| arrrghhh | he made a lot of good ones | 00:00 |
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| arrrghhh | there was a drunken droid one, i liked that one best :P | 00:00 |
| rneese_ | ok so I can make multi data files and mount them ? | 00:06 |
| rneese_ | as sd or just the 1 | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | uhm, no | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think you can have multiple data.img files and use them at the same time. | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | i guess you could have multiple and rename/swap them out, but you wouldn't be able to do this while in android. you'd have to reboot, rename the files in winmo, and boot android again. | 00:09 |
| rneese_ | the other issue I found is connecting the device to a windows laptop | 00:10 |
| rneese_ | it can not attach to the device | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | you can | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | however | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | USB mass storage doesn't work | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | please read the FAQ | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | there's a way to fake it. | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | seriously that thing has evolved over a long time | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried to put all the common questions there | 00:11 |
| rneese_ | ok | 00:12 |
| rneese_ | well I will spend more time with it tomorrow. and glad you all have done this work | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 00:13 |
| rneese_ | when is your next goal date for the next release ? | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | there aren't any | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | ever | 00:13 |
| rneese_ | ok | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | it's an open source project where people donate time | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | so when the next release is ready, it's released. | 00:13 |
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| rneese_ | well on my next paycheck this friday I can donate money | 00:14 |
| rneese_ | to help wupport the project | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | sounds good | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/w/donate.php | 00:16 |
| rneese_ | ok night | 00:21 |
| rneese_ | chat tomorrow | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 00:21 |
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| rneese_ | morning | 07:48 |
| rneese_ | ok I resized the data.img lastnight | 07:48 |
| rneese_ | but it still saying itsonly 256 inside the unit | 07:49 |
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| rneese_ | ok the data img maker tool is saying it resizes the file. but when you go ingot he phone and click on storage it still says only 256 of storage | 08:55 |
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| rneese_ | ok I upgraded the 03-25-2001 system img and sound stops working | 11:38 |
| rneese_ | lol | 11:38 |
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| detule | rneese_, GB? | 12:06 |
| rneese_ | yes | 12:07 |
| detule | the official GB build is outdated, you are better off with FRX7.1 for now | 12:07 |
| detule | i mean, way better off | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | FR is froyo right | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | I thoght FR was older | 12:07 |
| detule | froyo saw an update in july | 12:08 |
| rneese_ | ok | 12:08 |
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| rneese_ | looking for the link to the fryoy build | 12:09 |
| rneese_ | for the unit I have | 12:09 |
| rneese_ | the touchpro2 | 12:09 |
| detule | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052 | 12:11 |
| detule | same link for all variants | 12:11 |
| rneese_ | ok and it looks like gps semi works in froyo ? | 12:12 |
| detule | works fine | 12:12 |
| rneese_ | ok | 12:13 |
| rneese_ | its not working in GB | 12:13 |
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| rneese_ | ok building sd now | 12:19 |
| rneese_ | I made a data.img of 2 gigs on it | 12:19 |
| rneese_ | hopingit works | 12:19 |
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| rneese_ | by default it should make a data.img of 2g | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | it is 256mb so people with 512mb sd cards can use it | 12:20 |
| rpierce99 | and really, with the apps that actually run on our port and the speed of the phone, i've never needed more than 256mb | 12:21 |
| rneese_ | well I found on the gb build even if I resized the data.img file to 2 gig it was still saying it was only 256 | 12:21 |
| rneese_ | using the resize tool | 12:21 |
| rneese_ | I am hoping that with the data.img file aready on the sd it will work better | 12:22 |
| rneese_ | but I cant wait for a tool to wipe windows off the phone and install xdandroid | 12:25 |
| rneese_ | any status onthe speakerphone fix ? | 12:26 |
| rneese_ | in froyo ? | 12:27 |
| rpierce99 | speakerphone fix? | 12:27 |
| rneese_ | the unit I have if you flip it over when on a call it goes into sp mode | 12:28 |
| rneese_ | but last I read did not work on the android builds | 12:28 |
| rpierce99 | android has a button to enable speakerphone | 12:28 |
| rpierce99 | flipping it over doesn't do anything | 12:28 |
| rneese_ | well once I learn enough I want to try and get it working. there is also a mute buton on the back of the phone | 12:29 |
| rpierce99 | and that can be enabled with rootfs changes | 12:34 |
| rpierce99 | there are keymaps that control that | 12:34 |
| rpierce99 | but not all rhods have it so it's not built in to xdandroid | 12:34 |
| rpierce99 | er not all xdandroid phones i mean | 12:34 |
| rneese_ | ok it did not like the custome data.img file I generated with the tool | 12:37 |
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| detule | emwe, you once mentioned a topa + spi_bus issue, how did it manifest itself? | 12:44 |
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| rneese_ | is there a how to on mapping buttons ? | 12:59 |
| rneese_ | rpierce99? | 12:59 |
| rpierce99 | well, you can either steal the keymaps out of F22's old rootfs here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935710&highlight=F22, or see the end of that thread for some people discussing how to do this for themselves, some of them figured it out, some did not | 13:01 |
| rneese_ | ok the data.img maker is having issues | 13:06 |
| emwe | detule: iirc when spi bus was disabled in microp-bma150 (look for the verbose comment) there've been consumers of the SPI bus which needed it, but userland didn't enable the bma150 again on resuming the device. so it caused panel wake issues. been quite a while though. i got a spi disable/enable in the -topa-led code. just try how it behaves. i disabled it for some reason i don't recall :) .. likely some flakiness. | 13:07 |
| emwe | detule: btw, i had a shitload of incall mic stuff today. i could near nothing.. no earpiece, no mic. then i wen't to winmo and this bitch though i had headphones in... only could fix it by playing music in wince and stopping. and then plug out earphones and the icon wen't away... | 13:07 |
| emwe | detule: couldn't even call in wince. mic and earpiece silent as well... | 13:08 |
| detule | re: spi: i've seen your spi code in -led, you aren't using it right? | 13:08 |
| detule | re: headphones, yeah my phone certainly has moments in wince when i get the headphone indicator on when there's no headphones in.....i guess this could be causing audio problems in android too | 13:09 |
| detule | back to spi, i am seeing some pane issues in 3.1 (can't wake it up after it suspends during a call), and i guess it could be a large number of things, but it goes away after i disable this decrepit g-sensor | 13:10 |
| rneese_ | ok bluetooth works in froyo on myphone cool | 13:11 |
| rpierce99 | just don't install pandora or enable bluetooth in winmo | 13:11 |
| rneese_ | ? whats wrong with pandora | 13:11 |
| rpierce99 | will freak out bluetooth | 13:12 |
| rneese_ | ok | 13:12 |
| rneese_ | well alot more is working wich is nice | 13:15 |
| rneese_ | ok reloaded and rebooting | 13:23 |
| rneese_ | ok got droid explorer working | 13:30 |
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| rneese_ | ok have any of you got a sip phone working ? | 14:33 |
| rneese_ | I have tried 3cx and csip | 14:33 |
| rneese_ | cant get autio on either | 14:33 |
| rpierce99 | looks like some others have had troubles but no one bothered to troubleshoot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176468&highlight=SIP | 14:39 |
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| detule | way to go and stir up the ML | 15:26 |
| detule | i bet you have a stash of these old commits that you can use at random intervals | 15:26 |
| emwe | nah, i just had the mail still lying in my inbox marked "important" | 15:35 |
| emwe | the patch's been out for a while already. | 15:35 |
| emwe | detule: regarding spi, i am sure the bus just stays on forever. according to wis it's not that of a big power drainer. | 15:36 |
| detule | really, i thought wistilt was saying it is a big drain | 15:36 |
| emwe | the last time we spoke about it, he said it was neglectable... | 15:36 |
| detule | but yeah something funny is going on with the old bma driver after i took out -klt, after i disabled it in 3.1 it's smooth sailing | 15:37 |
| emwe | the topic comes up once in a while. | 15:37 |
| emwe | the old driver doesn't disable the spi bus. | 15:37 |
| emwe | at least if my #if 0 is still in there. | 15:37 |
| detule | it's doing something | 15:37 |
| emwe | before nothing disabled it. | 15:37 |
| emwe | so something else is still up | 15:37 |
| emwe | so much shit pilling up here again... | 15:38 |
| emwe | i pulled some CA patches and it seems userland is calling into kernel sensor drivers too early | 15:38 |
| detule | this with the LS | 15:38 |
| emwe | with the "patches" i can't let the device fall asleep. mmc and bma are/remotely are messing with wakelocks when the shouldn't anymore on suspend. | 15:39 |
| emwe | it will crash due to a quite strict BUG() call. | 15:39 |
| emwe | but now back to tpa2016d2 | 15:40 |
| emwe | haven#t done much since friday... | 15:40 |
| emwe | nothing so to say. | 15:40 |
| detule | hm perhaps this was the issue with bma on 3.1 if those CA patches made it upstream | 15:41 |
| detule | don't know next i will try and kang your bma driver to see if it's any better | 15:41 |
| emwe | did you get a stracktrace and reboot? | 15:41 |
| emwe | CA has the driver ... so i think our userland is too fast, or getting signaled we are all functional which isn't the case | 15:42 |
| detule | no, no stacktrace, just complete unresponsiveness when device suspends (green led) during phone call | 15:42 |
| emwe | aha | 15:42 |
| emwe | my back cover is falling apart... hard to get a replacement in europe :/ | 15:42 |
| emwe | for a RHOD400 that is... | 15:43 |
| detule | yeah mine is cracked too, it's almost to the point where the stylus is holding it in place | 15:43 |
| emwe | exactly the case for me :) | 15:44 |
| emwe | the stylus side hinge(?) is broken. | 15:44 |
| emwe | that plastic nibble. | 15:44 |
| emwe | so, no my gf will kill me... testing dial tone "loudness" issue | 15:45 |
| detule | that's funny exactly the same hinge is off on mine, must be a weak point | 15:46 |
| emwe | the right handers like push the back cover more on that side to the top then on the other. | 15:46 |
| emwe | s/like/likely | 15:46 |
| detule | so you added those dualmic probe statements? they do you any good? | 15:46 |
| emwe | no, it's for the speaker amplifier. dual mic probe? for a1010? | 15:47 |
| emwe | or no a3xxx? i keep forgetting what was what :) | 15:47 |
| detule | the stuff in htcrhodium_microp_audio_probe | 15:47 |
| emwe | ah those. well, i dunno if they are good or bad. think safe to keep, eh? | 15:48 |
| emwe | the thing is, i am not getting many calls. but today i got and had quite some issues as stated earlier. | 15:48 |
| emwe | but i had some messings in acoustic/audio soo... | 15:48 |
| detule | that headphone thing, i've had a lot of issues in winmo with the headphone jack....pretty much every tie i plug anything in the 3.5mm i have to spend some time after i unplug getting it to believe nothing is plugged in | 15:49 |
| emwe | this was the first time ever i had this | 15:49 |
| emwe | i am constantly listening to music at work in silent/vibrate mode. i unplug, take the call, replug, fine. | 15:49 |
| emwe | even took battery out for a while. didn't help | 15:50 |
| detule | did you ever decide if building with the new toolchain was worth it? | 15:50 |
| emwe | regarding speaker amplifier, i think we just should keep the wince CSV values without messing with them. i explicitely lowered AGC settings and it sounds fine for me now. think we can keep it as is... | 15:50 |
| emwe | 2011? i never did benchmarking. no time. | 15:50 |
| emwe | perhaps jit causes many alignment traps ... more then int:fast.... just thinking loud. | 15:52 |
| emwe | btw, in a calm minute, can you test out .35 rhod panel power hook code? it's coming from the dlls, so... beware of the mddi client write you guys moved from unblank to init or vice-versa... | 15:53 |
| emwe | in case stuff is getting boring for you. | 15:53 |
| detule | i understand nothing about the panel code | 15:53 |
| emwe | the power hook is "easy". | 15:54 |
| emwe | up till rhod300 two vregs, above that two gpio are toggled. | 15:54 |
| emwe | for power that is. | 15:54 |
| emwe | timings are from the dlls. looked through this with abels help and it looks identical to .27-nand except i enabled all code. | 15:55 |
| emwe | so, the increasing dial tone stuff is definitively coming from the max gain and agc settings. | 15:57 |
| emwe | it's just once slightly increasing now... | 15:57 |
| detule | that power_client hook that gets called every suspend/resume? | 15:57 |
| emwe | yap. it's the last on suspend and first on resume which is called | 15:58 |
| emwe | blank->deinit->power | power->init->unblank | 15:58 |
| emwe | it's about panel power savings. dunno how much power drain you got | 15:58 |
| detule | thanks for the diagram that's what i needed :) | 15:59 |
| emwe | rpierce99 and me had a rough 40% drain over night. | 15:59 |
| emwe | dunno how yours does | 15:59 |
| emwe | so 40% in 7 hours. i think it got better for me. haven't had a chance to measure really, because somehow this bitch dies over night. | 15:59 |
| emwe | sensors might cause hickups... | 16:00 |
| emwe | brb5 | 16:00 |
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| detule | whoa quite a lot going on in that power function | 16:05 |
| detule | btw the blank and unblank are identical to .35 from first glance | 16:06 |
| mgross029 | detule: emwe so interesting. I compiled a .27 kernel and put it on with gb the prox works differently than in .35 or .39 It reports FAR and won't report NEAR until you put it close to your head. | 16:18 |
| detule | .27 with prox? | 16:18 |
| mgross029 | Yep | 16:18 |
| emwe | hm, i had the same thought right now... | 16:18 |
| mgross029 | I was shocked | 16:18 |
| detule | did you make any adjustments to this prox kernel you compiled? | 16:19 |
| emwe | are you sure you are seeing prox activity? | 16:19 |
| mgross029 | No | 16:19 |
| mgross029 | I will check interrupts one moment | 16:20 |
| emwe | there should be /dev/cm3602. but should be not there in .27 | 16:20 |
| emwe | there's virtually no driver. | 16:20 |
| detule | wait didn't acl put it in .27 | 16:21 |
| mgross029 | yeah that was what I was just typing. :) | 16:22 |
| detule | right so it's the same driver as in .39 | 16:22 |
| mgross029 | 10 msmgpio capella_cm3602 | 16:22 |
| detule | and both report far | 16:22 |
| detule | until you put it next to your head | 16:22 |
| detule | as it should | 16:22 |
| mgross029 | Correct | 16:22 |
| detule | .35's capella driver is slightly different, there's some enable/disable irq calls that aren't called | 16:22 |
| mgross029 | Well .39 I think goes black first iirc, but I would have to double check that. | 16:22 |
| detule | double check it | 16:22 |
| emwe | .35 abel put in htc's variant of the driver. | 16:23 |
| emwe | i took the "stock" one from somewhere... or rather. i think it was already in. | 16:23 |
| emwe | bah.. what am i writing. abel has put htc's variant into his tree. | 16:23 |
| emwe | i took the one which was there in .35 iirc. | 16:23 |
| emwe | should be working the same from a driver perspective. perhaps i'll go look what CA did. | 16:24 |
| detule | in 39 you can even test what the sensor is saying | 16:27 |
| detule | cat /dev/cm3602 | 16:27 |
| mgross029 | Ok. Booting into 39 now | 16:27 |
| detule | even better boot 3.1 :) | 16:27 |
| mgross029 | Yes | 16:27 |
| detule | it's on the autobuild | 16:28 |
| mgross029 | Not since your 31 commits today though. :p | 16:28 |
| detule | should be working fine....no g-sensor | 16:28 |
| emwe | lol | 16:29 |
| mgross029 | My 39 kernel was from 11/22, but it should be good for prox testing. I know there were quite a few more commits since then | 16:29 |
| detule | lot of things have happened since 11/22, kernel is a bit faster nowadays | 16:31 |
| mgross029 | Yep 39 prox works the same as 27, sorry about the miss report ^^ However, I still have problems with no ringer and incoming call mic working with the kernel I had there | 16:31 |
| detule | fix it | 16:32 |
| emwe | lol | 16:32 |
| mgross029 | I'm trying. Just wish I wasn't so out of practice. :p | 16:32 |
| mgross029 | Plus rl has been keeping me too busy. | 16:33 |
| emwe | hah... starting to get busier here as well. | 16:33 |
| emwe | ordered a "kinderwagen" this weekend. | 16:34 |
| mgross029 | a1010 works fine on 35 as far as I can tell. I think that could be enabled. Just my thoughts | 16:34 |
| emwe | dualmic? | 16:35 |
| mgross029 | I tried on 39 and seen the same results. It looks like it may be enabled on 27 as far as I could tell. | 16:35 |
| emwe | it is enabled on .27-acoustic. | 16:36 |
| mgross029 | a1010 is noise reduction. I had music playing and gps voice talking at the same time, both played well together. One did not over power the other. | 16:36 |
| mgross029 | .27 acoustic I had some problems with, but it's been a while and I can't recall what they were. :-\ | 16:37 |
| mgross029 | The only mic that seems to work is the one at the bottom of the phone no matter if you are on speaker phone or not. | 16:38 |
| emwe | i think it's a mixed chip noise reduction and secondary mic i'd assume. | 16:39 |
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| mgross029 | Possibly. Not sure if htc changed anthing from TI or not. | 16:52 |
| mgross029 | *Audience not TI | 16:53 |
| emwe | oh acoustic seems strange. | 17:10 |
| emwe | somehow stuff/code is getting called twice in a row ... | 17:11 |
| emwe | when starting and stopping audio. | 17:11 |
| mgross029 | Hm I think I noticed that but it didn't really dawn on me when I was watching the logs fly by. | 17:12 |
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| emwe | it's so hard to watch the logs. :) | 17:12 |
| mgross029 | emwe: so you bought a wagon for the little one? :) Getting ready | 17:13 |
| emwe | i am grepping different info in different logcat sessions with grep | 17:13 |
| emwe | it's 14 weeks delivery time... so yeah. | 17:13 |
| emwe | and christmas holidays it seems | 17:13 |
| mgross029 | Yeah need to be able to turn off everything but what you want to see. :) | 17:13 |
| emwe | already had to buy a little locker to put the baby cloths in there which we already got. | 17:14 |
| emwe | getting tight here in this small flat | 17:14 |
| mgross029 | Yep done that before to. Sometimes it wouldn't report so I piped to a log file then had another window open watching real time | 17:14 |
| emwe | we aren't motivated to move away... | 17:14 |
| mgross029 | He'll be small though. :p | 17:15 |
| emwe | yeah. when i take my parents-time next year, perhaps we are gonna do the step | 17:15 |
| mgross029 | His stuff will take up more room than him. heh | 17:15 |
| emwe | it's so comfortable right now. 2 minutes away from work. so i can quickly run home if something happens. | 17:15 |
| mgross029 | Yeah that is nice | 17:16 |
| emwe | lifetime is priceless. | 17:16 |
| emwe | that the right word? | 17:16 |
| mgross029 | I'm an hour or more depends on traffic. | 17:16 |
| mgross029 | Yep that works | 17:16 |
| emwe | ;) | 17:16 |
| emwe | and now the bed calls. | 17:16 |
| emwe | catch you guys on wednesday. no tinkering tomorrow... | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | Yep and traffic calls me. heh | 17:17 |
| emwe | night. | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | night | 17:17 |
| emwe | happy 1 hour ride. | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | lol | 17:17 |
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| emwe | geez, that would make me sick. | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | thanx | 17:17 |
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| emwe | laters. | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | Wait till it snows | 17:17 |
| mgross029 | laters | 17:17 |
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| arrrghhh | bzo, how goes it sir | 19:29 |
| bzo | hi arrrghhh | 19:29 |
| bzo | hear you guys got some snow | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | roads are clear, just the sidestreets are a mess. | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | they're not that bad even, just not plowed. | 19:30 |
| bzo | is it a problem at all with 4wd? | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | hell no | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | not really a problem with front wheel | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | my gf drives my old nissan maxima | 19:30 |
| bzo | don't tell my wife, I'm pretty sure I need a raptor | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | i have mixed feelings about those trucks | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | they are beastly tho. | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | just don't go jumping them baja style. | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | (which is ironically what they're supposed to be made for...) | 19:32 |
| bzo | I suppose it's hard to justify unless you're off road a lot | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:33 |
| bzo | with the 10mpg and all, lol | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | they're overpriced IMHO | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | if you want an f-150 | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | get an ecoboost | 19:33 |
| bzo | can't put a price on the intimidation factor though | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | touche. | 19:33 |
| bzo | yeah, those look nice | 19:33 |
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