Monday, 2010-07-19

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Sakr2008Can I use SD card for xdandroid I know the wiki says microsd00:22
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOUmm, Your device uses Microsd.00:22
Sakr2008my device is  blue angel (xda IIs)00:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOHmm00:23
Sakr2008I really would like to give it a try.00:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust try lol :p00:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt wont hurt :d00:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO:D*00:23
Sakr2008:) I like the Hmm00:24
Sakr2008ok which startup do you think I should use00:24
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI don't know the current Android support on the Blue Angel lol00:24
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI don't know at all00:24
Sakr2008:)00:24
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI have no idea at all lol00:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI don't know anything about it actually00:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYou should try Googling for "Android on Blue Angel"00:28
jocalaafter issuing00:28
jocalamake installclean00:28
jocalamake clean00:28
jocalacd ./device/xdandroid/msm/00:28
jocala./unzip-files.sh00:28
jocalacd ~/xdandroid00:28
jocalamake -j300:28
jocalaI have no system.img file00:28
jocalacompile seems to have run fine00:29
Unholydid you do make with sudo?00:29
Unholyit need to be with root00:29
Unholyneeds*00:29
jocalahmm. that's not mentioned in the docs00:29
Unholysudo make -jX number of you cores+100:30
Unholydunno i havent read the docs ina long time XD00:30
Unholybut yea you have to run it with sudo00:30
Unholyelse compiler will get permission denied to some directorys00:31
jocalaok, i'll try that00:31
jocalathat's odd though. xdandroid is located in my user home dir. sudo shouldn't be required.00:33
jocalawhatever00:33
Unholydunno, i always do it with sudo and it works fine00:39
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defendthecommonshi yall. what's the rule for asking about why my kaiser might not be taking a haret install of VaniljEclair RLS7c... is this the right place to ask for help?01:17
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Xecuter2sup al01:26
Xecuter2all01:26
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MrObviousdefendthecommons: This is for XDAndroid.01:43
MrObviousBut we might have ideas.01:44
defendthecommonsi've been on the XDA forums... is this related?01:44
defendthecommonsMr Obvious..01:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONope, XDAndroid is made for MSM7k devices.01:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSo not oficcialy supported.01:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut could work.01:45
defendthecommonsever use Android Installer?01:45
defendthecommonswhere might i chat about kaiser installs elsewhere?01:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOTry #HTC-Linux01:46
defendthecommonsthx01:46
MrObviousThere is no Android Installer for XDAndroid though. You just download the files, dump them in your SD card, and run it.01:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMrObvious, There is a cab installer...01:47
MrObviousTrue. For lazy people.01:48
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ReefermattnessWell thats what installers are usually for  :P01:55
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol01:55
MrObviousWhat are you guys using for keyboards?01:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSlideIT01:57
MrObviousI'd like to get either Swype or the HTC IME keyboard going but haven't been successful.01:57
MrObviousIs that free?01:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSwype working on VGA.01:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONope.01:57
MrObviousBlah.01:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut it's on warez sites :p01:57
MrObviousHa.01:57
MrObviousSwype works? I thought it expired?01:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThough I have a HW keyboard :p01:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIf you go for the beta your swype will never expire01:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust sign up on the swype webpage01:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI have it on my Desire lol :p01:58
MrObviousI signed up but it don't support VGA.01:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOGo for SlideIT then :p01:58
MrObvious:p01:59
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust google SlideIT apk02:00
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOphh, you having problems with Sense on your Acer? lol03:19
Xecuter2damn, if that htc keyboard worked on VGA I would be so happy haha03:40
Xecuter2i rarely use the on screen kb but the htc kb owns03:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOHehe.03:46
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOTry SlideIT, Swype for VGA : f03:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO: D*03:47
phhTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: yeah.04:01
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOphh, lol04:03
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Guest44404hi, quick question i have just updated to 2.2 RC1 on my touchpro but the data now doesn't work any help?05:27
Guest44404how do i add the operator/carrier APN?05:29
paalsteekGuest44404: got to the apn menu and press the menu button05:44
paalsteekthere you can add your apn05:45
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Iosif[Blac]hi guys06:13
Iosif[Blac]a small/big problem06:13
Iosif[Blac]I dl the 18.07 ext2 file and put it in my Android setup on andboot06:13
Iosif[Blac]on Wi-Fi scanning told me that cannont scan06:14
Iosif[Blac]I deleted the data.img file06:14
Iosif[Blac]rebooted06:14
Iosif[Blac]and same message06:14
Iosif[Blac]cannot scan for wi-fi networks06:14
Iosif[Blac]can anyone give me a hand of help please ?06:14
phhwe don't even know your board nor the version you're using ..06:18
phh(we have 2.0 2.1 and 2.2 ...)06:19
Iosif[Blac]I am talking about the only 18.07 release made by babijoee06:20
Iosif[Blac]XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.18.7.10.RC1.system.ext206:20
Iosif[Blac]xda boerad ofcourse (the best ever :D)06:20
Iosif[Blac]board*06:20
phhboard= device.06:21
phhphone06:21
Iosif[Blac]Blackstone06:25
Iosif[Blac]sorry06:26
phhso we have the system you're using.06:27
phhnow, the kernel/startup/modules/haret ?06:27
Iosif[Blac]wow06:28
Iosif[Blac]hm06:28
Iosif[Blac]sec06:28
phhhow did you install all this mess ?06:28
Iosif[Blac]This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621498 zip version in andboot folder06:29
Iosif[Blac]and now I replaced the sqsh file with system.ext206:29
phhI'm pretty sure modules must be in the root mmm06:30
Iosif[Blac]the build was functional06:30
phhand ?06:30
Iosif[Blac]it hanged a lot of times..lol. but it was pretty ok06:30
Iosif[Blac]and now after I replaced the ext2 file I cannot scan for wi-fi networks06:31
phhlosyou have a modules-xxxxxxxxxxx.tar.gz in the andboot folder ?06:31
phhand the system.ext2 is in andboot ?06:31
Iosif[Blac]sec to check06:31
Iosif[Blac]modules-2.6.27.46-01108-g0cd9973.tar.gz06:31
Iosif[Blac]that is the only one06:33
phhmeh06:34
phhsounds right.06:34
Iosif[Blac]so...what is wrong ?06:37
Iosif[Blac]besides my luck ?06:37
phhdon't know06:39
phhneeds real logs06:40
phhI think there is a log app no ?06:40
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Iosif[Blac]log app ?06:41
phhan app that logs.06:41
Iosif[Blac]don't know06:41
Iosif[Blac]what should I look after ?06:42
phhlog ?06:42
Iosif[Blac]hm06:42
Iosif[Blac]not very specific :(06:42
Iosif[Blac]this ?  EncFiltLog.menc06:44
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phhin the list of apps.06:50
Iosif[Blac]oh, in actual android ?06:51
Iosif[Blac]you want to start up the android ?06:51
Iosif[Blac]oh, and is the low sound in calls problem fixed in 18.07 release ?06:53
Iosif[Blac]you run away ?07:00
Iosif[Blac]lol07:00
Iosif[Blac]just kitting07:01
Iosif[Blac]kidding07:01
Iosif[Blac]after what app should I look ?07:10
Iosif[Blac]in Dev Tools ?07:12
Iosif[Blac]I reboot in wm untill you are coming back man07:18
Iosif[Blac]phh you around yet ?07:44
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zlatkohi08:08
zlatkowanted to know if HTC Touch (Elf) is supported for installing Android on it08:09
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phhIosif[Blac]: yeah I thouoght there is a sendlog app08:34
Iosif[Blac]brb08:35
Iosif[Blac]guests in the office08:35
Iosif[Blac]back08:38
Iosif[Blac]if I boot in the android08:38
Iosif[Blac]can you tell me where and after what to look ?08:38
Iosif[Blac]and I have this file on my root08:39
Iosif[Blac]EncFiltLog.menc08:39
phhI guess you don't have adb working ?08:39
Iosif[Blac]noob08:39
Iosif[Blac]what is that ?08:39
Iosif[Blac]:))08:39
Iosif[Blac]me noob, do not missunderstand me08:39
phhpffff08:40
phhI really don't know how to help on that noobiness level :/08:40
phhthere is no easy tool to debug08:40
Iosif[Blac]ouch08:40
Iosif[Blac]maybe all i need is in dev tools / spare parts ?08:41
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paalsteekIosif[Blac]: there is a sendlog app in the market09:03
paalsteekinstall it09:03
paalsteektry to connect to wifi and run the app09:04
Iosif[Blac]hm09:09
Iosif[Blac]wi-fi is the problem :))09:09
phhpaalsteek: doesn't give dmesg ...09:10
Iosif[Blac]but thanks for thinking at me09:10
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Iosif[Blac]dmesg ?09:17
phhkernel messages09:18
Iosif[Blac]oh09:19
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phhd stands for kernel, that's obvious no ? :D09:22
Iosif[Blac]hm, not for a linux noob09:22
Iosif[Blac]I mean, now after your explanation it is but before, not09:23
phhyes that's ironic.09:24
phhI still don't know why there is a d there.09:24
paalsteekdebug?09:25
phhperhaps09:26
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Iosif[Blac]lol09:27
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paalsteekphh: my topa100 gets kernel panics since the update for newer topaz devices10:21
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GlemSomFor the last half hour (at least what I've seen). My phone has been without service - even though there should be fine coverage here (tested with another phone using same provider)... How do I go around debugging that issue ?10:45
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Gwuat-manhello10:50
Gwuat-mandoes anyone know where/how I can get instrucions on installing android on my Touch pro2 from sprint10:51
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOFollow the instructions i nthe thread..10:54
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TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's the same on every device just different startup.txt10:55
Gwuat-mancurrently I am downloading the file10:56
Gwuat-mando you have a link to the instructions10:56
Gwuat-manI am reading something on the http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide#Initial_Android_Setup page right now10:57
Gwuat-manae these s the instructions you are referring to?10:57
stinebd[00:29:36] <Unholy> it need to be with root10:57
stinebdno no no no no10:58
stinebdwish he'd stop telling people that10:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOGwuat-man, ask stinebd, I'm going to go eat10:58
stinebdTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: thanks a lot10:58
Gwuat-manstinebd10:59
Gwuat-manare you familiar with installing this software on a HTC touch pro2 from sprint10:59
stinebdGwuat-man: just follow the instructions on that page. use the rhodium startup config11:02
Gwuat-manhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Touch_Pro211:03
Gwuat-manthat page doesnt work11:03
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stinebdhttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide11:04
stinebdthat page.11:04
Gwuat-manok thanks ill try that out11:05
Gwuat-manhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/11:07
Gwuat-mandont see rhodium11:07
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Gwuat-manstinebed I got11:08
Gwuat-manit11:08
Gwuat-manthanks11:08
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syllabicnewest kernel is huge improvements11:13
syllabicresponsiveness wise11:13
syllabicit actually comes up fast enough for me to receive phone calls11:14
phhpaalsteek: delete the ramsize line from startup.tx ?11:16
paalsteekphh: i will try it11:17
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSorry stinebd I'll buy you dinner some day to make up for it11:17
paalsteekphh: thank you. it works11:27
phhpaalsteek: cool11:27
phhpaalsteek: post it somewhere on wiki perhaps11:27
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paalsteekyeah. i will at least in the topaz thread11:31
MrObviousAny way to get the HTC IME keyboard installed?11:34
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONo.11:35
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's non functional11:35
MrObvious:I(11:35
MrObviousToo bad Swype doesn't work. I'm gonna try SlideIt I suppose.11:39
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSlideIT<311:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOSlideIT even has other layouts.11:40
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hamagchttp://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/msm7kcpuspeed-overclock-tool-for-raphaeldiamondtopazrhodium/12:01
hamagcanyone check this out yet?12:01
hamagci guess so12:02
jocalaWhy is the current RC1 system.ext2 different from the system in the repository? Shouldn't they be the same?12:04
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thedicemasteri'm pretty sure repo system.ext2 gives you a "clean" system, while the RC1 has some apps and a bootanimation added.12:15
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jocalaso, that means that full source for RC1 lives only on babijoee's drive?12:19
stinebdjocala: babijoee makes binary changes to the system images he releases. like adding launcherpro12:26
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stinebdso his source is the same, but he then mounts the image, does some modifications and then uploads that as the release12:27
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stinebdfor the official froyo release i plan to provide a vanilla image12:27
Unholyhelllo12:28
stinebdUnholy: [00:29:36] <Unholy> it need to be with root <<< stop saying this, it's patently false12:28
hamagcello12:28
Unholyomg my bad, plz dont arest me XD12:29
hamagcwtf?12:30
phhUnholy: how is CM going ?12:30
hamagcfailed to find system.img12:30
Unholyuther fail12:30
Unholyit just wont boot? logcat says it cant acces or creat dalvik-cache folder for whatever reason, i gave up12:31
stinebdugh12:32
Unholyim pretty shure that if use an older zimage it might boot12:33
stinebdhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7251507&postcount=111012:33
Unholybut that would uh stupid i guess12:33
stinebdwhy would an older zimage make any difference?12:33
Unholyit did on donut couple moth's back12:34
stinebdmore likely you have to fix init.rc12:34
hamagcstupid delayed write12:35
Unholyi alredy compared the init.rc from the bootimg and the one in my rootfs, i cant see anything wrong, with the limited stuff i know XD12:36
stinebdwell the problem could be that you need some changes for cyanogenmod12:36
stinebdCM is quite mangled compared to AOSP12:36
Unholyye he has lots of scriptfiles inside the rom, its a pain12:37
Unholyo also tried to port Super D but it does the same thing as CM12:37
Unholyi*12:37
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOCM is even crap on my Desire.12:37
jocalathanks for the clairification!12:41
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Scepterr|GONEUnholy cm puts dalvik-cache in /cache instead of /data12:58
Unholystinebd what is cache bind? i tihnk i found what couses the loop, some else gets it if they dont set "cache bind" w/e that is12:58
Scepterr|GONEand there arent a lot of script files lol12:58
phhonly dozens ? :p12:59
Scepterr|GONEonly scripts are for extracting and downloading files12:59
Unholyhow do i change that? thats whats preventing the rom form booting12:59
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Unholyfrom*12:59
hamagcweird. plasma live wallpaper isn't in market for me anymroe :(13:00
Scepterr|GONEremove the cache bind13:00
Unholywere is that =D, noob here my knowledge is limited13:01
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Unholyany one else know how to remove the cache bind =D13:05
Scepterr|GONEits in init.tc13:06
Scepterr|GONEinit.rc*13:06
Unholyinside system or rootfs?13:07
Scepterr|GONEi would think rootfs13:07
Unholyhmm13:08
Unholy   # create dalvik-cache and double-check the perms13:08
Unholy    mkdir /data/dalvik-cache 0771 system system13:08
Unholy    chown system system /data/dalvik-cache13:08
Unholy    chmod 0771 /data/dalvik-cache13:08
Unholyi ahve to change that to system?13:09
Unholyhave*13:09
Scepterr|GONEno thats where its supposed be, are there a few lines under that about cache/dalvik-cache ?13:10
Unholylet me check13:10
Unholyno thats all13:10
Scepterr|GONEare building d/s or nexus ?13:11
Unholyhuh?13:12
Unholyi got a raph11013:12
Scepterr|GONEwhat branch are you building ?13:12
Unholydonut13:13
Scepterr|GONEohhh13:13
Unholyim not building13:13
Scepterr|GONEthough froyo13:13
Scepterr|GONEdouble ohhhh13:13
Unholyim modifing a system13:13
UnholyXD13:13
Scepterr|GONEoh god lol13:13
Scepterr|GONEyou could modify the xdandroid vendor setup and just build cm for it13:14
Unholyye but wont i need 2 more gigs? for the cm repo13:15
Scepterr|GONEatleast13:15
Unholymeh il just change the cache to were the rom whants it, cache/dalvik-cache13:16
Unholymy vm has like 700mb left of space and i dont feel like redwonloading evrything13:17
UnholyXD13:17
stinebdi have a bad feeling that SetupWizard generates android_id13:17
stinebdor something similarly stupid is happening13:17
Scepterr|GONEyou could add another vm hdd13:19
MrObviousWhee I found a bug.13:21
MrObviousIf you turn the volume all the way down and back up it locks up.13:21
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOCongratulations MrObvious.13:21
Unholyhmm yes i could, but meh my net sucks it will take me ages to download cm source, but yea il have to do it sooner or later13:22
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Reefermattnesshey guys13:24
Reefermattnessstine you around bud?13:25
MrObvioushi13:25
Scepterr|GONEhey Reefermattness13:25
ReefermattnessSup dudes  :)13:26
Scepterr|GONElots of tp2 rlses this month Reefermattness ?13:27
Scepterr|GONEat 2TB already :)13:27
Unholyguess what it booted omfg13:27
ReefermattnessYup, and hopefully more soon  :P13:27
Reefermattnessdamnnnnnn lol13:27
Unholykittens died all over the world13:27
Scepterr|GONElast month was 2.4TB13:27
MrObvious2.4TB of what? Holy crap.13:28
ReefermattnessXDAndroid downloaded from my page  :P13:28
Scepterr|GONEUnholy, no the kittens died when i ran cm6 on my hd213:28
MrObviousOh.13:28
Reefermattnessunholy what did you boot?13:28
Unholynever, cm4.2 is more powa13:28
Unholywell not cm4.2, Super D 1.11 it based of CM anyways =P13:30
Scepterr|GONEbw has been steadily increasing month over month13:30
Scepterr|GONE2.1 in may,2.4 in jun and 2 already for this month13:30
Scepterr|GONEare you compressing the archives Reefermattness ?13:31
Reefermattnessooooooh no but i should13:31
Scepterr|GONEyah13:31
MrObvious:|13:31
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOJust broke the 40Mflop barrier on my Desire :D13:31
Reefermattnessi just threw them into a folder was trying to do too many things at once at like 3am lol13:32
Scepterr|GONEserver is doing a constant 30-60mbit/s13:32
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Scepterr|GONEtry to get the sense archives compressed theyre double the size of aosp13:33
MrObviousThis is gonna sound dumb but can you put signatures on text messages?13:34
MrObviousScepterr|GONE: You make Sense versions of XDAndroid?13:34
Scepterr|GONEnope13:35
MrObviousOh.13:35
MrObviousI wouldn't mind having sense. ROFL.13:35
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMrObvious, There is a Sense build out..13:35
sarpedon2What does AOSP stand for btw?13:35
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MrObviousTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: Eh?13:35
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAndroid Open Source Project13:35
sarpedon2Ah, thanks.13:35
Gwuat-manhey stinebd13:36
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMrObvious, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=64102113:36
Gwuat-manjust installed the droid OS to the sprint device13:36
Gwuat-manscreen doesnt seem responsive13:36
Gwuat-manthen i try keyboard and it works13:36
Gwuat-mansometimes13:37
Gwuat-manunable to answer calls13:37
Gwuat-manbut the call does come in on screen13:37
MrObviousOh. That's old.13:37
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOStill is Sense..13:37
MrObviousI guess you can't do SMS signatures eh? Boo.13:37
Gwuat-manis there a way to calibrate the screen that I missed13:37
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOMrObvious, That build is the same as the one shippied with the Desire.13:38
MrObviousGwuat-man: Delete tscalibration13:38
MrObviousReboot.13:38
Gwuat-manwhere isteh tscalibration file found13:38
Reefermattnesson your sd card in the root folder for your os13:39
Gwuat-manok13:39
Reefermattnessscepterr did you say you are compressing those now?13:42
Scepterr|GONEim not13:43
Reefermattnessoh ok you were just commenting on the size13:43
Reefermattnessthats what she said13:43
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UnholyScepterr: now im getting this , http://pastebin.com/4tbPnhPA13:46
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Unholystinebd: any idea y this is happening? http://pastebin.com/4tbPnhPA13:51
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Gwuat-manI have deleted this ts-calibration from the device on my sd card13:53
Gwuat-manscreen still seems to be unresponsive13:53
Gwuat-mantouch pro 2 from sprint13:53
Reefermattnesswell did you run the calibration during haret?13:56
Reefermattnessclick the little white squares13:56
Scepterr|GONEbad permissions Unholy13:56
Gwuat-mannot sure will try again13:57
Unholyhow do i fix tha?13:58
Unholythat* Scepterr13:58
Gwuat-manwhat i did was during the haret (black and white screen ) saw calibration13:58
Gwuat-manclicked five spots13:58
Gwuat-mantrying again now13:58
Gwuat-manOk to my understanding prior to seeing the xdandroid splash screen I should have an option to calibrate....is that correct?14:02
Reefermattnessyes14:02
Gwuat-manmaybe because i deleted the ts-calibration I am not seeing that anymore14:03
Gwuat-manis that correct14:03
Gwuat-man?14:03
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOTs-calibration is where calibrating is saved14:04
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOif you delete it you have to re calibrate14:04
Reefermattnessnope, actually when the ts-calibration is missing is what triggers the calib setup during haret.14:04
Gwuat-manSo what I dont understand is this14:05
Gwuat-manif the file is missing and it is supposed to prompt to calibrate14:05
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes.14:05
Gwuat-manthis last reboot it did not and went into the android os14:05
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOEverytime you caibrat ti14:05
UnholyScepterr: is this right http://pastebin.com/WZespiUT?14:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes, because you recalibrated14:06
Unholyhttp://pastebin.com/WZespiUT *14:06
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIf you calibrate it makes a new ts-calibration14:06
Gwuat-manaaaaaah14:06
Gwuat-manthanks will delete again and try again14:06
ReefermattnessUnholy I think schepterr stepped away  :(14:08
Gwuat-manok while im rebooting my device14:08
Gwuat-mandoes the size of the SD card affect the performance of the OS14:09
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONo14:09
Gwuat-manok14:09
Gwuat-manwhat would14:09
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut the SD card Class does14:09
Gwuat-manOk what classes or optimal14:09
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO614:09
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOBut it runs fine on my class 4 and my class 514:10
Gwuat-manwhere is the class description located14:10
Gwuat-manwould i have to check device info14:10
Gwuat-manit's not inscribed on the card itself14:10
jocalaanything to unstick the RAPH800 capacitive keys when they get stuck?  (home is staying lit). Other than reboot...14:11
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Reefermattnessstinebd I have this error come up (http://pastebin.com/BgxMEa62) when I try to make. I have not changed anything from before when it was working fine.  Is there something buggy going on in the kitchen?  :)14:14
Gwuat-manIs there anyway to get my contacts loaded in the android version14:16
Gwuat-manto sync with outlook etc?14:16
Reefermattnessehhhhhh kinda14:19
Reefermattnesshttp://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq14:20
Reefermattnessright there at the top of the FAQ, under the pic of the Rhodium14:20
Reefermattnessdifferent ways to sync14:20
Gwuat-manOk thanks I will check it out14:22
Gwuat-manwithout looking I saw exchange and google14:22
Gwuat-manthanks for the link14:22
Reefermattnessnp man14:23
xdandroidNew rootfs available (20100719-dca2ed0) at: http://is.gd/dymGr -- Changes at: http://is.gd/dymGo14:23
Reefermattnessthank you xdandroid  :P14:30
Xecuter2XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.18.7.10.RC1.system.ext2.7z14:33
Xecuter2what is that?14:33
Gwuat-manIs there sound on the phone14:34
Gwuat-manlike volume for ringer14:34
Xecuter2yes14:34
Gwuat-manhmmmmm14:34
hamagcis there a way to manually edit the apn config file without it being overwritten from within android?14:34
Gwuat-manringer volume is turned up all the way14:35
Gwuat-mani hear nothing14:35
Xecuter2did you set a ring tone?14:35
Gwuat-mannope14:35
Gwuat-manlol14:35
Xecuter2what package or files are you using?14:35
Gwuat-mangues I got to do that14:35
Xecuter2use the latest files and it should work fine14:35
Gwuat-manthought it would have a defual one14:35
Xecuter2sd card was fixed a little while ago14:35
Xecuter2older versions will have the sd card not seen so ring tones and the gallery wont work14:36
Gwuat-manring tone set14:38
Gwuat-manit was set to default14:38
Gwuat-manstill no ring14:38
Gwuat-mani changed it to some others on the list14:39
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOGwuat-man, Which device?14:39
Gwuat-mantouch pro 2 from sprint14:39
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOTP2 has no external sound..14:39
Gwuat-manaaaaaaaaaaah14:39
Gwuat-mani saw some14:39
Gwuat-manthought it meant phone only14:40
Gwuat-manso what you are saying is it wont ring as the software is now14:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYes.14:40
Gwuat-manIs there a workaround14:40
Gwuat-manwhat abouit vibration?14:40
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThere should be vibration.14:41
Reefermattnessthere is vibration14:41
Xecuter2um14:43
Xecuter2system.ex214:43
Xecuter2if i use that rc1, will ineed to delete data.img14:44
Reefermattnessmost of the time ya14:44
Gwuat-manIs there an ETA on the external sound for the TP2 from sprint14:44
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONo14:45
phhGwuat-man: 2 days, 4hours, 6minutes 37seconds, 542ms14:45
Reefermattnessim counting then phh  :P14:45
phh.14:45
* TheDeadCPU|BRAVO Starts his countdown widget14:45
Gwuat-manlol14:45
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOEven though he doesn't have a TP214:45
Gwuat-manlol  again at TheDeadCPU?Bravo14:46
Gwuat-man|14:46
Reefermattnessphh whats up bud?14:47
phhReefermattness: vacations \o/14:47
phhbut I'm not really doing anything.14:47
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Reefermattnessbetter than school  :P14:47
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOVacation ftw \o/14:48
Reefermattnesshow does my phone like europe?  :P14:49
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOWhat phone? :p14:49
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIf it's GSM then yes.14:50
ReefermattnessHey phh you know if there is something wrong with the kitchen?  I have not changed anything but cant make a build now, and have a friend trying to run some toggle tests for backlight and routing for sound but keep getting compile errors.14:50
ReefermattnessTilt214:50
phhReefermattness: haven't plaid with it for weeks14:51
phhask stinebd14:51
phh(poor stinebd. I'm sure I'd love my vacations)14:51
ReefermattnessI think he is busy and I know he reads logs, so not trying to bug the poor guy, he gets enough of that.  Ill just be patient.  :)14:52
Unholyphh: can you help out with something =D14:53
phhUnholy: who knows14:53
Reefermattnessno unholy he is on vacation :P14:53
UnholyXD14:53
Unholyphh: plz =D14:53
phhUnholy: atm I can't14:54
phhI don't have your question14:54
Reefermattnesslol14:54
Unholyhaha14:54
Reefermattnessyou have to say it in french too14:54
Unholysec il pastebin my lgo cat14:55
Unholylogcat*14:55
phh*and* german *and* afrikaans14:55
phhand when I mean "say", it's really say.14:55
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Reefermattnessyou have to log into ventrilo and speak afrikaans for phh to help on vacation14:56
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOYou could also do it in Latin.14:56
phhwhat the hell is ventrilo ?14:56
phheveryone has been speaking about it lately, I still haven't found.14:56
Reefermattnesslol like a game server VOIP14:56
phhTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: that's so old fashioned14:56
phhReefermattness: ah.14:56
Reefermattnesshttp://www.ventrilo.com/14:56
phh"The Ventrilo Client and Server programs are copyright 1999-2007 by Flagship Industries, Inc."14:56
phhseems quite dead14:57
Unholyphh: heres my logcat http://pastebin.com/FyPzXETY, this happens after the bootanimation system stays in a black screen14:57
phhnot even opensource14:57
phhI'd rather use mumble14:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ventrilo14:57
ReefermattnessI dont even know what mumble is but its probably better14:57
Unholymumble is great14:57
Reefermattnessjust the oldschool gamers all use vent14:57
Reefermattnessfor mmos14:57
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOReefermattness, Not only old school gamers.14:57
Reefermattnessno youre right not only14:57
phhUnholy: W/HAL     ( 1338): load: module=/system/lib/hw/lights.default.so error=Cannot load library: load_library[1052]: Library '/system/lib/hw/lights.default.so' not found ?14:57
UnholyCOD gammers too14:57
phhif it's not that14:58
phhthen yet another strace :p14:58
phhbut add -s600 to the command.14:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI use skype though. I hate talking to many people at the same time14:58
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ReefermattnessSup Wis!14:58
Unholyphh: there also some chown problems to cache/dalvik-cache14:58
WisTilt2This is probably easier than pm14:58
ReefermattnessOnly slightly  :P14:58
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOOmg only 1 hour until Alien Swarm is released ! :D14:59
phhwhat the hell is that ?14:59
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WisTilt2dont have a lot of time right now as it is a monday.  we're getting the errors simply doing the make -j4 command so building everything14:59
thedicemasterTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: more14:59
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOphh, A free game on Steam.14:59
phhTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: more specifically ?15:00
thedicemasterthey just delayed it with 2 hours.15:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO1 hour and 1 minute then.15:00
phhFPS ? RPG ?15:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvIJL1Axc9s15:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO4 coop15:00
Reefermattnessyes thats the same time i am getting the errors as well, missing files, but i check and the file is most definitely there.15:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVO3rdPS afaik15:00
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOThey did thedicemaster ?15:00
thedicemasterwas planned for a release right now.15:00
WisTilt2lots of errors caused by java.land.ClassNotFoundExection15:00
thedicemasteratleast, i think.15:01
WisTilt2lang that is15:01
thedicemasterbut now it says 2 hours left.15:01
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt was supposed to be released in 1 hour15:01
phhTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: wow. it seems to have a real gameplay.15:01
phhand for the first time they do inovative gameplay, they put it for free ?15:01
phhOKAY.15:01
thedicemasterit's hardly inovative if they port a mod from 1 engine to another one.15:02
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOlol15:02
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt still looks awesome15:02
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOI love coop15:02
Unholyphh: i cant seem to find thos libs, could it be they are name diferently? i got lights.msm7k.so inside system/lib15:03
phhUnholy: in system/lib ? lol ?15:03
phhit should be in system/lib/hw15:03
Unholysystem/lib/hw*15:03
phhfine15:03
phhso that's not the problem15:03
phhnext idea15:03
phhstrace ? :p15:03
Unholystrace is evil15:04
phhlol what ?15:04
Gwuat-manHow do i verify data connection15:04
Gwuat-manI do not appear to have one15:04
UnholyE/installd( 1219): dexopt cannot chown '/cache/dalvik-cache/system@framework@android.test.runner.jar@classes.dex'15:04
UnholyE/installd( 1219): dexopt cannot chown '/cache/dalvik-cache/system@framework@com.android.im.plugin.jar@classes.dex'15:04
Gwuat-manTP2 from sprint15:04
phhGwuat-man: ping 8.8.8.8 ?15:04
Unholyim getting a bunch of thos on logcat15:05
Unholylet me get strace going15:05
Gwuat-manwhat app do i send the ping request from15:05
phhGwuat-man: terminal15:05
Unholyphh: what the command for strace =D, i forgot to take notes of it15:06
Unholywhat's*15:06
phhUnholy: /sdcard/strace -fF -p 1 -s 600 -o /sdcard/str15:06
Unholyok15:07
Unholyandroid is booting15:07
Reefermattnesswis, java errors here too15:07
Unholyphh: does strace get deleted by any chance?15:09
Unholyim getting, sdcard/strace/strace: not found15:09
phhUnholy: /sdcard/strace15:10
phhnot /sdcard/strace/strace15:10
Unholyye i put a typo in the error im getting XD, sorry about that15:11
WisTilt2reef: we're seeing lots os sun.security.x509.AlgorithmId not found errors also. forcing make -k makes it through and builds all the .so files in msm but then fails with "Target droid not remade because of errors."15:11
Unholy /sdcard/strace: not found. there15:11
Unholyim gona have to check sdcard for the strace.txt15:12
phhUnholy: I said you to push the strace binary in your sdcard15:12
Gwuat-mancant create a socket15:13
Gwuat-manpermission denied15:13
ReefermattnessWis, check private chat, i put a paste up of the errors im getting, now im not so sure they are the same.15:13
Reefermattnesshttp://pastebin.com/eRGB5ALt15:13
Unholyto late i alredy restart il manualy copy it to sdcard15:13
Gwuat-manI am unable to get data connection on device15:14
Reefermattnessgwuat does force cdma = 1?15:14
Gwuat-manunable to ping15:14
Reefermattnessin your startup.txt15:14
Gwuat-manill have to check15:14
Reefermattnessin that link i sent you for that FAQ there is a bunch of CDMA connection troubleshooting as well.15:14
Unholyphh: strace is running15:17
phhUnholy: same thing, kill it after a loop15:17
Unholyum.. i got past the loop, now its stuck after bootanimation XD15:18
Unholyi had to change cache folder in init.rc that fixed the loop15:18
Gwuat-manreefer cdma=115:19
Unholyphh: goin to upload strace15:20
phhUnholy: 1GB this time ? :p15:20
Unholyhaha no XD15:20
Unholy9mb15:20
Unholyuploading hmm its going pretty fast today15:22
Gwuat-mananyone have any idea on how to get Data working on TP215:23
Unholyphh: http://www.mediafire.com/?de3l4hx9m2owzhp strace15:25
phhUnholy: what's the problem again ?15:26
phh(golden fish memory.)15:26
Unholyprobly the cache folder XD, permission are nto being set right im guessing15:27
phhjust doesn't boot ?15:27
Unholyit boots15:27
Unholybut..15:27
thedicemastergoldfish, not golden fish.15:27
Unholyafter the bootanimation its stays in a black screen15:27
Unholyand loops what you see in logcat15:27
Unholyif that can be called a loop heh15:27
Unholythedicemaster: phh is leet there actually made of gold, so golden fish is right15:28
hamagcok guys i have good reason to believe the our mnc is wrong on cdma sprint. how can i test changes to the apn? i have replaced the apnconfig in /etc/, where else?15:28
phhTheDeadCPU|BRAVO: yeah right.15:28
phhUnholy: baaahhhhhh15:29
phhthat didn't trace everything15:29
Unholyi can re trace15:29
Unholyphone is stuck in (loop) still15:29
Unholyi havent done a restart yet15:29
phhi'm not sure it will help, I think you have to trace another process15:29
Unholyhow do i do that?15:30
Unholy /slap phh15:32
xdandroidNew rootfs available (20100719-dd8380b) at: http://is.gd/dyr9e -- Changes at: http://is.gd/dyr9c15:33
Unholyno thx xdandroid15:33
phhstinebd: you don't sleep do you ? :p15:34
stinebdphh: not at 3:35pm, no15:35
phhstinebd: I think that the common paypal account will be useless and that you should get all the donations :p15:35
phhyou're the only one working these days15:35
stinebdbabijoee too15:36
thedicemasterwill that update require a new data file, or will it generate a key with an existing data file too?15:37
Unholyphh: is this right http://pastebin.com/EjnuyYkS, theres a part in logcat that complains about permissions15:37
phhUnholy: don't know15:37
phhUnholy: you can set 0777 to be sure15:37
stinebdthedicemaster: it will generate a serial, but i'm not quite sure if android will use it15:37
Unholyok15:37
stinebdthedicemaster: please try it and let me know, if you have time15:37
thedicemasterhave to wait for a minute.15:37
stinebdyou need a market app to check15:38
stinebdor maybe adb15:38
thedicemasterjust updated to the latest zimage and now 2nd latest rootfs, and i'm in the middle of updating some apps.15:38
stinebdfor the market app, search market for "device id" and install the one called simply "ID" by some japanese guy15:39
Unholylets see if that did anything =/15:39
stinebdReefermattness: looks like you lost some stuff in prebuilt. repo sync?15:39
thedicemasterapp not there.15:40
thedicemastersearch results: space STG, and telephony info.15:40
stinebdhmm15:41
thedicemasterthough telephony info might do too.15:41
thedicemasterhm, nope.15:44
thedicemastereither telephony info doesn't grab the right ID, or somehow my phone got a different ID than the guy who complained about the ID issue.15:44
stinebdit doesn't have the android id in there15:45
stinebdjust checked15:45
Reefermattnessstinedb yes i think the repo is not syncing properly, wistilt2 is having problems building as well15:45
ReefermattnessI thought it was something i broke, so i even formatted just to see, and same issue.15:45
thedicemasterah, androidinformation does display the id15:45
stinebdformatted?15:46
Reefermattnessmy little linux usb yeah  :)15:48
stinebdyou have your source tree on a usb stick?15:48
Reefermattnessdoesnt take long pulling off that thing to install15:48
Reefermattnessno15:48
Reefermattnessiso is mounted there15:49
Reefermattnesslike 10x faster than a cd  :)15:49
Reefermattnessim sure you know that lol15:49
stinebdhave you tried to rm -rf prebuilt and repo sync again?15:49
Reefermattnessthat line exactly in term and then repo sync again?15:50
Unholyphh:same thing http://pastebin.com/PKq5Ldym gaahh15:52
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stinebdReefermattness: "rm -rf prebuilt" then "repo sync"...15:52
MrObviousIs there a way to calibrate the keyboard? Also there isn't a dictionary in the suggestion box thingy.15:52
stinebdcalibrate?15:53
MrObviousAnd I've been getting random places where it goes into the boot screen with the XDAndroid logo.15:53
MrObviousYeah or something. Like sometimes I hit the e and it hits the y too.15:53
MrObviousAnd if you turn the suggestions on it don't have anything in there.15:54
MrObvious*doesn't15:54
thedicemaster... interesting. looks like battery is still incorrectly detected(said something about 1340 during boot, with a 900mAh diamond stock battery)15:54
Unholystinebd: could you take a look at the patebin too =D15:55
stinebdUnholy: no15:55
stinebdbusy15:55
Unholystinebd: ok sry15:55
MrObviousI just thought I would point out a couple bugs stine.15:56
stinebdMrObvious: i'll have to look at the keyboard to see what to do about the dictionary15:57
MrObviousOk.15:57
thedicemasternew rootfs old data.img, still the old android id.15:57
stinebdthedicemaster: ok. figures.15:58
stinebdthedicemaster: thanks15:58
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stinebdMrObvious: looks like i can steal some of cyanogenmod's work for that16:00
MrObviousThanks. Will it be in a new rootfs soon? xD16:00
stinebdno16:00
stinebdthat's a system thing16:00
stinebddon't blame me, blame google16:01
Reefermattnessits always u dude  :)16:01
stinebdi can't wait for my vacation16:02
Reefermattnesssame error stinebd  :(16:03
thedicemasteri wish mine could wait.16:03
thedicemastercustoms still holding back my new battery :(16:04
stinebdReefermattness: i don't know what to tell you then. something got screwed up. i have a clean sync from last night that works fine16:04
Reefermattnessi didnt change anything, saw your patch last night, synced and blammo16:04
stinebdone last thing you could try is to "rm -rf prebuilt .repo/projects/prebuilt.git" and try "repo sync" yet again16:05
stinebdthat will force repo to completely clone prebuilt again. but it's a big repository, so be prepared.16:06
stinebdit's all binary, and git doesn't handle binary too well16:06
ReefermattnessWisTilt2 was having similar issues as well makes me wonder if something is up with the repo, the file that it tells me isnt there is most definitely there when i physically check.16:07
Reefermattnessill try your last suggestion and get back to ya in a couple hours, lol16:08
stinebdwait16:08
Reefermattness?16:08
stinebdwas your pastebin the full output of the make command?16:08
Reefermattnessyup16:08
Reefermattnessthen i forced it with -k and have a paste of that as well16:08
stinebdso it didn't even output the variables?16:09
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Reefermattnesshttp://pastebin.com/eRGB5ALt16:10
stinebdyeah, no idea16:12
hamagcfinally!16:13
ReefermattnessLOL16:14
ReefermattnessThats not good when you have no idea. :)16:14
stinebdwell it means it's not my fault at least16:14
stinebdthe manifest hasn't changed, none of the relevant repositories have changed, etc16:15
stinebdbut the good news is that i now have the android git web opened16:16
stinebdso i can look through it and see what's new16:16
Reefermattnessnice16:16
stinebd(nothing)16:16
Reefermattnesslol16:16
stinebdMrObvious: could i bother you to test an updated system with keyboard dictionaries added, after it's done building?16:18
hamagcstinebd: same android id here too, new system, new rootfs, new data.img.16:19
stinebdhamagc: got adb?16:19
hamagci do16:19
stinebdcat /proc/cmdline, please16:19
stinebdPM me if you don't want the world to see your completely non-fake serial number16:20
stinebd(kidding, it's totally fake)16:20
hamagclol gimmie a sec, i have to restart16:20
Reefermattnessstinebd if this doesnt work with a full sync could i bother you to try and pull it on your system to troubleshoot if its the repo sync or if its the retard (me)?16:20
stinebdReefermattness: i shall start a repo sync now, so that it finishes today. my download speeds have been horribly slow lately.16:21
stinebdyou're using the froyo branch right?16:22
Reefermattnessaaack i just went through the same thing, took 2 months to get comcast to replace my tap16:22
Reefermattnessyessir16:22
stinebdwell unfortunately our problem is not on premises, it's the node16:22
stinebdway oversold16:22
Gwuat-manthe voice speaker is not very loud on the TP216:23
Gwuat-manis there a way to fix this16:23
Gwuat-manalso im assuming speaker phone does not work16:23
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOOMG ALIEN SWARM IS OUT !!16:23
Reefermattnessno and yes16:23
Reefermattnessin that order16:24
thedicemasterthey undelayed it?16:24
stinebdwas it like that in eclair too?16:24
Gwuat-manwhat is the fix for the voice16:24
stinebdthe quiet part16:24
Reefermattnessyup16:24
stinebdGwuat-man: there is no fix16:24
Gwuat-manok thanks16:24
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOthedicemaster, It's out.16:25
stinebdi'm tempted to CNAME git.xdandroid.com -> gitorious.org for l33t git branding16:25
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stinebdwonder if that would work16:25
hamagcstinebd: androidboot.serialno=5d52w6k61ef616:27
stinebdhamagc: should be working then...16:27
stinebdand your android_id is the generic emulator one?16:27
hamagcweird, downloaded the id app from market and came up with the same number16:28
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hamagcandroid_id: 9774d56d682e549c16:29
hamagcfrom the post: Android ID, being 9774d56d682e549c16:29
stinebdand that's with a fresh data.img?16:29
hamagcya, let me delete it again just to confirm16:29
sarpedon2Is there any easy way to restore settings after a data.img wipe?16:30
hamagcmanually16:31
Reefermattnesstitanium backup16:31
Reefermattnessyeah manually isnt too hard either  :P16:32
hamagclol,  ok rebuilding data.img16:32
hamagcit's a pain. i have 3 email accts i need to setup each time and crap from the market.16:32
Reefermattnessstinebd thanks for your help, gonna go make lunch while this is syncing.16:32
hamagci need to find my crap from the market so i don't have to redownload each time16:32
sarpedon2It's not too hard to do it manually it just seems like an unnecessary pain if there's an app that will take care of it.16:33
hamagcit is. for the most part unless your doing alot of testing you should really only need to delete the data.img when a major system change comes out that requires a fresh data.img16:35
sarpedon2I just started using this last week and I saw suggestions of deleting the data.img when going from Beta to RC and then again above related to the rootfs update that was just pushed for serials so it was starting to sound like a somewhat common event.  But if it's pretty rare I'll probably stick to doing it manually.16:38
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hamagcit's not that common you just came in at a good time lol16:41
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hamagcper the thread: Got an unique Android ID now, so iMobsters is working, and probably also other apps/games which are using this ID!16:44
hamagcstinebd: i must not have had a fresh data.img, this time i got a unique id number too16:45
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thedicemasterhamagc: making your market stuff auto-install shouldn't be hard.16:50
hamagceh?16:50
Reefermattnessno not at all if you have the apk16:50
thedicemasterinstall only apps you always want, then do su, follwed by cp /data/app/*.* /sdcard/AndroidApps16:51
hamagcand that pulls the crap from data/app to sdcard/androidapps right?16:51
thedicemasterall apk's are copied to androidapps, ready for auto-install on a fresh data.img.16:51
hamagci see i see.16:51
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hamagci ran into one problem with that, using plasma live wallpaper16:51
hamagcit kept giving me an fc that way16:52
Tasty_boy_XDAhey guys16:52
hamagci had to physically install it to get it to work16:52
Tasty_boy_XDAwhich forum can i get apps and games to Android?16:52
thedicemasterand it should auto-add them to your downloaded list in market(atleast it does for regular pre-installed apps)16:52
thedicemasteryea, some apps need to be done manually.16:52
hamagcok, i'll give that a try next time16:52
thedicemasterbut for those just move the apk's you backed up to a different folder.16:53
hamagccome to think of it at this point the only things i really get from market now is sendlog and opera mini16:53
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MrObviousstinebd: Sure.17:04
MrObviousIf it's about ready.17:04
MrObviousI g2g soon.17:10
stinebdnot gonna be ready any time soon17:14
Reefermattnessstine, same errors after full sync.  Will be interested to see what it does for you.17:19
WisTilt2Just an addition to reffers test...we did the same and actually got it to compile without errors all the way down to out/host/linux-x86/obj/EXECUTABLES/vm-tests_intermediates/tests/data.  That tree is there but 'data' does not exist.  That came from acp: btw.17:22
WisTilt2reefers:)17:22
MrObviousstinebd: Just leave me a link and I'll get it later when it's ready.17:27
stinebdheh, still works for me17:28
stinebdat least it looks like it does17:28
stinebdyup17:28
stinebdReefermattness: no idea what could possibly be going wrong for you17:29
Reefermattnessare you serious??17:32
Reefermattnesswow did not expect that...17:32
Reefermattnesslol17:32
stinebdhamagc: if you get a chance, i'd like the provider numbers (mnc and mcc) for cdma. they come from the Add APN form17:34
hamagcadd apn form? the hero and moment use mcc-310 and mnc-12017:34
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hamagcwe have default mnc-99517:34
stinebdyeah, i need to find out which one is actually correct for us17:35
hamagchttp://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WiJ6MqqegRoJ:forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D460%26t%3D124051+site:forum.mobilism.org+air+control+ppcwarez&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us17:35
hamagc310 120 Sprint  Operational CDMA 190017:35
stinebdyou know when you add the Android apn manually?17:35
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stinebdthose two numbers are filled in already17:35
hamagcya 310 and 99517:35
Gwuat-manHey are there issues with email not synchronizing automatically17:35
hamagcgwuat-man: not that i've seen17:36
Gwuat-manI have one POP3 and one web (hotmail)17:36
hamagci have yahoo through imap and exchange17:36
Gwuat-manHTC TP2 (sprint)17:36
stinebdshouldn't all the cdma providers have the exact same apn settings?17:36
hamagci have no clue but not from what i'm seeing. but everyone says cdma doesn't use mcc and mnc17:36
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stinebdcdma doesn't use APNs at all17:37
hamagcbut everything i've seen thats sprint specific has 310 and 12017:37
Gwuat-manI have CDMA device17:37
hamagcya they use sic or somecrap right?17:37
stinebdsomething like that. cdma is insane.17:37
Gwuat-manthe data was not working until i changed the apn settings17:37
hamagclol stupid cdma, gotta love it17:37
stinebdanyway, android needs that fake apn to communicate with the telephony layer17:38
stinebdmaybe ril specifies the numbers?17:38
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stinebdyeah, 310 99517:38
hamagci was going to have babijoee add a sprint specific apn for the 120 value but he was afraid it would brake it for everyone else so it never got it for me to test17:38
stinebdso ril decides what mnc and mcc are for cdma devices17:39
hamagcgrr17:39
hamagcstupid ril17:39
stinebdril is not incorrect or anything17:39
stinebdit can be whatever it wants to be17:39
stinebdwith our full apns-conf.xml, does data still not work on cdma?17:40
hamagcnot out of the box17:40
stinebd(the full one didn't come with babijoee's latest system)17:40
hamagcstill need to add apn17:40
Gwuat-manhotmail sync signal just keeps going17:40
Gwuat-manone batch of emails have come in17:40
Gwuat-manthe rest do not17:40
hamagcwhen i tried the one you posted it didn't either, not sure if the big list made it in that one though17:40
stinebdit did17:41
stinebdi think17:41
ReefermattnessI dont think it did dude17:41
hamagclol17:41
stinebdin mine? it did17:41
Reefermattnessno in yours it did17:41
Reefermattnessjoees didnt have apns17:41
stinebdthen stop disagreeing with me17:41
stinebdi was right17:41
ReefermattnessLOL17:41
Reefermattnesssorry  :X17:41
Reefermattnessmisread17:41
stinebdahhaha17:42
stinebdi guess we can't set the carrier to anything other than android17:42
hamagcyour from 7/14 right?17:42
hamagcyours*17:42
stinebdi found the problem17:42
hamagcohh?17:43
stinebdcarrier has to be the same in ril's description and in the apns-conf.xml17:43
stinebdthey weren't the same17:43
hamagclol i love how you do that. in the time it takes me to blink, you found the problem17:43
stinebdi also found a problem with my local git repo earlier, some apns-conf.xml commit got lost (after a repo sync) which is why babijoee's system didn't get the new version17:44
stinebdi hate how repo discards commits that aren't pushed17:44
stinebdif you don't have a branch checked out17:45
hamagcnow is there a way to include a custom apn to test out without effecting all other users?17:45
stinebdGwuat-man: i'm too busy to help you right now, sorry. try the forums or others in here.17:45
Gwuat-mancool17:45
stinebdhamagc: new apns means new system, unfortunately. but adding the android apn doesn't affect anybody else because there's no carrier in the world whose name is Android, and mcc-mnc are 310/99517:46
stinebd(i cant recall which is which but you get the point)17:46
hamagcgwuat-man: best help might come in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=71600417:47
Unholyif do chmod 777, in adb shell will that change pemrission in the folder i specify?17:47
Gwuat-manThanks Ill check it out17:47
hamagclol those are right. my fear is that adding 120 for mnc will kill the data and everyone with cdma will end up with that because thats the only apn defined for cdma17:47
stinebdwe don't need to add 12017:48
stinebdwe just need to change the carrier name to the right one (Android) and not my dumbassery (CDMA Generic)17:48
hamagclol, and that will auto-populate the apn for us right?17:48
stinebdhopefully17:49
stinebdthere's a high probability that i'm still a dumbass though17:49
hamagclol17:49
phhstinebd: don't feel too optimistic17:49
stinebdphh: i'm wrong?17:49
phhdon't know, cdma isn't my stuff17:49
stinebdcdma is nobody's stuff, heh17:49
phhqualcomm ? :p17:50
hamagclol where is makk? wasn't he the main guy for cdma?17:50
stinebdhamagc: i'll build you a new system image to try out, ok?17:51
hamagcok17:51
stinebdi'll send you an email in 2013 after it's done uploading17:52
Unholyhey guys im trying to chown my cache directory, from adb shell, but i get operation not permitted 0o,17:53
hamagclol i'll still have my raph in 201317:53
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Unholyis there anyway to force it? like with sudo17:54
stinebdwow i am a dumbass17:57
stinebdi just realized i can test it myself with force_cdma=117:57
stinebdnice, keyboard dictionary works now17:58
hamagclol that would work but it wouldn't connect17:59
stinebdhey, as long as it shows up in the list17:59
stinebdi guess17:59
hamagcya thats all that matters17:59
hamagcbrb smoke break17:59
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stinebdhamagc: http://xdandroid.southcape.org/system.ext2.zip18:03
stinebdwow this makes the keyboard much more useful18:04
stinebdMrObvious: good call18:04
stinebdMrObvious: http://xdandroid.southcape.org/system.ext2.zip btw18:04
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hamagcok downloading now18:18
stinebdjust to warn you now, if you tell me it doesn't work, i'm gonna throw my shoe at my computer18:27
Xecuter2lawl18:28
hamagclol18:28
Xecuter2what is that ext2 for?18:28
Xecuter2im cdma -_-18:28
stinebdbig huge apns list with hopefully cdma support, on screen keyboard with dictionary18:28
Xecuter2oo, nice18:29
stinebddictionary is quite nice, but i haven't checked it for profanity yet18:29
hamagclol i'll get there18:29
Xecuter2would that apn list help anything except not having to make android/internet up my self?18:29
stinebdhopefully it doesn't make me type duck18:29
Xecuter2mms would be sick18:29
stinebdprobably not18:29
Xecuter2i still have the airplane mode issue18:30
Xecuter2when i go out of service ill switch to airplane to save battery18:30
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Xecuter2when i come back in or when im still out of svc but coming back, ill try and turn airplane mode off18:30
hamagci've been trying to get mms to go but nothing. i can send mms but not receive18:31
hamagc the problem is in the ril somewhere. it sees a msg come in but never actually gets it18:31
Xecuter2sometimes it stays on and i have to hard reset or it will go off but service wont be picked up at all and ill have to hard reset still lol18:31
MrObviousDid you get the right APN for Verizon too stinebd?18:33
stinebdall cdma are the same18:34
MrObviousK.18:34
stinebdin theory18:34
MrObviousWill it work better with this new APN?18:34
stinebdmy theory18:34
stinebdno18:34
MrObviousDrat lol.18:34
bzostinebd: some apns-conf.xml commit got lost (after a repo sync) <-- does this mean I have a +1 pitchforking credit?18:34
stinebdbzo: yes18:34
MrObviousI hate how you can't control roaming, 3G/2G switching, and other options from XDAndroid yet for CDMA.18:34
MrObviousI hate to do it from WM.18:34
MrObvious*have18:34
bzoyes! :)18:34
Xecuter2meh18:34
Xecuter2im on boost mobile with a touch pro :x18:35
Xecuter2i dont care about roaming18:35
Xecuter2spring 100%18:35
Xecuter2sprint18:35
MrObviousI have Verizon and my phone just up and decided to switch to roam off a Sprint tower on my Alltel Diamond and I couldn't text or make phone calls. The nearest Verizon tower was ten minutes away.18:35
Xecuter2LOL18:35
Xecuter2thats stupid18:35
MrObviousI'll give it a try.18:36
hamagclol well...18:36
MrObviousShould I wipe out the data.img?18:36
Xecuter2thing is.. sprint and vz have roaming agreements18:36
hamagcit autopopulated the apn field but it's not selected so we'll have to go in and give it a green dot lol18:36
Xecuter2so it should work either way18:36
MrObviousXecuter2: I know but this particular tower wasn't roamable under Verizon, but it was with Alltel.18:36
Xecuter2ahh18:37
stinebdhamagc: thats ok, i have another trick for it then18:37
Xecuter2interesting18:37
MrObviousI think it's because it's maintained under Nextech.18:37
hamagcok18:37
* MrObvious doesn't wanna work tonight.18:37
MrObviousstinebd: How easy would it be to make XDAndroid more CDMA friendly? I mean it works (data and SMS and voice) but you can't change to EVDO or 1x, turn on or off roaming, etc.18:38
MrObviousI'm just asking.18:38
stinebdMrObvious: ask someone with cdma18:38
bzoprobably not easy. I imagine it would require RIL support and Android support18:39
hamagci think we would have to rip a cdma dependant froyo to really make it cdma friendly18:39
MrObviousCool.18:40
hamagceverything we have now it from gsm builds or builds where the devs are gsm and develop for gsm18:40
MrObviousYeah I noticed.18:40
hamagcbut once bzo builds our new ril...\ :p18:40
MrObviousWould you need like a builded ROM from another CDMA phone?18:40
MrObviousSuch as the Moto Droid?18:41
Xecuter2was gonna say18:41
hamagcwe have access to cdma builds. such as the hero which i think is closer to our build18:41
Xecuter2we have tons and TONS of cdma roms18:41
MrObviousOh ok.18:41
Xecuter2the hero IS extremely close18:41
MrObviousI'm asking because I frankly don't know.18:41
Xecuter2thats the phone I was going to get18:41
hamagcbut we don't have the dev support to really work backwards on them.18:41
bzoyeah, but no Android source?18:41
MrObviousYeah it is close. I think it has most of the same hardware IIRC.18:42
hamagcya no android source that i know of18:42
MrObvious(as the Diamond)18:42
Xecuter2it does18:42
Xecuter2minus the hardware KB18:42
hamagcdifferent processor and different camera18:42
Xecuter2and it runs android by default18:42
hamagcthey have a msm720018:42
hamagcwe have an msm7somethingelse18:42
MrObviousOh.18:42
MrObviousOk.18:42
bzophh: still up?18:43
MrObviousstinebd: Booting now.18:43
Xecuter2i got to play with an EVO a few days ago18:43
Xecuter2pretty amazing how fast it is18:43
MrObviousWell if it becomes available I'd love it. :D18:43
Xecuter2but i need a hardware kb18:43
MrObviousXecuter2: Try Swype?18:43
MrObviousI used it on WM and it ain't bad.18:43
Xecuter2swype is ok18:43
Xecuter2yea, me too but i still really prefer the HTC software kb vs swype and hw kb over that18:44
bzofor us Sprint SERO holdouts, it's going to be tempting to get a real Android phone Oct 118:44
Xecuter2im weird i guess but im extremely fast on the touch pros hardware kb18:44
MrObviousAh. I'm fast on a BB keyboard.18:44
hamagcbzo: what happens on 10/1?18:44
MrObviousI just am.18:44
hamagcsero opening up to android?!?18:44
bzorumor is a $40 SERO plan that will allow any phone18:45
hamagcohh, that would be nice!18:45
Reefermattnesssame here Xecuter2 i cant even type half as fast on software kb18:45
hamagcfor the love of god i hope we can jsut roll over.18:45
bzo$10 extra on top of that for any 4G phone though18:45
Xecuter2lol18:45
hamagcstill better than anything else they offer, i'm at 37 now with insurance18:45
MrObvioushttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=49594&stc=1&d=1258993587 <-That's the keyboard I made for FingerKeyboard. I found a WVGA one and ported it and changed it up a bit.18:45
Xecuter2i pay 50$ no tax for mine now18:45
Xecuter2booost mobile ftw18:45
MrObviousXecuter2: Dang nice. I may just go to Boost hehe.18:46
hamagci've been wanting to pick up a hero with a bad esn to see if i can hack the crap with my tp's esn just to get a native android device on my sero18:46
Xecuter2you have to activate with a boost phone then make a sprint account using the boost number, then just click switch phones and put in the new phones ESN haha18:46
Xecuter2thing is.. i really would like to know if 4g phones would work.. i have a feeling they wont18:47
Xecuter2the samsung EPIC and the htc EVO are amazing18:47
bzohamagc: well, no need for that come 10/1. You should even be able to buy phones at the subsidized prices18:47
hamagchell i'd sign another 2 years on sero for that lol18:48
hamagci've been out of contact for like 2 years now18:48
Xecuter2lol18:48
bzoyeah, even $40/month is a pretty great deal18:48
Xecuter2whats sero?18:48
hamagchell ya it is18:48
hamagcxecuter2: google it18:48
Xecuter2oh18:49
Xecuter2lol18:49
MrObviousI almost could get on my aunt's plan.18:50
bzoXecuter2: what phone do you have?18:51
Xecuter2htc touch pro18:51
Xecuter2probably going to get a samsung moment shortly..18:51
Xecuter2i am contect for now with the touch pro after all the latest xdandroid stuff :)18:51
bzowonder if that boost/sprint esn swap trick works with phones that require the everything data plan?18:52
Xecuter2i cant even stand winmo what so ever now18:52
Xecuter2thats what im wondering18:52
Xecuter2you mean like the evo?18:52
Xecuter24g phones18:52
bzoyeah, or even the hero18:52
Xecuter2the hero will work for sure if the touch pro will18:52
Xecuter2all phones DID work besides the palm's18:52
Xecuter2since they use a different type of esn18:53
MrObviousWhat exactly are you talking about?18:53
Xecuter2and OTA activation18:53
bzonah, then the hero won't work. It has the same restriction as the palms18:53
Xecuter2ehh18:53
Xecuter2lets find out :p18:53
hamagcany android phoen will not work on sero, the tp2 was the last high end device to be allowed18:54
Xecuter2gayy, i duno18:54
Xecuter2the touch pro 2 works18:54
bzoMrObvious: trick to add sprint phones to boost accounts - read a couple pages up18:54
bzotouch pro 2 has no restrictions, I just added one to my account18:54
hamagcya that was the last smartphone without restrictions18:54
Xecuter2its not a restriction per say, its that the palms are activate a different way that cant be done online18:54
MrObviousOh ok. So you can't put any Sprint phone on Boost?18:54
Xecuter2yea you can18:54
Xecuter2most of them18:54
Xecuter2ive had a titan and a touch pro so far18:55
Xecuter2in a few weeks ill have a moment18:55
Xecuter2BUT, if you call boost and try to get them to do it for you, most reps wont18:55
Xecuter2so you either have to get a rep that is willing to do it for you, or get the online trick to work, like I did18:56
Xecuter2if i want to swap phones now it takes like 5 mins max18:56
hamagchave you seen the i1 yet? i've been curious to see how that will work with sero18:56
Xecuter2gross18:56
Xecuter2iden sucks18:56
Xecuter2if you like extremely slow data then get an iden phone..18:56
Xecuter2they are useful for chirp and phone calls only18:57
Xecuter2sms even sucks on them :/18:57
MrObvious:\18:57
Xecuter2and why does the i1 run cupcake?...18:57
Xecuter2oh yea, you have to be connected to wifi to use data on it as well lol18:57
hamagclol thats why i can't imagine it being very restricted but this is sprint18:57
Xecuter2it has its ups and downs18:58
Xecuter2no roaming at all on VZ unlike if you actually had sprint18:58
Xecuter2you get 300mb of data on vz towers which is pretty useful..18:58
Xecuter2with boost you have sprint and sprint towers only18:58
Xecuter2but hey, they are all evdo rev a(so far) 1mbit+18:59
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ReefermattnessThis is driving me crazy!!!19:32
Reefermattnesslol19:32
hamagcstill broken?19:32
Reefermattnessyup19:32
hamagclol grr19:32
hamagctonight hopefully i'll burn my ubuntu dvd and try my hand at building crap19:33
stinebdhamagc: this might be better: http://xdandroid.southcape.org/system.ext2.zip19:34
stinebdif not, then screw cdma19:34
hamagcok let me download.19:34
Reefermattnessi would smash my keyboard if i didnt pay so much for it  :P19:40
Reefermattnessi just had this working yesterday wtf lol19:40
stinebdwelcome to my world19:47
stinebdthe cost of admission is your sanity19:47
ReefermattnessROFL19:47
Reefermattnesstoo late19:47
hamagcstinebd: data off the bat19:48
stinebdhamagc: you're kidding me19:48
stinebdwith a fresh data.img?19:48
hamagcwith a fresh data.img, apn is populated and selected on first start :)19:48
stinebdholy19:48
stinebdguess i better push it then19:49
stinebdbefore i forget, repo sync and kill it19:49
hamagclol19:49
hamagcgrr and now my icon dissappeared.19:49
hamagcbut the apn info is there and that worked19:49
hamagcup it's back now :)19:49
stinebdmaybe mms will work19:50
stinebdi set the apn type to *19:50
stinebdwhich supposedly handles all types of data19:50
stinebdblack magic etc19:50
hamagclol what did you use for password?19:50
hamagci see ****19:50
stinebd*19:51
stinebdi think19:51
hamagclol well it gave me 4 (doesn't matter)19:51
stinebdoh19:51
stinebd"none"19:51
stinebdso ****19:51
hamagclol makes sense19:51
hamagcyou my friend are a mad scientist19:51
stinebdmad in the angry sense, not the crazy sense19:51
stinebdwell, both really19:51
hamagclol19:52
stinebdthanks for testing again19:52
Reefermattnessthe anger eventually makes you crazy19:52
hamagcanything else you want me to look at before i take off for the day?19:52
hamagcnot a problem19:52
stinebdnope, i'm pretty much done for now too, thanks19:52
hamagcuntil tomorrow!19:52
hamagcok goodnight guys. don't forget to puch that before you lose it lol19:53
Reefermattnesslater ham19:53
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jjj95695is it common to install incremental updates and have XDAndriod freeze during boot?19:57
jjj95695is there anyway to get a log of the boot so I can read the kernel panic I get?20:05
Unholyyea get adb20:09
Unholyhave the phne in active sync then boot android20:09
Unholythen do adb logcat20:09
Unholywhile its booting20:09
jjj95695ok20:10
Unholyif not, do adb shell20:11
Unholythen dmesg20:11
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jjj95695it just says waiting for device20:18
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jjj95695I can't use adb shell either20:25
Unholyyou on windows or linux?20:35
jjj95695lol I need the usb driver20:39
jjj95695and I see it has an eclipse addon20:39
Unholythe adnroid sdk should include20:39
Unholyandroid*20:40
jjj95695yeah it was just having problems getting the repository.xml20:40
jjj95695wish I had sound in XDAndroid20:41
Unholyyou on tp2?20:42
jjj95695using an htc pure20:42
Unholyah20:42
Unholyno idea about topaz20:42
Reefermattnessmight be soon jjj  :)20:43
jjj95695using 21.6.10 build20:43
stinebdcool, made an ota package20:44
stinebd(so much for being done for the night)20:44
stinebdnow all we have to do is integrate ota updates into the android system and rootfs20:44
stinebdpiece of cake?20:44
Reefermattnessfor you, probably20:45
stinebdhah20:45
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jjj95695ran dmesg and it's all full of audmgr failed to connect to audmgr svc20:49
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stinebdre-added slide to answer screen21:07
Xecuter2zomg21:09
Xecuter2tell me when thats up21:09
jjj95695well all builds past21.6.10 have not been able to even get through th text portion of booting21:10
jjj95695I just copy the new kernel over the old one right21:22
jjj95695tried using kernel 20100718_213746 and got a paging error  right after the setupmodem.sh part of the boot21:42
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MrObviousstinebd: It seems better.21:49
stinebdMrObvious: what's that?21:49
MrObviousKeyboard.21:49
stinebdall i did was add dictionary. does it work?21:49
MrObviousYup.21:49
stinebdok, good21:49
MrObviousI just wish I had a bigger screen to use with it though. :\21:49
MrObviousIt is so small.21:50
MrObviousThere is a 2.1 CDMA source.21:51
MrObviousWould that be close enough?21:51
jjj95695and I wish I knew what you guys are laking about21:52
jjj95695I only got to senior status in Computer Science so I lag behind in programming21:53
jjj95695gonna try the build released on 27 jun21:57
jjj95695hmm you need linux to get the source code don't you22:09
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jocalastinebd: I just repo sync; make and the APN for Sprint CDMA works perfectly. This was with a fresh data.img23:07
jjj95695well obviously i got the wrong phone about the only thing I can do is make calls and other than vibration mode I wouldn't know when I was getting a call23:11
ke-When do you guys think roms will start showing up for Wildfire after a working root is released?23:25
stinebdwtf is wildfire?23:25
Unholy0o23:25
ke-Haha23:26
ke-HTC Wildfire23:26
ke-You gotta' be shitting me...23:26
Unholyhuh?23:26
stinebdthis place has nothing to do with phones that run android natively23:27
stinebd(yes i did have to look it up)23:27
ke-Hmm ok23:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOke-, It's a HTC Desire only shit cheap.23:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOAnd smaller, with a shit screen.23:28
jocalathis is everything old is new again irc :)23:28
stinebdmore importantly, it's not one of our targets23:28
ke-Don't tell me, I know what it is, hehe23:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOll :p23:28
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOok stinebd :p23:28
Unholyhtc wildfire is nowere near the same as the desire23:29
Unholydesire=qsd8k23:29
Unholywildfire=msm7k23:29
TheDeadCPU|BRAVOIt's based on it23:29
stinebd722523:29
TheDeadCPU|BRAVONow stop talking native android here as per stinebd23:30
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jjj95695wow I can't really understand all of this dmesg stuff23:51
jjj95695anyone else have a htc pure or similar phone?23:53
jjj95695what is msm i2c23:55

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