| d3tul3 | i gotta hit the sack - i'll put some debugging messages in there tomorrow to see exactly where it fails | 00:01 |
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| hyc | ok ttyl | 00:01 |
| d3tul3 | thanks for figuring this out | 00:01 |
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| Tandy-Rhod210 | Here I am on my Rhod210 with OMGB from NAND | 00:36 |
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| hyc | woohoo | 00:36 |
| hyc | how's it working? | 00:36 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Works great, stable, pretty fast. | 00:36 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Texting works, calling works... | 00:36 |
| hyc | great | 00:37 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Video camera has a tendency to crash | 00:37 |
| hyc | tendency? has it ever worked? it always crashes for me | 00:37 |
| hyc | 100% of the time... | 00:37 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | My battery life is shit, but I think thats the fault of my battery moreso than android. | 00:37 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Dunno, only ever tried twice | 00:37 |
| hyc | (GBX0B. Worked fine on frx07) | 00:37 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Ah | 00:38 |
| hyc | I'd say video camera is 100% broken then | 00:38 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Yeah. It worked on B | 00:38 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Erm | 00:38 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Frx07, I dunno about gbx0a or gbx0b, though. | 00:38 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | But I have a custom CM7 theme chooser theme installed and everything. Now I want to go out and buy a TP2 thats in better condition :P | 00:40 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Would I be able to use a sprint tp2 with nand omgb on t-mobile? | 00:40 |
| hyc | nope | 00:40 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Darn | 00:40 |
| hyc | or, no 3G anyway | 00:40 |
| hyc | and you would first need to get it US-unlocked | 00:40 |
| hyc | otherwise it wouldn't have any US 3G frequencies | 00:41 |
| hyc | errr | 00:41 |
| hyc | it would have no US GSM | 00:41 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Damn you tmobile, why couldnt you have a friggin 3.5mm headphone jack like a sane carrier-customized phone?!?! | 00:41 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Does the att version have a headphone jack? | 00:42 |
| hyc | dunno | 00:42 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Hmm | 00:42 |
| hyc | i think only cdma phones have it | 00:42 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Google time! | 00:42 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Oh, of course they do | 00:42 |
| hyc | so, maybe it would work ok, but no 3G... that would get annoying... | 00:43 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Yeah, especially since I'm wanting to buy data service soon... | 00:46 |
| hyc | heh you don't have it yet? tmo unlimited data is one of the best bargains around | 00:46 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Yeah | 00:47 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Right now I have a monthly4g unlmtd text plan. $15/mo | 00:47 |
| hyc | I don't think I have unlim text, but 400/month is more than i need | 00:48 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Parents refuse to pay for my phone service, but I'm wanting to do some number porting magic and get the $35/mo unlmtd text/data and 300min | 00:48 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | They only give you that deal if youre a new customer, so I'm gonna sign up again, get the plan, then port my number to google voice, then to the new tmo account :D | 00:51 |
| hyc | gawd.... | 00:51 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Lol | 00:54 |
| Tandy-Rhod210 | Worst-case scenario is I have to tell all two of the people that text me that I have a new number. | 00:55 |
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| hyc | bwahahahaha | 01:26 |
| hyc | it's a stupid bug in the bcm4329 driver, returning 1 instead of 0 for driver start | 01:26 |
| hyc | one line fix on that, and wifi tether works perfectly | 01:26 |
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| manveru | hi folks | 04:11 |
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| d3tul3 | hyc, i hope this is ok https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod/commit/be6eaac60e51f2b61f89df2c293201b018aed01c | 08:28 |
| d3tul3 | btw, it doesnt work with the old apsta firmware | 08:30 |
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| Klej | someone help me ???? | 10:00 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: What's your issue | 10:00 |
| rpierce99 | don't ask to ask | 10:00 |
| Klej | Can you tell is HTC TOUCH supported XDANDROID ??? | 10:00 |
| helicopter88 | HTC touch is the one before the diamond? | 10:00 |
| Klej | Yeah | 10:00 |
| helicopter88 | then,i assume no | 10:00 |
| Klej | hm... | 10:01 |
| Klej | http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20703/run-android-on-your-windows-mobile-phone/ | 10:01 |
| Klej | look at this | 10:01 |
| Klej | :S | 10:01 |
| Klej | my phone is a vogue | 10:01 |
| rpierce99 | it's really hard to work from marketing names like touch, the hardware support is based on device ids | 10:01 |
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| Klej | what xdandroid i need to install to test it ??? | 10:01 |
| Klej | with haret.exe | 10:02 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: Look at the supported phones under xdandroid | 10:02 |
| Klej | I'm using some wing linux but there's no wifi,gsm.. | 10:03 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: since you don't have a problem with xdandroid | 10:04 |
| helicopter88 | this isn't the proper channel | 10:04 |
| rpierce99 | Klej: that article does not say xdandroid supports your phone | 10:04 |
| Klej | can you give me a link to download | 10:04 |
| Klej | to test it | 10:04 |
| rpierce99 | they happened to use an xdandroid download file for their phone, and said at the bottom that the htc touch is well supported, but that's by a different distro | 10:05 |
| rpierce99 | is yours the touch cdma? | 10:05 |
| Klej | what is cdma ? | 10:05 |
| rpierce99 | the type of network you connect to | 10:05 |
| Klej | wifi | 10:05 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: are you from USA or from europe? | 10:05 |
| Klej | from europe | 10:06 |
| helicopter88 | Russia? | 10:06 |
| Klej | Bosnia and Herzegovina | 10:06 |
| helicopter88 | you shouldn't be CDMA | 10:06 |
| rpierce99 | all of the android dev on the touch was for the cdma variant | 10:06 |
| Klej | hm... | 10:06 |
| rpierce99 | there isn't even an android dev section for the gsm touch, the "elf" | 10:06 |
| rpierce99 | you need to find out if you have a vogue or an elf | 10:07 |
| Klej | well | 10:07 |
| Klej | i was downloaded any android and it works | 10:07 |
| Klej | called wing linux | 10:07 |
| Klej | but there's no wifi,gsm :S | 10:07 |
| Klej | also booted with haret.ext | 10:07 |
| Klej | haret.exe* | 10:07 |
| rpierce99 | which, if it was developed for a cdma phone and you have a gsm phone, makes complete sense | 10:07 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: this isn't the channel about wing linux,and do you have an "elf" ? | 10:07 |
| rpierce99 | which is why you need to know what phone you have | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | if you have a vogue it will never connect to GSM | 10:08 |
| Klej | i have htc touch | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | if you have an Elf it has the GSM hardware, but i don't think any android dev has been done on it | 10:08 |
| Klej | http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch-1999.php | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | that means nothing Klej | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | there are 2 identical phones called the touch | 10:08 |
| helicopter88 | and ELF | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | one is gsm, one is cdma | 10:08 |
| rpierce99 | in windows mobile can you connect to your gsm? | 10:09 |
| Klej | elf0100 | 10:09 |
| helicopter88 | rpierce99: HTC Elf platform | 10:09 |
| Klej | yeah | 10:09 |
| Klej | primary system is windows mobile | 10:09 |
| detule | bosnia is gsm | 10:09 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495132 | 10:09 |
| Klej | hm.. | 10:10 |
| helicopter88 | looks like the white stone | 10:10 |
| helicopter88 | without developers | 10:10 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, the only reason the vogue got anywhere was because of dzo | 10:11 |
| Klej | can you give me a link to download | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much. | 10:11 |
| Klej | to test it | 10:11 |
| rpierce99 | you can hang out in the vogue section all you want, but they will never have working gsm radios | 10:11 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=588 | 10:11 |
| helicopter88 | www.no.com/no.htm | 10:11 |
| arrrghhh | NO | 10:11 |
| helicopter88 | omfg,it exists | 10:12 |
| helicopter88 | lol | 10:12 |
| Klej | what to do now ? | 10:12 |
| arrrghhh | Klej, buy a new phone? | 10:12 |
| Klej | no. | 10:12 |
| rpierce99 | develop android for your phone, live with winmo, live with linux with no wifi/gsm, | 10:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:12 |
| arrrghhh | those are pretty much your choices. | 10:13 |
| Klej | but tell me | 10:13 |
| helicopter88 | or buy a new phone | 10:13 |
| Klej | how was i am using android on my phone using wing linux | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, i said that :P | 10:13 |
| arrrghhh | Klej, it's similar hardware, but the radios are different. | 10:13 |
| Klej | look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CdZnclLi2A | 10:14 |
| rpierce99 | getting android to run isn't going to be a big deal, i'm sure the vogue roms will work for you just fine, but you have a different radio, so no wireless will ever work | 10:14 |
| Klej | its working | 10:14 |
| helicopter88 | arrrghhh: missed that | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | so it works, but RIL related things don't work. | 10:14 |
| Klej | but this wing linux does not support for wifi and gsm | 10:14 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 10:14 |
| Klej | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265 ???????? | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA Klej | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | that's CDMA!! | 10:15 |
| arrrghhh | you don't want CDMA. | 10:15 |
| Klej | windows mobile is toooo stupid | 10:16 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 10:16 |
| arrrghhh | we gave you your options. | 10:16 |
| arrrghhh | buy a new phone, or develop on that phone... | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | but there's nothing out there for your device. | 10:17 |
| Klej | i dont know how to develop | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | then buy a new phone | 10:17 |
| Klej | i dont have money | 10:17 |
| Klej | :D | 10:17 |
| rpierce99 | wow whatever version of android is running in that video is UGLY | 10:18 |
| rpierce99 | i started with froyo, i'm really glad i didn't have to live through a-e | 10:18 |
| Klej | can you help me and develop for my phone ? D: | 10:18 |
| helicopter88 | Klej: rob a bank,be happy with wm | 10:18 |
| Klej | no | 10:19 |
| Klej | i want an app called WHATSAPP | 10:19 |
| rpierce99 | we don't have your phone, you'd have much better luck in that forum on xda | 10:19 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=372 | 10:19 |
| Klej | tnx | 10:20 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554479 | 10:20 |
| rpierce99 | hasn't been touched since june 2010 | 10:21 |
| Klej | :/ | 10:21 |
| rpierce99 | they claim gprs works if you set your apn | 10:22 |
| rpierce99 | sound has never worked, so phone calls are out | 10:22 |
| arrrghhh | hah | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | whatsapp is pretty useless w/o sound. | 10:25 |
| Klej | cool app | 10:25 |
| helicopter88 | if you want to use whatsapp to send texts,it's fine | 10:25 |
| detule | arrrghhh, what's the new firmware called in your init.etc? | 10:25 |
| rpierce99 | native sms and gprs work, supposedly | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | would need gprs or wifi tho | 10:25 |
| detule | *.bin.new ? | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | detule, there's 2 | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | yea the new one should be .new | 10:25 |
| rpierce99 | but it's a cupcake build, how old is that now? | 10:26 |
| Klej | have someone program for free calls with phone contacts | 10:26 |
| Klej | ? | 10:26 |
| rpierce99 | you won't be able to use android on that device for that, it doesn't have sound | 10:27 |
| Klej | :) | 10:27 |
| rpierce99 | gtg | 10:28 |
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| Tandyman100 | .o/ | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | no | 11:32 |
| Tandyman100 | lies. | 11:33 |
| Tandyman100 | In other news, OMFB on my Rhod210 is orgasmic. | 11:41 |
| Tandyman100 | OMGB* | 11:41 |
| arrrghhh | k | 11:45 |
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| detule | i liked that fellow's comment on ppcgeeks about why he switched to nand "i could no longer stand booting through winmo" | 11:52 |
| detule | of all the half-assed reasons | 11:52 |
| Tandyman100 | I know a guy who smashed an HD2 because he was pissed he had to boot through winmo to get to android | 11:52 |
| Tandyman100 | this was before nand for the HD2 had matured | 11:52 |
| Tandyman100 | I *hate* elitist assholes like that. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | pretty dumb | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | i don't like it, but fawk. | 11:55 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 11:55 |
| Tandyman100 | "HERP DERP I'M GOING TO DESTROY A $700 DEVICE BECAUSE OF MY FANBOYISM" | 11:56 |
| Tandyman100 | Now he uses an iPhone 4 running Gingerbread | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | trololololol | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | did he smash that too, because it sucks with only one button? | 11:56 |
| Tandyman100 | No | 11:56 |
| Tandyman100 | he's been using it since the 4 came out | 11:56 |
| Tandyman100 | I think that would be annoying as hell to have to wait to click the button multiple times to do simple things | 11:57 |
| detule | didn't know you could do that to an iphone | 11:57 |
| Tandyman100 | Yup | 11:57 |
| detule | hmmm, wife has an iphone | 11:57 |
| Tandyman100 | it sucks | 11:57 |
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| arrrghhh | detule, i would stay away | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | unless you want your wife to hate you. | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:58 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 11:58 |
| Tandyman100 | 1. smash her iphone | 11:59 |
| Tandyman100 | 2. buy a Galaxy SII | 11:59 |
| detule | no i made the mistake with putting cyano on her optimus s and she never forgave me | 11:59 |
| Tandyman100 | I honestly can't see how anyone types on that small screen. I can barely stand my HD2's screen. | 11:59 |
| Tandyman100 | ...what | 11:59 |
| Tandyman100 | Why not? | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | detule, i put cm7 on my gf's S | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | she loves it | 11:59 |
| Tandyman100 | My sister absolutely loves CM7 on her HTC Hero | 11:59 |
| detule | something about voice mail notifications | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | randomly it has issues, but i just update it and it's fine | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | detule, there's a fix for that | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | but probably moot since she no longer uses the S | 12:00 |
| detule | too late now | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 12:00 |
| Tandyman100 | heh | 12:01 |
| Tandyman100 | lol sprint | 12:01 |
| Tandyman100 | lol CDMA networks | 12:01 |
| Tandyman100 | I like being able to, if my phone dies, simply remove the SIM and stick it in a random dumbphone, and keep going without missing a beat. | 12:01 |
| detule | i like saving money | 12:02 |
| Tandyman100 | Sprint is cheaper? | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | for me | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | it is | 12:03 |
| Tandyman100 | You can get unlimited everything on T-Mobile for $45/mo with no contract if you don't mind the lack of 4g after 3gb... | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | i like saving money too | 12:03 |
| Tandyman100 | Well, yeah, I guess if you have a family plan or something it would be cheaper. | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:03 |
| Tandyman100 | Or if you bought contracts. | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 12:03 |
| Tandyman100 | T-Mobile's contract plans are expensive as hell | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 12:03 |
| Tandyman100 | But their prepaid monthly4g stuff is sex. | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'll pass. | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | tmo service is really spotty | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | plus, i have truly unlimited data. | 12:05 |
| Tandyman100 | ah | 12:07 |
| Tandyman100 | tmobile is fantastic where I go :P | 12:08 |
| Tandyman100 | better than Cricket, at least | 12:08 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 12:08 |
| arrrghhh | anything's better than Cricket. | 12:08 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 12:09 |
| Tandyman100 | my mom has an Optimus C on cricket | 12:09 |
| Tandyman100 | You can tell they suck by all the cricket phones on craigslist as people jump ship to verizon or something | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:10 |
| Tandyman100 | Ugh. This town has more hipsters than I've ever seen in my life. | 12:13 |
| Tandyman100 | And I have yet to see more than four people who don't have an iPhone. | 12:13 |
| Tandyman100 | (I'm in Seattle, BTW) | 12:13 |
| Tandyman100 | Everyone has skintight pants. Everyone has a scraggly beard. Everyone has a FUCKING SCARF. Everyone has an iPhone except for the two people I saw with HTC Evo's. | 12:13 |
| detule | xdandroid is for hipsters, real wo/men use tiadroid | 12:13 |
| Tandyman100 | Even on Microsoft's campus there's people who turned down a free Lumia 800 in favor of their iPhones. | 12:14 |
| * arrrghhh looks at his iPhone in shame | 12:15 | |
| Tandyman100 | you have an iPhone? | 12:16 |
| Tandyman100 | Geez. | 12:16 |
| detule | iphone is a fine piece of hardware | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, didn't have a choice really | 12:16 |
| Tandyman100 | iPhone>Blackberry>WebOS>WP7=ICS | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | detule, the OS is maddening. | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | did you just say WP7=ICS? | 12:16 |
| Tandyman100 | Yup | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | you're an idiot. | 12:16 |
| Tandyman100 | inb4shitstorm | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | didn't make it | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | I used WP7 for the past two months | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i've used wp7, that OS is retarded | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | they forgot SO much shit. | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i don't care how fast it is | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | Which version? | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | if it doesn't work, who cares? | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | Mango or 7.1? | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | don't really care | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | because 7.1 was retarded as hell | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | was some official WP7 device | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | Mango made it 100000x better | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | samsung focus? | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | t'was shite | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | er | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | htc surround | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | oh | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | that's a 1st-gen device | 12:17 |
| Tandyman100 | those sucked ass. | 12:18 |
| detule | isn't mango completely locked down | 12:18 |
| detule | how can it be any good? | 12:18 |
| Tandyman100 | I like Android and WP7 equally. They both have their faults and strengths. | 12:18 |
| Tandyman100 | detule: that's what I like about it. It's impossible for the retards in my family to fuck it up through sheer stupidity like they managed to do with Android. As far as "It just works" WP7 is the best OS in the market. | 12:19 |
| Tandyman100 | It's also the only OS I've used where I didn't feel like I wanted to customize it any. | 12:19 |
| Tandyman100 | However | 12:19 |
| detule | i think you'll discover people around here value the ability to truly own their phones | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | i don't like 'it just works' | 12:19 |
| Tandyman100 | if you *do* want to customize, or sideload apps (though quite a few wp7 phones can), or pirate apps, or use removable media, android is superior. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | because 'it just works... for this one guy who thought it should work like that' | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | or use removable media | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | LOl | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 12:20 |
| Tandyman100 | WP7 phones can't mount as a flash drive, nor do they support removable SD cards (though the next version of Windows Phone will solve both these problems, as well as add support for lower-spec devices) | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | i don't like that way of thinking. that someone else knows better. | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | fuck that. | 12:20 |
| Tandyman100 | Again | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, quit selling microshit. | 12:20 |
| detule | it's a flawed business model | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | we don't care. | 12:20 |
| Tandyman100 | the next generation of windows phones (windows 8) will have that. | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | that's nice | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | don't care. | 12:20 |
| detule | there is no way ms can come up with a superior product behind closed doors.....hell that's why they are still stuck with single core devices | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | They use single core devices because the OS is slimmer and more regulated... | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | they don't *need* a fucking 1.4ghz dual-core phone do run. | 12:21 |
| detule | you sound like an apple spokesperson | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | lawl | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | or a microsoft one | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | I am a bit of a fanboy | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | but as I said | 12:21 |
| Tandyman100 | I like them both equally, personally | 12:22 |
| detule | it's because they don't have the manpower to develop an smp kernel | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | WP7 is better for people who would otherwise buy an iPhone. | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | Android is better for people who want more control over their device. | 12:22 |
| detule | trust me if they could support dual core devices they would | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | End of discussion. | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | (dual-core support comes with Windows Phone 8 as well, btw) | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | which I think is just going to cause fragmentation. | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | if they do add it. | 12:22 |
| Tandyman100 | Because then software made to support the more powerful cores won't run very well on single-core devices | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | The upside to WP7 is that all of the apps will work on all of the phones because of the way MS controls the hardware | 12:23 |
| detule | i think you are peddling wares in the wrong room, this whole project was designed around reverse engineering a closed source product....nobody here will find an upside to wp7 or 8 or whatever they are up to now | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | thus, less stupid people complaining some game doesn't work on their phone when it works on their friends. | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | I dunno | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | I just felt like rambling | 12:23 |
| Tandyman100 | NEW TOPIC: NATURAL SPRING WATER | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 12:24 |
| helicAWAY | Tandyman100: only stinebd can change topics | 12:24 |
| *** helicAWAY is now known as helicopter88 | 12:24 | |
| Tandyman100 | heh | 12:24 |
| Tandyman100 | SO we're forced to keep talking about microsoft OSes? | 12:25 |
| helicopter88 | Tandyman100: Official XDAndroid project discussion and support channel | 12:25 |
| Tandyman100 | Yeah, ok. | 12:25 |
| Tandyman100 | I DO DONE DID DIDDLY LOVE DAT DERE ANDRUID ON MAH TUCH PRAW TOO! | 12:26 |
| Tandyman100 | Though OMGB with LauncherPro does run faster on my TP2 than vanilla Android 2.2 does on my mom's Optimus C... | 12:26 |
| Tandyman100 | That causes me endless amusement. | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | i can't say that was true with mine | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | but my gf's S runs CM7.2 | 12:28 |
| Tandyman100 | Ah, yeah. I need to CM7 my mom's phone. | 12:29 |
| Tandyman100 | And my sister's MyTouch 3G | 12:29 |
| helicopter88 | I can't say it's true | 12:29 |
| helicopter88 | for some obvious reasons | 12:29 |
| Tandyman100 | I CM7'd her hero, and she keeps saying it's improved the camera some how. | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | just creates a support nightmare usually | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | i just act dumb, works best | 12:29 |
| Tandyman100 | The Hero and MyTouch3g are the same phone, correct? | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 12:29 |
| Tandyman100 | One's just GSM and the other's CDMA? | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | why do i care? | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | there's this google thingy if you care. | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | woahgoogle | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | because you're arrrghhh | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | ^ | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | arrrghhh, | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | It is your curse | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | the most friendly person on the net | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | trolololol | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | good one helicopter88 | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | hah | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | always a pleasure to serve you | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | (?) | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | giggity? | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | ^ | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | naah | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | always a pleasure to service you* | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | alternately | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | always a service to pleasure you | 12:30 |
| helicopter88 | I'm not a service | 12:30 |
| Tandyman100 | HeliServ | 12:31 |
| helicopter88 | I might be a deamon(spelled right?) | 12:31 |
| Tandyman100 | daemon* | 12:31 |
| helicopter88 | I might be a daemon | 12:31 |
| Tandyman100 | You run automatically and silently stay in the background? | 12:31 |
| helicopter88 | yes | 12:31 |
| helicopter88 | i run on boot | 12:31 |
| Tandyman100 | haha | 12:31 |
| * Tandyman100 shoves his boot up helicopter88's ass | 12:32 | |
| Tandyman100 | RUN! | 12:32 |
| helicopter88 | No | 12:32 |
| helicopter88 | my principal task is to run rm -rf /* | 12:32 |
| Tandyman100 | so that would make you an MS-DOS TSR | 12:32 |
| Tandyman100 | You run on boot, but refuse to work most of the time. | 12:32 |
| Tandyman100 | run on boot and stay in the background* | 12:32 |
| helicopter88 | the other task is echo "LOLOLOLOL" | 12:32 |
| helicopter88 | Tandyman100: I work,always | 12:35 |
| * Tandyman100 drops his pants | 12:35 | |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | i think i'll leave you two alone... | 12:36 |
| * arrrghhh backs away slowly | 12:36 | |
| * helicopter88 fades | 12:36 | |
| * helicopter88 fades to black | 12:36 | |
| hyc | d3tul3: yes, your commit looks more like what the mainline source does | 12:54 |
| hyc | but I'd really like to see us get closer to mainline source here | 12:55 |
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| MaMos | hi | 13:00 |
| Tandyman100 | hi | 13:06 |
| detule | hyc, no idea where jonpry got the sources from, i once tried to match that version number on the internet couldn't find it _anywhere_ | 13:12 |
| detule | i am generally for the idea of syncing the bcm4329 tree with google...one thing to note is that our source seems to be newer at least judging by revision numbers | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | mexican food sounds good. why do i have to be so poor. | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, quick, buy me lunch. | 13:28 |
| detule | though certainly lapses such as the one you caught in dhd_linux seem to indicate otherwise | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | detule, am i just a rube or would you guys like me to bake a new rootfs with that update? | 13:29 |
| * Tandyman100 poops in a bowl | 13:29 | |
| Tandyman100 | here, arrrghhh | 13:29 |
| Tandyman100 | mexican food. | 13:29 |
| detule | it can wait til future release, plus that firmware needs to be tested on .35 don't think emwe uses bcm4329 | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | detule, ah | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | good point | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | should put that firmware thru the ringer. | 13:31 |
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| arrrghhh | kansas | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | ew. | 13:48 |
| hyc | detule: ok | 13:56 |
| hyc | i suppose that also answers the question of why we don't use even newer firmwares... | 13:56 |
| detule | we don't use the same driver | 13:58 |
| detule | i suggested to folks on xda to update to the firmware you found...seems like a good idea to run with the latest | 14:01 |
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| detule | hyc, you should touch base with jonpry since you seem to be around more these days....he had a touch time with the RIL on an MVNO | 14:04 |
| detule | s/touch/tough/ | 14:04 |
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| hyc | ok | 14:40 |
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| hyc | detule: our source seems newer than the gingerbread source? or the latest android tree? | 14:51 |
| hyc | latest android tree has a completely new driver, bcmdhd | 14:51 |
| hyc | (well, I don't know how completely new it is, but ...) | 14:52 |
| detule | i was looking and android-3.0 | 15:11 |
| hyc | the dhd_linux.c version stamp is way out | 15:14 |
| hyc | the wl_iw.c version stamps look quite close | 15:14 |
| detule | bcmdhd looks like something google is priming for ics | 15:17 |
| detule | hm dhd_linux in the android-3.0 tree is 2011/02/03; ours is 2011-02-09 | 15:19 |
| detule | suspicious ver numbers 1.65 vs 1.131 | 15:19 |
| hyc | right, that's what I was getting at. | 15:20 |
| hyc | every repo / branch I found in those git repos was 1.65.something | 15:21 |
| hyc | mebbe ours came from a private broadcom repo | 15:21 |
| detule | yeah i was unable to ever match where these drivers came from probably from some dump | 15:22 |
| detule | my guess is perhaps samsung releasing source or something | 15:22 |
| hyc | possibly | 15:22 |
| hyc | the spica repo that I grabbed the 4.217.95 firmware from just switched from bcm4329 to bcmdhd | 15:22 |
| detule | they use gingerbread with that? | 15:23 |
| hyc | seems like it | 15:23 |
| detule | i am slightly worried they expose different functionality to userland | 15:23 |
| hyc | yeah, dunno what they've changed | 15:23 |
| hyc | some of the later firmwares sound good tho | 15:24 |
| hyc | at some point it says "deleted debug console to make more memory available" or somesuch | 15:24 |
| hyc | which can't be a bad thing ;) | 15:24 |
| detule | wish i knew what wext vs cfg80211 is | 15:26 |
| hyc | hmmm. I think it's just newer drivers that leave more of the boilerplate stuff to generic code | 15:28 |
| hyc | pretty sure the userland API has to remain the same | 15:28 |
| detule | probably right, i am just slightly cautious because i know when i looked at syncing the gadget trees, it wasn't possible because of mismatching sysfs entries | 15:30 |
| detule | oh bcmdhd looks nice | 15:36 |
| hyc | what in particular have you noticed about it? I haven't looked yet | 15:44 |
| detule | oh adds a config entry for static buffers, which we were forcing with a compile time flag | 15:49 |
| detule | thought i saw something different in the firmware loading mechanism but it's the same as in 4329 | 15:49 |
| detule | and i got it to compile without too much trouble | 15:50 |
| hyc | cool | 15:51 |
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| detule | any easy way i can tell android to use bcmdhd rather than bcm4329 | 16:02 |
| hyc | hm, maybe not without recompiling some loaders. don't recall. | 16:05 |
| hyc | I would just insmod manually to test. | 16:05 |
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| hyc | I think it's quite cool that we have native tethering; why do devs on other phones keep screwing with 3rd party tether app? | 16:16 |
| mgross029 | I agree... I was pretty bummed about that on CM and other Native Device Mods. XDAndroid definitely has some nice features built in. | 16:19 |
| hyc | AFAIK that's just AOSP. They'd be going out of their way to disable the feature... ? oh well | 16:21 |
| mgross029 | Hmmm... That's just crazy. | 16:22 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, it is part of AOSP | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | don't other native devices that run AOSP have it? | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | i know carrier ROM's don't include it, or if they do they have it hooked to a payment thingy | 16:29 |
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| mgross029 | I've had a vew differnt ROMs on the Droid 1 I've been using and none of them have it. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | AOSP dude | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | any of 'em AOSP? | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | most aren't unfortunately. | 16:33 |
| mgross029 | CM is based off of AOSP. Right? | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | erm... i guess | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see what else it would be based off of lol | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | CM didn't have it!?!? | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | i figured that definitely would. | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 16:34 |
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| mgross029 | Nope... I was pretty shocked... Getting ready to try a ICS build on the other Droid I have once I replace the broken digitizer. It is based on AOSP as well and they are getting pretty close to a fully functional build | 16:36 |
| mgross029 | Going back to XDA soon too... | 16:37 |
| mgross029 | RL has been kicking my you know what lately... | 16:38 |
| hyc | hm, don't even remember if my G1 had it. | 16:40 |
| hyc | i think cm did | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 16:41 |
| hyc | but none of the early roms did, that's why i had to hack adb to do usb tether | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | my gf's optimus s on cm7 has it | 16:41 |
| detule | there's some missing dependencies in this bcmdhd kconfig | 16:42 |
| mgross029 | Oh really? WTH! | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, yea man. she uses it all the damned time too, loves it. | 16:42 |
| hyc | detule - anything major? | 16:42 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh: Well this Droid sux then! Probably why CM dropped it | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | mebbe a hardware thing. dunno. | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | my native Android device experience is very limited. | 16:43 |
| detule | hopefully not, i was hoping i wouldn't have to get in here hacking away, but i may have to | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | it consists of randomly having to fix my gf's optimus | 16:43 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh: It could be. I've even seen problems with APN and MMS on this thing. I've had to find work arounds to get things working. Oh well it was free, so I shouldn't complain too much. | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | can't argue with free | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | the OG droid i thought was pretty hacked too | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | big dev community. probably not anymore. | 16:46 |
| hyc | OG? | 16:46 |
| rpierce99 | original gansta | 16:47 |
| rpierce99 | gangsta | 16:47 |
| hyc | gawd | 16:47 |
| mgross029 | It actually is not bad. Just not a ton of features. Want to get back to help test some more XDA goodness that detule has been pouring his heart into... | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | is that really what they mean my OG droid? | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | jeebus | 16:47 |
| rpierce99 | probably not | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it just meant original | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, you asshat | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:47 |
| mgross029 | I think it is just for Original | 16:47 |
| hyc | hah | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:48 |
| mgross029 | But who knows | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | imma go with original | 16:48 |
| rpierce99 | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OG | 16:48 |
| rpierce99 | og does not stand for original | 16:48 |
| mgross029 | Well Original is in there. :p | 16:49 |
| rpierce99 | original generation i could go with, but that's dumb | 16:49 |
| detule | xda goodness indeed....somebody said it in htc-linux some time ago and i think it's probably near true.....rhodium has to be the most engineered phone ever | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | i'm thinking orangutan ganja | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | makes the most sense | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | detule, no joke | 16:50 |
| rpierce99 | that or the hd2 | 16:50 |
| rpierce99 | hd7? | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | hd2 was too easy :P | 16:51 |
| rpierce99 | no 2 | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol certainly not the 7 | 16:51 |
| detule | hd2 has nand...so do we | 16:51 |
| detule | but they don't have 3.x | 16:51 |
| detule | :) | 16:51 |
| mgross029 | Now HTC just needs to get off there laurels and build another great phone. | 16:51 |
| rpierce99 | they have WP7 | 16:51 |
| detule | they don't have open source :) | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | they have meego | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | they have wp7 | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | they have open source for some things. | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | cotulla and his magical magldr is closed... | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | but they have CWM/LK | 16:52 |
| detule | mgadlr is a big reason why hd2 is not long forgotten | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | and they definitely had some sharp devs working on it | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 16:52 |
| hyc | yeah, htc's wp7 phone had some nice specs, they just needed to do an android version and put an sd slot in | 16:54 |
| hyc | they've really lost their way | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | htc even said htc has lost their way | 16:54 |
| hyc | from recordbreaking quarters to .. nothing. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:54 |
| hyc | amazing how quickly their fortunes changed | 16:55 |
| mgross029 | I'm out! Laters... | 16:55 |
| hyc | ttyl | 16:55 |
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| arrrghhh | yea, it's crazy | 16:55 |
| hyc | and now everyone is suing everyone else. all their money is going there instead of r&d :p | 16:56 |
| hyc | it should be illegal to sell locked phones. or any other computing devices. | 16:57 |
| hyc | vendors should be required to provide full hw and sw specs to any customer, on request | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | HA | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's crazy talk. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | would be amazing, considering it's mine... i'm buying it damnit. | 16:59 |
| rpierce99 | large corporations own the governement and the general population is sheeple so there is no incentive for the governement to create consumer-focused policy | 17:02 |
| hyc | sucks... | 17:04 |
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