Monday, 2011-11-14

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austeregrimDoes anyone have a form letter to request source code from OEMs?10:36
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Tandyman100arrrghhh, I have a quick idea for you:14:00
Tandyman100Post a video showing you booting and running OMFGB on your Touch Pro 2, just to give people a taste of what it’s like. I’ve seen no videos of NAND android running on a TP2 on youtube, and I, for one, am curious (what else is new?).14:00
arrrghhhTandyman100, there's videos14:01
arrrghhhbut who cares14:01
arrrghhhevidently you do14:01
arrrghhhso go search for the videos, lol14:01
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* Tandyman100 searches14:20
Tandyman100http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zaCKacpr6M14:22
Tandyman100what the hell am I looking at?14:22
Tandyman100A Sprint Touch Pro with a SIM card?!14:23
Tandyman100Wow, it’s running pretty fast on there14:25
Tandyman100but I call shenanigains14:25
arrrghhhUIM14:27
arrrghhhit's chinese14:27
arrrghhhand that's ancient14:27
arrrghhhnot our stuff either14:27
Tandyman100Obviously.14:27
Tandyman100I’m watching a video of one of tiad8’s14:27
arrrghhhlol14:28
Tandyman100Sense NAND14:28
Tandyman100In the background >he uses Ubuntu on a CRT monitor!14:28
arrrghhh-_-14:29
Tandyman100Proof Tiad8 is a noob at computers.14:29
Tandyman100Well, further proof.14:29
* Tandyman100 tries to find an xdandroid nand build14:29
Tandyman100If my understanding of NAND builds is correct, you use the RUU to flash something, then you use that to flash a recovery, then you use the recovery to flash the ROM itself, right?14:31
Tandyman100I haven’t actually read any instructions lately, this is just from memory >_>14:31
helicopter88yeah14:32
Tandyman100Well, I guess that G1 wasn’t totally useless; I learned how to use fastboot, adb, what recovery is, etc.14:35
Tandyman100so I’m ready for some Rhod210 testing if anyone wants me to.14:35
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Tandyman100Well this looks simple enough. Flash recovery, then flash ROM and then gapps just like any other Android ROM14:37
Tandyman100Looks like Tiad8 made a GSM Android ROM. Interesting.14:37
Tandyman100Is there much of a chance of bricking by doing this stuff?14:37
Tandyman100No matter what I can still get back to the tricolor screen, right?14:37
rpierce99unless tiad8 screwed something up, do you trust him with your phone?14:43
Tandyman100nope.avi14:45
Tandyman100But he made the ROM, not the recovery, right?14:45
Tandyman100Touch Pro 2 boot: “Touch Pro2” screen, can get into tricolor screen. Then recovery. Then it boots the ROM.14:46
Tandyman100Right?14:46
arrrghhhdude14:47
arrrghhhwait for ACL please.14:47
Tandyman100ACL?14:47
arrrghhhhe said he was going to release something soon14:47
arrrghhhFFS14:47
Tandyman100Ah.14:47
arrrghhhthe guy doing NAND14:47
Tandyman100I am not a clever man.14:47
arrrghhhbasically the only guy doing NAND14:47
arrrghhhno, no you're not.14:47
Tandyman100Oh, wow.14:47
hyclol14:47
Tandyman100That guy needs an award.14:47
arrrghhhhyc, pops in to laugh at us14:48
arrrghhhwhat's up dude14:48
rpierce99if you were him, wouldn't you?14:48
arrrghhhwell yea14:48
arrrghhhi'm not him and i do14:48
arrrghhh:D14:48
Tandyman100lol14:49
rpierce99Skyrim came out on Friday and I have almost 30 hours in it so far, someone save me.14:49
detulei had to google that14:50
arrrghhhhahaha14:52
arrrghhhmany people have lost a lot of time on skyrim.14:52
stinebdarrrghhh: i'm going to need you to test a build for me14:53
arrrghhhsure14:53
stinebdmy rhod won't boot14:53
stinebdand i can't find my other one14:53
arrrghhhheh14:55
arrrghhhnew GB build?14:55
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mgross029arrrghhh, shhh...  It's a super secret build :p15:01
helicopter88ICS maybe?15:02
stinebd sorry i'm working15:02
stinebdit's new gingerbread yes15:02
helicopter88oh :(15:02
stinebdi'm getting bits of the ics source but not enough to do a port yet15:03
arrrghhhICS sounds cool15:03
arrrghhhnot sure with everything requiring hw2d15:03
arrrghhhif it'll work so well15:03
stinebdi want to see framework so that i can tell if it'll work for us15:03
arrrghhhbut hey, worth a shot15:03
arrrghhhyea15:03
Tandyman100Yeah, ICS would be awesome.15:06
Tandyman100They said it will work on all devices running GB...15:06
arrrghhhthey lied15:06
arrrghhhthe Nexus 1 isn't getting it.15:06
Tandyman100LIES!15:06
Tandyman100heh15:06
arrrghhhuhm.15:06
arrrghhhthey said "in theory any device running Gingerbread will be capable of running ICS"15:06
arrrghhhthat was in no way a statement to be taken that "every single GB device will get an official ICS update"15:07
Tandyman100Oh, in theory.15:07
Tandyman100I see.15:07
Tandyman100http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7N1tr_WBs15:07
arrrghhhyea15:07
Tandyman100this is so tempting15:07
Tandyman100even if it is tiad815:07
Tandyman100lookit how smooth it is on there O_O15:07
arrrghhhstinebd, can we just ban Tandyman100 ?15:07
arrrghhhhe's just swiping around the screen lol15:07
arrrghhhi can do that, woooo fast.... LOL15:07
Tandyman100Smoother swiping than FRX7.1 on my Rhod21015:08
* Tandyman100 shrugs15:08
arrrghhhnot here15:08
arrrghhhif you have NOTHING installed15:08
helicopter88i feel that someone is going to be muted soon :)15:08
arrrghhhand you swipe around the screens15:08
arrrghhhit's fast.15:08
arrrghhhthat's retarded.15:08
hycdepends on the launcher.apk too15:08
hycI seem to recall that zeam was pretty fast15:09
arrrghhhyea15:09
arrrghhhi like ADW15:09
arrrghhhbut almost any launcher separate of the stock one is better, lol.15:09
Tandyman100Zeam and LauncherPro are seriously speedy.15:09
mgross029Zeam is pretty good, but so far GoLauncher seems a bit better for me anyway15:09
Tandyman100arrrghhh: this is a fresh install. It’s been booted for about an hour so far. Perhaps I should restart.15:10
arrrghhhZeam is recommended by tiad8, so i can't in good conscious use it.15:10
Tandyman100hah15:10
Tandyman100That just ruined Zeam for me. Damn.15:10
arrrghhhlol15:11
Tandyman100I like LauncherPro because it has a decent amount of themeability. Any old .png(?) can be used as a dock background or icon and such.15:11
stinebd[15:08:07] <Tandyman100> Smoother swiping than FRX7.1 on my Rhod21015:17
stinebdit's the launcher15:17
stinebdLauncher2 is notoriously slow15:18
stinebdit's not a problem to speed it up, but i haven't put time into it because it's not high priority15:18
Tandyman100Launcher2? Is that the default in FRX7.1? I’ve switched over to LauncherPro. It’s slightly faster, but not much.15:20
Tandyman100LauncherPro managed to be fast on Froyo on my HTC G1 (now bricked because of a deathspl misshap)15:20
arrrghhhit's the default launcher in android dude15:21
arrrghhhlauncher2 = stock launcher15:21
arrrghhhLP is bloated IMHO15:21
arrrghhhi got rid of it a while back.15:21
stinebdi use adw on my atrix15:21
stinebdgood blend of speed and features15:22
arrrghhhyup15:22
arrrghhhi <3 ADW15:22
Tandyman100Ok. I’m just basing my launcher use based off of my experience on my G1 :15:22
Tandyman100:P15:22
stinebdhonestly if you could resize widgets on launcher2 i'd use that anyway15:22
* Tandyman100 apt-get’s ADW15:22
Tandyman100...15:22
stinebdspeed isn't an issue for me in any case15:22
Tandyman100Excuse me while I shoot myself.15:22
Tandyman100apt-getting on Android. That’d be interesting.15:22
arrrghhhstinebd, ban?15:23
stinebdarrrghhh: sorry i won't mention atrix anymore15:23
Tandyman100arrrghhh: Oh, come on. I’m still goot for a laugh.15:23
arrrghhhwell that too15:23
Tandyman100good*15:23
arrrghhhyou're goot for nothing15:23
Tandyman100I’m bad for spelling, it seems...15:23
arrrghhhi get all my facepalm jollies from tiad8.com15:23
Tandyman100heh15:23
arrrghhhi still get a few from neopeek.com and their users (sorry helicopter88)15:24
helicopter88arrrghhh,there's nothing to be sorry :)15:24
arrrghhhlike your users creating THE FASTESTESETESETSETSETSET BUILD EVAR1!!!!@1211@!15:24
arrrghhhgood times15:24
stinebdarrrghhh: what do you think of the transformer prime?15:24
Tandyman100haha15:24
arrrghhhseems like it'll be a beast15:25
arrrghhhquad core SoC... i guess we'll see how the battery life is.15:25
helicopter88arrrghhh,too bad i would appear as a bad mod if i trash 'em all :)15:25
stinebd16 hours with the dock15:25
stinebdor 18 or something15:26
arrrghhhi guess on a tablet battery life isn't as important15:26
helicopter88*too bad that i would15:26
arrrghhhdamn15:26
stinebdsome even number over 1415:26
Tandyman100arrrghhh: battery life not as important on a tablet? In what way?15:26
stinebdbattery life is actually better than tegra2 because the cores shut down independently and automatically15:27
stinebdand it has a 5th low power core for background processing15:27
Tandyman1005 core in a tablet? I turn around for two months and this is what happens? Geez. That’s pretty insane.15:27
arrrghhhyea, i heard about that 5th core15:27
stinebdlike syncing mail with the display off or something15:27
arrrghhhTandyman100, it's not a phone -_-15:27
stinebdit'll be in phones soon enough15:27
arrrghhhyup15:27
stinebdit's like the perfect application15:27
arrrghhhshould be sa-weet15:27
Tandyman100I bet angry birds still won’t run fast on it15:28
* Tandyman100 rusn15:28
arrrghhhnow if they only release some f-ing hardware with a good keyboard.15:28
Tandyman100runs*15:28
Tandyman100agreed^15:28
arrrghhhTandyman100, maybe if you used hardware newer than 200715:28
arrrghhhAngry Birds is fine on my gf's optimus15:28
arrrghhhand that hardware is paltry15:28
Tandyman100I was mostly joking about the insanely high requirements for Angry Birds.15:28
stinebdrelatedly, i'm estimating that 99% of my time on the prime will be keyboarded15:28
arrrghhh600mhz, 256mb ram.  adreno205 if i'm not mistaken.15:28
Tandyman100A 2d game that runs unusably slow, when Fruit ninja, which is 3d, runs perfectly on the same hardware.15:28
arrrghhhstinebd, getting the prime then?15:29
arrrghhhTandyman100, OpenGL requirements.15:29
Tandyman100oooohhh.15:29
arrrghhhnot about 2d vs. 3d AFAIK15:29
Tandyman100<-tard15:29
stinebdarrrghhh: planning on it15:30
stinebddepends on my money situation15:30
arrrghhhyea15:30
stinebdif i can fit it in with the new japan trip i'm planning, i'll do it15:30
arrrghhhmoney has been damned tight for me lately.  stupid new laptop.15:30
arrrghhhgoing to japan again?15:30
stinebdespecially if it ends up in best buy where i can pay no interest for like 18 years15:30
arrrghhhlol15:30
stinebdyeah my mother wants me to take her there15:31
stinebdshe's never been outside of north america though15:31
arrrghhhwow15:31
stinebdshe's getting into all the crazy game shows i found while i was over there15:32
stinebdif you people ever wonder why i'm batshit insane, look no further than parenting15:32
arrrghhhlmao15:33
arrrghhhthe game shows in japan seem utterly insane15:33
arrrghhhare you finding them here to watch?  lol15:33
stinebdno i got some no-region dvds from akihabara15:33
stinebdoriginals of stuff like takeshi's castle and sasuke/kunoichi15:34
stinebdtakeshi's castle being the source material for mxc from spike15:34
stinebdand sasuke is ninja warrior on g4tv15:34
stinebdtakeshi's castle is hilarious even without the mxc rewrites15:35
helicopter88takeshi castle is awesome15:35
arrrghhhah15:35
arrrghhhyea, i've seen mxc15:35
arrrghhhi figured they just took footage and dubbed it.  kinda obvious, lol15:35
stinebdsasuke is more serious but they're 3 hours long and fun to watch anyway15:36
stinebdthey have some weird contestants too15:36
Tandyman100Wow, you’re right. ADW is stupid-fast.15:36
hycyeah, I use ADW on my rhod and my G115:40
arrrghhhTandyman100, do you think we just make this stuff up?  :P15:42
stinebdi do mostly15:42
arrrghhhwell15:42
arrrghhhother than stinebd15:42
austeregrimmake what up?15:42
arrrghhhstuff things15:43
austeregrimelusive bear is elusive15:43
austeregrimstomach is giving me a low battery warning.. damn.15:43
Tandyman100arrrghhh: yes.15:44
Tandyman100:P15:44
stinebdyou probably shouldn't be eating batteries15:46
Tandyman100bahaha what?15:46
arrrghhh<austeregrim> stomach is giving me a low battery warning.. damn.15:46
Tandyman100I know15:46
arrrghhhyou're not that slow are you?  :P15:46
Tandyman100It was an incredulous “what?”15:47
Tandyman100...I really hope I spelled that right.15:47
arrrghhhthere's these spell checker things15:48
arrrghhhthey work wonders15:48
austeregrimWell I was only refering to the sound made15:48
Tandyman100heh15:48
austeregrimI need to figure out this 10 pin connector on this stupid device... see if I can't find a cable that I can wire up to a breadboard15:49
arrrghhhsounds dangerous15:50
austeregrimHSS10115:51
austeregrimby netgear15:51
austeregrimactually it's by icontrol15:51
austeregrimrebranded by netgear15:51
austeregrimi can get the pinouts.. but I need a 10pin cable15:51
austeregrimthen I need to figure out the method of getting to recovery15:53
austeregrimor fastboot15:53
austeregrimor hope nvflash is not locked... and get to it.15:54
Tandyman100Here’s something on-topic: Is anyone else having to press *really hard* on the screen to get taps to register in XDAndroid? It’s fine in Winmo...16:20
rpierce99i thought you said your screen was like bubbling16:22
rpierce99touch is fine for me16:22
Tandyman100Well, yeah. The touch screen is bubbling now, but I’ve always had this problem. I’m getting a new rhod210 soon, though. I guess then I’ll find out if it’s just me or not.16:27
Tandyman100Though now that I think about it, the bubbles have gone away. Weird.16:29
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NeoMatrixJRICS AOSP is coming already!17:19
stinebdyeah17:20
stinebdit's tagged on googlesource17:20
stinebdlots of objects still in progress so it's not all there yet17:20
NeoMatrixJRyeah.  saw that...but still.  I didn't think the AOSP would be out for a while yet!17:21
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arrrghhhthey said it would drop with the Galaxy Nexus17:23
stinebdapparently someone dropped a GN17:23
arrrghhhintentionally?17:25
stinebdno17:27
stinebdintentional drops are called tosses17:27
arrrghhhi see17:27
* stinebd checks the framework17:27
stinebdcmoooon legacy surfaceflinger17:28
arrrghhhhah17:28
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stinebdSweet a quassel client for Android17:56
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hycsigh. Samsung Captivate Glide. decent CPU and memory specs. lame 4-row keyboard.19:03
hyclame pentile screen.19:03
hycthese guys all just refuse to actually make a worthwhile device.19:03
arrrghhhhyc, i don't understand why19:28
arrrghhhunless it's just money?19:28
arrrghhhthey're worried it won't sell if they pack it with too much...?19:28
arrrghhhalthough htc... they haven't made a decent kb since the tp2, i dunno wtf is wrong with them.19:28
bzomaybe they can't get it thin enough with a 5 row?19:29
arrrghhhi'm fine with the profile of the tp219:29
arrrghhhi know a lot of other people want the thinnest phone possible19:29
arrrghhhso maybe that is part of the problem.  stupid people.19:29
bzothiness is a big selling point19:30
arrrghhhyea19:30
arrrghhhpeople do like thin.  which means, no kb.19:30
bzowould have thought they were past doing pentile on a wvga display19:30
arrrghhhmost people probably wouldn't notice its pentile.19:30
bzoarrrghhh: random question - is stapleton ghetto?19:36
arrrghhhlol19:36
arrrghhhhow do i answer that...19:36
arrrghhhit's pretty ghetto, outside of the multi-million dollar lofts/condo's they just puked all over that neighborhood.19:36
arrrghhhso there's a few nice streets, but outside of them... it's bad.19:36
bzomight of suspected that given it's sandwiched between commerce city and aurora19:37
arrrghhhi don't get it either.  there's this section of colorado blvd where it's RIDICULOUSLY nice neighborhood.  cross over past like 30th or 40th st... and it turns into a 3rd world country.19:37
bzolol19:37
arrrghhhbut denver's kinda like that.  it's weird.19:37
arrrghhhnorth denver is the same way... really nice 'diamond in the rough' kinda neighborhoods19:38
arrrghhhsurrounded by poverty.19:38
bzoyeah, I guess city neighborhoods change radically over a few blocks19:38
arrrghhhindeed19:38
arrrghhhi would vote no on stapleton tho19:38
arrrghhh(it's called gaypleton here lol)19:38
bzolol19:39
arrrghhhit's a pretty new hood.  the airport used to be thar.19:39
bzojust derogatorily or because it is the gay area?19:39
arrrghhhafter the airport left, it kinda turned into a wasteland19:39
arrrghhhwell there are a lot of flamers that live thar19:39
arrrghhhthey seem to like the fancy new developments.19:39
arrrghhhi guess i shouldn't say that19:40
arrrghhhi don't know why they gravitate towards that community19:40
bzoI am looking forward to getting out of this drafty 1920s house, but these new developments often seem too cookie cutter19:40
arrrghhhyea, that's the problem19:40
arrrghhha lot of the new developments are exactly that.  cookie cutter.19:40
arrrghhhit's MUCH cheaper for the developer that way...19:40
arrrghhhthey cram way more houses in than they used to19:41
arrrghhhbuild 4 floor plans over 400 homes19:41
arrrghhhand call it a day.  shitty.19:41
bzolol, if you didn't have the address, you wouldn't be able to find your house19:41
arrrghhhpretty much!19:41
arrrghhhbroomfield/lafayette/superior is nice19:41
arrrghhhthe houses don't seem too cookie-cutter, and most are pretty new.19:42
arrrghhhif you want to live closer to denver, arvada is a great.  kinda on the outskirts, but still close.19:42
bzohaha, I suppose we ought to stop polluting this channel with denver neighborhood talk19:42
arrrghhhin denver... you're going to run into a lot of those communities where it's really nice, then really ghetto.19:43
arrrghhhyea you should've just pm'd me :P19:43
Tandyman100<arrrghhh> i know a lot of other people want the thinnest phone possible20:01
Tandyman100This.20:01
arrrghhhdicks20:02
Tandyman100And I hate that mentality. IMO, the original touch Diamond is the identical size.20:02
arrrghhhideal?20:02
Tandyman100It fits so well in your hand...20:02
arrrghhhyou must mean ideal.20:02
Tandyman100erm, yeah20:02
Tandyman100stupid fingers.20:03
Tandyman100On the topic of bad keyboards, I agree. There hasn’t been a *great* keyboard since the TPII. The closest anyone’s come is the MyTouch 4G Slide, and it’s just 4 rows.20:03
arrrghhhyea, the keys look like they're spaced well on the MT4GS20:04
Tandyman100Yeah, and they’re large.20:06
Tandyman100I *thought* the Touch Pro’s keyboard was good, then I got my TPII...20:06
Tandyman100Now every mobile keyboard I use just reeks of fail and aids. And don’t get me started on onscreen keyboards. I’m decent with swype, but it takes me AGES to type something in on someone else’s phone that doesn’t have swype or a physical keyboard20:07
arrrghhhlol20:08
arrrghhhphysical kb ftw20:08
arrrghhhoh well, i'm out.20:10
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d3tul3hey bzo23:40
d3tul3i have a question for you23:40
bzowhat's up?23:41
d3tul3have you built the kernel this evening?23:42
d3tul3can you verify camera still works23:42
bzono23:42
bzodon't have time to mess with it tonight23:42
bzoseeing problems?23:42
d3tul3this is what i am seeing http://pastebin.com/f0abNRGE23:42
d3tul3(that's dmesg)23:42
d3tul3like some sort of a stupid pmem problem23:42
d3tul3now i am not sure if i broke something23:43
d3tul3or my tree that built from was polluted somehow23:43
bzothat was the same error I saw before the fix I committed23:43
bzohave you made clean since that patch?23:43
bzosince it is a header file, make won't automatically update the object files23:43
d3tul3tha you sir23:44
d3tul3s/tha/thank23:44
bzonp23:44
d3tul3fortunately the autobuild is up and i can test this really quickly23:46
d3tul3bzo just hit it with the autobuild23:56
d3tul3same error23:56
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