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arrrghhh | stinebd, so is there any reason why hyc's dmesg magic didn't make it in? did he ever request it? | 01:06 |
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arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14990181&postcount=17 | 01:06 |
arrrghhh | i know how you love it when i just point at binaries :D | 01:06 |
arrrghhh | at any rate, seems like it would really help with troubleshooting, if everyone was running this dmesg. | 01:06 |
arrrghhh | in fact, this confuses me as to where to replace the dmesg binary | 01:09 |
arrrghhh | i know in /bin, but in the rootfs or system image? they both seem to just link to other places. | 01:10 |
rpierce99 | if it was in the system image wouldn't it be /system/bin? | 01:16 |
rpierce99 | i mean unless bin/dmesg is a symlink to /system/bin/dmesg | 01:16 |
arrrghhh | well in the rootfs it looked like a symlink to busybox | 01:16 |
arrrghhh | and in the system image it looked like a symlink to toolbox | 01:17 |
rpierce99 | run which dmesg | 01:17 |
rpierce99 | then ls -l that one | 01:17 |
arrrghhh | on the phone? | 01:17 |
rpierce99 | or via adb | 01:18 |
rpierce99 | ? | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | i did | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | just shows up as /bin/dmesg | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | oh well | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | i push'd hyc's to this setup | 01:18 |
rpierce99 | so /bin/dmesg is the one thats running, which is linked to what | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | not sure where i pushed it lol | 01:18 |
rpierce99 | busybox i guess | 01:18 |
arrrghhh | oh well | 01:18 |
rpierce99 | so you'd either have to put one in a location that is earlier in the path than bin | 01:19 |
arrrghhh | just wanting to get this dmesg in every build | 01:19 |
arrrghhh | whether it's rootfs or system... | 01:19 |
arrrghhh | t'would be nice | 01:19 |
arrrghhh | looks SO much better | 01:20 |
arrrghhh | pastebin.com/ak2mvbQu | 01:20 |
arrrghhh | holy date/timestamps! | 01:20 |
rpierce99 | /bin is the first entry in the path | 01:21 |
rpierce99 | so that's always going to be the one thats run | 01:21 |
arrrghhh | yea | 01:22 |
rpierce99 | i think you'd have to kill that symlink in rootfs and replace it with a real binary | 01:22 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 01:22 |
arrrghhh | i guess that's what i effectively did | 01:22 |
arrrghhh | remount / rw, rm /bin/dmesg, adb push dmesg | 01:22 |
arrrghhh | oO forgot to remount ro | 01:23 |
arrrghhh | oh well, cya. | 01:23 |
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sykosoft | WisTilt2, how long do you need a rhod400 for? I have one without service, would that suffice? You can hold on to it for a few months, but I would like it back eventually (it's a spare) | 01:51 |
rpierce99 | wrong room | 01:53 |
sykosoft | yep...man | 01:53 |
sykosoft | just accidentally typed in xdanroid for the channel | 01:53 |
sykosoft | *sigh* | 01:53 |
sykosoft | Thanks for letting me know (wasn't even paying attention) | 01:54 |
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crypticmofo | hola | 10:01 |
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crypticmofo | whats new | 10:55 |
arrrghhh | do you have a question...? | 10:57 |
crypticmofo | nope | 10:57 |
crypticmofo | saying hi | 10:57 |
rpierce99 | he asked a question, lol | 10:57 |
crypticmofo | so my wife saw android on her tp2 yesterday well her backup phone that im using | 10:58 |
crypticmofo | she was like wtf | 10:58 |
crypticmofo | i was like yea touch it .. its not slow | 10:58 |
rpierce99 | So my wife saw.... she was like wtf... i was like touch it ... | 10:59 |
crypticmofo | lol | 10:59 |
arrrghhh | touche | 11:03 |
arrrghhh | TOUCH IT | 11:03 |
arrrghhh | anyhoo, biopsy tiem. | 11:03 |
arrrghhh | w00t | 11:03 |
detule | my wife saw me (trying to) play angry birds and she felt so bad for me....and her pity made me feel like i am crazy | 11:10 |
rpierce99 | that sounds more like mine | 11:11 |
jonpry | lol | 11:11 |
jonpry | detule, you know about make ARCH=arm menuconfig ? | 11:13 |
detule | i do now | 11:13 |
jonpry | ic | 11:13 |
detule | when i build first i do make ARCH=arm msm_defconfig | 11:13 |
detule | i guess it makes sense when firing up menuconfig to specify the ARCH | 11:14 |
detule | that would explain a few things | 11:14 |
detule | anyways jonpry i see CA has 3.0 msm tree | 11:14 |
detule | when patching evdev and sdio in 3.1 you think it makes sense to bring over some files from there? | 11:14 |
jonpry | evdev is trivial. switch the time source used for event time, and add a short wakelock | 11:15 |
detule | ok, sdio looks more complicated | 11:15 |
jonpry | sdio is mostly stuff from broadcom | 11:16 |
detule | and the ca stuff has all the embedded business already there | 11:16 |
jonpry | just make sure it is the same one. there is like 3 different ways to deal with the problem atm. which is why none of it is mainlined | 11:16 |
detule | alright | 11:17 |
detule | oh running msm_defconfig through make ARCH=arm menuconfig , the output looks much much more reasonable than just make menuconfig, in fact it looks to be currently in good shape apart from couple of EXT4 dependencies that I introduced when I enabled ext4 support | 11:31 |
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emwe | you guys discovering menuconfig, eh? ;) | 11:34 |
detule | i am | 11:35 |
emwe | wtf?! <6>[ 2.960174] io scheduler cfq registered (default) | 11:39 |
rpierce99 | someone was asking about that yesterday | 11:39 |
emwe | yeah, read it. perhaps he'll show up again. | 11:41 |
emwe | must have screwed my .config and not reconfigured after some tetsing... back to deadline. | 11:42 |
detule | jonpry, clean msm_defconfig https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod/commit/cbf844ed6b077807f7cadada668a0c94680a0811 | 11:48 |
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crypticmofo | ok | 12:33 |
crypticmofo | so i have a working xdandroid / android on my tp2 | 12:33 |
crypticmofo | looking for apps now .. any good recommendations .. or do i just stick with http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=491 | 12:33 |
arrrghhh | apps for what | 12:37 |
arrrghhh | that section would be apps for winmo... | 12:37 |
crypticmofo | just apps .. exporer apps / game apps | 12:37 |
crypticmofo | aw | 12:37 |
arrrghhh | astro | 12:37 |
arrrghhh | for file explorer | 12:37 |
crypticmofo | so im assuming just do android apps correct ? | 12:37 |
arrrghhh | i don't play games. labyrinth lite and words with friends is about it | 12:37 |
arrrghhh | i don't know what you mean | 12:37 |
helicopter88 | fruit slice is fun | 12:37 |
crypticmofo | so that apps section is only for winmo correct ? | 12:38 |
arrrghhh | ffs | 12:38 |
arrrghhh | yes | 12:38 |
arrrghhh | the phone is winmo | 12:38 |
arrrghhh | so that section is for winmo. | 12:38 |
crypticmofo | k | 12:39 |
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emwe | how about android market and be done?! you can browse it even on market.android.com and remoetly install on your device when logging in with your google account you also setup on your device. | 12:45 |
arrrghhh | that's crazy talk emwe | 12:46 |
crypticmofo | anyone on **Complete GingerBread Bundle!!** ? | 12:47 |
crypticmofo | if so how is it | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | old | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | outdated | 12:47 |
crypticmofo | oh | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | stick to FroYo until there's an update. | 12:47 |
crypticmofo | its the second link on the andorid fourms | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | so | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | it's a sticky | 12:47 |
crypticmofo | k | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | ... | 12:47 |
emwe | arrrghhh: huh? guess how i install apps... new market app sucks so much... | 12:47 |
crypticmofo | just looking for stuff im missing | 12:48 |
crypticmofo | or things not on my device that should be | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | emwe, i'm teasing. not sure how you say that in german. shoddenfroid? | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | i can't even butcher german properly. | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | crypticmofo, that's ridiculous. "things not on my device that should be" <---- everyone will have a different opinion here. | 12:48 |
emwe | schadenfreude? but teasing is something like stenkern/ärgern. | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | emwe, you're awesome. | 12:49 |
emwe | feeling teased again :P | 12:49 |
arrrghhh | nah, you are. bwhahaha | 12:50 |
emwe | did i meantion that this tpa2016d2 is driving me nuts? i can't get it right ... | 12:51 |
emwe | it's the automatic gain control, i am sure | 12:51 |
emwe | because it doesn't happen when you play music over speaker... | 12:51 |
emwe | and it always resets if you wait long enough between presses so the chip powers down and comes up with stock config again | 12:52 |
emwe | need to figure some less aggressive agc setup for the chip with the luckily publicaly available docs | 12:52 |
arrrghhh | weird | 12:53 |
crypticmofo | dam arrrghhh your all over those fourms | 12:54 |
emwe | i don't recall to what dB value it currently will set the gain to. from the behaviour it sounds like max, which is +30dB | 12:54 |
emwe | rofl | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | crypticmofo, i have no life | 12:54 |
crypticmofo | wtf ubuntu | 13:00 |
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arrrghhh | wtfbuntu | 13:17 |
arrrghhh | my favorite distro | 13:17 |
jonpry | i'm switching to debian | 13:21 |
arrrghhh | heh | 13:22 |
jonpry | i fail to see what ubuntu offers anymore. just get delayed updates and be forced to use some horrible desktop | 13:23 |
arrrghhh | yea, debian is a good option | 13:24 |
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Achill | how to update android 2.0.1 to 2.2 ? | 13:45 |
Achill | copy all files in haret.exe folder ? | 13:45 |
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arrrghhh | Achill, 2.0.1!?! | 13:49 |
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arrrghhh | i would just start over at that point | 13:49 |
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Achill | yes i download 2.01 cab file | 13:49 |
Achill | and know i want 2.2 | 13:49 |
Achill | the last version | 13:50 |
helicopter88 | Achill,2.0.1? | 13:50 |
Achill | yesssssssss | 13:50 |
helicopter88 | that has already more than a year | 13:50 |
helicopter88 | how have you found that? | 13:50 |
Achill | http://www.filecrop.com/34176516/index.html | 13:50 |
Achill | from here | 13:50 |
helicopter88 | what phone do you have? | 13:50 |
arrrghhh | Achill, just start fresh with 2.2.2 | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171052 | 13:51 |
Achill | htc touch diamond p3700 | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | oh diam | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | i'm sorry | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171070 | 13:51 |
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Achill | nice i download full bandle | 13:52 |
Achill | now ? | 13:52 |
helicopter88 | read | 13:52 |
Achill | delete the last haret and copy ? | 13:52 |
helicopter88 | read | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | Achill, like i said start fresh | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | format your card, read that guide, profit | 13:53 |
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Achill | how much take to load ? | 14:16 |
Achill | in first time | 14:16 |
Achill | at* | 14:16 |
helicopter88 | max 10 mins | 14:16 |
Achill | huh i wait 20 minutes at least | 14:17 |
Achill | :/ | 14:17 |
helicopter88 | Where're you stuck? | 14:17 |
arrrghhh | did you see the boot animation? | 14:17 |
arrrghhh | or just endless flying text | 14:17 |
Achill | i click in haret.exe and now in my mobile's screen show xdandroid animation | 14:17 |
Achill | yes boot animation | 14:17 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | that sounds good | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | you're sure it's been 20 minutes? | 14:18 |
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Achill | yeap | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | or does it just feel like 20 | 14:18 |
Achill | no im sure | 14:18 |
Achill | :P | 14:18 |
Achill | look your last comment to me | 14:18 |
Achill | is 20:53 | 14:18 |
Achill | i wait a little bit more | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | well i don't know when you clicked haret. | 14:19 |
Achill | many times screen lags | 14:20 |
Achill | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171070&page=2 | 14:21 |
Achill | here you write 30 minutes | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | me? | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | you want to actually look before you speak? | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | anyhoo, i guess reboot and try again. | 14:21 |
Achill | ok | 14:22 |
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Achill | 21:25 | 14:26 |
Achill | now starts load | 14:26 |
Achill | ok i restart now | 14:42 |
Achill | cant wait anymore | 14:43 |
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detule | i am a fan of timestamped dmesg | 15:04 |
Tandyman100 | Any NAND testing to be done on a Rhod210? | 15:12 |
sythezn | helicopter88, i've installed the java6_u29 jdk and jre's but what do i do about the javac thing? | 15:14 |
helicopter88 | it is installed by jdk | 15:14 |
Achill | helicopter88 must cable in when run fist time haret ? | 15:18 |
helicopter88 | Achill: Never did that | 15:18 |
helicopter88 | and not sure where have you read about it.. | 15:19 |
helicopter88 | Achill: I've always done whatever the arrrghhh-made guide said | 15:21 |
helicopter88 | always succeded in booting | 15:22 |
sythezn | well...make's asking about javac | 15:22 |
helicopter88 | that's weird | 15:22 |
helicopter88 | jdk installed it here | 15:22 |
sythezn | hmmm... how'd you install it? | 15:23 |
helicopter88 | My memory is short | 15:23 |
helicopter88 | i can't remember | 15:23 |
sythezn | lol no worries | 15:23 |
sythezn | worked it out | 15:23 |
sythezn | i did a manual install | 15:23 |
sythezn | had to set path to my install dir /bin | 15:24 |
helicopter88 | type javac --version (if i remember right) | 15:25 |
helicopter88 | to check if it is 6_u29 | 15:25 |
sythezn | should be | 15:26 |
sythezn | i pointed it to my 6_u29 dir | 15:26 |
helicopter88 | checking is always better | 15:26 |
sythezn | we'll see now if it fixes the error 41 thingy | 15:26 |
sythezn | yeah... | 15:26 |
sythezn | how do i permanently set my paht var? | 15:27 |
sythezn | *path even | 15:28 |
rpierce99 | lmgtfy | 15:28 |
sythezn | :? | 15:28 |
helicopter88 | put it in .bashrc? | 15:28 |
sythezn | ah | 15:29 |
rpierce99 | T,IGIFY http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml | 15:29 |
sythezn | nvm, but thanks rpierce99 | 15:30 |
sythezn | I added it to path lol, I just wanted to not have to add it every time | 15:31 |
rpierce99 | yes, the link tells you how to do that | 15:31 |
helicopter88 | export PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin | 15:32 |
helicopter88 | at the end of .bashrc and you're done | 15:32 |
detule | export PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin:$PATH | 15:32 |
helicopter88 | yeah,i always forget the :$PATH | 15:32 |
helicopter88 | thanks detule | 15:32 |
rpierce99 | kind of important :) | 15:32 |
sythezn | lol thanks | 15:33 |
helicopter88 | that's why it always fail :) | 15:33 |
detule | you shouldn't export the path to jdk btw | 15:33 |
sythezn | why not? | 15:34 |
detule | /usr/java/default/bin is what you should have in there | 15:34 |
detule | and then use alternatives to change what default is symlinked to | 15:34 |
sythezn | ah, ty | 15:35 |
sythezn | /usr/java doesn't exist on my system | 15:36 |
detule | that's because you haven't used alternatives yet, "man" is your friend | 15:37 |
sythezn | yeah i have... | 15:37 |
sythezn | sudo update-alternatives --install {path to java} | 15:38 |
detule | afk | 15:38 |
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sythezn | thanks for the help guys. build seems to be running okay now :D | 15:46 |
Achill | one problem in call | 15:50 |
Achill | when i call my screen goes black | 15:50 |
Achill | and i cant close the call | 15:50 |
helicopter88 | sythezn: error 41 is always near the corner :) | 15:50 |
sythezn | i are beginning two sea this | 15:58 |
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arrrghhh | Achill, i answered your post | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | if the call is still going, the phone is OK. | 16:45 |
Achill | but how can i cancel one call | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | wake the phone | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | power button | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | does the RAPH have a prox sensor? | 16:48 |
arrrghhh | it's certainly not enabled in Android | 16:48 |
arrrghhh | who knows if it'll ever be... | 16:48 |
arrrghhh | DIAM, sorry. same diff, less RAM :P | 16:48 |
Achill | arrrghhh | 16:56 |
Achill | not working | 16:56 |
Achill | something goes wrong | 16:56 |
Achill | i press all buttons | 16:57 |
Achill | nothing, still black screen | 16:57 |
arrrghhh | dude | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | PATIENCE | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | is a virtue with this project | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | hit the power button | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | and wait | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | i'm telling you, if the phone call is still up the phone isn't dead. | 16:58 |
jonpry | probably an old kernel | 16:58 |
jonpry | and bild | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | could be | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | he's on DIAM | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | which is an atrocity | 16:59 |
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jonpry | oh | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | he's on 7.1 | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | kernel's not ancient | 16:59 |
jonpry | not sure if anyone has tested on diam in years | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | that's part of the problem | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | no DIAM users left. | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | certainly no devs left with DIAM | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | CDMA users are SOL in fact, they can't get data anymore with hyc's new RIL | 17:00 |
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detule | i think if we are to stick with IDLE there are probably many wakelocks that need to be changed from SUSPEND | 17:04 |
jonpry | i think my dog has anti bulimia | 17:04 |
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jonpry | throws up just so it can eat it again | 17:05 |
detule | my dog has been known to do something similar, though don't think she throws up on purpose | 17:05 |
jonpry | idle wakelocks shouldn't be necessary ever in theory | 17:06 |
jonpry | our pm may be a long way from realizing that | 17:07 |
hyc | i could probably do a merge of the current ril with the original fakegsm code | 17:08 |
hyc | but no way to test it... | 17:08 |
detule | punching out later folks | 17:09 |
hyc | and also if those old radios are as primitive as it seems, won't support cell location | 17:09 |
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arrrghhh | hyc, i think data w/no cell location would be better than no data and no cell loc.. | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | but there really aren't many users left with CDMA RAPH/DIAM's | 17:41 |
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hyc | yah, so kinda pointless | 18:35 |
hyc | looks like I will be getting a Droid4 when they come out next week | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | well considering since you worked with me to get the RAPH working on the radio at all, hardly anyone has complained about no data | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | aw... | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | i guess it was only a matter of time | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | your RHOD was dying | 18:36 |
hyc | yeah | 18:36 |
hyc | I could scrounge another one on eBay but would rather have modern hardware :P | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | can't say i blame you. | 18:37 |
arrrghhh | just makes me sad. | 18:37 |
arrrghhh | is the D4 going to be offered on TMO? | 18:37 |
hyc | dunno. going with VZ | 18:37 |
hyc | the rest of my company is already on VZ, has been for years. | 18:37 |
arrrghhh | oO | 18:37 |
arrrghhh | i see | 18:37 |
hyc | I went rogue in 2008 to gtet the G1 :P | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | yea, we're VZ as a company | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | we don't support Android devices tho | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | iOS and BB's only... bleh. | 18:38 |
hyc | yeah, bleah | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | so i just took the dumbphone they gave me. | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | oh well. i'm sure you'll enjoy the d4 | 18:39 |
arrrghhh | kb doesn't look quite as good as the tp2, but it should be a good performer. | 18:39 |
hyc | as long as I can get it SIM unlocked | 18:39 |
hyc | yeah, the D3 keyboard actually looks better to me | 18:39 |
hyc | but will find out when it's in-hand | 18:39 |
arrrghhh | the only reason i fault the d1/2/3/4 kb | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | is the soft keys (mushy feedback) | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | and they're all in a straight line | 18:41 |
hyc | ah | 18:41 |
hyc | D3 looked staggered | 18:41 |
hyc | D2 was staggered, only D1 got that wrong | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | the staggered approach is much better IMHO. but a kb is a kb, and they're hard to come by on Android devices. | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | orly... | 18:41 |
* arrrghhh looks for pics | 18:41 | |
arrrghhh | not staggered on the 3 | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | http://www.technobuffalo.com/files/2011/05/droid-3-keyboard.jpg | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | really tho, it doesn't look awful | 18:42 |
hyc | hmmm | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | the RAPH i used to have didn't have a staggered kb. it was good, just not as good as the TP2 :P | 18:42 |
hyc | the qwerty row is slightly offset from the asdf row | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | i don't get why HTC can make such a great kb, then completely forget they ever designed it. | 18:42 |
hyc | lol | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | surprising about the d4 | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | not much concrete info, and it's supposed to launch in a week | 18:44 |
hyc | basically a droid razr with kb | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | yea | 18:44 |
hyc | which sounds fine to me since razr is their high end | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | kb does look nice | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | http://timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/droid4.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=1 | 18:44 |
hyc | yeah | 18:44 |
hyc | same layout as D3 but different backlighting | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | yup | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | i was trying to see if it was going to be global like the d3 | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | i couldn't find info about that | 18:46 |
hyc | yeah, it's in their FCC certification docs | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | ah | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | lol, ofc you looked up those :P | 18:47 |
hyc | GSM/WCDMA supported, disabled in firmware | 18:47 |
hyc | heh | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | interesting | 18:47 |
hyc | I wanted to know :P | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | did the d3 have an unlocked SIM slot? | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | or unlockable | 18:47 |
hyc | it was unlockable | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | nice | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | AFAIK vz is pretty good about that | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | usually you can call 'em up and they'll give you the code | 18:47 |
hyc | D2 was probably best huh http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/28/droid-2-keyboard-makes-an-appearance/ | 18:48 |
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hyc | oh wait, no, 4 row | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | no dude | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | that kb was really mushy | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | keys aren't clearly defined | 18:48 |
hyc | ah, but staggered layout | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | d3 has a WAY better kb. | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | odd. it's almost like the raph's kb. | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | my buddy has a D2 | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | wasn't a big fan of the KB | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | good phone tho | 18:49 |
d3tul3 | hey jonpry as usual i have a questio | 18:50 |
d3tul3 | i was wondering why this guy is commented out https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.39/drivers/mmc/host/msm_sdcc.c#line1406 | 18:50 |
d3tul3 | or if it's irrelevant and the card always tests out as type_sdio | 18:52 |
jonpry | rootfs is funky w/ mmc_suspend | 18:54 |
d3tul3 | yeah i have no idea why it would work, but that call is in both .27 and .35 | 18:54 |
jonpry | i don't entirely understand why linux is unable to resume mmc | 18:54 |
jonpry | but its much easier if you just don't do it. that function ends up marking the card as removed | 18:55 |
d3tul3 | no power leaks? | 18:55 |
jonpry | well none that we can fix | 18:56 |
jonpry | if you power down the card, then it really does need to be reidentified | 18:56 |
d3tul3 | how does it work in .35? | 18:56 |
jonpry | dunno | 18:57 |
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* rpierce99 is getting really tired of people saying "root" and meaning "install alternate system image" | 20:00 | |
arrrghhh | wat | 20:03 |
rpierce99 | facebook, et al | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | odd | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | i don't think i've ever seen anyone say that... | 20:09 |
rpierce99 | everyone is doing it, it's annoying | 20:09 |
rpierce99 | "my phone is slow I think its time to root it" | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | this old lady just got hired and i'm training her | 20:09 |
rpierce99 | me: rooting it doesn't make it faster | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | she JUST got her first android phone | 20:09 |
rpierce99 | "i meant installing another ROM" | 20:09 |
rpierce99 | headdesk | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | i just let her think my phone runs android. not worth explaining. | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | i was showing her some of our internal website | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | s* | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | and she was getting lost clicking around winxp... | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | like she couldn't figure out how the tabs worked on IE | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | and kept opening new windows | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | i wanted to stab myself in the face | 20:10 |
rpierce99 | and what job did you all feel she was qualified for? | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | or her, then me. not sure. | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | i have no idea | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | she used to work at level3 | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | so in theory she knows how to troubleshoot circuits | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | in practice, i don't know. | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | today was her 2nd day | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | wow, i actually got a call that i was able to answer in time | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | mic didn't work till i flipped the speakerphone on/off lol | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | funny i never really had that problem until i started messing with acoustic builds | 20:14 |
arrrghhh | oh well | 20:14 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, using a different client? | 20:45 |
jonpry | no i just don't think it ever worked quite right | 20:46 |
arrrghhh | hrm. it used to | 20:46 |
arrrghhh | if you're on xchat put your password in the server password box | 20:46 |
arrrghhh | NOT the nickserv password box | 20:46 |
arrrghhh | trust me ;) | 20:46 |
jonpry | i put it in both | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | perhaps remove it from the nickserv password box...? | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | that's odd | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | i only have it in the server password box. | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | it used to work, i remember when you were first setting that up. | 20:47 |
jonpry | trouble is that i somehow turned off the menubar in xchat | 20:48 |
jonpry | so i dunno how to do anything | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | right click on the freenode tree on the left | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | i think there's settings thar | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | er | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | actually you can just right click in the window | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | settings -> preferences | 20:49 |
jonpry | then what :) | 20:49 |
jonpry | view->menu bar | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | er | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | sorry, i'm retarded | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | ctrl-s | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | edit the network you use to connect with | 20:50 |
jonpry | one sec | 20:51 |
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arrrghhh | boom | 20:52 |
jonpry | well i think that was not a good test | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | did you quit the client? | 20:52 |
arrrghhh | g2g, sorry | 20:52 |
jonpry | it didn't auto enter any rooms | 20:52 |
jonpry | causes i forced the disconnect maybe | 20:52 |
jonpry | er | 20:52 |
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