42
hojouwait a minute, that might be why i mess up the updates - i somehow got in my head it was diamond500 - so what is the real difference?03:42
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOLots03:42
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOLaymans terms: Different drivers.03:43
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's a DIAM100.03:43
hojouah ok - what about performance, i mean - is one better or just different shipments etc03:43
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSo yea.03:43
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO500 is cmda03:43
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO100 is GSM03:43
hojoucool thanks - ahh03:43
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOand 100 is best.03:43
hojouright - so why the two different versions (and phew, cool)03:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWhat do you mean?03:44
hojouwhy is there both a 100 and 500 out there - is it for different bands? i mean for different carriers or whatever?03:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI said, 500 is for CDMA, CDMA = shit they have in USA03:45
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSo yea03:45
hojoufor different countries? i mean i can bring mine to other european countries and it still works (well 3g seems to not be working that great)03:45
hojouright ok thanks03:45
hojougreat - thanks man - you just doubled my knowledge on the diamond issue i think :P03:45
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYea, diffrent network types :p03:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol03:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVORemember, it's a DIAM10003:46
hojoucool thanks, yep i'll remember that - so about froyo (i know i'm pushing my luck here)03:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol03:47
hojouyeah well, how much does it take to try it out on the diam100 and how stable is it compared to the 2.1 (eclair right?)03:48
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI'd say it's about the same03:49
hojouok cool - so how is it done - how much should i replace, i mean there is the rootfs and img and .sqash files?03:51
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThere is a full package.03:52
hojoufor the diam100?03:52
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust delete the Android stuff on your internal storage and copy it o ver03:52
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYea03:52
hojouall the android files? and wow cool!03:52
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYou download the package, unrar it, then copy to internal storage. Then you copy the DIAM100 startup from the startup config folder03:53
hojoustartup config folder? can i use the one i have on my diam now (i mean back it up and reuse it)03:54
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVONo03:55
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYou have the one for the diam50003:55
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWhen you download the 2.2 package there is a Startup Config Folder.03:56
hojoudiam500?03:56
hojoualso this link: http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.21.6.10.AOSP.7z take from xdandroid.com front page - that's still 2.1 right?03:56
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI'll find the link for you..03:57
hojougreat thanks!03:57
hojouphew, this is a jungle03:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOHere is a guide btw03:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5163759&postcount=303:57
hojousweet thanks :) perhaps i can make more out of the guides now that i know mine is diam100 :P03:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAnd here is a pack http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V2.7z03:58
hojounice thanks man :)03:58
hojoubtw  RAPH100 is that the european touch pro then?03:59
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes.03:59
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThe one I have03:59
hojou<-- looks impressed with himself03:59
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO(I'm Norwegian btw)03:59
hojouhey cool :)03:59
hojouand i'm danish, but you probably figured that out when i told you i lived in denmark hehe :)04:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYea lol04:00
hojouok cool tutorial, but this part "Remember to copy the correct startup from the startup config folder" - they make it sound like it's obvious, like you said earlier04:01
hojoubut where is that folder?04:01
hojouit's in the zip somewhere right?04:01
hojoui probably should give you a break and start messing up my phone instead :)04:02
hojoujust one last question - i can't help ask - that diamond on xdandroid.com - it has rounded corners but otherwise looks like diam100 - is that the diam500 then?04:02
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt is in the zip.04:03
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes that one is the 50004:03
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut the 500 only works in USA and China so it's not the one you have lol04:03
TheDeadCPU|BRAVObrb, food.04:03
hojougreat thanks - gonna backup my internal storage and copy the new files from that packe, remmebering the startup files04:03
hojouwhy is there both a STARTUP.TXT and a STARTUP.TXT~ in the config folders? is that some kind of leftover backup file that's not needed?04:05
hojoualso that package link you found for me (2.2) - what thread is that in (just for future reference when i wanna try find the next release) :)04:09
NevroPushojou: I think there is two different configurations04:09
hojouah ok cool, thanks :)04:10
NevroPusIs there any difference in the files BTW? If so what04:10
hojoui'll check :)04:10
hojouyeah there is actually04:11
hojouone has ramsize and ramaddr - the other one has extra parameters for the cmdline04:11
NevroPuswhat's the cmdline parameters?04:11
hojoumsmts_calib=0x7a.0x5e.0x35a.0x37f and pmem.extra=104:12
NevroPusok, have no idea what that is:P You just have to try them both I gues04:12
NevroPusguess*04:12
hojouhehe yep ok :)04:13
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThe one without the ~ is the one for you :p04:22
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAnd here's the thread hojou http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71169204:23
hojouthanks :)04:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOnp04:23
hojouall the files on my internal storage with the pattern FSCK0000.REC - what are those?04:27
hojoukinda looks like old recovered bad sectors04:27
hojouthe 0000 is incremental04:27
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOthe FSCK files are something weird.04:27
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust delete them lol04:27
hojouconsider it done :)04:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: D04:28
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hojoujust a question about this chat (don't know if it's irc or the chat widget on the website) sometimes your handles - in the chat window - are red04:34
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes. If i say your name hojou the sentence becomes red.04:34
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSo that you can easily see a message sendt to you.04:35
hojouright - smart... hey btw, now i remember where i heard you name deadcpu :) you were the one who made that xdandroid video?04:35
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes.04:35
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMe and my sucky English :D04:36
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAlso, you can write the starting of my name then press tab to autofinish it : D04:37
hojouTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: nice04:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYea. It's very useful :p04:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAnd now that text is red for me : D04:40
hojouok - so one last question before i start the transformation. is it ok to leave some files behind on the internal storage when upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 (like sms log) or is that just stupid04:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOUmm.. Everything is stored in Data.img so it's deleted.04:41
hojouright ok thanks :)04:41
hojouoh well here it goes04:41
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: D04:42
hojoubooting up :)04:44
hojoucreating new data store :)04:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOyay04:45
hojoucalibrating done :)04:46
hojou<-- crossing my fingers04:46
hojounew boot image - nice hehe :)04:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOhehe :p04:47
hojouhey hey! i see the homescreen!04:49
hojouandroid version 2.2 - woop thanks for helping me :)04:51
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONp : D04:51
x2so um, as a side note05:02
x2so far anyway.. running the rc2 .ex2 was very unstable for me05:02
x2i went back to rc1 and overclocked to 700mhz05:02
x2no issues what so ever05:02
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOCool.05:03
x2rc1 my ram slowly dropped to 30mb and made the phone unusably slow..05:03
x2i didnt try stinebds though05:03
x2just bobijoes05:03
hojoueep i can't install apps from market in 2.2?05:06
hojoufirst some media thing shut down, now i get installation error unknown error +05:07
hojou005:07
x2you should be able to05:07
x2are you using the latest files or what?05:07
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOTry restarting :p05:07
x2what package is he using?05:07
hojouright good idea TheDeadCPU|BRAVO05:08
hojoux2: some package TheDeadCPU|BRAVO gave me :P urm trojan-something...05:08
x2lmao05:08
x2just wonering05:08
x2the latest kernels are a bad idea by the way05:08
hojouXDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V205:08
x2if you are using the latest stuff05:08
hojouoh?05:09
x2that one was bad for me05:09
hojoui might be... oh05:09
x2if you have issues then i would try..05:09
hojouso how do i find a less late/bad kernel?05:09
x2we have similar phones so i thought id mention it05:09
x2http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/05:09
hojouthanks x2 :)05:09
x20100715_225807 is the last one that works really good for me05:09
x2any later than that break battery meter and destroy battery life05:09
hojoux2: you got which phone?05:10
x2and umm05:10
x2wait a sec05:10
x2the one you have is OK05:10
x2this is newer though05:10
x2http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.18.7.10.RC1.system.ext2.7z05:10
hojouok so what should i do?05:10
x2download that^05:11
x2unzip it and rename it system.ex205:11
x2replace the one in XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V2 with that one05:11
x2just over write it05:11
x2i have raph80005:11
x2htc touch pro05:11
x2basically the same as the diamond05:11
hojouoh ok :)05:11
x2then grab this http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100715_225807-package.tar.bz205:12
hojouit's getting scary, but ok i'll try05:12
x2lol05:12
x2let me know when you have all that05:12
x2its just replacing old with new pretty much05:12
hojouthe first file won't download05:13
x2odd05:13
x2go here http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/05:13
x2get the 4th one down > htc-msm-linux @ 20100715_22580705:13
hojouthat one was ok - it was the ext2 that didn't work i think05:13
hojouyeah...05:13
x2http://htcandroid.xland.cz/05:14
x2get XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.18.7.10.RC1.system.ext2.7z05:14
x2XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.25.07.10.system.ext2.7z was the one that gabe me issues05:14
x2so i would avoid that for now05:14
hojouok05:14
x2witht hat bz2 file, extract it and rename the zimage one to just zimage05:15
x2no extension05:15
hojougreat that one is downloading :)05:15
x2delete the modiles from the folder you have and add that new modules and overwrite the zimage05:15
x2make sure you dont have more than one modules05:15
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uyuHello05:15
uyuIs there a difference between the Xandroid and XDandroid?05:16
x2also, grab this and do the same05:16
x2http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/rootfs-20100723-1b819a7.zip05:16
hojouok so three downloads total?05:16
x2extract that, rename the file inside to just rootfs.img and overwrite the one in your folder with the new05:17
x2yea05:17
x2your just updating everything05:17
x2after you do all of that, copy the folder contents to the sd card like you already have done before and boot it up05:17
x2it should run amazing05:17
x2lol05:17
uyuSorry, is this guide 'http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498' still in date or is it an old version?05:17
x2old05:18
uyuah ok05:18
uyuthanks05:18
x2what phone do you have uyu05:18
uyuTouch Diamond05:18
x2that guide works but its 2.1, 2.2 is out already05:18
uyuEuropean version05:18
x2http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71169205:18
uyuNo SD card, but does have internal storage - so can I install to that?05:19
uyu(4GB)05:19
hojoux2: thanks05:19
x2let me know how it works hojou05:19
hojoui'm trying the reboot first though, but i got all the files downloaded now and ready to do the surgery if i need to05:19
uyuThanks x205:19
x2make sure you delete data.img if you do go through with what I said05:19
x2the rest can stay05:20
x2uyu, you should be able to get it to work off internal, just put everything into the root of the internal storage and run haret.exe05:21
x2to get you started, go here http://htcandroid.xland.cz/ and grab XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.10.7.10.BETA.V2.7z05:21
x2that will get it working at least05:22
x2grab the proper phone model from startup folder and put it in the root also05:22
hojouyeah my phone still crashes on installing apps. i'm gonna try all those file after lunch x205:28
x2alright05:28
x2just take the folder you have and look at the files05:28
hojouright05:28
x2and extract everything you downloaded05:28
hojouok05:29
x2dont extract the modules though05:29
x2youll get it05:29
hojouyep cool thanks05:29
x2and rename each to what they should be05:29
x2nice05:29
x2let me know how it goes for ya05:29
x2delete data.img also!05:29
hojourename each? yeah i'll figure it out - i got this tutorial with file name listings from TheDeadCPU|BRAVO05:29
hojouyep thanks :)05:29
x2sweet05:30
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOUmmm..05:31
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYea.05:31
uyuok - downloading latest version now.05:36
uyuNeed to create 'andboot' folder at root of my Internal storage?05:38
uyuand copy contents of .zip to it?05:40
uyuquestion - how do I setup dual-boot on inital startup?05:42
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uyuWhich is the GSM version of the Diamond? Is it Diamond500 or Diamond100 (in the startup config)?05:48
uyu*Diamond100005:48
uyusorry about all the questions.05:49
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paalsteekuyu: for dual boot install http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=62379205:49
phhuyu: diam100 is gsm06:00
uyuthanks06:01
uyuShould I be install this direct to root or into andboot folder?06:01
uyuAlso I notice that there are two startup.txt's in the DIAMOND100 file, does it matter which I use?06:03
uyu???06:09
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paalsteekuyu: if you are in doubt, try both and see which one works the best06:10
uyuok06:10
hojouuyu: did you get it working yet - you asked just about the same questions i just did - i also got a diam10006:28
hojoui was at lunch, that's why i didn't say anything for a while06:28
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hojoux2: i think this is working :) So far scandinavian keyboard and danish dictionary has been installed - as has xda-developers (automatic update it seems!)06:41
uyuHello06:59
uyuJust installed Android on my Touch Diamond.06:59
uyuProblem though - very weak signal, no data connectivity - anyway to correct this?07:00
paalsteekfor data you may have to add an apn manually07:00
uyuok, is that easy?07:01
uyuWould that improve my signal? (currently one bar - usually much better on WinMo)07:02
uyuMaybe I should follow Apple customer support and 'hold the phone differently'07:02
uyulol07:02
paalsteekyes. got to settings -> wireless & networks -> mobile networks -> APNs07:03
paalsteekit will not help the signal problem07:03
uyuok, thanks paalsteek.07:04
paalsteeknp07:05
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bu_囧07:09
hojouuyu: use the home key to "add" a new apn. then enter "internet" in the first two inputs (that worked for me atleast)07:13
uyuhojou, you in UK?07:13
hojouuyu: nope denmark - you could call your provider and ask them for the name :P but i just found that "internet" worked for two of mine ;)07:16
uyufound my apn settings on this page 'http://modmyi.com/wiki/index.php/Carrier_APN_Settings#O2_2' - don't see anything for Denmark though.07:17
uyusure you can find it.07:17
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hojouuyu: if you run into trouble check the logs a couple hours back. x2 helped me change the rootfs, zimage and some other files tio make my diam100 work07:26
hojouand cool link07:26
hojouwhy can i only select "silent" for ringtone and notification tone, i'm using 2.2 on a diam100?07:28
paalsteekhojou: i think people had this problem with messed up partitions on diam10007:29
paalsteeksearch for this in the forums07:29
hojouok cool thanks07:30
paalsteeki think there was a fix using hp usb formatting tools or something like that07:30
hojoubut i didn't partition my internal memory?07:30
hojououch ok but thanks :)07:30
paalsteekhojou: yeah looks like its broken when shipped but windows not having a problem with that07:30
hojouweird, but hey windows is kinda weird, so....07:32
paalsteekyeah, thats right07:42
hojoupaalsteek: do you know of any windows7 partitioning apps that will work with the diam100 - according to the forums, diskpart in win7 doesn't seem to do the trick?07:55
paalsteekhojou: no idea. i don't have a diam10007:56
hojou*sniff* ok thanks08:00
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hojougoing to download GParted and burn an iso with it :)08:10
hojoutoo bad this company machine does not have a burner (yeah aparently it's a security issue, but usb/networking is allowed, duh)08:10
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hojouanyone here tried 2.2 on a linux partioned internal storage on the diam100? i read an article some time ago about someone not using sqsh file on a linux partition (for 2.1)08:41
uyujust installed with x2's instructions.08:47
uyuGetting MUCH better signal.08:47
uyuThis is really good, good job to the devs.08:48
hojoucan you select ringtone uyu?08:51
hojouaparently my internal storage needs repartitioning - did you ever do that?08:51
hojoui have to wait till i get home and can burn an iso to boot so i can partition my diamonds internal storage08:52
uyuI didn't repartition it, all I done was format it.08:52
uyuhaven't looked into ring tones yet.08:53
uyuThis is a REAL stupid question - how do I turn it off, the off button just seems to put it into sleep mode?08:53
hojouyou can't for all i know08:56
hojouunless you pull out the battery08:56
uyunice08:57
hojouhehe yeah...08:57
hojouor ofcourse you can reboot it (into winmo) and then turn it off :P08:57
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uyuI'm just going to install the dual boot loader - then I'll look at ring tone issues.08:59
hojouok :) and good luck09:01
uyudual boot works09:04
uyuonly have silent for incoming calls.09:08
hojouwhat happens if you try and pick another for incomming calls?09:13
paalsteekuyu: when you hold the end call button you should be able to select shut down but this reboots the phone09:21
uyuok thanks09:22
uyuhojou - there is no other in the list.09:22
uyuThis OS is eating my battery like crazy - is this battery life monitor accurate?09:24
paalsteekuyu: no. for me its getting down to 15% in about an hour and staying there for another 7-809:29
uyuyeh, just booted back into WinMo - still got 3/4 left.09:29
hojouuyu: the battery indicator is broken ;)09:31
hojouand it sounds like you got the same problem that i got with the sounds - if you try and start the "music" application do you get an error telling you that there is no sd card?09:32
uyuhold on - i'll try...09:32
uyu(just booting)09:32
uyuyeh - same problem 'your phone doesn't havean SD card inserted'09:34
uyuany idea on how to fixt these sound issues?09:37
hojoui think it was paalsteek? who suggested that i repartioned my internal storage09:39
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sle118hey09:40
hojoui've been surfing around a bit and it seems that the internal storage partion is (from the factory) messed up09:40
sle118there is a live PARTED CD floating on sourceforge09:40
sle118very useful for fixing internal storage09:40
hojouso you need to repartion it - and since windows can't really do it (as far as i can understand) you need a linix partion system - fortunately you can run either Ubuntu  with Gparted  on a cdrom (running linux directly off the cdrom) or use the standalone Gparted iso (brun to cdrom and you can boot from there)09:41
uyuSo all you need to do is delete internal storage create new FAT32 part, then re-install android?09:42
hojousle118: yeah excatly - i downloaded that and it's on my hdd now :) unfortunately company policy prohibits the use of a cdrom BURNER09:42
hojouso i have to wait till i get home to burn it09:42
sle118there is a USB key version as well09:42
hojouyeah - i don't have an usb key though... not here anyways09:42
hojouyou got a diam100 sle118 ?09:43
sle118no09:43
sle118I am in Canada09:43
hojouuyu: yeah i think so09:43
sle118CDMA DIAM50009:43
hojouah so you're... yeah like the americans ;)09:43
sle118not really09:44
hojouhehe sorry :)09:44
sle118really not09:44
sle118lol09:44
hojoui know how you feel :P09:44
sle118for one thing, I speak french09:44
hojoui only ment your mobile network is like the american and asians?09:44
sle118yep09:44
sle118we also have GSM09:45
hojouyeah?09:45
hojouso why are you on that other thing?09:45
sle118but the rates were way too high09:45
hojouahh09:45
sle118I have unlimited bandwidth on CDMA09:45
sle118the speed is pretty good anyways and good coverage too09:45
sle118hojou: so youre in London?09:46
hojousle118: denmark09:46
sle118sorry09:46
sle118I see09:46
sle118the irc server is in london09:46
hojouhehe it's cool - as long as you don't call me german (not that i know any german, so... i really don't care)09:47
sle118I know the difference09:47
hojouah right and my IP is probably german (company traffic is routed through germany)09:47
sle118;-)09:47
sle118I lived 1 year in France and 1 year in England09:47
sle118this does not make me an expert09:47
hojoucool :) i lived in nyc for one year '88/'89 :)09:47
sle118but I know a bit more about the culture09:47
sle118NY is pretty similar to Montreal as far as restaurants and culture goes09:48
sle118Montreal is safer though09:48
sle118;-)09:48
hojouah cool :)09:48
sle118ok09:48
hojounever been to canada - i tried walking the bridge at niagara falls but i forgot my passport :P09:49
sle118for the IRC log record, here is the link to the GParted live CD/USB to repartition internal storage09:49
sle118hojou: we09:49
sle118oups09:49
sle118http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php09:49
hojounice sle118  :)09:49
sle118this is for Windows users09:49
sle118GTG09:49
hojoulater :)09:49
paalsteekhojou: you know a german now ;)09:51
hojouwoop paalsteek  :)09:54
uyuAnother fairly BIG problem - the microphone doesn't seem to work. Just tried to make a call and they couldn't hear me.09:54
hojouuyu: ahh i think i saw that somewhere else - it worked for me though (i hope) just booked a reservation for tomorrow hehe09:55
hojouthe mic thing is usually connected to the diam500 though?09:56
hojouok i'm out for today as well :)09:57
hojoukeep up the good work everybody - and thanks for the help i got09:57
uyubye09:58
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sle118xdandroid: did you get min too yesterday?10:45
sle118I guess I sent a message to an automated script! LOL10:46
NevroPussle118: Yeah, guess you'll have to wait a while before xdandroid will answer:P10:51
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happyHELLO - is there anywhere I can download a V.stable 1.6 version?11:07
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hamagcgood morning guys11:51
sle118morning11:54
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sle118hamagc: do you know if voice search is supposed to work in the latest 2.2 ?11:55
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hamagchmm voice search? i believe so. i believe stinebd put that back in but i'm not positive11:55
sle118ok11:55
sle118Tried it, briefly got an animated circle in the middle of the screen and then nothing11:56
hamagchmm let me test it out in a few minutes11:56
sle118I got his11:57
sle118this11:57
sle118 WIN DEATH: Window{43d6e978 com.google.android.voicesearch/com.google.android.voicesearch.RecognitionActivity paused=false}11:57
sle118here is the complete log11:58
sle118http://pastebin.com/MxvvzR6711:58
sle118(I trimmed my gmail activity out)11:59
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WisTilt2Good morning people.  phh are you at the terminal by chance?12:07
phhyup12:08
WisTilt2hey, you mentioned the interrupt not being triggered... what irq are you looking at?12:08
phhADSP_A11 or ADSP_A11_A912:09
WisTilt2a912:09
phhna, A9_A1112:24
phhanyway12:24
hamagcsle118 voice search is working jsut fine for me12:35
sle118ok12:35
sle118will try again12:35
hamagcwhat device?12:35
sle118DIAM5012:36
sle118DIAM50012:36
hamagchmm, make sure your kernal and rootfs is updated and try again. may need to refresh the data.img12:37
sle118rootfs is already at rootfs-20100723-1b819a712:44
sle118kernel 7/2012:45
hamagcrc2?12:46
hamagcare you using stinebd's system or babijoees?12:47
sle118very good question12:47
sle118let me check12:47
sle118kernel 2.6.27.46-01129 balsat12:48
sle118build says full_msm-eng 2.2 MASTER eng. root.2010071012:48
sle118hum12:49
hamagchmm balsat's kernal12:49
sle118should I try stinebd's?12:49
hamagcnot sure what system you are on but i'm guessing babijoee's12:50
hamagcback up everything so you can go back if needed, and try stinebd's system to see if it makes a difference12:50
hamagcif not then keep stinebd's system and try glemsoms kernal to see if it does anything different12:50
hamagcyou may need to delete your data.img for all of this so make sure you back it up.12:51
hamagcbrb12:51
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Unholyhello12:59
hamagchello unholy, how goes it?13:00
Unholynm, its all good you?13:01
hamagcehh. lol13:01
hamagcfeels like i've been gone for weeks lol, whats up with all the netsplits yesterday?13:02
Unholysomeone said its whas freenode, one of the servers dc from the rest13:02
hamagclol ya but it looks like it happened 20 times13:02
Unholyyep heh13:03
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sle118wow13:07
sle118Is it stinebd's version that is pointed at on this web page: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page ??13:10
sle118there are many versions floating around13:10
hamagci don't think the wiki is updated13:15
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mes does anyone else see the launcher in the default AOSP build doesn't respond to the g-sensor?13:31
phhit's supposed to ?13:32
phhi've never seen any launcher responding to gsensor13:32
meslauncher/home screen?13:33
meswhat is the software that generates the main/home screen?13:35
phhlauncher13:35
mesthe one in babijoee release switches to landscape mode, this is what I mean13:37
phhah.13:37
Reefermattnessyeah launcherpro it does13:37
Reefermattnessworks TOO good i have to turn it off its annoying13:37
phhyeah, switching on keyboard is enough13:38
Reefermattnessyup13:38
Reefermattnessif i didnt have a keyboard i would see why you would need it.13:38
mesyes, that can be true, but the mount in my car is landscape, and won't fit with the keyboard out13:38
Reefermattnessahhh13:39
stinebdLauncher2, the default in android, does not rotate13:41
stinebdbecause as Reefermattness it gets incredibly annoying13:41
stinebd+said13:42
stinebdReefermattness doesn't get incredibly annoying :)13:42
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mesyes, a manual rotate might be better13:44
mesI'm trying to make sense of the build system, can an app like osmdroid be dropped into packages/apps and built there?13:46
mesthe build from the app store segfaults after a some number of tile loads.13:47
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stinebdyou need to make an Android.mk for it13:58
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sle118stinebd: where to download your build?14:37
stinebd?14:37
sle118stinebd: I am much confused since there are so many build floating around14:37
stinebdhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71169214:37
hamagcsle118: stick to the main thread on xda14:37
hamagcit will generally have the most updated files posted for you14:38
stinebdthose are prerelease froyo builds14:38
sle118I know14:38
stinebdin post #3 in that thread are the download links14:38
sle118Voice search doesnt work for me and hamagc suggested I use your build14:38
stinebdXDANDROID 2.2 is babijoee's slightly modified build. stinebd clean 2.2 is my reference aosp build with no modifications14:39
stinebdwhich device are you on?14:39
sle118I am on kernel 2.6.27.46-01129 balsat14:39
sle118build says full_msm-eng 2.2 MASTER eng. root.2010071014:39
sle118that was from the main forum page14:39
stinebdwhich device?14:39
sle1182 days ago14:39
sle118DIAM50014:40
sle118the most significant message in the log is this14:40
sle118WIN DEATH: Window{43d6e978 com.google.android.voicesearch/com.google.android.voicesearch.RecognitionActivity paused=false}14:40
stinebdwell the latest system images are 20100724 or 2514:40
sle118ok14:41
sle118let me check and replace14:41
sle118I guess I can keep data when updating such minor releases?14:42
stinebdpossibly14:42
stinebdi tend to not care about breaking things in between prereleases though14:42
sle118understood14:43
sle118I will take a backup with Titanium backup first14:43
sle118thx14:43
stinebdgood luck, let me know if that one works for you14:46
sle118even with an unstable build (prerelease), it rocks14:47
sle118if only camera would work ;-)14:47
sle118hey14:50
sle118The system I downloaded is XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.25.07.10.system.ext214:50
sle118so that's what I have on my phone14:50
stinebdmight want to try the clean build then, that has a later build date14:51
stinebdactually checking the images, they both have the same date14:52
stinebdro.build.display.id=full_msm-eng 2.2 MASTER eng.root.20100725.012122 test-keys14:52
sle118interesting14:53
sle118because I see 20100710 in "About build number in Android"14:53
stinebdro.build.host=joee-laptop < hah, i can't imagine building these on a laptop14:53
sle118build says full_msm-eng 2.2 MASTER eng. root.2010071014:54
sle118I will donload again and replace the system.ext2 on my phone14:54
stinebdi can't remember when i fixed voice search14:54
sle118and I'll try voice search again14:54
sle118I have the latest rootfs 23 Jul 2010 22:23:0614:55
sle118latest msm14:56
sle118htc-msm-linux @ 20100720_17162914:56
sle118I will try your build14:56
stinebdvoice search was a change in the system image so that's the only thing you need to worry about14:56
sle118ok14:57
sle118I did not see any progress on the Camera front. Anyone working on this?14:57
stinebdbzo did some tinkering and was able to communicate with the camera sensor, but i don't think he has captured any images yet14:57
sle118cool14:57
sle118I saw the build complaining about pointers in the Camera some time ago14:58
sle118I wish I knew more about kernel development14:58
hamagc07-27 15:55:39.870 W/IInputConnectionWrapper(  288): getExtractedText on inactive InputConnection15:00
hamagc07-27 15:55:41.180 W/KeyCharacterMap(  288): Can't open keycharmap file15:00
hamagc07-27 15:55:41.180 W/KeyCharacterMap(  288): Error loading keycharmap file '/system/usr/keychars/raph_navi_pad.kcm.bin'. hw.keyboards.65540.devname='raph_navi_pad'15:00
hamagc07-27 15:55:41.220 W/KeyCharacterMap(  288): Using default keymap: /system/usr/keychars/qwerty.kcm.bin15:00
stinebdnormal15:00
hamagcstinebd: any ideas on this? this looks like it's when the hardbuttons lose connection15:00
stinebdno need for a kcm.bin for navipad15:00
hamagchmm15:00
hamagcso thats not when the cap. buttons stop working?15:01
stinebdprobably not. we've had the same setup since day one of eclair15:01
hamagchmm15:01
hamagcsearch continues15:01
stinebdyou can symlink it to see if it helps15:01
stinebdbut i doubt it would15:02
stinebdit might be a good idea to symlink that in the future in rootfs, since there's such a warning every time android tries to load that kcm15:04
stinebdannoying pointless logcat output15:04
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stinebdwhen i say we don't need it, it's because the keys on the navipad are never expected to translate to characters on the screen15:05
stinebdthey're all function keys, like the dpad or start/end call15:05
xdandroidNew kernel available (20100728_205735) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100728_205735-package.tar.bz215:07
stinebdhmm15:07
hamagchmm15:07
Unholyhmmm15:07
stinebdah volume changes15:08
hamagcohhhhh? wis pushed it now?15:08
hamagchopefully it works on other than rodh devices too15:08
stinebdhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/0ac6681a5daf113ec6b20eee38867592683db88815:08
Unholyseems it affects other devices too15:10
Unholyim gona test it15:10
hamagcme too.15:11
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stinebdnot me15:15
phhyeah tell me what is broken15:20
phhand I think we'll need to change libaudio.so to be able to change sound level properly15:21
stinebduh oh15:22
stinebdwe don't have that forked yet huh?15:22
phhno15:22
phhwell you can try reading the code and see if there is any way to retrieve sound level from userland to kernel land15:22
phhbut I can't see any.15:22
stinebdheh, me reading code. this'll be fun15:23
stinebdthere is that unknown variable in libhtc_acoustic, too15:24
stinebdmaybe that does something interesting15:24
phhyeah I've thought about it15:24
phhand the libhtc_acoustic api is available through libaudio15:25
phhit doesn't seem to report the volume level in any way15:25
stinebdif we modify libaudio, it's just a matter of having it pipe stuff out to the /sys nodes right?15:27
phhor add some ioctl15:28
phh /sys easier, ioctl proper15:28
phhstill that's really a minor change15:28
stinebdyeah15:28
stinebdmaybe we could fork just libaudio so we don't have to worry about keeping that whole repo in sync15:28
stinebdand call it libaudioextremelyawesome or something15:29
phhhum15:29
phhthere is one thing we could do else15:30
phhusing codeaurora's libaudio15:30
stinebdwhat does that do differently?15:30
stinebdactually i have a qaep checkout that i was working building15:30
phhstinebd: see setMasterVolume function15:31
stinebdoh wow15:31
phhin our current libaudio, it's nooped15:31
stinebdthat's way different15:31
phhyeah :/15:31
phhI'm not sure it will work for us actually15:31
Unholyyup incall volume way lauder now15:32
Unholyspeaker is lauder also15:32
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phherr15:34
phhit shouldn't15:34
Unholyits is15:37
Unholyor im getting a plasivo effect15:37
phhthe setting is "forgot" on audio call end, i'm quite sure about it15:38
phhanyway you can thank WisTilt2 for the fix :p15:38
hamagcx2 in call is way louder!15:39
hamagcthanks WisTilt2!15:39
Unholyplaying quake3 vs 2 other ppl with galaxy S is overkill =/15:39
Unholythey own me XD15:39
hamagclol15:39
phhUnholy: that is weird.15:39
phhreally.15:40
Unholywhat is?15:40
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phhthat you're too slow on q3 to win15:42
Unholyphh: volume is still the same even after end call15:42
Unholyah lol15:42
phh(you're still on raph right ?)15:42
Unholyyup donut15:42
phhquake works on donut ?15:43
Unholyyup15:43
Unholyno fill rate wooho15:43
Unholyplaying alone its kind of fun15:43
Unholylets see if tunig off sound makes any difference15:45
phh+0.5fps \o/15:45
WisTilt2your welcome guys.  now if people could stop pm'ing me about how's the sound fix going, that would be great:)  Believe me everyone will know when sound is working.15:45
hamagcdamnit. snipervssniper doesn't work :(15:45
Unholyactually it is faster lol15:46
Unholyi dont lag tha tmuch when someone is near me lol15:46
phhUnholy: you lag when someone is near ?15:46
WisTilt2phh where is that setMasterVolume function located?15:46
phhthat's even better than knife ! :p15:46
phhWisTilt2: libaudio15:46
WisTilt2tks15:46
phhWisTilt2: hardware/msm7k/libaudio15:46
phhhave fun finding the one we're using15:47
phhthere are dozens of different versions.15:47
WisTilt2?? repo one no good?15:47
phhwhich repo ? :p15:47
Unholyoh ya bot's drain mt fps15:47
Unholymy*15:47
phhUnholy: weird15:48
WisTilt2gitorious15:48
Unholyits like the keyboard has a delay lol, just like if i had 1k ping15:48
phhUnholy: not bad15:48
phhWisTilt2: well I don't know the stuff stinebd have done concerning this15:49
phhI assume it should be that one thouogh15:49
Unholyim owning now iwthout sound omgh15:50
phhlol15:50
UnholyLOl i killed my borther and he had quadamge15:56
Unholyomfg15:56
phhkkk15:57
phhyour family has galaxy s ?15:57
phhand you're the poor one ? :p15:57
Unholymy brother does15:57
Unholyand a neighbour15:57
phhok15:57
Unholyya im the poor hahah15:58
phhjust say you're waiting for a gsm galaxy S pro :p15:58
UnholyXD15:58
sle118the wiki says "After several weeks, the build will be complete and the system is ready for packaging."16:00
sle118that must be a joke, right?16:00
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hamagclol yes16:02
Reefermattnessi guess that depends on your pc16:02
sle118not too shaby but not the high end16:02
sle118a dual core clocked at 3ghz16:02
sle118with SSD16:02
sle118drive16:02
sle118if it's IO bound, it'll rip through it16:03
sle118if it's CPU then I guess it can't go faster than my E8500 can16:03
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sle118If I want to play with the kernel of my own and experiment with various stuff, what do you recommend doing?16:04
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sle118I am sticking with the question...16:16
sle118how is everyone else playing with the system?16:16
sle118is the build incremental once first build is completed?16:17
paalsteeksound much better here too (TOPA100) without setting anything (call_vol is 5 by default now)16:20
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phhstinebd: is it possible to enable high def icons somewhere ?16:32
phhthe lodef ones look weird.16:33
Unholyreaplace them manually?16:33
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phhI could also use a non aosp rom.16:34
Unholyi guess, neopeek ported some froyo roms16:34
phhbtw, what is his current status for flashing ?16:36
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Unholyhttp://www.neopeek.com/en/community/groups/viewdiscussion/67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=1316:37
Unholycheck that post16:37
phhok so he got nowhere16:37
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Unholyseems like it16:38
hamagcya he is having problems with the touchpanel i guess16:42
phhlol ?17:02
phhI'd expect problems pretty much everywhere17:02
phhbut not touchpanel17:02
Unholyi dunno he dosent seem like the kernel savi, but hey im glad hes working on it17:03
Unholyi think i may have damaged my screens flex cable or something =/17:04
hamagcuhoh17:04
Unholysometimes the screen goes grey with black lines17:04
hamagcthats never a good thing17:04
Unholyye =/17:04
hamagcwinmo and android?17:04
Unholywinmo17:04
hamagceww17:05
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Unholyim gona try a hard reset soon17:05
Unholyif that dosent fix it, im screwd il will slowly die17:05
UnholyXD17:05
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Unholygah i dont want to theme .9.png friken retarded android, i think il release my rom how it is, maybe make another bootanimation17:11
hamagcthemes are a pita17:11
Unholypita?17:11
hamagcpain in the ass17:14
hamagclol damn interwebs and it's uses of abbrivations17:15
WisTilt2phh: that tone triggers right after line 721 in audio_out.c returns from calling audmgr_open. still don't know what we changed elsewhere that triggered this.17:18
Unholyah ok XD17:18
phhWisTilt2: hum17:19
phhsounds like system configuring output17:19
WisTilt2yeah and it does it with or without the cmdline external option so has to be something in audmgr.17:20
WisTilt2only happens with the version set to 0 also btw.17:20
WisTilt2confirming audmgr is triggering it.17:20
WisTilt2thinking about forcing device 0 and seeing if tone plays through headset also or if its unique to external speaker.17:22
hamagcso has anyone tired the psx emulator? i can't imagine it working too well on our devices with the resistive screen and all but i was wondering.17:23
Unholyits opengl2.0 only17:23
Unholymeaning qsd8 and similar17:23
hamagcohhhh17:24
hamagcdamn17:24
WisTilt2phh: we did do this change also in msm_audio_path ->17:26
WisTilt2snd_set_device(0,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED); /* "HANDSET" */17:26
WisTilt2snd_set_device(1,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED,SND_MUTE_UNMUTED); /* "SPEAKER" */17:26
phhuh ?17:26
WisTilt2both in phone audio start and end17:26
phhwhy both ?17:26
WisTilt2were just playing around and turned on both devices to see what would happen, this was when we first started playing with this stuff.17:27
WisTilt2dont know if that's relevant or not.  guess i could take it out and see if tone still triggers.17:27
WisTilt2that function is called during bootup even if a call is not made so could have something to do with it.17:28
WisTilt2interesting...removed device 1 line and now no tone out external speaker.  also not seeing the msm_i2c data errors i told you about earlier. in-call audio still working fine.17:33
phhWisTilt2: are you sure it's external speaker ?17:33
phhwait17:33
phhI'm missed again17:34
phh0 is who and 1 is who17:34
phhdamn speaker = 1, handset=017:34
phhokay.17:34
WisTilt2yes it is external for sure cuz its very loud and cant be missed17:34
WisTilt20=handset,1=external,2=headset17:34
phhanyway I have to go to sleep, and you really shouold consider talking to someone on your timezone like [acl] or jonpry.17:34
WisTilt2tone level is probably 5 times louder than handset.17:35
WisTilt2ok catch you later.  going to keep tracing back to see what we did to trigger this.  im betting on a runaway line of code in audmgr.17:35
x2i cant wait for the handset volume to be louder :X17:47
hamagcunholy, have you tried the snes emulator?17:47
Unholyhamagc: witch one?17:51
hamagci'm looking at snesoid right now17:51
Unholyit should work, iv tried most fo them and they work fine17:52
Unholyhmm seems gps is working on donut, google maps found me17:52
hamagcohh nice :)17:53
Unholyi never boderd trying i never use the gps XD17:53
Unholyit*17:53
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WisTilt2stinebd you still at kbd?18:42
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hamagcok guys, i'm off for the night. see you all tomorrow18:46
hamagcbzo: when you read this, let me know if you want me to test anything out for you on camera.18:47
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stinebdWisTilt2: off and on, what's up?18:48
WisTilt2hey do you know do the topaz and rhodium both detect as 6125's in amss?18:48
stinebdheh, no idea, sorry18:48
WisTilt2ok just a wild shot:)  thanks anyway.18:48
stinebdi would imagine they're both the same18:49
stinebdbut i can't say for sure18:49
WisTilt2not familiar enough with all the different htc phones, we only use Tilt2's here.18:49
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Paul__How do I get the new zImage to work with the 7/25 build?19:30
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MrObviousDo I just rename the tar.gz file to zImage?19:31
WisTilt2Just untar the tarball and put both the zimage and module file into andboot.  you'll have to delete old zimage and rename this to just zimage also. leave the modules.gz file like it is.19:35
MrObviousThere is just a htc msm.tar file.19:42
MrObviousNo zImage file.19:42
WisTilt2Are we talking the same thing here?  You looking for the new zimage from today?  Thats at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/...ackage.tar.bz219:43
MrObviousI'm using 7Zip to untar it.19:43
MrObvioushttp://zimages.googlecode.com/files/...ackage.tar.bz219:43
MrObviousLOL.19:43
WisTilt2not 7zip, bz219:43
MrObviousWisTilt2: Thanks, just get the rest of the URL and I'll be good.19:43
MrObviousI got mine from: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/19:44
WisTilt2ah, hang on...19:44
WisTilt2http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100728_205735-package.tar.bz219:44
WisTilt2that'l probably work a bit better:)19:45
MrObviousUh that's the same thing and there is no zImage file in there.19:45
MrObvioushtc-msm-linux-20100728_205735-package.tar <-That's the file name.19:45
MrObviousOh ha.19:45
WisTilt2i see both zimage and module tar files in it.19:46
MrObviousI had to use 7Zip to undo the .tar extension too.19:46
MrObviousROFL.19:46
MrObviousI'm on Winders so I don't have the tar xzvf command handy.19:46
WisTilt2windows!  im done talking to you now.19:46
MrObviousBite me. :p19:47
MrObviousSo do I need to modify the startup file?19:47
WisTilt2lol. you're talking to a linux guy sorry.19:47
MrObviousI know how to use Linux but I'm on W7HP.19:47
WisTilt2no, defaults to maximum volume.19:47
MrObviousYay.19:48
WisTilt2if too loud you can add the startup.txt changes to turn it down but most say this level is nice.19:48
MrObviousYeah. Or I could just use the volume keys to turn it down. lol19:48
WisTilt2no, they dont work yet.19:48
MrObviousThey do for me.19:48
WisTilt2at least on rhodium19:49
WisTilt2what phone?19:49
MrObviousDIAM500.19:49
WisTilt2yeah figures19:49
MrObviousAlltel Diamond on VZW.19:49
WisTilt2so has in-call volume always been too low on the diamond also?19:50
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MrObviousYeah.19:50
WisTilt2well let me know if this bumped it up a bit.19:51
MrObviousHoly crap that's what I have on WM.19:51
WisTilt2does your volume controls still work?19:51
MrObviousLemme check.19:53
MrObviousYup.19:53
WisTilt2good deal.19:54
Unholyiv got volume set to 4 but its to loud, il probly change it to 319:54
WisTilt2full volume should be louder than in wm but you might start getting distortion.19:54
WisTilt2at least we do with the Tilt2's here.19:54
WisTilt2Unholy what phone you have?19:58
Unholyraph11019:58
WisTilt2and your vol controls work with the new zimage?19:59
Unholyyep19:59
Unholydepend son what you mean19:59
Unholydepends*19:59
WisTilt2during in-call actually19:59
WisTilt2not normal media sounds.20:00
Unholyah ok yea it work liek a charm20:01
Unholylike*20:01
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WisTilt2ok thanks20:03
MrObviousThanks Wis for the help.20:06
WisTilt2MrObvious np.  catch you all later on.20:07
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NeoMatrixJRWisTilt2: how's that volume control coming?23:28
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jjj95695anyone have a topaz device that has working audio?23:45
jjj95695just wondering I cause I can't even talk during a phone call23:48
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NeoMatrixJR_MobiAnyone know how to turn on TP2 keyboard backlight?23:51

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