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| detule | hey emwe | 10:09 |
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| emwe | hey | 10:10 |
| detule | now-a-days when git am fails me, i go in with "patch -p1" and later i do git am --resolved | 10:14 |
| detule | "patch" seems to have more of a tolerance for 'fuzzy' merges | 10:14 |
| emwe | ah, he. i hate git am :) | 10:15 |
| emwe | just add the remote, fetch it regularly and git cherry-pick. | 10:15 |
| detule | what does cherry-pick do? probably run into the same problems as git am if it doesn't apply cleanly or no? | 10:16 |
| emwe | i always try to split commits up in usable pieces... one adds the driver and makefile changes, the other changes defconfig... | 10:16 |
| detule | btw, i was stuck in a boot loop this morning | 10:16 |
| emwe | yes, but you don't need to fetch the patch file and so on. | 10:16 |
| detule | i thought that only happened to people with nand-android set-ups | 10:16 |
| emwe | you git log on the remotes branch, copy the commit'ish, and do git cherry-pick <commit-ish> and it will add the commit to your current HEAD | 10:17 |
| emwe | you can git mergetool -t meld(or any other) and resolve the merge conflict, git commit <commit'ish> and be done. | 10:17 |
| emwe | (the latter all if merge conflicts appear) | 10:17 |
| detule | that's pretty cool, i always do some long-roundabout way of git format-patch range-of-commits blah blah | 10:18 |
| emwe | git remote add <name> <url-to-linux-msm> | 10:18 |
| emwe | git fetch <name> git log <name>/htc-msm-2.6.35 , copy the commit-ish, git cherry-pick <commit-ish> | 10:18 |
| detule | right, i have your tree locally i just don't cherry pick the commits i use git format-patch which is a bit longer | 10:19 |
| emwe | of course this won't always work perfectly if the commits are of the early .39 butchering style... | 10:19 |
| emwe | yeah, the double trees... i got the remotes on my main tree but also local copies for easier diffing. | 10:19 |
| detule | hah early .39 pioneering style :) | 10:20 |
| emwe | meld is supposed to support git and do two or three-way diffs on git branches, but i never got it to work. | 10:20 |
| detule | "git am -3" does a three way merge *i*think | 10:20 |
| emwe | i got plenty of clone-directories here for diffing... a bit of a space waster. | 10:20 |
| emwe | what i mean is using meld (the merge tool) | 10:21 |
| emwe | it should support git, but it doesn't work for me | 10:21 |
| emwe | so i can only diff directories. | 10:21 |
| emwe | that's what i mean | 10:21 |
| emwe | so i have to keep around physical clones and also got the remote "code" fetched in my main repo for cherry-picking. | 10:21 |
| emwe | s/main repo/main tree | 10:21 |
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| arrrghhh | 12-09 09:09:56.720 V/Libacoustic-wince( 1278): msm72xx_set_audio_path: device=1 Mic = 0, DualMic = 0, Speaker = 1, Headset = 0 | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | would this mean mic = 0, dualmic = 0 - so it's not expecting input? | 11:11 |
| emwe | yes. | 11:14 |
| emwe | i actually got loud and clear notifications and dial tones now. | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | howdy emwe | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | trying to help a guy on the forums use some 'other' voice command utilities | 11:16 |
| emwe | still puzzles me why the wince settings for the speaker don't show this agc influence audibly, for us they do. | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | just tried on this acoustic build to see what would happen, seems to fail the same way. | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | that is strange... | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | this acoustic stuff is maddening. | 11:16 |
| emwe | s/speaker/amplifier | 11:16 |
| emwe | it's executing setups twice which seems even more bogus to me. | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 11:17 |
| emwe | time to go figure and not get side tracked again from other stuff | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough. | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try not to side track ;) | 11:17 |
| emwe | you're always welcome. | 11:17 |
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| ryannathans | hai guyz | 11:52 |
| ryannathans | Every time I init a new repo it tries to pull from kernel.org, one suggestion was to update repo binary, how does one do such madness? Everything appears up to date. | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | aren't there directions on how to download repo | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | and make it executable | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | do that again -__ | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | -_- | 11:54 |
| ryannathans | repo init -u git://gitorious.org/xdandroid/manifest.git -b froyo | 11:55 |
| ryannathans | that? | 11:55 |
| emwe | on first run, repo tries to update itself, and even the latest repo binary still tries to pull from korg. | 11:59 |
| emwe | just run it again | 11:59 |
| emwe | you don't wan't to mess with froyo anymore, though. | 12:00 |
| ryannathans | everyone moved to gingerbread? | 12:00 |
| rpierce99 | development | 12:01 |
| rpierce99 | there's not a stable enough gb released for users to move yet | 12:02 |
| ryannathans | I keep getting the error.. sadly. | 12:02 |
| ryannathans | all kernel.org | 12:02 |
| ryannathans | I wonder if my cam works with ginger | 12:03 |
| ryannathans | how do i beat this kernel.org crap | 12:04 |
| emwe | hm, it looks fine to me: https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/manifest/blobs/froyo/default.xml | 12:04 |
| emwe | let me test... | 12:05 |
| * ryannathans has tried like 100 tiems now | 12:06 | |
| ryannathans | gingerbread and froyo | 12:06 |
| emwe | are you doing this on a clean directory? | 12:06 |
| emwe | because it works fine for me. | 12:06 |
| ryannathans | completely clean | 12:06 |
| emwe | did you update the repo binary? | 12:06 |
| emwe | it just syncs for me. | 12:06 |
| ryannathans | o.0 I can't even init | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html | 12:07 |
| emwe | fetch an updated repo binary. | 12:07 |
| emwe | repo --version | 12:07 |
| ryannathans | error: repo is not installed. Use "repo init" to install it here. | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | wtf i don't even | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | it's working now | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | i change nothing | 12:09 |
| ryannathans | meh, thanks | 12:09 |
| emwe | heh | 12:09 |
| emwe | on first run, repo tries to update itself. dunno what happened over there. | 12:09 |
| emwe | ;) | 12:09 |
| emwe | as i said earlier, you don't wanna mess with froyo anymore. | 12:09 |
| ryannathans | What's broken on gingerbread? Anything new since that july forum post? | 12:10 |
| emwe | i assume you haven't been in the round of gingerbread testers. we need more testers anyway. | 12:10 |
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| ryannathans | I'm keen to test | 12:10 |
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| emwe | everybody "active" around here is running private builds ;) | 12:10 |
| ryannathans | I still don't even have a working cam | 12:10 |
| emwe | i haven't cared for cam. said to be working on .39. likely .27 as well | 12:10 |
| emwe | but there's some showstoppers. | 12:11 |
| rpierce99_ | yes cam works on .39 and .27 in GB | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | When I try to run the 'test' kernel for cam, it just freezes after haret executes | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | nothing out of ordinary, frx07 | 12:11 |
| rpierce99_ | you probably need to upgrade your haret | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | tried that | 12:11 |
| rpierce99_ | kernel is too big to fit | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | used the new one supplied and without | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | both same problrme | 12:12 |
| rpierce99_ | did you change your startup.txt? | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | problem | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | o | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | no | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | what needs changing | 12:12 |
| rpierce99_ | the reason you upgrade haret is so that you can define your initrd offset | 12:12 |
| rpierce99_ | in startup.txt | 12:12 |
| emwe | set INITRD_OFFSET 0xa00000 | 12:12 |
| emwe | set INITRD initrd.gz | 12:12 |
| emwe | add the first line | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | set ramsize 0x10000000 | 12:16 |
| ryannathans | set ramaddr 0x10000000 | 12:16 |
| ryannathans | set initrd_offset 0x00a00000 | 12:16 |
| ryannathans | set mtype 2292 | 12:16 |
| ryannathans | do i need all of those | 12:16 |
| ryannathans | owait | 12:18 |
| ryannathans | wrong lines | 12:18 |
| ryannathans | dw | 12:18 |
| ryannathans | time to play.. mwahaha | 12:22 |
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| arrrghhh | ryannathans, ffs. | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | i told you all of this before... | 12:26 |
| ryannathans | mind = blown | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i'm sure. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | the guy who made that kernel even stated what needed to be done AFAIK, lol. | 12:27 |
| ryannathans | where? | 12:28 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i think nothing would speak against pulling ryannathans into the testers, or? ;) | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | well, he's relatively useless as you can see from the help you tried to provide above... | 12:28 |
| emwe | rofl | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | he seemingly can't read forum posts either -_- | 12:28 |
| ryannathans | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17887046&postcount=1101 | 12:28 |
| ryannathans | where does it say what i need to do ;D | 12:29 |
| emwe | and you haven't done the rootfs bcm firmware switch arrrghhh :P | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | that's not the first post | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i STILL haven't figured out the syntax. | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | IIRC you couldn't either :P | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, that's not brinka's first post, i shall dig... ugh. | 12:29 |
| ryannathans | don't worrry, found it | 12:29 |
| ryannathans | I never looked before | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | really helpful tester. | 12:30 |
| ryannathans | when i'm not given full details and don't have enough time to dig through many pages | 12:30 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i don't recall, but can some awk magic be done? not sure i've something like that. | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, yea, awk might help. | 12:30 |
| ryannathans | got time now though, just finished exams | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | save the time from trying to sort out the syntax problem... | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, so when you don't have time, it's up to everyone else to do the leg work for you? | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | "I'd love to see this committed asap, as long as it's acceptable" | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | you're a funny guy. | 12:31 |
| ryannathans | in my pants | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | mmmmhmmm | 12:31 |
| ryannathans | As far as I am concerned I don't know what I'm actually running | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 12:31 |
| ryannathans | or if any other problems are being caused i don't know of | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, see what i mean? | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, emwe i'll take another crack at that firmware patch. | 12:32 |
| emwe | you guys let my balls swallow... | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | easy in mah head, hard to actually write evidently. | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure i should respond to that emwe ... | 12:32 |
| emwe | lol | 12:32 |
| ryannathans | why do I always do this at 1am... | 12:33 |
| * ryannathans slaps self | 12:33 | |
| rpierce99 | god i hope something was lost in translation | 12:34 |
| ryannathans | where can I find the source of this camera patch | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | mailing list | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | or somewhere buried in that thread | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think he's provided source for his newest patches tho. i dunno. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | don't really care, no one has bothered to adopt his patch. | 12:35 |
| ryannathans | subbed to mailing list now | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | little late | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | but ok. | 12:37 |
| ryannathans | good to see I still remember how to pull all teh logs | 12:38 |
| ryannathans | where can i sign up to this testing business | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | you don't | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | build the image, test | 12:39 |
| ryannathans | userland or kernel | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | userland | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | kernel is your choice | 12:40 |
| ryannathans | righteo | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | just has to have acoustic | 12:40 |
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| emwe | well, without the acoustic kernel.. not much to test the userland with acoustic then... | 12:45 |
| emwe | or well, it might be backwards compatible even. | 12:45 |
| emwe | jonpry: hey. there's been a follow up article from ms. Hackborn. dunno if it's relevent/interessting. | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i'm not sure how useful it's going to be to have him test. otherwise i'd just say throw him an image. | 12:48 |
| jonpry | oh yeah thanks btw | 12:48 |
| jonpry | ^^ emwe | 12:48 |
| emwe | ;) | 12:48 |
| ryannathans | what ever happened to f22's keymaps | 12:48 |
| jonpry | i agree that the hardware ui renderer thing is not too useful. but i still have hope for the compositor | 12:48 |
| ryannathans | they worked wonders for me | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, that's nice | 12:49 |
| ryannathans | now i stuck with a broken ctrl/fn, thats the first thing im going to fix | 12:49 |
| jonpry | tp2 is legacy now? | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, yup... :( | 12:49 |
| emwe | hehe :O | 12:49 |
| emwe | finally next to it's brother TOPA | 12:49 |
| jonpry | strike on xda | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | ironically the TP2 successor was put legacy/low activity before the TP2 did, lol. | 12:50 |
| emwe | hehe | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm surprised the X1 is still not there... | 12:50 |
| emwe | alex keeping peeps busy :) | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | hah | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | lies. | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | have you seen that section? | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | like the wild west | 12:50 |
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| arrrghhh | people just put out build with different launchers, making it sound like a whole new build | 12:50 |
| jonpry | we need a GB image with the new egl and gles stuff | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | we need a GB release party damnit. | 12:51 |
| emwe | jonpry: you mean the patched libs? | 12:51 |
| jonpry | yeah | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | or just a GB release. | 12:51 |
| jonpry | both | 12:51 |
| emwe | jonpry: i can make sure to bundle the new libs. | 12:51 |
| ryannathans | how often if gb updated | 12:51 |
| ryannathans | is** | 12:51 |
| emwe | ryannathans: i last updated on 2011-11-19 | 12:51 |
| emwe | haven't been able to do much lately. | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, whenever it's necessary? | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | what's with the esoteric questions? | 12:51 |
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| emwe | jonpry: i picked up the binary from yesterday i think which was posted over on #htc-linux. assume this is the latest one. | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i asked detule to post it. | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | i was supposed to spam it out, never did | 12:52 |
| jonpry | there is also this libEGL issue | 12:52 |
| emwe | can you guys verify? | 12:53 |
| emwe | 818d90167519c149923145793234f0f6 libEGL.so | 12:53 |
| emwe | 5328299add5f036e47d4db6c0f636c92 libGLES_qcom.so | 12:53 |
| emwe | ryannathans: pm me your mailaddy | 12:53 |
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| jonpry | i don't even have a copy yet | 12:54 |
| emwe | ah so you just instructed the mods? | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, lol | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | lemme spam it out. | 12:55 |
| emwe | ryannathans: if you fail to set that up, bad luck :P | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:56 |
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| jonpry | emwe, yeah trying to copy my life to a new laptop. so stuff is all messed up | 12:56 |
| ryannathans | fail setting what up? | 12:56 |
| emwe | that what is coming via mail. | 12:56 |
| ryannathans | o | 12:57 |
| ryannathans | how many megs? | 13:00 |
| emwe | it's links! | 13:00 |
| ryannathans | gooodies | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, jonpry spam sent | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | GLES has been distributed... hopefully i didn't forget anyone. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | I guess I should've included the EGL lib too. oh well. | 13:03 |
| jonpry | yeah probably should get that out | 13:03 |
| ryannathans | me gb sauce is almost done | 13:03 |
| jonpry | or everyone will think its busted and will never try it again | 13:04 |
| emwe | ok, the GLES one is the one i have. | 13:04 |
| emwe | awaiting follow up mail :) | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, lol | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | fine. | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec... | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | hum, can't find it. i'll just pull it off mah damned phone. | 13:06 |
| emwe | one stupid question, where does libEGL.so come from? source-built? | 13:07 |
| ryannathans | emwe: does it matter what haret/startup.txt i use | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | done. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, good question, i don't know. | 13:07 |
| emwe | the one you had been setting up earlier. | 13:07 |
| emwe | ^^ ryannathans | 13:07 |
| ryannathans | awesome | 13:08 |
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| jonpry | emwe, found it on a forum. we should build it, but the patch used to make it isn't know yet. detule is working on that | 13:08 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: the build requisite hw3d.zip on contian the GLES one. | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | wat | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | you want me to send another mail with them zipped? :P | 13:08 |
| emwe | i was whondering this as well just now. | 13:08 |
| emwe | lol, no. | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | i can gift wrap if needed | 13:09 |
| jonpry | lol | 13:09 |
| emwe | you been understanding me wrong. | 13:09 |
| jonpry | personalized cards? | 13:09 |
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| emwe | i am whondering where the libEGL.so in our build comes from | 13:09 |
| jonpry | source | 13:09 |
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| emwe | that's what i wanted to hear. so ehm... i don't get it. | 13:09 |
| emwe | the source built one isn't useful i take it? | 13:10 |
| jonpry | its broke | 13:10 |
| jonpry | pretty sure we have a source patch but its not tested yet | 13:10 |
| emwe | so you guys modded likely a vendor-baked one? | 13:10 |
| detule | emwe, jonpry i got egl building from source | 13:10 |
| detule | working | 13:10 |
| jonpry | this is a source built one with an unknown patch applied | 13:11 |
| jonpry | oh then we haz patch | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | boom | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | detule, swoops in to save the day | 13:11 |
| detule | same neocore score | 13:11 |
| emwe | detule: awaiting patch :P | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:11 |
| detule | so we can't be too far off | 13:11 |
| detule | jonpry, i also have a listing of the procnames that I am now returning null for | 13:11 |
| detule | not sure if that's helpful but one or more of those most be causing the issue | 13:12 |
| jonpry | is it the minimal set? | 13:12 |
| jonpry | list would be cool | 13:12 |
| detule | http://pastebin.com/F7Q1hqd9 <- that's the diff of the patch plus output while running neocore | 13:13 |
| detule | emwe, i'll format this properly tonight | 13:13 |
| ryannathans | I need some sleep, talk to you guys tomorrow | 13:13 |
| jonpry | yeah these are new pbuffers glBindBufferOES that we don't support | 13:15 |
| emwe | haven#t you peeps been binary modding some buffer sizes or so in libEGL.so? | 13:15 |
| emwe | getting even more confused now with seeing the patch. | 13:15 |
| emwe | sure somebody will write a lengthy patch mail to the ML | 13:16 |
| jonpry | interesting that we have glBindBufferARB i can probably use that to get wormhole and electronbeam | 13:16 |
| jonpry | emwe, no buffer sizes in egl. just libGLES | 13:16 |
| emwe | so the binary libEGL.so we got mailed around earlier is containg a similar "patch"? | 13:17 |
| emwe | sorry for these dumb questions. just wan't to understand it right. | 13:17 |
| emwe | i at least try to understand what i am pushing into the repository. | 13:18 |
| jonpry | i think so. didn't really disassemble it to verify how it works. but my limited understanding of the situation suggests it is the same patch. its impossible for the software renderer to have capabilities the hardware one doesn't. so the patch disables some of the software extensions to prevent that from happening. | 13:19 |
| jonpry | detule isn't glGetBufferParameterivARB supported? | 13:23 |
| emwe | thx | 13:24 |
| detule | it's possible it is, that' snot a minimal set | 13:24 |
| jonpry | strings libGles | grep glFoo | 13:25 |
| detule | i only see qglAPI_glGetBufferParameteriv | 13:26 |
| detule | qglAPIShim_glGetBufferParameteriv | 13:26 |
| detule | glGetBufferParameteriv | 13:26 |
| jonpry | interesting | 13:27 |
| jonpry | those should work assuming they get linked | 13:28 |
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| arrrghhh | lol emwe | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i was just responding to his email. | 13:49 |
| rneese_ | ? | 13:49 |
| rneese_ | whats up this am | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | just livin the dream | 13:50 |
| rneese_ | which dream is that. the one where the man pownz you ? or the one where we take over the world using android devices and MS gets rich off us | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see how any company could get rich off our project. | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | if anything we're keeping people from buying new devices... | 13:51 |
| rneese_ | as you know MS makes money off every android device | 13:51 |
| jonpry | not those made by bn | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | almost every android device. | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | which is insane, but i guess that's the life of a patent troll | 13:52 |
| rneese_ | yeah | 13:53 |
| rneese_ | thats why I want to keep the device I have now | 13:53 |
| rneese_ | and just update it as needed | 13:53 |
| jonpry | microsoft also makes money on every pc i buy. but i do not know what this windows stuff is | 13:54 |
| jonpry | some kind of spyware i guess | 13:57 |
| jonpry | or fraudware | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | malware | 13:58 |
| rneese_ | lol | 13:58 |
| stinebd | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/09/taiwanese-animators-take-on-alec-baldwin_n_1138983.html | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | i love the tiwanese animations | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | they seem to make these animations for any reason | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | i mean any. | 14:13 |
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| rpierce99 | webos open source? interesting... | 14:53 |
| stinebd | stupid amazon pushing my keyboard dock back | 14:55 |
| stinebd | i should cancel it and get it from best buy instead | 14:55 |
| emwe | stupid amazon make me buy a WD TV live (3rd gen) christmas present. likely the first amazon retoure i'll do. | 14:57 |
| emwe | seriously dissappointed by it. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | amazon made you buy a christmas present? | 14:57 |
| stinebd | amazon went up to him and held a gun to his head | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, webOS port tiem? | 14:58 |
| rpierce99 | supposedly webos is pretty slick, minus the lack of apps | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:58 |
| emwe | exactly like that. | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if the framework is good or not | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | but it looks slick for sure. | 14:59 |
| jonpry | what kind of license? | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was all built on HTML or some poop? | 14:59 |
| rpierce99 | http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/09/hp-webos-to-live-on-through-open-source-hardware-lineup-still/ | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, no word on license | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | they've merely stated that they're "going to" open source webOS | 15:00 |
| jonpry | its kind of useless if its like ms shared source or something | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news | 15:00 |
| jonpry | i actually like webos | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | HP will make the underlying code of webOS available under an open source license. | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:01 |
| detule | me too | 15:01 |
| rpierce99 | i'm going to try to get a refurb TP on sun | 15:01 |
| detule | it so damn functional | 15:01 |
| jonpry | oh yeah i almost forgot about that | 15:01 |
| rpierce99 | doubt i'll succeed though | 15:01 |
| jonpry | maybe we need to write some scripts to nab up all the tp's | 15:02 |
| rneese_ | webos hmmm | 15:02 |
| detule | the TP is kind of a toy, it was cool for a while but i haven't picked it up in some time | 15:02 |
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| jonpry | i imagine all tablets are like that | 15:03 |
| jonpry | what are you really supposed to do with it | 15:03 |
| rneese_ | but why would you run webos on a phone | 15:03 |
| rneese_ | lol | 15:03 |
| jonpry | palm pre | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, browse the web? | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what a tablet is good for., | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | it's certainly not good for creation of any content really. | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | unless you draw on it... | 15:04 |
| jonpry | yeah i do that occasionally. but i usually have a pc nearby | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen people taking notes on 'em in meetings. useless. | 15:04 |
| rpierce99 | in my house we have 0 personal laptops | 15:05 |
| rpierce99 | the desktop is in the basement | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | in my house we have 0 business laptops. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not allowed to take it home, lol. | 15:05 |
| detule | i have a kbd for mine and use it as a laptop with the ubuntu chroot from time to time, but that's because the last laptop i bought was in 2001 | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:06 |
| detule | sucker still runs | 15:06 |
| detule | can't kill it | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | my laptop from 2004 finally got unbearable | 15:07 |
| detule | PIII 512mb ram with puppy linux on it | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | so i just bought a new lappy a few months ago. | 15:07 |
| detule | i just can't get adb to work on it | 15:07 |
| rneese_ | yeah I have had the same laptop for 5 years and it runs great | 15:07 |
| stinebd | [15:04:40] <arrrghhh> it's certainly not good for creation of any content really. | 15:07 |
| jonpry | the trailing edge of technology? | 15:07 |
| stinebd | unless it has some sort of keyboard jigger | 15:07 |
| rneese_ | its a core2duo | 15:07 |
| rneese_ | it does the job | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | C2D isn't too old | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, but then you have two pieces to lug around? | 15:07 |
| stinebd | the jigger locks the tablet in place son | 15:08 |
| stinebd | boom, one piece | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize that was the formal definition of jigger | 15:08 |
| stinebd | look it up | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | and you can transport with this jigger? | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | i have a feeling i shouldn't do this at work. | 15:08 |
| jonpry | i can type at like half speed on touchpad | 15:08 |
| stinebd | strange, i never get that feeling | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol epic. | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jigger | 15:09 |
| jonpry | but the keyboard is no good because it doesn't ctrl+alt and stuff | 15:09 |
| detule | oh yeah you need patience with the kbd | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | which i have none | 15:09 |
| detule | no ESC | 15:09 |
| detule | no F-keys | 15:10 |
| jonpry | can't background jobs | 15:10 |
| stinebd | it definitely has at least one F key | 15:10 |
| jonpry | or kill things | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | i think i blew one of the drivers in these earbuds. | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | never done that before... | 15:10 |
| stinebd | did you swallow? | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | nah, didn't pay enough. | 15:10 |
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| rneese_ | c2d ? | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | core2duo? | 15:35 |
| rneese_ | o | 15:36 |
| rneese_ | ok | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:37 |
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| jonpry | arrrghhh, i found this gentoo guide that explained what is going on to get the dedicated graphics running. i haven't tried it. but it looks like it would work on radeon too | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | cool, shoot me the link if you don't mind. | 15:39 |
| jonpry | http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/X.Org/nVidia_Optimus | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 15:40 |
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| rneese_ | ok new battery came for my phone | 16:08 |
| rneese_ | the other one was bulging | 16:09 |
| rneese_ | and not keeping a charge | 16:09 |
| jonpry | detule, you ever find out why that one fps2d goes at 60fps? | 16:27 |
| detule | no, i tried dex2jar as well and i still couldn't see anything in the diff | 16:28 |
| detule | i guess my dis-assembly skillz are non-existent | 16:28 |
| jonpry | i think it has something to do with copybit | 16:28 |
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| rneese_ | ok whats going on ? | 18:27 |
| rneese_ | anything good | 18:27 |
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| mhsy | hello | 20:01 |
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| ryannathans | morning | 22:09 |
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