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| [acl] | y0 | 01:17 |
| [acl] | just checkin email to see what the world brings | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:18 |
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| [acl] | effin connection.. something is up | 01:39 |
| [acl] | arrrghhh: contacted boost to see if they can activate my old account.. cross fingers :-p | 01:39 |
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| ryannathans | GLEMSOM KERNEL SITE THINGO. Y U ALWAYS DOWN WHEN I WANT TO UPDATE KERNEL. | 03:44 |
| ryannathans | IT WOULD BE UP NOW. | 03:45 |
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| emwe | hi d3tul3. | 07:12 |
| d3tul3 | hey emwe | 07:14 |
| emwe | hope you didn't midn me pushing the stuff out. | 07:14 |
| d3tul3 | not at all, thanks for doing that, sorry you had to do a bit of cleanup in liblights | 07:15 |
| emwe | nah, it was just a little condensation. | 07:15 |
| d3tul3 | emwe, i have the lightsensor working to my liking....a little patch in PowerManagerService and now it does light adjustments on the fly - not just on screen on | 07:16 |
| emwe | was happy i got the navi pad code "fixable" to keep notification state quite easily and it just worked. | 07:16 |
| emwe | ah cool | 07:16 |
| emwe | i need to get back to this during the week. we got a holiday today and off for shopping soon. | 07:16 |
| emwe | you are using htc_ls_microp and report in the dbgfs hook in microp-klt, yap? | 07:17 |
| emwe | any libsensor change? | 07:17 |
| d3tul3 | i am just using one of the read functions from ls_microp, really all that's needed (i think) is the correct address (0x31 vs 0x33) | 07:18 |
| d3tul3 | i changed the resolution in the sensor and the way the values are reported to userland (now they are reported no 9 notches between 0 - 255) | 07:18 |
| d3tul3 | i also looked into writing in the caps/fn hooks for userland, that shouldn't hard, however userland would require patches beyond liblights (framework) | 07:19 |
| emwe | aha. | 07:19 |
| emwe | will have to get this going myself it seems. will just stuff prox away now. if you can get it going... | 07:20 |
| emwe | seems there's some missing init for haret... | 07:20 |
| emwe | or microp gpio reset. dunno. | 07:20 |
| emwe | gtg now. | 07:20 |
| d3tul3 | later take care | 07:21 |
| emwe | bye bye | 07:21 |
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| arrrghhh | detule, yo | 11:37 |
| detule | what's going on arrrghhh | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | nada | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | RE: OMGB. ACL has his own branch/tree/hoosawhatsit | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | it's not going to be officially part of OMGB... | 11:38 |
| detule | just saw his ppc post....gotta go later | 11:44 |
| mgross029 | Hey arrrghhh... How was the concert? | 11:45 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, pretty cool | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | bush was awesome | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | i hear gavin is a douche in real life, but he was pretty cool @ the concert. | 11:51 |
| mgross029 | Cool... | 11:52 |
| mgross029 | Well most of them are... lol... | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | nah, some musicians seem like awesome people | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | like steve winwood | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | or ian anderson | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | from interviews, they seem like awesome people at least :P | 11:52 |
| mgross029 | Oh... I don't disagree with that... There are some pretty great ones out there... That act like normal people... | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | got some work done on the truck too | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | suspension is completely done now | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | and the sliders are on, they look great | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | but the f-ing front bumper is still MIA | 11:54 |
| mgross029 | Cool... Did you raise it any? | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:54 |
| mgross029 | Were did you order the bumper from? | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | i had to get new front springs because of all the added weight of a bumper | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | so i raised the front about 3" | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | the rear already had an added leaf, so i only added about 2" back there. so in total about 3 in the rear as well | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | and i didn't order it.. that's the best part. a buddy of mine is fabricating it from sheets of steel plate. | 11:55 |
| mgross029 | Ahh... That's cool... I had an old S-10 years ago... Ummm... yeah... I had a friend of mine fabricate a push bar in complete Stainless... Even the welds were done in TIG | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | detule, sorry i didn't see he responded. | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | mgross029, nice | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | http://i.imgur.com/Tre4D.jpg | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | http://i.imgur.com/FFuHH.jpg | 11:57 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh... Yeah the even nicer part was he only wanted $20 for it... That was all the material cost him... | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | obviously just the center section | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | damn... | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | i'm paying a little more than that :P | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | but the materials are a lot more than $20... | 11:58 |
| mgross029 | Yeah... I did kick it up to $50 for him because he did such a nice job too... | 11:58 |
| mgross029 | Saw those pics before... No updates ehh... | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | no | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | his plasma cutter is busted | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | so there's literally nothing new to show on the bumper front. | 11:59 |
| mgross029 | Ahh... That sucks... | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | he ordered some new tips for it | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | and had issues with it this weekend | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | i really hope he gets it working this week... | 11:59 |
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| arrrghhh | because if he doesn't at least get the center section finished this week, i'm going to be bumperless for probably another month :/ | 12:00 |
| mgross029 | Ouch... What are the laws out that way about that? | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | i uh | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | don't know to be honest | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | i have headlights, and the license plate is zip-tied to the grille | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | so... i'm just hoping i don't hit anyone :D | 12:01 |
| mgross029 | Well you could always put some 2x4s there in the mean time... lol | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | he was test fitting with poster board | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | and i told him to leave it, it'll save weight :D | 12:02 |
| mgross029 | I've been thinking about getting a small welder myself, but not sure how much use I would get out of it... | 12:02 |
| mgross029 | Yep... That's exactly what my buddy did with mine... | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | eh it's fun | 12:02 |
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| arrrghhh | but it's hard, dirty work | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | grinding sucks balls. that's all i've got to say :P | 12:03 |
| mgross029 | Yeah... Hot more than anything... | 12:03 |
| mgross029 | Well you shouldn't let the weld pool so much... heh | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | nah, i wasn't doing any welding | 12:04 |
| mgross029 | Did you get much testing done on the new acoustic kernel? | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | i was grinding rust and slag off of some leaf packs | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | i ran it all weekend :D | 12:04 |
| mgross029 | Oh... Yeah... That sucks... Did that before too... | 12:05 |
| mgross029 | Well glad you did... I had some trouble with it so I had to go back to original FRX 7.1 without acoustics... | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | what kinda trouble? | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | i had a few phone calls, seemed to work fine. | 12:06 |
| mgross029 | Wife said she kept calling but I wasn't answering... | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:07 |
| mgross029 | Also... Talking on it and then POP... It would reboot... | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | weird... | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | certainly didn't have those issues | 12:07 |
| mgross029 | Yeah... I've been working back to make sure it wasn't something I did... | 12:08 |
| mgross029 | Oh... Also my radio would drop and not come back... Now that was wierd... | 12:08 |
| mgross029 | weird* | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | you didn't change RIL's? | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | just new system image and new kernel? | 12:09 |
| mgross029 | Yep... That was all I changed... | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think emwe changed the RIL in the image | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | i certainly didn't have those issues. i missed a few calls sunday, because i was working on my truck. the phone logged all the calls as missed :P | 12:10 |
| mgross029 | That's why I want to make sure it is nothing else I was messing with... build.prop.. etc... | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | might be | 12:11 |
| mgross029 | I was working on several different builds... | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't muck with any of that | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | from the sounds of it most of that stuff will just get ignored by our IL | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | RIL* | 12:12 |
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| mgross029 | Oh... I did notice in emwe's build.prop it now pulls the libhtcgeneric-ril.so from system/libs where before on regular froyo it was system/libs/froyo/ | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | it should always be /system/lib | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | since... FRX07 | 12:14 |
| mgross029 | Yeah... Like I said... Going back... Overwritting files with originals... | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | okie | 12:16 |
| mgross029 | Oh... When I did go back to FRX7.1 Voice Search/Command works... :p | 12:16 |
| mgross029 | lol | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i know that. | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:17 |
| mgross029 | Just have to deal with scratchy audio... heh... | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's not that big of a deal to me | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | the volume on the new acoustic is driving me a little batty | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | it's too loud to hold to my ear | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | and in speakerphone people complain of serious echo... again probably because it's so f-ing loud lol | 12:18 |
| mgross029 | The speaker is like super loud... lol | 12:18 |
| mgross029 | :p | 12:18 |
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| elesbb | hey arrrghhh . | 15:48 |
| elesbb | hows life goin ? | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | it's goin | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | what's upo? | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | up* | 15:49 |
| elesbb | do you live in france ? lol | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | no | 15:49 |
| elesbb | oh when you do "whois" it comes up france lol . | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | that's how i like it | 15:50 |
| raymonddull | lol | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | probably the server i'm connected to. dunno. | 15:50 |
| elesbb | yeah wish i would come up like that . but i have a quick question , is there any way to force roaming ? | 15:51 |
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| elesbb | i was goofing off in the settings of android , and under wireless and networks -> mobile networks -> cdma options -> system select you can force home only (which works) or automatic , any way you can add the function roaming only just like you could on windows ? | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, this was already asked | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | and answered | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | there's some stupid app | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | but the short story is, Android doesn't handle forcing roaming so well. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | why the hell would you want to force roaming? | 15:53 |
| elesbb | i tried roam control . but i dont think it works i saw the thread . and cause at my moms house i have decent roaming service , but also get some sprint service , and the phone constantly switches back and forth btw roaming and home , which KILLS the battery really quick , and also , with it switching all the time texts wont go through or i wont get them right away . | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | use winmo then | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | Android doesn't do roaming so well. | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. if you had a native Android device, you'd be SOL | 15:57 |
| elesbb | hahah yeah i figured that one . alright thanks . just wasnt sure if there was a way to edit that menu i found . | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | not without frameworks changes | 15:59 |
| elesbb | maybe i'll finally call sprint and get an airrave | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | i would goooogle | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | see what native Android users use | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | that would work too | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | tell 'em you'll cancel because of shitty service | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | they usually comp 'em | 15:59 |
| elesbb | alright thanks arrrghhhh | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | np | 16:00 |
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| raymonddull | arrrghhh, on a native device roam control works just fine | 16:05 |
| raymonddull | I use it on my evo at my dad's house. full 3g on verizon of 0-1bars of sprint | 16:05 |
| raymonddull | it decides to keep sprint | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | well | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | i've never tried the app | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps elesbb's issue is user-error | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | if not, then perhaps our port is missing something. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't be the first time :P | 16:06 |
| raymonddull | I have never tried it on the tp2 which I would assume is the phone he's on,but on my evo it works fine. | 16:06 |
| raymonddull | and btw,the airrave is a joke,that thing drops calls worse than sprint with 0 bars | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | well | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | the airave depends on QoS to work properly thru your ISP | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | if your internet cxn is crap, airave won't help. it'll hurt. | 16:07 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I have a pretty stable connection,~12ms ping,~35mbps down,~20mbps up | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 16:08 |
| raymonddull | the airrave is sitting in a box in the closet because it hurt more than helped | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | that should be more than enough | 16:08 |
| elesbb | hell of a connection raymoddull | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | i think you only need 100ms latency | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | and like 1mbps down... | 16:08 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I love comcast. I'm paying for 22/3 and get that | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | heh. i don't get 20mbps up on comcast. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | i pay for 16/2, and that's pretty much what i get. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | speed tests are BS, unless they are extended. | 16:09 |
| elesbb | and yeah im on the tp2 . and ive set roam control to HTC and tried it and didnt really notice a difference . | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, you gotta troubleshoot | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | and break it down | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | make sure it's actually working | 16:09 |
| elesbb | yeah im gonna do that now , setting data to not connect when roaming and see what happens . | 16:10 |
| raymonddull | a more reliable way of doing it would be to download a verizon prl and just switch to that when in a crappy sprint area | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | that would be a PITA | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | using a sprint prl with forced roam will only give you 1x,a verizon prl will give you 3g | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | since you'd have to apply the PRL in WinMo | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | and its not as bad as it sounds | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | ohh | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | I wasnt even thinking of that | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | you forget | 16:11 |
| elesbb | whats a PITA lol | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | we're insane | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, google | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | I'm used to ##775 000000,update prl | 16:11 |
| raymonddull | elesbb, pain in the ass | 16:11 |
| elesbb | ohhh ahahahahahahah thanks ray | 16:11 |
| mgross029 | elesbb, www.acronymfinder.com :p | 16:12 |
| elesbb | ahahahahah lml mgross | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:13 |
| elesbb | i heard changing PRL on android wasnt that hard though ? i already have 3 verizon PRL's that i switch to in winMo but even verizon only has 1x where i am at now | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, sure if we had native Android devices. | 16:14 |
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| raymonddull | arrrghhh, even on native devices it can only be done in sense | 16:14 |
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| arrrghhh | exactly | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | because the way CDMA does that crap is specific to the carrier | 16:15 |
| elesbb | wait so even if i bought a Samsung Optimus S i couldnt change PRL's ? | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | so you need a build that is supported by the carrier | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | not necessarily sense, but yea... | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, damnit. | 16:15 |
| elesbb | What ?? | 16:15 |
| elesbb | optiums S is running Froyo just as we are ... | 16:15 |
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| arrrghhh | elesbb, DAMNIT | 16:16 |
| mgross029 | Hmmm... Native OS and Looped OS are two different animals... | 16:17 |
| elesbb | IM SORRY ARRRGHHHH ! | 16:17 |
| raymonddull | the optimus has its own bastardized lg crap built in,a standard aosp rom can't do it on there either. | 16:17 |
| raymonddull | < has an optimus v which is the optimus s with the home and menu buttons switched and thats it | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, you're making things way more complicated than they need to be | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | and raymonddull was over-simplifying things | 16:18 |
| elesbb | ohhh ... sorry arrrghhh | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | when he meant "it can only be done in sense" he really meant "it can only be done on carrier ROM's" | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | because the carrier puts crap in to make it work. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | which in his case (Evo) is a sense rom :P | 16:19 |
| elesbb | ahh .. im starting to not like android lol | 16:19 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 16:19 |
| raymonddull | elesbb, its more of a pita on other oses | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | eh it's not Android in this case that's the problem | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | it's the carrier and CDMA technology. | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | or lack thereof... | 16:20 |
| raymonddull | exactly | 16:20 |
| elesbb | with my WinMo TP2 i went somewhere where sprint had ZERO coverage so i changed to verizon PRL and got FULL 3G service . | 16:20 |
| raymonddull | yeah,thats what i do with my evo at my dad's | 16:21 |
| elesbb | this may be a dumb question but if you root a device does that no longer make it a carrier ROM ? | 16:22 |
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| arrrghhh | elesbb, nope | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | just gives you unadultered access to the OS | 16:23 |
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| arrrghhh | my GF is running the carrier ROM on her Optimus S, and it's rooted | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | (she didn't like CM7...) | 16:23 |
| elesbb | how does she like Optimus S ? | 16:23 |
| elesbb | there like 50 bucks on ebay | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | she loves it | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | but she's never had a smartphone before | 16:24 |
| raymonddull | its a decent phone,but you'd have an issue if you have big hands | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | i actually like it too | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | good little performer | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | screen res is depressing compared to the RHOD | 16:24 |
| raymonddull | its performance wise about the same as my evo when its overclocked to 844mhz which mine is,its running cm7 and it flies | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm sure that's why it performs so well on such low specs... | 16:24 |
| elesbb | oh really ? i didnt think it looked that bad in the sprint store | 16:25 |
| raymonddull | but yeah,screen res sucks,and the touchscreen is the same from the g1,axis flip and all | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, i wish i knew why cm7 ran like shit on her phone | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | it really was pretty bad compared to the stock ROM from Sprint. | 16:25 |
| raymonddull | its progressed a lot since you tried it,the old alphas ran like shit on mine too | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | and she whined, so i put her back on the stock ROM. haven't had any other complaints of slowness. | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | this wasn't an alpha... | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | it was only like a month ago when i tried it. has it progressed a lot since then? | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | not sure she'll let me touch her phone again tho lol | 16:26 |
| raymonddull | hmm,yeah | 16:26 |
| raymonddull | 1 mine I'll find you a link to a recent build | 16:26 |
| raymonddull | the guy that was maintaining it "aosp" <his username which makes it even more confusing, disappeared and someone else stepped up,improved a lot of things,and everything is completely opensourced instead of aosp's I'll release the source whenever I feel like it | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | the build i found was on some odd androidcentral site | 16:28 |
| raymonddull | http://www.mediafire.com/?5rk5r7krzhkspm4 | 16:28 |
| raymonddull | that was built on Sept 25th,we don't exactly get nightlies,but its updated whenever anything major changes. | 16:29 |
| raymonddull | the builds are here: https://github.com/inferiorhumanorgans/android_device_lge_thunderc/wiki/Binary | 16:29 |
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| arrrghhh | raymonddull, http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-optimus-s-rooting-roms-hacks/106518-drews-cm7-builds-stable-08-09-2011-experimental-08-08-2011-a.html | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | that was the build i was using. | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | the "stable" build | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | seems it hasn't been updated since i used it... wth. | 16:32 |
| raymonddull | lol | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | ah. dev put the project on indefinite hold evidently. | 16:32 |
| elesbb | arrrghhh, raymonddull, so i used the android setting to set it to HOME only and then tried using ROam control to force roaming and it didnt work .. | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, i've never used this app | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | so i won't be able to help you | 16:33 |
| elesbb | im not exactly looking for help , just kinda putting it out there . im gonna look into changing the menu in Android . | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | masochist. | 16:34 |
| raymonddull | sounds like a plan | 16:34 |
| elesbb | eh i like a challenge xP | 16:34 |
| elesbb | and whats masochist ? lol | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | good lord | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull might be able to help you. | 16:35 |
| elesbb | ha yeah really . shut up stop laughing at me ! | 16:35 |
| elesbb | lol | 16:35 |
| raymonddull | a person who is gratified by pain, degradation, etc., that is self-imposed or imposed by others. | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | but i wouldn't consider changing the menu in Android | 16:35 |
| elesbb | thanks raymonddull ! | 16:35 |
| raymonddull | no prob | 16:35 |
| elesbb | why not arrrghhh ? | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, well first that would require frameworks changes | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | which you can make yourself all day long, sure | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | but do you want to maintain your own system image? | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | and push updates anytime stuff comes thru the pipeline...? | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | hence, masochism. | 16:37 |
| elesbb | ha | 16:37 |
| elesbb | didnt think of all that | 16:38 |
| raymonddull | I guess he could submit it to aosp and have it become part of the main android repo which would eventually make it down into custom roms | 16:38 |
| raymonddull | elesbb, if you would be interested in doing that, here is where you should start: http://source.android.com/source/index.html | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that'll happen. | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, you're evil lol | 16:39 |
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| raymonddull | lol,of course the carriers would be pissed,but they don't have to put it in carrier roms | 16:39 |
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| elesbb | arrrghhh, thanks and no raymonddull is nice he doesnt laugh at me xP | 16:40 |
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| arrrghhh | oh he's laughing | 16:40 |
| elesbb | hahaahhaha i know so am i ! | 16:40 |
| elesbb | it doesnt hurt to laugh at yourself once in a while . and thanks for the link ! | 16:40 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I am definitely laughing,but I was semi serious about submitting it to aosp,it would be a useful contribution. | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, yes | 16:41 |
| raymonddull | whether the people reviewing stuff think the same is a different story | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | but so did all the worldphone stuff hyc submitted to Google | 16:41 |
| raymonddull | but I think it would be useful | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | which seemingly fell on deaf ears. | 16:41 |
| raymonddull | yeah,that happens. | 16:41 |
| raymonddull | unfortunately | 16:41 |
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| raymonddull | is the epic seriously still this broken for aosp roms? | 16:42 |
| elesbb | i dont see how forcing roaming isnt useful , i mean especially in situations such as mine . | 16:42 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, Later dude... Have fun with all of this... heh... | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 16:42 |
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| raymonddull | I just found the main cm7 port and the list of working stuff says: | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | What works: | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | BT | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | Reliable RIL | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | Data | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | MMS | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | Wifi | 16:42 |
| raymonddull | Moar things | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, you're literally the first person who has asked | 16:43 |
| raymonddull | and yeah elesbb,it is useful,they just like to please the carriers. | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | in the 2+ years this port has been going. | 16:43 |
| elesbb | ha screw the carriers , | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | so while it might be useful to some, it's not exactly something that is desirable by most. | 16:43 |
| raymonddull | arrrghhh, I thought about it,but never asked | 16:43 |
| raymonddull | mainly because I was using tmobile on a sprint tp2 | 16:43 |
| raymonddull | if I was actually using sprint I would've asked | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | 2 people | 16:44 |
| elesbb | its great , the sprint rep was showing me which phones would be best for me , cause he knows im a geek , and he didnt really care what i did , thats why i love my sprint store . | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, he sold you the TP2? what a dick. | 16:44 |
| raymonddull | is your sprint store running cm7 on most of the phones in the store? | 16:44 |
| raymonddull | lmfao | 16:44 |
| elesbb | actually that was my desicion xP | 16:44 |
| raymonddull | seriously? | 16:44 |
| elesbb | yes | 16:44 |
| raymonddull | wait,when was this decision? | 16:44 |
| elesbb | i always loved WinMo | 16:44 |
| raymonddull | and you chose the tp2? | 16:45 |
| * raymonddull slowly backs away | 16:45 | |
| elesbb | he was recommending me , for my upgrade , the epic or evo shift . saying the evo shift was harder to root . | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:45 |
| elesbb | haha | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, your sprint rep is dumb, just like all other sprint reps i've ever talked to. | 16:45 |
| raymonddull | shift is easy to root and is leaps and bounds faster then the og evo,and it makes the tp2 look like a kids toy | 16:45 |
| elesbb | that i agree on | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really like the evo shift | 16:46 |
| elesbb | evo shift is amazing | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | and i think the tp2 makes the shift look like a kids toy (on the outside) | 16:46 |
| elesbb | only thing i hate is the sliding mechanism , or lack of one | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | and the specs? why did they downgrade it? | 16:46 |
| elesbb | arrrghhh, agreed | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | still waiting. i've got plenty of time. | 16:46 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I agree,physically the tp2 looks better | 16:47 |
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| elesbb | they make the HD2 with a 1ghz processor , then make the TP2 with a 500mhz processor ? wtf | 16:47 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 16:47 |
| raymonddull | I love the hd2 | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:47 |
| raymonddull | it is still my favorite phone,I really want it back | 16:48 |
| raymonddull | I shouldn't have sold it | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | if the TP2 had the specs of the HD2... damnit jim. | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | would be parfait. | 16:48 |
| elesbb | i'll take the HD2 if it worked on sprint ;P | 16:48 |
| raymonddull | og evo | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much the same device elesbb ^^ | 16:48 |
| raymonddull | same cpu,ram,lcd | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | just can't run 15,000 operating systems. | 16:48 |
| elesbb | ha i want the 15.000 os's | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | get the HD2 | 16:49 |
| raymonddull | yeah,the hd2 that I know of can run android,maemo,ubuntu,debian,wp7,winmo6.5 | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | and cry that it won't work on Sprint lol | 16:49 |
| raymonddull | probably more | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | i love how you put the OS it was designed for @ the end | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 16:49 |
| elesbb | hahaha shut up arrrghhh | 16:49 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 16:49 |
| raymonddull | the only time I had it running wm6.5 was when I needed my battery to last 2+ days | 16:50 |
| elesbb | i'll tear it apart and put in a CDMA antenna ! | 16:50 |
| raymonddull | it was running 2.1 as my daily rom exactly a year ago | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | winmo is good for that | 16:50 |
| elesbb | which phones is your guys main primary everyday use phoen ? | 16:50 |
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| arrrghhh | well i think you know my answer. | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull changes phones with his underwear | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | ready for your opinion of me to drop? | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | iPhone 2g | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | thats my daily use phone | 16:51 |
| elesbb | wow | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | ohgod you are using that on Android right? | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | nah | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | seriously? | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | its literally just my phone though,no data plan | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | you're using iOS? | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | i use my evo for everything but calling | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | what's the point | 16:51 |
| elesbb | sorry raymonddull but eff apple | 16:51 |
| raymonddull | my mom is paying the tmobile bill for that phone | 16:51 |
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| arrrghhh | raymonddull, seriously. wtf. is. the. point. | 16:52 |
| raymonddull | and android lasts like 45 min on a full charge,they can't even turn the screen off | 16:52 |
| raymonddull | its stuck on. | 16:52 |
| raymonddull | there is NO power management whatsoever | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like our port a year ago or so | 16:52 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 16:52 |
| elesbb | thats great | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | this time last year we were working on sound and battery management | 16:52 |
| raymonddull | and apple stock downclocked it to 412mhz instead of the cpu's native 600mhz,android unlocked that and locks it at full. it runs hot at 412mhz in iOS,android stresses it more at 600mhz | 16:53 |
| raymonddull | its a fireball | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | with the metal case, i'm sure it is literally a fireball. | 16:54 |
| raymonddull | yeah,I usually hold a pentium 4 heatsink to the back of it when I'm playing with android | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | LMFAO | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | epic. | 16:54 |
| raymonddull | and its 128mb ram cripples it in anything | 16:55 |
| elesbb | ha speaking of processor speeds , how come android can overclock only to 710.4 but winmo i can go to 748 ? | 16:55 |
| raymonddull | wow,I ran mine at 768mhz in both | 16:55 |
| raymonddull | same as my g1 | 16:55 |
| raymonddull | my phones run hot,and I'm used to that | 16:56 |
| elesbb | yeah it freezes in android if i go anywhere over 710 | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | elesbb, you can go to whatever the phone can handle in Android | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | if 710 is the max, then that's the max. i've never OC'd winmo to compare. | 16:56 |
| elesbb | i know that arrrghhh , just found it funny how andriod couldnt oc as high as winmo | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | you do realize this is a port right? as in, it's far from perfect? | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 16:56 |
| elesbb | yessss | 16:56 |
| elesbb | i do | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | let's just say there's still a couple of bugs | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | that one is minor. be happy you can OC :P | 16:57 |
| elesbb | ha i am VERY happy arrrghhh ! | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | coming from a WinMo phanboi, that might mean something | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:57 |
| elesbb | ha it does :) | 16:58 |
| elesbb | and be jealous of my WinMo phanboi xP | 16:58 |
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| arrrghhh | meh i used to love winmo | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | before Android existed... | 16:59 |
| elesbb | i havent a problem with it . | 16:59 |
| raymonddull | I did too | 16:59 |
| raymonddull | I loved my huge brick known as an sch-i730 | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | it has amazing potential. you can modify so many things. | 17:00 |
| elesbb | exactly why i love it | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | but microsoft didn't innovate | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | they sat on their laurels | 17:00 |
| elesbb | i am working on the tmail.exe right now to have it close after you press send key | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | google and apple ate them alive | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | sounds boring | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:00 |
| elesbb | ahahahah its actually fun ! :D | 17:04 |
| elesbb | but that just might be the geek in me . however dinner is readdy ... yayyyyyyyy FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD | 17:05 |
| * raymonddull is hungry | 17:05 | |
| raymonddull | but I'm too lazy to get up and make something. | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:06 |
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| stinebd | no longer working weekends (technically) woo | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | orly? | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | and you were saying workload was going to increase :P | 17:48 |
| stinebd | well really it's just a shift in regular days | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 17:49 |
| stinebd | i had thursday and friday off (usually and officially) | 17:49 |
| stinebd | all it means is i don't have to go in every saturday and sunday now | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 17:50 |
| stinebd | but i do have to go in every thursday and friday | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather have weekends off | 17:50 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:50 |
| stinebd | it was a real pain in the ass working weekends | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | weekdays off is nice at times, when you want to get something done with businesses... but overall shitty. | 17:50 |
| stinebd | especially for that wedding i had to go to | 17:50 |
| stinebd | driving over there saturday morning, driving back saturday night and working sunday | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | suck. | 17:51 |
| stinebd | and they wanted me to work half a day saturday until i explained to them that it's a four hour drive | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | do you not get paid time off...? | 17:52 |
| stinebd | no | 17:52 |
| stinebd | well not before, maybe i will now | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | damn guy. i'm sure you could find something better. | 17:52 |
| stinebd | around here? | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | why do you love PA so much...? :P | 17:52 |
| stinebd | because i can't afford to move | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea... most jobs won't pay to move you. unless they REALLY want you. | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | i figured you would have had several offers from el goog | 17:53 |
| raymonddull | or you're military | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:53 |
| stinebd | el goog is in california | 17:53 |
| raymonddull | wrong coast | 17:53 |
| stinebd | well for the android crap anyway | 17:53 |
| stinebd | they do have a strong nyc presence but mostly datacenter stuff | 17:53 |
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| stinebd | and maybe janitorial which i could do | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, they'd still move you if they want you. | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | i had a job opportunity in minnesota. and ND. told them to eat it. | 17:54 |
| raymonddull | and I'm sure you'd be making more at google than wherever you are now | 17:54 |
| stinebd | eat what? | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | i guess the job offer, never thought about it. | 17:55 |
| stinebd | that's what makes me such a valuable employee. i ask those questions. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | i see... | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | maybe google was shooting too high. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:56 |
| stinebd | frankly i'd hesitate to work for them at the moment | 17:56 |
| stinebd | it's a little too antitrusty | 17:56 |
| stinebd | maybe after the lawsuits blow over | 17:56 |
| raymonddull | nah,they're google,they won't go under | 17:57 |
| stinebd | i don't mean that | 17:57 |
| stinebd | the company itself will be fine | 17:57 |
| stinebd | but i could see them having to split off some divisions | 17:57 |
| stinebd | particularly android-related ones | 17:57 |
| stinebd | since that's a community project in the first place | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | it wouldn't surprise me. all the looming litigation is concerning. | 17:59 |
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| raymonddull | it is,I just get bored with phones easily. | 20:25 |
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| Vas | pre animation boot | 20:43 |
| Vas | and just keeps going over the same thing | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | evo is sweet, but only because of the kickstand. | 20:44 |
| stinebd | it's the only phone that can be used as both an easel and a coffee table | 20:44 |
| Vas | guess i'll try deleting data.img | 20:44 |
| raymonddull | lol | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lmao | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | now my TP2 has new meaning | 20:45 |
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| arrrghhh | that's right pratchett | 21:13 |
| Vas | ? | 21:13 |
| raymonddull | ? | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | netsplit | 21:14 |
| Vas | hey arrrghhh I am trying to use the terminal to copy the wifi-nvram.txt but it cannot locate it | 21:15 |
| Vas | i placed it in the root of the sd card | 21:15 |
| Vas | any clue on what i'm doing wrong? | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | you've su'd...? | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | so you are at an elevated prompt? | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | # not $ | 21:16 |
| Vas | yes | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | ok good | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | now cd /sdcard | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | and ls | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | make sure wifi-nvram.txt is thar. | 21:18 |
| Vas | ok | 21:18 |
| Vas | ok | 21:19 |
| Vas | i see where i messed up lol | 21:19 |
| Vas | thanks for that | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | good | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | np | 21:19 |
| Vas | now i think i want to install some sort of linux dist | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | i do love mah linux | 21:19 |
| * raymonddull is running ubuntu | 21:20 | |
| arrrghhh | and it has helped immensely understanding how Android works. | 21:20 |
| raymonddull | I love mah compiz | 21:20 |
| Vas | question | 21:20 |
| raymonddull | most of my android knowledge (command line stuff anyway) came from working on my tivo | 21:20 |
| raymonddull | Vas: answer | 21:20 |
| Vas | if i cp /sdcard/random.txt /data/wifi-nvram.txt | 21:21 |
| Vas | will this rename the copied file? | 21:21 |
| raymonddull | yes | 21:21 |
| Vas | cool | 21:21 |
| Vas | thanks | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | indeedy | 21:21 |
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| Vas | it was the txt file | 21:25 |
| Vas | wifi works now | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | if only that bug could be fixed. very odd. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | should be fun when we go full NAND lol | 21:26 |
| Vas | thanks for your help guys | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | np | 21:26 |
| rpierce99 | what is supposed to make wifi-nvram.txt? | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | initial ramdisk IIRC | 21:27 |
| rpierce99 | hm, that would be odd | 21:27 |
| rpierce99 | i'd think init | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | maybe | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | one of the twol | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | it's reading poop from the bootloader tho... | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 21:27 |
| d3tul3 | g'd evening | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | what's up d3tul3 | 21:28 |
| d3tul3 | just wrapped up with work, cathing up with everything else | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | cathetering up | 21:29 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, not even init.froyo.rc, just /init | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, fix it | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | F22 wrote quite a bit on it | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | i can't remember the "why", but there was some technical reason for it happening. | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | probably just not reading the bootloader properly | 21:30 |
| rpierce99 | do you know what's in it when these are broken | 21:32 |
| rpierce99 | does the file not exist, is it empty, etc? | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | the file exists | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | but the MAC is empty... | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | if you go back thru that thread, F22 has a pretty good explanation IIRC | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | but i haven't been recalling anything correctly today, so i might just be lying to you. | 21:33 |
| rpierce99 | hm, so this is the part of init where "CDMA Rhodium detected" is printed | 21:33 |
| rpierce99 | depending on the offset where the wifi stuff is found | 21:33 |
| rpierce99 | i bet these people are running non-standard roms, i'm not much of a ROM guy but they overwrite MTD right? | 21:34 |
| raymonddull | I think the hd2 had issues like this,thats why they ended up with all hd2s running android showing up with the same mac | 21:35 |
| raymonddull | afaik thats what they stuck with | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | they fuckin hardcoded the MAC? | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | what an elegant solution... LOL | 21:36 |
| raymonddull | yeah | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | i guess most end users wouldn't notice | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | and they wouldn't have to deal with this poop | 21:37 |
| rpierce99 | i'd prefer it to having to explain the wifi-nvram crap to a bunch of people | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | of some working and other snot | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, indeed | 21:37 |
| rpierce99 | yeah it's only people with 2 | 21:37 |
| raymonddull | yeah,me and my stepdad ended up running into issues with it,both of us had an hd2,I ended up just setting up a second router for my phone | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | i think someone considered it | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | and it got shot down | 21:38 |
| rpierce99 | it's possible that we can fix this by expanding the search range, but someone would have to analyze a dump of mtd0 to know for sure | 21:38 |
| rpierce99 | raymonddull: you could have just changed the hardcoded address :P | 21:38 |
| raymonddull | or that | 21:39 |
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| raymonddull | but I was lazy and had a pile of wrt54g routers laying around | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | /jealous | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | best router evar | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | unless it's a high v | 21:39 |
| raymonddull | 5.2 | 21:39 |
| rpierce99 | i think they started to suck at like v6 or v8 | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | i bought one | 21:39 |
| raymonddull | its a crippled model | 21:39 |
| raymonddull | all of them | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | for $20 | 21:39 |
| raymonddull | they're terrible | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | it's great as a second router | 21:40 |
| rpierce99 | the old ones were good, you could dd-wrt them | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | use it as a repeater | 21:40 |
| Vas | i love dd-wrt | 21:40 |
| raymonddull | my main router is a belkin share max N300,its 64mb ram,8mb rom,usb hard drive connected for dlna streaming video to my tv and torrent downloads. | 21:40 |
| raymonddull | I can open the web interface,give it a movie torrent,hit start,turn off my computer and in a few minutes I can watch it from my tv remote | 21:40 |
| raymonddull | and yes,its running dd-wrt | 21:40 |
| Vas | thats quite a setup | 21:40 |
| rpierce99 | hm, wonder if my router can do dlna, i'd love to not have to have my desktop on so much | 21:41 |
| raymonddull | dd-wrt kong mod dlna version,then I installed transmission | 21:41 |
| raymonddull | what model router do you have? | 21:41 |
| stinebd | thanks for killing hollywood | 21:41 |
| stinebd | the starving actors are really appreciative | 21:41 |
| raymonddull | sorry they can't afford another pool filled with $100 bills | 21:42 |
| stinebd | it's because of you they had to downgrade from $1000 bills | 21:42 |
| raymonddull | well,that sucks for them | 21:42 |
| raymonddull | I hope they get papercuts from each one | 21:43 |
| stinebd | next you'll do something crazy like take away bank executives' private jets that store and transport their smaller private jets | 21:43 |
| rpierce99 | hm, doesn't look like it, dlink dir-655 | 21:43 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: all you need to do now is before/during helping people with wifi-nvram, find out what ROM they are on | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, that sounds difficult | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | we should just hardcode it and be lazy like LEO | 21:45 |
| rpierce99 | if we can narrow it down to 1/2 bad ROMs we can maybe fix it | 21:45 |
| rpierce99 | the lazy route doesn't sound like something stinebd would want to do | 21:45 |
| rpierce99 | i'm guessing this code was written into init for a reason :) | 21:45 |
| stinebd | what? | 21:45 |
| stinebd | lazy is what i'm best at | 21:45 |
| raymonddull | lol | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, the stupid wifi problem | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | where some phones don't work | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | because the MAC isn't passed thru correctly/at all | 21:46 |
| raymonddull | and no,that router isn't supported by any custom os,I've never even heard of that cpu manufacturer: ubicom | 21:46 |
| stinebd | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/data/wifi-calibration | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | so the users have to manually put in their MAC into the wifi-nvram.txt file. | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yes. | 21:46 |
| rpierce99 | wifi-nvram.txt | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's pretty much what we're suggesting | 21:46 |
| stinebd | don't be stupid about it though | 21:47 |
| rpierce99 | don't we need colons in it? | 21:47 |
| stinebd | at least get the vendor half right | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, that's crazy | 21:47 |
| raymonddull | set the vendor correctly and do random for the last few digits | 21:47 |
| rpierce99 | last digit is plenty, maybe last octet | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 21:47 |
| stinebd | octet? this ain't chmod son | 21:47 |
| raymonddull | lol | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | just something so wifi at least works | 21:48 |
| rpierce99 | whatever, the last 2 digits | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:48 |
| rpierce99 | octet schmocktet | 21:48 |
| stinebd | no comment about the kid calling you son? | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | eh i think he's used to younger people being smarter than him | 21:49 |
| * arrrghhh runs | 21:49 | |
| rpierce99 | pretty much everyone | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | detule, you thar? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | or d3tul3 whatever | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | oliver overload | 21:51 |
| stinebd | he's oliver? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | yo momma's oliver | 21:51 |
| stinebd | i don't think she is | 21:51 |
| d3tul3 | arrrghhh, what's up | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | ohshit | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you were the one posting about the phone always returning to fastboot | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | but i can't read. | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | nvm... was going to try and help you with it :P | 21:53 |
| stinebd | hey | 21:59 |
| rpierce99 | haha there's a ton of stuff in a good wifi-nvram.txt | 21:59 |
| stinebd | bitbucket has git now | 21:59 |
| raymonddull | is this something I should be able to pull from a native device for you guys? | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | raymonddull, nah | 22:00 |
| rpierce99 | no, i have it on mine | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | we have a functional wifi-nvram.txt no problem | 22:00 |
| raymonddull | ok | 22:00 |
| raymonddull | I have an evo and an optimus I can pull stuff from if you need it. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | it's just certain devices don't seem to get the MAC of the phone pulled properly | 22:00 |
| raymonddull | and other phones randomly floating in and out of here | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | my gf has an optimus as well :P | 22:00 |
| rpierce99 | i wonder if the problem is what we are grepping for | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | the LEO guys seemed to have the same issue | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | so they just hardcoded it. meh. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | seems dumb. why wouldn't you randomize some of it? | 22:01 |
| rpierce99 | yeah if it was just the mac addr i'd be fine with that | 22:01 |
| rpierce99 | but i don't think we can hardcode the rest of this | 22:01 |
| rpierce99 | unless we start storing multiple nvrams like we do key layouts | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't f22 just distribute a generic one? | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | and has users fill in the MAC? | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | and that works just fine...? | 22:02 |
| rpierce99 | dunno, i thought people were just throwing macaddr=<mac> into the text file | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | exactly | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | so there's nothing else that needs to change... | 22:03 |
| rpierce99 | no, i mean i thought the file they use only contains that | 22:03 |
| rpierce99 | like there's no template | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | no | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | but i've never done it | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | look at F22's post | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | neither have i | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | is that what you direct people do | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | s/do/to/ | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9187263&postcount=80 | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | boom | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | that's a good FAQ right thar | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | it's basically just a bookmark of links on how to fix shit :P | 22:04 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, I guess this logic is only for BCM anyways | 22:05 |
| rpierce99 | so the file is probably compatible | 22:05 |
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| rpierce99 | so take that file, throw some easily sed-able chars over the last 2 of the mac address, then sed copy it to /data | 22:06 |
| stinebd | oh man bitbucket is looking nice | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | did you call me sed-able | 22:07 |
| stinebd | custom domains, post-commit hooks | 22:07 |
| stinebd | no space limits | 22:07 |
| stinebd | it maybe goes down less than gitorious | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | you hope | 22:08 |
| stinebd | definitely less than a kardashian sister | 22:08 |
| stinebd | ba-zing | 22:08 |
| rpierce99 | bazinga, you mean | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | bunga-bunga? | 22:09 |
| d3tul3 | i wonder if this omgb build is using pppd in the first place | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | d3tul3, acl said something about that | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | something about pppd | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | and how it is registered... | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | let me see if i can make sense of what's in my head by finding it in the logs lol | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | "well if someone has ideas how to start the damn pppd without whitelisting.. im all ears.. maybe set prop then trigger something to start the service for us ?" | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | i guess whitelisting is a no-no on native devices? | 22:14 |
| raymonddull | I have no idea | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | acl's really trying to make flashing as close to native as possible | 22:14 |
| * raymonddull tries to remember some of the people that did a bunch of the ppp work on leo | 22:14 | |
| arrrghhh | so we can "easily" take other builds and make them work with our junk. | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | ah, he's just trying to minimize/eliminate userland changes basically. | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | "you know the trickiest thing you will face when porting to cm7 or other builds is the ril/pppd setup we have in xdandroid" | 22:15 |
| d3tul3 | i am just looking at the way our ril sets up a data call and what their ril does (if indeed i am looking at the right place)...needless to say story of two worlds | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:15 |
| d3tul3 | i think your phone.apk is also crashing because of the ril | 22:17 |
| d3tul3 | (not saying anything groundbreaking there) | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i wasn't going to point out the obvious, but yea :P | 22:18 |
| d3tul3 | but your ril daemon crashed right around the time you made a phone call 10-01 16:33:04.310 W/RILC ( 81): EOS. Closing command socket. | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if the problems are more than just pppd.... | 22:21 |
| d3tul3 | so er, didn't our old ril just start the ppp daemon on its own? would this work without needing to whitelist anything? | 22:23 |
| d3tul3 | as a temporary stop gap | 22:23 |
| stinebd | doing that you'd need to suid pppd | 22:24 |
| Vas | hey arrrghhh you should also include a file manager/explorer | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | Vas, yea... | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if i can get away forcing it on people | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm probably going to include astro in the AndroidApps\Other folder | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | and ConnectBot :P | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | and then probably be done with stashing shite in thar | 22:25 |
| stinebd | pretty sure i got away with forcing end=home on people, so you can get away with that | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:25 |
| Vas | heh that was you? :P | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you had some hatred to it | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | it being throwing random apk's into /system/app... | 22:26 |
| stinebd | yeah | 22:26 |
| stinebd | particularly ones on market | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | it turns out i didn't | 22:26 |
| raymonddull | I kinda like the end=home | 22:26 |
| stinebd | clearly the solution is to write an xdandroid file manager | 22:26 |
| raymonddull | CM has some deal that they use OI file manager | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | OI! | 22:27 |
| arrrghhh | Toshiba doesn't want to sell us their 5tb server settop box thingy.... dicks. | 22:31 |
| raymonddull | lol | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | they better sell us their crazy expensive 4k glasses-free 3dtv's tho. | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | damn, i need to eat something. | 22:35 |
| stinebd | you should tell you to eat it | 22:35 |
| stinebd | whatever it may be | 22:36 |
| stinebd | harharhar topical injoke referencing conversation from before | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | fail. | 22:37 |
| stinebd | don't act like you're not used to it | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea... definitely used to it | 22:39 |
| d3tul3 | stinebd, this may be a silly question but cant suid-ing pppd be done post install with some sort of provisioning script | 22:41 |
| stinebd | d3tul3: i don't see why you couldn't | 22:47 |
| d3tul3 | alright arrrghhh you heard the man, copy pppd to system/bin or wherever the old ril tries to execute it from, suid, mount bind the old ril and profit :P | 22:48 |
| stinebd | mount bind it all! | 22:49 |
| Vas | :/ | 23:05 |
| Vas | there a reason i am getting a ignored duplicate definition error during boot | 23:06 |
| Vas | well multiple errors | 23:06 |
| Vas | i powered it off from the menu and booted into windows and ran haret | 23:07 |
| Vas | now seems to be stuck in a loop | 23:07 |
| Vas | anyone familiar with this? | 23:17 |
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