Wednesday, 2011-11-30

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arrrghhhstinebd, so is there any reason why hyc's dmesg magic didn't make it in?  did he ever request it?01:06
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14990181&postcount=1701:06
arrrghhhi know how you love it when i just point at binaries :D01:06
arrrghhhat any rate, seems like it would really help with troubleshooting, if everyone was running this dmesg.01:06
arrrghhhin fact, this confuses me as to where to replace the dmesg binary01:09
arrrghhhi know in /bin, but in the rootfs or system image?  they both seem to just link to other places.01:10
rpierce99if it was in the system image wouldn't it be /system/bin?01:16
rpierce99i mean unless bin/dmesg is a symlink to /system/bin/dmesg01:16
arrrghhhwell in the rootfs it looked like a symlink to busybox01:16
arrrghhhand in the system image it looked like a symlink to toolbox01:17
rpierce99run which dmesg01:17
rpierce99then ls -l that one01:17
arrrghhhon the phone?01:17
rpierce99or via adb01:18
rpierce99?01:18
arrrghhhi did01:18
arrrghhhjust shows up as /bin/dmesg01:18
arrrghhhoh well01:18
arrrghhhi push'd hyc's to this setup01:18
rpierce99so /bin/dmesg is the one thats running, which is linked to what01:18
arrrghhhnot sure where i pushed it lol01:18
rpierce99busybox i guess01:18
arrrghhhoh well01:18
rpierce99so you'd either have to put one in a location that is earlier in the path than bin01:19
arrrghhhjust wanting to get this dmesg in every build01:19
arrrghhhwhether it's rootfs or system...01:19
arrrghhht'would be nice01:19
arrrghhhlooks SO much better01:20
arrrghhhpastebin.com/ak2mvbQu01:20
arrrghhhholy date/timestamps!01:20
rpierce99 /bin is the first entry in the path01:21
rpierce99so that's always going to be the one thats run01:21
arrrghhhyea01:22
rpierce99i think you'd have to kill that symlink in rootfs and replace it with a real binary01:22
arrrghhhhrm01:22
arrrghhhi guess that's what i effectively did01:22
arrrghhhremount / rw, rm /bin/dmesg, adb push dmesg01:22
arrrghhhoO forgot to remount ro01:23
arrrghhhoh well, cya.01:23
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sykosoftWisTilt2, how long do you need a rhod400 for? I have one without service, would that suffice? You can hold on to it for a few months, but I would like it back eventually (it's a spare)01:51
rpierce99wrong room01:53
sykosoftyep...man01:53
sykosoftjust accidentally typed in xdanroid for the channel01:53
sykosoft*sigh*01:53
sykosoftThanks for letting me know (wasn't even paying attention)01:54
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crypticmofohola10:01
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crypticmofowhats new10:55
arrrghhhdo you have a question...?10:57
crypticmofonope10:57
crypticmofosaying hi10:57
rpierce99he asked a question, lol10:57
crypticmofoso my wife saw android on her tp2 yesterday well her backup phone that im using10:58
crypticmofoshe was like wtf10:58
crypticmofoi was like yea touch it .. its not slow10:58
rpierce99So my wife saw.... she was like wtf... i was like touch it ...10:59
crypticmofolol10:59
arrrghhhtouche11:03
arrrghhhTOUCH IT11:03
arrrghhhanyhoo, biopsy tiem.11:03
arrrghhhw00t11:03
detulemy wife saw me (trying to) play angry birds and she felt so bad for me....and her pity made me feel like i am crazy11:10
rpierce99that sounds more like mine11:11
jonprylol11:11
jonprydetule, you know about make ARCH=arm menuconfig ?11:13
detulei do now11:13
jonpryic11:13
detulewhen i build first i do make ARCH=arm msm_defconfig11:13
detulei guess it makes sense when firing up menuconfig to specify the ARCH11:14
detulethat would explain a few things11:14
detuleanyways jonpry i see CA has 3.0 msm tree11:14
detulewhen patching evdev and sdio in 3.1 you think it makes sense to bring over some files from there?11:14
jonpryevdev is trivial. switch the time source used for event time, and add a short wakelock11:15
detuleok, sdio looks more complicated11:15
jonprysdio is mostly stuff from broadcom11:16
detuleand the ca stuff has all the embedded business already there11:16
jonpryjust make sure it is the same one. there is like 3 different ways to deal with the problem atm. which is why none of it is mainlined11:16
detulealright11:17
detuleoh running msm_defconfig through make ARCH=arm menuconfig , the output looks much much more reasonable than just make menuconfig, in fact it looks to be currently in good shape apart from couple of EXT4 dependencies that I introduced when I enabled ext4 support11:31
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emweyou guys discovering menuconfig, eh? ;)11:34
detulei am11:35
emwewtf?! <6>[    2.960174] io scheduler cfq registered (default)11:39
rpierce99someone was asking about that yesterday11:39
emweyeah, read it. perhaps he'll show up again.11:41
emwemust have screwed my .config and not reconfigured after some tetsing... back to deadline.11:42
detulejonpry, clean msm_defconfig https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod/commit/cbf844ed6b077807f7cadada668a0c94680a081111:48
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crypticmofook12:33
crypticmofoso i have a working xdandroid / android on my tp212:33
crypticmofolooking for apps now .. any good recommendations .. or do i just stick with http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=49112:33
arrrghhhapps for what12:37
arrrghhhthat section would be apps for winmo...12:37
crypticmofojust apps .. exporer apps / game apps12:37
crypticmofoaw12:37
arrrghhhastro12:37
arrrghhhfor file explorer12:37
crypticmofoso im assuming just do android apps correct ?12:37
arrrghhhi don't play games.  labyrinth lite and words with friends is about it12:37
arrrghhhi don't know what you mean12:37
helicopter88fruit slice is fun12:37
crypticmofoso that apps section is only for winmo correct ?12:38
arrrghhhffs12:38
arrrghhhyes12:38
arrrghhhthe phone is winmo12:38
arrrghhhso that section is for winmo.12:38
crypticmofok12:39
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emwehow about android market and be done?! you can browse it even on market.android.com and remoetly install on your device when logging in with your google account you also setup on your device.12:45
arrrghhhthat's crazy talk emwe12:46
crypticmofoanyone on  **Complete GingerBread Bundle!!** ?12:47
crypticmofoif so how is it12:47
arrrghhhold12:47
arrrghhhoutdated12:47
crypticmofooh12:47
arrrghhhstick to FroYo until there's an update.12:47
crypticmofoits the second link on the andorid fourms12:47
arrrghhhso12:47
arrrghhhit's a sticky12:47
crypticmofok12:47
arrrghhh...12:47
emwearrrghhh: huh? guess how i install apps... new market app sucks so much...12:47
crypticmofojust looking for stuff im missing12:48
crypticmofoor things not on my device that should be12:48
arrrghhhemwe, i'm teasing.  not sure how you say that in german.  shoddenfroid?12:48
arrrghhhi can't even butcher german properly.12:48
arrrghhhcrypticmofo, that's ridiculous.  "things not on my device that should be" <---- everyone will have a different opinion here.12:48
emweschadenfreude? but teasing is something like stenkern/ärgern.12:48
arrrghhhlmao12:48
arrrghhhemwe, you're awesome.12:49
emwefeeling teased again :P12:49
arrrghhhnah, you are.  bwhahaha12:50
emwedid i meantion that this tpa2016d2 is driving me nuts? i can't get it right ...12:51
emweit's the automatic gain control, i am sure12:51
emwebecause it doesn't happen when you play music over speaker...12:51
emweand it always resets if you wait long enough between presses so the chip powers down and comes up with stock config again12:52
emweneed to figure some less aggressive agc setup for the chip with the luckily publicaly available docs12:52
arrrghhhweird12:53
crypticmofodam arrrghhh your all over those fourms12:54
emwei don't recall to what dB value it currently will set the gain to. from the behaviour it sounds like max, which is +30dB12:54
emwerofl12:54
arrrghhhcrypticmofo, i have no life12:54
crypticmofowtf ubuntu13:00
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arrrghhhwtfbuntu13:17
arrrghhhmy favorite distro13:17
jonpryi'm switching to debian13:21
arrrghhhheh13:22
jonpryi fail to see what ubuntu offers anymore. just get delayed updates and be forced to use some horrible desktop13:23
arrrghhhyea, debian is a good option13:24
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Achillhow to update android 2.0.1 to 2.2 ?13:45
Achillcopy all files in haret.exe folder ?13:45
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arrrghhhAchill, 2.0.1!?!13:49
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arrrghhhi would just start over at that point13:49
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Achillyes i download 2.01 cab file13:49
Achilland know i want 2.213:49
Achillthe last version13:50
helicopter88Achill,2.0.1?13:50
Achillyesssssssss13:50
helicopter88that has already more than a year13:50
helicopter88how have you found that?13:50
Achillhttp://www.filecrop.com/34176516/index.html13:50
Achillfrom here13:50
helicopter88what phone do you have?13:50
arrrghhhAchill, just start fresh with 2.2.213:51
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=117105213:51
Achillhtc touch diamond p370013:51
arrrghhhoh diam13:51
arrrghhhi'm sorry13:51
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=117107013:51
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Achillnice i download full bandle13:52
Achillnow ?13:52
helicopter88read13:52
Achilldelete the last haret and copy ?13:52
helicopter88read13:52
arrrghhhlol13:53
arrrghhhAchill, like i said start fresh13:53
arrrghhhformat your card, read that guide, profit13:53
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Achillhow much take to load ?14:16
Achillin first time14:16
Achillat*14:16
helicopter88max 10 mins14:16
Achillhuh i wait 20 minutes at least14:17
Achill:/14:17
helicopter88Where're you stuck?14:17
arrrghhhdid you see the boot animation?14:17
arrrghhhor just endless flying text14:17
Achilli click in haret.exe and now in my mobile's screen show xdandroid animation14:17
Achillyes boot animation14:17
arrrghhhhrm14:18
arrrghhhthat sounds good14:18
arrrghhhyou're sure it's been 20 minutes?14:18
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Achillyeap14:18
arrrghhhor does it just feel like 2014:18
Achillno im sure14:18
Achill:P14:18
Achilllook your last comment to me14:18
Achillis 20:5314:18
Achilli wait a little bit more14:18
arrrghhhwell i don't know when you clicked haret.14:19
Achillmany times screen lags14:20
Achillhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171070&page=214:21
Achillhere you write 30 minutes14:21
arrrghhhuhm14:21
arrrghhhme?14:21
arrrghhhyou want to actually look before you speak?14:21
arrrghhhanyhoo, i guess reboot and try again.14:21
Achillok14:22
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Achill21:2514:26
Achillnow starts load14:26
Achillok i restart now14:42
Achillcant wait anymore14:43
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detulei am a fan of timestamped dmesg15:04
Tandyman100Any NAND testing to be done on a Rhod210?15:12
sytheznhelicopter88, i've installed the java6_u29 jdk and jre's but what do i do about the javac thing?15:14
helicopter88it is installed by jdk15:14
Achillhelicopter88 must cable in when run fist time haret ?15:18
helicopter88Achill: Never did that15:18
helicopter88and not sure where have you read about it..15:19
helicopter88Achill: I've always done whatever the arrrghhh-made guide said15:21
helicopter88always succeded in booting15:22
sytheznwell...make's asking about javac15:22
helicopter88that's weird15:22
helicopter88jdk installed it here15:22
sytheznhmmm... how'd you install it?15:23
helicopter88My memory is short15:23
helicopter88i can't remember15:23
sytheznlol no worries15:23
sytheznworked it out15:23
sythezni did a manual install15:23
sytheznhad to set path to my install dir /bin15:24
helicopter88type javac --version (if i remember right)15:25
helicopter88to check if it is 6_u2915:25
sytheznshould be15:26
sythezni pointed it to my 6_u29 dir15:26
helicopter88checking is always better15:26
sytheznwe'll see now if it fixes the error 41 thingy15:26
sytheznyeah...15:26
sytheznhow do i permanently set my paht var?15:27
sythezn*path even15:28
rpierce99lmgtfy15:28
sythezn:?15:28
helicopter88put it in .bashrc?15:28
sytheznah15:29
rpierce99T,IGIFY http://www.java.com/en/download/help/path.xml15:29
sytheznnvm, but thanks rpierce9915:30
sytheznI added it to path lol, I just wanted to not have to add it every time15:31
rpierce99yes, the link tells you how to do that15:31
helicopter88export PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin15:32
helicopter88at the end of .bashrc and you're done15:32
detuleexport PATH=/usr/local/jdk1.6.0/bin:$PATH15:32
helicopter88yeah,i always forget the :$PATH15:32
helicopter88thanks detule15:32
rpierce99kind of important :)15:32
sytheznlol thanks15:33
helicopter88that's why it always fail :)15:33
detuleyou shouldn't export the path to jdk btw15:33
sytheznwhy not?15:34
detule/usr/java/default/bin is what you should have in there15:34
detuleand then use alternatives to change what default is symlinked to15:34
sytheznah, ty15:35
sythezn/usr/java doesn't exist on my system15:36
detulethat's because you haven't used alternatives yet, "man" is your friend15:37
sytheznyeah i have...15:37
sytheznsudo update-alternatives --install {path to java}15:38
detuleafk15:38
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sytheznthanks for the help guys. build seems to be running okay now :D15:46
Achillone problem in call15:50
Achillwhen i call my screen goes black15:50
Achilland i cant close the call15:50
helicopter88sythezn: error 41 is always near the corner :)15:50
sythezni are beginning two sea this15:58
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arrrghhhAchill, i answered your post16:45
arrrghhhif the call is still going, the phone is OK.16:45
Achillbut how can i cancel one call16:46
arrrghhhwake the phone16:46
arrrghhhpower button16:46
arrrghhhdoes the RAPH have a prox sensor?16:48
arrrghhhit's certainly not enabled in Android16:48
arrrghhhwho knows if it'll ever be...16:48
arrrghhhDIAM, sorry.  same diff, less RAM :P16:48
Achillarrrghhh16:56
Achillnot working16:56
Achillsomething goes wrong16:56
Achilli press all buttons16:57
Achillnothing, still black screen16:57
arrrghhhdude16:58
arrrghhhPATIENCE16:58
arrrghhhis a virtue with this project16:58
arrrghhhhit the power button16:58
arrrghhhand wait16:58
arrrghhhi'm telling you, if the phone call is still up the phone isn't dead.16:58
jonpryprobably an old kernel16:58
jonpryand bild16:59
arrrghhhcould be16:59
arrrghhhhe's on DIAM16:59
arrrghhhwhich is an atrocity16:59
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jonpryoh16:59
arrrghhhhe's on 7.116:59
arrrghhhkernel's not ancient16:59
jonprynot sure if anyone has tested on diam in years16:59
arrrghhhlol16:59
arrrghhhthat's part of the problem16:59
arrrghhhno DIAM users left.16:59
arrrghhhcertainly no devs left with DIAM17:00
arrrghhhCDMA users are SOL in fact, they can't get data anymore with hyc's new RIL17:00
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detulei think if we are to stick with IDLE there are probably many wakelocks that need to be changed from SUSPEND17:04
jonpryi think my dog has anti bulimia17:04
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jonprythrows up just so it can eat it again17:05
detulemy dog has been known to do something similar, though don't think she throws up on purpose17:05
jonpryidle wakelocks shouldn't be necessary ever in theory17:06
jonpryour pm may be a long way from realizing that17:07
hyci could probably do a merge of the current ril with the original fakegsm code17:08
hycbut no way to test it...17:08
detulepunching out later folks17:09
hycand also if those old radios are as primitive as it seems, won't support cell location17:09
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arrrghhhhyc, i think data w/no cell location would be better than no data and no cell loc..17:34
arrrghhhbut there really aren't many users left with CDMA RAPH/DIAM's17:41
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hycyah, so kinda pointless18:35
hyclooks like I will be getting a Droid4 when they come out next week18:35
arrrghhhwell considering since you worked with me to get the RAPH working on the radio at all, hardly anyone has complained about no data18:36
arrrghhhlol18:36
arrrghhhaw...18:36
arrrghhhi guess it was only a matter of time18:36
arrrghhhyour RHOD was dying18:36
hycyeah18:36
hycI could scrounge another one on eBay but would rather have modern hardware :P18:36
arrrghhhcan't say i blame you.18:37
arrrghhhjust makes me sad.18:37
arrrghhhis the D4 going to be offered on TMO?18:37
hycdunno. going with VZ18:37
hycthe rest of my company is already on VZ, has been for years.18:37
arrrghhhoO18:37
arrrghhhi see18:37
hycI went rogue in 2008 to gtet the G1 :P18:38
arrrghhhyea, we're VZ as a company18:38
arrrghhhhahaha18:38
arrrghhhwe don't support Android devices tho18:38
arrrghhhiOS and BB's only... bleh.18:38
hycyeah, bleah18:38
arrrghhhso i just took the dumbphone they gave me.18:38
arrrghhhoh well.  i'm sure you'll enjoy the d418:39
arrrghhhkb doesn't look quite as good as the tp2, but it should be a good performer.18:39
hycas long as I can get it SIM unlocked18:39
hycyeah, the D3 keyboard actually looks better to me18:39
hycbut will find out when it's in-hand18:39
arrrghhhthe only reason i fault the d1/2/3/4 kb18:41
arrrghhhis the soft keys (mushy feedback)18:41
arrrghhhand they're all in a straight line18:41
hycah18:41
hycD3 looked staggered18:41
hycD2 was staggered, only D1 got that wrong18:41
arrrghhhthe staggered approach is much better IMHO.  but a kb is a kb, and they're hard to come by on Android devices.18:41
arrrghhhorly...18:41
* arrrghhh looks for pics18:41
arrrghhhnot staggered on the 318:42
arrrghhhhttp://www.technobuffalo.com/files/2011/05/droid-3-keyboard.jpg18:42
arrrghhhreally tho, it doesn't look awful18:42
hychmmm18:42
arrrghhhthe RAPH i used to have didn't have a staggered kb.  it was good, just not as good as the TP2 :P18:42
hycthe qwerty row is slightly offset from the asdf row18:42
arrrghhhi don't get why HTC can make such a great kb, then completely forget they ever designed it.18:42
hyclol18:43
arrrghhhsurprising about the d418:43
arrrghhhnot much concrete info, and it's supposed to launch in a week18:44
hycbasically a droid razr with kb18:44
arrrghhhyea18:44
hycwhich sounds fine to me since razr is their high end18:44
arrrghhhkb does look nice18:44
arrrghhhhttp://timenerdworld.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/droid4.jpg?w=600&h=400&crop=118:44
hycyeah18:44
hycsame layout as D3 but different backlighting18:45
arrrghhhyup18:46
arrrghhhi was trying to see if it was going to be global like the d318:46
arrrghhhi couldn't find info about that18:46
hycyeah, it's in their FCC certification docs18:46
arrrghhhah18:47
arrrghhhlol, ofc you looked up those :P18:47
hycGSM/WCDMA supported, disabled in firmware18:47
hycheh18:47
arrrghhhinteresting18:47
hycI wanted to know :P18:47
arrrghhhdid the d3 have an unlocked SIM slot?18:47
arrrghhhor unlockable18:47
hycit was unlockable18:47
arrrghhhnice18:47
arrrghhhAFAIK vz is pretty good about that18:47
arrrghhhusually you can call 'em up and they'll give you the code18:47
hycD2 was probably best huh http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/28/droid-2-keyboard-makes-an-appearance/18:48
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hycoh wait, no, 4 row18:48
arrrghhhno dude18:48
arrrghhhthat kb was really mushy18:48
arrrghhhkeys aren't clearly defined18:48
hycah, but staggered layout18:49
arrrghhhd3 has a WAY better kb.18:49
arrrghhhodd.  it's almost like the raph's kb.18:49
arrrghhhmy buddy has a D218:49
arrrghhhwasn't a big fan of the KB18:49
arrrghhhgood phone tho18:49
d3tul3hey jonpry as usual i have a questio18:50
d3tul3i was wondering why this guy is commented out https://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod/blobs/htc-msm-2.6.39/drivers/mmc/host/msm_sdcc.c#line140618:50
d3tul3or if it's irrelevant and the card always tests out as type_sdio18:52
jonpryrootfs is funky w/ mmc_suspend18:54
d3tul3yeah i have no idea why it would work, but that call is in both .27 and .3518:54
jonpryi don't entirely understand why linux is unable to resume mmc18:54
jonprybut its much easier if you just don't do it. that function ends up marking the card as removed18:55
d3tul3no power leaks?18:55
jonprywell none that we can fix18:56
jonpryif you power down the card, then it really does need to be reidentified18:56
d3tul3how does it work in .35?18:56
jonprydunno18:57
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* rpierce99 is getting really tired of people saying "root" and meaning "install alternate system image"20:00
arrrghhhwat20:03
rpierce99facebook, et al20:09
arrrghhhodd20:09
arrrghhhi don't think i've ever seen anyone say that...20:09
rpierce99everyone is doing it, it's annoying20:09
rpierce99"my phone is slow I think its time to root it"20:09
arrrghhhthis old lady just got hired and i'm training her20:09
rpierce99me: rooting it doesn't make it faster20:09
arrrghhhshe JUST got her first android phone20:09
rpierce99"i meant installing another ROM"20:09
rpierce99headdesk20:10
arrrghhhi just let her think my phone runs android.  not worth explaining.20:10
arrrghhhi was showing her some of our internal website20:10
arrrghhhs*20:10
arrrghhhand she was getting lost clicking around winxp...20:10
arrrghhhlike she couldn't figure out how the tabs worked on IE20:10
arrrghhhand kept opening new windows20:10
arrrghhhi wanted to stab myself in the face20:10
rpierce99and what job did you all feel she was qualified for?20:10
arrrghhhor her, then me.  not sure.20:10
arrrghhhi have no idea20:11
arrrghhhshe used to work at level320:11
arrrghhhso in theory she knows how to troubleshoot circuits20:11
arrrghhhin practice, i don't know.20:11
arrrghhhtoday was her 2nd day20:11
arrrghhhwow, i actually got a call that i was able to answer in time20:13
arrrghhhmic didn't work till i flipped the speakerphone on/off lol20:13
arrrghhhfunny i never really had that problem until i started messing with acoustic builds20:14
arrrghhhoh well20:14
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arrrghhhjonpry, using a different client?20:45
jonpryno i just don't think it ever worked quite right20:46
arrrghhhhrm.  it used to20:46
arrrghhhif you're on xchat put your password in the server password box20:46
arrrghhhNOT the nickserv password box20:46
arrrghhhtrust me ;)20:46
jonpryi put it in both20:47
arrrghhhhrm20:47
arrrghhhperhaps remove it from the nickserv password box...?20:47
arrrghhhthat's odd20:47
arrrghhhi only have it in the server password box.20:47
arrrghhhit used to work, i remember when you were first setting that up.20:47
jonprytrouble is that i somehow turned off the menubar in xchat20:48
jonpryso i dunno how to do anything20:48
arrrghhhbwhahaha20:48
arrrghhhright click on the freenode tree on the left20:48
arrrghhhi think there's settings thar20:48
arrrghhher20:48
arrrghhhactually you can just right click in the window20:49
arrrghhhsettings -> preferences20:49
jonprythen what :)20:49
jonpryview->menu bar20:50
arrrghhher20:50
arrrghhhsorry, i'm retarded20:50
arrrghhhctrl-s20:50
arrrghhhedit the network you use to connect with20:50
jonpryone sec20:51
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arrrghhhboom20:52
jonprywell i think that was not a good test20:52
arrrghhhlol20:52
arrrghhhdid you quit the client?20:52
arrrghhhg2g, sorry20:52
jonpryit didn't auto enter any rooms20:52
jonprycauses i forced the disconnect maybe20:52
jonpryer20:52
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