Thursday, 2011-11-03

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GluehenHi, all11:15
GluehenI'm about to install XDAndroid to DIAM100, but beacuse of incomplete working list don't know, what's with Wi-Fi, headset and and video acceleration, which are necessary11:32
GluehenWhere can I find it out?11:32
arrrghhhGluehen, wifi works11:33
arrrghhhvideo acceleration...?11:33
arrrghhh3d works11:33
arrrghhhgranted adreno130 is pretty lame11:34
arrrghhhso it doesn't "work well"11:34
GluehenEven YouTube?11:35
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arrrghhhwat11:35
arrrghhhyoutube works great for me11:35
arrrghhhno clue about a DIAM11:35
arrrghhhi don't have one.11:35
Gluehenarrrghhh, What's your cell?11:37
arrrghhhRHOD40011:37
Tandyman100I have a Sprint Diamond11:39
Tandyman100Youtube works fine on it11:40
Tandyman100I assume a Diam100 would be similar11:40
GluehenTandyman100, What about incoming/outcoming calls?11:41
arrrghhhwhat about them?  lol should work fine11:41
arrrghhhare you having an issue with these things?11:41
arrrghhhor are you just asking about every single possible feature?11:41
arrrghhhbecause if it's the latter, i suggest you quit asking questions and just try it.11:42
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skaFor some reason I can't see any sticky as mentioned on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167722 .. Do I need to register/login to see it?11:51
Gluehenarrrghhh, 'kay, I'll try, at least in user videos XDAndroid looks pretty ready for everyday use11:51
GluehenThanks for the answers11:51
arrrghhhlol11:51
arrrghhhenjoy11:51
arrrghhhska, this room is for WinMo devices that are ported to run Android11:52
arrrghhhska, did you somehow miss this?11:53
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15627213&postcount=411:53
arrrghhhread this, then read this then read this LOL11:53
arrrghhhcouldn't be simpler IMHO.11:53
skaarrrghhh: sorry, didn't see that.11:55
arrrghhh-_-11:55
mgross029Hey all.11:55
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mgross029Well finally got my build environment working properly now.  Thanks to everyone for assisting especially helicopter88 for helping me figure out my java situation.11:57
mgross029I was able to make successful finally. HA11:57
Tandyman100ahh the joys of compiling things12:02
mgross029lol ain't that the truth. :p12:02
Tandyman100I spent most of yesterday getting UnrealIRCd and Anope working properly.12:05
Tandyman100Then I go to try to advertise a little, not realizing that's frowned upon, and some jerkoff takes offense to my one line I posted, and DDoS'd my server for 15 minutes.12:05
Tandyman100Lesson learned: Don't try to advertise all over the place, and people are assholes.12:05
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mgross029The last part is especially true in most cased. heh12:07
Tandyman100Yup.12:08
Tandyman100I've tried several times, unsuccessfully to start an online community of some sort. But I always just fail from lack of interest.12:09
Tandyman100I got several of my friends to join, and a couple of them are rather active, but that's about it.12:09
mgross029Tandyman100, if you mention p0rn some where in the title you'll probably get tons of hits.  lol12:14
arrrghhhTandyman100, what's the point?12:15
Tandyman100arrrghhh: I got sick of existing communities and their downsides, so I made my own little nirvana.12:16
Tandyman100Technology-oriented, but heavily favors off-topic discussion.12:16
Tandyman100I love off-topic discussion.12:17
arrrghhhlol12:17
arrrghhhi guess i'm a cynical bastard12:17
Tandyman100Also, I'm going to go try to cook my own Rhodium ROM. See you in a couple hours when I inevitably brick my phone.12:17
arrrghhhthere's more than enough online communities IMHO12:17
arrrghhhROM for Android?12:17
Tandyman100IDGAF if I brick it, though, because it's falling apart. The layers of the resistive screen are actually seperating.12:17
Tandyman100Nah, winmo ROM.12:17
arrrghhhoh12:17
arrrghhhwhy12:17
Tandyman100My battery is too crap for Android, so I guess i'll just tailor-make a winmo ROM until I can afford new batteries or a new phone.12:18
arrrghhhafford?12:18
arrrghhhi thought mommy was buyin'12:18
arrrghhhbesides, batts are cheap12:18
arrrghhhespecially the cheapo ones that last a month12:18
arrrghhh:D12:18
Tandyman100My mom is buying the $20 pack of two 1700mah batteries, but I don't want to do that if my phone is falling apart.12:19
Tandyman100If my phone fails, i'll just use a dumbphone 'till I can afford an HD212:19
arrrghhhyea12:20
arrrghhhyou really are a masochist12:20
arrrghhhwhy even buy the HD2?  why not get a native device?12:20
Tandyman100Because I want to try WP712:21
arrrghhhdon't think it'll be like a wp7 phone...12:21
Tandyman100and those specs for $150 is REALLY good.12:21
arrrghhhyou can get pretty much anything with those specs for that price...12:21
Tandyman100arrrghhh: it actually makes a gret WP7 device, from what I've heard. Everything works.12:21
arrrghhhthere's a literal ton of phones with those specs.12:21
arrrghhhyou've been lied to.12:21
Tandyman100But none that run WP7, or Android, and have the possibility of running Android 4.012:21
arrrghhhuh12:22
arrrghhhif you remove the stupid OS from the equation12:22
arrrghhhmost will run 4.0, whether it's official or not.12:22
Tandyman100It's the multibooting that appeals to me. If I don't like an OS, I can use another.12:22
arrrghhhalthough it seems like adreno205+ is going to be necessary.12:22
arrrghhhso you'd rather have a bunch of subpar OSes than one good one.12:23
arrrghhhok.12:23
Tandyman100...Android, WP7, and Winmo can all run from NAND if you want them to.12:23
Tandyman100And all work practically flawlessly on the HD212:23
arrrghhhyou know this for a fact?12:24
Tandyman100though it seems the WP7 market has a tendency to break occasionally.12:24
Tandyman100Yes.12:24
Tandyman100I've talked to people who use WP7 HD2s as their main phone.12:24
arrrghhhk12:24
arrrghhhi've heard differently, but i don't give a fuck about wp712:24
arrrghhhi've used it enough to know there's nothing for me thar.12:24
Tandyman100lol12:25
Tandyman100I'll probably end up with Android in NAND on it.12:25
Tandyman100Because for $150 I'm still convinced you can't find a better phone.12:25
arrrghhhk12:26
arrrghhhi'd rather have an evo, but that's just me.12:26
Tandyman100You can get an evo for $150?12:26
* Tandyman100 looks12:26
arrrghhhi've never looked, but i bet you can12:26
arrrghhhi have no plans to switch12:26
Tandyman100http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2682141208.html12:26
Tandyman100$90 HD212:26
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Tandyman100OOH12:27
Tandyman100http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2682026139.html12:27
Tandyman100$8012:27
Tandyman100not an HD2, but those are good phones, right?12:27
arrrghhhis that the desire?12:27
arrrghhhnot bad12:27
arrrghhhpretty much the same specs as the hd2 i think.12:27
Tandyman100Crud, it's not T-Mobile though.12:28
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arrrghhhneither is the evo12:28
Tandyman100I know :/12:29
Tandyman100But I'm going to upgrade to a plan with 3g access, and that doesn't work on non-naitive-tmo devices, right?12:29
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arrrghhhi don't know what you mean12:32
arrrghhhspeak english12:32
Tandyman100Would I be able to take a, say, AT&T phone, and use it on T-Mobile's 3g network and get full 3g speeds just like I would with a t-mobile branded GSM device?12:34
arrrghhhno12:34
arrrghhhi don't believe so12:34
arrrghhhbut i'm not an expert on bands12:34
arrrghhhi hear there's this google thingy12:34
arrrghhhwhere you can search?12:34
arrrghhhand it'll answer your questions.  you've GOT to try it.12:34
Tandyman100That sounds amazing.12:35
arrrghhhit is.12:37
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mgross029arrrghhh, Did you ever come out of nand land to try some of emwe's too gb goodness?12:56
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mgross029detule, Any luck getting rid of the FC messages in gb?13:19
detuleno and i even changed the build.prop13:20
mgross029Did you start with a fresh data.img?13:21
detuleyeah, though i am not sure if i changed it from 4 to 0 or from 0 to 4 tbh13:21
detulei just changed whatever was in the default system.ext2 image that i have13:22
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mgross029detule, yeah I hear ya there.  Sometimes I've changed things and forgot which I did. :p13:24
mgross029It should be 4 for CDMA w/EVDO btw.13:24
Tandyman100Yeah, any clues on an ETA for the next public GB release?13:25
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mgross029Tandyman100, devs are still working out the bugs and turning on features, so no unfortunately13:26
Tandyman100Ah, ok. Just wondering, since GBX0A seemed so very alpha.13:36
Tandyman100And there's been two or three FRX releases since then.13:36
arrrghhhdon't ask for releases.13:43
arrrghhhrelease dates *13:43
arrrghhhpretty much a cardinal sin on any project.  ever.13:43
Tandyman100Okay.13:43
arrrghhhwe've been testing new gb images for a while now13:46
arrrghhhproblem is there's more bugs than fixes at this point...13:47
arrrghhhmainly because of the new acoustic13:47
Tandyman100I volunteer to be a Rhod210 tester.13:47
Tandyman100:P13:47
arrrghhh?13:47
arrrghhhi wasn't trolling for testers last time i checked.13:47
Tandyman100I was just throwing that out there in case you didn't have anyone to test on a Rhod210.13:47
arrrghhhNAND testers are needed on GSM tho.13:47
* Tandyman100 points to his GSM device13:48
arrrghhhalthough ACL said the layout isn't done13:48
arrrghhhso you won't be able to flash Android13:48
Tandyman100ah13:48
* Tandyman100 points to his empty head13:48
Tandyman100that might be a hinderance to any testing13:48
arrrghhhall you'd be able to do is verify LK detects your device correctly13:48
arrrghhh-__13:48
arrrghhhlol13:48
Tandyman100You should know that better than most people here.13:48
arrrghhhsorry, my cynical face had a stroke13:48
arrrghhh-_-13:48
Tandyman100hah13:48
Tandyman100I've been there. Feels weird.13:49
mgross029arrrghhh, so the truck still in one piece? :p13:51
arrrghhhhaven't hit anything yet13:53
arrrghhhi went BLASTING thru some snow banks13:53
arrrghhhi have such a ridiculous attack angle now13:54
arrrghhhit didn't even hit the bumper.13:54
mgross029Ahh. That's always fun.13:54
arrrghhhyea, always had a lot of low-hanging plastic before so i never did it :P13:54
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Tandyman100Wow, very nice.13:54
arrrghhhgood times13:54
Tandyman100I feel like doing a bunch of insanely stupid mods to my LeSabre. Spoiler, side exhaust, and matte black paint job.13:54
arrrghhhnow i need someone to rear-end me so i can get a new rear bumper.13:54
Tandyman100Ricer Buick.13:54
arrrghhhgod no.13:55
arrrghhhmaybe if it was a grand national13:55
Tandyman1002002 LeSabre Limited :P13:55
arrrghhh*vomit*13:55
Tandyman100it's actually *kind of* sport looking. The looks were based on a muscle car with REALLY ROUNDED EDGES13:55
arrrghhhi guess not bad for a first car tho.13:55
arrrghhhmuscle car != buick13:55
arrrghhhseriously.13:55
Tandyman100Not horrible. Typical GM construction, tho. By which I mean all the interior plastic is falling off13:55
arrrghhhthe only car they made that was worth anything was the grand national.13:55
* Tandyman100 points to the GNX13:55
arrrghhhevery other car is a grandpa car.13:56
Tandyman100The 1999 Lucerne had a supercharged engine.13:56
arrrghhhso did a lot of the park ave's13:56
Tandyman100Exact same engine that's in the LeSabre, just supercharged13:56
arrrghhhdoesn't mean they were fast.13:56
arrrghhhmy NA maxima would smoke 'em.13:56
Tandyman100200hp, 0-60 in 7 or 8 seconds.13:56
arrrghhhlol13:56
arrrghhhNA maxi is ~200hp.13:56
Tandyman100It's pretty fun in something with suspension THAT floaty.13:56
arrrghhhfrom 199613:56
arrrghhhuhm... no.13:56
Tandyman100Floor it = whole car tilts backwards = feels like you're accellerating faster.13:57
arrrghhhyea13:57
arrrghhhhit a bump on the highway doing 120.13:57
arrrghhhif you can get up that high :P13:57
Tandyman100Go around corner = whole car tilts sideways = feels like you're cornering faster13:57
Tandyman100It's just *fun*13:57
arrrghhh...13:57
Tandyman100I kinda want a 240SX, though. I saw some of those at a rallycross event here in Wichita. More or less stock, they could *move*13:58
arrrghhhlol13:58
arrrghhhnever heard of the silvia then eh?13:58
mgross029Hmmm...  Sway bars anyone. :p13:58
Tandyman100heh13:58
arrrghhhsilvia is a good drift car.13:58
Tandyman100naww, go with a live axle, smoke your tires around corners13:58
* Tandyman100 looks at the mustang13:58
arrrghhh-_-13:58
Tandyman100I do think the 'stang is overrated, tho.13:58
mgross029I used to drag race my 1973 Chevelle, that was about ummm... nevermind14:00
mgross029just a while ago. heh14:00
Tandyman100Ooh, nice.14:01
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Tandyman100If I end up having the money, I want an SS El Camino.14:02
mgross029helicopter88, thanks for the suggestions on java yesterday.  Got my build environment finally working.14:05
helicopter88you're welcome14:06
mgross029Between the wiki, google, emwe, yours and others help I was finally able to get a system.img to spit out. :p14:06
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mgross029privmsg arrrghhh been getting BSoD on my Windows 7 system at home that I upgraded to 16GB so I loaded up a gui version of memtest.  I have 5 instances of it running each testing a separte 2GB chunk15:16
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helicopter88mgross029: looks like your privmsg wasn't so priv :)15:22
mgross029helicopter88 yep that damn / bit me...  HA15:22
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Tandyman100lol mgross02915:24
mgross029Then this pos webIRC bombed on me...  Bleh15:25
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emwemgross029: seems you got a FC friend with detule. detule as you are RIL-affine, are you able to track down what might cause the wrong network type selection on gb and how it would differ from froyo?16:27
mgross029emwe, yeah if its in the RIL it would be interesting to know what it is because it sticks to the userland and won't let go.  I keep meaning to looking into data/data to see what build.prop writes through but keep getting side tracked by rl. :p16:30
emwewould be good if you guys could figure that out.16:30
emwethe RIL itself is identical to froyo one.16:30
emwehave you ever tried a fresh image with .27-acoustic kernel? i think we talked about this already. don't remember exactly.16:31
emwewould be nice to know if it is reproduceable.16:31
emwedetule: you tried the gb image with .39 kernel?16:31
Tandyman100http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2680094826.html16:33
Tandyman100Do you guys think I should get this?16:33
detuleemwe, i ahve but with FCs it's unusable16:35
emweok, so it seems unrelated to the kernel used. whcih is good actually :P16:35
mgross029emwe, yes I believe I did but I will retest just to be sure.  I've also tried a .39 kernel with gb it actually works well except for acoustics16:35
emwemgross029: detule just confirmed he tried with .39... so it seems it's a CDMA thingy16:35
mgross029Yep I agree FC on .39 fresh image as well16:35
emweok16:35
emwethen it's very likely to be .27 as well16:36
emweso if you guys could somehow figure what happens over there.16:36
emweit's one thing looking at logs remotely, or having the device in front of yourself for tinkering.16:36
mgross029emwe, I'll see what I can dig up on my end16:38
emwewould be cool if you guys could look at it.16:39
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mgross029I'm out guys...  Laters!17:06
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Tandyman100Good news, guys. I might be able to donate a functional Rhod210 to the cause soon.17:52
Tandyman100Possibly17:52
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rpierce99arrrghhh: you around?20:15
arrrghhhkinda20:19
arrrghhhwhat's up?20:19
arrrghhh?20:20
rpierce99you could pretty much reproduce the android reboot at will couldn't you?20:21
arrrghhhon froyo, i think so.20:22
arrrghhhi see the discussion on #htc-linux20:22
rpierce99yeah20:22
arrrghhhon gb, i don't think i've ever had a reboot within Android.20:22
rpierce99do you know what the GB conf looks like as it relates to that setting20:22
arrrghhhwell i didn't change the conf for gb20:23
arrrghhhother than the name20:23
arrrghhhgingerbread.user.conf20:23
arrrghhhthat was it.20:23
rpierce99froyo.user.conf just renamed20:23
rpierce99ok20:23
rpierce99so it's the same20:23
arrrghhhyup20:23
rpierce99does gb do a bunch of updates when you first start it up?20:23
arrrghhhafter you sync it with google, i believe it does.20:24
rpierce99hm, maybe the gb LMK does a better job so the kernel doesn't have to OOM kill anything20:24
arrrghhhperhaps...20:28
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arrrghhhgoin home.20:34
rpierce99bout time20:35
rpierce99its late20:35
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zerofeel_hey all21:58
zerofeel_you seen this?21:58
zerofeel_$1000 USD to the first developer who ports the actual Siri from the Apple 4s to Android from http://tabletroms.com http://tabletroms.com/forums/forum-polls-community-contents/3186-proof-concept-port-siri-apple-4s-android-%241-000-00-usd.html#post3417321:58
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Tandyman100Is that even *possible*?22:56
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