Friday, 2011-10-28

arrrghhhLaynee1, no00:20
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Chat3421Hi02:39
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turbolapini have win 7 on vmware 8 but it cannot recognise my RAPH100 when on 3color screen. Does anyone have any clue of what's going on?07:24
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arrrghhhturbolapin, i know you're not here right now11:11
arrrghhhbut FFS DO NOT USE A VM TO FLASH11:11
arrrghhhyou will end up bricking your raph, for sure.11:12
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ryannathansarrrghhh speaks truth11:24
arrrghhhoh well, he's not here.11:25
arrrghhhhopefully he doesn't try anymore11:25
arrrghhhi have a feeling it's too late11:25
arrrghhhand that's not the guy with 100's of RAPH's lol11:25
arrrghhhunless he changed his handle11:25
ryannathansheh11:25
ryannathansI wrote a hello world in java for an android app11:26
ryannathans\o/ my first java app11:26
ryannathansi just gotta pick up java for the sole purpose of coding android apps, bit of a pain but o well11:26
ryannathansthe appinventor works with our sdcard xdandroid, however it's the biggest pile of shit ever.11:27
* ryannathans preferrs to code the app himself11:27
arrrghhhwell yea11:27
arrrghhhi guess i don't care about writing android apps11:28
ryannathansno need i guess ;)11:28
arrrghhhsomeone at my work keeps harassing me to write him one.  fuck off.11:28
ryannathansrofl11:28
ryannathanstake his ideas and run11:28
arrrghhhheh11:28
arrrghhhhe won't tell me11:28
arrrghhhsays it's not even his idea... yea11:28
arrrghhhi just stay away11:28
ryannathansfair enough11:29
ryannathansI noticed my thread got unstickied11:29
* ryannathans cries11:29
arrrghhhlol11:30
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stinebdarrrghhh: just between you and me, i've flashed rhod and raph repeatedly through virtualbox12:05
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arrrghhhstinebd, yea12:07
arrrghhhbut it is dangerous12:07
arrrghhhwould you not agree?12:07
stinebdno12:07
arrrghhhoh12:07
arrrghhhok, maybe i'm just crazy12:07
arrrghhhi thought the 'fake' USB drivers et al present some danger12:07
stinebdon a linux host, programs can get direct access to usb hardware, so it's basically like having real devices present for the virtual machine12:08
stinebdthe only danger involved would be a panic in the host kernel12:08
arrrghhhyea12:08
stinebdwhich is an equal danger in the windows kernel on both real hardware and in a virtual machine12:08
arrrghhhwhich i guess you run that risk on physical hardware too12:08
arrrghhhyea12:08
emwehiho peeps12:09
ryannathansgday12:09
arrrghhhwassup emwe12:10
arrrghhhi'm on your GB 2.3.7 build :P12:10
stinebdhello emwe and other person12:10
arrrghhhlol12:10
emweif that PD doctor did look right, it's a boy ;)12:11
stinebdoh god, boys are trouble12:11
emwewe wouldn't have minded it being a girl, but now it's the other 50% chance.12:13
emwebtw, bought a bt headset for testing pleasure. was surprised it does even work...12:15
emwearrrghhh: still need to find a solution, because the Superuser app doesn't come up here and no root access is granted. can you confirm?12:16
arrrghhhditto12:21
stinebdemwe: how much? i'll send you money from the warchest12:23
emwestinebd: you can include some bucks if you intend to do another share round after the next release.12:24
emwethat sounds ok?12:24
stinebdif we remember it12:24
emwei will :P12:25
emweit was 30€12:25
emweit's not like i may not have a use for it, so...12:25
stinebdincluding VAT?12:25
emweyes.12:25
stinebdnot bad12:25
emwei just stood in front of the accessories and thought... well, it must be one of these.12:26
stinebdbtw, i don't like that VAT you guys pay12:26
emwedidn't investigate much about which is good or not12:26
emwebecause? it's too high?12:26
stinebdyeah12:27
stinebdmakes importing video games very expensive12:27
emweheh12:27
stinebd50 bucks for the game, plus the shipping, plus vat which is like 20% or something12:28
stinebdi liked japan's consumption tax at 5%12:29
emwe19%, 7% reduced.12:29
* ryannathans buys video games over services such as steam, no VAT or tax of any kind12:32
ryannathansinternational ftw12:32
arrrghhhor physical media12:35
arrrghhhso they can just take it all away on a whim....12:35
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turbolapinhello12:39
ryannathanshello12:42
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emwestinebd: updating the manifest is just a matter of going to .repo/manifest, editing default.xml and pusing, yap?13:10
stinebdpretty much13:11
emweok.13:11
emwelooks it wen't fine.13:18
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turbolapindoes anybody knows a tool that i can flash nbh for my raph100 in linux?14:16
arrrghhhturbolapin, i already answered that question14:17
arrrghhhit doesn't work, don't even bother.14:17
turbolapinthere is no tool? :P14:17
arrrghhhflash via SD, what's the big deal?14:17
arrrghhhthere's a tool, but the brick risk is retarded.14:17
arrrghhhwell14:17
turbolapinif i flash android nand via sd card14:17
arrrghhhi shouldn't say there is a tool14:17
turbolapinthen i cannot flash wm back because i don't have a card reader14:18
arrrghhhthere's some insane people that have tried to mash together something in linux14:18
arrrghhhwhat do you need a card reader for?14:18
arrrghhhthe phone acts as one...14:18
turbolapinplace the nbh files in sd card14:18
arrrghhhalso, card readers are like $214:18
turbolapinyes it acts but14:18
arrrghhhi got a usb-to-microSD plug with a few of my SD cards14:19
arrrghhhso i have like 4 of 'em now.14:19
turbolapinif i flash android and i can't even get to the screen how will i reflash wm back? i will not be able to change the nbh file14:19
turbolapin4? hehe14:19
arrrghhhcan't even get to the screen?14:20
arrrghhhw/o adb you'd be SOL14:20
arrrghhhyou don't have friends?14:20
arrrghhhno other phones?14:20
turbolapinthe desktop i don't know how it is called :P14:20
turbolapinother phones no14:20
arrrghhhthen don't even attempt NAND14:20
turbolapini don't want to bother friends :P14:20
arrrghhhunless you have a backup phone14:20
turbolapin..14:22
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arrrghhhwhy would you risk bricking your only phone?14:27
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turbolapin1) Because i like risks in technology.14:37
turbolapin2) I want to learn.14:37
turbolapin3) My phone is low cost. I can find a used diam100 for 50euros so i guess raph100 will be less than 100.14:37
turbolapin4) I'm bored in watching topics about raph nand and the only answer is "no active devs".14:37
turbolapinI know C/C++, i know the basic in scripts and i want to help.14:37
turbolapinAre these enough for you? :)14:37
arrrghhhso have at it14:39
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arrrghhhstinebd, i have more retarded questions about the in-call screen14:57
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arrrghhhbasically ACL has built OMGB and wants to change as little as possible14:57
arrrghhhand the in-call screen is completely blank like FRX06 used to be14:58
arrrghhhdid you do some crazy hax to get the in-call screen we have in FRX07?14:58
rpierce99IIRC it was a small change to some xml14:58
arrrghhhthat's what i thought14:58
arrrghhhsome overlay xml14:58
rpierce99go find the commit noob14:58
arrrghhhlol14:59
arrrghhhi figured abel's already done that, but i guess i shouldn't assume.14:59
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arrrghhhoh well, seems like it was a simple setting at build-time on OMGB15:11
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rpierce99the touchpad is making a comeback :)15:24
arrrghhhwat15:27
arrrghhhwouldn't it have to be popular in the first place in order to 'make a comeback'?15:29
rpierce99it was popular for like a week15:31
rpierce99but they're going to sell it again15:31
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emwebzo, the man for the rough.16:03
bzohi emwe16:16
bzohmm, man for the rough? not sure I like the sound of that :P16:16
emwehow are you doing?16:18
bzonot bad, u?16:19
emwesame here. free evening wasted with xdandroid, what else.16:24
emwearrrghhh: did you speak of this earlier? https://github.com/acl/device_htc_rhodium/commit/569481276075b84beb62a3395b5814eb51395c8116:24
bzoheh, well hurry up and get it finished before the kid arrives16:25
emwebzo: ever rejoning in the chant again?16:25
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bzoI know from experience, I have several16:25
emwehah, you log stalker arrrghhh would say.16:26
bzohopefully so, works has been keeping me to busy lately16:26
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emwetook me a while to get off the couch earlier. i can understand why one would rather relax in free time.16:27
stinebdWinter Storm Warning from Sat, 2am until Sun, 2am EDT 10-15 in of snow over the next 36 hours16:54
stinebdumwut16:54
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raymonddulllol,there was frost on the grass when I woke up today,but no actual snow yet.17:00
raymonddullI'm soooooo not ready for that yet17:00
stinebdthe weather channel is a lie17:01
stinebdthe warning is only 6-10 inches17:01
stinebd"only"17:01
stinebdin october17:01
raymonddulllmfao,thats terrible.17:03
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arrrghhhthey were saying 4-20 inches18:30
arrrghhhand 6 fell18:30
arrrghhhalthough i think other areas got slightly more18:30
arrrghhhi don't think anyone got 2 feet...18:30
bzosnow? wut's that?18:34
arrrghhhbzo, you were a mountain man for a while18:34
arrrghhhyou should know :P18:34
bzoactually, it looks like I will probably be moving to CO next summer18:34
bzogoodbye snowless winters18:35
arrrghhhwhere you at now?18:35
bzosan francisco18:35
raymonddullI got a letter from fedex today... I was denied. they said the package is in their system as delivered,they have no responsibility to make sure it got inside,blah blah blah basically a "sucks to be you"18:35
arrrghhhoic18:35
raymonddullbut oh well,I'll probably be able to use the lcd in something else.18:35
arrrghhhraymonddull, sorry guy18:35
bzoarrrghhh: you live in/near denver right?18:36
raymonddullnot your fault,its fedex's18:36
arrrghhhif it makes you feel any better, i'm thinking i should've taken you up on that evo :P18:36
arrrghhhbzo, yup.  my addy is in denver.  i'm not 'downtown' tho.18:36
arrrghhhprobably 5 miles south of if18:37
raymonddulldon't like the cr-48?18:37
arrrghhhnah the cr-48 is cool18:37
bzomight want to pick your brain on where to live/not to live :)18:37
raymonddulltp2 dying then?18:37
arrrghhhbut in retrospect, i probably could've put the evo to more use18:37
raymonddullahh18:37
arrrghhhjust driving me batty, and i thought i killed BOTH my tp2's over the last two days :P18:37
arrrghhhbzo, that's cool dude.  moving for work?18:37
raymonddulllmfao18:37
raymonddullhow'd you manage that?18:37
arrrghhhkilled the batteries so low that they wouldn't boot18:38
arrrghhhwell the battery would start to charge, and then it would auto-boot18:38
raymonddulland couldn't charge then because you flashed nand18:38
bzoarrrghhh: not exactly, wife has been wanting to live closer to her fam18:38
raymonddulllol18:38
arrrghhhand fail mid-boot because the batt was so low.18:38
arrrghhhmebbe18:38
bzoarrrghhh: least I convinced her we should be in Denver and not the springs though18:38
arrrghhhbzo, oic.  san fran seems nice, just pricey.  i don't make much tho :P18:38
* raymonddull looks down at external charger for htc batteries,currently bent to charge a samsung battery18:38
arrrghhhbzo, good job there lol18:38
arrrghhhbent lol18:39
bzoI think going from super urban SF to the springs would be too much of a shock to my system18:39
arrrghhhbwhahaha18:39
raymonddullarrrghhh: sounds like you should invest in one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-home-AC-WALL-dock-charger-Sprint-HTC-Evo-4G-/200645733267?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2eb76aeb93#ht_500wt_127018:39
arrrghhhyea i was seriously considering buying that18:39
arrrghhhi was worried it wouldn't work tho18:39
raymonddullworks just fine.18:39
arrrghhhlooks... very knock off18:40
arrrghhhcool18:40
raymonddullI've used it to charge my mom's mytouch slide,the 4 batteries I had for the evo,got me out of a few stick situations with a droid 2,and now with a captivate.18:40
arrrghhhhah18:40
raymonddullthe droid 2 was one where it wouldn't charge a battery without a working kernel,but wouldn't flash anything unless the battery was over 40%18:40
arrrghhhzomg18:41
raymonddullyeah,that was a fun time.18:41
arrrghhhwell having two identical phones18:41
arrrghhhtwo different batteries (one seidio one EVO)18:41
arrrghhhand neither of them would work18:41
arrrghhhmade me want to stab people18:42
raymonddullI bent the pins to fit the battery and taped the weird shaped battery in place and it charged. anything 3.6v it'll charge.18:42
raymonddullthat sounds like it would piss me off too.18:42
bzoyeah, any li-ion charger will work18:42
arrrghhhironically my tester rhod seemed bricked18:42
raymonddullhow'd you end up charging the batteries?18:42
arrrghhhbut it started charging batteries.  it just no longer boots18:42
raymonddullohh18:42
arrrghhhyea18:42
arrrghhhi don't know how or why18:42
arrrghhhbut i'm happy18:42
raymonddullI'm holding a $100 paperweight right now.18:43
arrrghhhlol18:43
bzoconsider it a very fancy battery charger18:43
raymonddullcaptivate that will not boot even into download mode by any method on xda or elsewhere even the usb jig.18:43
raymonddullits going to samsung for warranty replacement tomorrow,I already set up a repair but I don't want to let them win,I want to do this myself.18:43
arrrghhhgood thing this was a donor18:44
arrrghhhi'd feel bad selling it :P18:44
XirXescan you not even get into the spl arrrghhh?18:45
arrrghhhXirXes, i can18:45
raymonddullim wondering what happened to this captivate. I bought it on ebay listed as bricked during an ota update,I got it and it doesn't do anything at all,no download mode,no boot loop,it doesn't even light up at all, and there are 2 screws missing.18:45
arrrghhhbut i flashed energy18:45
arrrghhhstock18:45
arrrghhhall flashes are 'successful'18:45
arrrghhhbut then it boots to the HTC boot logo18:45
arrrghhhand stays there18:45
arrrghhhstaring at me18:45
arrrghhhtaunting me....18:45
XirXestask 2918:45
arrrghhhyea, i was going to try that18:46
arrrghhhhaven't really troubleshot it much18:46
arrrghhhi was just amazed it started charging batteries18:46
XirXeslol18:46
arrrghhhi didn't want to touch it18:46
arrrghhhnow that i'm back up in business, i can troubleshoot it :D18:46
arrrghhhi just fixed this debacle last night18:46
raymonddullas long as its not physically broken,task 29 should fix anything18:47
bzoarrrghhh: where is the project page for omgb that [acl] refers to?18:47
arrrghhherm probably the rhodium google code page18:48
arrrghhh1 sec18:48
arrrghhhhttp://code.google.com/p/rhodium-nand/18:48
arrrghhhthere's a wiki and issues section18:48
XirXesyeah. i felt the same way about my pcs windows install. its been like 2 months since it stopped working18:48
bzook thanks18:48
arrrghhhi'm doing my best to separate userland OMGB issues from kernel/NAND/LK issues, but I don't know if I'm doing a good job at that :P18:48
arrrghhhXirXes, lol18:48
bzoI am thinking about going nand18:49
bzoand taunting the phone to brick so I have an excuse to buy a new one18:49
arrrghhhsince it's not my main phone...18:49
arrrghhhbzo, lmao18:49
arrrghhhdude the brick risk is pretty low at this stage18:49
bzoI have to run android full time now anyways18:49
arrrghhhhowever, you should make sure that your battery stays charged :P18:49
arrrghhhhave to?18:49
bzowinmo seems to go crazy with the verizon radio18:49
raymonddullhmm,its probably a bad thing that when I set my hand on the palmrest I can hear the top of the hard drive hit the disk spindle.18:49
arrrghhhbzo, aren't you on sprint?18:50
bzoyeah18:50
XirXeshas there been any progress on nand for gsm rhods?18:50
arrrghhhlol so flash the 2.32 sprint radio...18:50
arrrghhhwell i guess any excuse to be on android full time :P18:50
arrrghhhXirXes, nope18:50
raymonddullXirXes: does it still think the sim is an sdcard?18:50
arrrghhhno dev has stepped up18:50
arrrghhhor donated18:50
arrrghhher18:50
arrrghhhno gsm device has been donated18:50
bzoeh, should be running android anyways18:50
arrrghhhi trolled for one today in fact :P18:50
XirXeswill it boot. I use my rhod as a wifi only device?18:50
bzoone could consider that feature of the verizon radio a plus18:50
arrrghhhXirXes, AFAIK yes18:51
arrrghhhbut i don't know.18:51
arrrghhhACL said the OMGB build was CDMA only18:51
XirXesIll have to play with it18:51
arrrghhhwith the previous tests he said it would work for both18:51
arrrghhhXirXes, could you do me a favor?18:51
XirXessure18:51
arrrghhhi'd really like to know if the new LK detects your phone properly18:51
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arrrghhhwhen you do get some time to test18:51
raymonddullarrrghhh: iirc it will boot but only without a sim18:51
XirXesIve got the time now18:51
arrrghhhflash LK and when you get to the first blue screen the very first line it should say what phone its detected18:52
arrrghhhraymonddull, i know, that's old news.18:52
arrrghhhthere's been quite a lot changed since then18:52
arrrghhhbut probably not much for GSM lol18:52
raymonddulllol18:52
arrrghhhACL's been an animal with it.  he paid for his phone to get on boost, in addition for paying for boost service.18:52
XirXeswhere do i get lk? do i have to compile it myself?18:52
arrrghhhXirXes, nah18:52
arrrghhhsame page i linked earlier18:52
arrrghhhgo to downloads18:53
arrrghhhthe NBH18:53
arrrghhhAFAIK you have to flash with SD18:53
arrrghhhyou'll need an SD reader handy18:53
arrrghhhso you can flash back to WinMo18:53
raymonddullI'm officially sprint free as of midnight last night,I'm on tmobile prepaid, $30/month for 100min,unlimited text and "unlimited" data throttled to sprint speeds after 5gb18:53
bzoI've been tempted to switch to that18:53
arrrghhher i guess you could just flash with USB from bootloader back to winmo18:54
arrrghhhwtf am i thinking18:54
arrrghhhthrottled to sprint speeds18:54
arrrghhhlol18:54
XirXescan't flash via usb. I'm in mac18:54
arrrghhhyea, sprint data is pretty slow.  i haven't tasted the 4g nectar tho.18:54
arrrghhhXirXes, my condolences.18:54
bzoarrrghhh: u a sero captive?18:54
arrrghhhbzo, total advantage18:54
bzoah, even better18:55
XirXesits not any worse than any other os18:55
arrrghhhmy buddy works for 'em...18:55
arrrghhhindeed18:55
arrrghhhXirXes, i'm just giving ya crap :P18:55
arrrghhhit's good at some things.  like any other OS as you said.18:55
raymonddullspeedtest averages here are 2.5mbps down,1.3mbps up on tmobile,~300kbps down,~400kbps up on sprint on a good day18:55
arrrghhhlol18:55
arrrghhhraymonddull, is that 4geeeeeee18:55
arrrghhhon sprint18:55
raymonddullnah,thats 3g18:55
raymonddullon 4g I was getting like 4mbps down,1.4mbps up18:56
arrrghhhare you comparing apples & oranges?18:56
raymonddullbut I only get that in one corner of my house.18:56
arrrghhhlmao18:56
raymonddullboth of those are 3g speeds.18:56
arrrghhhhey, at least in that corner18:56
arrrghhhoh that's not HSPA?18:56
arrrghhhor hspa+18:56
arrrghhhwtfever18:56
arrrghhh3.5geeeee18:56
raymonddullits hsdpa,no hspa+ here.18:56
arrrghhhah18:56
XirXesmy rhod has been in windows unplugged for a few weeks now. I wanted to see how long it would last but its at 50% battery now18:56
arrrghhhok18:56
arrrghhhXirXes, FFS.  winmo is insane with battery.18:57
raymonddullan hspa+ area (cleveland) I've seen 13mbps down,3mbps up18:57
XirXesfor sure18:57
bzolol, I barely get sprint 3g at my house - fricking hills...18:57
XirXesits been blowin my mind18:57
raymonddullXirXes: sounds like my optimus v,I left it in airplane mode and forgot about it,3 weeks later it was at 73%18:57
raymonddullhmm,time to start closing some chrome tabs,I don't have labels anymore.18:59
arrrghhhzomg19:00
arrrghhhgot a couple tabs open?19:00
XirXesI've gotten to the point where I need more ram to open more tabs on several occasions19:01
arrrghhhHP f-ed up with my laptop19:01
arrrghhhand gave me an upgrade for free19:01
raymonddullhttp://goo.gl/P2xCZ19:01
raymonddullmore than a couple19:01
arrrghhhi don't think i'll ever run out, 12gb19:02
raymonddull:( I only have 6gb.19:02
arrrghhhlol19:02
arrrghhhthat's what i started with19:02
arrrghhhwhat i originally ordered19:02
XirXesI have 4…. :(19:02
bzoram is cheaper than big macs nowadays19:02
arrrghhhyea19:02
bzohave 16gb for no good reason at all19:02
XirXesIm running a hackintosh19:02
arrrghhhfor no good reason at all lol19:03
arrrghhhi've ran a few VM's, just because i can.19:03
arrrghhhyea, give that vm 4gb.  give that one 4 too.19:03
raymonddulldo they even make 8gb ram sticks for laptops yet?19:03
* raymonddull goes to check newegg19:03
arrrghhhi dunno19:03
arrrghhhlol19:03
bzoprobably, the 8gb sticks are expensive though19:04
raymonddulloh sweet,for only $400 I can have 16gb ram in this thing.19:04
raymonddullI'll probably just pull the 2gb stick and bump it up to a total of 8gb and call it a day19:04
XirXesgoddamnit. the spl doesn't like my sd card19:05
bzoyeah, I've seen 2x4gb sodimms as low as $35 lately19:05
raymonddullI would just need 1 4gb stick,I have 2 slots filled with a 2gb and a 4gb19:05
bzowell, spending 20 bucks on that is a no brainer then :)19:06
raymonddullyeah19:07
raymonddullI was just sitting here wondering how the hell all that added up to like 5gb of ram used,then I remembered I have a 2.5gb ram disk set up.19:08
XirXesok. flashed it19:09
arrrghhhXirXes, cool19:10
arrrghhhso when it boots, what does that first line say?19:10
arrrghhhmight be the first two lines19:10
XirXesRhodium (2) GSM Found19:10
arrrghhhperfect.19:11
arrrghhhwell19:11
arrrghhhi guess we can try to flash recovery & OMGB.  dunno what will happen to be honest...19:11
XirXesfast boot is working too19:11
arrrghhhi wish abel was around :P19:11
XirXeslets try it. I aint scurred19:12
turbolapingoodnight guys19:12
arrrghhhcya19:13
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XirXesI just flashed recovery19:14
XirXeshow to I boot it to recovery19:14
arrrghhhcool, try to boot it19:14
arrrghhhwell19:14
bzoarrrghhh: know if acl has the source and build code published?19:14
arrrghhhit seems there's a couple ways19:14
arrrghhhbut the fastest is fastboot boot recovery.img or some such thing19:14
arrrghhhotherwise you hold power when you see miniPoopLoader19:14
arrrghhhbzo, github.  1 sec19:15
arrrghhhhttps://github.com/acl/device_htc_rhodium19:16
bzothanks19:16
arrrghhhnp mate19:16
XirXesMy screen is blank but dab confirmed its in recovery19:17
arrrghhhadb?19:17
arrrghhhi was going to ask wtf dab was :P19:17
raymonddulllol19:17
XirXesyeah sorry. some autocorrect bullshit keeps getting in my way19:17
arrrghhhXirXes, try send call19:17
arrrghhhor menu?19:18
arrrghhhi can't remember19:18
arrrghhhend call selects (go figure)19:18
arrrghhhback is back19:18
arrrghhhvol up is up, vol down is down19:18
arrrghhhsometimes the front 4 buttons don't work for me and i have to use the hw kb 'enter' key to select.19:18
raymonddullI know some htc native devices its vol.up+power to show recovery but idk about on these19:18
arrrghhhheh19:18
arrrghhhwell thanks to alex reboot to recovery now works from within Android19:19
raymonddullI know these are very far from native devices.19:19
arrrghhhthat was driving me batty, because i couldn't get into recovery normally.19:19
arrrghhhraymonddull, acl is really striving to be as close to native as possible19:19
raymonddullnice19:19
arrrghhhso adapting builds won't take a ton of hackery19:20
arrrghhhhe keeps shooting down my ideas, because evidently XDAndroid used a lot of hackery :P19:20
raymonddullfollow in the hd2's footsteps,its to the point that cm and miui basically treat it as a native device.19:20
arrrghhhyea19:20
XirXesIll keep playing with this. will it charge at this blue screen?19:23
arrrghhhno.19:23
arrrghhhif it would have, i wouldn't have had an issue :P19:23
arrrghhhalthough it should charge in recovery19:24
arrrghhhit probably won't ever be able to charge in LK19:24
XirXesWhat recovery is this? cam?19:24
arrrghhhacl said the CWM guys removed the charge code tho19:25
arrrghhhand he's watching it closely to figure out why19:25
XirXescwm?19:25
arrrghhhcwm19:25
raymonddullcwm removed charge code because on some devices it would charge,but not stop charging for some reason iirc.19:25
arrrghhhah19:25
arrrghhhand just blow up the batt?19:25
raymonddullbasically it was letting the battery decide when it was full not the phone,I consider that a feature19:26
raymonddullbut appearantly they don't19:26
arrrghhhlol19:26
arrrghhhi don't see why they would completely remove the charge code for that19:26
bzothat's really all the external chargers do, dumbly provide the 4.1v19:26
arrrghhhcuz i made it into recovery once19:26
arrrghhhand put it in charge mode19:26
raymonddullthe battery stops taking power when its full,thats how that charger i linked to you works,it just feeds the battery 4.2v and when it stops pulling current the light changes from purple to blue19:26
arrrghhhit didn't actually charge lol19:26
arrrghhhyea19:26
bzoraymonddull: yep19:27
arrrghhhi would hope most batteries nowadays would have a built in overcharge circuit19:27
bzothey all do19:27
raymonddullyeah19:27
bzothe phone really has very little control over the charge, aside from turning the juice on/off19:27
XirXesarrrghhh, if the usb cable is just plugged into a wall charger it won't autoboot19:28
arrrghhhXirXes, lies19:28
arrrghhhit did for me19:28
arrrghhhcuz i tried that.  trust me.19:28
bzoarrrghhh: is the omgb build comparable to xdandroid, aside from the cam?19:29
arrrghhhi even have the 'official' htc charger/cord19:29
arrrghhhbzo, comparable how?19:29
arrrghhhstability?19:29
bzothat and usability19:29
arrrghhhin some ways its better19:29
XirXesme too and mines off and charging19:29
arrrghhhthe prox sensor works :D19:29
arrrghhhbut yea, cam doesn't work yet19:29
arrrghhhi don't think GPS does either19:29
arrrghhhbut there's dumb things like the in-call screen19:29
bzoarrrghhh: my phone actually needs to mostly work, haha19:30
raymonddullabsolute worst case scenerio,strip a usb cable and connect red to positive and black to negative and it will charge,just don't leave it there too long,like 15 minutes to get you to the point the phone will boot. I had to revive a droid 2 like that a few times,it didn't hurt anything19:30
arrrghhhwhich talking to acl today, i think he figured out a fix.19:30
arrrghhhbzo, oh c'mon19:30
arrrghhhsoooo overrated :P19:30
arrrghhhraymonddull, it was getting close to that19:30
bzomeh, no one calls me anyway19:30
arrrghhhit works fine for calls19:30
arrrghhhtexts19:30
arrrghhhMMS19:30
arrrghhhironically19:30
arrrghhhconsidering the cam doesn't work lol19:31
arrrghhhno GPS kinda sucks.19:31
arrrghhhbut netloc work.19:31
arrrghhhworks*19:31
raymonddulllmfao,mms works? there are some native devices that still have issues with that.19:31
arrrghhhhyc is a beast.19:31
arrrghhhhe freakin disassembled sprint's MMS19:32
arrrghhhand wrote quite an article on it19:32
arrrghhhi even forwarded it to several higher-ups within Sprint19:32
arrrghhhdidn't get anywhere, evidently they have some third party provider for MMS19:32
arrrghhhwhich mangles the shit out of MMS, cuz none of the other carriers have the same issues.19:32
arrrghhhi can find the article, pretty good read19:33
arrrghhhit's on the ML19:33
raymonddullhmm,cool19:33
arrrghhhsprint told me to post it on the developer site19:34
arrrghhhno response.19:34
bzoI'll have to chat with acl on how to setup a build env19:34
bzofixing the cam and gps is probably straightforward19:34
arrrghhhyea, shoot him an email.  he'd love to have some userland help.19:34
arrrghhhhe seems swamped with it in fact :P19:35
arrrghhhhttp://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000288.html19:37
arrrghhhin case anyone is interested.19:37
arrrghhhhyc really did a fantastic job on debugging Sprint's MMS, considering he's on T-Mobile lol19:38
bzolol, didn't know that19:38
arrrghhha little peeved my request into sprint fell on deaf ears19:39
arrrghhhconsidering i know people within the company... and he put me in contact with the people who actually would be responsible for that19:39
arrrghhhoh well19:39
arrrghhhbzo, yea.  i miss hyc, that guy was an animal.19:39
arrrghhhhe randomly pops on the forums19:39
arrrghhhbut he provided a whirlwind of great patches.19:40
arrrghhhfor... a few months there lol.19:40
bzohopefully he gets bored and comes back19:40
raymonddullgot busy with life stuff?19:40
arrrghhhyea19:40
arrrghhhhe was really busy with OpenLDAP19:40
arrrghhhIRL basically19:40
arrrghhhi think he said the improvements he had to make to the backend are done & all his showing it off is almost done too :P19:40
arrrghhhhaven't talked to him in a bit tho.19:40
bzoarrrghhh: have a few minutes to chat about neighborhood stuff?19:42
arrrghhhsure, pm me.19:44
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XirXeswho made the recovery image on Rhodnand20:45
arrrghhhacl20:48
arrrghhhjust blank still?20:48
arrrghhhTBH, the fact that LK detected your phone properly is a huge achievement.20:48
XirXesnow its giving me an android splash screen but nothing after that20:48
arrrghhhi don't think he's done anything else to get it working for GSM lol20:48
arrrghhhorly20:48
arrrghhhandroid splash screen?  did you flash OMGB?20:48
XirXesI flashed the boot.img out of it from fastboot20:49
XirXesthats what that is ok20:49
arrrghhhoh20:49
arrrghhhinteresting20:49
arrrghhhso CWM never actually worked20:49
arrrghhhyou hold power20:50
arrrghhhyou get the double vibde20:50
arrrghhhdo vibe*20:50
arrrghhhdo you see the tux logo?20:50
XirXesno. the boot loader hasn't acknowledged any buttons20:50
arrrghhhthen you should see a faint android logo, followed by the tiny fonted menus of CWM20:50
arrrghhhah20:50
arrrghhhhave you tried pulling the battery?20:50
arrrghhhthis is dumb/odd20:50
XirXesyeah20:50
arrrghhhbut sometimes i have to do that20:50
arrrghhhok20:50
arrrghhhare you booting with it plugged into anything?20:50
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XirXessometimes20:51
arrrghhhi wouldn't.20:53
arrrghhhhad bad luck doing that20:53
arrrghhhprobably just because i went thru so much maddness with the batteries lately20:53
arrrghhhanyhoo20:53
arrrghhhwhen are you holding power?20:53
arrrghhhand do you keep holding it...?20:53
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XirXesI've been holding it before I even see the blue. but since that wasn't working I was using fastboot boot recovery.img20:58
arrrghhhok20:59
arrrghhhtry holding it right when you see miniPoopLoader20:59
arrrghhhlol20:59
arrrghhhsuch clever naming20:59
arrrghhhand continue to hold it until you feel the double vibe20:59
arrrghhhi've never actually tried fastboot boot recovery.img20:59
arrrghhhjust saw some guys on ppcg post that it worked for them lol20:59
arrrghhhhrm20:59
arrrghhhi wonder if abel is out spreading his seed again tonight.  i'll try to get a hold of him, he'll be excited that the detection worked properly.21:00
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XirXesive done it on native devices a few times21:09
XirXesit just isn't detecting buttons21:30
arrrghhhhrm21:31
arrrghhhso does it say any buttons detected when booting?21:31
raymonddullfastboot boot recovery.img works just fine,but power off after,don't try rebooting from there,things get weird if you try it.21:31
arrrghhhin lk/blue screen21:31
raymonddull(on the devices I've tried it on anyway)21:31
XirXesit always says end call key was pressed21:32
arrrghhhit should say POWER BUTTON DETECTED or END CALL21:32
arrrghhhyea21:32
arrrghhhf-ing end call.21:32
arrrghhhthat's the jump into fastboot.21:32
arrrghhhhum.  if i pull my battery21:32
arrrghhhand try again21:32
arrrghhhit "fixes" that problem for me.21:32
arrrghhhACL can't reproduce it.  just works flawlessly for him lol.21:32
raymonddulldon't you just love when that happens? the devices are just different enough to cause issues even though they're exactly the same model21:33
XirXesone other thing. your probably right about the auto boot on usb. because when I unplug the cord the charging led stays on21:33
raymonddullthats an htc thing.21:33
raymonddullmy friend's hero still says its plugged in and done charging when he gets home 9 hours after unplugging it.21:34
raymonddulllight still lit up green21:34
XirXesthis is while its off21:34
raymonddullohh21:34
raymonddullhis is while its on21:34
XirXesthats pretty wierd21:35
arrrghhhwhile it's on?21:35
arrrghhhthat's really weird.21:35
raymonddullyeah21:35
arrrghhhyea mine would stay when its off sometimes.21:35
raymonddullits done that since it came out of the box,as did his last 7 warranty replacements21:35
arrrghhhi think my batteries might've been slaughtered after that ordeal tho.21:36
arrrghhhcrap.21:36
raymonddullit does it at least one day a week21:36
arrrghhhlol21:36
arrrghhh7?  you figure they'd just give him a different phone21:36
arrrghhhw/o an led indicator21:36
arrrghhhheh21:36
raymonddullthats what I thought too21:36
raymonddullits not being replaced because of the led,its because of other stuff.21:36
arrrghhhdamn21:37
raymonddullthe first one died and wouldn't do anything,the second one just bootlooped no matter what I did to it,the third one the trackball clips broke and it fell out,the 4th one the buttons stopped working,and I don't remember what was wrong with the others21:37
raymonddullhe has terrible luck with that phone.21:37
XirXesIve had 1 g2 and it still looks new21:38
raymonddullI'm holding a captivate that looks like it just came out of the box,but it is completely dead,no signs of life whatsoever.21:38
raymonddullnot a single scratch on it,and I've been staring at it for the last 4 hours.21:39
raymonddullim gonna be pissed if samsung sends something back that looks like it went through a wood chipper like they did my fascinate21:39
XirXeseven with that unbrickable stuff xda came up with?21:40
raymonddullI haven't tried that yet because samsung is going to replace it,that requires taking it apart and soldering a wire between 2 resistors in an area about the size of one letter on a quarter.21:41
XirXesah i see21:41
raymonddullI could do it,and probably will when I get it back,but this is a free repair and I'm taking it.21:42
XirXesdo you think that would work on an iPhone 4 since its cpu is similar?21:42
raymonddullI bought it bricked,samsung is fixing it for me,everything is good.21:42
raymonddulland yeah,it technically should.21:42
XirXesi really would enjoy seeing that. someone shove an android boot loader into an iphone21:43
raymonddullthat would be awesome. we already kind of have that working on the iPhone 2g and 3g,there are working gingerbread builds,if you consider no power management or data working21:45
arrrghhhwith one button21:45
arrrghhhlol21:45
raymonddullhttp://idroidproject.org/21:45
arrrghhhraymonddull, anyone still actively developing it?21:45
raymonddulldoesn't look like it,the only thing that has changed in the last 6 months is the wiki layout21:45
arrrghhhouch21:45
raymonddullyeah21:46
arrrghhhhttp://www.idroidproject.org/forum/index.php/topic,2228.0.html21:46
raymonddullhmm,nice21:48
arrrghhhkinda recent21:48
arrrghhha month21:48
raymonddullmakes sense,apple dropped support for these devices for a reason21:48
arrrghhhyea21:48
raymonddullthey're slow as hell in any os21:48
arrrghhhlol21:48
raymonddull412mhz cpu (600mhz in android) and 128mb ram= bad experience overall21:49
raymonddullgoing the other way I wouldn't mind being able to dual boot into iOS on this captivate21:50
arrrghhh128mb of ram21:51
arrrghhhew21:51
arrrghhhhrm21:51
arrrghhhi wonder if stinebd has tried any of the new acoustic either21:51
arrrghhhi'm betting it helps with the whole FM radio debacle21:52
arrrghhhthat only GSM users have...grrrr21:52
raymonddulllol,usually with android cdma is the complications21:52
arrrghhhwell cdma variants have no fm radio21:53
arrrghhhthe gsm variants do21:53
raymonddullahh21:53
arrrghhhwhich ironically the GSM variants don't have 3.5mm jacks21:53
arrrghhhthe CDMA variants do...21:53
arrrghhhstupid21:53
raymonddullinternal antenna then? most android phones use the headphones as antennas21:53
arrrghhhno, it's the same21:54
arrrghhhuses the headphones as antenna21:54
arrrghhhthe blackstone is gsm only21:54
arrrghhhand has a 3.5mm jack21:54
arrrghhhand has the fm radio...21:54
arrrghhhand it has a front facing cam!21:54
raymonddulllol21:54
arrrghhhandandand21:54
arrrghhhi dunno if that'll ever work for them21:54
raymonddullprobably not21:54
arrrghhhevidently the cam code is a crazy hack because we don't have any source.21:54
raymonddullhonestly its not that great21:54
raymonddullI used it twice on my evo in like 8 months21:55
arrrghhhlol21:55
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XirXeswhen do you think cal might be around. it would be fun to help him get this working22:32
XirXesacl22:33
arrrghhhdunno22:34
arrrghhhhe's on/off at random :P22:34
arrrghhhi think he'll be on tonight tho...22:34
XirXesif it wasn't for the boot loader thinking the end button has been pressed i could probably try and boot that rom.22:35
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arrrghhhwell22:38
arrrghhhits strange to me that you can't make it into recovery22:38
XirXesI'm definitely in recovery. when I'm at that splash screen and i run adb devices it says the connected device is in recovery22:40
XirXesrecovery doesn't write to the frame buffer tho. which is odd22:40
arrrghhhhrm22:41
arrrghhhi wonder if you can tell it to flash22:41
arrrghhhlol22:41
arrrghhhyou seemed to get the boot img flashed22:41
XirXesi did that by extracting the zip on my computer and using fast boot to do it22:41
arrrghhhyea22:42
XirXesi think i could get it to flash. ill try22:43
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XirXesha i got recoveries frame buffer on my desktop22:49
XirXesusing ddms from the sdk22:50
XirXeshttp://goo.gl/dpjpg this is all its showing tho22:54
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arrrghhhXirXes, yea if you hit home22:57
arrrghhher22:58
arrrghhhsend?22:58
arrrghhhfawk22:58
arrrghhhi can't remember22:58
arrrghhhif the 4 front buttons don't work... hum22:58
XirXesI got it to show the menu with vol_down and right on the keyboard was down in the menu23:00
arrrghhhcool23:01
arrrghhhstill not on the screen, only thru ddms?23:01
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arrrghhhACL said he'd be workin on it tonight, so hopefully he'll come online.23:01
arrrghhhhe might be busy tho, he's working on the dead battery problem of not being able to charge when the device is off.23:01
XirXesyeah. I have to refresh it to see what Ive changed. that just tells me its not using the correct frame buffer address23:01
arrrghhhlol23:02
arrrghhhmight be different for GSM...23:02
XirXesI remember quite a few memory addresses are different. thats why i needed to dump some shit with haret on my phone to get cam working for gsm23:03
arrrghhhhah23:03
arrrghhhcool23:03
XirXesI'm reflashing the nbh to delete the boot.img i flashed. since its whats filling the framebuffer23:05
arrrghhhheh23:05
XirXesno i guess its not. I still have that android boot screen instead of recoveries framebuffer23:06
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XirXesfor some reason input in recovery is really slow. I have to hold buttons down to get them to register23:24
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arrrghhhhrm23:36
arrrghhhacl said "buttons will need work" lol23:37
arrrghhhit was wonky for me, but i would eventually make it23:37
arrrghhhprobably some moar differences23:37
arrrghhhi think for sure we're going to have to split CDMA and GSM23:37
arrrghhhi know acl hacked the crap out of the RIL to get it to work on CDMA23:37
arrrghhhlol23:37
arrrghhhi still need to find a SIM from a friend to borrow23:38
arrrghhhhe put the worldphone functionality back in the latest build23:38
arrrghhhso you're in recovery23:38
arrrghhhand you can move around23:38
arrrghhhit's just painful?23:38
XirXesyeah i gave up on navigating it and found some documentation on giving recovery commands through adb23:39
arrrghhhlol nice23:40
arrrghhhis that working?23:40
XirXesnot yet23:41
XirXesnow it is23:44
XirXesi told it to flash an update the same way android does with an ota23:45
XirXesapparently recovery checks /cache/recovery/command when it boots23:46
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XirXesnever mind. its not doing anything.23:48
XirXesmy last idea, which im surprised I didnt think of sooner. Could you make a nandroid backup of your omgb device and send me the system.img out of it?23:49
XirXesi could definitely flash that through fastboot23:50
XirXesweirdly it did give me that package installing screen that recovery does in an ota on the device. it just wasnt actually doing anything and ddms was showing the normal recovery background instead23:56

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